Skip to content

This may become a defining image/legacy of the Trump/Putin summit – politicalbetting.com

135

Comments

  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 74,924

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/aug/18/protester-arrested-wearing-plasticine-action-t-shirt-palestine-gaza-protest

    Will the government now proscribe Plasticine Action, on the basis that could morph into something more sinister?

    A Play-D'OH moment!
    He was on quite the wrong tac.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 74,924
    Sandpit said:

    Do American “Journalists” understand just how badly they come across to the rest of the world, when literally hundreds of millions of people are watching?

    No.
  • RogerRoger Posts: 20,876

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/aug/18/protester-arrested-wearing-plasticine-action-t-shirt-palestine-gaza-protest

    Will the government now proscribe Plasticine Action, on the basis that could morph into something more sinister?

    Short and to the point.......

    https://www.youtube.com/shorts/TKnBIW5UQKQ
  • solarflaresolarflare Posts: 4,120

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/aug/18/protester-arrested-wearing-plasticine-action-t-shirt-palestine-gaza-protest

    Will the government now proscribe Plasticine Action, on the basis that could morph into something more sinister?

    Is anyone willing to test the likelihood of arrest if your T-shirt proclaims your support for Palestine Acton?
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 86,882
    Sandpit said:

    Do American “Journalists” understand just how badly they come across to the rest of the world, when literally hundreds of millions of people are watching?

    Are they doing their usual screaming over the top of one another?
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 56,161

    Sandpit said:

    kinabalu said:

    kinabalu said:

    Sandpit said:

    Britiain’s most famous farmer is having a go at Ed Miliband.

    https://x.com/clarksonsfarm1/status/1957419985246015511

    The UK’s net zero plan targets zero emissions by 2050, despite its <1% global emissions compared to China’s >30%. I can’t help but critique the economic cost to agriculture and industry. Subsidies must balance sustainability and rural livelihoods.

    What are your thoughts?

    Ed should come back with his thoughts on sports cars and 1970s rock.
    Miliband does not seem like an expert on energy either.
    I'll take him over Jeremy Clarkson.
    Whatever your thoughts on Clarkson he has done more for farming in this country than a century of government ministers. Of course a lot of the time he is playing a role on camera. But I think he genuinely cares about his farm, about farming and about those around him.

    Miliband is not a realist. He inhabits a dream like world at some distance from reality. There is every reason to embrace green technology and build a better world. But there is also the reality that some energy policies are nonsense, such as paying wind farm owners NOT to generate power. We ought to be benefitting from the huge increases in green energy yet somehow in the UK was are still paying the highest prices. What's gone wrong?
    You only have to see the reaction of farmers to Clarkson’s show. It’s the best thing that’s happened to rural communities for decades.

    Someone needs to get it into SirKeir and Miliband’s heads that economic growth is inversely proportional to energy prices, pretty much more so than any other single factor. Will it take Ineos closing their Grangemouth factory for them to wake up - or will they think of the factory closing as a positive development, even if the net result is the same production outsourced overseas where there’s fewer carbon targets?
    They will see the closing of Grangemouth as a positive development as it will make Scotland more dependent on England.
    The closure of Grangemouth is a disaster for Scotland and a serious problem for the rest of the UK. It is a result of unbelievably stupid and naïve policies pretending that we are somehow contributing to the defeat of global warming by burning oil from the Middle East instead of the North Sea. That the party who used to scream "Its Scotland's Oil" is somehow signed up for this self inflicted harm shows you how far the looking glass we have come.

    It honestly makes me want to scream.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 39,646
    The Oval Office meeting went much better than last time

    JD Vance barely spoke
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 52,639

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/aug/18/protester-arrested-wearing-plasticine-action-t-shirt-palestine-gaza-protest

    Will the government now proscribe Plasticine Action, on the basis that could morph into something more sinister?

    You would have to be an Aardman to wear that in public.

  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 129,602
    I suspect the Russians used the US flag in a hope the Ukrainians would hit it and infuriate Trump
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 99,281
    Sandpit said:

    Do American “Journalists” understand just how badly they come across to the rest of the world, when literally hundreds of millions of people are watching?

    I imagine it is not a major concern when they have to please their increasingly radical viewers, on both left and right.

    Don't forget about how Fox freaked out when their viewers got mad that they didn't fully buy into election stealing claims, tried to win them back, and it ended up costing them hundreds of millions in legal settlements. The messages between executives was blatant, they were angry at any actual journalism which did not deliver the message their viewers wanted to hear, as it was bad for business.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 56,567

    Sandpit said:

    Do American “Journalists” understand just how badly they come across to the rest of the world, when literally hundreds of millions of people are watching?

    Are they doing their usual screaming over the top of one another?
    Yes, and then asking the most inane and domestically partisan questions, at an international summit.
  • solarflaresolarflare Posts: 4,120
    Scott_xP said:

    The Oval Office meeting went much better than last time

    JD Vance barely spoke

    Still traumatised by Kilmarnock.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 56,161
    edited August 18

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/aug/18/protester-arrested-wearing-plasticine-action-t-shirt-palestine-gaza-protest

    Will the government now proscribe Plasticine Action, on the basis that could morph into something more sinister?

    A Play-D'OH moment!
    The arrests of Wallace and Gromit are surely imminent. Charges under the Terrorism Act 2006 will be pending.
  • OmniumOmnium Posts: 11,859
    Could we get Sumi Somaskanda to present Newsnight? (Obviously she's very pretty, but she's also very good) We need good journalists in the UK political space.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 55,620
    DavidL said:

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/aug/18/protester-arrested-wearing-plasticine-action-t-shirt-palestine-gaza-protest

    Will the government now proscribe Plasticine Action, on the basis that could morph into something more sinister?

    A Play-D'OH moment!
    The arrests of Wallace and Gromit are surely imminent. Chareges under the Terrorism Act 2006 will be pending.
    "It's the WRONG T-SHIRT, Gromit!!!"
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 99,281
    Scott_xP said:

    The Oval Office meeting went much better than last time

    JD Vance barely spoke

    The funniest outcome from that was one commentator who defended Zelensky as they have long been pro-Ukrainian, but failed to remember their audience had leaned increasingly right over the years, and so had to humiliatingly claim to have reflected on it and actually Trump and Vance were totally right all along to talk and act the way they did. It was so unconvincing, and a great example of how any type of commentator is vulnerable to moulding their views to keep attention or praise from their main audience.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 55,620
    Omnium said:

    Could we get Sumi Somaskanda to present Newsnight? (Obviously she's very pretty, but she's also very good) We need good journalists in the UK political space.

    She looks OK for an Indian lady :)
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 61,091

    Donald Trump said a ceasefire was not necessary for peace in Ukraine, saying a deal could be worked out while the two countries are at war.

    “I don’t think you need a ceasefire. You know, if you look at the six deals that I settled this year, they were all at war, I didn’t do any ceasefires,” the US president said alongside Mr Zelensky.

    Trying to work out these 6 wars he has ended.

    The War of the Roses. The War of the Spanish Succession. The War to end all Wars. The Mother of all Wars.

    And probably a few others.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 56,161

    Scott_xP said:

    The Oval Office meeting went much better than last time

    JD Vance barely spoke

    Still traumatised by Kilmarnock.
    In fairness, I haven't been there for more than a year and the PTSD symptoms are still present.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 80,350
    The Ukrainian new drone looks an awful lot like a prototype bring hawked around by a small UK outfit.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 67,389
    rcs1000 said:

    Fishing said:

    I am in Jajce in the north-west of Bosnia at the moment. It is a pleasant, small, mountain town of around 7,000, with a good-looking waterfall, a historic old town and a semi-ruined fortress. But the moment I started researching its history, I uncovered the horrors it suffered in the Bosnian War and that really changed how I saw it. For a start, its population was 13,500 in 1991, so it has fallen by almost half. But the population's composition has changed dramatically as well: the Serbian population has collapsed from 28% in 1991 to barely 2%, (probably more since 16% of the population identified as Yugoslav in 1991, which is no longer a category, and they were probably mostly Serbs) while the Croat proportion has soared from 14% to 46% and the Bosnian Muslim proportion has remained steady. Don't forget that these are proportions of a collapsing total.

    You can see the reality behind these horrifying statistics in the huge memorials all over the town to the victims of that war - hundreds or thousands of names of all ages with death dates of 1992-95. I also read about the 1992 exodus of around 40,000 Muslim and Croat civilians from the town (mostly refugees from elsewhere) when it looked like the town was about to fall to the Serbs under Serbian sniping. Of course when the Croats retook the town the Serbs had to leave. All the religious buildings that had survived centuries of conflict, two world wars and forty years of Communism were destroyed.

    Why do I bring this up, given it was just one of thousands of incidents of ethnic cleansing during the last century? It's I think a particularly good example of the reality behind terms like "population exchange" which Trump and Netanyahu glibly proposed for Gaza, or which Putin wants for parts of Ukraine. That the area still hasn't recovered decades later, still being full of abandoned houses and with an economy entirely dependent on tourism, surely shows that even the "victors" don't really win. And the cemeteries and the memorials all around town show exactly what happens to the losers.

    Comment of the day.
    And a reminder that the first world war never quite ended.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 80,350
    Nigelb said:

    The Ukrainian new drone looks an awful lot like a prototype bring hawked around by a small UK outfit.

    Curiously similar specs.
    https://x.com/UKikaski/status/1957168846109913586
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 67,389
    Mail in ballots keeping Epstein off X for another few hours.

    Job done by Trump 2.0 team.

  • OmniumOmnium Posts: 11,859

    Omnium said:

    Could we get Sumi Somaskanda to present Newsnight? (Obviously she's very pretty, but she's also very good) We need good journalists in the UK political space.

    She looks OK for an Indian lady :)
    Oh I'd sell my soul. The glass beads though aren't her future. She really is very good as a journalist.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 67,389

    Freddie Sayers
    @freddiesayers

    "Republic of the Condo" is a particularly Trumpian freudian slip 😂
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 56,567
    Passing between the towns of Irwin and Bucha on the train, with sad memories of when they were two of the most famous small towns in the world just over three years ago.
  • solarflaresolarflare Posts: 4,120
    This is the worst best man's speech I've heard, Donald.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 39,646

    This is the worst best man's speech I've heard, Donald.

    @mikeysmith

    Eesh. As 'family photos' go, that one was a bit 'Dad's just revealed he has a secret second family during Christmas Dinner'.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 55,620
    "SIX WARS" reminds me of C-3PO in Star Wars (oft repeated!): "I am fluent in over SIX MILLION forms of communication"
  • solarflaresolarflare Posts: 4,120

    "SIX WARS" reminds me of C-3PO in Star Wars (oft repeated!): "I am fluent in over SIX MILLION forms of communication"

    Star Wars: Coalition Of The Willing.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 55,620
    Mr Super Keir!
  • nico67nico67 Posts: 5,791
    Putin has accepted the US giving security guarantees as Trump told him not to worry as they have no intention of honouring them .

    Europe knows this as should most sentient beings and yet here we are .
  • solarflaresolarflare Posts: 4,120
    The Apprentice looks a bit different to how I remember it.
  • algarkirkalgarkirk Posts: 15,246
    edited August 18
    kle4 said:

    I don't want to be cynical about the apparently novel new 'bibliotherapy', but I am a little surprised we are having to relearn the idea that reading fiction can be relaxing, good for your mental health, and help you deal with real world issues by taking lessons from it.

    Was that something society no longer realised you could do with books?

    I just was blown away," Russell recalls. Learning from the lessons and mistakes of fictional characters helped her process what she was going through and made her feel less alone. "It opened up something in me that needed to be opened and needed to heal," she says. ...

    While the benefits of self-help literature are well documented, advocates of fiction-based or "creative bibliotherapy" claim similar advantages. They argue that immersing oneself in rich, simulated worlds – often reflective of real-life experiences – can help readers process emotions, discover coping strategies, or simply provide momentary escape from their everyday woes.

    https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20250616-how-bibliotherapy-can-both-help-and-harm-your-mental-health

    Never too late to learn I suppose, and maybe those brought up digitally never had the chance. Currently on A Dance to the Music of Time, third time around, which gets better and better (it's either 2500 pages of posh gossip or the finest novel sequence of the 20th century - not much opinion in the middle). Now which fictional character who posts on PB is strangely reminiscent of Charles Stringham?
  • FF43FF43 Posts: 18,271
    Sandpit said:

    Britiain’s most famous farmer is having a go at Ed Miliband.

    https://x.com/clarksonsfarm1/status/1957419985246015511

    The UK’s net zero plan targets zero emissions by 2050, despite its <1% global emissions compared to China’s >30%. I can’t help but critique the economic cost to agriculture and industry. Subsidies must balance sustainability and rural livelihoods.

    What are your thoughts?

    My thoughts. Given China's population is twenty times the size of the UK, Clarkson doesn't do maths.
  • numbertwelvenumbertwelve Posts: 7,791
    Everyone at the White House looks thoroughly cheesed off.
  • MattWMattW Posts: 29,276
    nico67 said:

    Oh just STFU Trump .

    Why are these moronic reporters asking about mail in ballots .

    Are these the selected reporters who are in the WH press core?
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 56,161
    edited August 18
    FF43 said:

    Sandpit said:

    Britiain’s most famous farmer is having a go at Ed Miliband.

    https://x.com/clarksonsfarm1/status/1957419985246015511

    The UK’s net zero plan targets zero emissions by 2050, despite its <1% global emissions compared to China’s >30%. I can’t help but critique the economic cost to agriculture and industry. Subsidies must balance sustainability and rural livelihoods.

    What are your thoughts?

    My thoughts. Given China's population is twenty times the size of the UK, Clarkson doesn't do maths.
    Err the maths would indicate that China is producing more than 150% more emissions than the UK per UK population on that basis.

    What they need is an Ed Miliband so that they stop making things and import them from somewhere else instead. But I think they would just shoot him and invoice his family for the bullet.
  • RogerRoger Posts: 20,876
    I thought they were all pretty good includng Trump.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 55,620
    Roger said:

    I thought they were all pretty good includng Trump.

    SKS has by far the most annoying voice :lol:
  • MattWMattW Posts: 29,276
    kinabalu said:

    kle4 said:

    Taz said:

    ydoethur said:

    stodge said:

    nico67 said:

    The fxckwit reporter talking about the suit and now fellating Trump .

    Does Trump know there were no elections in Britain 1935-1945, because WW2 intervened?
    America had an election in 1944.
    The reporter was trying to make a thing of Ukraine holding no elections during wartime. He should learn a little British history.
    I don’t imagine MTG could handle two massive erections.

    But as we’re talking about her husband and Trump she doesn’t have to.
    I saw some tweets from someone called Laura Loomer making some rather risqué comments about MTG’s oral proclivities.

    😱😱😱😱
    Those two hate each other, I think they fell out over who could praise Trump the most and get attention for it.
    Loomer v MTG is hard to get invested in. They're both utterly delulu.
    They have to please the broligarchs.
  • OmniumOmnium Posts: 11,859
    DavidL said:

    FF43 said:

    Sandpit said:

    Britiain’s most famous farmer is having a go at Ed Miliband.

    https://x.com/clarksonsfarm1/status/1957419985246015511

    The UK’s net zero plan targets zero emissions by 2050, despite its <1% global emissions compared to China’s >30%. I can’t help but critique the economic cost to agriculture and industry. Subsidies must balance sustainability and rural livelihoods.

    What are your thoughts?

    My thoughts. Given China's population is twenty times the size of the UK, Clarkson doesn't do maths.
    Err the maths would indicate that China is producing more than 150% more emissions than the UK per UK population on that basis.

    What they need is an Ed Miliband so that they stop making things and import them from somewhere else instead. But I think they would just shoot him and invoice his family for the bullet.
    Still, exporting him seems a promising idea.
  • OllyTOllyT Posts: 5,054
    ydoethur said:

    The ashen-faces on Trump's inner circle coming out of the Alaska meeting makes you think: did Putin obliquely reference what he has on file if he doesn't get the deal he wants?

    It is actually quite difficult to imagine what they could have that is worse than what is already known.

    Financial fraud? New York has exposed it.

    Sexual shenanigans? Those who don't know how close Trump was to Epstein and what that meant is so stupid they ought to be President themselves.

    Mental incapacity? The sharks wave hello.

    Corruption? He appointed Pete Fucking Hegseth to a post.

    So what could they have? That he was a paid agent of the KGB? Frankly seems unlikely.
    Andrew Lownie's recent book on the odious Duke and Duchess of York alleges that Epstein sold incriminating tapes on key individuals to both the Russians and Israelis before being jailed. It would certainly explain Trump's total subservience to both Putin and Netanyahu but will the truth ever emerge, I doubt it.
  • BurgessianBurgessian Posts: 3,108
    algarkirk said:

    kle4 said:

    I don't want to be cynical about the apparently novel new 'bibliotherapy', but I am a little surprised we are having to relearn the idea that reading fiction can be relaxing, good for your mental health, and help you deal with real world issues by taking lessons from it.

    Was that something society no longer realised you could do with books?

    I just was blown away," Russell recalls. Learning from the lessons and mistakes of fictional characters helped her process what she was going through and made her feel less alone. "It opened up something in me that needed to be opened and needed to heal," she says. ...

    While the benefits of self-help literature are well documented, advocates of fiction-based or "creative bibliotherapy" claim similar advantages. They argue that immersing oneself in rich, simulated worlds – often reflective of real-life experiences – can help readers process emotions, discover coping strategies, or simply provide momentary escape from their everyday woes.

    https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20250616-how-bibliotherapy-can-both-help-and-harm-your-mental-health

    Never too late to learn I suppose, and maybe those brought up digitally never had the chance. Currently on A Dance to the Music of Time, third time around, which gets better and better (it's either 2500 pages of posh gossip or the finest novel sequence of the 20th century - not much opinion in the middle). Now which fictional character who posts on PB is strangely reminiscent of Charles Stringham?
    I've (only) read it twice, so far. It's a pretty cold-eyed look at how people operate, and how the world works. And how sheer ambition can get you to the top regardless of apparently disabling characteristics - Widmerpool is an immortal creation.
    In practice, it's a very addictive read. And greatly lauded by folk you wouldn't necessarily think would warm to a novel sequence by an Old Etonian with Tory inclinations such as Simon Barnes and Tariq Ali.
    My introduction to The Dance was a chance purchase of a second-hand copy of Temporary King (11th of the 12 volumes) which I picked up in a bookshop in Dunoon. Read it in a single sitting on a flight to Beijing. So impressed that I bought the entire series, beginning with A Question of Upbringing.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 36,990
    edited August 18
    We haven't had any opinion polls for what seems like ages. Need some now, lol.
  • MattWMattW Posts: 29,276
    Roger said:

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/aug/18/protester-arrested-wearing-plasticine-action-t-shirt-palestine-gaza-protest

    Will the government now proscribe Plasticine Action, on the basis that could morph into something more sinister?

    Short and to the point.......

    https://www.youtube.com/shorts/TKnBIW5UQKQ
    It's interesting that that is a Greenbelt Festival clip.

    I was half wondering about going for a day - this year's main event is over August Bank, and I haven't been for a loooong time.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 56,161
    Andy_JS said:

    We haven't had any opinion polls for what seems like ages. Need some now, lol.

    Well, if that's what you think....
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 56,567
    FF43 said:

    Sandpit said:

    Britiain’s most famous farmer is having a go at Ed Miliband.

    https://x.com/clarksonsfarm1/status/1957419985246015511

    The UK’s net zero plan targets zero emissions by 2050, despite its <1% global emissions compared to China’s >30%. I can’t help but critique the economic cost to agriculture and industry. Subsidies must balance sustainability and rural livelihoods.

    What are your thoughts?

    My thoughts. Given China's population is twenty times the size of the UK, Clarkson doesn't do maths.
    Well if China’s much poorer population is 20x that of the UK, and China’s carbon footprint is 30x of the UK, that we are doing really well and them badly when it comes to carbon targets. Sending our factories to China not only costs the government money in forgone taxes and unemployment benefits, but makes the carbon ‘gap’ between the two countries even worse.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 80,350
    algarkirk said:

    kle4 said:

    I don't want to be cynical about the apparently novel new 'bibliotherapy', but I am a little surprised we are having to relearn the idea that reading fiction can be relaxing, good for your mental health, and help you deal with real world issues by taking lessons from it.

    Was that something society no longer realised you could do with books?

    I just was blown away," Russell recalls. Learning from the lessons and mistakes of fictional characters helped her process what she was going through and made her feel less alone. "It opened up something in me that needed to be opened and needed to heal," she says. ...

    While the benefits of self-help literature are well documented, advocates of fiction-based or "creative bibliotherapy" claim similar advantages. They argue that immersing oneself in rich, simulated worlds – often reflective of real-life experiences – can help readers process emotions, discover coping strategies, or simply provide momentary escape from their everyday woes.

    https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20250616-how-bibliotherapy-can-both-help-and-harm-your-mental-health

    Never too late to learn I suppose, and maybe those brought up digitally never had the chance. Currently on A Dance to the Music of Time, third time around, which gets better and better (it's either 2500 pages of posh gossip or the finest novel sequence of the 20th century - not much opinion in the middle). Now which fictional character who posts on PB is strangely reminiscent of Charles Stringham?
    Who then is our Widmerpool ?

    And who X Trapnel ?
  • StillWatersStillWaters Posts: 10,625

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/aug/18/protester-arrested-wearing-plasticine-action-t-shirt-palestine-gaza-protest

    Will the government now proscribe Plasticine Action, on the basis that could morph into something more sinister?

    Show some hart for their plight!
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 39,646
    @georgewbarros

    The Kremlin is negatively reacting to the US proposal that Ukraine receive "Article V-like" security guarantees.

    Russian Foreign Ministry "categorically rejects" NATO countries sending a military contingents to Ukraine.

    https://x.com/georgewbarros/status/1957525001739141290
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 36,990
    Interesting facts.

    In the year 2000 China's population was around 21.5 times that of the UK.

    In 2025 China's population is around 20.3 times that of the UK.
  • Jim_MillerJim_Miller Posts: 3,463
    I was half hoping Zelenskyy would show up in a top hat -- even though I know that wouldn't have been diplomatic.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 39,646

    I was half hoping Zelenskyy would show up in a top hat -- even though I know that wouldn't have been diplomatic.

    Cousin Vinny
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 36,990
    DavidL said:

    Andy_JS said:

    We haven't had any opinion polls for what seems like ages. Need some now, lol.

    Well, if that's what you think....
    I'm a poll junkie.
  • ohnotnowohnotnow Posts: 5,221
    The cost of buying your own place is really getting out of hand.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ckgjy4d01jwo

    Soho House bought for £2bn as Ashton Kutcher joins board
  • eekeek Posts: 30,975
    ohnotnow said:

    The cost of buying your own place is really getting out of hand.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ckgjy4d01jwo

    Soho House bought for £2bn as Ashton Kutcher joins board

    It's lost a 1/3 of it's 2021 value...
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 56,567
    37 Russian drones again in Ukraine. Someone doesn’t want peace.

    https://x.com/bohuslavskakate/status/1957528131713237378
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 56,567
    37 Russian drones again in Ukraine. Someone doesn’t want peace.

    https://x.com/bohuslavskakate/status/1957528131713237378
  • ohnotnowohnotnow Posts: 5,221

    Mr Super Keir!

    I asked GPT to make an appropriate image. And now I feel it's slighting our great leader.


  • boulayboulay Posts: 6,883

    I was half hoping Zelenskyy would show up in a top hat -- even though I know that wouldn't have been diplomatic.

    One of these:


  • algarkirkalgarkirk Posts: 15,246
    edited August 18
    Nigelb said:

    algarkirk said:

    kle4 said:

    I don't want to be cynical about the apparently novel new 'bibliotherapy', but I am a little surprised we are having to relearn the idea that reading fiction can be relaxing, good for your mental health, and help you deal with real world issues by taking lessons from it.

    Was that something society no longer realised you could do with books?

    I just was blown away," Russell recalls. Learning from the lessons and mistakes of fictional characters helped her process what she was going through and made her feel less alone. "It opened up something in me that needed to be opened and needed to heal," she says. ...

    While the benefits of self-help literature are well documented, advocates of fiction-based or "creative bibliotherapy" claim similar advantages. They argue that immersing oneself in rich, simulated worlds – often reflective of real-life experiences – can help readers process emotions, discover coping strategies, or simply provide momentary escape from their everyday woes.

    https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20250616-how-bibliotherapy-can-both-help-and-harm-your-mental-health

    Never too late to learn I suppose, and maybe those brought up digitally never had the chance. Currently on A Dance to the Music of Time, third time around, which gets better and better (it's either 2500 pages of posh gossip or the finest novel sequence of the 20th century - not much opinion in the middle). Now which fictional character who posts on PB is strangely reminiscent of Charles Stringham?
    Who then is our Widmerpool ?

    And who X Trapnel ?
    The Widmerpool question is a bit too dark to ask. It's like asking who is Gollum.

    New game?
    Akworth, Budd, Moreland, Deacon, Templer, Uncle Giles, Tolland, Mornington Crescent.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 39,646
    @YourAnonCentral

    European leaders take the day to babysit the US president

    https://x.com/YourAnonCentral/status/1957519809333325982
  • numbertwelvenumbertwelve Posts: 7,791
    Scott_xP said:

    @georgewbarros

    The Kremlin is negatively reacting to the US proposal that Ukraine receive "Article V-like" security guarantees.

    Russian Foreign Ministry "categorically rejects" NATO countries sending a military contingents to Ukraine.

    https://x.com/georgewbarros/status/1957525001739141290

    Don’t worry. Vlad will be on the phone soon to remind Donny not to go off message.
  • ohnotnowohnotnow Posts: 5,221

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/aug/18/protester-arrested-wearing-plasticine-action-t-shirt-palestine-gaza-protest

    Will the government now proscribe Plasticine Action, on the basis that could morph into something more sinister?

    Same thing happened near me :

    https://www.reddit.com/r/glasgow/comments/1mt2zqy/police_scotland_detain_a_man_wearing_an_antial/

    Police Scotland detain a man wearing an anti-Al shirt because it sounds similar to "Palestine Action"
  • DopermeanDopermean Posts: 1,411
    Scott_xP said:

    @YourAnonCentral

    European leaders take the day to babysit the US president

    https://x.com/YourAnonCentral/status/1957519809333325982

    Wonder who drew the short straw for nappy duty...
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 56,567
    Scott_xP said:

    @georgewbarros

    The Kremlin is negatively reacting to the US proposal that Ukraine receive "Article V-like" security guarantees.

    Russian Foreign Ministry "categorically rejects" NATO countries sending a military contingents to Ukraine.

    https://x.com/georgewbarros/status/1957525001739141290

    Oh well. Ukraine is Ukraine, and Russia has and will continue to have no say in how that country conducts itself in international relations.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 56,161
    Sandpit said:

    Visit the astonishing Ashcroft collection of war medals, before the current exhibition closes next month.

    https://x.com/lordashcroft/status/1957430122916589988

    Ashcroft has been a partisan figure when it comes to his support for the Tories, but the effort he’s put into this collection is just brilliant. I think he’s picked up every single VC that a family decided to publically sell or auction in the last couple of decades, with the explicit intention of keeping them on display and the stories of these extraordinary people told.

    I remember seeing his VC collection in the Imperial War Museum. A multitude of astonishing stories and heroism.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 64,228
    edited August 18
    I've had a lot of time to reflect, these last months of relative stablity - of quietness, reclusion, solitude, introspection. I've mulled over my assumptions, and often found them forlornly wanting - I now recognise that I've made far too many glib pronouncements, and facile statements over the PB years. And for these I apologise. I likewise apologise for those times - so many they make me wince - when I have been gracelessly offensive or needlessly abusive. I apologise for those moments, as well

    On top of that, I have learned one other thing: everyone on the left is a wanker
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 52,639
    DavidL said:

    Sandpit said:

    Visit the astonishing Ashcroft collection of war medals, before the current exhibition closes next month.

    https://x.com/lordashcroft/status/1957430122916589988

    Ashcroft has been a partisan figure when it comes to his support for the Tories, but the effort he’s put into this collection is just brilliant. I think he’s picked up every single VC that a family decided to publically sell or auction in the last couple of decades, with the explicit intention of keeping them on display and the stories of these extraordinary people told.

    I remember seeing his VC collection in the Imperial War Museum. A multitude of astonishing stories and heroism.
    This one is pretty remarkable. Died a few days ago aged 105.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Cruickshank
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 39,646
    Leon said:

    On top of that, I have learned one other thing: everyone on the left is a wanker

    Whereas you just pay for it
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 39,646
    She found them !!

    @washingtonpost

    Breaking news: The Justice Department will begin sharing records related to deceased sex offender Jeffrey Epstein on Friday, the House Oversight Committee chairman said in a statement.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 67,389
    Leon said:

    I've had a lot of time to reflect, these last months of relative stablity - of quietness, reclusion, solitude, introspection. I've mulled over my assumptions, and often found them forlornly wanting - I now recognise that I've made far too many glib pronouncements, and facile statements over the PB years. And for these I apologise. I likewise apologise for those times - so many they make me wince - when I have been gracelessly offensive or needlessly abusive. I apologise for those moments, as well

    On top of that, I have learned one other thing: everyone on the left is a wanker

    It was dripping nicely with mellifluous insincerity until the last sentence.

  • another_richardanother_richard Posts: 28,131
    Andy_JS said:

    Interesting facts.

    In the year 2000 China's population was around 21.5 times that of the UK.

    In 2025 China's population is around 20.3 times that of the UK.

    How have the carbon emissions changed ?
  • LeonLeon Posts: 64,228
    eek said:

    ohnotnow said:

    The cost of buying your own place is really getting out of hand.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ckgjy4d01jwo

    Soho House bought for £2bn as Ashton Kutcher joins board

    It's lost a 1/3 of it's 2021 value...
    I met a pleasant lady in Shoreditch Soho House the other day, on biz. Compared to the very very multiracial streets inside, it was like entering a Johannesburg tennis club in about 1978. Pure white, with the odd exception, and so different to the streets outside it was surreal

    Also a very agreeable space. They really know how to make a members club look chic, even if they can feel generic

    However there is no question they have over extended their membership, they have properties everywhere, how can an exclusive "private members club" have 250,000 members?
  • JohnLilburneJohnLilburne Posts: 7,003
    Sandpit said:

    Scott_xP said:

    @georgewbarros

    The Kremlin is negatively reacting to the US proposal that Ukraine receive "Article V-like" security guarantees.

    Russian Foreign Ministry "categorically rejects" NATO countries sending a military contingents to Ukraine.

    https://x.com/georgewbarros/status/1957525001739141290

    Oh well. Ukraine is Ukraine, and Russia has and will continue to have no say in how that country conducts itself in international relations.
    I'd say the best response would be for a number of NATO countries to send something non front line to eastern Ukraine, say logistics or medics. With AD of course. Call Putin's bluff. Don't announce it in advance, just casually mention it once it has happened.
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 44,744

    This is the worst best man's speech I've heard, Donald.

    Father of the bride shirly.

    ‘If the bride wasn’t my daughter I’d be dating her!
  • TazTaz Posts: 20,441
    Ozempic Vulva, making women look a little droopy apparently.

    https://x.com/nypost/status/1957511959458287970?s=61
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 55,620
    Leon said:

    I've had a lot of time to reflect, these last months of relative stablity - of quietness, reclusion, solitude, introspection. I've mulled over my assumptions, and often found them forlornly wanting - I now recognise that I've made far too many glib pronouncements, and facile statements over the PB years. And for these I apologise. I likewise apologise for those times - so many they make me wince - when I have been gracelessly offensive or needlessly abusive. I apologise for those moments, as well

    On top of that, I have learned one other thing: everyone on the left is a wanker

    Ah, the gentle wit of PB's Ultimate Centrist Dad!
  • nico67nico67 Posts: 5,791
    Scott_xP said:

    She found them !!

    @washingtonpost

    Breaking news: The Justice Department will begin sharing records related to deceased sex offender Jeffrey Epstein on Friday, the House Oversight Committee chairman said in a statement.

    Just the ones that look bad for everyone bar Trump .
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 39,646
    Russian drones landing in Ukraine right now
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 61,091
    Taz said:

    Ozempic Vulva, making women look a little droopy apparently.

    https://x.com/nypost/status/1957511959458287970?s=61

    There's a plastic surgeon in Beverly Hills who will sell you a solution to that problem.
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 44,744
    Taz said:

    Ozempic Vulva, making women look a little droopy apparently.

    https://x.com/nypost/status/1957511959458287970?s=61

    One big aged droopy fanny on here etc.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 61,091
    Leon said:

    eek said:

    ohnotnow said:

    The cost of buying your own place is really getting out of hand.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ckgjy4d01jwo

    Soho House bought for £2bn as Ashton Kutcher joins board

    It's lost a 1/3 of it's 2021 value...
    I met a pleasant lady in Shoreditch Soho House the other day, on biz. Compared to the very very multiracial streets inside, it was like entering a Johannesburg tennis club in about 1978. Pure white, with the odd exception, and so different to the streets outside it was surreal

    Also a very agreeable space. They really know how to make a members club look chic, even if they can feel generic

    However there is no question they have over extended their membership, they have properties everywhere, how can an exclusive "private members club" have 250,000 members?
    You can't.

    That said, I had a fun trip to Soho Farmhouse this year.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 39,646
    rcs1000 said:

    Leon said:

    eek said:

    ohnotnow said:

    The cost of buying your own place is really getting out of hand.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ckgjy4d01jwo

    Soho House bought for £2bn as Ashton Kutcher joins board

    It's lost a 1/3 of it's 2021 value...
    I met a pleasant lady in Shoreditch Soho House the other day, on biz. Compared to the very very multiracial streets inside, it was like entering a Johannesburg tennis club in about 1978. Pure white, with the odd exception, and so different to the streets outside it was surreal

    Also a very agreeable space. They really know how to make a members club look chic, even if they can feel generic

    However there is no question they have over extended their membership, they have properties everywhere, how can an exclusive "private members club" have 250,000 members?
    You can't.

    That said, I had a fun trip to Soho Farmhouse this year.
    Is every PBer a member?
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 46,581
    Scott_xP said:

    Leon said:

    On top of that, I have learned one other thing: everyone on the left is a wanker

    Whereas you just pay for it
    I pity the girls. Can you imagine how desperate for money you must be, to be sealed away in a seedy room with @Leon, ,as he creakily undresses to his socks, forlornly pops another blue pill into his mouth, and then starts talking about a chat he just had with an Albanian taxi driver, how all lefties are ****'s, and the wonders of whatever press release he's just read on Twix. He would drone on and on, as the girl scrabbles at the door to escape.

    The sex would be a welcome relief. And shorter... ;)
  • moonshinemoonshine Posts: 6,031
    rcs1000 said:

    Taz said:

    Ozempic Vulva, making women look a little droopy apparently.

    https://x.com/nypost/status/1957511959458287970?s=61

    There's a plastic surgeon in Beverly Hills who will sell you a solution to that problem.
    An hour of time with his wife?
  • algarkirkalgarkirk Posts: 15,246
    Scott_xP said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Leon said:

    eek said:

    ohnotnow said:

    The cost of buying your own place is really getting out of hand.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ckgjy4d01jwo

    Soho House bought for £2bn as Ashton Kutcher joins board

    It's lost a 1/3 of it's 2021 value...
    I met a pleasant lady in Shoreditch Soho House the other day, on biz. Compared to the very very multiracial streets inside, it was like entering a Johannesburg tennis club in about 1978. Pure white, with the odd exception, and so different to the streets outside it was surreal

    Also a very agreeable space. They really know how to make a members club look chic, even if they can feel generic

    However there is no question they have over extended their membership, they have properties everywhere, how can an exclusive "private members club" have 250,000 members?
    You can't.

    That said, I had a fun trip to Soho Farmhouse this year.
    Is every PBer a member?
    Never heard of it until today IIRC. Research shows that I live several thousand light years from the nearest emanation of it. Groucho Marx doctrine to apply here.
  • AnneJGPAnneJGP Posts: 3,845
    Leon said:

    eek said:

    ohnotnow said:

    The cost of buying your own place is really getting out of hand.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ckgjy4d01jwo

    Soho House bought for £2bn as Ashton Kutcher joins board

    It's lost a 1/3 of it's 2021 value...
    I met a pleasant lady in Shoreditch Soho House the other day, on biz. Compared to the very very multiracial streets inside, it was like entering a Johannesburg tennis club in about 1978. Pure white, with the odd exception, and so different to the streets outside it was surreal

    Also a very agreeable space. They really know how to make a members club look chic, even if they can feel generic

    However there is no question they have over extended their membership, they have properties everywhere, how can an exclusive "private members club" have 250,000 members?
    Has a lot to do with the number of people they're excluding.
  • state_go_awaystate_go_away Posts: 5,856
    Scott_xP said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Leon said:

    eek said:

    ohnotnow said:

    The cost of buying your own place is really getting out of hand.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ckgjy4d01jwo

    Soho House bought for £2bn as Ashton Kutcher joins board

    It's lost a 1/3 of it's 2021 value...
    I met a pleasant lady in Shoreditch Soho House the other day, on biz. Compared to the very very multiracial streets inside, it was like entering a Johannesburg tennis club in about 1978. Pure white, with the odd exception, and so different to the streets outside it was surreal

    Also a very agreeable space. They really know how to make a members club look chic, even if they can feel generic

    However there is no question they have over extended their membership, they have properties everywhere, how can an exclusive "private members club" have 250,000 members?
    You can't.

    That said, I had a fun trip to Soho Farmhouse this year.
    Is every PBer a member?
    I became a member 2 years ago when fees were cheap - still a reasonable way to meet people in the capital when down in a bit of a more exclusive atmosphere - bit like a casino
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 67,389
    Best for Britain
    @BestForBritain

    Did you spot JD Vance in thew background HATING every minute of progress being made? ~AA

    https://x.com/BestForBritain/status/1957523924872491247
  • LeonLeon Posts: 64,228
    rcs1000 said:

    Leon said:

    eek said:

    ohnotnow said:

    The cost of buying your own place is really getting out of hand.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ckgjy4d01jwo

    Soho House bought for £2bn as Ashton Kutcher joins board

    It's lost a 1/3 of it's 2021 value...
    I met a pleasant lady in Shoreditch Soho House the other day, on biz. Compared to the very very multiracial streets inside, it was like entering a Johannesburg tennis club in about 1978. Pure white, with the odd exception, and so different to the streets outside it was surreal

    Also a very agreeable space. They really know how to make a members club look chic, even if they can feel generic

    However there is no question they have over extended their membership, they have properties everywhere, how can an exclusive "private members club" have 250,000 members?
    You can't.

    That said, I had a fun trip to Soho Farmhouse this year.
    They do have some spectacular properties. The view of London from the one in Aldwych is phenomenal

    I quite like Soho Mews House in Mayfair, the way it is tucked away off Brooke Street. My agent swears it is the best place to make deals
  • FF43FF43 Posts: 18,271
    DavidL said:

    FF43 said:

    Sandpit said:

    Britiain’s most famous farmer is having a go at Ed Miliband.

    https://x.com/clarksonsfarm1/status/1957419985246015511

    The UK’s net zero plan targets zero emissions by 2050, despite its <1% global emissions compared to China’s >30%. I can’t help but critique the economic cost to agriculture and industry. Subsidies must balance sustainability and rural livelihoods.

    What are your thoughts?

    My thoughts. Given China's population is twenty times the size of the UK, Clarkson doesn't do maths.
    Err the maths would indicate that China is producing more than 150% more emissions than the UK per UK population on that basis.

    What they need is an Ed Miliband so that they stop making things and import them from somewhere else instead. But I think they would just shoot him and invoice his family for the bullet.
    50% more maybe. China's carbon emissions are probably falling quite fast due to rapid electrification using renewable sources, albeit it's a very recent trend.
Sign In or Register to comment.