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  • Richard_NabaviRichard_Nabavi Posts: 30,821

    If I wanted to open a shares ISA, choose the shares myself, leave the money there, and reinvest the dividends - can anyone point me to a comparison site that will tell me who offers the cheapest way to do this?

    Here you go:

    http://www.moneysupermarket.com/savings/self-select-isas/

    I can recommend both Hargreaves Lansdown and Barclays Stockbrokers, but others may also be good. In both cases the costs are very low if you buy shares yourself (as long as you don't trade too often, but you shouldn't be doing that anyway). It gets a bit more complicated if you have a big portfolio of funds (say over £100K in unit trusts) - in that case, Hargreaves Lansdown begins to look expensive.

  • BobaFettBobaFett Posts: 2,789
    And this from a poster whose name is State Go Away! Shurly shume mistake?
  • TykejohnnoTykejohnno Posts: 7,362
    john_zims said:

    @compouter2

    'The fact Shapps did it was bad enough, then Osborne to try and defuse the situation says he goes to bingo in a tweet'

    24 hours after the budget this is the only thing Labour has got to say,truly awesome.

    I heard Osborne on radio 5 this morning,he said he as played bingo not goes to bingo.

  • state_go_awaystate_go_away Posts: 5,818
    edited March 2014
    surbiton said:

    The fact Shapps did it was bad enough, then Osborne to try and defuse the situation says he goes to bingo in a tweet and when asked where/when refuses to answer....and then this. PRTASTIC!

    Did he say he goes to bingo or just he as played bingo ?

    Dave and Gideon have the compulsive urge to tell the voters how "ordinary" they are.

    To be fair, Boris does not have that hang-up.

    Dave maybe , but George does not have much form in this area ,does not hide his skiing holidays etc. If he has said he has played bingo it might just possibly be because he has?

    Its the labour party top brass almost to a man or woman that strive to 'blend' in with their voters more than the Tories. Exception possibly Mandy and he probably realised there was more to being a top politician than pretending to be like everyone else
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 52,937
    john_zims said:

    @compouter2

    'The fact Shapps did it was bad enough, then Osborne to try and defuse the situation says he goes to bingo in a tweet'

    24 hours after the budget this is the only thing Labour has got to say,truly awesome.

    Exactly. Hugely comforting for those of us predicting Labour to crash and burn on the economy during the election campaign....
  • state_go_awaystate_go_away Posts: 5,818

    "... London has some glorious parts in it ..."

    Very few, Mr. Jessop, very few. There are lots of wonderful buildings and some splendid churches, but all round glorious parts? Nah. St. James's perhaps, Regents Park on on a summer's afternoon, bits of the City if you have your historical hat on, central Greenwich maybe but too touristy, Mayfair used to be (the place is nice but now too many of the people are ghastly, ditto Kensington and Chelsea). London is a dump, for all Mr. T's protestations about it being vibrant.

    Can't comment too much about Edinburgh as I haven't been there for 20 years and most of my visits consisted of runs ashore, mostly along Rose Street - there was a pub there that sold pickled eggs and I remember ... well this is a family website.

    I disagree. Perhaps it's just me, but I love walking through London. In January we walked from Mile End to a theatre in the Strand, and it seemed like every few yards had something of interest to see.

    When I was ill and could not walk much, I used to walk along the Regents Canal from Mile End to Paddington. It was a wonderful walk - a green corridor through the heart of the city - and it still is. Likewise the Thames Path on either bank of the river.

    Perhaps I have low standards, or just take an inordinate interest in minutiae and trivia. ;-)

    I'd always caution people to avoid the touristy areas such as Camden though - they tend to be populated by poncy cream-tea boys made good.
    Mr Jessop, I fully agree with you that London is packed full of interesting places and almost every corner or street has some history attached to it, especially in the City (I have written a couple of walks and calculated that there was a point of interest on average every 20 yards). However, to me that don't make those places, "glorious" merely interesting. London is a fascinating place and I dearly love the City and its environs, but only when I have my historical hat on. Considered at face value as it is now, London is a dump, with a couple of nice bits.

    Give me some examples on what you find 'glorious' - genuinely interested
  • TykejohnnoTykejohnno Posts: 7,362

    Michael Deacon ✔ @MichaelPDeacon

    Ed Balls: "Apparently when the Chancellor told the PM he wanted to cut tax on bingo, the PM thought he meant an old school chum

  • SouthamObserverSouthamObserver Posts: 39,668
    taffys said:

    Labour MPs who keep laughing at Tory tax cuts on Twitter are doing CCHQ's job.

    Exactly.

    Will we see Dave & George going for a highly publicised pint and an eyes down in the North?

    Now that would be truly glorious, but surely too much to hope for.

  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    JackW said:

    Steve Webb just commanded the HoC on pensions and savings. Labour utterly routed.

    Balls now up on the budget. Any better than Ed yesterday, we'll see.

    Not so far.

    10 min riff on the Tory Tax cut, followed by a whinge for not enacting Labour's loony ideas.

    He may mention the budget before he ends
  • HurstLlamaHurstLlama Posts: 9,098

    SeanT said:

    BobaFett said:

    TGOHF said:

    BobaFett said:

    TGOHF said:

    Labour's obsession with a light-hearted tweet is absolutely extraordinary.

    We have the biggest shake up in pensions for a generation, and they are having orgasms about deconstructing the exact significance of the word 'they' in a tweet.

    What a sad spectacle, especially given the risk that these jokers might actually be in government again in just over a year.

    One is reminded of the "Fire up the Quattro" farrago - Labour thought they had won the election on the back of it - shortly before polling 27.9% in England.
    I don't think anyone sensible did think that, actually.
    We had a poster called tim who did.
    So one bloke who no longer posts thought it was. Hardly a representative sample of all Labour supporters!
    The PB Hodges are still suffering from Tim withdrawl symptoms so use any excuse to shoehorn his name into posts ;-)
    Hmm. Maybe. There are some new posters here who have exactly the same repetitive, eerie, relentless, obsessive-compulsive writing style, so he is perhaps less missed than he was.

    If the Tories do move ahead in the polls and Osborne turns out to be a master strategist there will be a few on here who'll bitterly regret they drove Tim away.


    Mr. Observer,

    "If the Tories do move ahead in the polls ..."

    Unlikely, but not, I suppose, impossible.

    "...and Osborne turns out to be a master strategist ... "

    Moving into realms of fantasy here

    "... there will be a few on here who'll bitterly regret they drove Tim away"

    Complete logical disconnect. Not only that, has he actually gone away? I don't think so, do you?

  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453


    Michael Deacon ✔ @MichaelPDeacon

    Ed Balls: "Apparently when the Chancellor told the PM he wanted to cut tax on bingo, the PM thought he meant an old school chum

    It loses something without Ed Balls delivery... It was much worse live.
  • TykejohnnoTykejohnno Posts: 7,362

    Mark Pritchard @MPritchardMP

    Labour Party now say they will vote for the benefits cap. Massive u-turn, huge in-fighting amongst Labour MPs, lots of apologies due to govt

  • Mick_Pork said:

    Jeez, Mick, how many more times are you going to post that Alexander quote? It was amusing the first couple of times. Now, it's no funnier than ARSE or squirrels.

    I remember exactly that kind of pitiful whining bullshit right around the time of the pasty hilarity. Well done on proving my point.

    You must have missed Gove being bawled out by the fop for daring to question the chumocracy's Eton stranglehold mere days ago. Or the fact that being out of touch is a perfectly valid criticism which their own cabinet colleagues and MPs have made and one which Cammie and Osbrowne only have themselves to blame for.

    "We're all in this together."

    Remember?

    If you don't enjoy CCHQs comical PR disasters then take your complaints to them because I certainly don't give a crap if it upsets you to be reminded of them.

    You callin' me a PB Tory? I might have to flounce.

  • Mick_PorkMick_Pork Posts: 6,530

    SeanT said:

    BobaFett said:

    TGOHF said:

    BobaFett said:

    TGOHF said:

    Labour's obsession with a light-hearted tweet is absolutely extraordinary.

    We have the biggest shake up in pensions for a generation, and they are having orgasms about deconstructing the exact significance of the word 'they' in a tweet.

    What a sad spectacle, especially given the risk that these jokers might actually be in government again in just over a year.

    One is reminded of the "Fire up the Quattro" farrago - Labour thought they had won the election on the back of it - shortly before polling 27.9% in England.
    I don't think anyone sensible did think that, actually.
    We had a poster called tim who did.
    So one bloke who no longer posts thought it was. Hardly a representative sample of all Labour supporters!
    The PB Hodges are still suffering from Tim withdrawl symptoms so use any excuse to shoehorn his name into posts ;-)
    Hmm. Maybe. There are some new posters here who have exactly the same repetitive, eerie, relentless, obsessive-compulsive writing style, so he is perhaps less missed than he was.

    If the Tories do move ahead in the polls and Osborne turns out to be a master strategist there will be a few on here who'll bitterly regret they drove Tim away.

    Drove him away?

    I think you meant to type 'forced him to change his login'


    "... there will be a few on here who'll bitterly regret they drove Tim away"

    Complete logical disconnect. Not only that, has he actually gone away? I don't think so, do you?

    ROFL

    Keep the proof coming chaps. This is great stuff.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 54,016
    JackW said:

    Steve Webb just commanded the HoC on pensions and savings. Labour utterly routed.

    Balls now up on the budget. Any better than Ed yesterday, we'll see.

    It is pretty poor stuff but that makes it miles better than yesterday.

  • SouthamObserverSouthamObserver Posts: 39,668
    Has there ever been a better time in the last 100 years to be well off in the UK?
  • state_go_awaystate_go_away Posts: 5,818

    Has there ever been a better time in the last 100 years to be well off in the UK? </blockquote

    oh yes

  • TykejohnnoTykejohnno Posts: 7,362

    Harry Cole @MrHarryCole

    Just when you thought Miliband was rubbish, up comes Balls. You can tell he doesn't really believe what he is saying.

  • Mick_PorkMick_Pork Posts: 6,530
    edited March 2014

    Mick_Pork said:

    Jeez, Mick, how many more times are you going to post that Alexander quote? It was amusing the first couple of times. Now, it's no funnier than ARSE or squirrels.

    I remember exactly that kind of pitiful whining bullshit right around the time of the pasty hilarity. Well done on proving my point.

    You must have missed Gove being bawled out by the fop for daring to question the chumocracy's Eton stranglehold mere days ago. Or the fact that being out of touch is a perfectly valid criticism which their own cabinet colleagues and MPs have made and one which Cammie and Osbrowne only have themselves to blame for.

    "We're all in this together."

    Remember?

    If you don't enjoy CCHQs comical PR disasters then take your complaints to them because I certainly don't give a crap if it upsets you to be reminded of them.

    You callin' me a PB Tory?

    Do you see me callin' you a PB tory me 'old china'? *chortle* Then why so upset?
  • PBModeratorPBModerator Posts: 665
    Posters appear to have forgotten Mike Smithson's instruction not to accuse newish posters of being old posters.

    We recently banned a poster who could not adhere to that rule, please don't follow the same route
  • JackWJackW Posts: 14,787


    Michael Deacon ✔ @MichaelPDeacon

    Ed Balls: "Apparently when the Chancellor told the PM he wanted to cut tax on bingo, the PM thought he meant an old school chum

    It was a good quip but Ed ballsed the delivery.

  • BobaFettBobaFett Posts: 2,789
    Scott_P said:

    JackW said:

    Steve Webb just commanded the HoC on pensions and savings. Labour utterly routed.

    Balls now up on the budget. Any better than Ed yesterday, we'll see.

    Not so far.

    10 min riff on the Tory Tax cut, followed by a whinge for not enacting Labour's loony ideas.

    He may mention the budget before he ends
    So to surmise, the government's HoC presentation was an awesome masterstroke and Ed Balls' response a complete disaster. I'm glad I come on here for the insight.
  • TykejohnnoTykejohnno Posts: 7,362

    Iain @Iain_33

    full class war from Ed Balls "when the Chancellor told the PM he was going to cut taxes for Bingo he assumed it was a school chum"

  • state_go_awaystate_go_away Posts: 5,818
    Noticed that bookie shares have gone down further than annuity provider shares post Budget. I think the tax rise in FOBT lays a foundation to rise it further whoever gets in next time.
  • SouthamObserverSouthamObserver Posts: 39,668

    Has there ever been a better time in the last 100 years to be well off in the UK?

    When? These savings and pension rules are a huge boost, salaries and bonuses are on the rise, house prices are going up, interest rates are low, markets have been buoyant, income and dividend taxes have been cut, subsidised nannies are about to become available ...

  • taffystaffys Posts: 9,753
    Has there ever been a better time in the last 100 years to be well off in the UK?

    You have a point, but here's the thing...

    Has there ever been a better time in the last 100 years to be 'poor?'
  • Mick_PorkMick_Pork Posts: 6,530


    Iain @Iain_33

    full class war from Ed Balls "when the Chancellor told the PM he was going to cut taxes for Bingo he assumed it was a school chum"

    No doubt that lefty class warrior Gove wasn't trying to stifle a laugh.
  • Richard_NabaviRichard_Nabavi Posts: 30,821
    edited March 2014

    subsidised nannies are about to become available ...

    LOL!
  • volcanopetevolcanopete Posts: 2,078
    Bad news for Osborne from the allotments-nothing in the budget for pigeon racing has not gone down well.
  • state_go_awaystate_go_away Posts: 5,818

    Has there ever been a better time in the last 100 years to be well off in the UK?

    When? These savings and pension rules are a huge boost, salaries and bonuses are on the rise, house prices are going up, interest rates are low, markets have been buoyant, income and dividend taxes have been cut, subsidised nannies are about to become available ...


    yes its easier to get very wealthy now but I took your question to mean if you were wealthy already is it the best time? Depending on your morals I suppose but I think you could get away with more things 100 years ago if you had the money than you could now. Most of lifes pleasures now are fairly universally shared like TV ,internet ,even cars etc
  • john_zimsjohn_zims Posts: 3,399
    @state_go_away

    'Its the labour party top brass almost to a man or woman that strive to 'blend' in with their voters'

    Always funny to watch.
  • Mick_Pork said:

    Mick_Pork said:

    Jeez, Mick, how many more times are you going to post that Alexander quote? It was amusing the first couple of times. Now, it's no funnier than ARSE or squirrels.

    I remember exactly that kind of pitiful whining bullshit right around the time of the pasty hilarity. Well done on proving my point.

    You must have missed Gove being bawled out by the fop for daring to question the chumocracy's Eton stranglehold mere days ago. Or the fact that being out of touch is a perfectly valid criticism which their own cabinet colleagues and MPs have made and one which Cammie and Osbrowne only have themselves to blame for.

    "We're all in this together."

    Remember?

    If you don't enjoy CCHQs comical PR disasters then take your complaints to them because I certainly don't give a crap if it upsets you to be reminded of them.

    You callin' me a PB Tory?

    Do you see me callin' you a PB tory me 'old china'? *chortle* Then why so upset?
    Upset? It's the internet mate, it ain't real. I think the only time I got upset about the internet was the time the Mrs did an IT course at work, and learned all about viewing "Internet Browsing History"!

  • Mick_PorkMick_Pork Posts: 6,530
    edited March 2014
    BobaFett said:

    Scott_P said:

    JackW said:

    Steve Webb just commanded the HoC on pensions and savings. Labour utterly routed.

    Balls now up on the budget. Any better than Ed yesterday, we'll see.

    Not so far.

    10 min riff on the Tory Tax cut, followed by a whinge for not enacting Labour's loony ideas.

    He may mention the budget before he ends
    So to surmise, the government's HoC presentation was an awesome masterstroke and Ed Balls' response a complete disaster. I'm glad I come on here for the insight.
    Here you go.

    J Dan Hodges
    @DPJHodges


    Straight to the heart of the obsequious Cameroonian spinners 'thinking'.
  • JackWJackW Posts: 14,787
    BobaFett said:

    Scott_P said:

    JackW said:

    Steve Webb just commanded the HoC on pensions and savings. Labour utterly routed.

    Balls now up on the budget. Any better than Ed yesterday, we'll see.

    Not so far.

    10 min riff on the Tory Tax cut, followed by a whinge for not enacting Labour's loony ideas.

    He may mention the budget before he ends
    So to surmise, the government's HoC presentation was an awesome masterstroke and Ed Balls' response a complete disaster. I'm glad I come on here for the insight.
    You're welcome.

    Balls better than Miliband yesterday .... ok not a great endorsement but small steps, small steps.

  • state_go_awaystate_go_away Posts: 5,818


    Iain @Iain_33

    full class war from Ed Balls "when the Chancellor told the PM he was going to cut taxes for Bingo he assumed it was a school chum"

    Again highlighting a tory tax cut for a pleasure in life -not very clever despite the laughs it gets in the right- on echo chamber (borrowed that from a post below )
  • SouthamObserverSouthamObserver Posts: 39,668
    taffys said:

    Has there ever been a better time in the last 100 years to be well off in the UK?

    You have a point, but here's the thing...

    Has there ever been a better time in the last 100 years to be 'poor?'

    It was probably better five to 10 years ago.

    I am actually not making a political point here, I am genuinely interested. From a financial perspective, it truly is a wonderful time to be a top rate taxpayer and it's hard to think of a time when it could possibly have been better.

  • HurstLlamaHurstLlama Posts: 9,098

    "... London has some glorious parts in it ..."

    Very few, Mr. Jessop, very few. There are lots of wonderful buildings and some splendid churches, but all round glorious parts? Nah. St. James's perhaps, Regents Park on on a summer's afternoon, bits of the City if you have your historical hat on, central Greenwich maybe but too touristy, Mayfair used to be (the place is nice but now too many of the people are ghastly, ditto Kensington and Chelsea). London is a dump, for all Mr. T's protestations about it being vibrant.

    Can't comment too much about Edinburgh as I haven't been there for 20 years and most of my visits consisted of runs ashore, mostly along Rose Street - there was a pub there that sold pickled eggs and I remember ... well this is a family website.

    I disagree. Perhaps it's just me, but I love walking through London. In January we walked from Mile End to a theatre in the Strand, and it seemed like every few yards had something of interest to see.

    When I was ill and could not walk much, I used to walk along the Regents Canal from Mile End to Paddington. It was a wonderful walk - a green corridor through the heart of the city - and it still is. Likewise the Thames Path on either bank of the river.

    Perhaps I have low standards, or just take an inordinate interest in minutiae and trivia. ;-)

    I'd always caution people to avoid the touristy areas such as Camden though - they tend to be populated by poncy cream-tea boys made good.
    Mr Jessop, I fully agree with you that London is packed full of interesting places and almost every corner or street has some history attached to it, especially in the City (I have written a couple of walks and calculated that there was a point of interest on average every 20 yards). However, to me that don't make those places, "glorious" merely interesting. London is a fascinating place and I dearly love the City and its environs, but only when I have my historical hat on. Considered at face value as it is now, London is a dump, with a couple of nice bits.

    Give me some examples on what you find 'glorious' - genuinely interested
    Mr. Go_Away, In my original post on this subject I did do just that.

  • SouthamObserverSouthamObserver Posts: 39,668


    Iain @Iain_33

    full class war from Ed Balls "when the Chancellor told the PM he was going to cut taxes for Bingo he assumed it was a school chum"

    Slight sense of humour failure there ...

  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,410
    VAT man in.

    Talk about Guilty till proven innocent !

    Last few days spent frantically attaching export docs to invoices - worse than a bloody audit :P
  • state_go_awaystate_go_away Posts: 5,818

    "... London has some glorious parts in it ..."

    Very few, Mr. Jessop, very few. There are lots of wonderful buildings and some splendid churches, but all round glorious parts? Nah. St. James's perhaps, Regents Park on on a summer's afternoon, bits of the City if you have your historical hat on, central Greenwich maybe but too touristy, Mayfair used to be (the place is nice but now too many of the people are ghastly, ditto Kensington and Chelsea). London is a dump, for all Mr. T's protestations about it being vibrant.

    Can't comment too much about Edinburgh as I haven't been there for 20 years and most of my visits consisted of runs ashore, mostly along Rose Street - there was a pub there that sold pickled eggs and I remember ... well this is a family website.

    I disagree. Perhaps it's just me, but I love walking through London. In January we walked from Mile End to a theatre in the Strand, and it seemed like every few yards had something of interest to see.

    When I was ill and could not walk much, I used to walk along the Regents Canal from Mile End to Paddington. It was a wonderful walk - a green corridor through the heart of the city - and it still is. Likewise the Thames Path on either bank of the river.

    Perhaps I have low standards, or just take an inordinate interest in minutiae and trivia. ;-)

    I'd always caution people to avoid the touristy areas such as Camden though - they tend to be populated by poncy cream-tea boys made good.
    Mr Jessop, I fully agree with you that London is packed full of interesting places and almost every corner or street has some history attached to it, especially in the City (I have written a couple of walks and calculated that there was a point of interest on average every 20 yards). However, to me that don't make those places, "glorious" merely interesting. London is a fascinating place and I dearly love the City and its environs, but only when I have my historical hat on. Considered at face value as it is now, London is a dump, with a couple of nice bits.

    Give me some examples on what you find 'glorious' - genuinely interested
    Mr. Go_Away, In my original post on this subject I did do just that.

    Ok
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    So if Labour wants to spend the rest of the week telling the country “You won’t believe what those Tory toffs have done now! They’ve only gone and cut the tax on your beer and your bingo! How out of touch can you get!”, fine. But Shapps won’t be complaining.
    http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/danhodges/100264591/labours-fury-stop-patronising-the-working-class-grant-shapps-thats-our-job/
  • TykejohnnoTykejohnno Posts: 7,362

    Mark Pritchard @MPritchardMP

    Message to Ed Miliband: please, please, please don't sack Ed Balls.............!

  • mdajrtmdajrt Posts: 2
    I can't see how Labour can win in 2015, they haven't had poll leads of 15-20 points during this parliament which other Labour leaders have had and if they don't top the poll in the Euro elections then surely Miliband is a dead man walking !!!
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 54,016
    I don't think he has been drinking. It is just his style isn't it?
  • taffystaffys Posts: 9,753
    edited March 2014
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-26657455

    Fantastic news for the coalition and the North East of England. A train building factory. Making trains. Real ones.
  • BobaFettBobaFett Posts: 2,789
    Scott_P said:

    So if Labour wants to spend the rest of the week telling the country “You won’t believe what those Tory toffs have done now! They’ve only gone and cut the tax on your beer and your bingo! How out of touch can you get!”, fine. But Shapps won’t be complaining.
    http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/danhodges/100264591/labours-fury-stop-patronising-the-working-class-grant-shapps-thats-our-job/

    Dan Hodges says Grant Shapps tweet about bingo loving working classes is a disaster for Ed Miliband.

    What's your ScottP? You don't actually say – you never do.

  • TykejohnnoTykejohnno Posts: 7,362


    Iain @Iain_33

    full class war from Ed Balls "when the Chancellor told the PM he was going to cut taxes for Bingo he assumed it was a school chum"

    Slight sense of humour failure there ...

    You may have the sense of humour failure,I thought it was funny.

  • BobaFettBobaFett Posts: 2,789
    Scott_P said:

    So if Labour wants to spend the rest of the week telling the country “You won’t believe what those Tory toffs have done now! They’ve only gone and cut the tax on your beer and your bingo! How out of touch can you get!”, fine. But Shapps won’t be complaining.
    http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/danhodges/100264591/labours-fury-stop-patronising-the-working-class-grant-shapps-thats-our-job/

    Dan Hodges says Grant Shapps tweet about bingo loving working classes is a disaster for Ed Miliband.

    What's your view ScottP? You don't actually say – you never do.
  • HurstLlamaHurstLlama Posts: 9,098
    @BobaFet

    "LAUGHABLY AND COMPLETELY WRONG."

    Am I? Most the places you mention might be really exceptional to a person who has never left London and are nice to anyone. But "Glorious"? Really?
  • state_go_awaystate_go_away Posts: 5,818
    Another Budget point was that tax avoidance schemes cannot just be declared on a tax return and then the Revenue challenge it years down the line but that the tax saved from a scheme will now have to be paid over at the normal due date and then refunded if the court rules in favour of the scheme .

    Massive step overlooked by bleeding bingo etc -- Good news and should see a lot less use of these schemes
  • BobaFettBobaFett Posts: 2,789


    Iain @Iain_33

    full class war from Ed Balls "when the Chancellor told the PM he was going to cut taxes for Bingo he assumed it was a school chum"

    Again highlighting a tory tax cut for a pleasure in life -not very clever despite the laughs it gets in the right- on echo chamber (borrowed that from a post below )
    So you think it was a good move? Noted.
  • richardDoddrichardDodd Posts: 5,472
    Out of 10..what is the most patronosing?.. saying people enjoy a pint and Bingo or saying the very same people cannot be trusted to spend their own money.
  • SouthamObserverSouthamObserver Posts: 39,668
    edited March 2014


    Iain @Iain_33

    full class war from Ed Balls "when the Chancellor told the PM he was going to cut taxes for Bingo he assumed it was a school chum"

    Slight sense of humour failure there ...

    You may have the sense of humour failure,I thought it was funny.

    It was. I was referring to the Tweeter.

  • AnorakAnorak Posts: 6,621
    edited March 2014

    Has there ever been a better time in the last 100 years to be well off in the UK?

    When? These savings and pension rules are a huge boost, salaries and bonuses are on the rise, house prices are going up, interest rates are low, markets have been buoyant, income and dividend taxes have been cut, subsidised nannies are about to become available ...

    Subsidised nannies are available now, and have been for years. If they're properly registered you can use child care vouchers. And, might I ask, why is that so objectionable?
  • BobaFettBobaFett Posts: 2,789


    Iain @Iain_33

    full class war from Ed Balls "when the Chancellor told the PM he was going to cut taxes for Bingo he assumed it was a school chum"

    Slight sense of humour failure there ...

    To be fair SO I took that as Tyke saying he liked the gag.

  • state_go_awaystate_go_away Posts: 5,818
    BobaFett said:


    Iain @Iain_33

    full class war from Ed Balls "when the Chancellor told the PM he was going to cut taxes for Bingo he assumed it was a school chum"

    Again highlighting a tory tax cut for a pleasure in life -not very clever despite the laughs it gets in the right- on echo chamber (borrowed that from a post below )
    So you think it was a good move? Noted.

    Not by Ed Balls I don't
  • BobaFettBobaFett Posts: 2,789

    @BobaFet

    "LAUGHABLY AND COMPLETELY WRONG."

    Am I? Most the places you mention might be really exceptional to a person who has never left London and are nice to anyone. But "Glorious"? Really?

    Yes really. Go and sit near Hampstead Mixed Pond in summer and you will see the glory of human life.
  • Mick_PorkMick_Pork Posts: 6,530
    Dan Rebellato ‏@DanRebellato 2h

    If you think @grantshapps’s poster was bad, you should see the one they rejected. pic.twitter.com/0Ur0bEb07T

    LOL

    John Grady ‏@SlyLondon 4m

    I much preferred Grant Shapps when he was just plain old Michael Green the online conman
  • BobaFettBobaFett Posts: 2,789

    BobaFett said:


    Iain @Iain_33

    full class war from Ed Balls "when the Chancellor told the PM he was going to cut taxes for Bingo he assumed it was a school chum"

    Again highlighting a tory tax cut for a pleasure in life -not very clever despite the laughs it gets in the right- on echo chamber (borrowed that from a post below )
    So you think it was a good move? Noted.

    Not by Ed Balls I don't
    No I'm asking you whether you thought the bingo poster was a good move.
  • state_go_awaystate_go_away Posts: 5,818
    BobaFett said:

    @BobaFet

    "LAUGHABLY AND COMPLETELY WRONG."

    Am I? Most the places you mention might be really exceptional to a person who has never left London and are nice to anyone. But "Glorious"? Really?

    Yes really. Go and sit near Hampstead Mixed Pond in summer and you will see the glory of human life.
    In the middle of this debate here , London is not a dump (as somebody said) and it is 'glorious' in many areas I feel but I do think Londoners over estimate their green spaces especially .Hampstead Heath is nice for example but no better than many a country park all over Britain. Maybe living as they do ,Londoners are grateful for any green space

  • FloaterFloater Posts: 14,207
    Saw Ed's comments to the house. hmmm the fairest I can say is that Balls meltdown was worse.

  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 52,937

    Bad news for Osborne from the allotments-nothing in the budget for pigeon racing has not gone down well.

    Although to be fair, he didn't re-introduce a Dog Licence on t'whippet.....
  • state_go_awaystate_go_away Posts: 5,818
    edited March 2014
    BobaFett said:

    BobaFett said:


    Iain @Iain_33

    full class war from Ed Balls "when the Chancellor told the PM he was going to cut taxes for Bingo he assumed it was a school chum"

    Again highlighting a tory tax cut for a pleasure in life -not very clever despite the laughs it gets in the right- on echo chamber (borrowed that from a post below )
    So you think it was a good move? Noted.

    Not by Ed Balls I don't
    No I'm asking you whether you thought the bingo poster was a good move.

    Well normally it would not matter much either way in that it is a insignificant move . If Labour choose to sneer at it and advertise a tory tax cut on a little pleasure in life (like alcohol and gambling) then yes its a good if unintended move by whoever wrote it.

    The tories may make the mistake of listening to the media elite and start to say sorry for it etc but that would be a mistake imo - They should defend it
  • AnorakAnorak Posts: 6,621
    Mick_Pork said:

    Dan Rebellato ‏@DanRebellato 2h

    If you think @grantshapps’s poster was bad, you should see the one they rejected. pic.twitter.com/0Ur0bEb07T

    LOL

    John Grady ‏@SlyLondon 4m

    I much preferred Grant Shapps when he was just plain old Michael Green the online conman

    There must be wittier spoof versions than that by now. That was just a series of tedious overused tropes. Ah. I see.
  • TwistedFireStopperTwistedFireStopper Posts: 2,538
    edited March 2014
    BobaFett said:

    @BobaFet

    "LAUGHABLY AND COMPLETELY WRONG."

    Am I? Most the places you mention might be really exceptional to a person who has never left London and are nice to anyone. But "Glorious"? Really?

    Yes really. Go and sit near Hampstead Mixed Pond in summer and you will see the glory of human life.
    I can get that around here. Sherwood Forest at dawn, Bradgate Park at dusk on a Summer evening. Hell, I can hop over my fence and I could be the only person alive in a matter of minutes, just me and a Muntjac, eyeballing each other. There is no way you're telling me a grubby little park in an overcrowded city is better than that.
  • SimonStClareSimonStClare Posts: 7,976
    Nick Binns ‏@HowfenClaret 1m

    Ed Balls: "They took a penny off a pint of beer - you've got to drink one hundred pints of beer to save a pound."

    Sounds like Balls is promoting binge drinking...! ; )
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,507
    edited March 2014
    "

    Posters appear to have forgotten Mike Smithson's instruction not to accuse newish posters of being old posters.

    We recently banned a poster who could not adhere to that rule, please don't follow the same route

    Maybe you should stop people multi-accounting. It blatantly obvious what is going on, even to people who only read PB once or twice a day.
  • BobaFettBobaFett Posts: 2,789

    BobaFett said:

    @BobaFet

    "LAUGHABLY AND COMPLETELY WRONG."

    Am I? Most the places you mention might be really exceptional to a person who has never left London and are nice to anyone. But "Glorious"? Really?

    Yes really. Go and sit near Hampstead Mixed Pond in summer and you will see the glory of human life.
    I can get that around here. Sherwood Forest at dawn, Bradgate Park at dusk on a Summer evening. Hell, I can hop over my fence and I could be the only person alive in a matter of minutes, just me and a Muntjac, eyeballing each other. There is no way you're telling me a grubby little park in an overcrowded city is better than that.
    I like Bradgate Park.

    But have you ever been to Epping Forest? Entirely isolated in parts, ancient, full of history, and peaceful. And vastly, vastly larger than Bradgate Park.

    Open your mind.

  • BobaFettBobaFett Posts: 2,789

    BobaFett said:

    BobaFett said:


    Iain @Iain_33

    full class war from Ed Balls "when the Chancellor told the PM he was going to cut taxes for Bingo he assumed it was a school chum"

    Again highlighting a tory tax cut for a pleasure in life -not very clever despite the laughs it gets in the right- on echo chamber (borrowed that from a post below )
    So you think it was a good move? Noted.

    Not by Ed Balls I don't
    No I'm asking you whether you thought the bingo poster was a good move.

    Well normally it would not matter much either way in that it is a insignificant move . If Labour choose to sneer at it and advertise a tory tax cut on a little pleasure in life (like alcohol and gambling) then yes its a good if unintended move by whoever wrote it.

    The tories may make the mistake of listening to the media elite and start to say sorry for it etc but that would be a mistake imo - They should defend it
    Noted. We'll see...
  • HurstLlamaHurstLlama Posts: 9,098
    BobaFett said:

    @BobaFet

    "LAUGHABLY AND COMPLETELY WRONG."

    Am I? Most the places you mention might be really exceptional to a person who has never left London and are nice to anyone. But "Glorious"? Really?

    Yes really. Go and sit near Hampstead Mixed Pond in summer and you will see the glory of human life.
    Mr Fett, I can go and sit by the Hammer Pond at Slaugham and see the glory of life.

    London is unique, it always has been and, probably always will be. It is in many ways the living history of our society (through that window stepped Charles I on to the scaffold sort of stuff). However, glorious London ain't. It is in the main a dump.
  • BobaFett said:

    BobaFett said:

    @BobaFet

    "LAUGHABLY AND COMPLETELY WRONG."

    Am I? Most the places you mention might be really exceptional to a person who has never left London and are nice to anyone. But "Glorious"? Really?

    Yes really. Go and sit near Hampstead Mixed Pond in summer and you will see the glory of human life.
    I can get that around here. Sherwood Forest at dawn, Bradgate Park at dusk on a Summer evening. Hell, I can hop over my fence and I could be the only person alive in a matter of minutes, just me and a Muntjac, eyeballing each other. There is no way you're telling me a grubby little park in an overcrowded city is better than that.
    I like Bradgate Park.

    But have you ever been to Epping Forest? Entirely isolated in parts, ancient, full of history, and peaceful. And vastly, vastly larger than Bradgate Park.

    Open your mind.

    To what? Londoners are just like Manchester United fans. It's the hubris.

  • state_go_awaystate_go_away Posts: 5,818
    BobaFett said:

    BobaFett said:

    @BobaFet

    "LAUGHABLY AND COMPLETELY WRONG."

    Am I? Most the places you mention might be really exceptional to a person who has never left London and are nice to anyone. But "Glorious"? Really?

    Yes really. Go and sit near Hampstead Mixed Pond in summer and you will see the glory of human life.
    I can get that around here. Sherwood Forest at dawn, Bradgate Park at dusk on a Summer evening. Hell, I can hop over my fence and I could be the only person alive in a matter of minutes, just me and a Muntjac, eyeballing each other. There is no way you're telling me a grubby little park in an overcrowded city is better than that.
    I like Bradgate Park.

    But have you ever been to Epping Forest? Entirely isolated in parts, ancient, full of history, and peaceful. And vastly, vastly larger than Bradgate Park.

    Open your mind.

    Again Epping Forest is ok as a forest but its no better than the New Forest or even Sherwood forest (and it doesn't have a Robin hood!!)
    You cannot beat London for its culture, history, its unplanned streets and buidlings and its diversity. You can beat it for its open spaces and parks imho
  • BobaFettBobaFett Posts: 2,789

    BobaFett said:

    @BobaFet

    "LAUGHABLY AND COMPLETELY WRONG."

    Am I? Most the places you mention might be really exceptional to a person who has never left London and are nice to anyone. But "Glorious"? Really?

    Yes really. Go and sit near Hampstead Mixed Pond in summer and you will see the glory of human life.
    In the middle of this debate here , London is not a dump (as somebody said) and it is 'glorious' in many areas I feel but I do think Londoners over estimate their green spaces especially .Hampstead Heath is nice for example but no better than many a country park all over Britain. Maybe living as they do ,Londoners are grateful for any green space

    As I have already said, try Epping Forest – more than 6,000 acres of ancient woodland. A truly beautiful expanse.
  • Nick Binns ‏@HowfenClaret 1m

    Ed Balls: "They took a penny off a pint of beer - you've got to drink one hundred pints of beer to save a pound."

    Sounds like Balls is promoting binge drinking...! ; )

    To be fair, its a decent point, and let's face it, how many pubs are even going to bother altering their prices for a penny?

  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 52,121
    BobaFett said:

    BobaFett said:

    @BobaFet

    "LAUGHABLY AND COMPLETELY WRONG."

    Am I? Most the places you mention might be really exceptional to a person who has never left London and are nice to anyone. But "Glorious"? Really?

    Yes really. Go and sit near Hampstead Mixed Pond in summer and you will see the glory of human life.
    In the middle of this debate here , London is not a dump (as somebody said) and it is 'glorious' in many areas I feel but I do think Londoners over estimate their green spaces especially .Hampstead Heath is nice for example but no better than many a country park all over Britain. Maybe living as they do ,Londoners are grateful for any green space

    As I have already said, try Epping Forest – more than 6,000 acres of ancient woodland. A truly beautiful expanse.
    Richmond Park is also nice - they even have deer there!
  • BobaFettBobaFett Posts: 2,789

    Nick Binns ‏@HowfenClaret 1m

    Ed Balls: "They took a penny off a pint of beer - you've got to drink one hundred pints of beer to save a pound."

    Sounds like Balls is promoting binge drinking...! ; )

    To be fair, its a decent point, and let's face it, how many pubs are even going to bother altering their prices for a penny?

    The Beeb did one of those pisspoor public voxpops earlier where some lady said it would save her "lots of money" on a pint.

    It reminded me of that sketch where someone goes to Everything for a Pound and keeps asking the shopkeeper where the price tags have gone.
  • taffystaffys Posts: 9,753
    http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/nhs-organisations-could-put-special-6856156

    Back in labour's back yard, the desperate measures to prevent others noticing the ongoing services meltdown continues....

  • AnorakAnorak Posts: 6,621

    Nick Binns ‏@HowfenClaret 1m

    Ed Balls: "They took a penny off a pint of beer - you've got to drink one hundred pints of beer to save a pound."

    Sounds like Balls is promoting binge drinking...! ; )

    To be fair, its a decent point, and let's face it, how many pubs are even going to bother altering their prices for a penny?
    It will affect the prices of beer in supermarkets, for sure. While it's a penny off beer, it's also NOT a rise with inflation (see 13 years of Labour for that and more). That probably makes it a saving of 3p a pint.

    Weird to hear a Labour politician claiming a tax cut was too small.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 52,121
    London also has over 600 railway stations (of assorted flavours - Underground, main line, DLR, Tramlink) in as many square miles.

  • AnorakAnorak Posts: 6,621
    BobaFett said:


    The Beeb did one of those pisspoor public voxpops earlier ....

    Every time I hear one of those my faith in humanity (not to mention the education system) dies a little more.
  • Anorak said:

    Nick Binns ‏@HowfenClaret 1m

    Ed Balls: "They took a penny off a pint of beer - you've got to drink one hundred pints of beer to save a pound."

    Sounds like Balls is promoting binge drinking...! ; )

    To be fair, its a decent point, and let's face it, how many pubs are even going to bother altering their prices for a penny?
    It will affect the prices of beer in supermarkets, for sure. While it's a penny off beer, it's also NOT a rise with inflation (see 13 years of Labour for that and more). That probably makes it a saving of 3p a pint.

    Weird to hear a Labour politician claiming a tax cut was too small.
    Osborne wasn't bothered about supermarkets, though. He said it'd help pubs. It won't, really, though will it, even at 3p a pint?

  • state_go_awaystate_go_away Posts: 5,818
    edited March 2014

    London also has over 600 railway stations (of assorted flavours - Underground, main line, DLR, Tramlink) in as many square miles.

    I agree with you on London stations - St Pancras and Kings Cross are magnificient , my personal favourite is Marylebone station though but not sure why .

    Why do Londoners need to think EVERYTHING about their city is better than anywhere else even in areas (like green spaces and parks) where it plainly isn't ? Nobody I know moves to London for its parks

    I often hear the quote from people that there is nothing better than London when the sun is shining . But EVERYWHERE looks better when the sun shines FGS
  • glwglw Posts: 9,954
    Anorak said:

    BobaFett said:


    The Beeb did one of those pisspoor public voxpops earlier ....

    Every time I hear one of those my faith in humanity (not to mention the education system) dies a little more.
    I swear that there was one on the radio a few days ago where some of the people questioned were unaware that Scotland was part of the UK. "I thought they already were independent." "Are they part of Britain?"

    Unbelievable.
  • surbitonsurbiton Posts: 13,549
    Anorak said:

    Nick Binns ‏@HowfenClaret 1m

    Ed Balls: "They took a penny off a pint of beer - you've got to drink one hundred pints of beer to save a pound."

    Sounds like Balls is promoting binge drinking...! ; )

    To be fair, its a decent point, and let's face it, how many pubs are even going to bother altering their prices for a penny?
    It will affect the prices of beer in supermarkets, for sure. While it's a penny off beer, it's also NOT a rise with inflation (see 13 years of Labour for that and more). That probably makes it a saving of 3p a pint.

    Weird to hear a Labour politician claiming a tax cut was too small.
    The reason the 1p is taken off is because in the RPI/CPI weightings this 1p has a disproportionate weighting. You might think all spending has the same weighting per £. But it doesn't.

    As a ratio of tax lost to "inflation gain" [ remember many payments / allowances are index-linked ], it is very efficient.
  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 43,046

    Nick Binns ‏@HowfenClaret 1m

    Ed Balls: "They took a penny off a pint of beer - you've got to drink one hundred pints of beer to save a pound."

    Sounds like Balls is promoting binge drinking...! ; )

    To be fair, its a decent point, and let's face it, how many pubs are even going to bother altering their prices for a penny?

    *quick google fu*

    Taking the first of the results for beer drunk in England that = £160m either a) in the hands of the brewers = more profitable = create more jobs = scope for payrises; or b) in the hands of the punters = more (albeit not much more per capita) disposable income.

    London/London parks? Yes def. Amazing. But only if you live in London. If you are outside London then meh.
  • JackWJackW Posts: 14,787
    St Vince of the Cable in a calm, measured and indeed dull fashion holds sway in the HoC. Not flashy or joke laiden he plainly sets out historic economic difficulties, government policy and the way forward. The comparison with Balls is stark.
  • AlastairMeeksAlastairMeeks Posts: 30,340

    BobaFett said:

    BobaFett said:

    @BobaFet

    "LAUGHABLY AND COMPLETELY WRONG."

    Am I? Most the places you mention might be really exceptional to a person who has never left London and are nice to anyone. But "Glorious"? Really?

    Yes really. Go and sit near Hampstead Mixed Pond in summer and you will see the glory of human life.
    I can get that around here. Sherwood Forest at dawn, Bradgate Park at dusk on a Summer evening. Hell, I can hop over my fence and I could be the only person alive in a matter of minutes, just me and a Muntjac, eyeballing each other. There is no way you're telling me a grubby little park in an overcrowded city is better than that.
    I like Bradgate Park.

    But have you ever been to Epping Forest? Entirely isolated in parts, ancient, full of history, and peaceful. And vastly, vastly larger than Bradgate Park.

    Open your mind.

    To what? Londoners are just like Manchester United fans. It's the hubris.

    Londoners have a lot to be hubristic about.
  • SimonStClareSimonStClare Posts: 7,976
    edited March 2014

    Nick Binns ‏@HowfenClaret 1m

    Ed Balls: "They took a penny off a pint of beer - you've got to drink one hundred pints of beer to save a pound."

    Sounds like Balls is promoting binge drinking...! ; )

    To be fair, its a decent point, and let's face it, how many pubs are even going to bother altering their prices for a penny?

    A decent point, really? Ed Balls is reduced to pettiness when no other argument is forth coming imho.

    In 2009 Labour increased Bingo Tax from 15% to 22% and increased duty on Beer by a penny – yesterday Bingo tax and beer duty were reduced – I may be wrong, but I think I can guess which appeals most to those that indulge in such pleasures.



  • surbitonsurbiton Posts: 13,549

    BobaFett said:

    @BobaFet

    "LAUGHABLY AND COMPLETELY WRONG."

    Am I? Most the places you mention might be really exceptional to a person who has never left London and are nice to anyone. But "Glorious"? Really?

    Yes really. Go and sit near Hampstead Mixed Pond in summer and you will see the glory of human life.
    Mr Fett, I can go and sit by the Hammer Pond at Slaugham and see the glory of life.

    London is unique, it always has been and, probably always will be. It is in many ways the living history of our society (through that window stepped Charles I on to the scaffold sort of stuff). However, glorious London ain't. It is in the main a dump.
    London is the thriving, cosmopolitan capital of the world !!

  • BobaFettBobaFett Posts: 2,789

    BobaFett said:

    BobaFett said:

    @BobaFet

    "LAUGHABLY AND COMPLETELY WRONG."

    Am I? Most the places you mention might be really exceptional to a person who has never left London and are nice to anyone. But "Glorious"? Really?

    Yes really. Go and sit near Hampstead Mixed Pond in summer and you will see the glory of human life.
    In the middle of this debate here , London is not a dump (as somebody said) and it is 'glorious' in many areas I feel but I do think Londoners over estimate their green spaces especially .Hampstead Heath is nice for example but no better than many a country park all over Britain. Maybe living as they do ,Londoners are grateful for any green space

    As I have already said, try Epping Forest – more than 6,000 acres of ancient woodland. A truly beautiful expanse.
    Richmond Park is also nice - they even have deer there!
    I sometimes wonder if those that declare London a dump are out of towners who base their view on the fraction of one per cent of the capital that they have experienced – typically within a half-mile radius of Piccadilly Circus.
  • TOPPING said:

    Nick Binns ‏@HowfenClaret 1m

    Ed Balls: "They took a penny off a pint of beer - you've got to drink one hundred pints of beer to save a pound."

    Sounds like Balls is promoting binge drinking...! ; )

    To be fair, its a decent point, and let's face it, how many pubs are even going to bother altering their prices for a penny?

    *quick google fu*

    Taking the first of the results for beer drunk in England that = £160m either a) in the hands of the brewers = more profitable = create more jobs = scope for payrises; or b) in the hands of the punters = more (albeit not much more per capita) disposable income.

    London/London parks? Yes def. Amazing. But only if you live in London. If you are outside London then meh.
    In that respect, that's fair enough, but that moronic poster was telling us the Tories were making it cheaper for us to go for a pint, not making money for multinational drinks companies. You can't have it both ways.
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 43,341
    taffys said:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-26657455

    Fantastic news for the coalition and the North East of England. A train building factory. Making trains. Real ones.

    Excellent news, though it does rather show how far industry has declined in the UK (which is not to criticise the Japanese of course) - it was the British who brought railways to Japan in the first place!
  • NickPalmerNickPalmer Posts: 21,566

    "

    Posters appear to have forgotten Mike Smithson's instruction not to accuse newish posters of being old posters.

    We recently banned a poster who could not adhere to that rule, please don't follow the same route

    Maybe you should stop people multi-accounting. It blatantly obvious what is going on, even to people who only read PB once or twice a day.
    Not to me. Can't really see the point anyway - I suppose you can get X agreeing with himself disguised as Y. but does that impress anyone?

  • BobaFettBobaFett Posts: 2,789
    TOPPING said:

    Nick Binns ‏@HowfenClaret 1m

    Ed Balls: "They took a penny off a pint of beer - you've got to drink one hundred pints of beer to save a pound."

    Sounds like Balls is promoting binge drinking...! ; )

    To be fair, its a decent point, and let's face it, how many pubs are even going to bother altering their prices for a penny?

    *quick google fu*

    Taking the first of the results for beer drunk in England that = £160m either a) in the hands of the brewers = more profitable = create more jobs = scope for payrises; or b) in the hands of the punters = more (albeit not much more per capita) disposable income.

    London/London parks? Yes def. Amazing. But only if you live in London. If you are outside London then meh.
    A friend of mine visited from Huddersfield last summer. We visited Brockwell Park, which was buzzing of a sunny Saturday afternoon with sound systems and barbecues and little impromptu parties. She said: "It's really odd for us to see because in Yorkshire no-one even sits in the park."
  • AnorakAnorak Posts: 6,621

    Anorak said:

    Nick Binns ‏@HowfenClaret 1m

    Ed Balls: "They took a penny off a pint of beer - you've got to drink one hundred pints of beer to save a pound."

    Sounds like Balls is promoting binge drinking...! ; )

    To be fair, its a decent point, and let's face it, how many pubs are even going to bother altering their prices for a penny?
    It will affect the prices of beer in supermarkets, for sure. While it's a penny off beer, it's also NOT a rise with inflation (see 13 years of Labour for that and more). That probably makes it a saving of 3p a pint.

    Weird to hear a Labour politician claiming a tax cut was too small.
    Osborne wasn't bothered about supermarkets, though. He said it'd help pubs. It won't, really, though will it, even at 3p a pint?

    Eh? You started with "it doesn't help people because pubs wont bother changing the price", then moved to "even 3p a pint wont help pubs". One or other has to benefit, and 3p a pint would be another 1% on a pubs margin, which is not to be sniffed at.

    On another topic, I was amused by one of your fire-fighting colleagues in Hampshire. Rescuing a couple trapped upstairs after a post van had crashed into the lower part of their house, the first thing he said was "were you expecting a parcel?".

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2585075/A-not-special-delivery-Royal-Mail-lorry-destroys-home-early-morning-crash.html
  • BobaFettBobaFett Posts: 2,789
    glw said:

    Anorak said:

    BobaFett said:


    The Beeb did one of those pisspoor public voxpops earlier ....

    Every time I hear one of those my faith in humanity (not to mention the education system) dies a little more.
    I swear that there was one on the radio a few days ago where some of the people questioned were unaware that Scotland was part of the UK. "I thought they already were independent." "Are they part of Britain?"

    Unbelievable.
    Groan. Depressing.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 52,937
    Ed Balls missed the best cheap gag with his "100 Pints to Save the Pound" line - which would be to say "admittedly, that is a saving of a pound a week for the Foreign Secretary..."
  • PBModeratorPBModerator Posts: 665

    "

    Posters appear to have forgotten Mike Smithson's instruction not to accuse newish posters of being old posters.

    We recently banned a poster who could not adhere to that rule, please don't follow the same route

    Maybe you should stop people multi-accounting. It blatantly obvious what is going on, even to people who only read PB once or twice a day.
    That already exists automatically via vanilla.

    Multiple accounts are not permitted, only one active account is permissible.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 52,937
    BobaFett said:

    I sometimes wonder if those that declare London a dump are out of towners who base their view on the fraction of one per cent of the capital that they have experienced – typically within a half-mile radius of Piccadilly Circus.

    Most of the areas around London's mainline stations are pretty depressing for those arriving by train too.
  • AnorakAnorak Posts: 6,621
    surbiton said:

    Anorak said:

    Nick Binns ‏@HowfenClaret 1m

    Ed Balls: "They took a penny off a pint of beer - you've got to drink one hundred pints of beer to save a pound."

    Sounds like Balls is promoting binge drinking...! ; )

    To be fair, its a decent point, and let's face it, how many pubs are even going to bother altering their prices for a penny?
    It will affect the prices of beer in supermarkets, for sure. While it's a penny off beer, it's also NOT a rise with inflation (see 13 years of Labour for that and more). That probably makes it a saving of 3p a pint.

    Weird to hear a Labour politician claiming a tax cut was too small.
    The reason the 1p is taken off is because in the RPI/CPI weightings this 1p has a disproportionate weighting. You might think all spending has the same weighting per £. But it doesn't.

    As a ratio of tax lost to "inflation gain" [ remember many payments / allowances are index-linked ], it is very efficient.
    That's a very interesting point.
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