Ed Balls: "They took a penny off a pint of beer - you've got to drink one hundred pints of beer to save a pound."
Sounds like Balls is promoting binge drinking...! ; )
To be fair, its a decent point, and let's face it, how many pubs are even going to bother altering their prices for a penny?
It will affect the prices of beer in supermarkets, for sure. While it's a penny off beer, it's also NOT a rise with inflation (see 13 years of Labour for that and more). That probably makes it a saving of 3p a pint.
Weird to hear a Labour politician claiming a tax cut was too small.
Osborne wasn't bothered about supermarkets, though. He said it'd help pubs. It won't, really, though will it, even at 3p a pint?
Eh? You started with "it doesn't help people because pubs wont bother changing the price", then moved to "even 3p a pint wont help pubs". One or other has to benefit, and 3p a pint would be another 1% on a pubs margin, which is not to be sniffed at.
On another topic, I was amused by one of your fire-fighting colleagues in Hampshire. Rescuing a couple trapped upstairs after a post van had crashed into the lower part of their house, the first thing he said was "were you expecting a parcel?".
But that Tory poster said they were making me nipping out for a pint cheaper, not increasing pub profits. I still stand by my view that pubs won't alter their prices by a penny.
Ed Balls: "They took a penny off a pint of beer - you've got to drink one hundred pints of beer to save a pound."
Sounds like Balls is promoting binge drinking...! ; )
To be fair, its a decent point, and let's face it, how many pubs are even going to bother altering their prices for a penny?
*quick google fu*
Taking the first of the results for beer drunk in England that = £160m either a) in the hands of the brewers = more profitable = create more jobs = scope for payrises; or b) in the hands of the punters = more (albeit not much more per capita) disposable income.
London/London parks? Yes def. Amazing. But only if you live in London. If you are outside London then meh.
A friend of mine visited from Huddersfield last summer. We visited Brockwell Park, which was buzzing of a sunny Saturday afternoon with sound systems and barbecues and little impromptu parties. She said: "It's really odd for us to see because in Yorkshire no-one even sits in the park."
What ?!? .... sit in a Yorkshire park in all the whippet sh*t and bombarded by racing pigeons and attacked by Nora Batty look-a-likes.
Fantastic news for the coalition and the North East of England. A train building factory. Making trains. Real ones.
Excellent news, though it does rather show how far industry has declined in the UK (which is not to criticise the Japanese of course) - it was the British who brought railways to Japan in the first place!
AIUI, the factory at Netwon Aycliffe that Hitachi will use to 'build' the IEP is just for assembly, not building, In other words, the trains are mostly made in Japan and shipped over here, where we add about tuppence of value.
Bombardier in Derby is sadly the only British large-scale trainmaker left.
As I wrote this morning, it will be interesting to see if this is just management wallahs moving over, or marketing as well. What we really want is the design work, and I fear that may be staying in Japan.
The whole IEP project is another procurement f'up.
Am I? Most the places you mention might be really exceptional to a person who has never left London and are nice to anyone. But "Glorious"? Really?
Yes really. Go and sit near Hampstead Mixed Pond in summer and you will see the glory of human life.
In the middle of this debate here , London is not a dump (as somebody said) and it is 'glorious' in many areas I feel but I do think Londoners over estimate their green spaces especially .Hampstead Heath is nice for example but no better than many a country park all over Britain. Maybe living as they do ,Londoners are grateful for any green space
As I have already said, try Epping Forest – more than 6,000 acres of ancient woodland. A truly beautiful expanse.
Richmond Park is also nice - they even have deer there!
I sometimes wonder if those that declare London a dump are out of towners who base their view on the fraction of one per cent of the capital that they have experienced – typically within a half-mile radius of Piccadilly Circus.
Yep. Also they are quite often jealous of London's perceived wealth and power and the sense that everything happens here; or they feel a subconscious - or conscious - inadequacy vis a vis the capital and its hideously expensive houses, houses which, of course, they could never buy, although they would rather like to.
They then convince themselves they hate the place so as to deal with this painful cognitive dissonance.
You can see this overly bitter resentment, in any UK debate about London involving non-Londoners.
That's is just not true . Most Brits love London . They like to visit and marvel at its history and culture and buildings. What they find a bit off putting is the arrogance shown in the London media and Londoners that EVERYTHING in London is better than elsewhere in the UK . You see it plainly in the fact that some Londoners will argue that Regents Park,Richmond Park or Hampstead Heath are the best open spaces in Britain when they are nowhere near.
Ed Balls: "They took a penny off a pint of beer - you've got to drink one hundred pints of beer to save a pound."
Sounds like Balls is promoting binge drinking...! ; )
To be fair, its a decent point, and let's face it, how many pubs are even going to bother altering their prices for a penny?
It will affect the prices of beer in supermarkets, for sure. While it's a penny off beer, it's also NOT a rise with inflation (see 13 years of Labour for that and more). That probably makes it a saving of 3p a pint.
Weird to hear a Labour politician claiming a tax cut was too small.
Osborne wasn't bothered about supermarkets, though. He said it'd help pubs. It won't, really, though will it, even at 3p a pint?
Eh? You started with "it doesn't help people because pubs wont bother changing the price", then moved to "even 3p a pint wont help pubs". One or other has to benefit, and 3p a pint would be another 1% on a pubs margin, which is not to be sniffed at.
On another topic, I was amused by one of your fire-fighting colleagues in Hampshire. Rescuing a couple trapped upstairs after a post van had crashed into the lower part of their house, the first thing he said was "were you expecting a parcel?".
Computer, now with Windows 7, had some updates when I logged off and some reconfiguration when I turned back on. Fine, except that now popups (ads and sidebar 'related searches' now appear on politicalbetting, as well as the Diplomacy site and Youtube (and, I would guess, many others). Any suggestions for stopping this damned annoyance?
Edited extra bit: I also turned off redirecting automatically to another page, which apparently Firefox blocked for this site when I refreshed just now.
Very few, Mr. Jessop, very few. There are lots of wonderful buildings and some splendid churches, but all round glorious parts? Nah. St. James's perhaps, Regents Park on on a summer's afternoon, bits of the City if you have your historical hat on, central Greenwich maybe but too touristy, Mayfair used to be (the place is nice but now too many of the people are ghastly, ditto Kensington and Chelsea). London is a dump, for all Mr. T's protestations about it being vibrant.
Can't comment too much about Edinburgh as I haven't been there for 20 years and most of my visits consisted of runs ashore, mostly along Rose Street - there was a pub there that sold pickled eggs and I remember ... well this is a family website.
I disagree. Perhaps it's just me, but I love walking through London. In January we walked from Mile End to a theatre in the Strand, and it seemed like every few yards had something of interest to see.
When I was ill and could not walk much, I used to walk along the Regents Canal from Mile End to Paddington. It was a wonderful walk - a green corridor through the heart of the city - and it still is. Likewise the Thames Path on either bank of the river.
Perhaps I have low standards, or just take an inordinate interest in minutiae and trivia. ;-)
I'd always caution people to avoid the touristy areas such as Camden though - they tend to be populated by poncy cream-tea boys made good.
Mr Jessop, I fully agree with you that London is packed full of interesting places and almost every corner or street has some history attached to it, especially in the City (I have written a couple of walks and calculated that there was a point of interest on average every 20 yards). However, to me that don't make those places, "glorious" merely interesting. London is a fascinating place and I dearly love the City and its environs, but only when I have my historical hat on. Considered at face value as it is now, London is a dump, with a couple of nice bits.
I think it's a case of beauty being in the eye of the beholder. Certainly, for me the walk along the Regents Canal is glorious, as is the Thames Path. Both make my spirits soar. I glory in them. They are delightful and magnificent.
They've even been known to make me sing. Much to the horror of everyone around me. ;-)
I also glory in wide, open spaces, particularly moorland. It appears I'm easily pleased ...
I do think there is some truth in that even though you are blatantly trolling out-of-towners ;-)
I myself held that view until, forced by my career choice to move here, I reluctantly became a Londoner. I now cannot contemplate living anywhere else, it being by far the capital of the world, and the richest city culturally and socially anywhere on Earth.
Ed Balls: "They took a penny off a pint of beer - you've got to drink one hundred pints of beer to save a pound."
Sounds like Balls is promoting binge drinking...! ; )
To be fair, its a decent point, and let's face it, how many pubs are even going to bother altering their prices for a penny?
*quick google fu*
Taking the first of the results for beer drunk in England that = £160m either a) in the hands of the brewers = more profitable = create more jobs = scope for payrises; or b) in the hands of the punters = more (albeit not much more per capita) disposable income.
London/London parks? Yes def. Amazing. But only if you live in London. If you are outside London then meh.
A friend of mine visited from Huddersfield last summer. We visited Brockwell Park, which was buzzing of a sunny Saturday afternoon with sound systems and barbecues and little impromptu parties. She said: "It's really odd for us to see because in Yorkshire no-one even sits in the park."
What ?!? .... sit in a Yorkshire park in all the whippet sh*t and bombarded by racing pigeons and attacked by Nora Batty look-a-likes.
Ee by gum lad, not on your nelly .....
It made me realise that we normalise things that really only happen in London.
I sometimes wonder if those that declare London a dump are out of towners who base their view on the fraction of one per cent of the capital that they have experienced – typically within a half-mile radius of Piccadilly Circus.
Most of the areas around London's mainline stations are pretty depressing for those arriving by train too.
I once based my view of London as the environs of Kings Cross. In the late nineties.
Computer, now with Windows 7, had some updates when I logged off and some reconfiguration when I turned back on. Fine, except that now popups (ads and sidebar 'related searches' now appear on politicalbetting, as well as the Diplomacy site and Youtube (and, I would guess, many others). Any suggestions for stopping this damned annoyance?
Am I? Most the places you mention might be really exceptional to a person who has never left London and are nice to anyone. But "Glorious"? Really?
Yes really. Go and sit near Hampstead Mixed Pond in summer and you will see the glory of human life.
In the middle of this debate here , London is not a dump (as somebody said) and it is 'glorious' in many areas I feel but I do think Londoners over estimate their green spaces especially .Hampstead Heath is nice for example but no better than many a country park all over Britain. Maybe living as they do ,Londoners are grateful for any green space
As I have already said, try Epping Forest – more than 6,000 acres of ancient woodland. A truly beautiful expanse.
Richmond Park is also nice - they even have deer there!
I sometimes wonder if those that declare London a dump are out of towners who base their view on the fraction of one per cent of the capital that they have experienced – typically within a half-mile radius of Piccadilly Circus.
Yep. Also they are quite often jealous of London's perceived wealth and power and the sense that everything happens here; or they feel a subconscious - or conscious - inadequacy vis a vis the capital and its hideously expensive houses, houses which, of course, they could never buy, although they would rather like to.
They then convince themselves they hate the place so as to deal with this painful cognitive dissonance.
You can see this overly bitter resentment, in any UK debate about London involving non-Londoners.
Most people have a pretty good view of the half mile radius around Piccadily Circus imo -its why its so popular
Ed Balls: "They took a penny off a pint of beer - you've got to drink one hundred pints of beer to save a pound."
Sounds like Balls is promoting binge drinking...! ; )
To be fair, its a decent point, and let's face it, how many pubs are even going to bother altering their prices for a penny?
*quick google fu*
Taking the first of the results for beer drunk in England that = £160m either a) in the hands of the brewers = more profitable = create more jobs = scope for payrises; or b) in the hands of the punters = more (albeit not much more per capita) disposable income.
London/London parks? Yes def. Amazing. But only if you live in London. If you are outside London then meh.
A friend of mine visited from Huddersfield last summer. We visited Brockwell Park, which was buzzing of a sunny Saturday afternoon with sound systems and barbecues and little impromptu parties. She said: "It's really odd for us to see because in Yorkshire no-one even sits in the park."
What ?!? .... sit in a Yorkshire park in all the whippet sh*t and bombarded by racing pigeons and attacked by Nora Batty look-a-likes.
Ee by gum lad, not on your nelly .....
It made me realise that we normalise things that really only happen in London.
Honestly sitting in a park does not happen only in London if that is what you mean
Ed Balls: "They took a penny off a pint of beer - you've got to drink one hundred pints of beer to save a pound."
Sounds like Balls is promoting binge drinking...! ; )
To be fair, its a decent point, and let's face it, how many pubs are even going to bother altering their prices for a penny?
*quick google fu*
Taking the first of the results for beer drunk in England that = £160m either a) in the hands of the brewers = more profitable = create more jobs = scope for payrises; or b) in the hands of the punters = more (albeit not much more per capita) disposable income.
London/London parks? Yes def. Amazing. But only if you live in London. If you are outside London then meh.
A friend of mine visited from Huddersfield last summer. We visited Brockwell Park, which was buzzing of a sunny Saturday afternoon with sound systems and barbecues and little impromptu parties. She said: "It's really odd for us to see because in Yorkshire no-one even sits in the park."
What ?!? .... sit in a Yorkshire park in all the whippet sh*t and bombarded by racing pigeons and attacked by Nora Batty look-a-likes.
Ee by gum lad, not on your nelly .....
It made me realise that we normalise things that really only happen in London.
Honestly sitting in a park does not happen only in London if that is what you mean
Well so I thought. But do you rock up the park on a summer Saturday to find girls in bikinis and barbecues blazing, and ragga men kicking out tunes on a sound system where you live?
I prefer to live in St Albans and commute in. The best of both worlds - with easy access to the theatre and music and good food, and that's just St Albans.
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Ee by gum lad, not on your nelly .....
Ban incoming ?
Bombardier in Derby is sadly the only British large-scale trainmaker left.
As I wrote this morning, it will be interesting to see if this is just management wallahs moving over, or marketing as well. What we really want is the design work, and I fear that may be staying in Japan.
The whole IEP project is another procurement f'up.
That's is just not true . Most Brits love London . They like to visit and marvel at its history and culture and buildings. What they find a bit off putting is the arrogance shown in the London media and Londoners that EVERYTHING in London is better than elsewhere in the UK . You see it plainly in the fact that some Londoners will argue that Regents Park,Richmond Park or Hampstead Heath are the best open spaces in Britain when they are nowhere near.
Computer, now with Windows 7, had some updates when I logged off and some reconfiguration when I turned back on. Fine, except that now popups (ads and sidebar 'related searches' now appear on politicalbetting, as well as the Diplomacy site and Youtube (and, I would guess, many others). Any suggestions for stopping this damned annoyance?
Edited extra bit: I also turned off redirecting automatically to another page, which apparently Firefox blocked for this site when I refreshed just now.
And even that is slated for a major redevelopment.
Oooppps .... over stepped the mark there .... No ball .....
They've even been known to make me sing. Much to the horror of everyone around me. ;-)
I also glory in wide, open spaces, particularly moorland. It appears I'm easily pleased ...
I do think there is some truth in that even though you are blatantly trolling out-of-towners ;-)
I myself held that view until, forced by my career choice to move here, I reluctantly became a Londoner. I now cannot contemplate living anywhere else, it being by far the capital of the world, and the richest city culturally and socially anywhere on Earth.
Arguably the best city to arrive at by train is Durham.
Most people have a pretty good view of the half mile radius around Piccadily Circus imo -its why its so popular
Any actual advice would be greatly appreciated. I haven't had to dodge bloody popups since Geocities were around.