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  • StillWatersStillWaters Posts: 8,243
    Leon said:

    Starmer has been given THIRTY TWO THOUSAND POUNDS to spend on... clothes

    Is that even possible? Once you've got two Savile Row suits and two pairs of Lobbs, you've still got about £20k left

    If you have 5 suits (10 trousers) the rotation pattern means they individually last 12-14 years. Which makes them good value
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,153

    Leon said:

    Starmer has been given THIRTY TWO THOUSAND POUNDS to spend on... clothes

    Is that even possible? Once you've got two Savile Row suits and two pairs of Lobbs, you've still got about £20k left

    If you have 5 suits (10 trousers) the rotation pattern means they individually last 12-14 years. Which makes them good value
    Double trousers is a must.
  • StillWatersStillWaters Posts: 8,243
    Leon said:

    I must have Slow Processing Disorder because I am finding it hard to work out how Sir Sheer Wanker spent £32,000 on clothes

    5 x suits, 10 trousers = £25,000
    5 pairs of Churches = £1,500
    10 shirts = £1,500
    1x great coat = £5,000

    That’s more than £32,000 on the basics.

    but he probably wanted a tux, morning suit and white tie as well.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 50,250
    rcs1000 said:

    Leon said:

    Starmer has been given THIRTY TWO THOUSAND POUNDS to spend on... clothes

    Is that even possible? Once you've got two Savile Row suits and two pairs of Lobbs, you've still got about £20k left

    If you have 5 suits (10 trousers) the rotation pattern means they individually last 12-14 years. Which makes them good value
    Double trousers is a must.
    I’ve out 2 pair of trousers on a suit before doing even vague damage to the jacket. Jacket goes on a hanger at the start of the work day.

    So I had a suit made with 5 pairs of trousers…. Still got it.
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 22,011

    rcs1000 said:

    Hard to disagree with this:


    I disagree with his spelling of exorcise.
    British English spelling is exorcize and he is a Brit (long departed of these shores).
    "Unlike most verbs using the -ise/-ize suffix, exorcise is more commonly spelled with -s- even in American English."
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,153
    edited September 27

    Leon said:

    I must have Slow Processing Disorder because I am finding it hard to work out how Sir Sheer Wanker spent £32,000 on clothes

    5 x suits, 10 trousers = £25,000
    5 pairs of Churches = £1,500
    10 shirts = £1,500
    1x great coat = £5,000

    That’s more than £32,000 on the basics.

    but he probably wanted a tux, morning suit and white tie as well.
    Church's shoes are an absolute bargain, when you consider that they will refresh them for a very reasonable sum. Some of my pairs are 15 years old, and look as good as new.
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 22,011
    rcs1000 said:

    Leon said:

    Starmer has been given THIRTY TWO THOUSAND POUNDS to spend on... clothes

    Is that even possible? Once you've got two Savile Row suits and two pairs of Lobbs, you've still got about £20k left

    If you have 5 suits (10 trousers) the rotation pattern means they individually last 12-14 years. Which makes them good value
    Double trousers is a must.
    Indeed. Keeps your legs nice and warm in winter.
  • Leon said:

    I must have Slow Processing Disorder because I am finding it hard to work out how Sir Sheer Wanker spent £32,000 on clothes

    5 x suits, 10 trousers = £25,000
    5 pairs of Churches = £1,500
    10 shirts = £1,500
    1x great coat = £5,000

    That’s more than £32,000 on the basics.

    but he probably wanted a tux, morning suit and white tie as well.
    If you go to the M&S Outlet at Cheshire Oaks (other brands and locations are available) you could get that full wardrobe for about two zeros fewer on your price tag.

    Happy to help.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,153

    Leon said:

    I must have Slow Processing Disorder because I am finding it hard to work out how Sir Sheer Wanker spent £32,000 on clothes

    5 x suits, 10 trousers = £25,000
    5 pairs of Churches = £1,500
    10 shirts = £1,500
    1x great coat = £5,000

    That’s more than £32,000 on the basics.

    but he probably wanted a tux, morning suit and white tie as well.
    If you go to the M&S Outlet at Cheshire Oaks (other brands and locations are available) you could get that full wardrobe for about two zeros fewer on your price tag.

    Happy to help.
    The reason that the rich were so rich, Vimes reasoned, was because they managed to spend less money. Take boots, for example. He earned thirty-eight dollars a month plus allowances. A really good pair of leather boots cost fifty dollars. But an affordable pair of boots, which were sort of OK for a season or two and then leaked like hell when the cardboard gave out, cost about ten dollars. But the thing was that good boots lasted for years and years. A man who could afford fifty dollars had a pair of boots that’d still be keeping his feet dry in ten years’ time, while the poor man who could only afford cheap boots would have spent a hundred dollars on boots in the same time and would still have wet feet.

    (Practchett blatantly stole the example from Dorothy L Sayers' Murder Must Advertise, but he also put it better)
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 51,625

    Leon said:

    I must have Slow Processing Disorder because I am finding it hard to work out how Sir Sheer Wanker spent £32,000 on clothes

    5 x suits, 10 trousers = £25,000
    5 pairs of Churches = £1,500
    10 shirts = £1,500
    1x great coat = £5,000

    That’s more than £32,000 on the basics.

    but he probably wanted a tux, morning suit and white tie as well.
    As the humble son of a toolmaker he probably suffered terribly with imposter syndrome and needed an expensive wardrobe to compensate.
  • CookieCookie Posts: 13,793
    rcs1000 said:

    carnforth said:

    Leon said:

    Pulpstar said:

    rcs1000 said:

    The Secret Barrister is - of course - completely right:


    He's useful to read on twitter but my god he thinks the sun shines out of British laws arse
    He's almost as insufferable as Jolyon Maugham or Jonathan Portes
    Oh come on, Jolyolyon's on form today:

    https://x.com/JolyonMaugham/status/1839547615911850166
    Actually: I don't disagree with him there.
    I'm amused by his "the rest of us" as if he were an Amazon warehouseman or a supermarket checkout worker. Rather than a KC.
  • mwadamsmwadams Posts: 3,591
    rcs1000 said:

    Hard to disagree with this:


    I still don't understand why the Bushes etc. haven't taken a stand against Trump. It is surely beyond a "Party" issue now.
  • CookieCookie Posts: 13,793
    rcs1000 said:

    Leon said:

    I must have Slow Processing Disorder because I am finding it hard to work out how Sir Sheer Wanker spent £32,000 on clothes

    5 x suits, 10 trousers = £25,000
    5 pairs of Churches = £1,500
    10 shirts = £1,500
    1x great coat = £5,000

    That’s more than £32,000 on the basics.

    but he probably wanted a tux, morning suit and white tie as well.
    If you go to the M&S Outlet at Cheshire Oaks (other brands and locations are available) you could get that full wardrobe for about two zeros fewer on your price tag.

    Happy to help.
    The reason that the rich were so rich, Vimes reasoned, was because they managed to spend less money. Take boots, for example. He earned thirty-eight dollars a month plus allowances. A really good pair of leather boots cost fifty dollars. But an affordable pair of boots, which were sort of OK for a season or two and then leaked like hell when the cardboard gave out, cost about ten dollars. But the thing was that good boots lasted for years and years. A man who could afford fifty dollars had a pair of boots that’d still be keeping his feet dry in ten years’ time, while the poor man who could only afford cheap boots would have spent a hundred dollars on boots in the same time and would still have wet feet.

    (Practchett blatantly stole the example from Dorothy L Sayers' Murder Must Advertise, but he also put it better)
    While that is true of many things, I do not believe it holds true of suits.
    I have never had a pair of trousers last 300 wears. (I havr fairly thick thighs and they wear out where they rub together.)
  • Just listened to the Sky paper review and Zoe Williams of the Guardian is simply not holding back on attacking Starmer and even the cabinet on their freebies and hypocrisy

    I really find it surreal that the Guardian seem to be leading the attack on a labour government and forcefully

    Why ?
  • LeonLeon Posts: 55,277

    Just listened to the Sky paper review and Zoe Williams of the Guardian is simply not holding back on attacking Starmer and even the cabinet on their freebies and hypocrisy

    I really find it surreal that the Guardian seem to be leading the attack on a labour government and forcefully

    Why ?

    Join the dots. Someone is feeling very wronged, and it is personal

    This is a slow motion assassination
  • StillWatersStillWaters Posts: 8,243

    Leon said:

    Who, here, would begrudge the First Lord of the Treasury 100 pairs of silk-cashmere socks at £450 a pair? Fair dos, he has a hard job, this is just petty quibbling now. Fair dos

    It's the politics of envy.

    We saw it when Sunak used his own money to buy expensive fashion choices.
    You mean he has more money than sense?
    More politics of envy.
    Indeed.It’s refreshing that we have a PM and First Lady that look smart on the world stage.

    Labour donor gives a clothing allowance to Labour politicians. So what?
    I thought "there is no money left"...
    You do realise that Labour’s donations
    aren’t taxpayers’ money? I mean if you don’t realise that then you are no different to most
    PBers and 70% of Joe Public TBF.
    I believe that you work in finance

    You will understand there is a reason why compliance bans gifts from people who may benefit from your decisions

  • BartholomewRobertsBartholomewRoberts Posts: 21,971
    edited September 27
    rcs1000 said:

    Leon said:

    I must have Slow Processing Disorder because I am finding it hard to work out how Sir Sheer Wanker spent £32,000 on clothes

    5 x suits, 10 trousers = £25,000
    5 pairs of Churches = £1,500
    10 shirts = £1,500
    1x great coat = £5,000

    That’s more than £32,000 on the basics.

    but he probably wanted a tux, morning suit and white tie as well.
    If you go to the M&S Outlet at Cheshire Oaks (other brands and locations are available) you could get that full wardrobe for about two zeros fewer on your price tag.

    Happy to help.
    The reason that the rich were so rich, Vimes reasoned, was because they managed to spend less money. Take boots, for example. He earned thirty-eight dollars a month plus allowances. A really good pair of leather boots cost fifty dollars. But an affordable pair of boots, which were sort of OK for a season or two and then leaked like hell when the cardboard gave out, cost about ten dollars. But the thing was that good boots lasted for years and years. A man who could afford fifty dollars had a pair of boots that’d still be keeping his feet dry in ten years’ time, while the poor man who could only afford cheap boots would have spent a hundred dollars on boots in the same time and would still have wet feet.

    (Practchett blatantly stole the example from Dorothy L Sayers' Murder Must Advertise, but he also put it better)
    Which is why I suggested M&S and not Primark.

    There's only so much durability that comes from quality and M&S is reasonable quality not cheap tat.

    Buy from Primark and things can fall very rapidly, that is disposable.

    Spending £32k on "basics" is because you can because money is no object, not because its a wise investment.
  • ohnotnowohnotnow Posts: 3,783

    Leon said:

    I must have Slow Processing Disorder because I am finding it hard to work out how Sir Sheer Wanker spent £32,000 on clothes

    5 x suits, 10 trousers = £25,000
    5 pairs of Churches = £1,500
    10 shirts = £1,500
    1x great coat = £5,000

    That’s more than £32,000 on the basics.

    but he probably wanted a tux, morning suit and white tie as well.
    I once spent £20 on a pair of jeans from Primark. My 'big winter coat' is 2nd hand from the 1940s, warm as f**k and cost me £45.

    I realise the PM has to look quite dapper - but even at 10x those costs I find it unfathomable.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 32,553
    Leon said:

    I actually feel sorry for Sir Kir

    I mean who here hasn’t gone into primark for some essentials, bought a couple of pairs of socks, maybe a hoodie, then 400 tee shirts and then seventy three million three thousand two hundred and eight bobble hats, and suddenly realised you’ve overshot your limited £32,000 budget of free money given you by a man who wants nothing in return for it and also insists on you using his penthouse all the time which you then pretend is your own home during lockdown on TV

    That could happen to anyone. Fair dos

    I don't think I've spent 10% of that on clothes/shoes in my entire life.
  • ohnotnowohnotnow Posts: 3,783
    rcs1000 said:

    Leon said:

    Starmer has been given THIRTY TWO THOUSAND POUNDS to spend on... clothes

    Is that even possible? Once you've got two Savile Row suits and two pairs of Lobbs, you've still got about £20k left

    If you have 5 suits (10 trousers) the rotation pattern means they individually last 12-14 years. Which makes them good value
    Double trousers is a must.
    I am so out of the loop I don't even know what 'double trousers' are. Is this a public school thing?
  • CookieCookie Posts: 13,793
    rcs1000 said:

    Leon said:

    I must have Slow Processing Disorder because I am finding it hard to work out how Sir Sheer Wanker spent £32,000 on clothes

    5 x suits, 10 trousers = £25,000
    5 pairs of Churches = £1,500
    10 shirts = £1,500
    1x great coat = £5,000

    That’s more than £32,000 on the basics.

    but he probably wanted a tux, morning suit and white tie as well.
    Church's shoes are an absolute bargain, when you consider that they will refresh them for a very reasonable sum. Some of my pairs are 15 years old, and look as good as new.
    "Some" of my pairs?
    I know I have developed this theme before but a real man needs three pairs of shoes:
    - work/wedding
    - not work
    - gardening
    (Though you can add on as many specialist shoes for specific sports that you need.)

    Admittedly, this is a standard I fail to live up to. But not by much. Dr. Martens serve most purposes. (But even these wear oit morr quickly than you'd expect.)
  • carnforthcarnforth Posts: 4,587

    Leon said:

    I must have Slow Processing Disorder because I am finding it hard to work out how Sir Sheer Wanker spent £32,000 on clothes

    5 x suits, 10 trousers = £25,000
    5 pairs of Churches = £1,500
    10 shirts = £1,500
    1x great coat = £5,000

    That’s more than £32,000 on the basics.

    but he probably wanted a tux, morning suit and white tie as well.
    You may refresh your understanding of the price of churches! Loake 1880s are 5 for 1500 these days.

    Churches are owned by Prada, with all the marketing might and pricing nous that ensures.

    Cheaney and Trickers are points of value.
  • Cookie said:

    rcs1000 said:

    carnforth said:

    Leon said:

    Pulpstar said:

    rcs1000 said:

    The Secret Barrister is - of course - completely right:


    He's useful to read on twitter but my god he thinks the sun shines out of British laws arse
    He's almost as insufferable as Jolyon Maugham or Jonathan Portes
    Oh come on, Jolyolyon's on form today:

    https://x.com/JolyonMaugham/status/1839547615911850166
    Actually: I don't disagree with him there.
    I'm amused by his "the rest of us" as if he were an Amazon warehouseman or a supermarket checkout worker. Rather than a KC.
    Though for this purpose, Jolyon is more like us than he is like them. The gap from a millionaire to a billionaire is proportionately the same as the gap from a millionaire to a thousandaire.

    (Various things follow from this. One is that, if you want to financially motivate people who already have a lot of money, you need a simply enormous sum of cash to do it. I don't know if anyone has done the experiments, but I suspect it's more exponential than linear.

    The other is lifestylegate, if we can call it that. No question that the Starmers are very comfortably off in the grand scheme of things. But let's say they are in the 1 percent; there are bits of the expectation of Prime Ministers that are more the 0.1 percent. Boris had much the same problem, made worse by his shambolic private life.

    None of this goes against the observation that JM is a pompous nitwit a lot of the time.)
  • CookieCookie Posts: 13,793

    Leon said:

    I must have Slow Processing Disorder because I am finding it hard to work out how Sir Sheer Wanker spent £32,000 on clothes

    5 x suits, 10 trousers = £25,000
    5 pairs of Churches = £1,500
    10 shirts = £1,500
    1x great coat = £5,000

    That’s more than £32,000 on the basics.

    but he probably wanted a tux, morning suit and white tie as well.
    As the humble son of a toolmaker he probably suffered terribly with imposter syndrome and needed an expensive wardrobe to compensate.
    I'm sure the judge who sentenced Huw Edwards would sympathise.
  • CookieCookie Posts: 13,793
    ohnotnow said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Leon said:

    Starmer has been given THIRTY TWO THOUSAND POUNDS to spend on... clothes

    Is that even possible? Once you've got two Savile Row suits and two pairs of Lobbs, you've still got about £20k left

    If you have 5 suits (10 trousers) the rotation pattern means they individually last 12-14 years. Which makes them good value
    Double trousers is a must.
    I am so out of the loop I don't even know what 'double trousers' are. Is this a public school thing?
    From the context, my inference is nothing more complicated than 'wearing two pairs of trousers at once'.
  • Leon said:

    Just listened to the Sky paper review and Zoe Williams of the Guardian is simply not holding back on attacking Starmer and even the cabinet on their freebies and hypocrisy

    I really find it surreal that the Guardian seem to be leading the attack on a labour government and forcefully

    Why ?

    Join the dots. Someone is feeling very wronged, and it is personal

    This is a slow motion assassination
    Corbynites dream of ousting Starmer, like the Livingstone coup against Andrew McIntosh at the GLC in 1981?
  • ohnotnowohnotnow Posts: 3,783
    Cookie said:

    ohnotnow said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Leon said:

    Starmer has been given THIRTY TWO THOUSAND POUNDS to spend on... clothes

    Is that even possible? Once you've got two Savile Row suits and two pairs of Lobbs, you've still got about £20k left

    If you have 5 suits (10 trousers) the rotation pattern means they individually last 12-14 years. Which makes them good value
    Double trousers is a must.
    I am so out of the loop I don't even know what 'double trousers' are. Is this a public school thing?
    From the context, my inference is nothing more complicated than 'wearing two pairs of trousers at once'.
    Such extravagance. I'm beginning to feel like I'm an extra on the set of Sir Henry at Rawlinson End who comes to a sticky end due to... the trouser thing.
  • Leon said:

    Just listened to the Sky paper review and Zoe Williams of the Guardian is simply not holding back on attacking Starmer and even the cabinet on their freebies and hypocrisy

    I really find it surreal that the Guardian seem to be leading the attack on a labour government and forcefully

    Why ?

    Join the dots. Someone is feeling very wronged, and it is personal

    This is a slow motion assassination
    Corbynites dream of ousting Starmer, like the Livingstone coup against Andrew McIntosh at the GLC in 1981?
    Or they all send their children to private school?

    Or the prefer it when their parents use their winter fuel allowance to spend January somewere hot and abroad?

    Or it's a proxy for the internal war about trans at Guardian Towers? I forget who is on which side on that one.

    Or it's just lefties doing what they do, which is fighting people who should be allies but disagree with them.
  • StillWatersStillWaters Posts: 8,243

    REALLY dumb Trump dumbassery -

    Idaho Statesman (via Seattle Times) - Does Trump want to turn ‘giant faucet’ to send Columbia River water to CA? What he said

    The Columbia River could be the answer to California’s water problems, former President Donald Trump seemed to say at a news conference near Los Angeles.

    “I’m going to give you more water than almost anyone has,” he said. There would be plenty of water for lawns at big houses in Los Angeles and Beverly Hills, for farmers and to dampen the hills where forest fires burn, he said.

    He started talking about water when he was asked a question about California wildfires raging nearby, an hour into a press conference at one of his golf courses earlier this month.

    “You have millions of gallons of water pouring down from the Northwest, the snow caps and Canada,” he said.

    All it would take is turning “essentially a very large faucet,” he said.

    “It takes one day to turn it, it’s massive,” he said. “It’s as big as a wall, as that building right there behind you.” . . . .

    . . . Canadian news media were not impressed.

    The Columbia River flows from Canada south into Washington, where it is joined by water from the Snake River in Eastern Washington near the Tri-Cities to flow into the Pacific Ocean.

    The Toronto Star said Trump’s promise “touches on deep-seated anxieties about our southern neighbors muscling their way into our water supply.”

    Canada and the United States currently are finalizing a proposal to modernize the 1964 Columbia River Treaty, which has governed hydropower operations and management of flood risks on both sides of the international border. . . .

    SSI - The notion of diverting water from the Columbia River to feed the thirst of California agriculture and development is an old one. AND a surefire way to piss off folks across the Pacific Northwest on both sides of the international border.

    Am hoping that Trump's latest BS is broadcast freely among MAGA-minded farmers & others in eastern Washington, whose indivual livelihoods and regional economy are based on irrigation by water from the . . . wait for it . . . Columbia River.

    I am not a geographer so I am rather confused how this would hurt the Canadians.

    If water flows downstream then how does diverting the water downstream affect what happens upstream? Surely its already
    flowed down before its affected so what difference does it make?

    Sure I'm missing something but could someone please explain that? Water isn't flowing upstream into the Canadian Rockies, its flowing down from there.
    Because water usage is governed by agreement

    Let’s say that the Colorado river is drained dry by Californian lawns. As a result Colorado complains.

    Do you think that the President would put pressure on Canada to extract less water themselves?
  • REALLY dumb Trump dumbassery -

    Idaho Statesman (via Seattle Times) - Does Trump want to turn ‘giant faucet’ to send Columbia River water to CA? What he said

    The Columbia River could be the answer to California’s water problems, former President Donald Trump seemed to say at a news conference near Los Angeles.

    “I’m going to give you more water than almost anyone has,” he said. There would be plenty of water for lawns at big houses in Los Angeles and Beverly Hills, for farmers and to dampen the hills where forest fires burn, he said.

    He started talking about water when he was asked a question about California wildfires raging nearby, an hour into a press conference at one of his golf courses earlier this month.

    “You have millions of gallons of water pouring down from the Northwest, the snow caps and Canada,” he said.

    All it would take is turning “essentially a very large faucet,” he said.

    “It takes one day to turn it, it’s massive,” he said. “It’s as big as a wall, as that building right there behind you.” . . . .

    . . . Canadian news media were not impressed.

    The Columbia River flows from Canada south into Washington, where it is joined by water from the Snake River in Eastern Washington near the Tri-Cities to flow into the Pacific Ocean.

    The Toronto Star said Trump’s promise “touches on deep-seated anxieties about our southern neighbors muscling their way into our water supply.”

    Canada and the United States currently are finalizing a proposal to modernize the 1964 Columbia River Treaty, which has governed hydropower operations and management of flood risks on both sides of the international border. . . .

    SSI - The notion of diverting water from the Columbia River to feed the thirst of California agriculture and development is an old one. AND a surefire way to piss off folks across the Pacific Northwest on both sides of the international border.

    Am hoping that Trump's latest BS is broadcast freely among MAGA-minded farmers & others in eastern Washington, whose indivual livelihoods and regional economy are based on irrigation by water from the . . . wait for it . . . Columbia River.

    I am not a geographer so I am rather confused how this would hurt the Canadians.

    If water flows downstream then how does diverting the water downstream affect what happens upstream? Surely its already
    flowed down before its affected so what difference does it make?

    Sure I'm missing something but could someone please explain that? Water isn't flowing upstream into the Canadian Rockies, its flowing down from there.
    Because water usage is governed by agreement

    Let’s say that the Colorado river is drained dry by Californian lawns. As a result Colorado complains.

    Do you think that the President would put pressure on Canada to extract less water themselves?
    But Canada's upstream so they get first dibs on the water before it flows downstream don't they?

    So isn't it in America's best interests to maintain the agreement, more than Canada's? If America breaks the agreement then nothing stops Canada taking whatever water they want and whatever's left will flow down to California.

    I can understand why Colorado will be pissed off if this happens far more than Canada.
  • Away from politics this is just wonderful from the late Maggie Smith

    https://x.com/feedthedrummer/status/1839659021835338040?t=7i-YyECD7sYjfAw-u8zFkQ&s=19
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 52,561
    edited September 27
    algarkirk said:

    Leon said:

    I actually feel sorry for Sir Kir

    I mean who here hasn’t gone into primark for some essentials, bought a couple of pairs of socks, maybe a hoodie, then 400 tee shirts and then seventy three million three thousand two hundred and eight bobble hats, and suddenly realised you’ve overshot your limited £32,000 budget of free money given you by a man who wants nothing in return for it and also insists on you using his penthouse all the time which you then pretend is your own home during lockdown on TV

    That could happen to anyone. Fair dos

    Two points. One is that primark is not really the best place for bobble hats. I recommend a particular very provincial northern Christmas bazaar where ladies who knit them for seafarers (it's the seafaring equivalent of knitting blanket squares for randomers, or soft toys for Great Ormond Street) sell their surplus in a good cause. I buy several at a time in order to fund the (excellent non seafaring) cause of the bazaar, and then throw them away. All parties satisfied.

    If you are in mid pacific and spot a Bangladeshi seafarer wearing a bobble hat with a unicorn knitted into it, you will know where it came from. I sometimes idly wonder what seafarer support organisations do with several million of them.

    Secondly, the freebie stuff when combined with the WFA thing just resonates slightly with that memorable sound of corks popping and tinkling glasses drowning out the lonelier sound of the Duke of Edinburgh's funeral. And our beloved queen looking like every widow in Covid times and being loyal and exemplary and brave. Which did for Boris and co. It won't quite do.
    There is a tribe in northern Guinea Bissau that wears red bobble hats. Bizarre but true. Seen them myself.

    I reckon I could source 73,003,208 bobble hats there at a GREAT price. Third poorest country on Earth. Must be able to gouge them on price, surely?
  • carnforthcarnforth Posts: 4,587

    algarkirk said:

    Leon said:

    I actually feel sorry for Sir Kir

    I mean who here hasn’t gone into primark for some essentials, bought a couple of pairs of socks, maybe a hoodie, then 400 tee shirts and then seventy three million three thousand two hundred and eight bobble hats, and suddenly realised you’ve overshot your limited £32,000 budget of free money given you by a man who wants nothing in return for it and also insists on you using his penthouse all the time which you then pretend is your own home during lockdown on TV

    That could happen to anyone. Fair dos

    Two points. One is that primark is not really the best place for bobble hats. I recommend a particular very provincial northern Christmas bazaar where ladies who knit them for seafarers (it's the seafaring equivalent of knitting blanket squares for randomers, or soft toys for Great Ormond Street) sell their surplus in a good cause. I buy several at a time in order to fund the (excellent non seafaring) cause of the bazaar, and then throw them away. All parties satisfied.

    If you are in mid pacific and spot a Bangladeshi seafarer wearing a bobble hat with a unicorn knitted into it, you will know where it came from. I sometimes idly wonder what seafarer support organisations do with several million of them.

    Secondly, the freebie stuff when combined with the WFA thing just resonates slightly with that memorable sound of corks popping and tinkling glasses drowning out the lonelier sound of the Duke of Edinburgh's funeral. And our beloved queen looking like every widow in Covid times and being loyal and exemplary and brave. Which did for Boris and co. It won't quite do.
    There is a tribe in northern Guinea Bissau that wears red bobble hats. Bizarre but true. Seen them myself.

    I reckon I could source 73,003,208 bobble hats there at a GREAT price.
    Get in the VIP lane!
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 81,991
    edited September 27
    If Israel have got the Grand Wizard of Hezbollah, its going to properly on like Fat Pat's thong.

    Given he only does zoom, i just presumed like Hamas leadership that he was safely elsewhere in Syria or Iran.
  • Just listened to the Sky paper review and Zoe Williams of the Guardian is simply not holding back on attacking Starmer and even the cabinet on their freebies and hypocrisy

    I really find it surreal that the Guardian seem to be leading the attack on a labour government and forcefully

    Why ?

    It is interesting.

    I see Mr Forensic Lawyer messed up his paperwork again.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 55,277
    carnforth said:

    Leon said:

    I must have Slow Processing Disorder because I am finding it hard to work out how Sir Sheer Wanker spent £32,000 on clothes

    5 x suits, 10 trousers = £25,000
    5 pairs of Churches = £1,500
    10 shirts = £1,500
    1x great coat = £5,000

    That’s more than £32,000 on the basics.

    but he probably wanted a tux, morning suit and white tie as well.
    You may refresh your understanding of the price of churches! Loake 1880s are 5 for 1500 these days.

    Churches are owned by Prada, with all the marketing might and pricing nous that ensures.

    Cheaney and Trickers are points of value.
    Yes. My one clothing indulgence is Jermyn Street shoes. You can skimp on everything else, and I seldom need a suit, but shoes? Yes

    Great shoes are now easily north of £400. Ouch
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 22,075

    Leon said:

    I must have Slow Processing Disorder because I am finding it hard to work out how Sir Sheer Wanker spent £32,000 on clothes

    5 x suits, 10 trousers = £25,000
    5 pairs of Churches = £1,500
    10 shirts = £1,500
    1x great coat = £5,000

    That’s more than £32,000 on the basics.

    but he probably wanted a tux, morning suit and white tie as well.
    If you go to the M&S Outlet at Cheshire Oaks (other brands and locations are available) you could get that full wardrobe for about two zeros fewer on your price tag.

    Happy to help.
    The M&S Suit section usually have a personal shopper (look at the badges), so if you can gain the attention of one they can help you choose the best fitting one. They come in from less than £200

    Clarks shoe shops are common and can supply you with footwear for any occasion. If you want to push the boat out, go to Timpsons they will tell you which brands can be easily repaired and then get a pair. Again, much less than £200.

    Pffft
  • CookieCookie Posts: 13,793

    Away from politics this is just wonderful from the late Maggie Smith

    https://x.com/feedthedrummer/status/1839659021835338040?t=7i-YyECD7sYjfAw-u8zFkQ&s=19

    I've only just realised Maggie Smith <> Liz Smith. I've been wondering why no-one's mentioned her role in The Royle Family.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 52,561

    algarkirk said:

    Leon said:

    I actually feel sorry for Sir Kir

    I mean who here hasn’t gone into primark for some essentials, bought a couple of pairs of socks, maybe a hoodie, then 400 tee shirts and then seventy three million three thousand two hundred and eight bobble hats, and suddenly realised you’ve overshot your limited £32,000 budget of free money given you by a man who wants nothing in return for it and also insists on you using his penthouse all the time which you then pretend is your own home during lockdown on TV

    That could happen to anyone. Fair dos

    Two points. One is that primark is not really the best place for bobble hats. I recommend a particular very provincial northern Christmas bazaar where ladies who knit them for seafarers (it's the seafaring equivalent of knitting blanket squares for randomers, or soft toys for Great Ormond Street) sell their surplus in a good cause. I buy several at a time in order to fund the (excellent non seafaring) cause of the bazaar, and then throw them away. All parties satisfied.

    If you are in mid pacific and spot a Bangladeshi seafarer wearing a bobble hat with a unicorn knitted into it, you will know where it came from. I sometimes idly wonder what seafarer support organisations do with several million of them.

    Secondly, the freebie stuff when combined with the WFA thing just resonates slightly with that memorable sound of corks popping and tinkling glasses drowning out the lonelier sound of the Duke of Edinburgh's funeral. And our beloved queen looking like every widow in Covid times and being loyal and exemplary and brave. Which did for Boris and co. It won't quite do.
    There is a tribe in northern Guinea Bissau that wears red bobble hats. Bizarre but true. Seen them myself.

    I reckon I could source 73,003,208 bobble hats there at a GREAT price. Third poorest country on Earth. Must be able to gouge them on price, surely?
    Image of former President Kumba Yala of Guinea Bissau, modelling said red bobble hat:

    https://www.gettyimages.fi/detail/uutiskuva/this-file-picture-shows-former-and-current-candidate-uutiskuva/89236033
  • Do we think hezabollah might have a leak problem? Israels seems to always know where the senior people are.
  • Do we think hezabollah might have a leak problem? Israels seems to always know where the senior people are.

    Indeed, Mossad have really earned their money's worth in the past month, the successes Israel have had against Hezbollah have been a joy to behold.

    In a dark era, seeing so many defeats for Hezbollah has been quite a bright spark going on.
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 63,033
    edited September 27

    Just listened to the Sky paper review and Zoe Williams of the Guardian is simply not holding back on attacking Starmer and even the cabinet on their freebies and hypocrisy

    I really find it surreal that the Guardian seem to be leading the attack on a labour government and forcefully

    Why ?

    It is interesting.

    I see Mr Forensic Lawyer messed up his paperwork again.
    The SNP have officially written to the Westminster Standards Commissioner and the Independent Adviser on Minister's interests urging them to launch an investigation into gifts and hospitality provided by Lord Waheed Alli to Sir Keir Starmer and other top Labour ministers

    In the letter MP Brendan O' Hara suggested that Labour’s freebies and donations scandal have become Sir Keir’s version of the expenses scandal

    I thought this was inevitable from someone sooner or later
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 50,250
    ohnotnow said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Leon said:

    Starmer has been given THIRTY TWO THOUSAND POUNDS to spend on... clothes

    Is that even possible? Once you've got two Savile Row suits and two pairs of Lobbs, you've still got about £20k left

    If you have 5 suits (10 trousers) the rotation pattern means they individually last 12-14 years. Which makes them good value
    Double trousers is a must.
    I am so out of the loop I don't even know what 'double trousers' are. Is this a public school thing?
    When you buy a suit for work, in the city, the suit jacket usually ends up on the back of chair/hanger at the start of the day.

    So the trousers wear out faster than the jacket.

    So many suits at the higher end, come with the option of more than one pair of trousers.

    I went to the most extreme on this - had a suit made with 5 pairs of trousers. Between that and other suits, I was able to wear a different pair of trousers each day for two weeks.

    The result is that suits I bought a decade ago are still sharp.

    Mind you, work went smart casual. So they are all in moth proof dust jackets now, deep in the wardrobe.

  • CookieCookie Posts: 13,793

    Do we think hezabollah might have a leak problem? Israels seems to always know where the senior people are.

    Mossad's successes in Palestine seem to rely on a bunch of Palestinians who really, really hate Hamas. Which is understandable given little much Hamas appear to care for the Palestinian people, but still remarkably brave. I wonder if the same is true in Lebanon with Hezbollah.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 52,561
    Leon said:

    carnforth said:

    Leon said:

    I must have Slow Processing Disorder because I am finding it hard to work out how Sir Sheer Wanker spent £32,000 on clothes

    5 x suits, 10 trousers = £25,000
    5 pairs of Churches = £1,500
    10 shirts = £1,500
    1x great coat = £5,000

    That’s more than £32,000 on the basics.

    but he probably wanted a tux, morning suit and white tie as well.
    You may refresh your understanding of the price of churches! Loake 1880s are 5 for 1500 these days.

    Churches are owned by Prada, with all the marketing might and pricing nous that ensures.

    Cheaney and Trickers are points of value.
    Yes. My one clothing indulgence is Jermyn Street shoes. You can skimp on everything else, and I seldom need a suit, but shoes? Yes

    Great shoes are now easily north of £400. Ouch
    Fun fact. Terence Stamp was not a lavish man, but his one extravagance was hand-made shoes. And he had a lot.

    Then he made Prescilla, Queen of the Desert. The budget was tiny. He spent the shoot with his feet crammed into ill-fitting camp footwear.

    And at the end of filming, none of his hand-made shoes would fit.

    He told me that story himself. Over dinner. In Cannes.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 50,250

    Do we think hezabollah might have a leak problem? Israels seems to always know where the senior people are.

    The Israelis have hummint in every opponent organisation. Always have.

    They are fucking geniuses at that. And it adds to the fear of them - and paranoia among their enemies.
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 22,075
    mwadams said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Hard to disagree with this:


    I still don't understand why the Bushes etc. haven't taken a stand against Trump. It is surely beyond a "Party" issue now.
    They have: they resigned from the GOP. Dick Chaney was thrown out, and is now campaigning for Kamala.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 55,277

    Leon said:

    carnforth said:

    Leon said:

    I must have Slow Processing Disorder because I am finding it hard to work out how Sir Sheer Wanker spent £32,000 on clothes

    5 x suits, 10 trousers = £25,000
    5 pairs of Churches = £1,500
    10 shirts = £1,500
    1x great coat = £5,000

    That’s more than £32,000 on the basics.

    but he probably wanted a tux, morning suit and white tie as well.
    You may refresh your understanding of the price of churches! Loake 1880s are 5 for 1500 these days.

    Churches are owned by Prada, with all the marketing might and pricing nous that ensures.

    Cheaney and Trickers are points of value.
    Yes. My one clothing indulgence is Jermyn Street shoes. You can skimp on everything else, and I seldom need a suit, but shoes? Yes

    Great shoes are now easily north of £400. Ouch
    Fun fact. Terence Stamp was not a lavish man, but his one extravagance was hand-made shoes. And he had a lot.

    Then he made Prescilla, Queen of the Desert. The budget was tiny. He spent the shoot with his feet crammed into ill-fitting camp footwear.

    And at the end of filming, none of his hand-made shoes would fit.

    He told me that story himself. Over dinner. In Cannes.
    Nice one!

    I have an excellent Cannes story, too. We are past the lagershed....

    Remember a famous husky voiced TV presenter of yore. now of a certain age, but in her 20s dazzlingly beautiful. Really really stunning, 9/10? Yes, her

    I joined her in Cannes many years ago - when she was about 27 - where she was presenting for TV, interviewing the stars. I had nothing much to do but loaf around her luxe suite. But then she got some spare time and we went for a trip to the little islands off Cannes, where..... I fucked her from behind over an altar in a disused monastery (she was quite sub)

    Two hours after THAT I saw her on live TV, not a hair out of place, innocent and freshly made-up, you would never have guessed. Ah, Sigh

    She dumped me for George Clooney. Another true story. It made being dumped a bit easier to bear
  • Do we think hezabollah might have a leak problem? Israels seems to always know where the senior people are.

    The Israelis have hummint in every opponent organisation. Always have.

    They are fucking geniuses at that. And it adds to the fear of them - and paranoia among their enemies.
    Sure....but Hezabollah have been losing top people faster than OpenAI....9 days and if they got the Grand Wizard, that is literally the top 3 levels of command gone.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 52,561
    My biggest extravagance was a Valentino coat I bought in 1980. I was a student and it cost £199. Once I tried it on, I had to buy it. Even though I couldn't remotely afford it.

    Fast forward 44 years. I still wear that coat. It still makes me look a million dollars. It hasn't worn. It hasn't dated.

    Couple of years ago I was getting off the train at Totnes in said coat and a hat I have had damn near as long. A distinguished Indian gentleman was getting off at Totnes. He looked me up and down. "Love the hat. But - oh, that coat!"

    It was Art Malik.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 32,553

    Just listened to the Sky paper review and Zoe Williams of the Guardian is simply not holding back on attacking Starmer and even the cabinet on their freebies and hypocrisy

    I really find it surreal that the Guardian seem to be leading the attack on a labour government and forcefully

    Why ?

    Maybe they're principled, which is refreshing.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 55,277
    Andy_JS said:

    Just listened to the Sky paper review and Zoe Williams of the Guardian is simply not holding back on attacking Starmer and even the cabinet on their freebies and hypocrisy

    I really find it surreal that the Guardian seem to be leading the attack on a labour government and forcefully

    Why ?

    Maybe they're principled, which is refreshing.
    Ahahahah
  • Leon said:

    carnforth said:

    Leon said:

    I must have Slow Processing Disorder because I am finding it hard to work out how Sir Sheer Wanker spent £32,000 on clothes

    5 x suits, 10 trousers = £25,000
    5 pairs of Churches = £1,500
    10 shirts = £1,500
    1x great coat = £5,000

    That’s more than £32,000 on the basics.

    but he probably wanted a tux, morning suit and white tie as well.
    You may refresh your understanding of the price of churches! Loake 1880s are 5 for 1500 these days.

    Churches are owned by Prada, with all the marketing might and pricing nous that ensures.

    Cheaney and Trickers are points of value.
    Yes. My one clothing indulgence is Jermyn Street shoes. You can skimp on everything else, and I seldom need a suit, but shoes? Yes

    Great shoes are now easily north of £400. Ouch
    Fun fact. Terence Stamp was not a lavish man, but his one extravagance was hand-made shoes. And he had a lot.

    Then he made Prescilla, Queen of the Desert. The budget was tiny. He spent the shoot with his feet crammed into ill-fitting camp footwear.

    And at the end of filming, none of his hand-made shoes would fit.

    He told me that story himself. Over dinner. In Cannes.
    I hope he didn't have to kneel before odd fitting shoes.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 52,561
    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    carnforth said:

    Leon said:

    I must have Slow Processing Disorder because I am finding it hard to work out how Sir Sheer Wanker spent £32,000 on clothes

    5 x suits, 10 trousers = £25,000
    5 pairs of Churches = £1,500
    10 shirts = £1,500
    1x great coat = £5,000

    That’s more than £32,000 on the basics.

    but he probably wanted a tux, morning suit and white tie as well.
    You may refresh your understanding of the price of churches! Loake 1880s are 5 for 1500 these days.

    Churches are owned by Prada, with all the marketing might and pricing nous that ensures.

    Cheaney and Trickers are points of value.
    Yes. My one clothing indulgence is Jermyn Street shoes. You can skimp on everything else, and I seldom need a suit, but shoes? Yes

    Great shoes are now easily north of £400. Ouch
    Fun fact. Terence Stamp was not a lavish man, but his one extravagance was hand-made shoes. And he had a lot.

    Then he made Prescilla, Queen of the Desert. The budget was tiny. He spent the shoot with his feet crammed into ill-fitting camp footwear.

    And at the end of filming, none of his hand-made shoes would fit.

    He told me that story himself. Over dinner. In Cannes.
    Nice one!

    I have an excellent Cannes story, too. We are past the lagershed....

    Remember a famous husky voiced TV presenter of yore. now of a certain age, but in her 20s dazzlingly beautiful. Really really stunning, 9/10? Yes, her

    I joined her in Cannes many years ago - when she was about 27 - where she was presenting for TV, interviewing the stars. I had nothing much to do but loaf around her luxe suite. But then she got some spare time and we went for a trip to the little islands off Cannes, where..... I fucked her from behind over an altar in a disused monastery (she was quite sub)

    Two hours after THAT I saw her on live TV, not a hair out of place, innocent and freshly made-up, you would never have guessed. Ah, Sigh

    She dumped me for George Clooney. Another true story. It made being dumped a bit easier to bear
    Bravo! A life well lived...
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 62,714

    ohnotnow said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Leon said:

    Starmer has been given THIRTY TWO THOUSAND POUNDS to spend on... clothes

    Is that even possible? Once you've got two Savile Row suits and two pairs of Lobbs, you've still got about £20k left

    If you have 5 suits (10 trousers) the rotation pattern means they individually last 12-14 years. Which makes them good value
    Double trousers is a must.
    I am so out of the loop I don't even know what 'double trousers' are. Is this a public school thing?
    When you buy a suit for work, in the city, the suit jacket usually ends up on the back of chair/hanger at the start of the day.

    So the trousers wear out faster than the jacket.

    So many suits at the higher end, come with the option of more than one pair of trousers.

    I went to the most extreme on this - had a suit made with 5 pairs of trousers. Between that and other suits, I was able to wear a different pair of trousers each day for two weeks.

    The result is that suits I bought a decade ago are still sharp.

    Mind you, work went smart casual. So they are all in moth proof dust jackets now, deep in the wardrobe.

    And that, gentlemen, is the Whig theory of history for work clothes.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 32,553

    My biggest extravagance was a Valentino coat I bought in 1980. I was a student and it cost £199. Once I tried it on, I had to buy it. Even though I couldn't remotely afford it.

    Fast forward 44 years. I still wear that coat. It still makes me look a million dollars. It hasn't worn. It hasn't dated.

    Couple of years ago I was getting off the train at Totnes in said coat and a hat I have had damn near as long. A distinguished Indian gentleman was getting off at Totnes. He looked me up and down. "Love the hat. But - oh, that coat!"

    It was Art Malik.

    £199 in 1980 would be £830 today.

    https://www.bankofengland.co.uk/monetary-policy/inflation/inflation-calculator
  • LeonLeon Posts: 55,277
    edited September 27

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    carnforth said:

    Leon said:

    I must have Slow Processing Disorder because I am finding it hard to work out how Sir Sheer Wanker spent £32,000 on clothes

    5 x suits, 10 trousers = £25,000
    5 pairs of Churches = £1,500
    10 shirts = £1,500
    1x great coat = £5,000

    That’s more than £32,000 on the basics.

    but he probably wanted a tux, morning suit and white tie as well.
    You may refresh your understanding of the price of churches! Loake 1880s are 5 for 1500 these days.

    Churches are owned by Prada, with all the marketing might and pricing nous that ensures.

    Cheaney and Trickers are points of value.
    Yes. My one clothing indulgence is Jermyn Street shoes. You can skimp on everything else, and I seldom need a suit, but shoes? Yes

    Great shoes are now easily north of £400. Ouch
    Fun fact. Terence Stamp was not a lavish man, but his one extravagance was hand-made shoes. And he had a lot.

    Then he made Prescilla, Queen of the Desert. The budget was tiny. He spent the shoot with his feet crammed into ill-fitting camp footwear.

    And at the end of filming, none of his hand-made shoes would fit.

    He told me that story himself. Over dinner. In Cannes.
    Nice one!

    I have an excellent Cannes story, too. We are past the lagershed....

    Remember a famous husky voiced TV presenter of yore. now of a certain age, but in her 20s dazzlingly beautiful. Really really stunning, 9/10? Yes, her

    I joined her in Cannes many years ago - when she was about 27 - where she was presenting for TV, interviewing the stars. I had nothing much to do but loaf around her luxe suite. But then she got some spare time and we went for a trip to the little islands off Cannes, where..... I fucked her from behind over an altar in a disused monastery (she was quite sub)

    Two hours after THAT I saw her on live TV, not a hair out of place, innocent and freshly made-up, you would never have guessed. Ah, Sigh

    She dumped me for George Clooney. Another true story. It made being dumped a bit easier to bear
    Bravo! A life well lived...
    It is quite the story. Going in the memoirs

    I am trying to work out where it was (the memory only occasionally returns, I have a lot of anecdotes). It must have been one of these two islands

    https://www.cannes.com/en/boating-beaches/the-lerins-islands.html

    One has a functioning monastery, but this place was a semi-ruin, otherwise it would have been impossible to lift up her skimpy dress and fuck her over the altar, practically speaking. But I remember we were quick, rough and urgent, so people were nearby...... So maybe it is the OTHER island?

    Maybe there is a plaque there, now. I should go check
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 32,553
    edited September 27

    Do we think hezabollah might have a leak problem? Israels seems to always know where the senior people are.

    The Israelis have hummint in every opponent organisation. Always have.

    They are fucking geniuses at that. And it adds to the fear of them - and paranoia among their enemies.
    The obvious question is do Hezbullah have anyone in Israeli intelligence? Probably not. That's the difference.
  • Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    carnforth said:

    Leon said:

    I must have Slow Processing Disorder because I am finding it hard to work out how Sir Sheer Wanker spent £32,000 on clothes

    5 x suits, 10 trousers = £25,000
    5 pairs of Churches = £1,500
    10 shirts = £1,500
    1x great coat = £5,000

    That’s more than £32,000 on the basics.

    but he probably wanted a tux, morning suit and white tie as well.
    You may refresh your understanding of the price of churches! Loake 1880s are 5 for 1500 these days.

    Churches are owned by Prada, with all the marketing might and pricing nous that ensures.

    Cheaney and Trickers are points of value.
    Yes. My one clothing indulgence is Jermyn Street shoes. You can skimp on everything else, and I seldom need a suit, but shoes? Yes

    Great shoes are now easily north of £400. Ouch
    Fun fact. Terence Stamp was not a lavish man, but his one extravagance was hand-made shoes. And he had a lot.

    Then he made Prescilla, Queen of the Desert. The budget was tiny. He spent the shoot with his feet crammed into ill-fitting camp footwear.

    And at the end of filming, none of his hand-made shoes would fit.

    He told me that story himself. Over dinner. In Cannes.
    Nice one!

    I have an excellent Cannes story, too. We are past the lagershed....

    Remember a famous husky voiced TV presenter of yore. now of a certain age, but in her 20s dazzlingly beautiful. Really really stunning, 9/10? Yes, her

    I joined her in Cannes many years ago - when she was about 27 - where she was presenting for TV, interviewing the stars. I had nothing much to do but loaf around her luxe suite. But then she got some spare time and we went for a trip to the little islands off Cannes, where..... I fucked her from behind over an altar in a disused monastery (she was quite sub)

    Two hours after THAT I saw her on live TV, not a hair out of place, innocent and freshly made-up, you would never have guessed. Ah, Sigh

    She dumped me for George Clooney. Another true story. It made being dumped a bit easier to bear
    Bravo! A life well lived...
    It is quite the story. Going in the memoirs

    I am trying to work out where it was (the memory only occasionally returns, I have a lot of anecdotes). It must have been one of these two islands

    https://www.cannes.com/en/boating-beaches/the-lerins-islands.html

    One has a functioning monastery, but this place was a semi-ruin, otherwise it would have been impossible to lift up her skimpy dress and fuck her over the altar, practically speaking. But I remember we were quick, rough and urgent, so people were nearby...... So maybe it is the OTHER island?

    Maybe there is a plaque there, now. I should go check
    A blue one, presumably.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 122,921
    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    carnforth said:

    Leon said:

    I must have Slow Processing Disorder because I am finding it hard to work out how Sir Sheer Wanker spent £32,000 on clothes

    5 x suits, 10 trousers = £25,000
    5 pairs of Churches = £1,500
    10 shirts = £1,500
    1x great coat = £5,000

    That’s more than £32,000 on the basics.

    but he probably wanted a tux, morning suit and white tie as well.
    You may refresh your understanding of the price of churches! Loake 1880s are 5 for 1500 these days.

    Churches are owned by Prada, with all the marketing might and pricing nous that ensures.

    Cheaney and Trickers are points of value.
    Yes. My one clothing indulgence is Jermyn Street shoes. You can skimp on everything else, and I seldom need a suit, but shoes? Yes

    Great shoes are now easily north of £400. Ouch
    Fun fact. Terence Stamp was not a lavish man, but his one extravagance was hand-made shoes. And he had a lot.

    Then he made Prescilla, Queen of the Desert. The budget was tiny. He spent the shoot with his feet crammed into ill-fitting camp footwear.

    And at the end of filming, none of his hand-made shoes would fit.

    He told me that story himself. Over dinner. In Cannes.
    Nice one!

    I have an excellent Cannes story, too. We are past the lagershed....

    Remember a famous husky voiced TV presenter of yore. now of a certain age, but in her 20s dazzlingly beautiful. Really really stunning, 9/10? Yes, her

    I joined her in Cannes many years ago - when she was about 27 - where she was presenting for TV, interviewing the stars. I had nothing much to do but loaf around her luxe suite. But then she got some spare time and we went for a trip to the little islands off Cannes, where..... I fucked her from behind over an altar in a disused monastery (she was quite sub)

    Two hours after THAT I saw her on live TV, not a hair out of place, innocent and freshly made-up, you would never have guessed. Ah, Sigh

    She dumped me for George Clooney. Another true story. It made being dumped a bit easier to bear
    I hope you said 3 Hail Marys after that?
  • LeonLeon Posts: 55,277

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    carnforth said:

    Leon said:

    I must have Slow Processing Disorder because I am finding it hard to work out how Sir Sheer Wanker spent £32,000 on clothes

    5 x suits, 10 trousers = £25,000
    5 pairs of Churches = £1,500
    10 shirts = £1,500
    1x great coat = £5,000

    That’s more than £32,000 on the basics.

    but he probably wanted a tux, morning suit and white tie as well.
    You may refresh your understanding of the price of churches! Loake 1880s are 5 for 1500 these days.

    Churches are owned by Prada, with all the marketing might and pricing nous that ensures.

    Cheaney and Trickers are points of value.
    Yes. My one clothing indulgence is Jermyn Street shoes. You can skimp on everything else, and I seldom need a suit, but shoes? Yes

    Great shoes are now easily north of £400. Ouch
    Fun fact. Terence Stamp was not a lavish man, but his one extravagance was hand-made shoes. And he had a lot.

    Then he made Prescilla, Queen of the Desert. The budget was tiny. He spent the shoot with his feet crammed into ill-fitting camp footwear.

    And at the end of filming, none of his hand-made shoes would fit.

    He told me that story himself. Over dinner. In Cannes.
    Nice one!

    I have an excellent Cannes story, too. We are past the lagershed....

    Remember a famous husky voiced TV presenter of yore. now of a certain age, but in her 20s dazzlingly beautiful. Really really stunning, 9/10? Yes, her

    I joined her in Cannes many years ago - when she was about 27 - where she was presenting for TV, interviewing the stars. I had nothing much to do but loaf around her luxe suite. But then she got some spare time and we went for a trip to the little islands off Cannes, where..... I fucked her from behind over an altar in a disused monastery (she was quite sub)

    Two hours after THAT I saw her on live TV, not a hair out of place, innocent and freshly made-up, you would never have guessed. Ah, Sigh

    She dumped me for George Clooney. Another true story. It made being dumped a bit easier to bear
    Bravo! A life well lived...
    It is quite the story. Going in the memoirs

    I am trying to work out where it was (the memory only occasionally returns, I have a lot of anecdotes). It must have been one of these two islands

    https://www.cannes.com/en/boating-beaches/the-lerins-islands.html

    One has a functioning monastery, but this place was a semi-ruin, otherwise it would have been impossible to lift up her skimpy dress and fuck her over the altar, practically speaking. But I remember we were quick, rough and urgent, so people were nearby...... So maybe it is the OTHER island?

    Maybe there is a plaque there, now. I should go check
    A blue one, presumably.
    I might offer tours. "Unusual places where I fucked really hot women". There are a few standouts - a famous mountain in Bavaria, behind some bins in Palermo, on a sacred cliff in Oman - but it could be construed as a tad narcissistic or in bad taste? Need feedback
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 52,561
    Andy_JS said:

    My biggest extravagance was a Valentino coat I bought in 1980. I was a student and it cost £199. Once I tried it on, I had to buy it. Even though I couldn't remotely afford it.

    Fast forward 44 years. I still wear that coat. It still makes me look a million dollars. It hasn't worn. It hasn't dated.

    Couple of years ago I was getting off the train at Totnes in said coat and a hat I have had damn near as long. A distinguished Indian gentleman was getting off at Totnes. He looked me up and down. "Love the hat. But - oh, that coat!"

    It was Art Malik.

    £199 in 1980 would be £830 today.

    https://www.bankofengland.co.uk/monetary-policy/inflation/inflation-calculator
    Would happily pay it. If I was still wearing it with aplomb - 44 years later. Aged 108!
  • LeonLeon Posts: 55,277
    NEVSKY PROSPEKT
  • Jim_MillerJim_Miller Posts: 2,998
    rcs1000 may find these examples of US gvoernent "failures" in building power plants instructive:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Coulee_Dam
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tennessee_Valley_Authority

    There were similar "failures" in distribution: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rural_Electrification_Act
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 81,991
    edited September 27
    Andy_JS said:

    Do we think hezabollah might have a leak problem? Israels seems to always know where the senior people are.

    The Israelis have hummint in every opponent organisation. Always have.

    They are fucking geniuses at that. And it adds to the fear of them - and paranoia among their enemies.
    The obvious question is do Hezbullah have anyone in Israeli intelligence? Probably not. That's the difference.
    One of the interesting advantages Mossad has many Jews moved to Israel come from very disparate backgrounds, so they can easily embed themselves in many other countries / cultures, and the fact they moved to Israel in the first place makes it highly likely they are fully onboard the zionist project.
  • Jim_MillerJim_Miller Posts: 2,998
    For some perspective, here is -- as far as I know -- a rough summary of the rules governing gifts to American presidents: https://www.everycrsreport.com/reports/R42662.html

    It's my impression, from discussions here, that the rules for UK prime ministers are somewhat loser.
  • Jim_MillerJim_Miller Posts: 2,998
    IanB2 - Glad to hear that you and the dog are OK, at least for now.

    (For those unfamiliar with the route: Interstate 40: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interstate_40 Even-numbered insterstates run mosly east and west, odd-numbered mostly south and north.)
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 49,860
    edited September 27
    CNN on the fate awaiting poor Asheville, the best town in all of the USA:

    https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/27/us/video/asheville-north-carolina-flooding-helene-rosales-cnc-digvid

    People living in lower lying areas are being advised to write their name and date of birth on their leg with marker pen.
  • rcs1000 said:

    Hard to disagree with this:


    I disagree with his spelling of exorcise.
    British English spelling is exorcize and he is a Brit (long departed of these shores).
    So how are exorcizm and exorcizt not words?
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 32,553

    IanB2 - Glad to hear that you and the dog are OK, at least for now.

    (For those unfamiliar with the route: Interstate 40: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interstate_40 Even-numbered insterstates run mosly east and west, odd-numbered mostly south and north.)

    What I find interesting is that Americans pronounce "route" the British way when you're talking about Route 66, but not otherwise.
  • IanB2 - Glad to hear that you and the dog are OK, at least for now.

    (For those unfamiliar with the route: Interstate 40: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interstate_40 Even-numbered insterstates run mosly east and west, odd-numbered mostly south and north.)

    Years ago I flew to Atlanta, where it was 100°F, and immediately started up Route 75 to Chattanooga. At the top of the pass we hit a rainstorm so severe I had to pull off the road for half an hour and wait it out. And this was just an average summer storm, not even dignified by a girl's name. It can get pretty hairy up there even in normal times.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 55,277
    I rarely read novels. Professional deformation. But, my god, “Lincoln in the Bardo” - Booker Prizewinner 2017 - is just so obviously mediocre. Not bad, as such. But like a shoddy chunk of Ulysses that Joyce cast aside. So: really quite poor
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