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  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 53,241

    10 Reform councillors resign in attack on Farage's leadership

    Who will be the first Reform MP to resign?
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 72,907
    edited January 10
    HYUFD said:

    Nigelb said:

    .

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    TimS said:

    Leon said:

    TimS said:

    This Zuckerberg/Rogan interview is a big moment:

    https://x.com/libsoftiktok/status/1877785122314875330

    Mark Zuckerberg says the Biden admin called his employees and “screamed and cursed” at them to take down Covid/vaccine content. They wanted Meta to censor memes too.

    When he pushed back, the Biden regime started investigating his companies.

    “It was brutal.”

    What a whiny little bitch he is.
    Wasn’t the banning of Trump from FB by Zuckerberg’s personal intervention, or is he now saying he was bullied into it by his own thought police?
    It’s all a bit like the Death of Stalin.
    Incredible how cowed everyone over there is. I’ve seen it in my working environment.
    Alternatively, social media and Silicon Valley really was precociously and ferociously tyrannised by wokeness - remember the Google engineers email, remember the Gemini image debacle - and they are therefore the first to eagerly throw it off. PLUS they are grovelling to Trump

    These two things can be true at once. Indeed they are
    Seriously, people are cowed. They keep blocking or demanding to rewrite anything I want to put out for clients on the new administration, because they “don’t want to be seen as negative on Trump”.

    But what I’m writing is factual. Simply writing things like “trade war” or “protectionist policy” or even “deficit” gets the censors going.

    I had to pull a newspaper article at the behest of my American colleagues and write something else. We’re talking dry uncontroversial stuff in the business press.
    That’s being professional, not being cowed. The difference between now and 2016 is that the Democrats have genuinely conceded instead of fighting a rearguard action to delegitimise Trump.
    Well they don't have much choice, this time Trump won the popular vote as well as the EC and GOP control of Congress.

    However the midterms are now just under 2 years away and if Trump's tariffs are increasing cost of living the Democrats will hope to retake Congress and if they do will almost certainly push to impeach him
    Impeach him for what?
    Anything they want, he has plenty he has done already they could use. Republicans even impeached President Clinton for receiving oral sex in the Oval Office once they took control of Congress in the midterms
    Unless they have a 2/3rds majority in the Senate, it would be a pointless, and almost certainly counterproductive exercise.
    They almost certainly would do though, if they won majorities in both chambers in 2026 Democrats would see that as a mandate for Trump's impeachment.
    There are (extreme) circumstances in which they might, but it seems pretty unlikely to me.
    They'd probably be much happier just frustrating his attempts to do stuff.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 36,166

    10 Reform councillors resign in attack on Farage's leadership

    Who will be the first Reform MP to resign?
    or get sacked...

    https://x.com/BestForBritain/status/1877664736180949242
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 72,907
    This is unfair.
    It's reported that he ran not one, but two non profits ... into bankruptcy.

    Duckworth: Trump’s Pentagon pick has less experience than Applebee’s manager
    https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/5079732-trump-hegseth-pentagon-duckworth/
  • FF43FF43 Posts: 17,385
    rcs1000 said:

    HYUFD said:

    rcs1000 said:

    HYUFD said:

    TimS said:

    Leon said:

    TimS said:

    This Zuckerberg/Rogan interview is a big moment:

    https://x.com/libsoftiktok/status/1877785122314875330

    Mark Zuckerberg says the Biden admin called his employees and “screamed and cursed” at them to take down Covid/vaccine content. They wanted Meta to censor memes too.

    When he pushed back, the Biden regime started investigating his companies.

    “It was brutal.”

    What a whiny little bitch he is.
    Wasn’t the banning of Trump from FB by Zuckerberg’s personal intervention, or is he now saying he was bullied into it by his own thought police?
    It’s all a bit like the Death of Stalin.
    Incredible how cowed everyone over there is. I’ve seen it in my working environment.
    Alternatively, social media and Silicon Valley really was precociously and ferociously tyrannised by wokeness - remember the Google engineers email, remember the Gemini image debacle - and they are therefore the first to eagerly throw it off. PLUS they are grovelling to Trump

    These two things can be true at once. Indeed they are
    Seriously, people are cowed. They keep blocking or demanding to rewrite anything I want to put out for clients on the new administration, because they “don’t want to be seen as negative on Trump”.

    But what I’m writing is factual. Simply writing things like “trade war” or “protectionist policy” or even “deficit” gets the censors going.

    I had to pull a newspaper article at the behest of my American colleagues and write something else. We’re talking dry uncontroversial stuff in the business press.
    That’s being professional, not being cowed. The difference between now and 2016 is that the Democrats have genuinely conceded instead of fighting a rearguard action to delegitimise Trump.
    Well they don't have much choice, this time Trump won the popular vote as well as the EC and GOP control of Congress.

    However the midterms are now just under 2 years away and if Trump's tariffs are increasing cost of living the Democrats will hope to retake Congress and if they do will almost certainly push to impeach him
    They might well take control of Congress even sooner, given they've already lost one member of their caucus to defection, and Elise Stefanik's district is not that safe. If they do lose the special election, then the House will be 218-1-216.
    They need the Senate too though for full control
    Agreed, and that will be quite a reach for the Dems.

    I think Susan Collins is toast in Maine, and North Carolina will probably be a Dem gain too. Which takes you to 51-49.

    After that, it's a bit harder: Alaska, Iowa, Texas and Ohio are all possible, but all stretches.
    If the Trump faction is as vulnerable as that, it raises the question why Zuckerberg et al should throw his lot in so emphatically with that faction
  • eekeek Posts: 28,774
    FF43 said:

    rcs1000 said:

    HYUFD said:

    rcs1000 said:

    HYUFD said:

    TimS said:

    Leon said:

    TimS said:

    This Zuckerberg/Rogan interview is a big moment:

    https://x.com/libsoftiktok/status/1877785122314875330

    Mark Zuckerberg says the Biden admin called his employees and “screamed and cursed” at them to take down Covid/vaccine content. They wanted Meta to censor memes too.

    When he pushed back, the Biden regime started investigating his companies.

    “It was brutal.”

    What a whiny little bitch he is.
    Wasn’t the banning of Trump from FB by Zuckerberg’s personal intervention, or is he now saying he was bullied into it by his own thought police?
    It’s all a bit like the Death of Stalin.
    Incredible how cowed everyone over there is. I’ve seen it in my working environment.
    Alternatively, social media and Silicon Valley really was precociously and ferociously tyrannised by wokeness - remember the Google engineers email, remember the Gemini image debacle - and they are therefore the first to eagerly throw it off. PLUS they are grovelling to Trump

    These two things can be true at once. Indeed they are
    Seriously, people are cowed. They keep blocking or demanding to rewrite anything I want to put out for clients on the new administration, because they “don’t want to be seen as negative on Trump”.

    But what I’m writing is factual. Simply writing things like “trade war” or “protectionist policy” or even “deficit” gets the censors going.

    I had to pull a newspaper article at the behest of my American colleagues and write something else. We’re talking dry uncontroversial stuff in the business press.
    That’s being professional, not being cowed. The difference between now and 2016 is that the Democrats have genuinely conceded instead of fighting a rearguard action to delegitimise Trump.
    Well they don't have much choice, this time Trump won the popular vote as well as the EC and GOP control of Congress.

    However the midterms are now just under 2 years away and if Trump's tariffs are increasing cost of living the Democrats will hope to retake Congress and if they do will almost certainly push to impeach him
    They might well take control of Congress even sooner, given they've already lost one member of their caucus to defection, and Elise Stefanik's district is not that safe. If they do lose the special election, then the House will be 218-1-216.
    They need the Senate too though for full control
    Agreed, and that will be quite a reach for the Dems.

    I think Susan Collins is toast in Maine, and North Carolina will probably be a Dem gain too. Which takes you to 51-49.

    After that, it's a bit harder: Alaska, Iowa, Texas and Ohio are all possible, but all stretches.
    If the Trump faction is as vulnerable as that, it raises the question why Zuckerberg et al should throw his lot in so emphatically with that faction
    Because he doesn't want to go the way of TikTok in the States which will be closed down a week Sunday (19th)..
  • FF43 said:

    rcs1000 said:

    HYUFD said:

    rcs1000 said:

    HYUFD said:

    TimS said:

    Leon said:

    TimS said:

    This Zuckerberg/Rogan interview is a big moment:

    https://x.com/libsoftiktok/status/1877785122314875330

    Mark Zuckerberg says the Biden admin called his employees and “screamed and cursed” at them to take down Covid/vaccine content. They wanted Meta to censor memes too.

    When he pushed back, the Biden regime started investigating his companies.

    “It was brutal.”

    What a whiny little bitch he is.
    Wasn’t the banning of Trump from FB by Zuckerberg’s personal intervention, or is he now saying he was bullied into it by his own thought police?
    It’s all a bit like the Death of Stalin.
    Incredible how cowed everyone over there is. I’ve seen it in my working environment.
    Alternatively, social media and Silicon Valley really was precociously and ferociously tyrannised by wokeness - remember the Google engineers email, remember the Gemini image debacle - and they are therefore the first to eagerly throw it off. PLUS they are grovelling to Trump

    These two things can be true at once. Indeed they are
    Seriously, people are cowed. They keep blocking or demanding to rewrite anything I want to put out for clients on the new administration, because they “don’t want to be seen as negative on Trump”.

    But what I’m writing is factual. Simply writing things like “trade war” or “protectionist policy” or even “deficit” gets the censors going.

    I had to pull a newspaper article at the behest of my American colleagues and write something else. We’re talking dry uncontroversial stuff in the business press.
    That’s being professional, not being cowed. The difference between now and 2016 is that the Democrats have genuinely conceded instead of fighting a rearguard action to delegitimise Trump.
    Well they don't have much choice, this time Trump won the popular vote as well as the EC and GOP control of Congress.

    However the midterms are now just under 2 years away and if Trump's tariffs are increasing cost of living the Democrats will hope to retake Congress and if they do will almost certainly push to impeach him
    They might well take control of Congress even sooner, given they've already lost one member of their caucus to defection, and Elise Stefanik's district is not that safe. If they do lose the special election, then the House will be 218-1-216.
    They need the Senate too though for full control
    Agreed, and that will be quite a reach for the Dems.

    I think Susan Collins is toast in Maine, and North Carolina will probably be a Dem gain too. Which takes you to 51-49.

    After that, it's a bit harder: Alaska, Iowa, Texas and Ohio are all possible, but all stretches.
    If the Trump faction is as vulnerable as that, it raises the question why Zuckerberg et al should throw his lot in so emphatically with that faction
    Musk. He probably calculates that he'll carry the flame with or without Trump, and he's the main rival.

    I know a lot of people are fed up with us talking about him, but it's an open question as to what extent he will be Planetarchis, what the Greeks call the leader of the world, or Trump.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 33,133
    edited January 10
    Well played Aston Villa, coming from 1-0 down to beat West Ham 2-1 in the FA Cup.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 36,166
    Andy_JS said:

    Well played Aston Villa, coming from 1-0 down to beat West Ham 2-1 in the FA Cup.

    David Cameron is elated, and distraught
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 33,133
    I see Musk has successfully got inside the heads of 10 Reform councillors. 😊
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 72,114
    Andy_JS said:

    I see Musk has successfully got inside the heads of 10 Reform councillors. 😊

    There's doubtless ample space for him.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 53,241

    10 Reform councillors resign in attack on Farage's leadership

    All from Derbyshire.

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2025/jan/10/reform-uk-councillors-to-resign-over-nigel-farage-leadership
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 52,333
    CatMan said:

    Leon said:

    Jeez. Myanmar blocks all VPNs with such vigour if you even have one on your phone it’s an issue. And esims don’t work. And UK sims don’t work in Myanmar. And many wifi networks don’t actually work. Also TwiX is entirely blocked

    The only way I’m getting this message out to you is coz I persuaded a nice girl on Reception to give me the password to the hotel staff wifi. Which works intermittently

    I’m essentially like an RAF pilot, in an attic, in Occupied France, tapping out messages to you on some decrepit morse code machine at the risk of my very life. But with a pillow selection

    Good Moaning
    Good Moaning! I brung you a massage: The Scrumming Ogles has wrotten another Scattish Undependence Throd!
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 50,280

    10 Reform councillors resign in attack on Farage's leadership

    Who will be the first Reform MP to resign?
    Based on past performance, Farage.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 52,333
    edited January 10
    Andy_JS said:

    Well played Aston Villa, coming from 1-0 down to beat West Ham 2-1 in the FA Cup.

    Not so good for West Ham :(
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 52,333
    TimS said:

    Talking of international colleagues, I was talking to Canadians today. They’re all in the “wtf?” zone.

    Too right!

    I mean how can Canada become the "51st State" when they comprise 10 Provinces and 3 Territories? They'd be the 51st through 63rd States!
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 33,133
    edited January 10

    10 Reform councillors resign in attack on Farage's leadership

    All from Derbyshire.

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2025/jan/10/reform-uk-councillors-to-resign-over-nigel-farage-leadership
    Elon Musk's next tweet ought to be something along the lines of "Ay up me ducks", lol.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 63,470
    "We don't invest enough, our productivity is too low, and we don't grow enough"

    El-Erian, leading bond guru and former deputy IMF person and now chair of an Oxbridge college tells Newsnight.

    "Without higher growth and productivity then [UK] is exposed to any shocks, and we live in a shock world"


    Truss at least knew there was a major problem.
  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 11,935

    "We don't invest enough, our productivity is too low, and we don't grow enough"

    El-Erian, leading bond guru and former deputy IMF person and now chair of an Oxbridge college tells Newsnight.

    "Without higher growth and productivity then [UK] is exposed to any shocks, and we live in a shock world"


    Truss at least knew there was a major problem.

    That we want higher growth is not some arcane knowledge that only Truss knew, however. And she ended up doing more to damage growth than most.
  • ohnotnowohnotnow Posts: 4,207

    "We don't invest enough, our productivity is too low, and we don't grow enough"

    El-Erian, leading bond guru and former deputy IMF person and now chair of an Oxbridge college tells Newsnight.

    "Without higher growth and productivity then [UK] is exposed to any shocks, and we live in a shock world"


    Truss at least knew there was a major problem.

    It was a rare moment of self-awareness that morning when she glanced in the mirror.
  • ohnotnowohnotnow Posts: 4,207
    Almost the most off-topic thing of all time, but while flicking about youtube tonight I came across this - for anyone who likes 'odd' or 'wtaf' :

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLJNSD3H5sg

    POSSIBLY IN MICHIGAN (1983)

    Possibly in Michigan is a musical horror story about two young women who are stalked through a shopping mall by the cannibal named Arthur. He follows them home, and here the victims become the aggressors.

    'Animal Cannibal' was written for Possibly in Michigan by Karen Skladany who also plays Janice..
  • ohnotnowohnotnow Posts: 4,207
    edited January 10

    TimS said:

    Talking of international colleagues, I was talking to Canadians today. They’re all in the “wtf?” zone.

    Too right!

    I mean how can Canada become the "51st State" when they comprise 10 Provinces and 3 Territories? They'd be the 51st through 63rd States!
    The new state of "Greater Alaska" beckons it's time on stage. One voter, the rest having sighed, apologised profusely, packed up their Kraft dinners, and moved to Free Quebec.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 72,114
    How on earth did the Post Office not hire him?
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 63,470
    ydoethur said:

    How on earth did the Post Office not hire him?
    The letter didn't get through on time.
  • another_richardanother_richard Posts: 26,887
    rcs1000 said:

    HYUFD said:

    rcs1000 said:

    HYUFD said:

    TimS said:

    Leon said:

    TimS said:

    This Zuckerberg/Rogan interview is a big moment:

    https://x.com/libsoftiktok/status/1877785122314875330

    Mark Zuckerberg says the Biden admin called his employees and “screamed and cursed” at them to take down Covid/vaccine content. They wanted Meta to censor memes too.

    When he pushed back, the Biden regime started investigating his companies.

    “It was brutal.”

    What a whiny little bitch he is.
    Wasn’t the banning of Trump from FB by Zuckerberg’s personal intervention, or is he now saying he was bullied into it by his own thought police?
    It’s all a bit like the Death of Stalin.
    Incredible how cowed everyone over there is. I’ve seen it in my working environment.
    Alternatively, social media and Silicon Valley really was precociously and ferociously tyrannised by wokeness - remember the Google engineers email, remember the Gemini image debacle - and they are therefore the first to eagerly throw it off. PLUS they are grovelling to Trump

    These two things can be true at once. Indeed they are
    Seriously, people are cowed. They keep blocking or demanding to rewrite anything I want to put out for clients on the new administration, because they “don’t want to be seen as negative on Trump”.

    But what I’m writing is factual. Simply writing things like “trade war” or “protectionist policy” or even “deficit” gets the censors going.

    I had to pull a newspaper article at the behest of my American colleagues and write something else. We’re talking dry uncontroversial stuff in the business press.
    That’s being professional, not being cowed. The difference between now and 2016 is that the Democrats have genuinely conceded instead of fighting a rearguard action to delegitimise Trump.
    Well they don't have much choice, this time Trump won the popular vote as well as the EC and GOP control of Congress.

    However the midterms are now just under 2 years away and if Trump's tariffs are increasing cost of living the Democrats will hope to retake Congress and if they do will almost certainly push to impeach him
    They might well take control of Congress even sooner, given they've already lost one member of their caucus to defection, and Elise Stefanik's district is not that safe. If they do lose the special election, then the House will be 218-1-216.
    They need the Senate too though for full control
    Agreed, and that will be quite a reach for the Dems.

    I think Susan Collins is toast in Maine, and North Carolina will probably be a Dem gain too. Which takes you to 51-49.

    After that, it's a bit harder: Alaska, Iowa, Texas and Ohio are all possible, but all stretches.
    Susan Collins might well be a more prominent opponent of Trump than most Dem senators.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 63,470

    "We don't invest enough, our productivity is too low, and we don't grow enough"

    El-Erian, leading bond guru and former deputy IMF person and now chair of an Oxbridge college tells Newsnight.

    "Without higher growth and productivity then [UK] is exposed to any shocks, and we live in a shock world"


    Truss at least knew there was a major problem.

    That we want higher growth is not some arcane knowledge that only Truss knew, however. And she ended up doing more to damage growth than most.
    To be fair to her, and I am feeling charitable tonight after a couple of glasses of the last of the xmas port, she wanted to make it the priority.

  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 63,470

    Acyn
    @Acyn
    ·
    13m

    Reporter: Have you ruled out a pardon for yourself

    Biden:Why should I pardon myself? No, I have no contemplation of pardoning myself. I didn't do anything wrong.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 51,966
    edited January 10

    ydoethur said:

    How on earth did the Post Office not hire him?
    The letter didn't get through on time.
    One of the those not-fake-but-claimed-to-be-fake-stamps.
  • FishingFishing Posts: 5,204

    "We don't invest enough, our productivity is too low, and we don't grow enough"

    El-Erian, leading bond guru and former deputy IMF person and now chair of an Oxbridge college tells Newsnight.

    "Without higher growth and productivity then [UK] is exposed to any shocks, and we live in a shock world"


    Truss at least knew there was a major problem.

    She also had the nerve to do something radical and unpopular about it, unlike almost all other politicians for decades.

    Her heart and many of her instincts were absolutely in the right place.

    It was the execution that was a complete clusterfluck.
  • another_richardanother_richard Posts: 26,887

    "We don't invest enough, our productivity is too low, and we don't grow enough"

    El-Erian, leading bond guru and former deputy IMF person and now chair of an Oxbridge college tells Newsnight.

    "Without higher growth and productivity then [UK] is exposed to any shocks, and we live in a shock world"


    Truss at least knew there was a major problem.

    But instead of doing anything about it she decided to throw vast amounts more at boosting domestic consumption.

    Perhaps because things needed such as affordable housing and better training take years to implement and even more years to have an effect.
  • FishingFishing Posts: 5,204

    TimS said:

    Talking of international colleagues, I was talking to Canadians today. They’re all in the “wtf?” zone.

    Too right!

    I mean how can Canada become the "51st State" when they comprise 10 Provinces and 3 Territories? They'd be the 51st through 63rd States!
    I imagine at least 8 of those states, and maybe all of them, would be safe for the Democrats, making a Republican Senate a pipedream (though Alberta and Manitoba might be competitive) and upsetting the balance in the idiotic electoral college.

    Not sure Trump has really thought this through.

    In fact, of course I'm sure he hasn't.
  • CookieCookie Posts: 14,271
    ohnotnow said:

    Almost the most off-topic thing of all time, but while flicking about youtube tonight I came across this - for anyone who likes 'odd' or 'wtaf' :

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLJNSD3H5sg

    POSSIBLY IN MICHIGAN (1983)

    Possibly in Michigan is a musical horror story about two young women who are stalked through a shopping mall by the cannibal named Arthur. He follows them home, and here the victims become the aggressors.

    'Animal Cannibal' was written for Possibly in Michigan by Karen Skladany who also plays Janice..

    This is brilliant. All culture should be this good.

    I thought it might have something to do with Toto Coelo's early 80s hit "I eat cannibals". But it didn't. Pity, that song always puzzled me and it would be nice to find out it had some context,
  • RattersRatters Posts: 1,119

    10 Reform councillors resign in attack on Farage's leadership

    They'll manage to have a civil war in a parliamentary party that can currently fit into a black cab.

    Their problem is that Farage, as much as I don't like him, is the moderate wing of the group of people on the right of the Tories who wish to reduce migration. And those in parliament have no charisma.

    They have to be mad to be plotting leadership change given they are in a uniquely strong polling position for them.
  • Cookie said:

    ohnotnow said:

    Almost the most off-topic thing of all time, but while flicking about youtube tonight I came across this - for anyone who likes 'odd' or 'wtaf' :

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLJNSD3H5sg

    POSSIBLY IN MICHIGAN (1983)

    Possibly in Michigan is a musical horror story about two young women who are stalked through a shopping mall by the cannibal named Arthur. He follows them home, and here the victims become the aggressors.

    'Animal Cannibal' was written for Possibly in Michigan by Karen Skladany who also plays Janice..

    This is brilliant. All culture should be this good.

    I thought it might have something to do with Toto Coelo's early 80s hit "I eat cannibals". But it didn't. Pity, that song always puzzled me and it would be nice to find out it had some context,
    The following up single was 'Dracula's tango (sucker for your love)'. It's probably best not to spend too much time trying to find any context.

    Only other thing I remember about them was that one of the members was the daughter of Bob Holness.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 52,810
    Fishing said:

    TimS said:

    Talking of international colleagues, I was talking to Canadians today. They’re all in the “wtf?” zone.

    Too right!

    I mean how can Canada become the "51st State" when they comprise 10 Provinces and 3 Territories? They'd be the 51st through 63rd States!
    I imagine at least 8 of those states, and maybe all of them, would be safe for the Democrats, making a Republican Senate a pipedream (though Alberta and Manitoba might be competitive) and upsetting the balance in the idiotic electoral college.

    Not sure Trump has really thought this through.

    In fact, of course I'm sure he hasn't.
    It's providence. You don't worry about trivialities like short-term partisan advantage. Adding Canada would be historic and its current political alignment wouldn't mean much after joining the union.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 33,133
    "Supreme Court Seems Poised to Uphold Law That Could Ban TikTok

    The justices are expected to rule quickly in the case, which pits national security concerns about China against free speech protections."

    https://www.nytimes.com
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 52,810
    https://x.com/benryanwriter/status/1877805487606862155

    NYT reports: At “Meta’s offices in Silicon Valley, Texas and New York, facilities managers were instructed to remove tampons from men’s bathrooms, which the company had provided for nonbinary and transgender employees who use the men’s room and who may have required sanitary pads.”
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 22,707
    Fishing said:

    "We don't invest enough, our productivity is too low, and we don't grow enough"

    El-Erian, leading bond guru and former deputy IMF person and now chair of an Oxbridge college tells Newsnight.

    "Without higher growth and productivity then [UK] is exposed to any shocks, and we live in a shock world"


    Truss at least knew there was a major problem.

    She also had the nerve to do something radical and unpopular about it, unlike almost all other politicians for decades.

    Her heart and many of her instincts were absolutely in the right place.

    It was the execution that was a complete clusterfluck.
    The rather sad thing is that debt levels, pension committments and internet hysteria are now so high that governments can now only operate within a very narrow band. The minute somebody starts doing something radical, like Truss quickly or possibly Reeves slowly, they get stamped on by market forces, pension funds, and internet people.

    I don't know how to get around this... ☹️
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 29,203
    edited January 11
    ...

    Fishing said:

    TimS said:

    Talking of international colleagues, I was talking to Canadians today. They’re all in the “wtf?” zone.

    Too right!

    I mean how can Canada become the "51st State" when they comprise 10 Provinces and 3 Territories? They'd be the 51st through 63rd States!
    I imagine at least 8 of those states, and maybe all of them, would be safe for the Democrats, making a Republican Senate a pipedream (though Alberta and Manitoba might be competitive) and upsetting the balance in the idiotic electoral college.

    Not sure Trump has really thought this through.

    In fact, of course I'm sure he hasn't.
    It's providence. You don't worry about trivialities like short-term partisan advantage. Adding Canada would be historic and its current political alignment wouldn't mean much after joining the union.
    I still don't think Trump remotely wants to colonise Canada. But if he does, there is a sort of naivety to the concept. Colonising is (as I have said many times) really a sign of weakness. If you're really powerful, you get whatever you want without planting the flag, garrisoning the territory, and becoming responsible for the welfare of the natives. Canada has no real independence from the States, so why, as Sunil says, give them *more* rights within the American system than they currently have?
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 52,810

    ...

    Fishing said:

    TimS said:

    Talking of international colleagues, I was talking to Canadians today. They’re all in the “wtf?” zone.

    Too right!

    I mean how can Canada become the "51st State" when they comprise 10 Provinces and 3 Territories? They'd be the 51st through 63rd States!
    I imagine at least 8 of those states, and maybe all of them, would be safe for the Democrats, making a Republican Senate a pipedream (though Alberta and Manitoba might be competitive) and upsetting the balance in the idiotic electoral college.

    Not sure Trump has really thought this through.

    In fact, of course I'm sure he hasn't.
    It's providence. You don't worry about trivialities like short-term partisan advantage. Adding Canada would be historic and its current political alignment wouldn't mean much after joining the union.
    I still don't think Trump remotely wants to colonise Canada. But if he does, there is a sort of naivety to the concept. Colonising is (as I have said many times) really a sign of weakness. If you're really powerful, you get whatever you want without planting the flag, garrisoning the territory, and becoming responsible for the welfare of the natives. Canada has no real independence from the States, so why, as Sunil says, give them *more* rights within the American system than they currently have?
    Do you think it was a mistake for England to have a union with Scotland?
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 33,133

    https://x.com/benryanwriter/status/1877805487606862155

    NYT reports: At “Meta’s offices in Silicon Valley, Texas and New York, facilities managers were instructed to remove tampons from men’s bathrooms, which the company had provided for nonbinary and transgender employees who use the men’s room and who may have required sanitary pads.”

    Silly really. I have a live and let live attitude to this type of thing. Americans being puritanical as usual.
  • carnforthcarnforth Posts: 5,095

    https://x.com/benryanwriter/status/1877805487606862155

    NYT reports: At “Meta’s offices in Silicon Valley, Texas and New York, facilities managers were instructed to remove tampons from men’s bathrooms, which the company had provided for nonbinary and transgender employees who use the men’s room and who may have required sanitary pads.”

    Woke ain't coming back after the 2028 election, is it? I mean, this iteration anyway.
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 29,203

    ...

    Fishing said:

    TimS said:

    Talking of international colleagues, I was talking to Canadians today. They’re all in the “wtf?” zone.

    Too right!

    I mean how can Canada become the "51st State" when they comprise 10 Provinces and 3 Territories? They'd be the 51st through 63rd States!
    I imagine at least 8 of those states, and maybe all of them, would be safe for the Democrats, making a Republican Senate a pipedream (though Alberta and Manitoba might be competitive) and upsetting the balance in the idiotic electoral college.

    Not sure Trump has really thought this through.

    In fact, of course I'm sure he hasn't.
    It's providence. You don't worry about trivialities like short-term partisan advantage. Adding Canada would be historic and its current political alignment wouldn't mean much after joining the union.
    I still don't think Trump remotely wants to colonise Canada. But if he does, there is a sort of naivety to the concept. Colonising is (as I have said many times) really a sign of weakness. If you're really powerful, you get whatever you want without planting the flag, garrisoning the territory, and becoming responsible for the welfare of the natives. Canada has no real independence from the States, so why, as Sunil says, give them *more* rights within the American system than they currently have?
    Do you think it was a mistake for England to have a union with Scotland?
    With the Union of the crowns, things were evolving that way anyway, but what I said still holds true - had Scotland not been in conflict with England many times over our shared history, no union would be necessary. In modern history (I can't speak for why the Romans did what they did as I'm not an ancient historian) you only garrison somewhere when your interests there are threatened. If you can get the goodies without getting married, you do.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 29,368
    ....

    This Zuckerberg/Rogan interview is a big moment:

    https://x.com/libsoftiktok/status/1877785122314875330

    Mark Zuckerberg says the Biden admin called his employees and “screamed and cursed” at them to take down Covid/vaccine content. They wanted Meta to censor memes too.

    When he pushed back, the Biden regime started investigating his companies.

    “It was brutal.”

    What are you trying to demonstrate by posting this old bollocks from Zuckerberg? Is it a) Zuckerberg is a whiny twat or b) the Biden Administration was reluctant for people to promote anti-vaccine propaganda in the middle of a pandemic?
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 33,133
    ohnotnow said:

    Almost the most off-topic thing of all time, but while flicking about youtube tonight I came across this - for anyone who likes 'odd' or 'wtaf' :

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLJNSD3H5sg

    POSSIBLY IN MICHIGAN (1983)

    Possibly in Michigan is a musical horror story about two young women who are stalked through a shopping mall by the cannibal named Arthur. He follows them home, and here the victims become the aggressors.

    'Animal Cannibal' was written for Possibly in Michigan by Karen Skladany who also plays Janice..

    This is exactly the sort of thing I love to discover, thanks for flagging it up.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 52,810

    ....

    This Zuckerberg/Rogan interview is a big moment:

    https://x.com/libsoftiktok/status/1877785122314875330

    Mark Zuckerberg says the Biden admin called his employees and “screamed and cursed” at them to take down Covid/vaccine content. They wanted Meta to censor memes too.

    When he pushed back, the Biden regime started investigating his companies.

    “It was brutal.”

    What are you trying to demonstrate by posting this old bollocks from Zuckerberg? Is it a) Zuckerberg is a whiny twat or b) the Biden Administration was reluctant for people to promote anti-vaccine propaganda in the middle of a pandemic?
    To show the extent of the vibe shift in America.
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 22,707

    ...

    Fishing said:

    TimS said:

    Talking of international colleagues, I was talking to Canadians today. They’re all in the “wtf?” zone.

    Too right!

    I mean how can Canada become the "51st State" when they comprise 10 Provinces and 3 Territories? They'd be the 51st through 63rd States!
    I imagine at least 8 of those states, and maybe all of them, would be safe for the Democrats, making a Republican Senate a pipedream (though Alberta and Manitoba might be competitive) and upsetting the balance in the idiotic electoral college.

    Not sure Trump has really thought this through.

    In fact, of course I'm sure he hasn't.
    It's providence. You don't worry about trivialities like short-term partisan advantage. Adding Canada would be historic and its current political alignment wouldn't mean much after joining the union.
    I still don't think Trump remotely wants to colonise Canada. But if he does, there is a sort of naivety to the concept. Colonising is (as I have said many times) really a sign of weakness. If you're really powerful, you get whatever you want without planting the flag, garrisoning the territory, and becoming responsible for the welfare of the natives. Canada has no real independence from the States, so why, as Sunil says, give them *more* rights within the American system than they currently have?
    Do you think it was a mistake for England to have a union with Scotland?
    There's a difference between an Anglo-Caledonian union based on consent and a US-Canada union based on threat.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 52,810
    viewcode said:

    ...

    Fishing said:

    TimS said:

    Talking of international colleagues, I was talking to Canadians today. They’re all in the “wtf?” zone.

    Too right!

    I mean how can Canada become the "51st State" when they comprise 10 Provinces and 3 Territories? They'd be the 51st through 63rd States!
    I imagine at least 8 of those states, and maybe all of them, would be safe for the Democrats, making a Republican Senate a pipedream (though Alberta and Manitoba might be competitive) and upsetting the balance in the idiotic electoral college.

    Not sure Trump has really thought this through.

    In fact, of course I'm sure he hasn't.
    It's providence. You don't worry about trivialities like short-term partisan advantage. Adding Canada would be historic and its current political alignment wouldn't mean much after joining the union.
    I still don't think Trump remotely wants to colonise Canada. But if he does, there is a sort of naivety to the concept. Colonising is (as I have said many times) really a sign of weakness. If you're really powerful, you get whatever you want without planting the flag, garrisoning the territory, and becoming responsible for the welfare of the natives. Canada has no real independence from the States, so why, as Sunil says, give them *more* rights within the American system than they currently have?
    Do you think it was a mistake for England to have a union with Scotland?
    There's a difference between an Anglo-Caledonian union based on consent and a US-Canada union based on threat.
    We're bought and sold for English gold
    Such a parcel of rogues in a nation
  • MattWMattW Posts: 24,312
    Foxy said:

    Apparently, if you were born between 1930 and 1946 you are in just 1% of your generation still alive today

    My wife and I feel very blessed to be in the 1%

    I don't think that adds up. There are 3 million Britons aged over 80.
    There were ~10 million births between 1930 and 1946.

    1944 = age 80.

    So it looks dodgy, yes.
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 22,707

    viewcode said:

    ...

    Fishing said:

    TimS said:

    Talking of international colleagues, I was talking to Canadians today. They’re all in the “wtf?” zone.

    Too right!

    I mean how can Canada become the "51st State" when they comprise 10 Provinces and 3 Territories? They'd be the 51st through 63rd States!
    I imagine at least 8 of those states, and maybe all of them, would be safe for the Democrats, making a Republican Senate a pipedream (though Alberta and Manitoba might be competitive) and upsetting the balance in the idiotic electoral college.

    Not sure Trump has really thought this through.

    In fact, of course I'm sure he hasn't.
    It's providence. You don't worry about trivialities like short-term partisan advantage. Adding Canada would be historic and its current political alignment wouldn't mean much after joining the union.
    I still don't think Trump remotely wants to colonise Canada. But if he does, there is a sort of naivety to the concept. Colonising is (as I have said many times) really a sign of weakness. If you're really powerful, you get whatever you want without planting the flag, garrisoning the territory, and becoming responsible for the welfare of the natives. Canada has no real independence from the States, so why, as Sunil says, give them *more* rights within the American system than they currently have?
    Do you think it was a mistake for England to have a union with Scotland?
    There's a difference between an Anglo-Caledonian union based on consent and a US-Canada union based on threat.
    We're bought and sold for English gold
    Such a parcel of rogues in a nation
    And if US offers Canada cash for the union, fine. But Trump isn't suggesting that. He's suggesting forcing a union thru the threat of economic or military coercion. Surely you must see that consent is an issue here?
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 33,133
    Suspected arsonist arrested.

    "The death toll from the Los Angeles wildfires rose to ten as a suspected arsonist was arrested after a new fast-moving blaze erupted threatening more celebrity homes."

    https://www.standard.co.uk/news/world/los-angeles-wildfires-california-death-toll-kenneth-fire-la-arson-arrest-b1203990.html
  • MattWMattW Posts: 24,312
    edited January 11
    Only in Montana:

    Require bicycles to go opposite the flow of traffic *

    This bill revises existing bicycle laws in Montana by establishing new regulations regarding how bicycles must be ridden on roadways. Specifically, it mandates that individuals operating a bicycle without a flag vehicle escort must ride opposite the flow of traffic, while those with a flag vehicle escort are required to ride with the flow of traffic. This change aims to enhance safety for both cyclists and motorists.

    Additionally, the bill repeals two sections of the Montana Code Annotated: 61-8-602, which pertains to traffic laws applicable to persons operating bicycles or mopeds, and 61-8-605, which addresses riding on roadways. The new provisions will be codified as part of Title 61, chapter 8, part 6 of the Montana Code.


    (The latter two are the existing rules around positioning etc, which are simply being abolished.)

    https://www.cyclingwest.com/news/montana-proposes-bill-to-force-cyclists-to-ride-the-wrong-way-in-traffic/

    * This works really well when on one way streets with 20mph limits as an option.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 49,524
    ohnotnow said:

    Almost the most off-topic thing of all time, but while flicking about youtube tonight I came across this - for anyone who likes 'odd' or 'wtaf' :

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLJNSD3H5sg

    POSSIBLY IN MICHIGAN (1983)

    Possibly in Michigan is a musical horror story about two young women who are stalked through a shopping mall by the cannibal named Arthur. He follows them home, and here the victims become the aggressors.

    'Animal Cannibal' was written for Possibly in Michigan by Karen Skladany who also plays Janice..

    It rates 4.0 on Letterboxd with 17 thousand reviews, so seems to have gone viral as a culture movie.

    Possibly in Michigan on Letterboxd https://boxd.it/aXA2
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 33,133
    edited January 11
    Foxy said:

    ohnotnow said:

    Almost the most off-topic thing of all time, but while flicking about youtube tonight I came across this - for anyone who likes 'odd' or 'wtaf' :

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLJNSD3H5sg

    POSSIBLY IN MICHIGAN (1983)

    Possibly in Michigan is a musical horror story about two young women who are stalked through a shopping mall by the cannibal named Arthur. He follows them home, and here the victims become the aggressors.

    'Animal Cannibal' was written for Possibly in Michigan by Karen Skladany who also plays Janice..

    It rates 4.0 on Letterboxd with 17 thousand reviews, so seems to have gone viral as a culture movie.

    Possibly in Michigan on Letterboxd https://boxd.it/aXA2
    "Possibly In Michigan" reminds me of the sort of thing that Channel 4 used to broadcast late at night when it first launched. A lot of it was very weird, just like this, and a surprising number of primary school children (such as myself) were somehow managing to watch it and talk about it the next day at school, lol. [A good example is the Michael Jackson Thriller video, which officially had an 18 certificate on it but which was watched by most people 10 or even 12 years younger in my experience].
  • MattWMattW Posts: 24,312

    Huzzah, disestablishment is coming.

    Archbishop of Canterbury no longer world Anglican leader in shake-up plan

    There are proposals for a ‘rotating’ leadership of the global Anglican Communion, with the archbishop sharing duties with foreign church leaders


    The Archbishop of Canterbury will no longer be the de facto head and sole “face” of the world’s 85 million Anglicans under official proposals for a “post-colonial” shake-up.

    For the first time since the formation of the Anglican Communion in 1867, as a fellowship of Anglican churches across 165 countries worldwide, its most senior figure would not automatically be the Archbishop of Canterbury, under plans deemed likely to pass, published in a report commissioned by global church leaders.

    Instead, the role would be a rotating one, with Anglican archbishops and “primates” from around the globe elected to convene and preside over the communion’s most important body, the Anglican Consultative Council (ACC).

    There are 42 Anglican provinces globally and tens of millions of Anglicans in Africa, with the largest number in Nigeria.

    Ending the presumption that the Archbishop of Canterbury is always the sole face of the world’s Anglicans would “fit with the identity and ideals of the Anglican Communion in a post-colonial era”, a report notes, adding: “The leadership of the Communion should look like the Communion.”


    https://www.thetimes.com/uk/religion/article/archbishop-of-canterbury-no-longer-world-anglican-leader-in-shake-up-plan-3ld60cqbr

    That was one of the things I flagged up as politically necessary for there to be a female Archbishop of Canterbury - communion wide politics need to be reduced in selecting the ABC.

    It will be a tricky one to set up, but may be quite likely.


  • MattWMattW Posts: 24,312
    edited January 11
    Taz said:

    Is Reform about to shit the proverbial bed ?

    Or is this the Graun mischief making.

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2025/jan/10/reform-uk-councillors-to-resign-over-nigel-farage-leadership

    The G is being a little mischievous, in that only 2 of the 12 are at County Council level (Greater Heanor, Alfreton and Summercotes), and the others are Little Councillors. So a dent (2 from 50), but not a big dent.

    But 9 of those are on Heanor and Loscoe town Council afaics, which is the same area. And that area has history quite some way to the Right (BNP, UKIP etc). I'm not sure how far that informs these events.

    Plus they are arguing for Ben Habib, a former Reform Deputy Leader, and about "autocracy". They say Habib drew them to Reform. Habib has backed Musk and called for Yaxley-Lennon to be released. Autocracy is an easy call, when the whole party is literally owned by one man.

    Farage is talking about a "rogue branch" (it's quite quick to develop one of those !), and is trying to portray himself as respectable.

    I'm not sure where they have to go. One County Councillor is an ex-Tory, but if they have gone for the Habib stream of Reform, I don't see an easy way back. So probably Independents, as I don't see them going for a groupuscule party such as current UKIP.

    There is a note in the Spectator diary:
    https://archive.is/20250110202421/https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/reform-faces-councillor-exodus-as-12-set-to-quit-over-farage/

    Open to correction on any errors, or extra information, as it's modestly intricate.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 49,524
    Andy_JS said:

    Foxy said:

    ohnotnow said:

    Almost the most off-topic thing of all time, but while flicking about youtube tonight I came across this - for anyone who likes 'odd' or 'wtaf' :

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLJNSD3H5sg

    POSSIBLY IN MICHIGAN (1983)

    Possibly in Michigan is a musical horror story about two young women who are stalked through a shopping mall by the cannibal named Arthur. He follows them home, and here the victims become the aggressors.

    'Animal Cannibal' was written for Possibly in Michigan by Karen Skladany who also plays Janice..

    It rates 4.0 on Letterboxd with 17 thousand reviews, so seems to have gone viral as a culture movie.

    Possibly in Michigan on Letterboxd https://boxd.it/aXA2
    "Possibly In Michigan" reminds me of the sort of thing that Channel 4 used to broadcast late at night when it first launched. A lot of it was very weird, just like this, and a surprising number of primary school children (such as myself) were somehow managing to watch it and talk about it the next day at school, lol. [A good example is the Michael Jackson Thriller video, which officially had an 18 certificate on it but which was watched by most people 10 or even 12 years younger in my experience].
    Apparently it did get shown on Channel 4 in the late Eighties.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 55,489
    LOL at Cuckerberg trying to lick Trump’s arse on Rogan.

    He blows with the wind, and is so obviously losing market share to X because of the censorship, but people aren’t going to forget that he was the one who rolled over to the administration. Twitter was reborn only because of a change of management, Zuck thinks he can rebirth F***book while he stays in charge.

    https://x.com/stoolpresidente/status/1877822290471129210
    https://x.com/drbentapper1/status/1877843079031308720
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,852
    Sandpit said:

    LOL at Cuckerberg trying to lick Trump’s arse on Rogan.

    He blows with the wind, and is so obviously losing market share to X because of the censorship, but people aren’t going to forget that he was the one who rolled over to the administration. Twitter was reborn only because of a change of management, Zuck thinks he can rebirth F***book while he stays in charge.

    https://x.com/stoolpresidente/status/1877822290471129210
    https://x.com/drbentapper1/status/1877843079031308720

    I agree with the first part: Zuckerberg is clearly trying to lick Trump's ass.

    But is there any evidence X is gaining market share?
  • RattersRatters Posts: 1,119
    Sandpit said:

    LOL at Cuckerberg trying to lick Trump’s arse on Rogan.

    He blows with the wind, and is so obviously losing market share to X because of the censorship, but people aren’t going to forget that he was the one who rolled over to the administration. Twitter was reborn only because of a change of management, Zuck thinks he can rebirth F***book while he stays in charge.

    https://x.com/stoolpresidente/status/1877822290471129210
    https://x.com/drbentapper1/status/1877843079031308720

    The number of X users has been falling over recent years while the number of Instagram users has been growing.

    I don't doubt Zuckerberg is trying to suck up to Trump, but Twitter isn't a serious threat.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 55,489
    rcs1000 said:

    Sandpit said:

    LOL at Cuckerberg trying to lick Trump’s arse on Rogan.

    He blows with the wind, and is so obviously losing market share to X because of the censorship, but people aren’t going to forget that he was the one who rolled over to the administration. Twitter was reborn only because of a change of management, Zuck thinks he can rebirth F***book while he stays in charge.

    https://x.com/stoolpresidente/status/1877822290471129210
    https://x.com/drbentapper1/status/1877843079031308720

    I agree with the first part: Zuckerberg is clearly trying to lick Trump's ass.

    But is there any evidence X is gaining market share?
    Certainly in terms of what people are talking about. Breaking news is now all on X.

    When was the last time anyone mentioned Meta properties to each other or on the news, apart from everyone roundly mocking Mrs Sussex the other week?

    No-one is talking positively on or about any of Zuck’s businesses, although I’m sure he’s happy that his Chinese rival is about to get nixed in the US. I assume part of his arselicking of Trump is to make sure that ban survives the change in administration.

    Trump’s supporters are having absolutely none of it though. Laura was a Congressional candidate in Florida who was banned from F***book by Zuckerberg.
    https://x.com/lauraloomer/status/1877920494432731319
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 50,280
    A group of 10 councillors representing Reform UK have given notice of their intention to resign en masse in protest at Nigel Farage’s leadership.

    The resignations will add to pressure on the Reform leader after Elon Musk said he was “not up to the job”. They are timed to overshadow the party’s south-east conference this weekend.

    The councillors alleged the party was being run in an “autocratic manner” and accused Farage of “disloyalty” to long-term members. There are splits within the party over the jailed far-right activist Tommy Robinson, who is supported by Musk.
  • BattlebusBattlebus Posts: 101

    viewcode said:

    ...

    Fishing said:

    TimS said:

    Talking of international colleagues, I was talking to Canadians today. They’re all in the “wtf?” zone.

    Too right!

    I mean how can Canada become the "51st State" when they comprise 10 Provinces and 3 Territories? They'd be the 51st through 63rd States!
    I imagine at least 8 of those states, and maybe all of them, would be safe for the Democrats, making a Republican Senate a pipedream (though Alberta and Manitoba might be competitive) and upsetting the balance in the idiotic electoral college.

    Not sure Trump has really thought this through.

    In fact, of course I'm sure he hasn't.
    It's providence. You don't worry about trivialities like short-term partisan advantage. Adding Canada would be historic and its current political alignment wouldn't mean much after joining the union.
    I still don't think Trump remotely wants to colonise Canada. But if he does, there is a sort of naivety to the concept. Colonising is (as I have said many times) really a sign of weakness. If you're really powerful, you get whatever you want without planting the flag, garrisoning the territory, and becoming responsible for the welfare of the natives. Canada has no real independence from the States, so why, as Sunil says, give them *more* rights within the American system than they currently have?
    Do you think it was a mistake for England to have a union with Scotland?
    There's a difference between an Anglo-Caledonian union based on consent and a US-Canada union based on threat.
    We're bought and sold for English gold
    Such a parcel of rogues in a nation
    Refers to the collapse of a nations finances due to overarching investment (sic) in overseas expansion. Left the country in such debt, there was little choice but to 'unionise'. Religious politics played a part too. Somethings never change.

    Odd fact. Even after 400 years of progress you still can't get through the Darien Gap. There is a 66 mile break in the Pan American highway at this point. We can get to the moon or even Mars, but Darien is beyond us. Such is the foolhardiness of the bankers.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,852
    Sandpit said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Sandpit said:

    LOL at Cuckerberg trying to lick Trump’s arse on Rogan.

    He blows with the wind, and is so obviously losing market share to X because of the censorship, but people aren’t going to forget that he was the one who rolled over to the administration. Twitter was reborn only because of a change of management, Zuck thinks he can rebirth F***book while he stays in charge.

    https://x.com/stoolpresidente/status/1877822290471129210
    https://x.com/drbentapper1/status/1877843079031308720

    I agree with the first part: Zuckerberg is clearly trying to lick Trump's ass.

    But is there any evidence X is gaining market share?
    Certainly in terms of what people are talking about. Breaking news is now all on X.

    When was the last time anyone mentioned Meta properties to each other or on the news, apart from everyone roundly mocking Mrs Sussex the other week?

    No-one is talking positively on or about any of Zuck’s businesses, although I’m sure he’s happy that his Chinese rival is about to get nixed in the US. I assume part of his arselicking of Trump is to make sure that ban survives the change in administration.

    Trump’s supporters are having absolutely none of it though. Laura was a Congressional candidate in Florida who was banned from F***book by Zuckerberg.
    https://x.com/lauraloomer/status/1877920494432731319
    I'm not sure the facts fit that: Instagram advertising revenues are up about 35% you, while Twitter/X is down. Now, some of that is because Twitter has rubbish attribution, but I think it's hard to argue Twitter is thriving.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 55,489
    IanB2 said:

    A group of 10 councillors representing Reform UK have given notice of their intention to resign en masse in protest at Nigel Farage’s leadership.

    The resignations will add to pressure on the Reform leader after Elon Musk said he was “not up to the job”. They are timed to overshadow the party’s south-east conference this weekend.

    The councillors alleged the party was being run in an “autocratic manner” and accused Farage of “disloyalty” to long-term members. There are splits within the party over the jailed far-right activist Tommy Robinson, who is supported by Musk.

    Isn’t the ‘party’ actually run by a company of which Mr Farage is the shareholder?

    Good luck to anyone leaving by attacking him from the right over issues like “Tommy”. Nigel Farage has two decades of experience of this, and knows exactly where to draw the line and still appeal to enough people to be elected. There’s almost no space to his right that doesn’t come across as horrifically racist to 99% of the population.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 54,208
    Morning all. We are in full cat crisis mode with my daughter's cat apparently having a tumour on its heart. A night in cat hospital (estimated cost £700!!) and an early pick up means no long lie for dad. Hey ho.

    The cost of vets bills is mind bending. An ultrascan cost £200 last night. They obviously have the capital cost of the equipment but that must produce an astonishing profit margin.

    Was it always like this or has inflation really taken off in pet land?

  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 42,330
    Battlebus said:

    viewcode said:

    ...

    Fishing said:

    TimS said:

    Talking of international colleagues, I was talking to Canadians today. They’re all in the “wtf?” zone.

    Too right!

    I mean how can Canada become the "51st State" when they comprise 10 Provinces and 3 Territories? They'd be the 51st through 63rd States!
    I imagine at least 8 of those states, and maybe all of them, would be safe for the Democrats, making a Republican Senate a pipedream (though Alberta and Manitoba might be competitive) and upsetting the balance in the idiotic electoral college.

    Not sure Trump has really thought this through.

    In fact, of course I'm sure he hasn't.
    It's providence. You don't worry about trivialities like short-term partisan advantage. Adding Canada would be historic and its current political alignment wouldn't mean much after joining the union.
    I still don't think Trump remotely wants to colonise Canada. But if he does, there is a sort of naivety to the concept. Colonising is (as I have said many times) really a sign of weakness. If you're really powerful, you get whatever you want without planting the flag, garrisoning the territory, and becoming responsible for the welfare of the natives. Canada has no real independence from the States, so why, as Sunil says, give them *more* rights within the American system than they currently have?
    Do you think it was a mistake for England to have a union with Scotland?
    There's a difference between an Anglo-Caledonian union based on consent and a US-Canada union based on threat.
    We're bought and sold for English gold
    Such a parcel of rogues in a nation
    Refers to the collapse of a nations finances due to overarching investment (sic) in overseas expansion. Left the country in such debt, there was little choice but to 'unionise'. Religious politics played a part too. Somethings never change.

    Odd fact. Even after 400 years of progress you still can't get through the Darien Gap. There is a 66 mile break in the Pan American highway at this point. We can get to the moon or even Mars, but Darien is beyond us. Such is the foolhardiness of the bankers.
    Perhaps Trump needs a new Navigation Act, only US built trains, ships, planes and 18 wheelers to move elk hides or whatever from Canada to US.

    On checking I was mildly surprised to see Canada exported $45b plus vehicles to the US in 2023, seems a handy chunk.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 72,114
    DavidL said:

    Morning all. We are in full cat crisis mode with my daughter's cat apparently having a tumour on its heart. A night in cat hospital (estimated cost £700!!) and an early pick up means no long lie for dad. Hey ho.

    The cost of vets bills is mind bending. An ultrascan cost £200 last night. They obviously have the capital cost of the equipment but that must produce an astonishing profit margin.

    Was it always like this or has inflation really taken off in pet land?

    My father was a vet. It was not always like this. It’s got progressively worse as major chains have taken over, squeezing out small firms and then ramping up prices because they are only interested in profit margins. Used to annoy him no end.
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 42,330
    DavidL said:

    Morning all. We are in full cat crisis mode with my daughter's cat apparently having a tumour on its heart. A night in cat hospital (estimated cost £700!!) and an early pick up means no long lie for dad. Hey ho.

    The cost of vets bills is mind bending. An ultrascan cost £200 last night. They obviously have the capital cost of the equipment but that must produce an astonishing profit margin.

    Was it always like this or has inflation really taken off in pet land?

    A cat CAT scan?

    I think it’s a combination, more sophisticated treatments available, more cats owned and your actual inflation (with a bit of gouging no doubt). We pay more in pet insurance every month than we do on council tax,
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 55,489
    A few more Russian oil facilities up in flames overnight. What a shame.

    https://x.com/jayinkyiv/status/1877862688082034949

    Rumours of Ukranian drone ships taking out the defensive barrage around the Kerch Bridge as well. The bridge was closed to traffic overnight.

    https://x.com/azovsouth/status/1877840720318366081
  • SandraMcSandraMc Posts: 709
    DavidL said:

    Morning all. We are in full cat crisis mode with my daughter's cat apparently having a tumour on its heart. A night in cat hospital (estimated cost £700!!) and an early pick up means no long lie for dad. Hey ho.

    The cost of vets bills is mind bending. An ultrascan cost £200 last night. They obviously have the capital cost of the equipment but that must produce an astonishing profit margin.

    Was it always like this or has inflation really taken off in pet land?

    Back in the 2010s my mother paid £800 for an emergency operation on her dog. (Admittedly it was on Christmas Day). It died 6 months later. She took the other dog to the National Veterinary College in Hertfordshire when it became ill and the local vets didn't know what was wrong with it. The College kept the dog in for a week, charged her £2,500 and told her it had cancer and only 2 weeks to live.

    That is why we don't keep a pet.
  • MattWMattW Posts: 24,312
    DavidL said:

    Morning all. We are in full cat crisis mode with my daughter's cat apparently having a tumour on its heart. A night in cat hospital (estimated cost £700!!) and an early pick up means no long lie for dad. Hey ho.

    The cost of vets bills is mind bending. An ultrascan cost £200 last night. They obviously have the capital cost of the equipment but that must produce an astonishing profit margin.

    Was it always like this or has inflation really taken off in pet land?

    Sympathy for your daughter, but you are probably fortunate she does not have a horse.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 49,524
    DavidL said:

    Morning all. We are in full cat crisis mode with my daughter's cat apparently having a tumour on its heart. A night in cat hospital (estimated cost £700!!) and an early pick up means no long lie for dad. Hey ho.

    The cost of vets bills is mind bending. An ultrascan cost £200 last night. They obviously have the capital cost of the equipment but that must produce an astonishing profit margin.

    Was it always like this or has inflation really taken off in pet land?

    I have always found our vet bills reasonable, but it is a small local independent.

    The problem is that private equity firms are buying up smaller vets, exploiting the workers and ramping up profits.

    https://tribunemag.co.uk/2024/11/private-equity-is-coming-for-your-pets-vets

    Dentists and private contractors doing NHS work too.

  • MattWMattW Posts: 24,312
    edited January 11
    Audio of Trump's sentencing hearing in NY.

    Just on half an hour. The interesting bits are the prosecutor, Trump himself reading what he has said every time, and especially Judge Merchan.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxIdJuf3Niw
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 55,489
    DavidL said:

    Morning all. We are in full cat crisis mode with my daughter's cat apparently having a tumour on its heart. A night in cat hospital (estimated cost £700!!) and an early pick up means no long lie for dad. Hey ho.

    The cost of vets bills is mind bending. An ultrascan cost £200 last night. They obviously have the capital cost of the equipment but that must produce an astonishing profit margin.

    Was it always like this or has inflation really taken off in pet land?

    FWIW I paid £250 last month for half an hour of a doctor’s time and an x-ray. For a human.

    (Private hospital in the sandpit, that works like American healthcare should work without the f***ery that goes on over there).


  • Daveyboy1961Daveyboy1961 Posts: 3,999
    SandraMc said:

    DavidL said:

    Morning all. We are in full cat crisis mode with my daughter's cat apparently having a tumour on its heart. A night in cat hospital (estimated cost £700!!) and an early pick up means no long lie for dad. Hey ho.

    The cost of vets bills is mind bending. An ultrascan cost £200 last night. They obviously have the capital cost of the equipment but that must produce an astonishing profit margin.

    Was it always like this or has inflation really taken off in pet land?

    Back in the 2010s my mother paid £800 for an emergency operation on her dog. (Admittedly it was on Christmas Day). It died 6 months later. She took the other dog to the National Veterinary College in Hertfordshire when it became ill and the local vets didn't know what was wrong with it. The College kept the dog in for a week, charged her £2,500 and told her it had cancer and only 2 weeks to live.

    That is why we don't keep a pet.
    We have just lost one of our dogs. She was a greyhound and broke her femur while out exercising. We only found out it was cancer after an x ray at the vets. We had to euthanase. The vet bill was 800 with disposal etc. this is what human medicine would cost if no NHS.
  • BattlebusBattlebus Posts: 101
    edited January 11
    DavidL said:

    Morning all. We are in full cat crisis mode with my daughter's cat apparently having a tumour on its heart. A night in cat hospital (estimated cost £700!!) and an early pick up means no long lie for dad. Hey ho.

    The cost of vets bills is mind bending. An ultrascan cost £200 last night. They obviously have the capital cost of the equipment but that must produce an astonishing profit margin.

    Was it always like this or has inflation really taken off in pet land?

    Private Equity has this effect. Captive local market and no real competition which makes it an ideal PE market. Children are cheaper.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 54,208
    Thanks all for your replies. Cinnamon deteriorated overnight and had to be put down so I have been stood down. This has been a hell of a January for us. The hits just keep coming.
  • AlanbrookeAlanbrooke Posts: 25,688
    So Youre a Labour MP

    Youve had to support

    removing WFA
    attacking the farmers
    taxing the ass off everyone
    a disastrous budget
    a coming economic slump
    the thing
    a minister who nicked a phone
    another who is being examined for corruption
    gifts and freebies for the top bods

    and now it looks like you'll be attacking the disabled

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2025/01/10/billions-disability-welfare-cuts-calm-markets/

    and 100 of you have no chance of getting a government position

    and that's just the first 6 months

    when do you say enough ?

  • AlanbrookeAlanbrooke Posts: 25,688
    DavidL said:

    Thanks all for your replies. Cinnamon deteriorated overnight and had to be put down so I have been stood down. This has been a hell of a January for us. The hits just keep coming.

    Have you thought of joining the Labour party ?
  • SandraMcSandraMc Posts: 709
    DavidL said:

    Thanks all for your replies. Cinnamon deteriorated overnight and had to be put down so I have been stood down. This has been a hell of a January for us. The hits just keep coming.

    I'm sorry.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 54,208

    DavidL said:

    Morning all. We are in full cat crisis mode with my daughter's cat apparently having a tumour on its heart. A night in cat hospital (estimated cost £700!!) and an early pick up means no long lie for dad. Hey ho.

    The cost of vets bills is mind bending. An ultrascan cost £200 last night. They obviously have the capital cost of the equipment but that must produce an astonishing profit margin.

    Was it always like this or has inflation really taken off in pet land?

    A cat CAT scan?

    I think it’s a combination, more sophisticated treatments available, more cats owned and your actual inflation (with a bit of gouging no doubt). We pay more in pet insurance every month than we do on council tax,
    At these prices I am not surprised. I would guess, as @Foxy and others have indicated that the insurance model has reduced sensitivity to prices and allowed profiteering, just as we see in American health care. It seems a good example of the drawbacks of that sort of model.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 49,524
    Sandpit said:

    DavidL said:

    Morning all. We are in full cat crisis mode with my daughter's cat apparently having a tumour on its heart. A night in cat hospital (estimated cost £700!!) and an early pick up means no long lie for dad. Hey ho.

    The cost of vets bills is mind bending. An ultrascan cost £200 last night. They obviously have the capital cost of the equipment but that must produce an astonishing profit margin.

    Was it always like this or has inflation really taken off in pet land?

    FWIW I paid £250 last month for half an hour of a doctor’s time and an x-ray. For a human.

    (Private hospital in the sandpit, that works like American healthcare should work without the f***ery that goes on over there).


    Yes, delivering healthcare is expensive. British people are so used to getting it free that they are unaware of the costs.

    Private equity is rolling up small practices in the USA too:

    https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2024/04/vet-private-equity-industry/678180/?gift=Q2xxhS27Csx4yHsp7QhJgYpIei5Plf5gAnY7VHT1LGg&utm_source=copy-link&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=share

    "To get a sense of what might happen when the profit-seeking dial gets turned up too high in veterinary medicine, we need look no further than human health care. An extensive body of research shows that when private equity takes over a hospital or physician practice, prices and the number of expensive procedures tend to go up. A study found serious medical errors occur more frequently after private equity buys the hospital. Another study found that costs to patients rise, too, sometimes substantially. And that’s in a tougher regulatory environment."

    Like all "fee for service" medical care there's a lot of upselling of investigations too. One thing that the CMA insists on in UK medical private practice is transparency of fees, and declarations of interest when investigations are done.
  • DavidL said:

    Morning all. We are in full cat crisis mode with my daughter's cat apparently having a tumour on its heart. A night in cat hospital (estimated cost £700!!) and an early pick up means no long lie for dad. Hey ho.

    The cost of vets bills is mind bending. An ultrascan cost £200 last night. They obviously have the capital cost of the equipment but that must produce an astonishing profit margin.

    Was it always like this or has inflation really taken off in pet land?

    The distinction between large animal and small animal veterinary practice has never been greater. The small practices have indeed been bought out, although a few have set up independently. It is a lot easier for multi vet practices to compete for the government work such as TB tests - they carry an administrative overload that only large practices can cover.

    Last Ceasarian I had on a cow before I retired was about £500 can't remember if the calf was live or dead, the cow lived. In my dad's day the vets only charged for a ceasar if both cow and calf survived.

    Of course Rachel Reeves doesn't think farmers have vet bills, mine used to be about £2k per annum
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 49,524
    DavidL said:

    Thanks all for your replies. Cinnamon deteriorated overnight and had to be put down so I have been stood down. This has been a hell of a January for us. The hits just keep coming.

    Sorry to hear. The death of a pet leaves a big space.
  • DavidL said:

    Morning all. We are in full cat crisis mode with my daughter's cat apparently having a tumour on its heart. A night in cat hospital (estimated cost £700!!) and an early pick up means no long lie for dad. Hey ho.

    The cost of vets bills is mind bending. An ultrascan cost £200 last night. They obviously have the capital cost of the equipment but that must produce an astonishing profit margin.

    Was it always like this or has inflation really taken off in pet land?

    The distinction between large animal and small animal veterinary practice has never been greater. The small practices have indeed been bought out, although a few have set up independently. It is a lot easier for multi vet practices to compete for the government work such as TB tests - they carry an administrative overload that only large practices can cover.

    Last Ceasarian I had on a cow before I retired was about £500 can't remember if the calf was live or dead, the cow lived. In my dad's day the vets only charged for a ceasar if both cow and calf survived.

    Of course Rachel Reeves doesn't think farmers have vet bills, mine used to be about £2k per annum
    Fun fact, Alistair Campbell's dad was a vet near Skipton. According to one of his farmer clients who I met when I was much younger and he was very elderly, he was a good vet, tragedy about his son though !
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 54,208

    DavidL said:

    Morning all. We are in full cat crisis mode with my daughter's cat apparently having a tumour on its heart. A night in cat hospital (estimated cost £700!!) and an early pick up means no long lie for dad. Hey ho.

    The cost of vets bills is mind bending. An ultrascan cost £200 last night. They obviously have the capital cost of the equipment but that must produce an astonishing profit margin.

    Was it always like this or has inflation really taken off in pet land?

    The distinction between large animal and small animal veterinary practice has never been greater. The small practices have indeed been bought out, although a few have set up independently. It is a lot easier for multi vet practices to compete for the government work such as TB tests - they carry an administrative overload that only large practices can cover.

    Last Ceasarian I had on a cow before I retired was about £500 can't remember if the calf was live or dead, the cow lived. In my dad's day the vets only charged for a ceasar if both cow and calf survived.

    Of course Rachel Reeves doesn't think farmers have vet bills, mine used to be about £2k per annum
    There was a protest by farmers with a large number of tractors and trailers going around the bypass in Dundee yesterday still complaining about the tax changes and its impact on family firms. Another set of enemies that this government has made for remarkably little gain.
  • Daveyboy1961Daveyboy1961 Posts: 3,999
    DavidL said:

    Thanks all for your replies. Cinnamon deteriorated overnight and had to be put down so I have been stood down. This has been a hell of a January for us. The hits just keep coming.

    Very sad to hear. Losing our last dog last week hit me more than losing a brother and sister to be honest.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 49,524
    edited January 11

    DavidL said:

    Morning all. We are in full cat crisis mode with my daughter's cat apparently having a tumour on its heart. A night in cat hospital (estimated cost £700!!) and an early pick up means no long lie for dad. Hey ho.

    The cost of vets bills is mind bending. An ultrascan cost £200 last night. They obviously have the capital cost of the equipment but that must produce an astonishing profit margin.

    Was it always like this or has inflation really taken off in pet land?

    The distinction between large animal and small animal veterinary practice has never been greater. The small practices have indeed been bought out, although a few have set up independently. It is a lot easier for multi vet practices to compete for the government work such as TB tests - they carry an administrative overload that only large practices can cover.

    Last Ceasarian I had on a cow before I retired was about £500 can't remember if the calf was live or dead, the cow lived. In my dad's day the vets only charged for a ceasar if both cow and calf survived.

    Of course Rachel Reeves doesn't think farmers have vet bills, mine used to be about £2k per annum
    Surely vet bills are an allowable business expense for a farmer, so Reeves is fully aware?

    The economic problem of farming is the low return on capital employed, in part due to the limited number of purchasers, the strong competition from lower cost producers overseas, and grossly inflated land prices.
  • Daveyboy1961Daveyboy1961 Posts: 3,999

    DavidL said:

    Thanks all for your replies. Cinnamon deteriorated overnight and had to be put down so I have been stood down. This has been a hell of a January for us. The hits just keep coming.

    Very sad to hear. Losing our last dog last week hit me more than losing a brother and sister to be honest.
    Mind you my 2 siblings were remote and quite old..
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 54,208
    Foxy said:

    DavidL said:

    Thanks all for your replies. Cinnamon deteriorated overnight and had to be put down so I have been stood down. This has been a hell of a January for us. The hits just keep coming.

    Sorry to hear. The death of a pet leaves a big space.
    It was my daughter's cat rather than mine but she had had him for 10 years and he did feel a member of the family. The scariest bit is she is due to give birth next month and had already been warned that she had to find more time to relax and rest because they were worried about her blood pressure. This, along with her grandmother, is not helping.
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 62,065
    DavidL said:

    Thanks all for your replies. Cinnamon deteriorated overnight and had to be put down so I have been stood down. This has been a hell of a January for us. The hits just keep coming.

    My sympathies, Mr. L, and to Mr. 1961 as well on the loss of your dog.

    Suddenly losing a pet is not easy (my previous dog collapsed on a walk and died a few hours later).
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 42,330
    The latest scam in LA is people being contacted by ‘neighbourhood protection’ groups saying to contact them if you were evacuating your house and they would add the property to their guard list. Needless to say…

    Makes you proud to be human.
  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 11,935
    DavidL said:

    Thanks all for your replies. Cinnamon deteriorated overnight and had to be put down so I have been stood down. This has been a hell of a January for us. The hits just keep coming.

    Sorry for your loss.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 49,524
    DavidL said:

    Foxy said:

    DavidL said:

    Thanks all for your replies. Cinnamon deteriorated overnight and had to be put down so I have been stood down. This has been a hell of a January for us. The hits just keep coming.

    Sorry to hear. The death of a pet leaves a big space.
    It was my daughter's cat rather than mine but she had had him for 10 years and he did feel a member of the family. The scariest bit is she is due to give birth next month and had already been warned that she had to find more time to relax and rest because they were worried about her blood pressure. This, along with her grandmother, is not helping.
    Sounds like a lot coming together. Take care of yourself too.
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 42,330
    DavidL said:

    Foxy said:

    DavidL said:

    Thanks all for your replies. Cinnamon deteriorated overnight and had to be put down so I have been stood down. This has been a hell of a January for us. The hits just keep coming.

    Sorry to hear. The death of a pet leaves a big space.
    It was my daughter's cat rather than mine but she had had him for 10 years and he did feel a member of the family. The scariest bit is she is due to give birth next month and had already been warned that she had to find more time to relax and rest because they were worried about her blood pressure. This, along with her grandmother, is not helping.
    Sorry, that’s a tough month. Hope things start to look up.
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  • DavidL said:

    Thanks all for your replies. Cinnamon deteriorated overnight and had to be put down so I have been stood down. This has been a hell of a January for us. The hits just keep coming.

    So sorry to hear that

    My wife fostered cats when we were younger and at one time we had 14

    Each one of our cats deaths was so upsetting but at least they were loved and cherished and gave us so much

    Best wishes
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 29,368

    ....

    This Zuckerberg/Rogan interview is a big moment:

    https://x.com/libsoftiktok/status/1877785122314875330

    Mark Zuckerberg says the Biden admin called his employees and “screamed and cursed” at them to take down Covid/vaccine content. They wanted Meta to censor memes too.

    When he pushed back, the Biden regime started investigating his companies.

    “It was brutal.”

    What are you trying to demonstrate by posting this old bollocks from Zuckerberg? Is it a) Zuckerberg is a whiny twat or b) the Biden Administration was reluctant for people to promote anti-vaccine propaganda in the middle of a pandemic?
    To show the extent of the vibe shift in America.
    I think the election showed us the vibe shift in the US and that in exchange for cheaper gas people would vote for a seditious one time loser- would -be- fascist felony convict.

    I am not sure where an anti -vax narrative has entered the conversation except through the quivering wreck postings of Zuckerberg. What Zuckerberg has demonstrated is he will about turn to save his business. Perhaps we could get some thoughts from Nick Clegg.
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