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  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 54,673
    geoffw said:

    Why on earth were the Baltics not invited?
    Black mark on the UK government no matter how the meeting went.

    The tail can’t wag the dog. Europe’s big dogs need to work out between themselves what they are willing to do.
  • geoffwgeoffw Posts: 8,990
    edited March 2
    TimS said:

    I assume by mutual agreement, and with Poland representing them.
    You're wrong. They are quite upset about it. They are in the front line.

  • malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 44,020

    Whether or not too many Ukrainian sons have died is not a decision for us, or the West. It’s a decision for them. They are literally fighting for the survival of their country. I really hope that should Britain find itself in such a position, our allies are not making the same pathetic arguments as yours. Your arguments are straight out of the Putin propaganda book.
    Yanks only like easy wars or ones that make them cash.
  • TimSTimS Posts: 14,816
    MaxPB said:

    Executive Assistant, the new job title for Secretary.
    The American word. Hopefully one of the fallouts from last Friday will be less US biz-speak and more good British stuff like “close of play” - to my knowledge the only British sporting metaphor to have made it into day to day American jargon,
  • malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 44,020

    I don't think Ukraine has ever asked us to do those things
    Topping has lost it.
  • BartholomewRobertsBartholomewRoberts Posts: 23,292
    TimS said:

    The American word. Hopefully one of the fallouts from last Friday will be less US biz-speak and more good British stuff like “close of play” - to my knowledge the only British sporting metaphor to have made it into day to day American jargon,
    Trump is just loopy, not snooker loopy.
  • malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 44,020
    MaxPB said:

    Executive Assistant, the new job title for Secretary.
    Cheers Max
  • state_go_awaystate_go_away Posts: 5,850

    It's always interesting to consider how you would react if you found yourself a citizen of a country that had been invaded by a fascist state - like France in 1940.

    Many people like to think they would be a member of the resistance; heroically fighting the enemy. Most people thinking that are deluded. An alternative is someone just trying to get on with life, minding their own business. Then there are those who would willingly collaborate, and even those who would willingly help and join the occupier.

    Which would you do? Given your attitude on here, I guess you would not be a heroic member of the resistance. A collaborator, perhaps?
    you just sound pompous now which you do a lot . Anyway nothing stopping you fighting now is there? Go on - be something more than a keyboard soldier (and one who claims moral purity as well)
  • BurgessianBurgessian Posts: 2,954
    malcolmg said:

    Yanks only like easy wars or ones that make them cash.
    Depends on the Yanks, Malc. There are some very decent ones. Trouble is the barrel-scrapings got into the White House.
  • malcolmg said:

    Cheers Max
    The amazing thing is there’s website called “Google” where you can ask dumb questions like this one. The other positive is I don’t have to read your posts.
  • BartholomewRobertsBartholomewRoberts Posts: 23,292

    you just sound pompous now which you do a lot . Anyway nothing stopping you fighting now is there? Go on - be something more than a keyboard soldier (and one who claims moral purity as well)
    Again pretending as if nobody is already fighting over their, willingly.

    All we are saying is we should support those who are fighting as long as they want our support - why would you possibly object to that?

    Why should we pull the rug from under them?
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 39,794
    TimS said:

    The American word. Hopefully one of the fallouts from last Friday will be less US biz-speak and more good British stuff like “close of play” - to my knowledge the only British sporting metaphor to have made it into day to day American jargon,
    I had to Google "PTO" when someone used it on Slack at my last company which had a big American and Irish contingent. Just couldn't figure it out.
  • another_richardanother_richard Posts: 27,485
    Nigelb said:

    Trudeau stumbles on the reason Trump is so keen on Putin.

    … It’s important at every chance we get to lay out the facts as clearly as possible.
    In 2014 Russia chose to invade Ukraine, to occupy Crimea and parts of eastern Ukraine. For that, they were kicked out of the G7 and in 2022 they chose to violate the existing cease fire and invaded Ukraine with the intention of taking Kyiv in three days and the entire country in three weeks.
    That has failed.
    Russia continues to try to fight to claim more land in Ukraine.
    We could see an end to this war tomorrow if Russia decided to stop its illegal invasion of Ukraine.
    On Friday in the Oval Office, President Zelenskyy pointed out in so many words that Vladimir Putin is a liar and a criminal and cannot be trusted to keep his word in any way, shape or form, because he has demonstrated time and time again that he will break any agreements...

    This is the odd thing.

    Trump is a liar and a cheat and nobody trusts any guarantees he might give.

    So why doesn't he give the guarantees ?

    He really is crap at deal making.
  • Pro_RataPro_Rata Posts: 5,560
    TimS said:

    The American word. Hopefully one of the fallouts from last Friday will be less US biz-speak and more good British stuff like “close of play” - to my knowledge the only British sporting metaphor to have made it into day to day American jargon,
    50 years ago much of middle management had secretaries, now it is only the executives.
  • BartholomewRobertsBartholomewRoberts Posts: 23,292

    The amazing thing is there’s website called “Google” where you can ask dumb questions like this one. The other positive is I don’t have to read your posts.
    Rather unnecessary, especially since it isn't clear even with Google as it depends upon how it was meant.

    The main EA that would be associated by many people with clubs like MK Dons is EA Sports, publishers of FC 25 (formerly FIFA Football).
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 76,372
    Denmark will officially reopen the Ammunitionsarsenalet AMA ammunition plant in North Jutland, with the Norwegian-Finnish defence giant Nammo running the 350-year-old facility.

    The Danish government will rush to get production lines running as soon as possible.

    https://x.com/Osinttechnical/status/1895902276956668134
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 54,673
    https://x.com/nigel_farage/status/1896294594134065168

    Brexit Britain is now the link between Europe and the USA.

    The UK is in a unique position to form a 'coalition of the willing' to secure a lasting peace.

    Thank goodness we left the EU — and this country can stand tall on the world stage once again.
  • StuartinromfordStuartinromford Posts: 18,259
    Meanwhile, in "dress properly to visit a Head of State" news, anyone know what those things hanging off the hooks by the Sandringham door are?




    At first glance, they look like a more regal version of the snoodie I wear when I'm working from home and don't want to put the central heating on.
  • another_richardanother_richard Posts: 27,485
    MaxPB said:

    I had to Google "PTO" when someone used it on Slack at my last company which had a big American and Irish contingent. Just couldn't figure it out.
    Paid time off ???

    paid time off; personal time off: a block of hours that combines all of an employee’s paid sick days, personal days, and vacation time

    I've never even heard it before as a concept.

    Certainly any place I've ever worked would not look well on a worker who thought sick days and holidays were interchangeable.
  • carnforthcarnforth Posts: 5,618

    What an arse
    He is overstating the case, but no evidence of the much-vaunted "post-brexit irrelevance" in London today.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 54,025
    edited March 2
    During the Yugoslav wars of the 90s, the same arguments were trotted out.

    - that arming the victims of the Serbian aggression would just Level The Killing Field
    - That the Bosnians and Croats needed to accept The Facts On The Ground.
    - And indeed they needed to be kicked to their knees to get them to the peace table. Because their obduracy in fighting was preventing Peace.

    I still recall a TV interview with an eminent diplomat vs a lady from Bosnia. He said that by fighting on they were throwing away lives.

    She pointed out that the genocidal behaviour of the Serb auxiliaries made resistance vital.

    Also that not acting was an action - that by enforcing an arms embargo on one side*, they were playing chess with her life. Even as they stood by and talked of peace.

    I recall the diplomat was flabbergasted at her lack of awe at his wisdom and eminence.

    *the Serb had much of the Yugoslav army setup and were freely supplied by Russia.
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 22,646
    MaxPB said:

    I had to Google "PTO" when someone used it on Slack at my last company which had a big American and Irish contingent. Just couldn't figure it out.
    Please turn over?

    I am now looking at the back of my phone.

    BTW, an "Executive Assistant" is an assistant to an executive, not an assistant who is an executive.

    I say this as someone who laughably has the word "Director" in my job title, when the only thing I direct at work is my piss into the urinal.
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 51,068

    What an arse
    His plan was for us to become America’s little mini-me. Now he is having to rethink!
  • StillWatersStillWaters Posts: 9,676

    He will say that just as soon as he can find a way of linking all that to immigration.
    Putin is encouraging illegal immigration to Ukraine?

    It’s Putin’s fault that there are all these Ukrainian refugees flooding into the UK?
  • JohnLilburneJohnLilburne Posts: 6,574
    MaxPB said:

    I had to Google "PTO" when someone used it on Slack at my last company which had a big American and Irish contingent. Just couldn't figure it out.
    Power Take-Off
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 19,148
    From what little I've heard not much of any use has emerged from the meeting today to ensure that Ukraine can prevail despite the presence of Putinists in the White House.

    Trump and Vance are not democrats. They are mobsters. They do not share our values. They will not incur any cost in order to defend our principles.

    We have to accept the new reality and act accordingly.
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 38,443

    you just sound pompous now which you do a lot . Anyway nothing stopping you fighting now is there? Go on - be something more than a keyboard soldier (and one who claims moral purity as well)
    You seem rather lacking in the balls department.
  • state_go_awaystate_go_away Posts: 5,850
    Sean_F said:

    You seem rather lacking in the balls department.
    you on the front line as well then ? what a stupid comment from somebody who will never be in any more danger than a blunt fingernail from typing silly insults
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 38,443

    During the Yugoslav wars of the 90s, the same arguments were trotted out.

    - that arming the victims of the Serbian aggression would just Level The Killing Field
    - That the Bosnians and Croats needed to accept The Facts On The Ground.
    - And indeed they needed to be kicked to their knees to get them to the peace table. Because their obduracy in fighting was preventing Peace.

    I still recall a TV interview with an eminent diplomat vs a lady from Bosnia. He said that by fighting on they were throwing away lives.

    She pointed out that the genocidal behaviour of the Serb auxiliaries made resistance vital.

    Also that not acting was an action - that by enforcing an arms embargo on one side*, they were playing chess with her life. Even as they stood by and talked of peace.

    I recall the diplomat was flabbergasted at her lack of awe at his wisdom and eminence.

    *the Serb had much of the Yugoslav army setup and were freely supplied by Russia.

    It’s an argument that is both immoral, and morally cowardly, as it’s proponent is clearly backing a side, without wishing to state it outright.
  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 43,658
    malcolmg said:

    Topping has lost it.
    Malcy I think you have been imbibing too many tots of Old Mull. Sorry to see you are joining the fantasists of PB.
  • kamskikamski Posts: 6,319

    ...

    The essay you link to is interesting, but many of the statements in the introduction (I have not read further) don't seem to me to bear much scrutiny. Assad is accused of "buying oil from ISIS" and "buying grain from ISIS" - but what else does one do when ISIS controls the oil fields and the grain fields? Let the population starve in the dark?

    He is also accused in the intro of "attacking the moderate rebels instead of ISIS" again I'm not sure what is to be expected of someone fighting a civil war. There were many flavours of rebel in the conflict, but few of them were moderate. I don't see how Assad could have prosecuted the war differently. Driven past the moderate rebels (taking fire) to get to ISIS?

    I am a lot more persuaded by the regime's early support for ISIS in Iraq, which seems likely, and just proves that one should never work through such groups, as it always comes back to bite you.

    Yes, the SDF is in a perilous position, but the reason that this makes ISIS more likely to rise again is that the HTS regime, which is ideologically adjacent to ISIS, will then be left holding the keys to the ISIS prisoners. You may find this piece interesting:

    https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/isis-is-filling-the-vacuum-in-syria/

    I supported Assad as the least worst option. Sadly events are proving me right, again. Every time the West gets on its white charger and decides to get rid of some nasty strongman, things invariably get worse, mostly much worse. It's a lesson we seem to need to learn again and again. I would like us, in Britain if nowhere else, to sort out our own issues, and stop trying to fix the rest of the world because they don't do things the way that we would like them to.
    So all of my statements were either true, or at least arguable. Rather than 'a collection of statements that bear no relation to each other or the truth'.

    What is your position? It's hard to tell, but you seem to think the US should withdraw entirely from Syria, and yet you also don't want ISIS prisoners released. This is completely incoherent.

    You also say 'the West gets on its white charger and decides to get rid of some nasty strong man' - as if you imagine it was the West that got rid of Assad. Is that what you think? Because that only demonstrates total ignorance about what happened in Syria. Are you really willing to support a dictator who murdered hundreds of thousands of civilians while obviously not having informed yourself of the basic facts? I'm sorry but it's fucking disgusting.
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 38,443
    edited March 2

    you on the front line as well then ? what a stupid comment from somebody who will never be in any more danger than a blunt fingernail from typing silly insults

    You’re cowering at Russia from hundreds of miles away, and demanding we throw people under the bus who possess what you so plainly lack - a backbone.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 65,358

    Alfie Tobutt
    @AlfieTobutt
    ·
    3m
    THE NORTHERN ECHO: Chancellor’s northern no-show #TomorrowsPapersToday

    https://x.com/AlfieTobutt/status/1896313205242396997
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 76,372

    https://x.com/nigel_farage/status/1896294594134065168

    Brexit Britain is now the link between Europe and the USA.

    The UK is in a unique position to form a 'coalition of the willing' to secure a lasting peace.

    Thank goodness we left the EU — and this country can stand tall on the world stage once again.

    Pretty desperate attempt at relevance.

    Shames every Nigel.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 31,087
    ...

    https://x.com/nigel_farage/status/1896294594134065168

    Brexit Britain is now the link between Europe and the USA.

    The UK is in a unique position to form a 'coalition of the willing' to secure a lasting peace.

    Thank goodness we left the EU — and this country can stand tall on the world stage once again.

    It seemed to be Europe v America today. Nigel went AWOL and missed all the excitement.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 38,011
    MaxPB said:

    I had to Google "PTO" when someone used it on Slack at my last company which had a big American and Irish contingent. Just couldn't figure it out.
    It's a more accurate term than "annual leave"
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 31,087
    TOPPING said:

    Malcy I think you have been imbibing too many tots of Old Mull. Sorry to see you are joining the fantasists of PB.
    Toppers calm down old bean. Have you been reading too many William Glenn and O Lucky Man posts?
  • TOPPING seems to be one of the few who is asking what ending the war means in practice.
  • Keir Starmer seems to be very good at diplomacy. Is this a new era of his Premiership where he’s growing into the role or just a temporary blip?
  • OnlyLivingBoyOnlyLivingBoy Posts: 16,383
    malcolmg said:

    Yanks only like easy wars or ones that make them cash.
    Americans' top war was the one they fought against each other. IIRC they lost more in the Civil War than in all other wars combined. Perhaps it's like with sport - they only really like playing their own weird games against each other.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 65,358

    Keir Starmer seems to be very good at diplomacy. Is this a new era of his Premiership where he’s growing into the role or just a temporary blip?

    He has at least two top aides: Jonathan Powell and Peter Mandelson.

    And iirc he takes advice from Bew who has been FO policy wonk in No 10 since Johnson days.
  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 43,658
    edited March 2
    Sean_F said:

    You seem rather lacking in the balls department.
    You are a lawyer, a military historian, and an Old Gower. What on earth are you doing making infantile insults on the internet ffs.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 54,397

    From what little I've heard not much of any use has emerged from the meeting today to ensure that Ukraine can prevail despite the presence of Putinists in the White House.

    Trump and Vance are not democrats. They are mobsters. They do not share our values. They will not incur any cost in order to defend our principles.

    We have to accept the new reality and act accordingly.

    Let's hope that there is bloody watertight security around the real state of agreement between the friends of Ukraine, and that any follow up with the White House is equally discreet.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 65,358

    TOPPING seems to be one of the few who is asking what ending the war means in practice.

    Crimea becomes a Trump golf course. The rest of Ukr is free to join the EU.

    Nothing less is acceptable.
  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 13,542
    Donald’s and Melania Trump’s cryptocurrencies have both largely collapsed: https://www.uniladtech.com/news/tech-news/donald-trump-supporters-lose-12-billion-after-meme-coin-collapse-393345-20250228 The Trumps make $$$, Trump fans lose $$$.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 54,025
    a

    Donald’s and Melania Trump’s cryptocurrencies have both largely collapsed: https://www.uniladtech.com/news/tech-news/donald-trump-supporters-lose-12-billion-after-meme-coin-collapse-393345-20250228 The Trumps make $$$, Trump fans lose $$$.

    Trump scams his own followers. Film at 11.
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 24,098
    Scott_xP said:

    It's a more accurate term than "annual leave"
    Paid. Time. Off.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 76,372

    TOPPING seems to be one of the few who is asking what ending the war means in practice.

    He might be asking, but he's certainly not volunteering much.
  • Jesus, Farage had all weekend and he’s decided to make this about Brexit? Is he dumb?
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 65,358
    edited March 2
    One reason I am glad we now not in the EU. This Putin c*nt still is...



    Orbán Viktor
    @PM_ViktorOrban
    ·
    34m
    European leaders decided in London today that they want to go on with the war instead of opting for peace. They decided that Ukraine must continue the war.

    This is bad, dangerous and mistaken. Hungary remains on the side of peace. Ceterum censeo.
  • another_richardanother_richard Posts: 27,485

    Americans' top war was the one they fought against each other. IIRC they lost more in the Civil War than in all other wars combined. Perhaps it's like with sport - they only really like playing their own weird games against each other.
    Perhaps its why they're so relaxed about gun deaths in their own country but so unwilling to accept casualties in foreign wars.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 54,397

    Mandelson is a fucking idiot. Starmer needs to reign him in fast.
    Trump and Vance will certainly jump on it. "Even the top Brit gets it!"
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 76,372

    I have to agree. It doesn't change my positive views of Brexit but just as I hate the false claims about various specific bad things being because of Brexit, I also hate to see spurious and false claims about anything good being about Brexit.

    In this instance this is all about Britain and France being the leading defence powers on the continent of Europe*. It has nothing to do with whether we are in or out of the EU.

    *Of course this will change in the near future as Poland joins or surpasses Britain and France in military capability
    As you know, Richard, we voted differently on Brexit, and argued rather a lot.
    But I think we agree on quite a lot of the pros and cons, despite that.
  • Richard_TyndallRichard_Tyndall Posts: 33,243

    Trump and Vance will certainly jump on it. "Even the top Brit gets it!"
    All the main UK parties need to sort their loose cannons out. Patel earlier today and now Mandelson.
  • No_Offence_AlanNo_Offence_Alan Posts: 4,948
    edited March 2

    a

    Trump scams his own followers. Film at 11.
    Don't worry, he will use American taxpayers' real money to boost them up again
  • Richard is one of the few that might have convinced me to vote for Brexit.
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 64,989


    James Cleverly🇬🇧
    @JamesCleverly
    ·
    39m
    Starmer has done the right thing today.

    We will need to go further, and bring other countries with us, but he has put the UK into a genuine position of leadership in support of #Ukraine.

    I’ll criticise when he gets things wrong, but today he’s done the right thing.

    Good to see the conservative party exercising grown up politics

    Time to sideline Patel though
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 31,087


    James Cleverly🇬🇧
    @JamesCleverly
    ·
    39m
    Starmer has done the right thing today.

    We will need to go further, and bring other countries with us, but he has put the UK into a genuine position of leadership in support of #Ukraine.

    I’ll criticise when he gets things wrong, but today he’s done the right thing.

    We need to hear Sir Boris's analysis.
  • scampi25scampi25 Posts: 86
    Nigelb said:

    Denmark will officially reopen the Ammunitionsarsenalet AMA ammunition plant in North Jutland, with the Norwegian-Finnish defence giant Nammo running the 350-year-old facility.

    The Danish government will rush to get production lines running as soon as possible.

    https://x.com/Osinttechnical/status/1895902276956668134

    It's practical steps like this that make so much more sense than the fine words!
  • Johnson would have sold Ukraine up the river had it benefited him. That much is obvious from his drivel over the last week.

    Current Tories are much better than that. So credit there.
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 64,989
    Sky

    Zelenskyy ready to sign the minerals deal
  • another_richardanother_richard Posts: 27,485

    All the main UK parties need to sort their loose cannons out. Patel earlier today and now Mandelson.
    For too many politicians being in the news is worth causing damage to others.
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 39,794

    I have to agree. It doesn't change my positive views of Brexit but just as I hate the false claims about various specific bad things being because of Brexit, I also hate to see spurious and false claims about anything good being about Brexit.

    In this instance this is all about Britain and France being the leading defence powers on the continent of Europe*. It has nothing to do with whether we are in or out of the EU.

    *Of course this will change in the near future as Poland joins or surpasses Britain and France in military capability
    I think this position we're in now would be much more difficult to hold if we were in the EU. That we're not in the EU is one of the reasons we have a fully independent foreign policy again which means we can have Mandy out there saying the unpalatable to get Trump back around the table. Last time the UK took a backseat to the EU and Germany and the deal was a pile of compromised shit with no security guarantees to prevent Russia from breaking it. Now that we're not beholden to the EU agenda it means we're finding it much easier to set it rather than follow someone else's tune. We don't have to agree with 27 other nations before we set out our stall. It gives us a leadership position that we can't otherwise have and it also allows France to get on board as co-leader outside of the EU defined structure.

    If the UK was still in the EU this would be playing out very differently, we'd be having to corral all of the other nations before any agreed statements could be signed off, the military build up would be being funneled via the EU rather than by nation states and the whole agenda would be coming from Brussels rather than from London and Paris.

    Brexit has sidelined the EU from a foreign policy perspective, it's actually becoming much clearer that without the UK the EU has lost a very, very big chunk of diplomatic weight and France isn't able to hold it up alone. This is a positive development because the EU is useless at foreign policy.
  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 43,658
    Nigelb said:

    He might be asking, but he's certainly not volunteering much.
    I can't call what people involved will be willing to give up. I do know however that all parties will need to be pragmatic.

    Which simple admission is already hugely more insightful than the wishful thinking on display by most of PB today.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 65,358

    Good to see the conservative party exercising grown up politics

    Time to sideline Patel though
    I've missed Patel today. What did she do?
  • TOPPING said:

    I can't call what people involved will be willing to give up. I do know however that all parties will need to be pragmatic.

    Which simple admission is already hugely more insightful than the wishful thinking on display by most of PB today.
    It seems obvious to me that any deal is going to see Ukraine lose territory. Is this controversial?
  • StillWatersStillWaters Posts: 9,676
    malcolmg said:

    What is an EA
    Executive assistant
  • Executive assistant
    Are you from the past?
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 24,098

    Are you from the past?
    Well, they're not going to be from the future, now are they?
  • glwglw Posts: 10,343
    Nigelb said:

    Second.
    Thales just announced 200 more jobs in Belfast to build the Starstreaks.

    This isn’t quite 100% true, but there a very solid kernel of truth in there.

    US finally made Europe spend trillions on arms but also excluded itself from that market. I’m sure that’s not what the US defense industry would call ”the art of the deal”.
    https://x.com/Bergquizt/status/1896275918018248968

    Weapons are just the beginning, from a strategic point of view we need to treat US technology like that of China. The US has too much power to interfere with the operation of our societies. We should be ripping US technology out as soon as we can, which admittedly won't be for years, but we have to do it.
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 30,627
    IanB2 said:

    I always thought ChatGPT isn’t uploaded with recent internet and couldn’t comment on topical events?

    Anyhow, PB’ers who were here this morning already witnessed a superlative demonstration of where a combination of AI and sub-par human intelligence can take you. It wasn’t pretty.
    The paid ChatGPT versions have access to the current internet. The rest has up to 2 years ago.
  • StillWatersStillWaters Posts: 9,676
    MaxPB said:

    Executive Assistant, the new job title for Secretary.
    Disagree. EAs, PAs and secretaries have different roles and responsibilities
  • scampi25scampi25 Posts: 86

    Mandelson is a fucking idiot. Starmer needs to rein him in fast.
    I expect Mandelson acted with full knowledge of KS. It fits well with his words this afternoon and the plan to bring back the US on board.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 54,397
    TOPPING said:

    I can't call what people involved will be willing to give up. I do know however that all parties will need to be pragmatic.

    Which simple admission is already hugely more insightful than the wishful thinking on display by most of PB today.
    You think after destroying his army, his economy - that Putin can afford to be pragmatic without the defenestration out of a high Kremlin window?

    Not happening.
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 44,617

    Power Take-Off
    Pacific Theater of Operations. (WW2.)
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 64,989

    I've missed Patel today. What did she do?
    According to reports not very helpful
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 31,087
    ...

    Sky

    Zelenskyy ready to sign up to the protection racket

    Corrected for you.
  • scampi25scampi25 Posts: 86

    Sky

    Zelenskyy ready to sign the minerals deal

    As I was saying.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 38,011
    The Royal family has been fairly spanking the colonials today...

    The responses to this have been particularly choice

    @nicksortor
    You going on the frontlines too, King Charles?

    Maybe some of your children?



    Ummmmmmmmmmmmm...
  • StillWatersStillWaters Posts: 9,676
    Nigelb said:

    Pretty desperate attempt at relevance.

    Shames every Nigel.
    Are you looking to rake his position as NigelA?
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 64,989
    edited March 2

    ...

    Corrected for you.
    Rather than change posts that you have not written, maybe make the change in your own @Mexicanpete
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 55,088
    Yokes said:

    This isnt complicated:

    1. Europe needs to financially support the Ukraine war effort on the basis the US is out
    2. It needs to spend some of its own money and use those frozen Russian assets, not the interest, the assets, neatly ensuring Russia remains broke post war
    3. Most of the basics of what Ukraine needs can be sourced internationally. The EU spent far too long talking about its own defence industry which couldnt supply enough whilst it should have been going elsewhere to get supplies. It eventually did but it was late and the amounts in that particular plan were not enough
    4. It needs to pony up a large additional amount of cash, say 100billion over 3 years and offer it to buy US defence goods, particularly in the area of force multiplication where the best kit tends to be US, and dare the US government to say no.
    5. It needs to open its stores and empty them to Ukraine because, believe me, there is plenty still there.
    6. Offer a rare earth deal to Ukraine because these assets are just as important to Europe as they are to the US, particularly the US defence industry....
    7. Stop fucking about and just do it

    The direct Russian military threat, as evidenced by Ukraine isnt quite as mighty as it looks. The Europeans have time to build their own defence whilst giving full whack to Ukraine now.

    Will they do it? Probably not, because for all Trumps arseholishness and the fact he is in Russia's pocket, he is right on one thing. Europe freeloaded off the US security umbrella for decades.

    What do you mean by "force multiplication"? What are you suggesting we buy from the US?
  • solarflaresolarflare Posts: 3,900
    Carnyx said:

    Pacific Theater of Operations. (WW2.)
    Piss Time O'Clock?
  • @Mexicanpete you need to be locked up you menace
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 76,372
    glw said:

    Weapons are just the beginning, from a strategic point of view we need to treat US technology like that of China. The US has too much power to interfere with the operation of our societies. We should be ripping US technology out as soon as we can, which admittedly won't be for years, but we have to do it.
    I doubt it’s quite as simple as that, since the integration is so deep - and to some extent applies in the opposite direction too.

    But Europe certainly needs to again to become a significant manufacturing power in key technologies, both military and civilian.
    The US recently woke up to the fact that if it surrendered manufacturing to Asia, it would eventually lose out in the technology race too.

    It’s not quite too late for us to do the same, and it’s just possible this might be a catalyst which contributes to that.
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 30,627
    MaxPB said:

    I had to Google "PTO" when someone used it on Slack at my last company which had a big American and Irish contingent. Just couldn't figure it out.
    Please turn over?
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 59,190

    The paid ChatGPT versions have access to the current internet. The rest has up to 2 years ago.
    Specifically: ChatGPT can search the internet to find more recent information. Perplexity and Grok can also do this, while Claude cannot.

    Personally, I now self host Open WebUI and plug that into Groq on the backend. (I also plug it into OpenAI and OpenRouter.)

    This means that (a) I get access to all the leading models, (b) they typically run a lot faster (particularly the ones hosted on Groq), (c) all models get access to the web, and (d) it costs me maybe $10/month, which is a massive saving on what I'd pay if I wanted access to Perplexity + DeepSeek + Anthropic + OpenAI.

    It's a bit of work, but well worth it.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 54,025

    It seems obvious to me that any deal is going to see Ukraine lose territory. Is this controversial?
    No.

    Where it becomes… interesting… is that a win for Russia (Putin) involves taking about half of Ukraine including the entire coastline.

    So there cannot be a peace deal until that happens. Which means that Ukraine must be bought to its knees first. For Peace.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 31,087
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    @Mexicanpete you need to be locked up you menace

    There is always the flag button.
  • StillWatersStillWaters Posts: 9,676

    We need to hear Sir Boris's analysis.
    No. Actually we don’t. The world would be a better place if we never heard from Mr Johnson ever again
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 64,989
    Beth Rigby of Sky reporting that as we are not In the EU it gives Starmer the space to negotiate with Trump and Starmer is an unexpected peacemaker

    Brexit dividend !!!!
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 31,087

    Rather than change posts that you have not written, maybe make the change in your own @Mexicanpete
    I didn't change your original post just your post within mine. Minerals deal my arse. It's a mafia style protection racket.
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