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Some good news for Badenoch but will it move the polls? – politicalbetting.com

63% of Britons support abolishing stamp duty on the purchase of main homes, as Kemi Badenoch pledged yesterdayOnly 13% are opposedyougov.co.uk/topics/polit…

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  • StuartinromfordStuartinromford Posts: 20,168
    DavidL said:

    First?

    Well, that's a good start to the day. People in favour of abolishing tax shock.

    It does help explain how we ended up in our current collective state.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 81,957
    Unless the question is presented alongside the alternative and necessary tax increases that would have to accompany it, the poll is meaningless.
  • eekeek Posts: 31,485
    edited October 10
    Why would a plan from a party nowhere close to power impact an election at a different level of Government?

    Local Government elections are about roads and similar - mind you I don't think many people vote on social care and that's really all a council has money for nowadays.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 56,555

    DavidL said:

    First?

    Well, that's a good start to the day. People in favour of abolishing tax shock.

    It does help explain how we ended up in our current collective state.
    Yep, clear, consistent, majorities for cutting taxes and increasing spending. I think its called the wisdom of crowds or something.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 81,957
    With the Trump administration, it's always about the grift.

    So the Argentine bailout wasn’t for Argentina as much as it was for a hedge fund friend of Scott Bessent.

    Rob Citrone a billionaire hedge fund guy who owns Discovery Capital, purchased Argentine debt and equity in numerous companies closely tied to the country’s overall economy.

    He made a bet that the economic policies would revitalize the economy. He was wrong and stood to lose his ass. This was nothing more than Crony Capitalism at the tax payers expense.

    https://x.com/PrezLives2022/status/1976326675638960305
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 53,533
    edited October 10
    Abolishing VAT and income tax would poll well too!
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 57,420
    Is there any tax that polling would say shouldn’t be abolished?

    At least there’s good evidence for SDLT being a terrible tax for the amount of money it raises.
  • StuartinromfordStuartinromford Posts: 20,168
    Nigelb said:

    Unless the question is presented alongside the alternative and necessary tax increases that would have to accompany it, the poll is meaningless.

    Get with the programme, Daddyo.

    Taxes aren't a necessary evil to pay for things that we would hate to have to pay for individually. They are a cruel imposition because the government hates us. Every Friday afternoon, Rachel Reeves takes all the tax paid that week home in a Tesco bag for life (a new one every week, mind) and hides it under her bed.
  • StuartinromfordStuartinromford Posts: 20,168
    eek said:

    Why would a plan from a party nowhere close to power impact an election at a different level of Government?

    Local Government elections are about roads and similar - mind you I don't think many people vote on social care and that's really all a council has money for nowadays.

    They should be, but very few people vote that way.
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 45,842
    edited October 10
    eek said:

    Why would a plan from a party nowhere close to power impact an election at a different level of Government?

    Local Government elections are about roads and similar - mind you I don't think many people vote on social care and that's really all a council has money for nowadays.

    As\ for the devolved administrations, I notice the failure to include SNP, PC, SF and the UUs in the polling. Sure, small and statistically insignificant samples, one presumes - but your first point applies, in reverse: they are far more likely to have to administer stamp duty or its replacement than the Tories are (barring some unexpected coalition). Which is part of its interest for the political observer.
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 23,584
    "We raise £10 billion a year through Stamp Duty to fund the NHS,.
    Let's give it to wealthy homeowners instead."

    As others have said, unless you say which taxes will rise or which services cut to fund the abolition, the question is pointless.
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 45,842
    Sandpit said:

    Is there any tax that polling would say shouldn’t be abolished?

    At least there’s good evidence for SDLT being a terrible tax for the amount of money it raises.

    Licences (well, 'certificates of exemption') for XL bullies.
  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 16,488
    Perhaps the word “news” could be inserted after “good” in the title?
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 35,032
    Nigelb said:

    With the Trump administration, it's always about the grift.

    So the Argentine bailout wasn’t for Argentina as much as it was for a hedge fund friend of Scott Bessent.

    Rob Citrone a billionaire hedge fund guy who owns Discovery Capital, purchased Argentine debt and equity in numerous companies closely tied to the country’s overall economy.

    He made a bet that the economic policies would revitalize the economy. He was wrong and stood to lose his ass. This was nothing more than Crony Capitalism at the tax payers expense.

    https://x.com/PrezLives2022/status/1976326675638960305

    It is also about the revenge.

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/letitia-james-criminal-charges-trump-b2842780.html
  • malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 45,087
    FPT
    rcs1000 said:

    » show previous quotes
    You know, I went to a lot of trouble with that comment.

    Philistines.

    Moral is don't buy cheap towels
  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 16,488

    Nigelb said:

    With the Trump administration, it's always about the grift.

    So the Argentine bailout wasn’t for Argentina as much as it was for a hedge fund friend of Scott Bessent.

    Rob Citrone a billionaire hedge fund guy who owns Discovery Capital, purchased Argentine debt and equity in numerous companies closely tied to the country’s overall economy.

    He made a bet that the economic policies would revitalize the economy. He was wrong and stood to lose his ass. This was nothing more than Crony Capitalism at the tax payers expense.

    https://x.com/PrezLives2022/status/1976326675638960305

    It is also about the revenge.

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/letitia-james-criminal-charges-trump-b2842780.html
    Trumped up charges being brought against political enemies… what number on the list of Signs of Fascism is that?
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 81,957

    Nigelb said:

    With the Trump administration, it's always about the grift.

    So the Argentine bailout wasn’t for Argentina as much as it was for a hedge fund friend of Scott Bessent.

    Rob Citrone a billionaire hedge fund guy who owns Discovery Capital, purchased Argentine debt and equity in numerous companies closely tied to the country’s overall economy.

    He made a bet that the economic policies would revitalize the economy. He was wrong and stood to lose his ass. This was nothing more than Crony Capitalism at the tax payers expense.

    https://x.com/PrezLives2022/status/1976326675638960305

    It is also about the revenge.

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/letitia-james-criminal-charges-trump-b2842780.html
    The one thing is corruption; the other is fascism.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 56,555
    Nigelb said:

    With the Trump administration, it's always about the grift.

    So the Argentine bailout wasn’t for Argentina as much as it was for a hedge fund friend of Scott Bessent.

    Rob Citrone a billionaire hedge fund guy who owns Discovery Capital, purchased Argentine debt and equity in numerous companies closely tied to the country’s overall economy.

    He made a bet that the economic policies would revitalize the economy. He was wrong and stood to lose his ass. This was nothing more than Crony Capitalism at the tax payers expense.

    https://x.com/PrezLives2022/status/1976326675638960305

    Well, that was lucky wasn't it? I mean, its not as if anyone might have hinted at the direction of travel to Citrone before he bought his discounted debt. That would be improper.
  • eekeek Posts: 31,485
    edited October 10
    If we are talking about tax I noticed a Facebook post saying the VAT threshold is being reduced to tie in with making tax digital.

    If that is the case can I point out it’s something I’ve been saying was going to happen for ages - as the previous excuse was excess admin and the admin is now unavoidable
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 45,842
    malcolmg said:

    FPT
    rcs1000 said:

    » show previous quotes
    You know, I went to a lot of trouble with that comment.

    Philistines.

    Moral is don't buy cheap towels

    Morning, Malky, how's the weather? Sunny over in the east. Skeins of geese overhead, the dippers have moved down from the hills into the burn behind the supermarket, and the rowans, cotoneasters, roses, and hawthorns in the garden red with berries. Winter coming.
  • EabhalEabhal Posts: 12,166
    edited October 10
    Some interesting comments on social media bubbles FPT. I'm aware that I'm in one with a number of friends who are deeply concerned and traumatised by what is happening in Gaza, and so I am exposed to videos that other PBers are not.

    Goes someway to explaining the different attitudes that people have. I'd suggest my bubble is much larger given the polling in Israel/Palestine.

    For betting purposes - the Greens have a very high profile at the moment in my cohort and are generating some momentum.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 56,555
    Nigelb said:

    Nigelb said:

    With the Trump administration, it's always about the grift.

    So the Argentine bailout wasn’t for Argentina as much as it was for a hedge fund friend of Scott Bessent.

    Rob Citrone a billionaire hedge fund guy who owns Discovery Capital, purchased Argentine debt and equity in numerous companies closely tied to the country’s overall economy.

    He made a bet that the economic policies would revitalize the economy. He was wrong and stood to lose his ass. This was nothing more than Crony Capitalism at the tax payers expense.

    https://x.com/PrezLives2022/status/1976326675638960305

    It is also about the revenge.

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/letitia-james-criminal-charges-trump-b2842780.html
    The one thing is corruption; the other is fascism.
    This is completely unfair. Trump having someone prosecuted for bank fraud shows the man has an excellent sense of humour, nothing more.
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 45,842
    Eabhal said:

    Some interesting comments on social media bubbles FPT. I'm aware that I'm in one with a number of friends who are deeply concerned and traumatised by what is happening in Gaza, and so I am exposed to videos that other PBers are not.

    Goes someway to explaining the different attitudes that people have. I'd suggest my bubble is much larger given the polling in Israel/Palestine.

    The PoW rather sounds as if the penny has finally dropped now she's a mother with growing children.
  • MattWMattW Posts: 30,263
    Good morning PB.

    Important news: The Gentrification of Penge:

    An influx of independent coffee shops, cycle clubs and art galleries has changed the face of Penge for good.

    Long-time residents were stunned at the start of the year when it was voted one of the top 11 coolest postcodes in Britain.
    ...
    Nothing screams the new Penge more than a series of street artwork next to a McDonald's in the town centre.
    ...
    'It's not posh, never has been posh, so why try and make it posh?

    'They're trying to make it look like Brixton - and that is not a good thing.

    http://bit.ly/42BZxua (incoming Daily Mail)
  • EabhalEabhal Posts: 12,166
    edited October 10
    Interesting polling. The tax cuts for millionaires thing hasn't cut through (even though that is kinda true*).

    I wonder if it's the IHT effect? People are unrealistically optimistic and think they are likely to pay these taxes even though very few of us do.

    *I personally think the policy is an excellent one from economic/housing market perspective, though the first order effect is highly regressive
  • Perhaps the word “news” could be inserted after “good” in the title?

    Well done for spotting my deliberate mistake.
  • StuartinromfordStuartinromford Posts: 20,168
    Nigelb said:

    Nigelb said:

    With the Trump administration, it's always about the grift.

    So the Argentine bailout wasn’t for Argentina as much as it was for a hedge fund friend of Scott Bessent.

    Rob Citrone a billionaire hedge fund guy who owns Discovery Capital, purchased Argentine debt and equity in numerous companies closely tied to the country’s overall economy.

    He made a bet that the economic policies would revitalize the economy. He was wrong and stood to lose his ass. This was nothing more than Crony Capitalism at the tax payers expense.

    https://x.com/PrezLives2022/status/1976326675638960305

    It is also about the revenge.

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/letitia-james-criminal-charges-trump-b2842780.html
    The one thing is corruption; the other is fascism.
    The two are often symbiotic.
  • algarkirkalgarkirk Posts: 15,628
    Nigelb said:

    Unless the question is presented alongside the alternative and necessary tax increases that would have to accompany it, the poll is meaningless.

    Yes. State managed expenditure is about £44000 per household. This is found by taxation and impositions of every sort, fees etc, and 'stealing from our grandhildren' - (Kemi's description of what a future Tory government intends to carry on doing.) Individual bits and pieces are small parts of a large jigsaw.

    For polling to be interesting it needs to ask public opinion on the big picture, the big taxes, and the big expenditures.

    People will always want to reduce or abolish any individual tax which may apply to them. The result is uninteresting.

    Stamp duty is indeed a terrible tax, though it has the merit of being reasonably progressive, unlike the abomination of regressive council taxes.

    Most people are unaffected by IHT, and for the majority of people the impact of property stamp duty is small.
  • DopermeanDopermean Posts: 1,709
    MattW said:

    Good morning PB.

    Important news: The Gentrification of Penge:

    An influx of independent coffee shops, cycle clubs and art galleries has changed the face of Penge for good.

    Long-time residents were stunned at the start of the year when it was voted one of the top 11 coolest postcodes in Britain.
    ...
    Nothing screams the new Penge more than a series of street artwork next to a McDonald's in the town centre.
    ...
    'It's not posh, never has been posh, so why try and make it posh?

    'They're trying to make it look like Brixton - and that is not a good thing.

    http://bit.ly/42BZxua (incoming Daily Mail)

    Is that a typo? Incoming Daily Mash?
  • DopermeanDopermean Posts: 1,709
    malcolmg said:

    FPT
    rcs1000 said:

    » show previous quotes
    You know, I went to a lot of trouble with that comment.

    Philistines.

    Moral is don't buy cheap towels

    Of course that isn't the actual reason Kate and William's kids don't have smartphones, but she's not allowed to mention that under the agreement that the Murdoch press only harass Harry's family...
  • boulayboulay Posts: 7,589
    edited October 10
    I would really like the media to start going boots in on Farage for why he feels the need to be regularly talking our country down overseas. They need to start hitting him on what business it is of a college in Michigan whether our teachers are Marxists or not.

    They need to frame him as unpatriotic for slagging off the UK in America and making us look bad and asking him if he’s criticising US shootings, ICE etc or just attacking the people of the country he hopes to lead.

    Whatever our problems are, however much you agree with Reform or not, he needs to be monstered for this habit of doing speeches (no doubt well paid speeches) that talk done the UK to the US - it’s lazy and cheap.

    If he wants to lead the UK then he needs to be here talking about what he sees as the problems and solutions.

    Every media interview with him should lead with this until he stops.

  • DougSealDougSeal Posts: 12,947
    Shocked to find taxpayers approve of the abolition of a tax TBH
  • DougSeal said:

    Shocked to find taxpayers approve of the abolition of a tax TBH

    It was either this or a thread on water being wet.
  • CookieCookie Posts: 16,261
    MattW said:

    Good morning PB.

    Important news: The Gentrification of Penge:

    An influx of independent coffee shops, cycle clubs and art galleries has changed the face of Penge for good.

    Long-time residents were stunned at the start of the year when it was voted one of the top 11 coolest postcodes in Britain.
    ...
    Nothing screams the new Penge more than a series of street artwork next to a McDonald's in the town centre.
    ...
    'It's not posh, never has been posh, so why try and make it posh?

    'They're trying to make it look like Brixton - and that is not a good thing.

    http://bit.ly/42BZxua (incoming Daily Mail)

    Lots going on here.
    1) "Penge" is one of the most cherishably ridiculous names for a suburb in the country. Very London. If the opening section to "Sheffield: Sex City" were transposed to London, Penge would definitely feature.
    2) "They" - there seems to be a pervasive inference among the complaining classes that "They" are a lot more coordinated and powerful than is actually the case. Who are "they"? I normally infer the local council. Having worked with councils, I am amused by the idea of them as shadowy and powerful cabals.
    3) London is the only place in the country where people seem to resent the idea of their suburb improving in any way. "Gentrification" is a pejorative term in London in a way that it really isn't in the rest of the country.
    4) Having grown up in the 80s, the idea that anywhere might aspire to be Brixton is interestingly jarring.
  • StuartinromfordStuartinromford Posts: 20,168
    Dopermean said:

    MattW said:

    Good morning PB.

    Important news: The Gentrification of Penge:

    An influx of independent coffee shops, cycle clubs and art galleries has changed the face of Penge for good.

    Long-time residents were stunned at the start of the year when it was voted one of the top 11 coolest postcodes in Britain.
    ...
    Nothing screams the new Penge more than a series of street artwork next to a McDonald's in the town centre.
    ...
    'It's not posh, never has been posh, so why try and make it posh?

    'They're trying to make it look like Brixton - and that is not a good thing.

    http://bit.ly/42BZxua (incoming Daily Mail)

    Is that a typo? Incoming Daily Mash?
    Which bit?

    That Penge is now the frontline between funky London and unfunky not-London?

    Or the settled residents don't like change?
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 56,555
    Eabhal said:

    Interesting polling. The tax cuts for millionaires thing hasn't cut through (even though that is kinda true*).

    I wonder if it's the IHT effect? People are unrealistically optimistic and think they are likely to pay these taxes even though very few of us do.

    *I personally think the policy is an excellent one from economic/housing market perspective, though the first order effect is highly regressive

    This is why the replacement tax source has to be focused on property values across the country rather than locally. Essentially, those who gain the most from the abolition of stamp duty should pay the most in the annual capital charge that replaces it. They still come out ahead because the cost is spread over the time of owning the asset rather than a huge lump sum at the start but they should not be getting a windfall at the cost of the rest of us.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 53,533
    Eabhal said:

    Some interesting comments on social media bubbles FPT. I'm aware that I'm in one with a number of friends who are deeply concerned and traumatised by what is happening in Gaza, and so I am exposed to videos that other PBers are not.

    Goes someway to explaining the different attitudes that people have. I'd suggest my bubble is much larger given the polling in Israel/Palestine.

    For betting purposes - the Greens have a very high profile at the moment in my cohort and are generating some momentum.

    Polanski had a good night on BBCQT.

    A lot of support from the audience too.
  • boulayboulay Posts: 7,589
    Cookie said:

    MattW said:

    Good morning PB.

    Important news: The Gentrification of Penge:

    An influx of independent coffee shops, cycle clubs and art galleries has changed the face of Penge for good.

    Long-time residents were stunned at the start of the year when it was voted one of the top 11 coolest postcodes in Britain.
    ...
    Nothing screams the new Penge more than a series of street artwork next to a McDonald's in the town centre.
    ...
    'It's not posh, never has been posh, so why try and make it posh?

    'They're trying to make it look like Brixton - and that is not a good thing.

    http://bit.ly/42BZxua (incoming Daily Mail)

    Lots going on here.
    1) "Penge" is one of the most cherishably ridiculous names for a suburb in the country. Very London. If the opening section to "Sheffield: Sex City" were transposed to London, Penge would definitely feature.
    2) "They" - there seems to be a pervasive inference among the complaining classes that "They" are a lot more coordinated and powerful than is actually the case. Who are "they"? I normally infer the local council. Having worked with councils, I am amused by the idea of them as shadowy and powerful cabals.
    3) London is the only place in the country where people seem to resent the idea of their suburb improving in any way. "Gentrification" is a pejorative term in London in a way that it really isn't in the rest of the country.
    4) Having grown up in the 80s, the idea that anywhere might aspire to be Brixton is interestingly jarring.
    Penge does sound like a particularly unpleasant itchy and smelly skin complaint caught from close contact with sheep.
  • DougSealDougSeal Posts: 12,947

    Dopermean said:

    MattW said:

    Good morning PB.

    Important news: The Gentrification of Penge:

    An influx of independent coffee shops, cycle clubs and art galleries has changed the face of Penge for good.

    Long-time residents were stunned at the start of the year when it was voted one of the top 11 coolest postcodes in Britain.
    ...
    Nothing screams the new Penge more than a series of street artwork next to a McDonald's in the town centre.
    ...
    'It's not posh, never has been posh, so why try and make it posh?

    'They're trying to make it look like Brixton - and that is not a good thing.

    http://bit.ly/42BZxua (incoming Daily Mail)

    Is that a typo? Incoming Daily Mash?
    Which bit?

    That Penge is now the frontline between funky London and unfunky not-London?

    Or the settled residents don't like change?
    Despite what the song says they don’t want to be taken to Funkytown
  • CookieCookie Posts: 16,261
    Eabhal said:

    Some interesting comments on social media bubbles FPT. I'm aware that I'm in one with a number of friends who are deeply concerned and traumatised by what is happening in Gaza, and so I am exposed to videos that other PBers are not.

    Goes someway to explaining the different attitudes that people have. I'd suggest my bubble is much larger given the polling in Israel/Palestine.

    For betting purposes - the Greens have a very high profile at the moment in my cohort and are generating some momentum.

    Yes, it's interesting (and troubling) what different people's algorithms expose them to.
    The only social media I am on is facebook. Which in terms of politics seems to assume I am a left wing Europhile. I really don't engage apart from to hide things I strongly disagree with, so I can only assume that's how it packages me as a suburban/metropolitan.
    I also get a weirdly large amount of argument about Gary Neville.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 124,226
    edited October 10
    Good, you cannot have any Tom, Dick, or Mary being able to walk in.

    JPMorgan requiring biometric data for staff access to new headquarters

    New York bank is imposing eye and fingerprint scans amid heightened security concerns at corporate offices


    JPMorgan Chase has told staff moving into the US bank’s new multibillion-dollar Manhattan headquarters they must share their biometric data to access the building, overriding a prior plan for voluntary enrolment.

    Employees who have started work at its 270 Park Avenue skyscraper since August have received emails saying biometric access is “required”, according to a communication seen by the Financial Times. This allows people to scan their fingerprints or eye instead of ID badges to get through the lobby security gates.

    JPMorgan declined to comment. The bank’s headquarters, which cost a reported $3bn, will eventually house about 10,000 employees once it is fully open later this year.

    The goal is to make access to the building more secure and convenient. There are exemptions for some employees who can still use their badge to enter the building, though it was not clear who would receive them.

    It comes amid heightened security concerns across corporate offices in New York following a deadly shooting at 345 Park Avenue in July, a few blocks up the street from JPMorgan’s offices.


    https://www.ft.com/content/d5351d3d-d64f-4a90-a3da-d1ef8e8bea66
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 45,484
    boulay said:

    Cookie said:

    MattW said:

    Good morning PB.

    Important news: The Gentrification of Penge:

    An influx of independent coffee shops, cycle clubs and art galleries has changed the face of Penge for good.

    Long-time residents were stunned at the start of the year when it was voted one of the top 11 coolest postcodes in Britain.
    ...
    Nothing screams the new Penge more than a series of street artwork next to a McDonald's in the town centre.
    ...
    'It's not posh, never has been posh, so why try and make it posh?

    'They're trying to make it look like Brixton - and that is not a good thing.

    http://bit.ly/42BZxua (incoming Daily Mail)

    Lots going on here.
    1) "Penge" is one of the most cherishably ridiculous names for a suburb in the country. Very London. If the opening section to "Sheffield: Sex City" were transposed to London, Penge would definitely feature.
    2) "They" - there seems to be a pervasive inference among the complaining classes that "They" are a lot more coordinated and powerful than is actually the case. Who are "they"? I normally infer the local council. Having worked with councils, I am amused by the idea of them as shadowy and powerful cabals.
    3) London is the only place in the country where people seem to resent the idea of their suburb improving in any way. "Gentrification" is a pejorative term in London in a way that it really isn't in the rest of the country.
    4) Having grown up in the 80s, the idea that anywhere might aspire to be Brixton is interestingly jarring.
    Penge does sound like a particularly unpleasant itchy and smelly skin complaint caught from close contact with sheep.
    Sounds like a companion word to minge.
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 45,484
    Cookie said:

    Eabhal said:

    Some interesting comments on social media bubbles FPT. I'm aware that I'm in one with a number of friends who are deeply concerned and traumatised by what is happening in Gaza, and so I am exposed to videos that other PBers are not.

    Goes someway to explaining the different attitudes that people have. I'd suggest my bubble is much larger given the polling in Israel/Palestine.

    For betting purposes - the Greens have a very high profile at the moment in my cohort and are generating some momentum.

    Yes, it's interesting (and troubling) what different people's algorithms expose them to.
    The only social media I am on is facebook. Which in terms of politics seems to assume I am a left wing Europhile. I really don't engage apart from to hide things I strongly disagree with, so I can only assume that's how it packages me as a suburban/metropolitan.
    I also get a weirdly large amount of argument about Gary Neville.
    I feel obliged to point out that you're also on PB which I think is a form of social media.
    Or antisocial.
  • Good morning

    Stamp duty abolition is popular and think tanks welcome the end of the worst of bad taxes

    As far as last night's locals are concerned did we really expect a boost to the conservatives?

    I am not convinced it will move the polls much either, but as a conservative I am pleased Badenoch delivered an excellent speech and laid out a multitude of policies that gives the party something to sell in the media and on the doorstep

    Stamp duty and Gaza dominated the news leaving Starmer struggling to get any coverage over his trip to India

    However, I am not sure that Starmer doesn't have a bigger problem than Badenoch with him losing votes to Reform, Lib Dems and Greens and a choice of moving further to the left and losing to the right or moving right and losing to the left

    I am not sure being in the centre is a benefit at present for any party
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 62,984
    The VAT threshold decreasing is something that's not been mentioned much, this thread excepted, but it's going to piss off a lot of small businesses.

    Cunningly, I won't be affected due to the scheme I use for avoiding for excess income tax*.



    *not earning enough.
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 62,984

    Good, you cannot have any Tom, Dick, or Mary being able to walk in.

    JPMorgan requiring biometric data for staff access to new headquarters

    New York bank is imposing eye and fingerprint scans amid heightened security concerns at corporate offices


    JPMorgan Chase has told staff moving into the US bank’s new multibillion-dollar Manhattan headquarters they must share their biometric data to access the building, overriding a prior plan for voluntary enrolment.

    Employees who have started work at its 270 Park Avenue skyscraper since August have received emails saying biometric access is “required”, according to a communication seen by the Financial Times. This allows people to scan their fingerprints or eye instead of ID badges to get through the lobby security gates.

    JPMorgan declined to comment. The bank’s headquarters, which cost a reported $3bn, will eventually house about 10,000 employees once it is fully open later this year.

    The goal is to make access to the building more secure and convenient. There are exemptions for some employees who can still use their badge to enter the building, though it was not clear who would receive them.

    It comes amid heightened security concerns across corporate offices in New York following a deadly shooting at 345 Park Avenue in July, a few blocks up the street from JPMorgan’s offices.


    https://www.ft.com/content/d5351d3d-d64f-4a90-a3da-d1ef8e8bea66

    Reminds me a little (writ small) of a breathlessly enthusiastic and naively complacent BBC news report some years ago about a European firm (Dutch, I think) that had employees using subcutaneous chips to get into the office.

    Yep, nothing bad could ever come of that sort of thing...
  • DopermeanDopermean Posts: 1,709

    Good, you cannot have any Tom, Dick, or Mary being able to walk in.

    JPMorgan requiring biometric data for staff access to new headquarters

    New York bank is imposing eye and fingerprint scans amid heightened security concerns at corporate offices


    JPMorgan Chase has told staff moving into the US bank’s new multibillion-dollar Manhattan headquarters they must share their biometric data to access the building, overriding a prior plan for voluntary enrolment.

    Employees who have started work at its 270 Park Avenue skyscraper since August have received emails saying biometric access is “required”, according to a communication seen by the Financial Times. This allows people to scan their fingerprints or eye instead of ID badges to get through the lobby security gates.

    JPMorgan declined to comment. The bank’s headquarters, which cost a reported $3bn, will eventually house about 10,000 employees once it is fully open later this year.

    The goal is to make access to the building more secure and convenient. There are exemptions for some employees who can still use their badge to enter the building, though it was not clear who would receive them.

    It comes amid heightened security concerns across corporate offices in New York following a deadly shooting at 345 Park Avenue in July, a few blocks up the street from JPMorgan’s offices.


    https://www.ft.com/content/d5351d3d-d64f-4a90-a3da-d1ef8e8bea66

    I've been to a fabrication facility where access was by fingerprint, most amazing thing was the lack of riots at home time as the queues backed up.
  • algarkirkalgarkirk Posts: 15,628
    Cookie said:

    MattW said:

    Good morning PB.

    Important news: The Gentrification of Penge:

    An influx of independent coffee shops, cycle clubs and art galleries has changed the face of Penge for good.

    Long-time residents were stunned at the start of the year when it was voted one of the top 11 coolest postcodes in Britain.
    ...
    Nothing screams the new Penge more than a series of street artwork next to a McDonald's in the town centre.
    ...
    'It's not posh, never has been posh, so why try and make it posh?

    'They're trying to make it look like Brixton - and that is not a good thing.

    http://bit.ly/42BZxua (incoming Daily Mail)

    Lots going on here.
    1) "Penge" is one of the most cherishably ridiculous names for a suburb in the country. Very London. If the opening section to "Sheffield: Sex City" were transposed to London, Penge would definitely feature.
    2) "They" - there seems to be a pervasive inference among the complaining classes that "They" are a lot more coordinated and powerful than is actually the case. Who are "they"? I normally infer the local council. Having worked with councils, I am amused by the idea of them as shadowy and powerful cabals.
    3) London is the only place in the country where people seem to resent the idea of their suburb improving in any way. "Gentrification" is a pejorative term in London in a way that it really isn't in the rest of the country.
    4) Having grown up in the 80s, the idea that anywhere might aspire to be Brixton is interestingly jarring.
    Railway Cuttings, Penge. Home of Hancock's Half Hour, of blessed memory. His death in 1968 hit the nation hard.

    Thankfully quite a bit of both his radio and TV work survives. Beginners (are there some on PB?) might start with 'The Blood Donor'.
  • Daveyboy1961Daveyboy1961 Posts: 4,922

    Good morning

    Stamp duty abolition is popular and think tanks welcome the end of the worst of bad taxes

    As far as last night's locals are concerned did we really expect a boost to the conservatives?

    I am not convinced it will move the polls much either, but as a conservative I am pleased Badenoch delivered an excellent speech and laid out a multitude of policies that gives the party something to sell in the media and on the doorstep

    Stamp duty and Gaza dominated the news leaving Starmer struggling to get any coverage over his trip to India

    However, I am not sure that Starmer doesn't have a bigger problem than Badenoch with him losing votes to Reform, Lib Dems and Greens and a choice of moving further to the left and losing to the right or moving right and losing to the left

    I am not sure being in the centre is a benefit at present for any party

    Oh, I don't know, I thought the libdems did ok last night?...
  • stodgestodge Posts: 15,417
    Morning all :)

    Well, quite. It again begs the question, given we've had two long periods of Conservative or Conservative-led Government in the last 45 years or so, why Stamp Duty was never abolished by Howe, Lawson, Lamont, Clarke or all the other Conservative Chancellors.

    The conclusion is Stamp Duty must fulfill some form of function, possibly as a regulatory mechanism in the housing market preventing prices rising even more and making the goal of home ownership so beloved by Tories as a souce of future voters even more unachievable or it's been a nice little earner (as Mr Daley would have said) for the Treasury.

    Given first time purchasers are already free of stamp duty up to the value of £300k, Badenoch's plan, from which she cannot now extricate herself, and which only applies to England and Northern Ireland, is clearly aimed further up the property market. The truth is as prices have risen, more have been caught - the majority of purchases would be in the 5% category but once you get to between £925k and £1.5 million it's 10% so the amount of stamp duty payable on a £920k purchase would be £46k and the amount on a £930k purchase would be £93k if I've done it right.

    That brings in an increasing number of property purchases particularly in southern LD held constituencies which I suspect is the prime target for this policy but the stamp duty rate also acts as a barrier on house price inflation.
  • kjhkjh Posts: 13,239

    Good, you cannot have any Tom, Dick, or Mary being able to walk in.

    JPMorgan requiring biometric data for staff access to new headquarters

    New York bank is imposing eye and fingerprint scans amid heightened security concerns at corporate offices


    JPMorgan Chase has told staff moving into the US bank’s new multibillion-dollar Manhattan headquarters they must share their biometric data to access the building, overriding a prior plan for voluntary enrolment.

    Employees who have started work at its 270 Park Avenue skyscraper since August have received emails saying biometric access is “required”, according to a communication seen by the Financial Times. This allows people to scan their fingerprints or eye instead of ID badges to get through the lobby security gates.

    JPMorgan declined to comment. The bank’s headquarters, which cost a reported $3bn, will eventually house about 10,000 employees once it is fully open later this year.

    The goal is to make access to the building more secure and convenient. There are exemptions for some employees who can still use their badge to enter the building, though it was not clear who would receive them.

    It comes amid heightened security concerns across corporate offices in New York following a deadly shooting at 345 Park Avenue in July, a few blocks up the street from JPMorgan’s offices.


    https://www.ft.com/content/d5351d3d-d64f-4a90-a3da-d1ef8e8bea66

    Does that mean you can't get a job at JPMorgan if your name is Tom, Dick or Mary?
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 81,957
    DavidL said:

    Nigelb said:

    Nigelb said:

    With the Trump administration, it's always about the grift.

    So the Argentine bailout wasn’t for Argentina as much as it was for a hedge fund friend of Scott Bessent.

    Rob Citrone a billionaire hedge fund guy who owns Discovery Capital, purchased Argentine debt and equity in numerous companies closely tied to the country’s overall economy.

    He made a bet that the economic policies would revitalize the economy. He was wrong and stood to lose his ass. This was nothing more than Crony Capitalism at the tax payers expense.

    https://x.com/PrezLives2022/status/1976326675638960305

    It is also about the revenge.

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/letitia-james-criminal-charges-trump-b2842780.html
    The one thing is corruption; the other is fascism.
    This is completely unfair. Trump having someone prosecuted for bank fraud shows the man has an excellent sense of humour, nothing more.
    Such pleasing irony isn't entirely unusual in authoritarian regimes of all flavours.
    Fascism is probably the right term here, as the only real underlying ideology is loyalty to the leader.
  • boulayboulay Posts: 7,589

    Good, you cannot have any Tom, Dick, or Mary being able to walk in.

    JPMorgan requiring biometric data for staff access to new headquarters

    New York bank is imposing eye and fingerprint scans amid heightened security concerns at corporate offices


    JPMorgan Chase has told staff moving into the US bank’s new multibillion-dollar Manhattan headquarters they must share their biometric data to access the building, overriding a prior plan for voluntary enrolment.

    Employees who have started work at its 270 Park Avenue skyscraper since August have received emails saying biometric access is “required”, according to a communication seen by the Financial Times. This allows people to scan their fingerprints or eye instead of ID badges to get through the lobby security gates.

    JPMorgan declined to comment. The bank’s headquarters, which cost a reported $3bn, will eventually house about 10,000 employees once it is fully open later this year.

    The goal is to make access to the building more secure and convenient. There are exemptions for some employees who can still use their badge to enter the building, though it was not clear who would receive them.

    It comes amid heightened security concerns across corporate offices in New York following a deadly shooting at 345 Park Avenue in July, a few blocks up the street from JPMorgan’s offices.


    https://www.ft.com/content/d5351d3d-d64f-4a90-a3da-d1ef8e8bea66

    Congratulations to JPM for finally taking on the Lanyard Class. Another milestone in a return to a civilised workplace.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 57,420
    edited October 10

    Good, you cannot have any Tom, Dick, or Mary being able to walk in.

    JPMorgan requiring biometric data for staff access to new headquarters

    New York bank is imposing eye and fingerprint scans amid heightened security concerns at corporate offices


    JPMorgan Chase has told staff moving into the US bank’s new multibillion-dollar Manhattan headquarters they must share their biometric data to access the building, overriding a prior plan for voluntary enrolment.

    Employees who have started work at its 270 Park Avenue skyscraper since August have received emails saying biometric access is “required”, according to a communication seen by the Financial Times. This allows people to scan their fingerprints or eye instead of ID badges to get through the lobby security gates.

    JPMorgan declined to comment. The bank’s headquarters, which cost a reported $3bn, will eventually house about 10,000 employees once it is fully open later this year.

    The goal is to make access to the building more secure and convenient. There are exemptions for some employees who can still use their badge to enter the building, though it was not clear who would receive them.

    It comes amid heightened security concerns across corporate offices in New York following a deadly shooting at 345 Park Avenue in July, a few blocks up the street from JPMorgan’s offices.


    https://www.ft.com/content/d5351d3d-d64f-4a90-a3da-d1ef8e8bea66

    It’s a bit more difficult to bribe or extort someone for their fingers and eyes, than to borrow or copy an ID card.

    For those wondering, these systems don’t actually store fingerprints and eye scans, they store an algorithmic code that represents them when presented to the machine. Same as TouchID and FaceID on your phone.
  • MattWMattW Posts: 30,263
    Dopermean said:

    MattW said:

    Good morning PB.

    Important news: The Gentrification of Penge:

    An influx of independent coffee shops, cycle clubs and art galleries has changed the face of Penge for good.

    Long-time residents were stunned at the start of the year when it was voted one of the top 11 coolest postcodes in Britain.
    ...
    Nothing screams the new Penge more than a series of street artwork next to a McDonald's in the town centre.
    ...
    'It's not posh, never has been posh, so why try and make it posh?

    'They're trying to make it look like Brixton - and that is not a good thing.

    http://bit.ly/42BZxua (incoming Daily Mail)

    Is that a typo? Incoming Daily Mash?
    O love the idea of McDonalds as driving home "poshness".
  • DopermeanDopermean Posts: 1,709
    MattW said:

    Dopermean said:

    MattW said:

    Good morning PB.

    Important news: The Gentrification of Penge:

    An influx of independent coffee shops, cycle clubs and art galleries has changed the face of Penge for good.

    Long-time residents were stunned at the start of the year when it was voted one of the top 11 coolest postcodes in Britain.
    ...
    Nothing screams the new Penge more than a series of street artwork next to a McDonald's in the town centre.
    ...
    'It's not posh, never has been posh, so why try and make it posh?

    'They're trying to make it look like Brixton - and that is not a good thing.

    http://bit.ly/42BZxua (incoming Daily Mail)

    Is that a typo? Incoming Daily Mash?
    O love the idea of McDonalds as driving home "poshness".
    Attempt to remove the artwork gone wrong? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ckg6m10yygvo
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 57,420
    boulay said:

    Good, you cannot have any Tom, Dick, or Mary being able to walk in.

    JPMorgan requiring biometric data for staff access to new headquarters

    New York bank is imposing eye and fingerprint scans amid heightened security concerns at corporate offices


    JPMorgan Chase has told staff moving into the US bank’s new multibillion-dollar Manhattan headquarters they must share their biometric data to access the building, overriding a prior plan for voluntary enrolment.

    Employees who have started work at its 270 Park Avenue skyscraper since August have received emails saying biometric access is “required”, according to a communication seen by the Financial Times. This allows people to scan their fingerprints or eye instead of ID badges to get through the lobby security gates.

    JPMorgan declined to comment. The bank’s headquarters, which cost a reported $3bn, will eventually house about 10,000 employees once it is fully open later this year.

    The goal is to make access to the building more secure and convenient. There are exemptions for some employees who can still use their badge to enter the building, though it was not clear who would receive them.

    It comes amid heightened security concerns across corporate offices in New York following a deadly shooting at 345 Park Avenue in July, a few blocks up the street from JPMorgan’s offices.


    https://www.ft.com/content/d5351d3d-d64f-4a90-a3da-d1ef8e8bea66

    Congratulations to JPM for finally taking on the Lanyard Class. Another milestone in a return to a civilised workplace.
    I’d be amazed if they actually scrapped the ID cards and lanyards, it’s just that the biometrics get you into the lift lobby.
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 33,283
    algarkirk said:

    Cookie said:

    MattW said:

    Good morning PB.

    Important news: The Gentrification of Penge:

    An influx of independent coffee shops, cycle clubs and art galleries has changed the face of Penge for good.

    Long-time residents were stunned at the start of the year when it was voted one of the top 11 coolest postcodes in Britain.
    ...
    Nothing screams the new Penge more than a series of street artwork next to a McDonald's in the town centre.
    ...
    'It's not posh, never has been posh, so why try and make it posh?

    'They're trying to make it look like Brixton - and that is not a good thing.

    http://bit.ly/42BZxua (incoming Daily Mail)

    Lots going on here.
    1) "Penge" is one of the most cherishably ridiculous names for a suburb in the country. Very London. If the opening section to "Sheffield: Sex City" were transposed to London, Penge would definitely feature.
    2) "They" - there seems to be a pervasive inference among the complaining classes that "They" are a lot more coordinated and powerful than is actually the case. Who are "they"? I normally infer the local council. Having worked with councils, I am amused by the idea of them as shadowy and powerful cabals.
    3) London is the only place in the country where people seem to resent the idea of their suburb improving in any way. "Gentrification" is a pejorative term in London in a way that it really isn't in the rest of the country.
    4) Having grown up in the 80s, the idea that anywhere might aspire to be Brixton is interestingly jarring.
    Railway Cuttings, Penge. Home of Hancock's Half Hour, of blessed memory. His death in 1968 hit the nation hard.

    Thankfully quite a bit of both his radio and TV work survives. Beginners (are there some on PB?) might start with 'The Blood Donor'.
    The Penge Bungalow Murders was Rumpole's most important case (at least before John Mortimer made the mistake of writing a story about it).
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 81,957

    Good, you cannot have any Tom, Dick, or Mary being able to walk in.

    JPMorgan requiring biometric data for staff access to new headquarters

    New York bank is imposing eye and fingerprint scans amid heightened security concerns at corporate offices


    JPMorgan Chase has told staff moving into the US bank’s new multibillion-dollar Manhattan headquarters they must share their biometric data to access the building, overriding a prior plan for voluntary enrolment.

    Employees who have started work at its 270 Park Avenue skyscraper since August have received emails saying biometric access is “required”, according to a communication seen by the Financial Times. This allows people to scan their fingerprints or eye instead of ID badges to get through the lobby security gates.

    JPMorgan declined to comment. The bank’s headquarters, which cost a reported $3bn, will eventually house about 10,000 employees once it is fully open later this year.

    The goal is to make access to the building more secure and convenient. There are exemptions for some employees who can still use their badge to enter the building, though it was not clear who would receive them.

    It comes amid heightened security concerns across corporate offices in New York following a deadly shooting at 345 Park Avenue in July, a few blocks up the street from JPMorgan’s offices.


    https://www.ft.com/content/d5351d3d-d64f-4a90-a3da-d1ef8e8bea66

    Charlie Javice just went to jail for seven years for defrauding them of $175m.
    Plus expenses,

    Because of a clause in the M&A docs, JPM has to pick up Charlie Javice’s legal bill for defrauding them. She’s run up $115M in bills. Absolutely incredible.
    https://x.com/yrechtman/status/1976320602043724015
  • Nigelb said:

    Good, you cannot have any Tom, Dick, or Mary being able to walk in.

    JPMorgan requiring biometric data for staff access to new headquarters

    New York bank is imposing eye and fingerprint scans amid heightened security concerns at corporate offices


    JPMorgan Chase has told staff moving into the US bank’s new multibillion-dollar Manhattan headquarters they must share their biometric data to access the building, overriding a prior plan for voluntary enrolment.

    Employees who have started work at its 270 Park Avenue skyscraper since August have received emails saying biometric access is “required”, according to a communication seen by the Financial Times. This allows people to scan their fingerprints or eye instead of ID badges to get through the lobby security gates.

    JPMorgan declined to comment. The bank’s headquarters, which cost a reported $3bn, will eventually house about 10,000 employees once it is fully open later this year.

    The goal is to make access to the building more secure and convenient. There are exemptions for some employees who can still use their badge to enter the building, though it was not clear who would receive them.

    It comes amid heightened security concerns across corporate offices in New York following a deadly shooting at 345 Park Avenue in July, a few blocks up the street from JPMorgan’s offices.


    https://www.ft.com/content/d5351d3d-d64f-4a90-a3da-d1ef8e8bea66

    Charlie Javice just went to jail for seven years for defrauding them of $175m.
    Plus expenses,

    Because of a clause in the M&A docs, JPM has to pick up Charlie Javice’s legal bill for defrauding them. She’s run up $115M in bills. Absolutely incredible.
    https://x.com/yrechtman/status/1976320602043724015
    $115 million for lawyers is an utter bargain.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 81,957

    DougSeal said:

    Shocked to find taxpayers approve of the abolition of a tax TBH

    It was either this or a thread on water being wet.
    Didn't Trump recently expound on his discovery of that novel idea ?
  • Sandpit said:

    Good, you cannot have any Tom, Dick, or Mary being able to walk in.

    JPMorgan requiring biometric data for staff access to new headquarters

    New York bank is imposing eye and fingerprint scans amid heightened security concerns at corporate offices


    JPMorgan Chase has told staff moving into the US bank’s new multibillion-dollar Manhattan headquarters they must share their biometric data to access the building, overriding a prior plan for voluntary enrolment.

    Employees who have started work at its 270 Park Avenue skyscraper since August have received emails saying biometric access is “required”, according to a communication seen by the Financial Times. This allows people to scan their fingerprints or eye instead of ID badges to get through the lobby security gates.

    JPMorgan declined to comment. The bank’s headquarters, which cost a reported $3bn, will eventually house about 10,000 employees once it is fully open later this year.

    The goal is to make access to the building more secure and convenient. There are exemptions for some employees who can still use their badge to enter the building, though it was not clear who would receive them.

    It comes amid heightened security concerns across corporate offices in New York following a deadly shooting at 345 Park Avenue in July, a few blocks up the street from JPMorgan’s offices.


    https://www.ft.com/content/d5351d3d-d64f-4a90-a3da-d1ef8e8bea66

    It’s a bit more difficult to bribe or extort someone for their fingers and eyes, than to borrow or copy an ID card.

    For those wondering, these systems don’t actually store fingerprints and eye scans, they store an algorithmic code that represents them when presented to the machine. Same as TouchID and FaceID on your phone.
    Many years ago when I worked in Leeds the office fob point stopped working properly, and instead of using your card to get in you could use anything to swipe in, I once swiped in using a potato.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 57,420

    Nigelb said:

    Good, you cannot have any Tom, Dick, or Mary being able to walk in.

    JPMorgan requiring biometric data for staff access to new headquarters

    New York bank is imposing eye and fingerprint scans amid heightened security concerns at corporate offices


    JPMorgan Chase has told staff moving into the US bank’s new multibillion-dollar Manhattan headquarters they must share their biometric data to access the building, overriding a prior plan for voluntary enrolment.

    Employees who have started work at its 270 Park Avenue skyscraper since August have received emails saying biometric access is “required”, according to a communication seen by the Financial Times. This allows people to scan their fingerprints or eye instead of ID badges to get through the lobby security gates.

    JPMorgan declined to comment. The bank’s headquarters, which cost a reported $3bn, will eventually house about 10,000 employees once it is fully open later this year.

    The goal is to make access to the building more secure and convenient. There are exemptions for some employees who can still use their badge to enter the building, though it was not clear who would receive them.

    It comes amid heightened security concerns across corporate offices in New York following a deadly shooting at 345 Park Avenue in July, a few blocks up the street from JPMorgan’s offices.


    https://www.ft.com/content/d5351d3d-d64f-4a90-a3da-d1ef8e8bea66

    Charlie Javice just went to jail for seven years for defrauding them of $175m.
    Plus expenses,

    Because of a clause in the M&A docs, JPM has to pick up Charlie Javice’s legal bill for defrauding them. She’s run up $115M in bills. Absolutely incredible.
    https://x.com/yrechtman/status/1976320602043724015
    $115 million for lawyers is an utter bargain.
    JPM had to pay their own lawyers another $175m in the same case.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 35,032
    stodge said:

    Morning all :)

    Well, quite. It again begs the question, given we've had two long periods of Conservative or Conservative-led Government in the last 45 years or so, why Stamp Duty was never abolished by Howe, Lawson, Lamont, Clarke or all the other Conservative Chancellors.

    The conclusion is Stamp Duty must fulfill some form of function, possibly as a regulatory mechanism in the housing market preventing prices rising even more and making the goal of home ownership so beloved by Tories as a souce of future voters even more unachievable or it's been a nice little earner (as Mr Daley would have said) for the Treasury.

    Given first time purchasers are already free of stamp duty up to the value of £300k, Badenoch's plan, from which she cannot now extricate herself, and which only applies to England and Northern Ireland, is clearly aimed further up the property market. The truth is as prices have risen, more have been caught - the majority of purchases would be in the 5% category but once you get to between £925k and £1.5 million it's 10% so the amount of stamp duty payable on a £920k purchase would be £46k and the amount on a £930k purchase would be £93k if I've done it right.

    That brings in an increasing number of property purchases particularly in southern LD held constituencies which I suspect is the prime target for this policy but the stamp duty rate also acts as a barrier on house price inflation.

    I can't remember, but was the stamp duty rate ever increased by any of the above mentioned?
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 33,283
    45 minutes to the Nobel Peace Prize announcement. This week's Gaza peace deal will surely have come too late!
  • Sandpit said:

    Nigelb said:

    Good, you cannot have any Tom, Dick, or Mary being able to walk in.

    JPMorgan requiring biometric data for staff access to new headquarters

    New York bank is imposing eye and fingerprint scans amid heightened security concerns at corporate offices


    JPMorgan Chase has told staff moving into the US bank’s new multibillion-dollar Manhattan headquarters they must share their biometric data to access the building, overriding a prior plan for voluntary enrolment.

    Employees who have started work at its 270 Park Avenue skyscraper since August have received emails saying biometric access is “required”, according to a communication seen by the Financial Times. This allows people to scan their fingerprints or eye instead of ID badges to get through the lobby security gates.

    JPMorgan declined to comment. The bank’s headquarters, which cost a reported $3bn, will eventually house about 10,000 employees once it is fully open later this year.

    The goal is to make access to the building more secure and convenient. There are exemptions for some employees who can still use their badge to enter the building, though it was not clear who would receive them.

    It comes amid heightened security concerns across corporate offices in New York following a deadly shooting at 345 Park Avenue in July, a few blocks up the street from JPMorgan’s offices.


    https://www.ft.com/content/d5351d3d-d64f-4a90-a3da-d1ef8e8bea66

    Charlie Javice just went to jail for seven years for defrauding them of $175m.
    Plus expenses,

    Because of a clause in the M&A docs, JPM has to pick up Charlie Javice’s legal bill for defrauding them. She’s run up $115M in bills. Absolutely incredible.
    https://x.com/yrechtman/status/1976320602043724015
    $115 million for lawyers is an utter bargain.
    JPM had to pay their own lawyers another $175m in the same case.
    This story brings some real joy into the world.

    $280 million for lawyers, what's not to love?
  • boulayboulay Posts: 7,589

    Sandpit said:

    Good, you cannot have any Tom, Dick, or Mary being able to walk in.

    JPMorgan requiring biometric data for staff access to new headquarters

    New York bank is imposing eye and fingerprint scans amid heightened security concerns at corporate offices


    JPMorgan Chase has told staff moving into the US bank’s new multibillion-dollar Manhattan headquarters they must share their biometric data to access the building, overriding a prior plan for voluntary enrolment.

    Employees who have started work at its 270 Park Avenue skyscraper since August have received emails saying biometric access is “required”, according to a communication seen by the Financial Times. This allows people to scan their fingerprints or eye instead of ID badges to get through the lobby security gates.

    JPMorgan declined to comment. The bank’s headquarters, which cost a reported $3bn, will eventually house about 10,000 employees once it is fully open later this year.

    The goal is to make access to the building more secure and convenient. There are exemptions for some employees who can still use their badge to enter the building, though it was not clear who would receive them.

    It comes amid heightened security concerns across corporate offices in New York following a deadly shooting at 345 Park Avenue in July, a few blocks up the street from JPMorgan’s offices.


    https://www.ft.com/content/d5351d3d-d64f-4a90-a3da-d1ef8e8bea66

    It’s a bit more difficult to bribe or extort someone for their fingers and eyes, than to borrow or copy an ID card.

    For those wondering, these systems don’t actually store fingerprints and eye scans, they store an algorithmic code that represents them when presented to the machine. Same as TouchID and FaceID on your phone.
    Many years ago when I worked in Leeds the office fob point stopped working properly, and instead of using your card to get in you could use anything to swipe in, I once swiped in using a potato.
    Why were you carrying a potato in Leeds? Were you carrying it to wow the benighted people of Leeds with this magical food from across the ocean?
  • BattlebusBattlebus Posts: 1,718
    stodge said:

    Morning all :)

    Well, quite. It again begs the question, given we've had two long periods of Conservative or Conservative-led Government in the last 45 years or so, why Stamp Duty was never abolished by Howe, Lawson, Lamont, Clarke or all the other Conservative Chancellors.

    The conclusion is Stamp Duty must fulfill some form of function, possibly as a regulatory mechanism in the housing market preventing prices rising even more and making the goal of home ownership so beloved by Tories as a souce of future voters even more unachievable or it's been a nice little earner (as Mr Daley would have said) for the Treasury.

    Given first time purchasers are already free of stamp duty up to the value of £300k, Badenoch's plan, from which she cannot now extricate herself, and which only applies to England and Northern Ireland, is clearly aimed further up the property market. The truth is as prices have risen, more have been caught - the majority of purchases would be in the 5% category but once you get to between £925k and £1.5 million it's 10% so the amount of stamp duty payable on a £920k purchase would be £46k and the amount on a £930k purchase would be £93k if I've done it right.

    That brings in an increasing number of property purchases particularly in southern LD held constituencies which I suspect is the prime target for this policy but the stamp duty rate also acts as a barrier on house price inflation.

    IMHO the policy was there to fill the policy vacuum that has been evident since Kemi took over. There is a hole somewhere at CCHQ that has not been filled with the best and brightest advisors as in the past. But at least there is something to talk about.

    On a related theme, AFAIK the LibDems Orange Bookers had the LVT idea for at least 15 years, if not more. An example from 2018. So is CCHQ LibDem Central now?

    https://www.libdems.org.uk/news/article/taxing-land-not-investment
  • eekeek Posts: 31,485

    45 minutes to the Nobel Peace Prize announcement. This week's Gaza peace deal will surely have come too late!

    So 50 minutes until Trump declares war on Sweden due to the slight of not winning it
  • boulay said:

    Sandpit said:

    Good, you cannot have any Tom, Dick, or Mary being able to walk in.

    JPMorgan requiring biometric data for staff access to new headquarters

    New York bank is imposing eye and fingerprint scans amid heightened security concerns at corporate offices


    JPMorgan Chase has told staff moving into the US bank’s new multibillion-dollar Manhattan headquarters they must share their biometric data to access the building, overriding a prior plan for voluntary enrolment.

    Employees who have started work at its 270 Park Avenue skyscraper since August have received emails saying biometric access is “required”, according to a communication seen by the Financial Times. This allows people to scan their fingerprints or eye instead of ID badges to get through the lobby security gates.

    JPMorgan declined to comment. The bank’s headquarters, which cost a reported $3bn, will eventually house about 10,000 employees once it is fully open later this year.

    The goal is to make access to the building more secure and convenient. There are exemptions for some employees who can still use their badge to enter the building, though it was not clear who would receive them.

    It comes amid heightened security concerns across corporate offices in New York following a deadly shooting at 345 Park Avenue in July, a few blocks up the street from JPMorgan’s offices.


    https://www.ft.com/content/d5351d3d-d64f-4a90-a3da-d1ef8e8bea66

    It’s a bit more difficult to bribe or extort someone for their fingers and eyes, than to borrow or copy an ID card.

    For those wondering, these systems don’t actually store fingerprints and eye scans, they store an algorithmic code that represents them when presented to the machine. Same as TouchID and FaceID on your phone.
    Many years ago when I worked in Leeds the office fob point stopped working properly, and instead of using your card to get in you could use anything to swipe in, I once swiped in using a potato.
    Why were you carrying a potato in Leeds? Were you carrying it to wow the benighted people of Leeds with this magical food from across the ocean?
    My colleagues and I set ourselves a challenge with the most obscure item you could swipe in with.

    So I brought in a potato from home.
  • malcolmg said:

    malcolmg said:

    I'm guessing that the pensioner gravy train will derail just before I reach retirement age.

    some feckin gravy train , 11K a year. work and save your own money sponger.
    11k a year of other people's money they are working for.
    Dumb and dumber appears, yes they only paid 50 years for it you cretinous halfwitted thick twunt.
    If they paid for it then use the savings they paid for, no need to tax those working today.

    Oh wait, they never did. There are no savings, just debt that was passed on.

    Moron.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 57,420

    Sandpit said:

    Nigelb said:

    Good, you cannot have any Tom, Dick, or Mary being able to walk in.

    JPMorgan requiring biometric data for staff access to new headquarters

    New York bank is imposing eye and fingerprint scans amid heightened security concerns at corporate offices


    JPMorgan Chase has told staff moving into the US bank’s new multibillion-dollar Manhattan headquarters they must share their biometric data to access the building, overriding a prior plan for voluntary enrolment.

    Employees who have started work at its 270 Park Avenue skyscraper since August have received emails saying biometric access is “required”, according to a communication seen by the Financial Times. This allows people to scan their fingerprints or eye instead of ID badges to get through the lobby security gates.

    JPMorgan declined to comment. The bank’s headquarters, which cost a reported $3bn, will eventually house about 10,000 employees once it is fully open later this year.

    The goal is to make access to the building more secure and convenient. There are exemptions for some employees who can still use their badge to enter the building, though it was not clear who would receive them.

    It comes amid heightened security concerns across corporate offices in New York following a deadly shooting at 345 Park Avenue in July, a few blocks up the street from JPMorgan’s offices.


    https://www.ft.com/content/d5351d3d-d64f-4a90-a3da-d1ef8e8bea66

    Charlie Javice just went to jail for seven years for defrauding them of $175m.
    Plus expenses,

    Because of a clause in the M&A docs, JPM has to pick up Charlie Javice’s legal bill for defrauding them. She’s run up $115M in bills. Absolutely incredible.
    https://x.com/yrechtman/status/1976320602043724015
    $115 million for lawyers is an utter bargain.
    JPM had to pay their own lawyers another $175m in the same case.
    This story brings some real joy into the world.

    $280 million for lawyers, what's not to love?
    We all love lawyers who can’t add up their own bills.
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 33,283
    ‘Massive’ Russian attack on Ukraine capital triggers blackouts and sets high-rise alight
    Powerful blasts reported in Kyiv as missiles and drones target energy infrastructure, injuring nine

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/oct/10/russian-attack-kyiv-ukraine-capital-blackouts-sets-high-rise-alight

    Ukraine and Russia continue targeting each other's energy infrastructure.
  • MattWMattW Posts: 30,263
    edited October 10
    This is a good 8 minute video from Ashley Neal about pavement parking. He was without his car, so being a Youtuber he took advantage. As per usual, I agree with about 80-90% of Ash's comments.

    Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yni9x59ej1c

    My comment to try and persuade his audience:
    OK. Serious answer. IMO YES we need a pavement parking ban, but that's only 10% of the answer - the rest is a better society. The reasons:

    1 - The principle is equality, for pedestrians but also especially for marginalised groups - young, old, disabled, pregnancy / maternity. Equality in public policy for these groups have been a matter of law for many years, and is a statutory duty for all new work. That is notably missing from long term strategic projects planned to cost 10s of million in 15 years time, which then get wired in, unconsidered.

    A key part of that is listening to people's experience, rather than us telling them what THEY need. That is what Equality Impact Assessments are about.

    2 - We have examples that just work successfully, and we know how to do it. Edinburgh particularly, but also London, Manchester, and bringing ASB parking with Operation SNAP (eg Cheshire). There is a massive upside, and little downside. eg So people have topark on their drives not the footway - big deal ! In other circumstances such as eg Ash's narrow roads, we know how to do adjustments at street design or network level, and it is not difficult.

    3 - The main change is to road culture, where not thinking is endemic, as per Ashley's finding for the last X years. I've done some activism on this with Wheels for Wellbeing and it is like conversations at traffic lights; sometimes it is a good educational conversation, and sometimes it is heavy verbal abuse. Disabled people do not complain because most of them cannot escape easily and if they have tried eg knocking on a house door, they may have had verbal abuse or even threats. My worst abuse was from someone who had blocked mobility aid access to an entire hospital by blocking a drop kerb, rather than park in an allocated space 20m further away.

    4 - It is about political will and enforcement. After the ULEZ and cycling political culture wars by the last Government, the current one is timid. It needs both a ban, and bringing traffic offences into Op SNAP for enforcement, because the police universally want to slope shoulders on this. The organisational DNA needs to be rewritten.

    This Govt will move forward, but will delegate decisions to Local Highways Authorities, which means that the ones that most need to take action (eg Liverpool, Notts) are exactly the ones that will not because the Councils are stuck in the past.


    A piccie of one I chatted to recently, and had a really good conversation. The building at the roundabout is a GP surgery. There's plenty of space for carri
    ageway parking.

  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 35,032
    Nigelb said:

    DavidL said:

    Nigelb said:

    Nigelb said:

    With the Trump administration, it's always about the grift.

    So the Argentine bailout wasn’t for Argentina as much as it was for a hedge fund friend of Scott Bessent.

    Rob Citrone a billionaire hedge fund guy who owns Discovery Capital, purchased Argentine debt and equity in numerous companies closely tied to the country’s overall economy.

    He made a bet that the economic policies would revitalize the economy. He was wrong and stood to lose his ass. This was nothing more than Crony Capitalism at the tax payers expense.

    https://x.com/PrezLives2022/status/1976326675638960305

    It is also about the revenge.

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/letitia-james-criminal-charges-trump-b2842780.html
    The one thing is corruption; the other is fascism.
    This is completely unfair. Trump having someone prosecuted for bank fraud shows the man has an excellent sense of humour, nothing more.
    Such pleasing irony isn't entirely unusual in authoritarian regimes of all flavours.
    Fascism is probably the right term here, as the only real underlying ideology is loyalty to the leader.
    As PB pontificates daily on their hatred of Starmer and Reeves and the magnificent resurrection of their beloved Tory party over another unfunded tax cut promise, some World shattering shit is going on 3,000 miles to the West. And they haven't noticed.

    The betting implications for elections will be off the charts (or off the table- what with plenary authority).
  • CiceroCicero Posts: 3,889
    eek said:

    45 minutes to the Nobel Peace Prize announcement. This week's Gaza peace deal will surely have come too late!

    So 50 minutes until Trump declares war on Sweden due to the slight of not winning it
    eek said:

    45 minutes to the Nobel Peace Prize announcement. This week's Gaza peace deal will surely have come too late!

    So 50 minutes until Trump declares war on Sweden due to the slight of not winning it
    Well of course Trump would do that, particularly as it is the Norwegian Nobel committee that decides.

    Greenlanders will be fearing the worst- unless Trump gets the Peace prize, there will be war. It is beyond parody really.
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 20,498
    Sandpit said:

    Is there any tax that polling would say shouldn’t be abolished?

    At least there’s good evidence for SDLT being a terrible tax for the amount of money it raises.

    Introducing VAT on private school fees was reasonably popular I seem to recall. I imagine the tax on tobacco is also quite popular.

    I would think that you could find quite a few taxes, particularly those considered to be paid by other people, that people would oppose the abolition of.
  • boulayboulay Posts: 7,589

    boulay said:

    Sandpit said:

    Good, you cannot have any Tom, Dick, or Mary being able to walk in.

    JPMorgan requiring biometric data for staff access to new headquarters

    New York bank is imposing eye and fingerprint scans amid heightened security concerns at corporate offices


    JPMorgan Chase has told staff moving into the US bank’s new multibillion-dollar Manhattan headquarters they must share their biometric data to access the building, overriding a prior plan for voluntary enrolment.

    Employees who have started work at its 270 Park Avenue skyscraper since August have received emails saying biometric access is “required”, according to a communication seen by the Financial Times. This allows people to scan their fingerprints or eye instead of ID badges to get through the lobby security gates.

    JPMorgan declined to comment. The bank’s headquarters, which cost a reported $3bn, will eventually house about 10,000 employees once it is fully open later this year.

    The goal is to make access to the building more secure and convenient. There are exemptions for some employees who can still use their badge to enter the building, though it was not clear who would receive them.

    It comes amid heightened security concerns across corporate offices in New York following a deadly shooting at 345 Park Avenue in July, a few blocks up the street from JPMorgan’s offices.


    https://www.ft.com/content/d5351d3d-d64f-4a90-a3da-d1ef8e8bea66

    It’s a bit more difficult to bribe or extort someone for their fingers and eyes, than to borrow or copy an ID card.

    For those wondering, these systems don’t actually store fingerprints and eye scans, they store an algorithmic code that represents them when presented to the machine. Same as TouchID and FaceID on your phone.
    Many years ago when I worked in Leeds the office fob point stopped working properly, and instead of using your card to get in you could use anything to swipe in, I once swiped in using a potato.
    Why were you carrying a potato in Leeds? Were you carrying it to wow the benighted people of Leeds with this magical food from across the ocean?
    My colleagues and I set ourselves a challenge with the most obscure item you could swipe in with.

    So I brought in a potato from home.
    Ok, so it wasn’t an early version of wearing expensive watches to rub the oiks’ noses in it. “I have a very expensive potato, you merely have smash.”
  • eek said:

    45 minutes to the Nobel Peace Prize announcement. This week's Gaza peace deal will surely have come too late!

    So 50 minutes until Trump declares war on Sweden due to the slight of not winning it
    Knowing Trump, he'll probably declare war on Denmark due to the slight of not winning it.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 68,405
    eek said:

    45 minutes to the Nobel Peace Prize announcement. This week's Gaza peace deal will surely have come too late!

    So 50 minutes until Trump declares war on Sweden due to the slight of not winning it
    Will be when the committee declare that Biden has won it!

  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 33,283

    eek said:

    45 minutes to the Nobel Peace Prize announcement. This week's Gaza peace deal will surely have come too late!

    So 50 minutes until Trump declares war on Sweden due to the slight of not winning it
    Knowing Trump, he'll probably declare war on Denmark due to the slight of not winning it.
    Other way round imo. Once Trump has the Nobel Peace Prize, he will be free to invade Venezuela, Greenland and Canada in that order. If the Gaza Peace accord holds, we shall find out next year.
  • CiceroCicero Posts: 3,889
    algarkirk said:

    Cookie said:

    MattW said:

    Good morning PB.

    Important news: The Gentrification of Penge:

    An influx of independent coffee shops, cycle clubs and art galleries has changed the face of Penge for good.

    Long-time residents were stunned at the start of the year when it was voted one of the top 11 coolest postcodes in Britain.
    ...
    Nothing screams the new Penge more than a series of street artwork next to a McDonald's in the town centre.
    ...
    'It's not posh, never has been posh, so why try and make it posh?

    'They're trying to make it look like Brixton - and that is not a good thing.

    http://bit.ly/42BZxua (incoming Daily Mail)

    Lots going on here.
    1) "Penge" is one of the most cherishably ridiculous names for a suburb in the country. Very London. If the opening section to "Sheffield: Sex City" were transposed to London, Penge would definitely feature.
    2) "They" - there seems to be a pervasive inference among the complaining classes that "They" are a lot more coordinated and powerful than is actually the case. Who are "they"? I normally infer the local council. Having worked with councils, I am amused by the idea of them as shadowy and powerful cabals.
    3) London is the only place in the country where people seem to resent the idea of their suburb improving in any way. "Gentrification" is a pejorative term in London in a way that it really isn't in the rest of the country.
    4) Having grown up in the 80s, the idea that anywhere might aspire to be Brixton is interestingly jarring.
    Railway Cuttings, Penge. Home of Hancock's Half Hour, of blessed memory. His death in 1968 hit the nation hard.

    Thankfully quite a bit of both his radio and TV work survives. Beginners (are there some on PB?) might start with 'The Blood Donor'.
    Alas it was Railway Cuttings, East Cheam...

    Penge is though one of those near comedy names like Chorlton-cum-Hardy or Twatt that lives long in the memory, for some reason.
  • EabhalEabhal Posts: 12,166
    edited October 10
    eek said:

    45 minutes to the Nobel Peace Prize announcement. This week's Gaza peace deal will surely have come too late!

    So 50 minutes until Trump declares war on Sweden due to the slight of not winning it
    If it's Obama I hope @TridentSubCommander has recovered from their 200 day patrol.
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 45,842

    Cookie said:

    Eabhal said:

    Some interesting comments on social media bubbles FPT. I'm aware that I'm in one with a number of friends who are deeply concerned and traumatised by what is happening in Gaza, and so I am exposed to videos that other PBers are not.

    Goes someway to explaining the different attitudes that people have. I'd suggest my bubble is much larger given the polling in Israel/Palestine.

    For betting purposes - the Greens have a very high profile at the moment in my cohort and are generating some momentum.

    Yes, it's interesting (and troubling) what different people's algorithms expose them to.
    The only social media I am on is facebook. Which in terms of politics seems to assume I am a left wing Europhile. I really don't engage apart from to hide things I strongly disagree with, so I can only assume that's how it packages me as a suburban/metropolitan.
    I also get a weirdly large amount of argument about Gary Neville.
    I feel obliged to point out that you're also on PB which I think is a form of social media.
    Or antisocial.
    On a related issue, guess who's come out against clickbaiting? Also sensationalism and hyperbolics by journalists. And journos' abuse of AI. Coo, he even wants journos to have ethics.

    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2025/oct/10/you-wont-believe-what-degrading-practice-the-pope-just-condemned
  • Sandpit said:

    Sandpit said:

    Nigelb said:

    Good, you cannot have any Tom, Dick, or Mary being able to walk in.

    JPMorgan requiring biometric data for staff access to new headquarters

    New York bank is imposing eye and fingerprint scans amid heightened security concerns at corporate offices


    JPMorgan Chase has told staff moving into the US bank’s new multibillion-dollar Manhattan headquarters they must share their biometric data to access the building, overriding a prior plan for voluntary enrolment.

    Employees who have started work at its 270 Park Avenue skyscraper since August have received emails saying biometric access is “required”, according to a communication seen by the Financial Times. This allows people to scan their fingerprints or eye instead of ID badges to get through the lobby security gates.

    JPMorgan declined to comment. The bank’s headquarters, which cost a reported $3bn, will eventually house about 10,000 employees once it is fully open later this year.

    The goal is to make access to the building more secure and convenient. There are exemptions for some employees who can still use their badge to enter the building, though it was not clear who would receive them.

    It comes amid heightened security concerns across corporate offices in New York following a deadly shooting at 345 Park Avenue in July, a few blocks up the street from JPMorgan’s offices.


    https://www.ft.com/content/d5351d3d-d64f-4a90-a3da-d1ef8e8bea66

    Charlie Javice just went to jail for seven years for defrauding them of $175m.
    Plus expenses,

    Because of a clause in the M&A docs, JPM has to pick up Charlie Javice’s legal bill for defrauding them. She’s run up $115M in bills. Absolutely incredible.
    https://x.com/yrechtman/status/1976320602043724015
    $115 million for lawyers is an utter bargain.
    JPM had to pay their own lawyers another $175m in the same case.
    This story brings some real joy into the world.

    $280 million for lawyers, what's not to love?
    We all love lawyers who can’t add up their own bills.
    My favourite case I was ever involved with was two businessmen who set up their own joint venture.

    Businessman 1 provided the sales whilst businessman 2 provided the accounts/admin.

    They had a major falling out, businessman 1 sued the bank for paying out cheques that weren't to mandate, bank brought in businessman 2 as a part 20 defendant.

    The cheques were for legitimate services and some of them paid businessman 1 and his businesses but crucially most weren't to mandate (any payments over £25,000 needed two signatories and most of them had only one).

    The total payments came to around £600,000 but neither side wanted to back down, the legal costs came to over £2 million as the dispute lasted years.
  • MattWMattW Posts: 30,263
    Dopermean said:

    MattW said:

    Good morning PB.

    Important news: The Gentrification of Penge:

    An influx of independent coffee shops, cycle clubs and art galleries has changed the face of Penge for good.

    Long-time residents were stunned at the start of the year when it was voted one of the top 11 coolest postcodes in Britain.
    ...
    Nothing screams the new Penge more than a series of street artwork next to a McDonald's in the town centre.
    ...
    'It's not posh, never has been posh, so why try and make it posh?

    'They're trying to make it look like Brixton - and that is not a good thing.

    http://bit.ly/42BZxua (incoming Daily Mail)

    Is that a typo? Incoming Daily Mash?
    Penge is one of the places (like Neasdon and East Sheen) that is forever a 1970s sitcom.
  • CiceroCicero Posts: 3,889
    kjh said:

    Good, you cannot have any Tom, Dick, or Mary being able to walk in.

    JPMorgan requiring biometric data for staff access to new headquarters

    New York bank is imposing eye and fingerprint scans amid heightened security concerns at corporate offices


    JPMorgan Chase has told staff moving into the US bank’s new multibillion-dollar Manhattan headquarters they must share their biometric data to access the building, overriding a prior plan for voluntary enrolment.

    Employees who have started work at its 270 Park Avenue skyscraper since August have received emails saying biometric access is “required”, according to a communication seen by the Financial Times. This allows people to scan their fingerprints or eye instead of ID badges to get through the lobby security gates.

    JPMorgan declined to comment. The bank’s headquarters, which cost a reported $3bn, will eventually house about 10,000 employees once it is fully open later this year.

    The goal is to make access to the building more secure and convenient. There are exemptions for some employees who can still use their badge to enter the building, though it was not clear who would receive them.

    It comes amid heightened security concerns across corporate offices in New York following a deadly shooting at 345 Park Avenue in July, a few blocks up the street from JPMorgan’s offices.


    https://www.ft.com/content/d5351d3d-d64f-4a90-a3da-d1ef8e8bea66

    Does that mean you can't get a job at JPMorgan if your name is Tom, Dick or Mary?
    When I worked at Morgan there were quite a few Dicks.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 57,420
    The Nobel decision would have been made before yesterday, so it’s unlikey to be Trump as he failed miserably to get Russia out of Ukraine, a job he thought would be easy but proved not to be.

    He does deserve some credit for the ceasefire in Israel and Gaza, if it holds, so he has a year to smack Putin’s arse with Tomahawks if he wants that prize.
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 45,842
    Sandpit said:

    Sandpit said:

    Nigelb said:

    Good, you cannot have any Tom, Dick, or Mary being able to walk in.

    JPMorgan requiring biometric data for staff access to new headquarters

    New York bank is imposing eye and fingerprint scans amid heightened security concerns at corporate offices


    JPMorgan Chase has told staff moving into the US bank’s new multibillion-dollar Manhattan headquarters they must share their biometric data to access the building, overriding a prior plan for voluntary enrolment.

    Employees who have started work at its 270 Park Avenue skyscraper since August have received emails saying biometric access is “required”, according to a communication seen by the Financial Times. This allows people to scan their fingerprints or eye instead of ID badges to get through the lobby security gates.

    JPMorgan declined to comment. The bank’s headquarters, which cost a reported $3bn, will eventually house about 10,000 employees once it is fully open later this year.

    The goal is to make access to the building more secure and convenient. There are exemptions for some employees who can still use their badge to enter the building, though it was not clear who would receive them.

    It comes amid heightened security concerns across corporate offices in New York following a deadly shooting at 345 Park Avenue in July, a few blocks up the street from JPMorgan’s offices.


    https://www.ft.com/content/d5351d3d-d64f-4a90-a3da-d1ef8e8bea66

    Charlie Javice just went to jail for seven years for defrauding them of $175m.
    Plus expenses,

    Because of a clause in the M&A docs, JPM has to pick up Charlie Javice’s legal bill for defrauding them. She’s run up $115M in bills. Absolutely incredible.
    https://x.com/yrechtman/status/1976320602043724015
    $115 million for lawyers is an utter bargain.
    JPM had to pay their own lawyers another $175m in the same case.
    This story brings some real joy into the world.

    $280 million for lawyers, what's not to love?
    We all love lawyers who can’t add up their own bills.
    My first life experience of lawyers was my mother's dealings with a small burgh lawyer who lost my great-aunt's will and then had the cheek to charge for the necessary work to obtain probate despite lack of aforesaid will, and then made mistakes in the adding up of said charges. On top of costing the family a great deal in the loss of value of stocks during the additional time he wasted.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 68,405
    edited October 10
    Cicero said:

    eek said:

    45 minutes to the Nobel Peace Prize announcement. This week's Gaza peace deal will surely have come too late!

    So 50 minutes until Trump declares war on Sweden due to the slight of not winning it
    eek said:

    45 minutes to the Nobel Peace Prize announcement. This week's Gaza peace deal will surely have come too late!

    So 50 minutes until Trump declares war on Sweden due to the slight of not winning it
    Well of course Trump would do that, particularly as it is the Norwegian Nobel committee that decides.

    Greenlanders will be fearing the worst- unless Trump gets the Peace prize, there will be war. It is beyond parody really.
    Shouldn't it be Jared Kushner who gets the prize? He seems to be the one who has done all the work.

    Now that would make for a lovely family Thanksgiving meal at chez Trump!!!
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 45,842
    Sandpit said:

    The Nobel decision would have been made before yesterday, so it’s unlikey to be Trump as he failed miserably to get Russia out of Ukraine, a job he thought would be easy but proved not to be.

    He does deserve some credit for the ceasefire in Israel and Gaza, if it holds, so he has a year to smack Putin’s arse with Tomahawks if he wants that prize.

    The committee decided on Monday, which is of course before the news re the ME.
  • boulayboulay Posts: 7,589
    RFK jr is a tinker isn’t he, trying to sneak in for the Peace prize for bringing together the Jewish and Muslim peoples by pissing them both off together.

    https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/rfk-jr-cites-truly-appalling-studies-to-tie-autism-to-circumcision-and/

    Next he’s going to announce that his brain is controlled by the worm he got from eating pork.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 81,957
    Cicero said:

    algarkirk said:

    Cookie said:

    MattW said:

    Good morning PB.

    Important news: The Gentrification of Penge:

    An influx of independent coffee shops, cycle clubs and art galleries has changed the face of Penge for good.

    Long-time residents were stunned at the start of the year when it was voted one of the top 11 coolest postcodes in Britain.
    ...
    Nothing screams the new Penge more than a series of street artwork next to a McDonald's in the town centre.
    ...
    'It's not posh, never has been posh, so why try and make it posh?

    'They're trying to make it look like Brixton - and that is not a good thing.

    http://bit.ly/42BZxua (incoming Daily Mail)

    Lots going on here.
    1) "Penge" is one of the most cherishably ridiculous names for a suburb in the country. Very London. If the opening section to "Sheffield: Sex City" were transposed to London, Penge would definitely feature.
    2) "They" - there seems to be a pervasive inference among the complaining classes that "They" are a lot more coordinated and powerful than is actually the case. Who are "they"? I normally infer the local council. Having worked with councils, I am amused by the idea of them as shadowy and powerful cabals.
    3) London is the only place in the country where people seem to resent the idea of their suburb improving in any way. "Gentrification" is a pejorative term in London in a way that it really isn't in the rest of the country.
    4) Having grown up in the 80s, the idea that anywhere might aspire to be Brixton is interestingly jarring.
    Railway Cuttings, Penge. Home of Hancock's Half Hour, of blessed memory. His death in 1968 hit the nation hard.

    Thankfully quite a bit of both his radio and TV work survives. Beginners (are there some on PB?) might start with 'The Blood Donor'.
    Alas it was Railway Cuttings, East Cheam...

    Penge is though one of those near comedy names like Chorlton-cum-Hardy or Twatt that lives long in the memory, for some reason.
    Both Bonar Law, and Thomas Crapper were residents of Penge.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 81,957
    MattW said:

    Dopermean said:

    MattW said:

    Good morning PB.

    Important news: The Gentrification of Penge:

    An influx of independent coffee shops, cycle clubs and art galleries has changed the face of Penge for good.

    Long-time residents were stunned at the start of the year when it was voted one of the top 11 coolest postcodes in Britain.
    ...
    Nothing screams the new Penge more than a series of street artwork next to a McDonald's in the town centre.
    ...
    'It's not posh, never has been posh, so why try and make it posh?

    'They're trying to make it look like Brixton - and that is not a good thing.

    http://bit.ly/42BZxua (incoming Daily Mail)

    Is that a typo? Incoming Daily Mash?
    Penge is one of the places (like Neasdon and East Sheen) that is forever a 1970s sitcom.
    The only sitcom actually set there is the noughties Pulling.
  • MattWMattW Posts: 30,263
    algarkirk said:

    Cookie said:

    MattW said:

    Good morning PB.

    Important news: The Gentrification of Penge:

    An influx of independent coffee shops, cycle clubs and art galleries has changed the face of Penge for good.

    Long-time residents were stunned at the start of the year when it was voted one of the top 11 coolest postcodes in Britain.
    ...
    Nothing screams the new Penge more than a series of street artwork next to a McDonald's in the town centre.
    ...
    'It's not posh, never has been posh, so why try and make it posh?

    'They're trying to make it look like Brixton - and that is not a good thing.

    http://bit.ly/42BZxua (incoming Daily Mail)

    Lots going on here.
    1) "Penge" is one of the most cherishably ridiculous names for a suburb in the country. Very London. If the opening section to "Sheffield: Sex City" were transposed to London, Penge would definitely feature.
    2) "They" - there seems to be a pervasive inference among the complaining classes that "They" are a lot more coordinated and powerful than is actually the case. Who are "they"? I normally infer the local council. Having worked with councils, I am amused by the idea of them as shadowy and powerful cabals.
    3) London is the only place in the country where people seem to resent the idea of their suburb improving in any way. "Gentrification" is a pejorative term in London in a way that it really isn't in the rest of the country.
    4) Having grown up in the 80s, the idea that anywhere might aspire to be Brixton is interestingly jarring.
    Railway Cuttings, Penge. Home of Hancock's Half Hour, of blessed memory. His death in 1968 hit the nation hard.

    Thankfully quite a bit of both his radio and TV work survives. Beginners (are there some on PB?) might start with 'The Blood Donor'.
    The Blood Donor was nearly very harmful.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 81,957
    To cheer up your Friday morning.
    Sound on is recommended, and the best bit is at the end.

    This is the (restored) VHS footage of @HecklerAndKoch Factory testing of the G36 all the way to destruction.

    Note that they used 100 Round "double-drum" mags only.

    https://x.com/chrisschmitz/status/1976410371264291073
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 53,533
    stodge said:

    Morning all :)

    Well, quite. It again begs the question, given we've had two long periods of Conservative or Conservative-led Government in the last 45 years or so, why Stamp Duty was never abolished by Howe, Lawson, Lamont, Clarke or all the other Conservative Chancellors.

    The conclusion is Stamp Duty must fulfill some form of function, possibly as a regulatory mechanism in the housing market preventing prices rising even more and making the goal of home ownership so beloved by Tories as a souce of future voters even more unachievable or it's been a nice little earner (as Mr Daley would have said) for the Treasury.

    Given first time purchasers are already free of stamp duty up to the value of £300k, Badenoch's plan, from which she cannot now extricate herself, and which only applies to England and Northern Ireland, is clearly aimed further up the property market. The truth is as prices have risen, more have been caught - the majority of purchases would be in the 5% category but once you get to between £925k and £1.5 million it's 10% so the amount of stamp duty payable on a £920k purchase would be £46k and the amount on a £930k purchase would be £93k if I've done it right.

    That brings in an increasing number of property purchases particularly in southern LD held constituencies which I suspect is the prime target for this policy but the stamp duty rate also acts as a barrier on house price inflation.

    I dont think your sums in the penultimate paragraph are correct. It used to be that SD was on the entire price above the threshold, but now its more like income tax and only applied to the sum above the threshold. Hence it removes steps like that in your example.

    https://www.gov.uk/stamp-duty-land-tax/residential-property-rates
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 57,420
    MattW said:

    algarkirk said:

    Cookie said:

    MattW said:

    Good morning PB.

    Important news: The Gentrification of Penge:

    An influx of independent coffee shops, cycle clubs and art galleries has changed the face of Penge for good.

    Long-time residents were stunned at the start of the year when it was voted one of the top 11 coolest postcodes in Britain.
    ...
    Nothing screams the new Penge more than a series of street artwork next to a McDonald's in the town centre.
    ...
    'It's not posh, never has been posh, so why try and make it posh?

    'They're trying to make it look like Brixton - and that is not a good thing.

    http://bit.ly/42BZxua (incoming Daily Mail)

    Lots going on here.
    1) "Penge" is one of the most cherishably ridiculous names for a suburb in the country. Very London. If the opening section to "Sheffield: Sex City" were transposed to London, Penge would definitely feature.
    2) "They" - there seems to be a pervasive inference among the complaining classes that "They" are a lot more coordinated and powerful than is actually the case. Who are "they"? I normally infer the local council. Having worked with councils, I am amused by the idea of them as shadowy and powerful cabals.
    3) London is the only place in the country where people seem to resent the idea of their suburb improving in any way. "Gentrification" is a pejorative term in London in a way that it really isn't in the rest of the country.
    4) Having grown up in the 80s, the idea that anywhere might aspire to be Brixton is interestingly jarring.
    Railway Cuttings, Penge. Home of Hancock's Half Hour, of blessed memory. His death in 1968 hit the nation hard.

    Thankfully quite a bit of both his radio and TV work survives. Beginners (are there some on PB?) might start with 'The Blood Donor'.
    The Blood Donor was nearly very harmful.
    It was pretty armful.
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