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Every Cheltenham Festival Race Winner 2025 - And the Long Shots You Must Consider

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  • PhilPhil Posts: 2,505
    Scott_xP said:

    @JenniferJJacobs

    In message that was deleted and reposted, Trump said he will:
    - "permanently" shut Canadian car industry by raising tariffs substantially
    -declare a national emergency on energy
    -raise tariffs on steel and aluminum from Canada to 50%

    https://x.com/JenniferJJacobs/status/1899462852659863638

    Just peachy. Is the US president going to pick fights with every single single one of the US’ erstwhile allies?
  • eekeek Posts: 29,394
    edited March 11

    Scott_xP said:

    @JenniferJJacobs

    In message that was deleted and reposted, Trump said he will:
    - "permanently" shut Canadian car industry by raising tariffs substantially
    -declare a national emergency on energy
    -raise tariffs on steel and aluminum from Canada to 50%

    https://x.com/JenniferJJacobs/status/1899462852659863638

    https://x.com/trump_repost/status/1899464660094423301

    Based on Ontario, Canada, placing a 25% Tariff on "Electricity" coming into the United States, I have instructed my Secretary of Commerce to add an ADDITIONAL 25% Tariff, to 50%, on all STEEL and ALUMINUM COMING INTO THE UNITED STATES FROM CANADA, ONE OF THE HIGHEST TARIFFING NATIONS ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD. This will go into effect TOMORROW MORNING, March 12th. Also, Canada must immediately drop their Anti-American Farmer Tariff of 250% to 390% on various U.S. dairy products, which has long been considered outrageous. I will shortly be declaring a National Emergency on Electricity within the threatened area. This will allow the U.S to quickly do what has to be done to alleviate this abusive threat from Canada. If other egregious, long time Tariffs are not likewise dropped by Canada, I will substantially increase, on April 2nd, the Tariffs on Cars coming into the U.S. which will, essentially, permanently shut down the automobile manufacturing business in Canada. Those cars can easily be made in the USA! Also, Canada pays very little for National Security, relying on the United States for military protection. We are subsidizing Canada to the tune of more than 200 Billion Dollars a year. WHY??? This cannot continue. The only thing that makes sense is for Canada to become our cherished Fifty First State. This would make all Tariffs, and everything else, totally disappear. Canadians' taxes will be very substantially reduced, they will be more secure, militarily and otherwise, than ever before, there would no longer be a Northern Border problem, and the greatest and most powerful nation in the World will be bigger, better and stronger than ever — And Canada will be a big part of that. The artificial line of separation drawn many years ago will finally disappear, and we will have the safest and most beautiful Nation anywhere in the World — And your brilliant anthem, "O Canada," will continue to play, but now representing a GREAT and POWERFUL STATE within the greatest Nation that the World has ever seen!
    I love the idea that a car plant that doesn’t have the pressing plants to make a particular car model will be able to start doing so in days / weeks rather than the years it would really take

    Meanwhile China will be able to export cars at prices lower than GM and Ford can make them
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 75,145

    Scott_xP said:

    @JenniferJJacobs

    In message that was deleted and reposted, Trump said he will:
    - "permanently" shut Canadian car industry by raising tariffs substantially
    -declare a national emergency on energy
    -raise tariffs on steel and aluminum from Canada to 50%

    https://x.com/JenniferJJacobs/status/1899462852659863638

    https://x.com/trump_repost/status/1899464660094423301

    Based on Ontario, Canada, placing a 25% Tariff on "Electricity" coming into the United States, I have instructed my Secretary of Commerce to add an ADDITIONAL 25% Tariff, to 50%, on all STEEL and ALUMINUM COMING INTO THE UNITED STATES FROM CANADA, ONE OF THE HIGHEST TARIFFING NATIONS ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD. This will go into effect TOMORROW MORNING, March 12th. Also, Canada must immediately drop their Anti-American Farmer Tariff of 250% to 390% on various U.S. dairy products, which has long been considered outrageous. I will shortly be declaring a National Emergency on Electricity within the threatened area. This will allow the U.S to quickly do what has to be done to alleviate this abusive threat from Canada. If other egregious, long time Tariffs are not likewise dropped by Canada, I will substantially increase, on April 2nd, the Tariffs on Cars coming into the U.S. which will, essentially, permanently shut down the automobile manufacturing business in Canada. Those cars can easily be made in the USA! Also, Canada pays very little for National Security, relying on the United States for military protection. We are subsidizing Canada to the tune of more than 200 Billion Dollars a year. WHY??? This cannot continue. The only thing that makes sense is for Canada to become our cherished Fifty First State. This would make all Tariffs, and everything else, totally disappear. Canadians' taxes will be very substantially reduced, they will be more secure, militarily and otherwise, than ever before, there would no longer be a Northern Border problem, and the greatest and most powerful nation in the World will be bigger, better and stronger than ever — And Canada will be a big part of that. The artificial line of separation drawn many years ago will finally disappear, and we will have the safest and most beautiful Nation anywhere in the World — And your brilliant anthem, "O Canada," will continue to play, but now representing a GREAT and POWERFUL STATE within the greatest Nation that the World has ever seen!
    He really doesn't know any history, does he ?
  • boulayboulay Posts: 5,998

    Scott_xP said:

    @JenniferJJacobs

    In message that was deleted and reposted, Trump said he will:
    - "permanently" shut Canadian car industry by raising tariffs substantially
    -declare a national emergency on energy
    -raise tariffs on steel and aluminum from Canada to 50%

    https://x.com/JenniferJJacobs/status/1899462852659863638

    https://x.com/trump_repost/status/1899464660094423301

    Based on Ontario, Canada, placing a 25% Tariff on "Electricity" coming into the United States, I have instructed my Secretary of Commerce to add an ADDITIONAL 25% Tariff, to 50%, on all STEEL and ALUMINUM COMING INTO THE UNITED STATES FROM CANADA, ONE OF THE HIGHEST TARIFFING NATIONS ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD. This will go into effect TOMORROW MORNING, March 12th. Also, Canada must immediately drop their Anti-American Farmer Tariff of 250% to 390% on various U.S. dairy products, which has long been considered outrageous. I will shortly be declaring a National Emergency on Electricity within the threatened area. This will allow the U.S to quickly do what has to be done to alleviate this abusive threat from Canada. If other egregious, long time Tariffs are not likewise dropped by Canada, I will substantially increase, on April 2nd, the Tariffs on Cars coming into the U.S. which will, essentially, permanently shut down the automobile manufacturing business in Canada. Those cars can easily be made in the USA! Also, Canada pays very little for National Security, relying on the United States for military protection. We are subsidizing Canada to the tune of more than 200 Billion Dollars a year. WHY??? This cannot continue. The only thing that makes sense is for Canada to become our cherished Fifty First State. This would make all Tariffs, and everything else, totally disappear. Canadians' taxes will be very substantially reduced, they will be more secure, militarily and otherwise, than ever before, there would no longer be a Northern Border problem, and the greatest and most powerful nation in the World will be bigger, better and stronger than ever — And Canada will be a big part of that. The artificial line of separation drawn many years ago will finally disappear, and we will have the safest and most beautiful Nation anywhere in the World — And your brilliant anthem, "O Canada," will continue to play, but now representing a GREAT and POWERFUL STATE within the greatest Nation that the World has ever seen!
    Unhinged.

    Anyway, what about the artificial line of separation drawn with Mexico? I’m guessing he wants Mexico and Mexicans to join his new nuthouse? He does doesn’t he?
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 75,145
    Phil said:

    Scott_xP said:

    @JenniferJJacobs

    In message that was deleted and reposted, Trump said he will:
    - "permanently" shut Canadian car industry by raising tariffs substantially
    -declare a national emergency on energy
    -raise tariffs on steel and aluminum from Canada to 50%

    https://x.com/JenniferJJacobs/status/1899462852659863638

    Just peachy. Is the US president going to pick fights with every single single one of the US’ erstwhile allies?
    Yes.
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 44,581
    edited March 11

    Carnyx said:

    Carnyx said:

    Carnyx said:

    The cases Goodwin tends to highlight are very serious foreign criminals who have not been deported for bizarre reasons. He may be simplifying the full explanation for the judge's decision but I'd think 80-90% of people would agree with the general thrust.

    The cases Goodwin tends to highlight have usually not been deported for sensible reasons, but someone has selectively picked something out of the court's ruling to make it seem like a bizarre reason. There is a lot of duplicitous reporting; not merely "simplifying the full explanation" but misrepresenting it wholesale.
    Well people need to start doing a better job of rebutting.
    If one reads PB there is plenty of rebuttal.
    I've not seen many rebuttals of the judicial decisions allowing foreign criminals to stay.
    Er, you were clearly demanding "a better job of rebutting" the "selective" and "duplicitous reporting" and "misrepresenting" of such decisions.
    Are you suggesting bondegezou has done that? I would expect detail not just saying someone is wrong.
    There has ben plenty of discussion of the selective reporting of judge's decisions by the right wing.
    Its not just the right thought is it? Take the reporting around the scuffle at Manchester. Initially some of the media portrayed it as a simple police brutality case against oppressed minorities. When the full picture came out things were a bit different.

    Lots of people, for lots of reasons, distort reporting of events. Using facts is the best way to counter it.
    All part of a wider issue - eg complaints about *all* criminals where it's something emotive, e.g. running over granddad.

    But the rightists are making a speciality of it these days. Because they're no longer in charge in the UK. Look also at the late ferocious but made-up attacks on sentencing policy by an organization *set up and maintained by the previous administration*.
  • MattWMattW Posts: 25,676
    Interesting.

    Free Speech Twitter just "had a problem" with this tweet. But then posted it when I swapped "Chump" into "Trump".

    Has Mr Chump explained why charging 50% tariffs on Canadian steel imported to use in USA made cars, whilst having a tariff exemption for cars made in North America with 75% North American content will close down the CANADIAN car industry?

    Just asking
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 54,099
    boulay said:

    Scott_xP said:

    @JenniferJJacobs

    In message that was deleted and reposted, Trump said he will:
    - "permanently" shut Canadian car industry by raising tariffs substantially
    -declare a national emergency on energy
    -raise tariffs on steel and aluminum from Canada to 50%

    https://x.com/JenniferJJacobs/status/1899462852659863638

    https://x.com/trump_repost/status/1899464660094423301

    Based on Ontario, Canada, placing a 25% Tariff on "Electricity" coming into the United States, I have instructed my Secretary of Commerce to add an ADDITIONAL 25% Tariff, to 50%, on all STEEL and ALUMINUM COMING INTO THE UNITED STATES FROM CANADA, ONE OF THE HIGHEST TARIFFING NATIONS ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD. This will go into effect TOMORROW MORNING, March 12th. Also, Canada must immediately drop their Anti-American Farmer Tariff of 250% to 390% on various U.S. dairy products, which has long been considered outrageous. I will shortly be declaring a National Emergency on Electricity within the threatened area. This will allow the U.S to quickly do what has to be done to alleviate this abusive threat from Canada. If other egregious, long time Tariffs are not likewise dropped by Canada, I will substantially increase, on April 2nd, the Tariffs on Cars coming into the U.S. which will, essentially, permanently shut down the automobile manufacturing business in Canada. Those cars can easily be made in the USA! Also, Canada pays very little for National Security, relying on the United States for military protection. We are subsidizing Canada to the tune of more than 200 Billion Dollars a year. WHY??? This cannot continue. The only thing that makes sense is for Canada to become our cherished Fifty First State. This would make all Tariffs, and everything else, totally disappear. Canadians' taxes will be very substantially reduced, they will be more secure, militarily and otherwise, than ever before, there would no longer be a Northern Border problem, and the greatest and most powerful nation in the World will be bigger, better and stronger than ever — And Canada will be a big part of that. The artificial line of separation drawn many years ago will finally disappear, and we will have the safest and most beautiful Nation anywhere in the World — And your brilliant anthem, "O Canada," will continue to play, but now representing a GREAT and POWERFUL STATE within the greatest Nation that the World has ever seen!
    Unhinged.

    Anyway, what about the artificial line of separation drawn with Mexico? I’m guessing he wants Mexico and Mexicans to join his new nuthouse? He does doesn’t he?
    The existence of the border between Canada and the USA is the result of a family dispute between different groups of British settlers, so it's not the same as the border with Mexico.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 53,425
    viewcode said:

    Nigelb said:

    HYUFD said:

    ...

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    TimS said:

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    Nigelb said:

    HYUFD said:

    Scott_xP said:

    @thetimes

    Marco Rubio, the US secretary of state, said that Ukraine will have to give up land seized by Russia as part of any peace deal as he flew to Saudi Arabia for make-or-break talks

    On that Rubio is right, no chance Russia agrees to any ceasefire without keeping the land it has already gained
    Why is the US accepting Russian conditions before negotiations have even started ?
    While actively attacking Ukraine's.

    You might as well say there's no chance of Russia agreeing a ceasefire without Ukraine's capitulation.
    Russia wants all the regions it has partly gained not just the bits it has now occupied.

    Both sides will have to compromise for a peace deal
    Which is why it is so disgusting that the US is seeking an unjust peace. Team Orange seem to forget that there are purposes in fighting a war. They are clearly selling Ukraine down the river. For Ukraine to continue killing Russians degrades their army and makes it unlikely they could try it on anywhere else any time soon. Also condemns millions of Ukrainians to occupation and genocide
    The only way Russia can be defeated is to force Russian troops out of Ukraine entirely but Putin would likely use a nuclear bomb of some form if he looked like losing that badly.

    Otherwise it has to be some division of boundaries of territory in which neither Ukraine nor Russia get all they want for peace
    Why are you so convinced about him using a nuclear bomb? Just think. What would be the consequences for him of doing so?
    Little more sanctions than he already has and Russia has more nuclear missiles than any other nation on earth
    The consequences would ultimately be nuclear strikes on Moscow. Might take a while, but that’s the end game. Now, we’d all be fried too but Putin is not a nihilist or mad.
    Not if just tactical nukes used in Ukraine, Moscow would only be nuked if London, Paris or New York or DC or LA were nuked
    So Putin can nuke his way to just short of Alsace and he'll be exempt from any nuclear retaliatory action?
    I highly doubt France, the UK or US would actually when it came down to it nuke Russia unless they themselves had been nuked by Putin.

    The nuclear missile umbrella for all non US and non UK NATO nations Macron is talking about is principally just to make Putin think they might if he invaded or nuked a NATO nation which didn't have nuclear missiles
    Nuclear proliferation was a bit rubbish then. If we can only use our nukes when London and Paris have been reduced to rubble it wasn't much of a deterrent.
    Yes Prime Minister summarised it well

    https://www.facebook.com/ukcomedyfans/videos/yes-prime-minister-nuclear-deterrent/1784300631870797/

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7YR6WICIAI
    Which is why you General Power in charge if your nuclear weapons. For those whose don’t know, Curtis Le May thought Power was a bit too enthusiastic about war.
    Deterrence theory has moved on a bit since the days of Walter Matthau.
    FAIL-SAFE (1963): excerpt "The First Strike Argument" (2 mins), with Walter Matthau as the hawkish civilian Pentagon advisor, Prof. Groeteschele
    Old favourite of mine. Convicts vs File clerks….
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 75,145

    boulay said:

    Scott_xP said:

    @JenniferJJacobs

    In message that was deleted and reposted, Trump said he will:
    - "permanently" shut Canadian car industry by raising tariffs substantially
    -declare a national emergency on energy
    -raise tariffs on steel and aluminum from Canada to 50%

    https://x.com/JenniferJJacobs/status/1899462852659863638

    https://x.com/trump_repost/status/1899464660094423301

    Based on Ontario, Canada, placing a 25% Tariff on "Electricity" coming into the United States, I have instructed my Secretary of Commerce to add an ADDITIONAL 25% Tariff, to 50%, on all STEEL and ALUMINUM COMING INTO THE UNITED STATES FROM CANADA, ONE OF THE HIGHEST TARIFFING NATIONS ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD. This will go into effect TOMORROW MORNING, March 12th. Also, Canada must immediately drop their Anti-American Farmer Tariff of 250% to 390% on various U.S. dairy products, which has long been considered outrageous. I will shortly be declaring a National Emergency on Electricity within the threatened area. This will allow the U.S to quickly do what has to be done to alleviate this abusive threat from Canada. If other egregious, long time Tariffs are not likewise dropped by Canada, I will substantially increase, on April 2nd, the Tariffs on Cars coming into the U.S. which will, essentially, permanently shut down the automobile manufacturing business in Canada. Those cars can easily be made in the USA! Also, Canada pays very little for National Security, relying on the United States for military protection. We are subsidizing Canada to the tune of more than 200 Billion Dollars a year. WHY??? This cannot continue. The only thing that makes sense is for Canada to become our cherished Fifty First State. This would make all Tariffs, and everything else, totally disappear. Canadians' taxes will be very substantially reduced, they will be more secure, militarily and otherwise, than ever before, there would no longer be a Northern Border problem, and the greatest and most powerful nation in the World will be bigger, better and stronger than ever — And Canada will be a big part of that. The artificial line of separation drawn many years ago will finally disappear, and we will have the safest and most beautiful Nation anywhere in the World — And your brilliant anthem, "O Canada," will continue to play, but now representing a GREAT and POWERFUL STATE within the greatest Nation that the World has ever seen!
    Unhinged.

    Anyway, what about the artificial line of separation drawn with Mexico? I’m guessing he wants Mexico and Mexicans to join his new nuthouse? He does doesn’t he?
    The existence of the border between Canada and the USA is the result of a family dispute between different groups of British settlers, so it's not the same as the border with Mexico.
    You don't seem to have much grasp, either.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 54,099
    Nigelb said:

    boulay said:

    Scott_xP said:

    @JenniferJJacobs

    In message that was deleted and reposted, Trump said he will:
    - "permanently" shut Canadian car industry by raising tariffs substantially
    -declare a national emergency on energy
    -raise tariffs on steel and aluminum from Canada to 50%

    https://x.com/JenniferJJacobs/status/1899462852659863638

    https://x.com/trump_repost/status/1899464660094423301

    Based on Ontario, Canada, placing a 25% Tariff on "Electricity" coming into the United States, I have instructed my Secretary of Commerce to add an ADDITIONAL 25% Tariff, to 50%, on all STEEL and ALUMINUM COMING INTO THE UNITED STATES FROM CANADA, ONE OF THE HIGHEST TARIFFING NATIONS ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD. This will go into effect TOMORROW MORNING, March 12th. Also, Canada must immediately drop their Anti-American Farmer Tariff of 250% to 390% on various U.S. dairy products, which has long been considered outrageous. I will shortly be declaring a National Emergency on Electricity within the threatened area. This will allow the U.S to quickly do what has to be done to alleviate this abusive threat from Canada. If other egregious, long time Tariffs are not likewise dropped by Canada, I will substantially increase, on April 2nd, the Tariffs on Cars coming into the U.S. which will, essentially, permanently shut down the automobile manufacturing business in Canada. Those cars can easily be made in the USA! Also, Canada pays very little for National Security, relying on the United States for military protection. We are subsidizing Canada to the tune of more than 200 Billion Dollars a year. WHY??? This cannot continue. The only thing that makes sense is for Canada to become our cherished Fifty First State. This would make all Tariffs, and everything else, totally disappear. Canadians' taxes will be very substantially reduced, they will be more secure, militarily and otherwise, than ever before, there would no longer be a Northern Border problem, and the greatest and most powerful nation in the World will be bigger, better and stronger than ever — And Canada will be a big part of that. The artificial line of separation drawn many years ago will finally disappear, and we will have the safest and most beautiful Nation anywhere in the World — And your brilliant anthem, "O Canada," will continue to play, but now representing a GREAT and POWERFUL STATE within the greatest Nation that the World has ever seen!
    Unhinged.

    Anyway, what about the artificial line of separation drawn with Mexico? I’m guessing he wants Mexico and Mexicans to join his new nuthouse? He does doesn’t he?
    The existence of the border between Canada and the USA is the result of a family dispute between different groups of British settlers, so it's not the same as the border with Mexico.
    You don't seem to have much grasp, either.
    How is that not true?
  • boulayboulay Posts: 5,998
    Phil said:

    Scott_xP said:

    @JenniferJJacobs

    In message that was deleted and reposted, Trump said he will:
    - "permanently" shut Canadian car industry by raising tariffs substantially
    -declare a national emergency on energy
    -raise tariffs on steel and aluminum from Canada to 50%

    https://x.com/JenniferJJacobs/status/1899462852659863638

    Just peachy. Is the US president going to pick fights with every single single one of the US’ erstwhile allies?
    Like a drunk bellowing in a pub car park yelling at his former drinking partners about some imaginary slight “I’ll take you all on yer bastards” inevitably falling on face later then crying for his mum.
  • RogerRoger Posts: 20,103
    edited March 11

    Scott_xP said:

    @JenniferJJacobs

    In message that was deleted and reposted, Trump said he will:
    - "permanently" shut Canadian car industry by raising tariffs substantially
    -declare a national emergency on energy
    -raise tariffs on steel and aluminum from Canada to 50%

    https://x.com/JenniferJJacobs/status/1899462852659863638

    https://x.com/trump_repost/status/1899464660094423301

    Based on Ontario, Canada, placing a 25% Tariff on "Electricity" coming into the United States, I have instructed my Secretary of Commerce to add an ADDITIONAL 25% Tariff, to 50%, on all STEEL and ALUMINUM COMING INTO THE UNITED STATES FROM CANADA, ONE OF THE HIGHEST TARIFFING NATIONS ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD. This will go into effect TOMORROW MORNING, March 12th. Also, Canada must immediately drop their Anti-American Farmer Tariff of 250% to 390% on various U.S. dairy products, which has long been considered outrageous. I will shortly be declaring a National Emergency on Electricity within the threatened area. This will allow the U.S to quickly do what has to be done to alleviate this abusive threat from Canada. If other egregious, long time Tariffs are not likewise dropped by Canada, I will substantially increase, on April 2nd, the Tariffs on Cars coming into the U.S. which will, essentially, permanently shut down the automobile manufacturing business in Canada. Those cars can easily be made in the USA! Also, Canada pays very little for National Security, relying on the United States for military protection. We are subsidizing Canada to the tune of more than 200 Billion Dollars a year. WHY??? This cannot continue. The only thing that makes sense is for Canada to become our cherished Fifty First State. This would make all Tariffs, and everything else, totally disappear. Canadians' taxes will be very substantially reduced, they will be more secure, militarily and otherwise, than ever before, there would no longer be a Northern Border problem, and the greatest and most powerful nation in the World will be bigger, better and stronger than ever — And Canada will be a big part of that. The artificial line of separation drawn many years ago will finally disappear, and we will have the safest and most beautiful Nation anywhere in the World — And your brilliant anthem, "O Canada," will continue to play, but now representing a GREAT and POWERFUL STATE within the greatest Nation that the World has ever seen!
    surely time for Canada's head of state to withdraw his invitation to a state visit or better still send a gunboat!
  • glwglw Posts: 10,250

    Scott_xP said:

    @JenniferJJacobs

    In message that was deleted and reposted, Trump said he will:
    - "permanently" shut Canadian car industry by raising tariffs substantially
    -declare a national emergency on energy
    -raise tariffs on steel and aluminum from Canada to 50%

    https://x.com/JenniferJJacobs/status/1899462852659863638

    https://x.com/trump_repost/status/1899464660094423301

    Based on Ontario, Canada, placing a 25% Tariff on "Electricity" coming into the United States, I have instructed my Secretary of Commerce to add an ADDITIONAL 25% Tariff, to 50%, on all STEEL and ALUMINUM COMING INTO THE UNITED STATES FROM CANADA, ONE OF THE HIGHEST TARIFFING NATIONS ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD. This will go into effect TOMORROW MORNING, March 12th. Also, Canada must immediately drop their Anti-American Farmer Tariff of 250% to 390% on various U.S. dairy products, which has long been considered outrageous. I will shortly be declaring a National Emergency on Electricity within the threatened area. This will allow the U.S to quickly do what has to be done to alleviate this abusive threat from Canada. If other egregious, long time Tariffs are not likewise dropped by Canada, I will substantially increase, on April 2nd, the Tariffs on Cars coming into the U.S. which will, essentially, permanently shut down the automobile manufacturing business in Canada. Those cars can easily be made in the USA! Also, Canada pays very little for National Security, relying on the United States for military protection. We are subsidizing Canada to the tune of more than 200 Billion Dollars a year. WHY??? This cannot continue. The only thing that makes sense is for Canada to become our cherished Fifty First State. This would make all Tariffs, and everything else, totally disappear. Canadians' taxes will be very substantially reduced, they will be more secure, militarily and otherwise, than ever before, there would no longer be a Northern Border problem, and the greatest and most powerful nation in the World will be bigger, better and stronger than ever — And Canada will be a big part of that. The artificial line of separation drawn many years ago will finally disappear, and we will have the safest and most beautiful Nation anywhere in the World — And your brilliant anthem, "O Canada," will continue to play, but now representing a GREAT and POWERFUL STATE within the greatest Nation that the World has ever seen!
    You know if the US is still a functioning law-abiding sane nation then this is the point that the 25th amendment would be used, or Congress would impeach him, or in extremis the US military would depose him. Donald has completely flipped his lid, and letting him continue in office is absurdly dangerous.
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 23,751
    Nigelb said:

    viewcode said:

    Nigelb said:

    HYUFD said:

    ...

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    TimS said:

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    Nigelb said:

    HYUFD said:

    Scott_xP said:

    @thetimes

    Marco Rubio, the US secretary of state, said that Ukraine will have to give up land seized by Russia as part of any peace deal as he flew to Saudi Arabia for make-or-break talks

    On that Rubio is right, no chance Russia agrees to any ceasefire without keeping the land it has already gained
    Why is the US accepting Russian conditions before negotiations have even started ?
    While actively attacking Ukraine's.

    You might as well say there's no chance of Russia agreeing a ceasefire without Ukraine's capitulation.
    Russia wants all the regions it has partly gained not just the bits it has now occupied.

    Both sides will have to compromise for a peace deal
    Which is why it is so disgusting that the US is seeking an unjust peace. Team Orange seem to forget that there are purposes in fighting a war. They are clearly selling Ukraine down the river. For Ukraine to continue killing Russians degrades their army and makes it unlikely they could try it on anywhere else any time soon. Also condemns millions of Ukrainians to occupation and genocide
    The only way Russia can be defeated is to force Russian troops out of Ukraine entirely but Putin would likely use a nuclear bomb of some form if he looked like losing that badly.

    Otherwise it has to be some division of boundaries of territory in which neither Ukraine nor Russia get all they want for peace
    Why are you so convinced about him using a nuclear bomb? Just think. What would be the consequences for him of doing so?
    Little more sanctions than he already has and Russia has more nuclear missiles than any other nation on earth
    The consequences would ultimately be nuclear strikes on Moscow. Might take a while, but that’s the end game. Now, we’d all be fried too but Putin is not a nihilist or mad.
    Not if just tactical nukes used in Ukraine, Moscow would only be nuked if London, Paris or New York or DC or LA were nuked
    So Putin can nuke his way to just short of Alsace and he'll be exempt from any nuclear retaliatory action?
    I highly doubt France, the UK or US would actually when it came down to it nuke Russia unless they themselves had been nuked by Putin.

    The nuclear missile umbrella for all non US and non UK NATO nations Macron is talking about is principally just to make Putin think they might if he invaded or nuked a NATO nation which didn't have nuclear missiles
    Nuclear proliferation was a bit rubbish then. If we can only use our nukes when London and Paris have been reduced to rubble it wasn't much of a deterrent.
    Yes Prime Minister summarised it well

    https://www.facebook.com/ukcomedyfans/videos/yes-prime-minister-nuclear-deterrent/1784300631870797/

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7YR6WICIAI
    Which is why you General Power in charge if your nuclear weapons. For those whose don’t know, Curtis Le May thought Power was a bit too enthusiastic about war.
    Deterrence theory has moved on a bit since the days of Walter Matthau.
    FAIL-SAFE (1963): excerpt "The First Strike Argument" (2 mins), with Walter Matthau as the hawkish civilian Pentagon advisor, Prof. Groeteschele
    The old days, just on the cusp of the nuclear triad / assured second strike regime.

    I think they hand painted the electronic situation display for the movie ?
    I don't think so: it has the flickering you'd associate with a refresh rate out of synch with the film camera frame rate. Happy to be contradicted if you know otherwise

    I love the gray balance in "Fail Safe": those blacks are very deep and give the film a distinct look. I don't know if we could reproduce it these days. "The Hill" has a similar look if not as dramatic.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 75,145

    Nigelb said:

    boulay said:

    Scott_xP said:

    @JenniferJJacobs

    In message that was deleted and reposted, Trump said he will:
    - "permanently" shut Canadian car industry by raising tariffs substantially
    -declare a national emergency on energy
    -raise tariffs on steel and aluminum from Canada to 50%

    https://x.com/JenniferJJacobs/status/1899462852659863638

    https://x.com/trump_repost/status/1899464660094423301

    Based on Ontario, Canada, placing a 25% Tariff on "Electricity" coming into the United States, I have instructed my Secretary of Commerce to add an ADDITIONAL 25% Tariff, to 50%, on all STEEL and ALUMINUM COMING INTO THE UNITED STATES FROM CANADA, ONE OF THE HIGHEST TARIFFING NATIONS ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD. This will go into effect TOMORROW MORNING, March 12th. Also, Canada must immediately drop their Anti-American Farmer Tariff of 250% to 390% on various U.S. dairy products, which has long been considered outrageous. I will shortly be declaring a National Emergency on Electricity within the threatened area. This will allow the U.S to quickly do what has to be done to alleviate this abusive threat from Canada. If other egregious, long time Tariffs are not likewise dropped by Canada, I will substantially increase, on April 2nd, the Tariffs on Cars coming into the U.S. which will, essentially, permanently shut down the automobile manufacturing business in Canada. Those cars can easily be made in the USA! Also, Canada pays very little for National Security, relying on the United States for military protection. We are subsidizing Canada to the tune of more than 200 Billion Dollars a year. WHY??? This cannot continue. The only thing that makes sense is for Canada to become our cherished Fifty First State. This would make all Tariffs, and everything else, totally disappear. Canadians' taxes will be very substantially reduced, they will be more secure, militarily and otherwise, than ever before, there would no longer be a Northern Border problem, and the greatest and most powerful nation in the World will be bigger, better and stronger than ever — And Canada will be a big part of that. The artificial line of separation drawn many years ago will finally disappear, and we will have the safest and most beautiful Nation anywhere in the World — And your brilliant anthem, "O Canada," will continue to play, but now representing a GREAT and POWERFUL STATE within the greatest Nation that the World has ever seen!
    Unhinged.

    Anyway, what about the artificial line of separation drawn with Mexico? I’m guessing he wants Mexico and Mexicans to join his new nuthouse? He does doesn’t he?
    The existence of the border between Canada and the USA is the result of a family dispute between different groups of British settlers, so it's not the same as the border with Mexico.
    You don't seem to have much grasp, either.
    How is that not true?
    That's your homework for tonight.
  • CharlieSharkCharlieShark Posts: 451

    Thanks Moon Rabbit for the header, interesting to see how they end up.

    Hard to see beyond many of the favourites today.

    Elsewhere, I like Broadway Boy in 2.40, but he is drifting quite a bit this morning. Quantock Hills in 4.40 can give a good run and worth EW bet at 18s. Tripoli Flyer another EW in 1.20 at 25/1. Keep coming back to State Man at 11/1, tempted.

    Tripoli Flyer has a note from its mother I’m afraid.
    Broadway Boy is a very good tip for Ultima. Was pencilled in as a contender by me at one point, and had won here several times in 2023, but not shone at Cheltenham in last 2 visits, otherwise probably would start favourite, so a very nice price for a win. Great tip, Sharky.

    A more extreme example of horses for courses, Victtorino has looked good elsewhere, but can’t get it together at this course.
    You were right, definitely horses for courses, he didn't really seem interested again. Was lucky someone told me yesterday it would be Myretown. I didn't think so, but got it at 12/1. Helped make up for my own losses in other races.
  • MattWMattW Posts: 25,676
    edited March 11
    eek said:

    Trump had added another 25% tariff on steel imports from Canada

    I take it some states don’t want electricity

    I don't know the market, but with a +25% surcharge is Canada still the competitive supplier for that region?

    On oil they should be able to get away with a lot, because demand for heavy crude from the heavy-crude refineries in Texas is afaics price-inelastic.
  • boulayboulay Posts: 5,998

    boulay said:

    Scott_xP said:

    @JenniferJJacobs

    In message that was deleted and reposted, Trump said he will:
    - "permanently" shut Canadian car industry by raising tariffs substantially
    -declare a national emergency on energy
    -raise tariffs on steel and aluminum from Canada to 50%

    https://x.com/JenniferJJacobs/status/1899462852659863638

    https://x.com/trump_repost/status/1899464660094423301

    Based on Ontario, Canada, placing a 25% Tariff on "Electricity" coming into the United States, I have instructed my Secretary of Commerce to add an ADDITIONAL 25% Tariff, to 50%, on all STEEL and ALUMINUM COMING INTO THE UNITED STATES FROM CANADA, ONE OF THE HIGHEST TARIFFING NATIONS ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD. This will go into effect TOMORROW MORNING, March 12th. Also, Canada must immediately drop their Anti-American Farmer Tariff of 250% to 390% on various U.S. dairy products, which has long been considered outrageous. I will shortly be declaring a National Emergency on Electricity within the threatened area. This will allow the U.S to quickly do what has to be done to alleviate this abusive threat from Canada. If other egregious, long time Tariffs are not likewise dropped by Canada, I will substantially increase, on April 2nd, the Tariffs on Cars coming into the U.S. which will, essentially, permanently shut down the automobile manufacturing business in Canada. Those cars can easily be made in the USA! Also, Canada pays very little for National Security, relying on the United States for military protection. We are subsidizing Canada to the tune of more than 200 Billion Dollars a year. WHY??? This cannot continue. The only thing that makes sense is for Canada to become our cherished Fifty First State. This would make all Tariffs, and everything else, totally disappear. Canadians' taxes will be very substantially reduced, they will be more secure, militarily and otherwise, than ever before, there would no longer be a Northern Border problem, and the greatest and most powerful nation in the World will be bigger, better and stronger than ever — And Canada will be a big part of that. The artificial line of separation drawn many years ago will finally disappear, and we will have the safest and most beautiful Nation anywhere in the World — And your brilliant anthem, "O Canada," will continue to play, but now representing a GREAT and POWERFUL STATE within the greatest Nation that the World has ever seen!
    Unhinged.

    Anyway, what about the artificial line of separation drawn with Mexico? I’m guessing he wants Mexico and Mexicans to join his new nuthouse? He does doesn’t he?
    The existence of the border between Canada and the USA is the result of a family dispute between different groups of British settlers, so it's not the same as the border with Mexico.
    I see where you are heading with this…

    The existence of the border between Ukraine and Russia is the result of a family dispute between different groups of Russian settlers, so it's not the same as the Polish border with Kaliningrad.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 121,170

    NEW THREAD

  • kamskikamski Posts: 6,150
    boulay said:

    Scott_xP said:

    @JenniferJJacobs

    In message that was deleted and reposted, Trump said he will:
    - "permanently" shut Canadian car industry by raising tariffs substantially
    -declare a national emergency on energy
    -raise tariffs on steel and aluminum from Canada to 50%

    https://x.com/JenniferJJacobs/status/1899462852659863638

    https://x.com/trump_repost/status/1899464660094423301

    Based on Ontario, Canada, placing a 25% Tariff on "Electricity" coming into the United States, I have instructed my Secretary of Commerce to add an ADDITIONAL 25% Tariff, to 50%, on all STEEL and ALUMINUM COMING INTO THE UNITED STATES FROM CANADA, ONE OF THE HIGHEST TARIFFING NATIONS ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD. This will go into effect TOMORROW MORNING, March 12th. Also, Canada must immediately drop their Anti-American Farmer Tariff of 250% to 390% on various U.S. dairy products, which has long been considered outrageous. I will shortly be declaring a National Emergency on Electricity within the threatened area. This will allow the U.S to quickly do what has to be done to alleviate this abusive threat from Canada. If other egregious, long time Tariffs are not likewise dropped by Canada, I will substantially increase, on April 2nd, the Tariffs on Cars coming into the U.S. which will, essentially, permanently shut down the automobile manufacturing business in Canada. Those cars can easily be made in the USA! Also, Canada pays very little for National Security, relying on the United States for military protection. We are subsidizing Canada to the tune of more than 200 Billion Dollars a year. WHY??? This cannot continue. The only thing that makes sense is for Canada to become our cherished Fifty First State. This would make all Tariffs, and everything else, totally disappear. Canadians' taxes will be very substantially reduced, they will be more secure, militarily and otherwise, than ever before, there would no longer be a Northern Border problem, and the greatest and most powerful nation in the World will be bigger, better and stronger than ever — And Canada will be a big part of that. The artificial line of separation drawn many years ago will finally disappear, and we will have the safest and most beautiful Nation anywhere in the World — And your brilliant anthem, "O Canada," will continue to play, but now representing a GREAT and POWERFUL STATE within the greatest Nation that the World has ever seen!
    Unhinged.

    Anyway, what about the artificial line of separation drawn with Mexico? I’m guessing he wants Mexico and Mexicans to join his new nuthouse? He does doesn’t he?
    How's Calexit going?
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 29,804
    glw said:

    Scott_xP said:

    @JenniferJJacobs

    In message that was deleted and reposted, Trump said he will:
    - "permanently" shut Canadian car industry by raising tariffs substantially
    -declare a national emergency on energy
    -raise tariffs on steel and aluminum from Canada to 50%

    https://x.com/JenniferJJacobs/status/1899462852659863638

    https://x.com/trump_repost/status/1899464660094423301

    Based on Ontario, Canada, placing a 25% Tariff on "Electricity" coming into the United States, I have instructed my Secretary of Commerce to add an ADDITIONAL 25% Tariff, to 50%, on all STEEL and ALUMINUM COMING INTO THE UNITED STATES FROM CANADA, ONE OF THE HIGHEST TARIFFING NATIONS ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD. This will go into effect TOMORROW MORNING, March 12th. Also, Canada must immediately drop their Anti-American Farmer Tariff of 250% to 390% on various U.S. dairy products, which has long been considered outrageous. I will shortly be declaring a National Emergency on Electricity within the threatened area. This will allow the U.S to quickly do what has to be done to alleviate this abusive threat from Canada. If other egregious, long time Tariffs are not likewise dropped by Canada, I will substantially increase, on April 2nd, the Tariffs on Cars coming into the U.S. which will, essentially, permanently shut down the automobile manufacturing business in Canada. Those cars can easily be made in the USA! Also, Canada pays very little for National Security, relying on the United States for military protection. We are subsidizing Canada to the tune of more than 200 Billion Dollars a year. WHY??? This cannot continue. The only thing that makes sense is for Canada to become our cherished Fifty First State. This would make all Tariffs, and everything else, totally disappear. Canadians' taxes will be very substantially reduced, they will be more secure, militarily and otherwise, than ever before, there would no longer be a Northern Border problem, and the greatest and most powerful nation in the World will be bigger, better and stronger than ever — And Canada will be a big part of that. The artificial line of separation drawn many years ago will finally disappear, and we will have the safest and most beautiful Nation anywhere in the World — And your brilliant anthem, "O Canada," will continue to play, but now representing a GREAT and POWERFUL STATE within the greatest Nation that the World has ever seen!
    You know if the US is still a functioning law-abiding sane nation then this is the point that the 25th amendment would be used, or Congress would impeach him, or in extremis the US military would depose him. Donald has completely flipped his lid, and letting him continue in office is absurdly dangerous.
    But then we get Vance.
    Nowt to see here...
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 18,307
    Carnyx said:

    Carnyx said:

    Carnyx said:

    Carnyx said:

    The cases Goodwin tends to highlight are very serious foreign criminals who have not been deported for bizarre reasons. He may be simplifying the full explanation for the judge's decision but I'd think 80-90% of people would agree with the general thrust.

    The cases Goodwin tends to highlight have usually not been deported for sensible reasons, but someone has selectively picked something out of the court's ruling to make it seem like a bizarre reason. There is a lot of duplicitous reporting; not merely "simplifying the full explanation" but misrepresenting it wholesale.
    Well people need to start doing a better job of rebutting.
    If one reads PB there is plenty of rebuttal.
    I've not seen many rebuttals of the judicial decisions allowing foreign criminals to stay.
    Er, you were clearly demanding "a better job of rebutting" the "selective" and "duplicitous reporting" and "misrepresenting" of such decisions.
    Are you suggesting bondegezou has done that? I would expect detail not just saying someone is wrong.
    There has ben plenty of discussion of the selective reporting of judge's decisions by the right wing.
    Its not just the right thought is it? Take the reporting around the scuffle at Manchester. Initially some of the media portrayed it as a simple police brutality case against oppressed minorities. When the full picture came out things were a bit different.

    Lots of people, for lots of reasons, distort reporting of events. Using facts is the best way to counter it.
    All part of a wider issue - eg complaints about *all* criminals where it's something emotive, e.g. running over granddad.

    But the rightists are making a speciality of it these days. Because they're no longer in charge in the UK. Look also at the late ferocious but made-up attacks on sentencing policy by an organization *set up and maintained by the previous administration*.
    Hang on - if its made up, why is the Labour minister also concerned?
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 30,485

    Nigelb said:

    Dondamus ?


    Two of now redundant.
    Just two? It's arguable that he has already achieved a full house. If you still doubt WWIII he can nonetheless claim a creditable hat trick.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 30,485
    kamski said:

    kamski said:

    Has Trump bought his new Tesla yet?

    I doubt this gesture will help Tesla sales here in Germany (down 76% last month). But plenty of people will be making their own gestures...

    The attacks on Tesla dealerships are reminiscent of the left wing terror that swept Germany in the 1970s. Executives at the Berlin factory should be upgrading their security.
    and Williamglenn is reminiscent of Joseph Goebbels.

    btw attacks on Tesla dealerships are happening in the US, so I'm not sure why the Tesla executives in Berlin should be especially careful.
    Nah, someone mentioned earlier in the week that he is a latter day former Eurofederalist HawHaw.
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