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  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 61,281
    Leon said:

    I know there's a few lovers of the ancients on here.

    Be ready people...


    The Odyssey (2026 film)

    The Odyssey is an upcoming epic action fantasy film written and directed by Christopher Nolan.

    Filming took place from February to August 2025 throughout various regions worldwide, including Morocco, Greece, Italy, Scotland, Iceland, and Western Sahara. With an estimated production budget of $250 million, it is poised to be the most expensive film of Nolan's career and the first blockbuster to be shot entirely using 70 mm IMAX film cameras.

    The Odyssey is scheduled to be theatrically released in the United States on July 17, 2026.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Odyssey_(2026_film)

    I predict this will be the last movie made with such a budget. Because, obvs
    Really?

    Surely AI and technology is creating a bifurcation: lots of stuff that's good and produced very cheaply, and a few mega movies with commensurate budgets.
  • EabhalEabhal Posts: 11,687
    rcs1000 said:

    Eabhal said:

    Andy_JS said:

    I keep seeing car parks with large numbers of electric chargers and only one or two of them being used.

    Because everyone is charging at home so it's not worth paying the extra to do it in a car park.

    You only really need 3 types of charger: 1) Off your house 2) on-street in areas with flats or terraces 3) rapid chargers at the House of Bruar. The Morrisons car park ones seem redundant to me.
    This is spot on: they aren't quick enough to be useful, given you won't be at Morrison's more than 40 minutes. What's the use of adding 3KWh to your battery?
    And where does almost everyone go after Morrisons? Home.
  • DopermeanDopermean Posts: 1,471
    rcs1000 said:

    Eabhal said:

    Andy_JS said:

    I keep seeing car parks with large numbers of electric chargers and only one or two of them being used.

    Because everyone is charging at home so it's not worth paying the extra to do it in a car park.

    You only really need 3 types of charger: 1) Off your house 2) on-street in areas with flats or terraces 3) rapid chargers at the House of Bruar. The Morrisons car park ones seem redundant to me.
    This is spot on: they aren't quick enough to be useful, given you won't be at Morrison's more than 40 minutes. What's the use of adding 3KWh to your battery?
    If you're in a small batteried car it might be of use adding another 9 miles of range while you're shopping.
    TBH if you can't charge at home at 8p/kWh then an EV doesn't make much sense, there'll be a few people who can charge at work for free and some with a Tesla with free charging but those will dwindle. It's a transport solution for people with off-street parking and their own charger.
  • MonkeysMonkeys Posts: 816
    rcs1000 said:

    Leon said:

    I know there's a few lovers of the ancients on here.

    Be ready people...


    The Odyssey (2026 film)

    The Odyssey is an upcoming epic action fantasy film written and directed by Christopher Nolan.

    Filming took place from February to August 2025 throughout various regions worldwide, including Morocco, Greece, Italy, Scotland, Iceland, and Western Sahara. With an estimated production budget of $250 million, it is poised to be the most expensive film of Nolan's career and the first blockbuster to be shot entirely using 70 mm IMAX film cameras.

    The Odyssey is scheduled to be theatrically released in the United States on July 17, 2026.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Odyssey_(2026_film)

    I predict this will be the last movie made with such a budget. Because, obvs
    Really?

    Surely AI and technology is creating a bifurcation: lots of stuff that's good and produced very cheaply, and a few mega movies with commensurate budgets.
    I read recently the next Avengers movie is looking at a $1 Billion budget just for production and cast salaries which is so ludicrous that it must be too big to fail, marketing for this will be insufferable.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 80,735
    Once a chesoskate, always a chespskate.
    Even as an autocratic president.

    So Trump put the national guard on 29 day orders?!

    Why does this matter: They don’t pay full housing allowance and no health insurance until 30 days.

    What an abusive commander in chief. So Trump

    https://x.com/AdamKinzinger/status/1962026341651435538
  • FishingFishing Posts: 5,820

    There's a huge focus on Reeves and Starmer over the 10 year and so on gilt yields but maybe some of this is the market factoring in what a shit show the next it seems likely government will be under Farage in 2029?

    No, that can't be the case because 5-year gilts are at 4.13% on a coupon of 4.38, while 10-year gilts are at 4.75% on a coupon of 4.50 - basically the same, given gilt yields slope upwards at the long end. In fact, the upward slope is broadly where it has been on average for the last 15 years. So the market doesn't seem to have any expectation that the next governments will be worse than the current shower.
  • MattWMattW Posts: 29,517
    viewcode said:

    MattW said:

    Let me repeat a question from the other day.

    Does anyone have news of @Pagan2 ?

    (I'm aware that he is banned, but he also reported a cancer.)

    I do not. Have you tried PM'ing them via your account?
    I've dropped him an email; given that he is currently banned that is I think more likely to make it through than a PM.
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 46,743
    This from Musky Baby made me laugh:

    https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1962328379513844150

    So he's now going after women's contraception.
  • MattWMattW Posts: 29,517
    Coming back to the header, I think the difference between Kemi and IDS is that we can see IDS's post-leadership career.

    In that I see one highlight - his initial work (with Tim Montgomerie) on Universal Credit and Work/Welfare, but it was holed below the waterline by Osborne. And IDS has since then gradually become a Colonel Blimp in string-backed driving gloves.

    Kemi - there's no way to know yet given that she is not yet defenestrated, but I am musing a comparison of her and Jenrick to Servalan and Avon or Vila. Like Servalan, Kemi wants to be an authority figure with a faux horsewhip, but it's all a bit panto. I think Jenrick would like the Avon comparison, but he's less competent and less likeable, and perhaps more of a Vila.
  • MattWMattW Posts: 29,517
    edited 5:09AM

    This from Musky Baby made me laugh:

    https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1962328379513844150

    So he's now going after women's contraception.

    Hmmm. That's from "Raw Egg Nationalist", which is a "Man's World" type account from the quiver alongside Catturd, is it not (very roughly)?

    One of Elon's feeders.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 80,735

    This from Musky Baby made me laugh:

    https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1962328379513844150

    So he's now going after women's contraception.

    "Now let's talk about ketamine."
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 61,281

    This from Musky Baby made me laugh:

    https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1962328379513844150

    So he's now going after women's contraception.

    I actually posted on Twitter/X for the first time in years in response to this comment.
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 46,743
    rcs1000 said:

    This from Musky Baby made me laugh:

    https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1962328379513844150

    So he's now going after women's contraception.

    I actually posted on Twitter/X for the first time in years in response to this comment.
    I've just seen that. :)

    I do wonder whether Musk reads the warnings on the boxes of the myriad of drugs he takes?
  • Pro_RataPro_Rata Posts: 5,729
    Roll Call: Presidential announcement at 2pm Washington time.

    One way or another Trump is down to resurface today.
  • MattWMattW Posts: 29,517
    MattW said:

    This from Musky Baby made me laugh:

    https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1962328379513844150

    So he's now going after women's contraception.

    Hmmm. That's from "Raw Egg Nationalist", which is a "Man's World" type account from the quiver alongside Catturd, is it not (very roughly)?

    One of Elon's feeders.
    Quote from his "Man's World" substack:

    The ruling class in the UK is the first Western ruling class in a hundred years to face the same problem faced by Eastern European Communist regimes in 1989—the extreme dissatisfaction of much of the population, with a large percentage of that population having concluded their dissatisfaction can never be resolved through the parliamentary system, so-called democracy. (The last Western regime to face this problem was the Weimar Republic.) The Communist regimes fell in 1989 because they lacked the will to put down massive spontaneous public protests led almost exclusively by previously-unknown men.

    This had precedent—in the most spectacular example, thirty years before, in 1956 Hungary, the exact same thing happened, but there the regional hegemon, the Soviet Union, stepped in with the required violence, which it refused to do in 1989. Thus this path to regime collapse, as well as what a regime must do to avoid collapse, is well-demonstrated. Does the UK regime lack the necessary will in the face of mass protest, violent or not, as well? We cannot know unless and until there are such protests. But my purpose here is to analyze the current situation and what might happen

    https://mansworldmag.online/on-the-united-kingdom-and-1989-eastern-europe-as-harbinger/
  • BartholomewRobertsBartholomewRoberts Posts: 25,788
    MattW said:

    MattW said:

    This from Musky Baby made me laugh:

    https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1962328379513844150

    So he's now going after women's contraception.

    Hmmm. That's from "Raw Egg Nationalist", which is a "Man's World" type account from the quiver alongside Catturd, is it not (very roughly)?

    One of Elon's feeders.
    Quote from his "Man's World" substack:

    The ruling class in the UK is the first Western ruling class in a hundred years to face the same problem faced by Eastern European Communist regimes in 1989—the extreme dissatisfaction of much of the population, with a large percentage of that population having concluded their dissatisfaction can never be resolved through the parliamentary system, so-called democracy. (The last Western regime to face this problem was the Weimar Republic.) The Communist regimes fell in 1989 because they lacked the will to put down massive spontaneous public protests led almost exclusively by previously-unknown men.

    This had precedent—in the most spectacular example, thirty years before, in 1956 Hungary, the exact same thing happened, but there the regional hegemon, the Soviet Union, stepped in with the required violence, which it refused to do in 1989. Thus this path to regime collapse, as well as what a regime must do to avoid collapse, is well-demonstrated. Does the UK regime lack the necessary will in the face of mass protest, violent or not, as well? We cannot know unless and until there are such protests. But my purpose here is to analyze the current situation and what might happen

    https://mansworldmag.online/on-the-united-kingdom-and-1989-eastern-europe-as-harbinger/
    Clearly not British, probably American.

    British men were far more interested in Transfer Deadline Day yesterday than rioting.

    Silly season is over. Its autumn, the football season has restarted and the schools are back.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 55,761
    Scott_xP said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Gotta say, I didn't know Walter Reed had a golf course...

    All this speculation could be stopped if he got out and shouted at the press. He's never been camera shy.

    The longer this goes on the more likely it is that _something_ has happened. But what?


    And if Vance becomes El Presidente, what next?
    Stroke seems to be the current favourite
    A series of mini strokes followed by a bigger one has some support. He needs a few days recuperation to get to a point where his face is fit to face the media.

    His "golfing trip" to Virginia showed him getting in a vehicle (at some distance) with no media interaction. Much being made of an image with a gaping mouth - but he could just have been mid-sentence, so discount.

    However, the amateurish "he's playing golf, nothing to see here" spin operation fell apart when they offered up old images that included palm trees in the background - none of them in Virginia. So why try to dissemble?

    Melania seen wandering around the halls of Walter Reed hasn't been explained either.

    If there has been a health event, the reaction seems to be to buy time so they can deny it is of any consequence. Certainly no admission that it could impact on Trump's "strength".

    Whisper it, but we may be seeing the beginning of the end of the Trump era. Can Vance carry MAGA? Or does it (and Vance's power) whither with Trump.

    Something has gone on. Intriguing times.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 75,162
    MattW said:

    MattW said:

    This from Musky Baby made me laugh:

    https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1962328379513844150

    So he's now going after women's contraception.

    Hmmm. That's from "Raw Egg Nationalist", which is a "Man's World" type account from the quiver alongside Catturd, is it not (very roughly)?

    One of Elon's feeders.
    Quote from his "Man's World" substack:

    The ruling class in the UK is the first Western ruling class in a hundred years to face the same problem faced by Eastern European Communist regimes in 1989—the extreme dissatisfaction of much of the population, with a large percentage of that population having concluded their dissatisfaction can never be resolved through the parliamentary system, so-called democracy. (The last Western regime to face this problem was the Weimar Republic.) The Communist regimes fell in 1989 because they lacked the will to put down massive spontaneous public protests led almost exclusively by previously-unknown men.

    This had precedent—in the most spectacular example, thirty years before, in 1956 Hungary, the exact same thing happened, but there the regional hegemon, the Soviet Union, stepped in with the required violence, which it refused to do in 1989. Thus this path to regime collapse, as well as what a regime must do to avoid collapse, is well-demonstrated. Does the UK regime lack the necessary will in the face of mass protest, violent or not, as well? We cannot know unless and until there are such protests. But my purpose here is to analyze the current situation and what might happen

    https://mansworldmag.online/on-the-united-kingdom-and-1989-eastern-europe-as-harbinger/
    Blimey.

    The level of ignorance in that post is staggering.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 52,797

    MattW said:

    MattW said:

    This from Musky Baby made me laugh:

    https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1962328379513844150

    So he's now going after women's contraception.

    Hmmm. That's from "Raw Egg Nationalist", which is a "Man's World" type account from the quiver alongside Catturd, is it not (very roughly)?

    One of Elon's feeders.
    Quote from his "Man's World" substack:

    The ruling class in the UK is the first Western ruling class in a hundred years to face the same problem faced by Eastern European Communist regimes in 1989—the extreme dissatisfaction of much of the population, with a large percentage of that population having concluded their dissatisfaction can never be resolved through the parliamentary system, so-called democracy. (The last Western regime to face this problem was the Weimar Republic.) The Communist regimes fell in 1989 because they lacked the will to put down massive spontaneous public protests led almost exclusively by previously-unknown men.

    This had precedent—in the most spectacular example, thirty years before, in 1956 Hungary, the exact same thing happened, but there the regional hegemon, the Soviet Union, stepped in with the required violence, which it refused to do in 1989. Thus this path to regime collapse, as well as what a regime must do to avoid collapse, is well-demonstrated. Does the UK regime lack the necessary will in the face of mass protest, violent or not, as well? We cannot know unless and until there are such protests. But my purpose here is to analyze the current situation and what might happen

    https://mansworldmag.online/on-the-united-kingdom-and-1989-eastern-europe-as-harbinger/
    Clearly not British, probably American.

    British men were far more interested in Transfer Deadline Day yesterday than rioting.

    Silly season is over. Its autumn, the football season has restarted and the schools are back.
    A couple of thousand "concerned parents" is the most that could be turned out in dozens of demonstrations, and equal numbers of counter demonstrators. It's hardly "massive spontaneous public demonstrations".

    It seems like Social Media feeding on itself, talking up a crisis that simply isn't there. The real world is a different place.
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 62,876
    Good morning, everyone.
    Foxy said:

    MattW said:

    MattW said:

    This from Musky Baby made me laugh:

    https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1962328379513844150

    So he's now going after women's contraception.

    Hmmm. That's from "Raw Egg Nationalist", which is a "Man's World" type account from the quiver alongside Catturd, is it not (very roughly)?

    One of Elon's feeders.
    Quote from his "Man's World" substack:

    The ruling class in the UK is the first Western ruling class in a hundred years to face the same problem faced by Eastern European Communist regimes in 1989—the extreme dissatisfaction of much of the population, with a large percentage of that population having concluded their dissatisfaction can never be resolved through the parliamentary system, so-called democracy. (The last Western regime to face this problem was the Weimar Republic.) The Communist regimes fell in 1989 because they lacked the will to put down massive spontaneous public protests led almost exclusively by previously-unknown men.

    This had precedent—in the most spectacular example, thirty years before, in 1956 Hungary, the exact same thing happened, but there the regional hegemon, the Soviet Union, stepped in with the required violence, which it refused to do in 1989. Thus this path to regime collapse, as well as what a regime must do to avoid collapse, is well-demonstrated. Does the UK regime lack the necessary will in the face of mass protest, violent or not, as well? We cannot know unless and until there are such protests. But my purpose here is to analyze the current situation and what might happen

    https://mansworldmag.online/on-the-united-kingdom-and-1989-eastern-europe-as-harbinger/
    Clearly not British, probably American.

    British men were far more interested in Transfer Deadline Day yesterday than rioting.

    Silly season is over. Its autumn, the football season has restarted and the schools are back.
    A couple of thousand "concerned parents" is the most that could be turned out in dozens of demonstrations, and equal numbers of counter demonstrators. It's hardly "massive spontaneous public demonstrations".

    It seems like Social Media feeding on itself, talking up a crisis that simply isn't there. The real world is a different place.
    Dr. Foxy, worth remembering the London-based media managed to create a localised and brief petrol crisis when a couple of stations ran out at the same time. Reporting led to panic buying, leading to genuine (temporary) shortages.

    I'm not saying the same will happen here, but the media (including social) can often create as much as reflect circumstances.
  • StuartinromfordStuartinromford Posts: 19,614

    MattW said:

    MattW said:

    This from Musky Baby made me laugh:

    https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1962328379513844150

    So he's now going after women's contraception.

    Hmmm. That's from "Raw Egg Nationalist", which is a "Man's World" type account from the quiver alongside Catturd, is it not (very roughly)?

    One of Elon's feeders.
    Quote from his "Man's World" substack:

    The ruling class in the UK is the first Western ruling class in a hundred years to face the same problem faced by Eastern European Communist regimes in 1989—the extreme dissatisfaction of much of the population, with a large percentage of that population having concluded their dissatisfaction can never be resolved through the parliamentary system, so-called democracy. (The last Western regime to face this problem was the Weimar Republic.) The Communist regimes fell in 1989 because they lacked the will to put down massive spontaneous public protests led almost exclusively by previously-unknown men.

    This had precedent—in the most spectacular example, thirty years before, in 1956 Hungary, the exact same thing happened, but there the regional hegemon, the Soviet Union, stepped in with the required violence, which it refused to do in 1989. Thus this path to regime collapse, as well as what a regime must do to avoid collapse, is well-demonstrated. Does the UK regime lack the necessary will in the face of mass protest, violent or not, as well? We cannot know unless and until there are such protests. But my purpose here is to analyze the current situation and what might happen

    https://mansworldmag.online/on-the-united-kingdom-and-1989-eastern-europe-as-harbinger/
    Clearly not British, probably American.

    British men were far more interested in Transfer Deadline Day yesterday than rioting.

    Silly season is over. Its autumn, the football season has restarted and the schools are back.
    Indicative of the strange inorganic dynamics of this whole thing, though.

    The protests have been real, but relatively small. Most of them had fewer people and less noise than Gosport v Basingstoke in the FA Cup on Saturday. Graffiti and fly posting are what fringe organisations have always done to seem bigger than they are. Social media now does much the same.

    And yet, it's been puffed up by various bits of the elite. Some of that is the media still needing to fill pages/airtime with a reduced staff. Some of it is local and national government too afraid to call it out.

    And the worst of it is people who have done very well indeed out of the last few decades, but still want the fights. Like children in a 1970s playground chanting "fight fight fight", wanting the punch-up but not expecting to get punched themselves.
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 46,743

    MattW said:

    MattW said:

    This from Musky Baby made me laugh:

    https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1962328379513844150

    So he's now going after women's contraception.

    Hmmm. That's from "Raw Egg Nationalist", which is a "Man's World" type account from the quiver alongside Catturd, is it not (very roughly)?

    One of Elon's feeders.
    Quote from his "Man's World" substack:

    The ruling class in the UK is the first Western ruling class in a hundred years to face the same problem faced by Eastern European Communist regimes in 1989—the extreme dissatisfaction of much of the population, with a large percentage of that population having concluded their dissatisfaction can never be resolved through the parliamentary system, so-called democracy. (The last Western regime to face this problem was the Weimar Republic.) The Communist regimes fell in 1989 because they lacked the will to put down massive spontaneous public protests led almost exclusively by previously-unknown men.

    This had precedent—in the most spectacular example, thirty years before, in 1956 Hungary, the exact same thing happened, but there the regional hegemon, the Soviet Union, stepped in with the required violence, which it refused to do in 1989. Thus this path to regime collapse, as well as what a regime must do to avoid collapse, is well-demonstrated. Does the UK regime lack the necessary will in the face of mass protest, violent or not, as well? We cannot know unless and until there are such protests. But my purpose here is to analyze the current situation and what might happen

    https://mansworldmag.online/on-the-united-kingdom-and-1989-eastern-europe-as-harbinger/
    Clearly not British, probably American.

    British men were far more interested in Transfer Deadline Day yesterday than rioting.

    Silly season is over. Its autumn, the football season has restarted and the schools are back.
    Indicative of the strange inorganic dynamics of this whole thing, though.

    The protests have been real, but relatively small. Most of them had fewer people and less noise than Gosport v Basingstoke in the FA Cup on Saturday. Graffiti and fly posting are what fringe organisations have always done to seem bigger than they are. Social media now does much the same.

    And yet, it's been puffed up by various bits of the elite. Some of that is the media still needing to fill pages/airtime with a reduced staff. Some of it is local and national government too afraid to call it out.

    And the worst of it is people who have done very well indeed out of the last few decades, but still want the fights. Like children in a 1970s playground chanting "fight fight fight", wanting the punch-up but not expecting to get punched themselves.
    Then there are the people who have a larger agenda of their own - not all of them in this country, and not all of them even British. Elon Musk being one.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 56,653
    DavidL said:

    DavidL said:

    On more important matters our 30 year gilt rates reach a 27 year high of 5.64% today. The consequences for Reeves' budget are horrendous as, of course, they are for our future wellbeing. We are simply becoming a worse and worse risk. We have incompetent and delusional leadership which is incapable of delivering the most pitiful cuts by a party that are frankly insane as well as stupid.

    It is a race to the bottom with France. Which country will crash first? France basically doesn't have a government. They do not have the ability to cut their deficit just as we do not. Their borrowing as a share of GDP exceeds even ours. Both countries are in terrible trouble. One pretends to have a government. Both have electorates who are capable of believing 6 impossible things before breakfast.

    Cuts are not the problem. It's lack of growth and the systematic selling of any national assets not nailed down so that profits and wealth flow abroad rather than circulating round the British economy. Everything from utilities to football clubs sends money out of the country.
    This is the price of running a trade deficit for nearly 30 years. To balance the books we sell assets to the same value as the deficit every year. If you want this to stop we need to reduce consumption, increase investment, probably devalue and export more. It really is as simple as that but the electorate and our political class would rather put their fingers in their ears and then lament the inevitable consequences.
    Instead we have Ed Miliband, who says we should stop producing and taxing fossil fuels, and import them instead.
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 32,517

    Scott_xP said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Gotta say, I didn't know Walter Reed had a golf course...

    All this speculation could be stopped if he got out and shouted at the press. He's never been camera shy.

    The longer this goes on the more likely it is that _something_ has happened. But what?


    And if Vance becomes El Presidente, what next?
    Stroke seems to be the current favourite
    A series of mini strokes followed by a bigger one has some support. He needs a few days recuperation to get to a point where his face is fit to face the media.

    His "golfing trip" to Virginia showed him getting in a vehicle (at some distance) with no media interaction. Much being made of an image with a gaping mouth - but he could just have been mid-sentence, so discount.

    However, the amateurish "he's playing golf, nothing to see here" spin operation fell apart when they offered up old images that included palm trees in the background - none of them in Virginia. So why try to dissemble?

    Melania seen wandering around the halls of Walter Reed hasn't been explained either.

    If there has been a health event, the reaction seems to be to buy time so they can deny it is of any consequence. Certainly no admission that it could impact on Trump's "strength".

    Whisper it, but we may be seeing the beginning of the end of the Trump era. Can Vance carry MAGA? Or does it (and Vance's power) whither with Trump.

    Something has gone on. Intriguing times.
    There has been evidence for some time of Trump's mild cognitive decline (eg dropping the treaty with Starmer, and mixing up names) but the only new event there is his staggering from side to side on the red carpet but that might be explained by the President not having been told which way to go.

    Blue lips and swollen ankles (which are the new symptoms) look more like heart than brain but IANAdoc.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 61,281
    I do wonder what Gwynne Shotwell thinks of Elon's views that a women's place is in the home.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 61,281

    Good morning, everyone.

    Foxy said:

    MattW said:

    MattW said:

    This from Musky Baby made me laugh:

    https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1962328379513844150

    So he's now going after women's contraception.

    Hmmm. That's from "Raw Egg Nationalist", which is a "Man's World" type account from the quiver alongside Catturd, is it not (very roughly)?

    One of Elon's feeders.
    Quote from his "Man's World" substack:

    The ruling class in the UK is the first Western ruling class in a hundred years to face the same problem faced by Eastern European Communist regimes in 1989—the extreme dissatisfaction of much of the population, with a large percentage of that population having concluded their dissatisfaction can never be resolved through the parliamentary system, so-called democracy. (The last Western regime to face this problem was the Weimar Republic.) The Communist regimes fell in 1989 because they lacked the will to put down massive spontaneous public protests led almost exclusively by previously-unknown men.

    This had precedent—in the most spectacular example, thirty years before, in 1956 Hungary, the exact same thing happened, but there the regional hegemon, the Soviet Union, stepped in with the required violence, which it refused to do in 1989. Thus this path to regime collapse, as well as what a regime must do to avoid collapse, is well-demonstrated. Does the UK regime lack the necessary will in the face of mass protest, violent or not, as well? We cannot know unless and until there are such protests. But my purpose here is to analyze the current situation and what might happen

    https://mansworldmag.online/on-the-united-kingdom-and-1989-eastern-europe-as-harbinger/
    Clearly not British, probably American.

    British men were far more interested in Transfer Deadline Day yesterday than rioting.

    Silly season is over. Its autumn, the football season has restarted and the schools are back.
    A couple of thousand "concerned parents" is the most that could be turned out in dozens of demonstrations, and equal numbers of counter demonstrators. It's hardly "massive spontaneous public demonstrations".

    It seems like Social Media feeding on itself, talking up a crisis that simply isn't there. The real world is a different place.
    Dr. Foxy, worth remembering the London-based media managed to create a localised and brief petrol crisis when a couple of stations ran out at the same time. Reporting led to panic buying, leading to genuine (temporary) shortages.

    I'm not saying the same will happen here, but the media (including social) can often create as much as reflect circumstances.
    *cough* Peston *cough*
  • StuartinromfordStuartinromford Posts: 19,614
    rcs1000 said:

    I do wonder what Gwynne Shotwell thinks of Elon's views that a women's place is in the home.

    Remember the "very rich people" exemption. There's always a vrp exemption, it's just that Elon is too busy to mention it every time.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 61,281

    rcs1000 said:

    I do wonder what Gwynne Shotwell thinks of Elon's views that a women's place is in the home.

    Remember the "very rich people" exemption. There's always a vrp exemption, it's just that Elon is too busy to mention it every time.
    A woman's place is in the home, unless I - a Very Important Person - deems otherwise of a specific woman.

    It's almost like he thinks there are two classes of human beings: those with agency, and those without.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 64,787

    MattW said:

    MattW said:

    This from Musky Baby made me laugh:

    https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1962328379513844150

    So he's now going after women's contraception.

    Hmmm. That's from "Raw Egg Nationalist", which is a "Man's World" type account from the quiver alongside Catturd, is it not (very roughly)?

    One of Elon's feeders.
    Quote from his "Man's World" substack:

    The ruling class in the UK is the first Western ruling class in a hundred years to face the same problem faced by Eastern European Communist regimes in 1989—the extreme dissatisfaction of much of the population, with a large percentage of that population having concluded their dissatisfaction can never be resolved through the parliamentary system, so-called democracy. (The last Western regime to face this problem was the Weimar Republic.) The Communist regimes fell in 1989 because they lacked the will to put down massive spontaneous public protests led almost exclusively by previously-unknown men.

    This had precedent—in the most spectacular example, thirty years before, in 1956 Hungary, the exact same thing happened, but there the regional hegemon, the Soviet Union, stepped in with the required violence, which it refused to do in 1989. Thus this path to regime collapse, as well as what a regime must do to avoid collapse, is well-demonstrated. Does the UK regime lack the necessary will in the face of mass protest, violent or not, as well? We cannot know unless and until there are such protests. But my purpose here is to analyze the current situation and what might happen

    https://mansworldmag.online/on-the-united-kingdom-and-1989-eastern-europe-as-harbinger/
    Clearly not British, probably American.

    British men were far more interested in Transfer Deadline Day yesterday than rioting.

    Silly season is over. Its autumn, the football season has restarted and the schools are back.
    Indicative of the strange inorganic dynamics of this whole thing, though.

    The protests have been real, but relatively small. Most of them had fewer people and less noise than Gosport v Basingstoke in the FA Cup on Saturday. Graffiti and fly posting are what fringe organisations have always done to seem bigger than they are. Social media now does much the same.

    And yet, it's been puffed up by various bits of the elite. Some of that is the media still needing to fill pages/airtime with a reduced staff. Some of it is local and national government too afraid to call it out.

    And the worst of it is people who have done very well indeed out of the last few decades, but still want the fights. Like children in a 1970s playground chanting "fight fight fight", wanting the punch-up but not expecting to get punched themselves.
    The protests are the visible fringe of something vastly larger - but a fringe

    For the “vastly larger” see the recent polling of The Reform Party, passim

    And Gruss Gott from a grey and rainy Austria. It’s good to be going home
  • MattWMattW Posts: 29,517
    edited 6:34AM
    An interesting 20 minute vid from my favourite shipping channel about USA moves with respect to Venezuela, moving a fleet about 1/4 the size of the RN down there to "monitor", and background. Plus strange moves around oil production - TLDR having undermined his Canadian relationship Trump needs heavy oil for Texas refineries from somewhere else.

    I'd say it's Trump's next war he will be starting, then ending - in his "I am the biggest cowboy in the Wild West" foreign policy.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_htR9uQBNS8
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 62,876
    MattW said:

    An interesting 20 minute vid from my favourite shipping channel about USA moves with respect to Venezuela, moving a fleet about 1/4 the size of the RN down there to "monitor", and background. Plus strange moves around oil production - TLDR having undermined his Canadian relationship Trump needs heavy oil for Texas refineries from somewhere else.

    I'd say it's Trump's next war he will be starting, then ending - in his "I am the biggest cowboy in the Wild West" foreign policy.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_htR9uQBNS8

    Venezuela's loony dictator had been making aggressive noises about invading next door (Guyana, I think) after that country discovered a ton of oil offshore. American and European interests are very much against Venezuela squandering yet more oil, but I haven't heard much about it for quite a while.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 61,281
    MattW said:

    An interesting 20 minute vid from my favourite shipping channel about USA moves with respect to Venezuela, moving a fleet about 1/4 the size of the RN down there to "monitor", and background. Plus strange moves around oil production - TLDR having undermined his Canadian relationship Trump needs heavy oil for Texas refineries from somewhere else.

    I'd say it's Trump's next war he will be starting, then ending - in his "I am the biggest cowboy in the Wild West" foreign policy.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_htR9uQBNS8

    Ah hem: I've talked about the heavy oil and the Gulf Refining complex for some time.

    And now i'm off to bed.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 123,507

    NEW THREAD

  • DopermeanDopermean Posts: 1,471

    Scott_xP said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Gotta say, I didn't know Walter Reed had a golf course...

    All this speculation could be stopped if he got out and shouted at the press. He's never been camera shy.

    The longer this goes on the more likely it is that _something_ has happened. But what?


    And if Vance becomes El Presidente, what next?
    Stroke seems to be the current favourite
    A series of mini strokes followed by a bigger one has some support. He needs a few days recuperation to get to a point where his face is fit to face the media.

    His "golfing trip" to Virginia showed him getting in a vehicle (at some distance) with no media interaction. Much being made of an image with a gaping mouth - but he could just have been mid-sentence, so discount.

    However, the amateurish "he's playing golf, nothing to see here" spin operation fell apart when they offered up old images that included palm trees in the background - none of them in Virginia. So why try to dissemble?

    Melania seen wandering around the halls of Walter Reed hasn't been explained either.

    If there has been a health event, the reaction seems to be to buy time so they can deny it is of any consequence. Certainly no admission that it could impact on Trump's "strength".

    Whisper it, but we may be seeing the beginning of the end of the Trump era. Can Vance carry MAGA? Or does it (and Vance's power) whither with Trump.

    Something has gone on. Intriguing times.
    There has been evidence for some time of Trump's mild cognitive decline (eg dropping the treaty with Starmer, and mixing up names) but the only new event there is his staggering from side to side on the red carpet but that might be explained by the President not having been told which way to go.

    Blue lips and swollen ankles (which are the new symptoms) look more like heart than brain but IANAdoc.
    Would this explain the 40 minute musical interlude during the campaign?
    I think this is just hope casting,I can't see the world being that lucky, even if he died I think they'd just embalm him and carry on.
  • MattWMattW Posts: 29,517
    ydoethur said:

    MattW said:

    MattW said:

    This from Musky Baby made me laugh:

    https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1962328379513844150

    So he's now going after women's contraception.

    Hmmm. That's from "Raw Egg Nationalist", which is a "Man's World" type account from the quiver alongside Catturd, is it not (very roughly)?

    One of Elon's feeders.
    Quote from his "Man's World" substack:

    The ruling class in the UK is the first Western ruling class in a hundred years to face the same problem faced by Eastern European Communist regimes in 1989—the extreme dissatisfaction of much of the population, with a large percentage of that population having concluded their dissatisfaction can never be resolved through the parliamentary system, so-called democracy. (The last Western regime to face this problem was the Weimar Republic.) The Communist regimes fell in 1989 because they lacked the will to put down massive spontaneous public protests led almost exclusively by previously-unknown men.

    This had precedent—in the most spectacular example, thirty years before, in 1956 Hungary, the exact same thing happened, but there the regional hegemon, the Soviet Union, stepped in with the required violence, which it refused to do in 1989. Thus this path to regime collapse, as well as what a regime must do to avoid collapse, is well-demonstrated. Does the UK regime lack the necessary will in the face of mass protest, violent or not, as well? We cannot know unless and until there are such protests. But my purpose here is to analyze the current situation and what might happen

    https://mansworldmag.online/on-the-united-kingdom-and-1989-eastern-europe-as-harbinger/
    Blimey.

    The level of ignorance in that post is staggering.
    We can't go too far with conclusions from such a narrow sample, but I think that type of knowledge / assessment feeds into what we hear from Musk, and Maga. Perhaps also feeding into some of the views we get from our own Nationalist movement - especially at the young or superficial segments.
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 25,682
    MattW said:

    viewcode said:

    MattW said:

    Let me repeat a question from the other day.

    Does anyone have news of @Pagan2 ?

    (I'm aware that he is banned, but he also reported a cancer.)

    I do not. Have you tried PM'ing them via your account?
    I've dropped him an email; given that he is currently banned that is I think more likely to make it through than a PM.
    Good idea @MattW . Let us know if they're alright.
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