I wonder if the courts will also start taking a dim view of trans activists using them to enact petty vendettas against people who don’t share their worldview too ?
"petty vendettas against people who don’t share their worldview"
I look forward to your impartial article on the issue....I’m sure your completely impartial piece will reflect that and not your pro trans sentiment.
That's a fair point. Impartiality can be aspired to but it is difficult to remove the self from the article, whatever the article subject and whoever the self.
However I have sought (and am continuing) to do achieve some kind of objectivity by adopting NPOV, providing references, removing the jokes, and seeking comment from discussants, two from the pro-trans side, two from the gender-critical side. For the discussants I sought GC discussant testimony to the point where I nagged DavidL more than once to provide it and - following his opt-out - I will seek another (probably @fitalass) to fill the gap. If that does not reassure you you can ask DavidL, who has read it.
I don't know if there will be pre-readers on this one. It's been months now and I have time limits: James Baldwin IIRC could write beautiful prose overnight ready for publication but I am thumb-fisted and write slowly. But if there are you will be invited and can raise concerns like every other pre-reader. When it is published you can point out any errors/biases you see and discuss them in the comments.
Which ignores my point
There is a world of difference between challenging statutory bodies over this issue, such as in the case you cited, and indivuduals using the law to target individuals they don’t like or don’t agree with.
Was it really reasonable for then Saudi Blood Money leeches at Newcastle to ban a gender critical feminist for her online social media comments. None of which were unlawful
She took on Northumberland Police and the soccer club and won, she’d done nothing wrong. Just held an opinion some don’t like.
In news of a very good Reform signing, this is a very interesting, sometimes sparky interview of Rear Admiral Dr David Parry with David Starkey (on somewhat tetchy form).
Calmly devastating on the current state of our military, but with sensible solutions. Let's hope Reform listens to him (they have him running as one of the cancelled Mayors just now - he would be a far better defence spokesman), and he is eventually made Defence Sec.
You think Reform signing up a racist and misogynist is good?
Care to explain?
Really? You need me to explain? He was discussed on here just a few days ago regarding his views and his posts to the internet, and interviews, etc. I mean a quick search on the internet and you can get a bucket full of it.
I tend to think if you're prepared to make bold accusations you should be able to stand them up briefly and cogently. I'm not sure why I would be expected to scour the internet for evidence.
No scouring necessary. I don't need to do the research for you. If I said Stalin or Hitler weren't very nice people would you require me to provide evidence ?
Although you might need to read all the subsequent posts from me and others to find the story developed and you may have got the name wrong causing all sorts of confusion (helped by my incompetence).
You're not being asked to do research 'for me', you've made a claim and I asked you to back it up. You've failed to provide a shred of evidence, so I shall file your 'viewpoint' where I feel it belongs.
In news of a very good Reform signing, this is a very interesting, sometimes sparky interview of Rear Admiral Dr David Parry with David Starkey (on somewhat tetchy form).
Calmly devastating on the current state of our military, but with sensible solutions. Let's hope Reform listens to him (they have him running as one of the cancelled Mayors just now - he would be a far better defence spokesman), and he is eventually made Defence Sec.
You think Reform signing up a racist and misogynist is good?
Care to explain?
Really? You need me to explain? He was discussed on here just a few days ago regarding his views and his posts to the internet, and interviews, etc. I mean a quick search on the internet and you can get a bucket full of it.
I tend to think if you're prepared to make bold accusations you should be able to stand them up briefly and cogently. I'm not sure why I would be expected to scour the internet for evidence.
Dunno, one might tend t think anyone boldly proposing someone as a defense spokesman and potential Defense* Sec would have done some minimal research on that person.
*Spelled that way for annoyance.
I provided a long-form interview including real examples of successful projects within the MOD to back up my claim that this man would make a good Defence Secretary. So far, neither KJH or yourself has provided anything that would indicate that his claims are anything other than ignorant weak-minded bilge.
Instead of keep posting why don't you read the thread? You might even find a couple of apologies from me. Although it looks like from what others have posted they probably weren't necessary and certainly I am not feeling apologetic now, bearing in mind you can't even be bothered to do so.
In news of a very good Reform signing, this is a very interesting, sometimes sparky interview of Rear Admiral Dr David Parry with David Starkey (on somewhat tetchy form).
Calmly devastating on the current state of our military, but with sensible solutions. Let's hope Reform listens to him (they have him running as one of the cancelled Mayors just now - he would be a far better defence spokesman), and he is eventually made Defence Sec.
You think Reform signing up a racist and misogynist is good?
Care to explain?
Really? You need me to explain? He was discussed on here just a few days ago regarding his views and his posts to the internet, and interviews, etc. I mean a quick search on the internet and you can get a bucket full of it.
I tend to think if you're prepared to make bold accusations you should be able to stand them up briefly and cogently. I'm not sure why I would be expected to scour the internet for evidence.
Dunno, one might tend t think anyone boldly proposing someone as a defense spokesman and potential Defense* Sec would have done some minimal research on that person.
*Spelled that way for annoyance.
I provided a long-form interview including real examples of successful projects within the MOD to back up my claim that this man would make a good Defence Secretary. So far, neither KJH or yourself has provided anything that would indicate that his claims are anything other than ignorant weak-minded bilge.
Do you agree with Admiral Pugwash that British born Muslims are insufficiently loyal to the UK? If so what do you think should happen to them?
I wonder if the courts will also start taking a dim view of trans activists using them to enact petty vendettas against people who don’t share their worldview too ?
"petty vendettas against people who don’t share their worldview"
...There’s a world of difference between using lawfare against gender critical individuals, such as happens to people like Maya Forstater and others and actually challenging public bodies to act within the law...
Point 1: Lawfare in the UK is the province of who has the most money. Of the two sides, who do you think has more?
Point 2: Even FWS vs Scottish Ministers acknowledged that trans people have rights. The existence of trans people as trans people is not currently debated (at least openly: sotto voce it is deafening) so the expression of Pride in their existence is not technically a partisan point.
Help with fees is a great leveller.
No one is saying trans people don’t have rights.
If trans people have rights (including their existence as trans people) then there is no partiality in attending Pride marches to express pride in those rights, and Prof Stock's intervention fails.
In news of a very good Reform signing, this is a very interesting, sometimes sparky interview of Rear Admiral Dr David Parry with David Starkey (on somewhat tetchy form).
Calmly devastating on the current state of our military, but with sensible solutions. Let's hope Reform listens to him (they have him running as one of the cancelled Mayors just now - he would be a far better defence spokesman), and he is eventually made Defence Sec.
You think Reform signing up a racist and misogynist is good?
Care to explain?
Really? You need me to explain? He was discussed on here just a few days ago regarding his views and his posts to the internet, and interviews, etc. I mean a quick search on the internet and you can get a bucket full of it.
I tend to think if you're prepared to make bold accusations you should be able to stand them up briefly and cogently. I'm not sure why I would be expected to scour the internet for evidence.
No scouring necessary. I don't need to do the research for you. If I said Stalin or Hitler weren't very nice people would you require me to provide evidence ?
Although you might need to read all the subsequent posts from me and others to find the story developed and you may have got the name wrong causing all sorts of confusion (helped by my incompetence).
You're not being asked to do research 'for me', you've made a claim and I asked you to back it up. You've failed to provide a shred of evidence, so I shall file your 'viewpoint' where I feel it belongs.
Another poll showing a rise for the Conservatives.
MIC has Reform 28%, Conservatives 22%, Labour 21%.
The tragedy is they will both cockblock each other so Labour wins again.
Depends where the Tory recovery is. If it’s in seats where LDs are the opposition they may free parliament from these largely earnest buffoons.
The Tory recovery would need to take them over their 2024 vote share, and counteract some consolidated tactical voting, to stand a chance of removing those stout patriotic Trump-trolling yeomen of merrie Gales Bakery England.
I wonder how consolidated the tactical voting is/was. Clearly there was the feeling we had all had enough of the Tories in 2024. Will that really be the case in 2028 or 2029.
I’m unsure it will be but then the nearest Gail’s to me is in a different timezone and I know little of these areas you call ‘middle class’
I thought you lived in Kenilworth?
Many years ago. About 2005 - 2007 when I worked at Magna in Leamington. I lodged with my friends ex wife.
I’m in North Durham these days.
There’s a Gail’s in Leamington now. The march of the mid-tier chain bakery is unstoppable. North Durham next.
There’s a Gail’s in my borough but it’ll never be Lib Dem. We’re in one of the 20% most deprived council areas in the country.
Well we have the new Willow Bakery which has been a roaring success. So it’s not all Greggs and Coopland 👍
Not a humblebrag but when I look online my council ward is not really deprived at all. The town is and around the Avenues, but where we live doesn’t class as deprived.
It seems bizarre, on the face of it, wealthy London where properties in Lewisham would go for far more than round here. As I was discussing with someone the other day about flats in West Ham, my house would go for,half the,price of a 1 bed there and I have a 3 bed detached in a quiet cul de sac next to,the woods.
Yes, London prices are something else. We live in a tourist hotspot, popular enough to have a few film stars buying holiday homes, but we wouldn't get much in London for our house here.
What's notable looking at the listings is that they mostly lead with photos of the fancy interiors, rather than a traditional exterior shot, because the exteriors look mostly the same as much cheaper properties elsewhere, but the interiors more closely match the prices being asked for.
Southwold where we have our holiday home is pretty much London prices and full of luvvies. Once upon a time if a house came on the market it was snapped up usually at a premium. However over the last year or so houses haven't been selling and even dropping in price, more than elsewhere. Not sure if it is the doubling of the council tax on holiday homes, Sizewell C works or the work to land electricity cables and the units they have to build from offshore wind turbines. Something is up though.
The neighbours, and middle aged men in antisocial sports cars?
The weather looks good for National Road Test and Tune Day tomorrow so I hop kjh is out banging limiter (which in in a Rover V8 is about 4,500rpm where the pushrods start bending and it becomes asthmatic).
I'll be out exercising the E63 all the way to its operatic 7,700rpm red line.
I'm fairly sure my Tiv did about 5300. But it hit the limiter hard and you really had to change up before then.
I wonder if the courts will also start taking a dim view of trans activists using them to enact petty vendettas against people who don’t share their worldview too ?
"petty vendettas against people who don’t share their worldview"
...There’s a world of difference between using lawfare against gender critical individuals, such as happens to people like Maya Forstater and others and actually challenging public bodies to act within the law...
Point 1: Lawfare in the UK is the province of who has the most money. Of the two sides, who do you think has more?
Point 2: Even FWS vs Scottish Ministers acknowledged that trans people have rights. The existence of trans people as trans people is not currently debated (at least openly: sotto voce it is deafening) so the expression of Pride in their existence is not technically a partisan point.
1. No it isn't.
Ah, Panto. OK, let us wait until the inevitable response gallops towards us from the horizon
(hoof beats get louder until there is a screeching stop)
1. Oh, yes it is.
(or possibly not. I don't know if I'm agreeing with you or not. Your reply, although admirably brief, was unclear)
I wonder if the courts will also start taking a dim view of trans activists using them to enact petty vendettas against people who don’t share their worldview too ?
"petty vendettas against people who don’t share their worldview"
I look forward to your impartial article on the issue....I’m sure your completely impartial piece will reflect that and not your pro trans sentiment.
That's a fair point. Impartiality can be aspired to but it is difficult to remove the self from the article, whatever the article subject and whoever the self.
However I have sought (and am continuing) to do achieve some kind of objectivity by adopting NPOV, providing references, removing the jokes, and seeking comment from discussants, two from the pro-trans side, two from the gender-critical side. For the discussants I sought GC discussant testimony to the point where I nagged DavidL more than once to provide it and - following his opt-out - I will seek another (probably @fitalass) to fill the gap. If that does not reassure you you can ask DavidL, who has read it.
I don't know if there will be pre-readers on this one. It's been months now and I have time limits: James Baldwin IIRC could write beautiful prose overnight ready for publication but I am thumb-fisted and write slowly. But if there are you will be invited and can raise concerns like every other pre-reader. When it is published you can point out any errors/biases you see and discuss them in the comments.
I really appreciate those creating headers for PB. For the food for the thought they provide, for the considerable time it takes to put the piece together, and for a certain bravery in publishing it. Suppose you get a fact wrong? It's so much easier to fire off half arsed opinion below the line.
My advice, for what's it's worth, is just put your piece out there. I'm sure it will generate interesting debate, which ultimately is the purpose.
Another poll showing a rise for the Conservatives.
MIC has Reform 28%, Conservatives 22%, Labour 21%.
The tragedy is they will both cockblock each other so Labour wins again.
Depends where the Tory recovery is. If it’s in seats where LDs are the opposition they may free parliament from these largely earnest buffoons.
The Tory recovery would need to take them over their 2024 vote share, and counteract some consolidated tactical voting, to stand a chance of removing those stout patriotic Trump-trolling yeomen of merrie Gales Bakery England.
I wonder how consolidated the tactical voting is/was. Clearly there was the feeling we had all had enough of the Tories in 2024. Will that really be the case in 2028 or 2029.
I’m unsure it will be but then the nearest Gail’s to me is in a different timezone and I know little of these areas you call ‘middle class’
I thought you lived in Kenilworth?
Many years ago. About 2005 - 2007 when I worked at Magna in Leamington. I lodged with my friends ex wife.
I’m in North Durham these days.
There’s a Gail’s in Leamington now. The march of the mid-tier chain bakery is unstoppable. North Durham next.
There’s a Gail’s in my borough but it’ll never be Lib Dem. We’re in one of the 20% most deprived council areas in the country.
Well we have the new Willow Bakery which has been a roaring success. So it’s not all Greggs and Coopland 👍
Not a humblebrag but when I look online my council ward is not really deprived at all. The town is and around the Avenues, but where we live doesn’t class as deprived.
It seems bizarre, on the face of it, wealthy London where properties in Lewisham would go for far more than round here. As I was discussing with someone the other day about flats in West Ham, my house would go for,half the,price of a 1 bed there and I have a 3 bed detached in a quiet cul de sac next to,the woods.
Yes, London prices are something else. We live in a tourist hotspot, popular enough to have a few film stars buying holiday homes, but we wouldn't get much in London for our house here.
What's notable looking at the listings is that they mostly lead with photos of the fancy interiors, rather than a traditional exterior shot, because the exteriors look mostly the same as much cheaper properties elsewhere, but the interiors more closely match the prices being asked for.
Southwold where we have our holiday home is pretty much London prices and full of luvvies. Once upon a time if a house came on the market it was snapped up usually at a premium. However over the last year or so houses haven't been selling and even dropping in price, more than elsewhere. Not sure if it is the doubling of the council tax on holiday homes, Sizewell C works or the work to land electricity cables and the units they have to build from offshore wind turbines. Something is up though.
The neighbours, and middle aged men in antisocial sports cars?
The weather looks good for National Road Test and Tune Day tomorrow so I hop kjh is out banging limiter (which in in a Rover V8 is about 4,500rpm where the pushrods start bending and it becomes asthmatic).
I'll be out exercising the E63 all the way to its operatic 7,700rpm red line.
I'm fairly sure my Tiv did about 5300. But it hit the limiter hard and you really had to change up before then.
I hope a 4L Rover V8 can do more than that cos mine has frequently (I mean a lot) and still seems ok (fingers crossed).
Clare Melford and Imran Ahmed - fairly serious people.
No, self appointed watchdogs. No official standing, who appoints them and how do they decide what is and isn’t problematic. Just another pressure group or two and not effective simply partisan left of centre lobbyists
Just look at how the GDIH managed to block advertisers going to Unherd.
Fuck both groups. They’re all about a narrative they support.
So? They’re a pressure group. They’re allowed to voice an opinion like any other group or person, aren’t they? Not according to Trump’s administration, which only allows certain thinking, even among people in other countries.
I have just spoken with @ThierryBreton and thanked him for his significant contributions in the service of Europe. We will stand firm against pressure and will protect Europeans.
Another poll showing a rise for the Conservatives.
MIC has Reform 28%, Conservatives 22%, Labour 21%.
The tragedy is they will both cockblock each other so Labour wins again.
Depends where the Tory recovery is. If it’s in seats where LDs are the opposition they may free parliament from these largely earnest buffoons.
The Tory recovery would need to take them over their 2024 vote share, and counteract some consolidated tactical voting, to stand a chance of removing those stout patriotic Trump-trolling yeomen of merrie Gales Bakery England.
I wonder how consolidated the tactical voting is/was. Clearly there was the feeling we had all had enough of the Tories in 2024. Will that really be the case in 2028 or 2029.
I’m unsure it will be but then the nearest Gail’s to me is in a different timezone and I know little of these areas you call ‘middle class’
I thought you lived in Kenilworth?
Many years ago. About 2005 - 2007 when I worked at Magna in Leamington. I lodged with my friends ex wife.
I’m in North Durham these days.
There’s a Gail’s in Leamington now. The march of the mid-tier chain bakery is unstoppable. North Durham next.
There’s a Gail’s in my borough but it’ll never be Lib Dem. We’re in one of the 20% most deprived council areas in the country.
Well we have the new Willow Bakery which has been a roaring success. So it’s not all Greggs and Coopland 👍
Not a humblebrag but when I look online my council ward is not really deprived at all. The town is and around the Avenues, but where we live doesn’t class as deprived.
It seems bizarre, on the face of it, wealthy London where properties in Lewisham would go for far more than round here. As I was discussing with someone the other day about flats in West Ham, my house would go for,half the,price of a 1 bed there and I have a 3 bed detached in a quiet cul de sac next to,the woods.
Yes, London prices are something else. We live in a tourist hotspot, popular enough to have a few film stars buying holiday homes, but we wouldn't get much in London for our house here.
What's notable looking at the listings is that they mostly lead with photos of the fancy interiors, rather than a traditional exterior shot, because the exteriors look mostly the same as much cheaper properties elsewhere, but the interiors more closely match the prices being asked for.
Southwold where we have our holiday home is pretty much London prices and full of luvvies. Once upon a time if a house came on the market it was snapped up usually at a premium. However over the last year or so houses haven't been selling and even dropping in price, more than elsewhere. Not sure if it is the doubling of the council tax on holiday homes, Sizewell C works or the work to land electricity cables and the units they have to build from offshore wind turbines. Something is up though.
The neighbours, and middle aged men in antisocial sports cars?
The weather looks good for National Road Test and Tune Day tomorrow so I hop kjh is out banging limiter (which in in a Rover V8 is about 4,500rpm where the pushrods start bending and it becomes asthmatic).
I'll be out exercising the E63 all the way to its operatic 7,700rpm red line.
Funny you guys should say that because I have just taken my daughter out in the Cobra. It's her first time. Goodness it was cold and I got burnt off at the traffic lights by an Audi something or other. Her one word description of the experience was 'Interesting'.
France condemns the visa restriction measures taken by the United States against Thierry Breton and four other European figures.
These measures amount to intimidation and coercion aimed at undermining European digital sovereignty.
Eurpoean authorities appear somewhat surprised at the backlash to their targeting of American companies for large fines.
European authorities believe in sovereignty. All companies operating in the EU need to obey EU law.
The Sceptics are not making friends anywhere- they are pushing Europe from Alliance to Enmity. They think that the world population falling makes Europe uniquely weak. However by destroying inbound immigration to the US, the neo Fascist, Bannon inspired far right in America are destroying their own demographics too.
The US needs friends to be the so-called leader of the free world, and those friends should not include a Russia which is on the edge of ruin.
I wonder if the courts will also start taking a dim view of trans activists using them to enact petty vendettas against people who don’t share their worldview too ?
"petty vendettas against people who don’t share their worldview"
...There’s a world of difference between using lawfare against gender critical individuals, such as happens to people like Maya Forstater and others and actually challenging public bodies to act within the law...
Point 1: Lawfare in the UK is the province of who has the most money. Of the two sides, who do you think has more?
Point 2: Even FWS vs Scottish Ministers acknowledged that trans people have rights. The existence of trans people as trans people is not currently debated (at least openly: sotto voce it is deafening) so the expression of Pride in their existence is not technically a partisan point.
Help with fees is a great leveller.
No one is saying trans people don’t have rights.
If trans people have rights (including their existence as trans people) then there is no partiality in attending Pride marches to express pride in those rights, and Prof Stock's intervention fails.
Her intervention is about the civil service, not individuals.
Clare Melford and Imran Ahmed - fairly serious people.
No, self appointed watchdogs. No official standing, who appoints them and how do they decide what is and isn’t problematic. Just another pressure group or two and not effective simply partisan left of centre lobbyists
Just look at how the GDIH managed to block advertisers going to Unherd.
Fuck both groups. They’re all about a narrative they support.
So? They’re a pressure group. They’re allowed to voice an opinion like any other group or person, aren’t they? Not according to Trump’s administration, which only allows certain thinking, even among people in other countries.
They are allowed to voice an opinion but they do more than that. They target the businesses and their income stream by targetting advertisers. Often based on a disdain for the owner. They are unelected, politically partisan, and have an agenda.
I wonder if the courts will also start taking a dim view of trans activists using them to enact petty vendettas against people who don’t share their worldview too ?
"petty vendettas against people who don’t share their worldview"
...There’s a world of difference between using lawfare against gender critical individuals, such as happens to people like Maya Forstater and others and actually challenging public bodies to act within the law...
Point 1: Lawfare in the UK is the province of who has the most money. Of the two sides, who do you think has more?
Point 2: Even FWS vs Scottish Ministers acknowledged that trans people have rights. The existence of trans people as trans people is not currently debated (at least openly: sotto voce it is deafening) so the expression of Pride in their existence is not technically a partisan point.
Help with fees is a great leveller.
No one is saying trans people don’t have rights.
If trans people have rights (including their existence as trans people) then there is no partiality in attending Pride marches to express pride in those rights, and Prof Stock's intervention fails.
Her intervention is about the civil service, not individuals.
The "Civil Service" does not attend Pride marches: people would notice if an office block walked down the street. The individual civil servants do. Her case is that such attendance at Pride facially breaches impartiality and compromises the ability of the individual to provide impartial advice. But the civil service has never (except in wartime and for sensitive positions/times) prevented people from holding opinions. If those opinions lead to partial advice that is a different matter, and the individual would be disciplined in the normal manner. But you have to commit the crime before punishment and Prof Stock's intervention veers to close to precrime for my liking.
Another poll showing a rise for the Conservatives.
MIC has Reform 28%, Conservatives 22%, Labour 21%.
The tragedy is they will both cockblock each other so Labour wins again.
Depends where the Tory recovery is. If it’s in seats where LDs are the opposition they may free parliament from these largely earnest buffoons.
The Tory recovery would need to take them over their 2024 vote share, and counteract some consolidated tactical voting, to stand a chance of removing those stout patriotic Trump-trolling yeomen of merrie Gales Bakery England.
I wonder how consolidated the tactical voting is/was. Clearly there was the feeling we had all had enough of the Tories in 2024. Will that really be the case in 2028 or 2029.
I’m unsure it will be but then the nearest Gail’s to me is in a different timezone and I know little of these areas you call ‘middle class’
I thought you lived in Kenilworth?
Many years ago. About 2005 - 2007 when I worked at Magna in Leamington. I lodged with my friends ex wife.
I’m in North Durham these days.
There’s a Gail’s in Leamington now. The march of the mid-tier chain bakery is unstoppable. North Durham next.
There’s a Gail’s in my borough but it’ll never be Lib Dem. We’re in one of the 20% most deprived council areas in the country.
Well we have the new Willow Bakery which has been a roaring success. So it’s not all Greggs and Coopland 👍
Not a humblebrag but when I look online my council ward is not really deprived at all. The town is and around the Avenues, but where we live doesn’t class as deprived.
It seems bizarre, on the face of it, wealthy London where properties in Lewisham would go for far more than round here. As I was discussing with someone the other day about flats in West Ham, my house would go for,half the,price of a 1 bed there and I have a 3 bed detached in a quiet cul de sac next to,the woods.
Yes, London prices are something else. We live in a tourist hotspot, popular enough to have a few film stars buying holiday homes, but we wouldn't get much in London for our house here.
What's notable looking at the listings is that they mostly lead with photos of the fancy interiors, rather than a traditional exterior shot, because the exteriors look mostly the same as much cheaper properties elsewhere, but the interiors more closely match the prices being asked for.
Southwold where we have our holiday home is pretty much London prices and full of luvvies. Once upon a time if a house came on the market it was snapped up usually at a premium. However over the last year or so houses haven't been selling and even dropping in price, more than elsewhere. Not sure if it is the doubling of the council tax on holiday homes, Sizewell C works or the work to land electricity cables and the units they have to build from offshore wind turbines. Something is up though.
The neighbours, and middle aged men in antisocial sports cars?
The weather looks good for National Road Test and Tune Day tomorrow so I hop kjh is out banging limiter (which in in a Rover V8 is about 4,500rpm where the pushrods start bending and it becomes asthmatic).
I'll be out exercising the E63 all the way to its operatic 7,700rpm red line.
I'm fairly sure my Tiv did about 5300. But it hit the limiter hard and you really had to change up before then.
I hope a 4L Rover V8 can do more than that cos mine has frequently (I mean a lot) and still seems ok (fingers crossed).
It'll do it and probably won't blow up, it just won't be making much more power than it did at lower rpm due to valve float and the limitations of the 50s head design. RV8s are actually pretty sturdy (Buick always intended them to use forced induction so the NA ones are understressed) but you've got to keep on top of the oil changes (I'd do it every 3,000 miles) and don't let it run too cool (or too hot LOL). Check your oil, check your temps and it'll probably outlive you.
I wonder if the courts will also start taking a dim view of trans activists using them to enact petty vendettas against people who don’t share their worldview too ?
"petty vendettas against people who don’t share their worldview"
...There’s a world of difference between using lawfare against gender critical individuals, such as happens to people like Maya Forstater and others and actually challenging public bodies to act within the law...
Point 1: Lawfare in the UK is the province of who has the most money. Of the two sides, who do you think has more?
Point 2: Even FWS vs Scottish Ministers acknowledged that trans people have rights. The existence of trans people as trans people is not currently debated (at least openly: sotto voce it is deafening) so the expression of Pride in their existence is not technically a partisan point.
Help with fees is a great leveller.
No one is saying trans people don’t have rights.
If trans people have rights (including their existence as trans people) then there is no partiality in attending Pride marches to express pride in those rights, and Prof Stock's intervention fails.
Her intervention is about the civil service, not individuals.
The "Civil Service" does not attend Pride marches: people would notice if an office block walked down the street. The individual civil servants do. Her case is that such attendance at Pride facially breaches impartiality and compromises the ability of the individual to provide impartial advice. But the civil service has never (except in wartime and for sensitive positions/times) prevented people from holding opinions. If those opinions lead to partial advice that is a different matter, and the individual would be disciplined in the normal manner. But you have to commit the crime before punishment and Prof Stock's intervention veers to close to precrime for my liking.
However we have had govt and local govt bodies attending pride previously. It has been ruled unlawful
Doesn’t bother me initially but when it starts informing their conduct it becomes an issue. As happened with the Newcaslte fan barred from the football for,her opinions and it was the local Police that helped that process along.
Another poll showing a rise for the Conservatives.
MIC has Reform 28%, Conservatives 22%, Labour 21%.
The tragedy is they will both cockblock each other so Labour wins again.
Depends where the Tory recovery is. If it’s in seats where LDs are the opposition they may free parliament from these largely earnest buffoons.
The Tory recovery would need to take them over their 2024 vote share, and counteract some consolidated tactical voting, to stand a chance of removing those stout patriotic Trump-trolling yeomen of merrie Gales Bakery England.
I wonder how consolidated the tactical voting is/was. Clearly there was the feeling we had all had enough of the Tories in 2024. Will that really be the case in 2028 or 2029.
I’m unsure it will be but then the nearest Gail’s to me is in a different timezone and I know little of these areas you call ‘middle class’
I thought you lived in Kenilworth?
Many years ago. About 2005 - 2007 when I worked at Magna in Leamington. I lodged with my friends ex wife.
I’m in North Durham these days.
There’s a Gail’s in Leamington now. The march of the mid-tier chain bakery is unstoppable. North Durham next.
There’s a Gail’s in my borough but it’ll never be Lib Dem. We’re in one of the 20% most deprived council areas in the country.
Well we have the new Willow Bakery which has been a roaring success. So it’s not all Greggs and Coopland 👍
Not a humblebrag but when I look online my council ward is not really deprived at all. The town is and around the Avenues, but where we live doesn’t class as deprived.
It seems bizarre, on the face of it, wealthy London where properties in Lewisham would go for far more than round here. As I was discussing with someone the other day about flats in West Ham, my house would go for,half the,price of a 1 bed there and I have a 3 bed detached in a quiet cul de sac next to,the woods.
Yes, London prices are something else. We live in a tourist hotspot, popular enough to have a few film stars buying holiday homes, but we wouldn't get much in London for our house here.
What's notable looking at the listings is that they mostly lead with photos of the fancy interiors, rather than a traditional exterior shot, because the exteriors look mostly the same as much cheaper properties elsewhere, but the interiors more closely match the prices being asked for.
Southwold where we have our holiday home is pretty much London prices and full of luvvies. Once upon a time if a house came on the market it was snapped up usually at a premium. However over the last year or so houses haven't been selling and even dropping in price, more than elsewhere. Not sure if it is the doubling of the council tax on holiday homes, Sizewell C works or the work to land electricity cables and the units they have to build from offshore wind turbines. Something is up though.
The neighbours, and middle aged men in antisocial sports cars?
The weather looks good for National Road Test and Tune Day tomorrow so I hop kjh is out banging limiter (which in in a Rover V8 is about 4,500rpm where the pushrods start bending and it becomes asthmatic).
I'll be out exercising the E63 all the way to its operatic 7,700rpm red line.
I'm fairly sure my Tiv did about 5300. But it hit the limiter hard and you really had to change up before then.
I hope a 4L Rover V8 can do more than that cos mine has frequently (I mean a lot) and still seems ok (fingers crossed).
It'll do it and probably won't blow up, it just won't be making much more power than it did at lower rpm due to valve float and the limitations of the 50s head design. RV8s are actually pretty sturdy (Buick always intended them to use forced induction so the NA ones are understressed) but you've got to keep on top of the oil changes (I'd do it every 3,000 miles) and don't let it run too cool (or too hot LOL). Check your oil, check your temps and it'll probably outlive you.
I'm only likely to 1000 miles per year and will change it every year. I do keep an eye on it anyway as it leaks like a sieve. What do you mean by letting it run too cool? Sorry I'm not a techie. And yes it does get hot and yes I do keep an eye on that. Definitely doesn't like traffic jams. First time I have had a keen eye on temperature and pressure dials.
Another poll showing a rise for the Conservatives.
MIC has Reform 28%, Conservatives 22%, Labour 21%.
The tragedy is they will both cockblock each other so Labour wins again.
Depends where the Tory recovery is. If it’s in seats where LDs are the opposition they may free parliament from these largely earnest buffoons.
The Tory recovery would need to take them over their 2024 vote share, and counteract some consolidated tactical voting, to stand a chance of removing those stout patriotic Trump-trolling yeomen of merrie Gales Bakery England.
I wonder how consolidated the tactical voting is/was. Clearly there was the feeling we had all had enough of the Tories in 2024. Will that really be the case in 2028 or 2029.
I’m unsure it will be but then the nearest Gail’s to me is in a different timezone and I know little of these areas you call ‘middle class’
I thought you lived in Kenilworth?
Many years ago. About 2005 - 2007 when I worked at Magna in Leamington. I lodged with my friends ex wife.
I’m in North Durham these days.
There’s a Gail’s in Leamington now. The march of the mid-tier chain bakery is unstoppable. North Durham next.
There’s a Gail’s in my borough but it’ll never be Lib Dem. We’re in one of the 20% most deprived council areas in the country.
Well we have the new Willow Bakery which has been a roaring success. So it’s not all Greggs and Coopland 👍
Not a humblebrag but when I look online my council ward is not really deprived at all. The town is and around the Avenues, but where we live doesn’t class as deprived.
It seems bizarre, on the face of it, wealthy London where properties in Lewisham would go for far more than round here. As I was discussing with someone the other day about flats in West Ham, my house would go for,half the,price of a 1 bed there and I have a 3 bed detached in a quiet cul de sac next to,the woods.
Yes, London prices are something else. We live in a tourist hotspot, popular enough to have a few film stars buying holiday homes, but we wouldn't get much in London for our house here.
What's notable looking at the listings is that they mostly lead with photos of the fancy interiors, rather than a traditional exterior shot, because the exteriors look mostly the same as much cheaper properties elsewhere, but the interiors more closely match the prices being asked for.
Southwold where we have our holiday home is pretty much London prices and full of luvvies. Once upon a time if a house came on the market it was snapped up usually at a premium. However over the last year or so houses haven't been selling and even dropping in price, more than elsewhere. Not sure if it is the doubling of the council tax on holiday homes, Sizewell C works or the work to land electricity cables and the units they have to build from offshore wind turbines. Something is up though.
The neighbours, and middle aged men in antisocial sports cars?
The weather looks good for National Road Test and Tune Day tomorrow so I hop kjh is out banging limiter (which in in a Rover V8 is about 4,500rpm where the pushrods start bending and it becomes asthmatic).
I'll be out exercising the E63 all the way to its operatic 7,700rpm red line.
I'm fairly sure my Tiv did about 5300. But it hit the limiter hard and you really had to change up before then.
I hope a 4L Rover V8 can do more than that cos mine has frequently (I mean a lot) and still seems ok (fingers crossed).
It'll do it and probably won't blow up, it just won't be making much more power than it did at lower rpm due to valve float and the limitations of the 50s head design. RV8s are actually pretty sturdy (Buick always intended them to use forced induction so the NA ones are understressed) but you've got to keep on top of the oil changes (I'd do it every 3,000 miles) and don't let it run too cool (or too hot LOL). Check your oil, check your temps and it'll probably outlive you.
I'm only likely to 1000 miles per year and will change it every year. I do keep an eye on it anyway as it leaks like a sieve. What do you mean by letting it run too cool? Sorry I'm not a techie. And yes it does get hot and yes I do keep an eye on that. Definitely doesn't like traffic jams. First time I have had a keen eye on temperature and pressure dials.
You want it between 80 and 90. Too hot and it'll probably blow a head gasket or a hose, too cold and it tars up, particularly the cam. If it has a stock thermostat, it'll be an 88. If consistently runs above 90 you want to replace the thermostat immediately, maybe with an 84. If it runs below 80 then replace it with a 90+. This is very easy to do on that engine. I imagine it'll tend to run hot rather than cool in the Cobra.
In news of a very good Reform signing, this is a very interesting, sometimes sparky interview of Rear Admiral Dr David Parry with David Starkey (on somewhat tetchy form).
Calmly devastating on the current state of our military, but with sensible solutions. Let's hope Reform listens to him (they have him running as one of the cancelled Mayors just now - he would be a far better defence spokesman), and he is eventually made Defence Sec.
You think Reform signing up a racist and misogynist is good?
Care to explain?
Really? You need me to explain? He was discussed on here just a few days ago regarding his views and his posts to the internet, and interviews, etc. I mean a quick search on the internet and you can get a bucket full of it.
I tend to think if you're prepared to make bold accusations you should be able to stand them up briefly and cogently. I'm not sure why I would be expected to scour the internet for evidence.
Dunno, one might tend t think anyone boldly proposing someone as a defense spokesman and potential Defense* Sec would have done some minimal research on that person.
*Spelled that way for annoyance.
I provided a long-form interview including real examples of successful projects within the MOD to back up my claim that this man would make a good Defence Secretary. So far, neither KJH or yourself has provided anything that would indicate that his claims are anything other than ignorant weak-minded bilge.
Do you agree with Admiral Pugwash that British born Muslims are insufficiently loyal to the UK? If so what do you think should happen to them?
I was going to say that Dr Perry's attacks are completely unjustified, mostly because he has chosen to attack a narrow selection of people with ethnic background being a clear commonality. However, looking not very far down at Dr Parry's X feed tells me he has also accused the following of not being loyal to the UK:
Journalist Matt Kennard MP Gavin Barwell Minister Wes Streeting PM Keir Starmer
That would suggest that questioning peoples' loyalty to the UK is something of an all-purpose pre-occupation.
I don't know if such interventions are wise, and I don't have a window into Dr Parry's soul, but I do know that I want (and we need) a Defence Secretary to put in place a strategy to make us safe from attack, before any other consideration. I would prefer that to be someone guided by no other passions and prejudices than a desire to do the job well, but for the time being I will take Dr Parry in the absence of another serious candidate.
Ventured into rural Middlesex yesterday, and all I got was this picture of Colindale's brand new station building, opened on Monday:
Bugger me, no wonder it's been such a pain to get to the RAF Museum if they've been replacing the manky old concrete station-cum-shopping centre with that. Is that a moulded-laminated timber shell?
I wonder if the courts will also start taking a dim view of trans activists using them to enact petty vendettas against people who don’t share their worldview too ?
"petty vendettas against people who don’t share their worldview"
...There’s a world of difference between using lawfare against gender critical individuals, such as happens to people like Maya Forstater and others and actually challenging public bodies to act within the law...
Point 1: Lawfare in the UK is the province of who has the most money. Of the two sides, who do you think has more?
Point 2: Even FWS vs Scottish Ministers acknowledged that trans people have rights. The existence of trans people as trans people is not currently debated (at least openly: sotto voce it is deafening) so the expression of Pride in their existence is not technically a partisan point.
Help with fees is a great leveller.
No one is saying trans people don’t have rights.
If trans people have rights (including their existence as trans people) then there is no partiality in attending Pride marches to express pride in those rights, and Prof Stock's intervention fails.
Another poll showing a rise for the Conservatives.
MIC has Reform 28%, Conservatives 22%, Labour 21%.
The tragedy is they will both cockblock each other so Labour wins again.
Depends where the Tory recovery is. If it’s in seats where LDs are the opposition they may free parliament from these largely earnest buffoons.
The Tory recovery would need to take them over their 2024 vote share, and counteract some consolidated tactical voting, to stand a chance of removing those stout patriotic Trump-trolling yeomen of merrie Gales Bakery England.
I wonder how consolidated the tactical voting is/was. Clearly there was the feeling we had all had enough of the Tories in 2024. Will that really be the case in 2028 or 2029.
I’m unsure it will be but then the nearest Gail’s to me is in a different timezone and I know little of these areas you call ‘middle class’
I thought you lived in Kenilworth?
Many years ago. About 2005 - 2007 when I worked at Magna in Leamington. I lodged with my friends ex wife.
I’m in North Durham these days.
There’s a Gail’s in Leamington now. The march of the mid-tier chain bakery is unstoppable. North Durham next.
There’s a Gail’s in my borough but it’ll never be Lib Dem. We’re in one of the 20% most deprived council areas in the country.
Well we have the new Willow Bakery which has been a roaring success. So it’s not all Greggs and Coopland 👍
Not a humblebrag but when I look online my council ward is not really deprived at all. The town is and around the Avenues, but where we live doesn’t class as deprived.
It seems bizarre, on the face of it, wealthy London where properties in Lewisham would go for far more than round here. As I was discussing with someone the other day about flats in West Ham, my house would go for,half the,price of a 1 bed there and I have a 3 bed detached in a quiet cul de sac next to,the woods.
Yes, London prices are something else. We live in a tourist hotspot, popular enough to have a few film stars buying holiday homes, but we wouldn't get much in London for our house here.
What's notable looking at the listings is that they mostly lead with photos of the fancy interiors, rather than a traditional exterior shot, because the exteriors look mostly the same as much cheaper properties elsewhere, but the interiors more closely match the prices being asked for.
Southwold where we have our holiday home is pretty much London prices and full of luvvies. Once upon a time if a house came on the market it was snapped up usually at a premium. However over the last year or so houses haven't been selling and even dropping in price, more than elsewhere. Not sure if it is the doubling of the council tax on holiday homes, Sizewell C works or the work to land electricity cables and the units they have to build from offshore wind turbines. Something is up though.
The neighbours, and middle aged men in antisocial sports cars?
The weather looks good for National Road Test and Tune Day tomorrow so I hop kjh is out banging limiter (which in in a Rover V8 is about 4,500rpm where the pushrods start bending and it becomes asthmatic).
I'll be out exercising the E63 all the way to its operatic 7,700rpm red line.
I'm fairly sure my Tiv did about 5300. But it hit the limiter hard and you really had to change up before then.
I hope a 4L Rover V8 can do more than that cos mine has frequently (I mean a lot) and still seems ok (fingers crossed).
It'll do it and probably won't blow up, it just won't be making much more power than it did at lower rpm due to valve float and the limitations of the 50s head design. RV8s are actually pretty sturdy (Buick always intended them to use forced induction so the NA ones are understressed) but you've got to keep on top of the oil changes (I'd do it every 3,000 miles) and don't let it run too cool (or too hot LOL). Check your oil, check your temps and it'll probably outlive you.
I'm only likely to 1000 miles per year and will change it every year. I do keep an eye on it anyway as it leaks like a sieve. What do you mean by letting it run too cool? Sorry I'm not a techie. And yes it does get hot and yes I do keep an eye on that. Definitely doesn't like traffic jams. First time I have had a keen eye on temperature and pressure dials.
You want it between 80 and 90. Too hot and it'll probably blow a head gasket or a hose, too cold and it tars up, particularly the cam. If it has a stock thermostat, it'll be an 88. If consistently runs above 90 you want to replace the thermostat immediately, maybe with an 84. If it runs below 80 then replace it with a 90+. This is very easy to do on that engine. I imagine it'll tend to run hot rather than cool in the Cobra.
Assuming my gauge is accurate, which is a big ask, it runs at 90 most of the time. It will then sometimes increase to about 120 and then drop back down as soon as it peaks back to 90. The cable to my fan dropped off. It has been put back on but I don't now know whether it is sucking or blowing. As it is the engine side of the radiator I need it to suck. I will check that when it is warmer. But regardless the gauge behaviour has been consistent before this slight mishap.
I wonder if the courts will also start taking a dim view of trans activists using them to enact petty vendettas against people who don’t share their worldview too ?
"petty vendettas against people who don’t share their worldview"
...There’s a world of difference between using lawfare against gender critical individuals, such as happens to people like Maya Forstater and others and actually challenging public bodies to act within the law...
Point 1: Lawfare in the UK is the province of who has the most money. Of the two sides, who do you think has more?
Point 2: Even FWS vs Scottish Ministers acknowledged that trans people have rights. The existence of trans people as trans people is not currently debated (at least openly: sotto voce it is deafening) so the expression of Pride in their existence is not technically a partisan point.
1. No it isn't.
Ah, Panto. OK, let us wait until the inevitable response gallops towards us from the horizon
(hoof beats get louder until there is a screeching stop)
1. Oh, yes it is.
(or possibly not. I don't know if I'm agreeing with you or not. Your reply, although admirably brief, was unclear)
I hoped the bald statement of disagreement might be enough to get you to withdraw a rather asinine and totally unsupported statement. The relative financial reserves of pressure groups have no bearing on whether they choose lawfare as a strategy. They merely need to have enough to mount legal challenges, or (if you include the practice of using the police to arrest opponents) a working phone.
Another poll showing a rise for the Conservatives.
MIC has Reform 28%, Conservatives 22%, Labour 21%.
The tragedy is they will both cockblock each other so Labour wins again.
Depends where the Tory recovery is. If it’s in seats where LDs are the opposition they may free parliament from these largely earnest buffoons.
The Tory recovery would need to take them over their 2024 vote share, and counteract some consolidated tactical voting, to stand a chance of removing those stout patriotic Trump-trolling yeomen of merrie Gales Bakery England.
I wonder how consolidated the tactical voting is/was. Clearly there was the feeling we had all had enough of the Tories in 2024. Will that really be the case in 2028 or 2029.
I’m unsure it will be but then the nearest Gail’s to me is in a different timezone and I know little of these areas you call ‘middle class’
I thought you lived in Kenilworth?
Many years ago. About 2005 - 2007 when I worked at Magna in Leamington. I lodged with my friends ex wife.
I’m in North Durham these days.
There’s a Gail’s in Leamington now. The march of the mid-tier chain bakery is unstoppable. North Durham next.
There’s a Gail’s in my borough but it’ll never be Lib Dem. We’re in one of the 20% most deprived council areas in the country.
Well we have the new Willow Bakery which has been a roaring success. So it’s not all Greggs and Coopland 👍
Not a humblebrag but when I look online my council ward is not really deprived at all. The town is and around the Avenues, but where we live doesn’t class as deprived.
It seems bizarre, on the face of it, wealthy London where properties in Lewisham would go for far more than round here. As I was discussing with someone the other day about flats in West Ham, my house would go for,half the,price of a 1 bed there and I have a 3 bed detached in a quiet cul de sac next to,the woods.
Yes, London prices are something else. We live in a tourist hotspot, popular enough to have a few film stars buying holiday homes, but we wouldn't get much in London for our house here.
What's notable looking at the listings is that they mostly lead with photos of the fancy interiors, rather than a traditional exterior shot, because the exteriors look mostly the same as much cheaper properties elsewhere, but the interiors more closely match the prices being asked for.
Southwold where we have our holiday home is pretty much London prices and full of luvvies. Once upon a time if a house came on the market it was snapped up usually at a premium. However over the last year or so houses haven't been selling and even dropping in price, more than elsewhere. Not sure if it is the doubling of the council tax on holiday homes, Sizewell C works or the work to land electricity cables and the units they have to build from offshore wind turbines. Something is up though.
The neighbours, and middle aged men in antisocial sports cars?
The weather looks good for National Road Test and Tune Day tomorrow so I hop kjh is out banging limiter (which in in a Rover V8 is about 4,500rpm where the pushrods start bending and it becomes asthmatic).
I'll be out exercising the E63 all the way to its operatic 7,700rpm red line.
I'm fairly sure my Tiv did about 5300. But it hit the limiter hard and you really had to change up before then.
I hope a 4L Rover V8 can do more than that cos mine has frequently (I mean a lot) and still seems ok (fingers crossed).
It'll do it and probably won't blow up, it just won't be making much more power than it did at lower rpm due to valve float and the limitations of the 50s head design. RV8s are actually pretty sturdy (Buick always intended them to use forced induction so the NA ones are understressed) but you've got to keep on top of the oil changes (I'd do it every 3,000 miles) and don't let it run too cool (or too hot LOL). Check your oil, check your temps and it'll probably outlive you.
I'm only likely to 1000 miles per year and will change it every year. I do keep an eye on it anyway as it leaks like a sieve. What do you mean by letting it run too cool? Sorry I'm not a techie. And yes it does get hot and yes I do keep an eye on that. Definitely doesn't like traffic jams. First time I have had a keen eye on temperature and pressure dials.
You want it between 80 and 90. Too hot and it'll probably blow a head gasket or a hose, too cold and it tars up, particularly the cam. If it has a stock thermostat, it'll be an 88. If consistently runs above 90 you want to replace the thermostat immediately, maybe with an 84. If it runs below 80 then replace it with a 90+. This is very easy to do on that engine. I imagine it'll tend to run hot rather than cool in the Cobra.
Assuming my gauge is accurate, which is a big ask, it runs at 90 most of the time. It will then sometimes increase to about 120 and then drop back down as soon as it peaks back to 90. The cable to my fan dropped off. It has been put back on but I don't now know whether it is sucking or blowing. As it is the engine side of the radiator I need it to suck. I will check that when it is warmer. But regardless the gauge behaviour has been consistent before this slight mishap.
You really don't want to run it cool. They piss petrol up against the wall anyway
Actually I've checked, my 4.5 went to about 6,300 but there was no more power for the last 1000 or so. Sounded nice though. The most pleasure was driving through a tunnel and rolling off the grass in third (and not thinking about how much was being burnt in the exhaust)
Clare Melford and Imran Ahmed - fairly serious people.
No, self appointed watchdogs. No official standing, who appoints them and how do they decide what is and isn’t problematic. Just another pressure group or two and not effective simply partisan left of centre lobbyists
Just look at how the GDIH managed to block advertisers going to Unherd.
Fuck both groups. They’re all about a narrative they support.
So? They’re a pressure group. They’re allowed to voice an opinion like any other group or person, aren’t they? Not according to Trump’s administration, which only allows certain thinking, even among people in other countries.
They are allowed to voice an opinion but they do more than that. They target the businesses and their income stream by targetting advertisers. Often based on a disdain for the owner. They are unelected, politically partisan, and have an agenda.
They deserve what’s coming.
MAGA is in favour of deporting people for "antisemitism" so their adherence to free speech is selective to say the least
Ventured into rural Middlesex yesterday, and all I got was this picture of Colindale's brand new station building, opened on Monday:
Gaily into Ruislip Gardens Runs the red electric train, With a thousand Ta's and Pardon's Daintily alights Elaine; Hurries down the concrete station With a frown of concentration, Out into the outskirt's edges Where a few surviving hedges Keep alive our lost Elysium - rural Middlesex again.
I wonder if the courts will also start taking a dim view of trans activists using them to enact petty vendettas against people who don’t share their worldview too ?
"petty vendettas against people who don’t share their worldview"
...There’s a world of difference between using lawfare against gender critical individuals, such as happens to people like Maya Forstater and others and actually challenging public bodies to act within the law...
Point 1: Lawfare in the UK is the province of who has the most money. Of the two sides, who do you think has more?
Point 2: Even FWS vs Scottish Ministers acknowledged that trans people have rights. The existence of trans people as trans people is not currently debated (at least openly: sotto voce it is deafening) so the expression of Pride in their existence is not technically a partisan point.
Help with fees is a great leveller.
No one is saying trans people don’t have rights.
If trans people have rights (including their existence as trans people) then there is no partiality in attending Pride marches to express pride in those rights, and Prof Stock's intervention fails.
I wonder if the courts will also start taking a dim view of trans activists using them to enact petty vendettas against people who don’t share their worldview too ?
"petty vendettas against people who don’t share their worldview"
...There’s a world of difference between using lawfare against gender critical individuals, such as happens to people like Maya Forstater and others and actually challenging public bodies to act within the law...
Point 1: Lawfare in the UK is the province of who has the most money. Of the two sides, who do you think has more?
Point 2: Even FWS vs Scottish Ministers acknowledged that trans people have rights. The existence of trans people as trans people is not currently debated (at least openly: sotto voce it is deafening) so the expression of Pride in their existence is not technically a partisan point.
Help with fees is a great leveller.
No one is saying trans people don’t have rights.
If trans people have rights (including their existence as trans people) then there is no partiality in attending Pride marches to express pride in those rights, and Prof Stock's intervention fails.
My abiding memory of seeing that is thinking, like when I saw an interview with Shawn Michaels and he’s chomping on a gobstopper, is what an ignorant POS eating and talking at the same time.
I wonder if the courts will also start taking a dim view of trans activists using them to enact petty vendettas against people who don’t share their worldview too ?
"petty vendettas against people who don’t share their worldview"
I look forward to your impartial article on the issue.
There’s a world of difference between using lawfare against gender critical individuals, such as happens to people like Maya Forstater and others and actually challenging public bodies to act within the law.
I’m sure your completely impartial piece will reflect that and not your pro trans sentiment.
I look forward to your putting an equivalent effort to researching anything you have to say here.
I wonder if the courts will also start taking a dim view of trans activists using them to enact petty vendettas against people who don’t share their worldview too ?
"petty vendettas against people who don’t share their worldview"
I look forward to your impartial article on the issue....I’m sure your completely impartial piece will reflect that and not your pro trans sentiment.
That's a fair point. Impartiality can be aspired to but it is difficult to remove the self from the article, whatever the article subject and whoever the self.
However I have sought (and am continuing) to do achieve some kind of objectivity by adopting NPOV, providing references, removing the jokes, and seeking comment from discussants, two from the pro-trans side, two from the gender-critical side. For the discussants I sought GC discussant testimony to the point where I nagged DavidL more than once to provide it and - following his opt-out - I will seek another (probably @fitalass) to fill the gap. If that does not reassure you you can ask DavidL, who has read it.
I don't know if there will be pre-readers on this one. It's been months now and I have time limits: James Baldwin IIRC could write beautiful prose overnight ready for publication but I am thumb-fisted and write slowly. But if there are you will be invited and can raise concerns like every other pre-reader. When it is published you can point out any errors/biases you see and discuss them in the comments.
I really appreciate those creating headers for PB. For the food for the thought they provide, for the considerable time it takes to put the piece together, and for a certain bravery in publishing it. Suppose you get a fact wrong? It's so much easier to fire off half arsed opinion below the line.
My advice, for what's it's worth, is just put your piece out there. I'm sure it will generate interesting debate, which ultimately is the purpose.
Happy Christmas.
I look forward to reading the piece but forsee debating Trans on PB will closely resemble debating racial equality at a Ku Klux Klan rally.
Peace on Earth and Goodwill to all men, women, and to the gender misaligned.
I wonder if the courts will also start taking a dim view of trans activists using them to enact petty vendettas against people who don’t share their worldview too ?
"petty vendettas against people who don’t share their worldview"
I look forward to your impartial article on the issue.
There’s a world of difference between using lawfare against gender critical individuals, such as happens to people like Maya Forstater and others and actually challenging public bodies to act within the law.
I’m sure your completely impartial piece will reflect that and not your pro trans sentiment.
I look forward to your putting an equivalent effort to researching anything you have to say here.
Ventured into rural Middlesex yesterday, and all I got was this picture of Colindale's brand new station building, opened on Monday:
Bugger me, no wonder it's been such a pain to get to the RAF Museum if they've been replacing the manky old concrete station-cum-shopping centre with that. Is that a moulded-laminated timber shell?
First on the Underground network, but there's also one at Abbey Wood on the Lizzie Line.
Another poll showing a rise for the Conservatives.
MIC has Reform 28%, Conservatives 22%, Labour 21%.
The tragedy is they will both cockblock each other so Labour wins again.
Depends where the Tory recovery is. If it’s in seats where LDs are the opposition they may free parliament from these largely earnest buffoons.
The Tory recovery would need to take them over their 2024 vote share, and counteract some consolidated tactical voting, to stand a chance of removing those stout patriotic Trump-trolling yeomen of merrie Gales Bakery England.
I wonder how consolidated the tactical voting is/was. Clearly there was the feeling we had all had enough of the Tories in 2024. Will that really be the case in 2028 or 2029.
I’m unsure it will be but then the nearest Gail’s to me is in a different timezone and I know little of these areas you call ‘middle class’
I thought you lived in Kenilworth?
Many years ago. About 2005 - 2007 when I worked at Magna in Leamington. I lodged with my friends ex wife.
I’m in North Durham these days.
There’s a Gail’s in Leamington now. The march of the mid-tier chain bakery is unstoppable. North Durham next.
There’s a Gail’s in my borough but it’ll never be Lib Dem. We’re in one of the 20% most deprived council areas in the country.
Well we have the new Willow Bakery which has been a roaring success. So it’s not all Greggs and Coopland 👍
Not a humblebrag but when I look online my council ward is not really deprived at all. The town is and around the Avenues, but where we live doesn’t class as deprived.
It seems bizarre, on the face of it, wealthy London where properties in Lewisham would go for far more than round here. As I was discussing with someone the other day about flats in West Ham, my house would go for,half the,price of a 1 bed there and I have a 3 bed detached in a quiet cul de sac next to,the woods.
Yes, London prices are something else. We live in a tourist hotspot, popular enough to have a few film stars buying holiday homes, but we wouldn't get much in London for our house here.
What's notable looking at the listings is that they mostly lead with photos of the fancy interiors, rather than a traditional exterior shot, because the exteriors look mostly the same as much cheaper properties elsewhere, but the interiors more closely match the prices being asked for.
Southwold where we have our holiday home is pretty much London prices and full of luvvies. Once upon a time if a house came on the market it was snapped up usually at a premium. However over the last year or so houses haven't been selling and even dropping in price, more than elsewhere. Not sure if it is the doubling of the council tax on holiday homes, Sizewell C works or the work to land electricity cables and the units they have to build from offshore wind turbines. Something is up though.
The neighbours, and middle aged men in antisocial sports cars?
The weather looks good for National Road Test and Tune Day tomorrow so I hop kjh is out banging limiter (which in in a Rover V8 is about 4,500rpm where the pushrods start bending and it becomes asthmatic).
I'll be out exercising the E63 all the way to its operatic 7,700rpm red line.
I'm fairly sure my Tiv did about 5300. But it hit the limiter hard and you really had to change up before then.
I hope a 4L Rover V8 can do more than that cos mine has frequently (I mean a lot) and still seems ok (fingers crossed).
It'll do it and probably won't blow up, it just won't be making much more power than it did at lower rpm due to valve float and the limitations of the 50s head design. RV8s are actually pretty sturdy (Buick always intended them to use forced induction so the NA ones are understressed) but you've got to keep on top of the oil changes (I'd do it every 3,000 miles) and don't let it run too cool (or too hot LOL). Check your oil, check your temps and it'll probably outlive you.
I'm only likely to 1000 miles per year and will change it every year. I do keep an eye on it anyway as it leaks like a sieve. What do you mean by letting it run too cool? Sorry I'm not a techie. And yes it does get hot and yes I do keep an eye on that. Definitely doesn't like traffic jams. First time I have had a keen eye on temperature and pressure dials.
You want it between 80 and 90. Too hot and it'll probably blow a head gasket or a hose, too cold and it tars up, particularly the cam. If it has a stock thermostat, it'll be an 88. If consistently runs above 90 you want to replace the thermostat immediately, maybe with an 84. If it runs below 80 then replace it with a 90+. This is very easy to do on that engine. I imagine it'll tend to run hot rather than cool in the Cobra.
Assuming my gauge is accurate, which is a big ask, it runs at 90 most of the time. It will then sometimes increase to about 120 and then drop back down as soon as it peaks back to 90. The cable to my fan dropped off. It has been put back on but I don't now know whether it is sucking or blowing. As it is the engine side of the radiator I need it to suck. I will check that when it is warmer. But regardless the gauge behaviour has been consistent before this slight mishap.
Temp gun on the thermostat or one of the hoses is the move.
In news of a very good Reform signing, this is a very interesting, sometimes sparky interview of Rear Admiral Dr David Parry with David Starkey (on somewhat tetchy form).
Calmly devastating on the current state of our military, but with sensible solutions. Let's hope Reform listens to him (they have him running as one of the cancelled Mayors just now - he would be a far better defence spokesman), and he is eventually made Defence Sec.
You think Reform signing up a racist and misogynist is good?
Care to explain?
Really? You need me to explain? He was discussed on here just a few days ago regarding his views and his posts to the internet, and interviews, etc. I mean a quick search on the internet and you can get a bucket full of it.
I tend to think if you're prepared to make bold accusations you should be able to stand them up briefly and cogently. I'm not sure why I would be expected to scour the internet for evidence.
Dunno, one might tend t think anyone boldly proposing someone as a defense spokesman and potential Defense* Sec would have done some minimal research on that person.
*Spelled that way for annoyance.
I provided a long-form interview including real examples of successful projects within the MOD to back up my claim that this man would make a good Defence Secretary. So far, neither KJH or yourself has provided anything that would indicate that his claims are anything other than ignorant weak-minded bilge.
Do you agree with Admiral Pugwash that British born Muslims are insufficiently loyal to the UK? If so what do you think should happen to them?
A From Balmoral nearly made it to the top of the naughty list.
Poor Archie...,.. all he had to do was find a grouse!
A from Balmoral sounds a distinctly unpheasant character.
In olden times, his brother officers would have would have left him in a locked room, with a bottle of brandy, and a revolver with a single bullet in it.
Andrew should have and will have no further role in public life but apart from being an idiot associating with Epstein and young women is there any evidence he did anything illegal? Even Giuffre was 17 not underage in the UK.
If Andrew had any sense he would quietly do volunteering work for homeless charities and food banks for the poor in Norfolk, be grateful he still has a home and spend time with his daughters and grandchildren. His ego though is too big for that
The age of consent for prostitution is 18 in New York State, and Giuffre was trafficked.
If he were innocent, he would not have made a huge payout.
We don't know that. Remember Andrew was being advised by whatever idiot thought the Newsnight interview would clear his name.
The idiot was he, himself. Everyone else thought it was a daft idea.
The payout was a settlement to try and make it go away during the Queen’s Jubilee year
A From Balmoral nearly made it to the top of the naughty list.
Poor Archie...,.. all he had to do was find a grouse!
A from Balmoral sounds a distinctly unpheasant character.
In olden times, his brother officers would have would have left him in a locked room, with a bottle of brandy, and a revolver with a single bullet in it.
Not that A's self preserving vanity would allow it but even that avenue has been limited.
It could be anything from are they stored appropriately to is he a potential suicide risk at this particular time. They have huge discretion, including aiui a legal duty of care to the individual.
He can Appeal, but it's a hearing in the Crown Court - which would be tabloid fodder.
I'm not sure if loss of a license for Windsor has any impact if he also has one for Norfolk, or if he needs another one for another location.
You only have one licence, but it does say where the guns are stored. If anything it could be a technicality that there hasn’t been an inspection of the new location
I wonder if the courts will also start taking a dim view of trans activists using them to enact petty vendettas against people who don’t share their worldview too ?
"petty vendettas against people who don’t share their worldview"
...There’s a world of difference between using lawfare against gender critical individuals, such as happens to people like Maya Forstater and others and actually challenging public bodies to act within the law...
Point 1: Lawfare in the UK is the province of who has the most money. Of the two sides, who do you think has more?
Point 2: Even FWS vs Scottish Ministers acknowledged that trans people have rights. The existence of trans people as trans people is not currently debated (at least openly: sotto voce it is deafening) so the expression of Pride in their existence is not technically a partisan point.
Help with fees is a great leveller.
No one is saying trans people don’t have rights. They do. I don’t get these ‘trans rights now’ lot. They have rights.
they want their rights to ride roughshod over everybody else's rights
I firmly condemn the United States decision to impose travel restrictions on five European individuals including former European Commissioner Thierry Breton
How long and how many crises will it take for the United States to understand that, by attacking the European Union instead of supporting it, they are discouraging their best friends and allies and weakening themselves?
France and the European Commission cannot stop at words. Time to act !
A From Balmoral nearly made it to the top of the naughty list.
Poor Archie...,.. all he had to do was find a grouse!
A from Balmoral sounds a distinctly unpheasant character.
In olden times, his brother officers would have would have left him in a locked room, with a bottle of brandy, and a revolver with a single bullet in it.
Andrew should have and will have no further role in public life but apart from being an idiot associating with Epstein and young women is there any evidence he did anything illegal? Even Giuffre was 17 not underage in the UK.
If Andrew had any sense he would quietly do volunteering work for homeless charities and food banks for the poor in Norfolk, be grateful he still has a home and spend time with his daughters and grandchildren. His ego though is too big for that
The age of consent for prostitution is 18 in New York State, and Giuffre was trafficked.
If he were innocent, he would not have made a huge payout.
Yes but it was Epstein and Maxwell convicted of doing the trafficking not Andrew.
A civil settlement was reached but Andrew was not charged or convicted of any criminal offence
I doubt if he paid out £12 m as a gesture of goodwill. He paid, because on the balance of probabilities, he would have been found guilty.
Nah. It was a shakedown and his Mum wanted it to go away
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https://www.thenational.scot/news/25714984.reform-candidate-expelled-racist-attack/
I’m delight the US is sanctioning this pair. Hopefully they will apply a squeeze to them like they have with others,
(hoof beats get louder until there is a screeching stop)
1. Oh, yes it is.
(or possibly not. I don't know if I'm agreeing with you or not. Your reply, although admirably brief, was unclear)
My advice, for what's it's worth, is just put your piece out there. I'm sure it will generate interesting debate, which ultimately is the purpose.
Happy Christmas.
Santa: y'know how long it takes to make a list of every child in the world? And y'know what I do when I finish the list?
Jake Humphrey: *nodding* deliver the presents
Santa: *shaking his head* check it twice mate
Jake: *grinning* fucking hell
https://x.com/sayers33/status/1736527836314251557?s=46&t=CW4pL-mMpTqsJXCdjW0Z6Q
Christmas cheer to all on PB and especially to @TSE and @rcs1000 for keeping the show on the road.
Merry Xmas everyone!!
Get some lessons in how to pull away from the lights.
The US needs friends to be the so-called leader of the free world, and those friends should not include a Russia which is on the edge of ruin.
The unelected, partisan, left of centre organisations targetted try to deprive legitimate businesses of even having lunch money.
They deserve what’s coming.
Doesn’t bother me initially but when it starts informing their conduct it becomes an issue. As happened with the Newcaslte fan barred from the football for,her opinions and it was the local Police that helped that process along.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cd975y39ek8o
Journalist Matt Kennard
MP Gavin Barwell
Minister Wes Streeting
PM Keir Starmer
That would suggest that questioning peoples' loyalty to the UK is something of an all-purpose pre-occupation.
I don't know if such interventions are wise, and I don't have a window into Dr Parry's soul, but I do know that I want (and we need) a Defence Secretary to put in place a strategy to make us safe from attack, before any other consideration. I would prefer that to be someone guided by no other passions and prejudices than a desire to do the job well, but for the time being I will take Dr Parry in the absence of another serious candidate.
Actually I've checked, my 4.5 went to about 6,300 but there was no more power for the last 1000 or so. Sounded nice though. The most pleasure was driving through a tunnel and rolling off the grass in third (and not thinking about how much was being burnt in the exhaust)
Runs the red electric train,
With a thousand Ta's and Pardon's
Daintily alights Elaine;
Hurries down the concrete station
With a frown of concentration,
Out into the outskirt's edges
Where a few surviving hedges
Keep alive our lost Elysium - rural Middlesex again.
NEW THREAD
The Michaels one was worse.
Peace on Earth and Goodwill to all men, women, and to the gender misaligned.
Quite a rum way treat allies.
The payout was a settlement to try and make it go away during the Queen’s Jubilee year
https://x.com/MichelBarnier/status/2003869473221366076
I firmly condemn the United States decision to impose travel restrictions on five European individuals including former European Commissioner Thierry Breton
How long and how many crises will it take for the United States to understand that, by attacking the European Union instead of supporting it, they are discouraging their best friends and allies and weakening themselves?
France and the European Commission cannot stop at words. Time to act !