That recording of Jan 6th is indeed brutal. But it is not new. How can anyone support Trump after that, let alone nearly 45% of Americans?
I genuinely find it bewildering. How can any elected official of any part of the party think this is ok?
Many Americans see a very different picture of events, they’re fed a stream of propaganda on Fox News etc. They see a different reality, they’re told lies. They’re in a Facebook bubble where they believe that Harris slept her way to the top, lies about her ethnicity and her family, and is a communist. They’ve absorbed a message that the country is in a crisis because of immigrants and anyone who isn’t white.
These beliefs don’t spontaneously emerge. They are rehearsed, over and over again, by traditional and social media on the right.
Vice President Harris: As a part of his Project 2025 agenda, Trump and his allies would limit access to birth control, ban medication abortion, and enact a nationwide abortion ban. Simply put, they are out of their minds https://x.com/KamalaHQ/status/1826818501165633806
That recording of Jan 6th is indeed brutal. But it is not new. How can anyone support Trump after that, let alone nearly 45% of Americans?
I genuinely find it bewildering. How can any elected official of any part of the party think this is ok?
Many Americans see a very different picture of events, they’re fed a stream of propaganda on Fox News etc. They see a different reality, they’re told lies. They’re in a Facebook bubble where they believe that Harris slept her way to the top, lies about her ethnicity and her family, and is a communist. They’ve absorbed a message that the country is in a crisis because of immigrants and anyone who isn’t white.
These beliefs don’t spontaneously emerge. They are rehearsed, over and over again, by traditional and social media on the right.
That recording of Jan 6th is indeed brutal. But it is not new. How can anyone support Trump after that, let alone nearly 45% of Americans?
I genuinely find it bewildering. How can any elected official of any part of the party think this is ok?
Many Americans see a very different picture of events, they’re fed a stream of propaganda on Fox News etc. They see a different reality, they’re told lies. They’re in a Facebook bubble where they believe that Harris slept her way to the top, lies about her ethnicity and her family, and is a communist. They’ve absorbed a message that the country is in a crisis because of immigrants and anyone who isn’t white.
These beliefs don’t spontaneously emerge. They are rehearsed, over and over again, by traditional and social media on the right.
It doesn't take much time (3-6 months say) for complete bullshit to become facts if all you hear is the complete bullshit all the time.
And these people have only heard complete bullshit for the past 8 years...
That recording of Jan 6th is indeed brutal. But it is not new. How can anyone support Trump after that, let alone nearly 45% of Americans?
I genuinely find it bewildering. How can any elected official of any part of the party think this is ok?
Many Americans see a very different picture of events, they’re fed a stream of propaganda on Fox News etc. They see a different reality, they’re told lies. They’re in a Facebook bubble where they believe that Harris slept her way to the top, lies about her ethnicity and her family, and is a communist. They’ve absorbed a message that the country is in a crisis because of immigrants and anyone who isn’t white.
These beliefs don’t spontaneously emerge. They are rehearsed, over and over again, by traditional and social media on the right.
It's why we should close down GB News.
Prevention is better than cure.
Well, I'm sure those five or six people watching it might be swayed into nonsensical conspiracy theories where Rees-Mogg is intelligent and Truss is sane, but I'm not really sure that's not going to make much difference to our country as a whole.
Fox News is dangerous because it has reach. GB News does not.
Vice President Harris: As a part of his Project 2025 agenda, Trump and his allies would limit access to birth control, ban medication abortion, and enact a nationwide abortion ban. Simply put, they are out of their minds https://x.com/KamalaHQ/status/1826818501165633806
Is this true? I thought Trump was just letting the states do their own thing.
Vice President Harris: As a part of his Project 2025 agenda, Trump and his allies would limit access to birth control, ban medication abortion, and enact a nationwide abortion ban. Simply put, they are out of their minds https://x.com/KamalaHQ/status/1826818501165633806
Is this true? I thought Trump was just letting the states do their own thing.
That recording of Jan 6th is indeed brutal. But it is not new. How can anyone support Trump after that, let alone nearly 45% of Americans?
I genuinely find it bewildering. How can any elected official of any part of the party think this is ok?
Many Americans see a very different picture of events, they’re fed a stream of propaganda on Fox News etc. They see a different reality, they’re told lies. They’re in a Facebook bubble where they believe that Harris slept her way to the top, lies about her ethnicity and her family, and is a communist. They’ve absorbed a message that the country is in a crisis because of immigrants and anyone who isn’t white.
These beliefs don’t spontaneously emerge. They are rehearsed, over and over again, by traditional and social media on the right.
It's why we should close down GB News.
Prevention is better than cure.
What calumnies are you alleging GBNews have been guilty of?
That recording of Jan 6th is indeed brutal. But it is not new. How can anyone support Trump after that, let alone nearly 45% of Americans?
I genuinely find it bewildering. How can any elected official of any part of the party think this is ok?
Many Americans see a very different picture of events, they’re fed a stream of propaganda on Fox News etc. They see a different reality, they’re told lies. They’re in a Facebook bubble where they believe that Harris slept her way to the top, lies about her ethnicity and her family, and is a communist. They’ve absorbed a message that the country is in a crisis because of immigrants and anyone who isn’t white.
These beliefs don’t spontaneously emerge. They are rehearsed, over and over again, by traditional and social media on the right.
Vice President Harris: As a part of his Project 2025 agenda, Trump and his allies would limit access to birth control, ban medication abortion, and enact a nationwide abortion ban. Simply put, they are out of their minds https://x.com/KamalaHQ/status/1826818501165633806
Is this true? I thought Trump was just letting the states do their own thing.
Project 2025 has a different approach:
Project 2025 wouldn’t ban abortion outright, but would curtail access
The Harris campaign shared a graphic on X that claimed “Trump’s Project 2025 plan for workers” would “go after birth control and ban abortion nationwide.”
The plan doesn’t call to ban abortion nationwide, though its recommendations could curtail some contraceptives and limit abortion access.
What’s known about Trump’s abortion agenda neither lines up with Harris’ description nor Project 2025’s wish list.
Project 2025 says the Department of Health and Human Services Department should “return to being known as the Department of Life by explicitly rejecting the notion that abortion is health care..."
The plan proposes withholding federal money from states that don’t report to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention how many abortions take place within their borders. The plan also would prohibit abortion providers, such as Planned Parenthood, from receiving Medicaid funds. It also calls for the Department of Health and Human Services to ensure that the training of medical professionals, including doctors and nurses, omits abortion training.
The document says some forms of emergency contraception — particularly Ella, a pill that can be taken within five days of unprotected sex to prevent pregnancy — should be excluded from no-cost coverage. The Affordable Care Act requires most private health insurers to cover recommended preventive services, which involves a range of birth control methods, including emergency contraception.
Trump has recently said states should decide abortion regulations and that he wouldn’t block access to contraceptives. Trump said during his June 27 debate with Biden that he wouldn’t ban mifepristone after the Supreme Court “approved” it. But the court rejected the lawsuit based on standing, not the case’s merits. He has not weighed in on the Comstock Act or said whether he supports it being used to block abortion medication, or other kinds of abortions. https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/fact-checking-warnings-from-democrats-about-project-2025-and-donald-trump
This would in practice probably make abortions illegal because the medical providers wouldn't be able to survive financially given the labyrinthine nature of US healthcare financing, leaving only backstreet abortionists. Is that a ban? No. Is it a distinction without a difference? I would say so.
Is this Trump's agenda? Not officially. He has, in fact, verbally tried to distance himself from it.
But, it was written in co-operation with JD Vance whom Trump tapped up as his running mate *after* it was published.
It is reasonable, especially with a notorious and fluent liar like Trump, to consider his actions not his words. If he is saying that he doesn't agree with Project 2025 and yet giving prominent positions to those who support it, we should take seriously the possibility that it will be implemented regardless of what he says.
Vice President Harris: As a part of his Project 2025 agenda, Trump and his allies would limit access to birth control, ban medication abortion, and enact a nationwide abortion ban. Simply put, they are out of their minds https://x.com/KamalaHQ/status/1826818501165633806
Is this true? I thought Trump was just letting the states do their own thing.
Project 2025 runs to 900 pages without an index, if you want to check, although Trump has attempted to distance himself from it.
That recording of Jan 6th is indeed brutal. But it is not new. How can anyone support Trump after that, let alone nearly 45% of Americans?
I genuinely find it bewildering. How can any elected official of any part of the party think this is ok?
Many Americans see a very different picture of events, they’re fed a stream of propaganda on Fox News etc. They see a different reality, they’re told lies. They’re in a Facebook bubble where they believe that Harris slept her way to the top, lies about her ethnicity and her family, and is a communist. They’ve absorbed a message that the country is in a crisis because of immigrants and anyone who isn’t white.
These beliefs don’t spontaneously emerge. They are rehearsed, over and over again, by traditional and social media on the right.
It's why we should close down GB News.
Prevention is better than cure.
What calumnies are you alleging GBNews have been guilty of?
Spreading antivax bollocks for starters such as
GB News broke Ofcom rules with presenter’s Covid vaccine claims
Regulator says Mark Steyn’s use of data to draw misleading conclusions breached content guidelines
Vice President Harris: As a part of his Project 2025 agenda, Trump and his allies would limit access to birth control, ban medication abortion, and enact a nationwide abortion ban. Simply put, they are out of their minds https://x.com/KamalaHQ/status/1826818501165633806
Is this true? I thought Trump was just letting the states do their own thing.
Project 2025 runs to 900 pages without an index, if you want to check, although Trump has attempted to distance himself from it.
Vice President Harris: As a part of his Project 2025 agenda, Trump and his allies would limit access to birth control, ban medication abortion, and enact a nationwide abortion ban. Simply put, they are out of their minds https://x.com/KamalaHQ/status/1826818501165633806
Is this true? I thought Trump was just letting the states do their own thing.
Project 2025 runs to 900 pages without an index, if you want to check, although Trump has attempted to distance himself from it.
Tim Walz: "trust me on this... “When someone takes the time to draw up a playbook, they’re going to use it.”
That recording of Jan 6th is indeed brutal. But it is not new. How can anyone support Trump after that, let alone nearly 45% of Americans?
I genuinely find it bewildering. How can any elected official of any part of the party think this is ok?
Many Americans see a very different picture of events, they’re fed a stream of propaganda on Fox News etc. They see a different reality, they’re told lies. They’re in a Facebook bubble where they believe that Harris slept her way to the top, lies about her ethnicity and her family, and is a communist. They’ve absorbed a message that the country is in a crisis because of immigrants and anyone who isn’t white.
These beliefs don’t spontaneously emerge. They are rehearsed, over and over again, by traditional and social media on the right.
It's why we should close down GB News.
Prevention is better than cure.
What calumnies are you alleging GBNews have been guilty of?
Spreading antivax bollocks for starters such as
GB News broke Ofcom rules with presenter’s Covid vaccine claims
Regulator says Mark Steyn’s use of data to draw misleading conclusions breached content guidelines
Vice President Harris: As a part of his Project 2025 agenda, Trump and his allies would limit access to birth control, ban medication abortion, and enact a nationwide abortion ban. Simply put, they are out of their minds https://x.com/KamalaHQ/status/1826818501165633806
Is this true? I thought Trump was just letting the states do their own thing.
Though Kamala is definitely the least bad option by some way, this exchange shows the uphill struggle they have to persuade (some) voters of this. We are in the age of belief v facts.
Vice President Harris: As a part of his Project 2025 agenda, Trump and his allies would limit access to birth control, ban medication abortion, and enact a nationwide abortion ban. Simply put, they are out of their minds https://x.com/KamalaHQ/status/1826818501165633806
Is this true? I thought Trump was just letting the states do their own thing.
Project 2025 runs to 900 pages without an index, if you want to check, although Trump has attempted to distance himself from it.
Tim Walz: "trust me on this... “When someone takes the time to draw up a playbook, they’re going to use it.”
Though Kamala is definitely the least bad option by some way, this exchange shows the uphill struggle they have to persuade (some) voters of this. We are in the age of belief v facts.
Indeed anyone can post anything on the internet, and people will lap it up if it reenforces their prejudices against the out-group.
Vice President Harris: As a part of his Project 2025 agenda, Trump and his allies would limit access to birth control, ban medication abortion, and enact a nationwide abortion ban. Simply put, they are out of their minds https://x.com/KamalaHQ/status/1826818501165633806
Is this true? I thought Trump was just letting the states do their own thing.
Project 2025 runs to 900 pages without an index, if you want to check, although Trump has attempted to distance himself from it.
Well it's probably true he's never read it - it's more than a page long, for a start.
Though Kamala is definitely the least bad option by some way, this exchange shows the uphill struggle they have to persuade (some) voters of this. We are in the age of belief v facts.
That recording of Jan 6th is indeed brutal. But it is not new. How can anyone support Trump after that, let alone nearly 45% of Americans?
I genuinely find it bewildering. How can any elected official of any part of the party think this is ok?
Many Americans see a very different picture of events, they’re fed a stream of propaganda on Fox News etc. They see a different reality, they’re told lies. They’re in a Facebook bubble where they believe that Harris slept her way to the top, lies about her ethnicity and her family, and is a communist. They’ve absorbed a message that the country is in a crisis because of immigrants and anyone who isn’t white.
These beliefs don’t spontaneously emerge. They are rehearsed, over and over again, by traditional and social media on the right.
It's why we should close down GB News.
Prevention is better than cure.
What calumnies are you alleging GBNews have been guilty of?
Spreading antivax bollocks for starters such as
GB News broke Ofcom rules with presenter’s Covid vaccine claims
Regulator says Mark Steyn’s use of data to draw misleading conclusions breached content guidelines
GB News is an entertainment channel for right wing morons and Farage supporters masquerading as a bona fide news channel.
GB news is a propaganda tool funded by Marshall and Legatum to push their agenda. It's purpose is to create "talking points" that the more credible right wing news outlets can then report on dragging all the other news organisations into discussing these "talking points". If you gave Frank Luntz some truth serum he'd explain it all.
Though Kamala is definitely the least bad option by some way, this exchange shows the uphill struggle they have to persuade (some) voters of this. We are in the age of belief v facts.
Indeed anyone can post anything on the internet, and people will lap it up if it reenforces their prejudices against the out-group.
Though Kamala is definitely the least bad option by some way, this exchange shows the uphill struggle they have to persuade (some) voters of this. We are in the age of belief v facts.
Indeed anyone can post anything on the internet, and people will lap it up if it reenforces their prejudices against the out-group.
Speaking from experience, William?
You can avoid the tendency by not having an out-group and being one with humanity, even Trump supporters.
Though Kamala is definitely the least bad option by some way, this exchange shows the uphill struggle they have to persuade (some) voters of this. We are in the age of belief v facts.
Indeed anyone can post anything on the internet, and people will lap it up if it reenforces their prejudices against the out-group.
Speaking from experience, William?
You can avoid the tendency by not having an out-group and being one with humanity, even Trump supporters.
I try not to be one with humanity. It gets messy and you can't get the stains off the couch.
That recording of Jan 6th is indeed brutal. But it is not new. How can anyone support Trump after that, let alone nearly 45% of Americans?
I genuinely find it bewildering. How can any elected official of any part of the party think this is ok?
Many Americans see a very different picture of events, they’re fed a stream of propaganda on Fox News etc. They see a different reality, they’re told lies. They’re in a Facebook bubble where they believe that Harris slept her way to the top, lies about her ethnicity and her family, and is a communist. They’ve absorbed a message that the country is in a crisis because of immigrants and anyone who isn’t white.
These beliefs don’t spontaneously emerge. They are rehearsed, over and over again, by traditional and social media on the right.
It's why we should close down GB News.
Prevention is better than cure.
What calumnies are you alleging GBNews have been guilty of?
Spreading antivax bollocks for starters such as
GB News broke Ofcom rules with presenter’s Covid vaccine claims
Regulator says Mark Steyn’s use of data to draw misleading conclusions breached content guidelines
GB News is an entertainment channel for right wing morons and Farage supporters masquerading as a bona fide news channel.
GB news is a propaganda tool funded by Marshall and Legatum to push their agenda. It's purpose is to create "talking points" that the more credible right wing news outlets can then report on dragging all the other news organisations into discussing these "talking points". If you gave Frank Luntz some truth serum he'd explain it all.
I wonder if RFK Jr will actually endorse Trump. It would trash RFK's brand, so he'd need to believe: a) that Trump will win b) that Trump will give him an important job
anyway here is his latest video, telling lies about JFK:
"he kept us out of Vietnam... a month before he died he signed national security order 263 ordering all the troops home from Vietnam and 30 days later he was murdered" He even has order 263 on the screen so you can read it ordering the withdrawal of 1000 US military personnel (there were over 16000 in Vietnam at the time - sent there by Kennedy).
Later in the video he criticises Trump for promising in 2016 to release all the documents about JFK's assassination and then changing his mind when he became president. I'm not sure that's someone about to endorse Trump.
Rather relieved. Halfway through a 'do not turn off your computer' update, the power went out. Just came back now, I think everything's ok. Was worried my desktop, which I've only had a few months, might've become a brick.
Mr. Pulpstar, luckily for Miliband, May foolishly copied his price cap nonsense. [I know you know this, but it's worth mentioning for anyone who was unaware].
Though Kamala is definitely the least bad option by some way, this exchange shows the uphill struggle they have to persuade (some) voters of this. We are in the age of belief v facts.
That recording of Jan 6th is indeed brutal. But it is not new. How can anyone support Trump after that, let alone nearly 45% of Americans?
I genuinely find it bewildering. How can any elected official of any part of the party think this is ok?
Many Americans see a very different picture of events, they’re fed a stream of propaganda on Fox News etc. They see a different reality, they’re told lies. They’re in a Facebook bubble where they believe that Harris slept her way to the top, lies about her ethnicity and her family, and is a communist. They’ve absorbed a message that the country is in a crisis because of immigrants and anyone who isn’t white.
These beliefs don’t spontaneously emerge. They are rehearsed, over and over again, by traditional and social media on the right.
It's why we should close down GB News.
Prevention is better than cure.
Also, pre-moderation for all twitter/x posts.
When I click inadvertently on a twitter link nowadays I get a request for my age before it will let me go further. I won't do this, so I have to live my life without Twitter. This has not made it any less happy, and I can recommend it, especially of you don't like giving personal details to a Site with a dubious reputation.
Of course I should be referring to Twitter as X, but I find that difficult because I tend to associate the letter with X ratings which were once used to denote saucy content. Do others react to X in the same way? I must admit that before my de facto ban I used to be startled by the large X that appeared on my screen. It used to make me think momentarily that I had clicked on a porn site by mistake. Imagine my disappointment when I realised it was only Twitter.
It’s a mixed picture as to who RFK Jr takes more votes off.
His GE polling has fallen and he’s currently getting between 3% to 5% on average .
He would have been a bigger factor if Biden had remained as the nominee . I doubt Harris or Trump will be losing too much sleep if he remains in the race .
Mr. Punter, the name change is dumb as hell. Not only does Twitter have high recognition it has retweets, and tweets. Nobody sends 'an X'. Nobody 're-Xs.'
Though Kamala is definitely the least bad option by some way, this exchange shows the uphill struggle they have to persuade (some) voters of this. We are in the age of belief v facts.
Indeed anyone can post anything on the internet, and people will lap it up if it reenforces their prejudices against the out-group.
Speaking from experience, William?
You can avoid the tendency by not having an out-group and being one with humanity, even Trump supporters.
Just teasing, William, as I'm sure you appreciate.
Though Kamala is definitely the least bad option by some way, this exchange shows the uphill struggle they have to persuade (some) voters of this. We are in the age of belief v facts.
Inflation may have fallen but prices have not. What the voters want us for prices to go back down, not to continue rising albeit more slowly. Failure to understand this is a real fault of the political classes
That recording of Jan 6th is indeed brutal. But it is not new. How can anyone support Trump after that, let alone nearly 45% of Americans?
I genuinely find it bewildering. How can any elected official of any part of the party think this is ok?
Many Americans see a very different picture of events, they’re fed a stream of propaganda on Fox News etc. They see a different reality, they’re told lies. They’re in a Facebook bubble where they believe that Harris slept her way to the top, lies about her ethnicity and her family, and is a communist. They’ve absorbed a message that the country is in a crisis because of immigrants and anyone who isn’t white.
These beliefs don’t spontaneously emerge. They are rehearsed, over and over again, by traditional and social media on the right.
It's why we should close down GB News.
Prevention is better than cure.
Also, pre-moderation for all twitter/x posts.
When I click inadvertently on a twitter link nowadays I get a request for my age before it will let me go further. I won't do this, so I have to live my life without Twitter. This has not made it any less happy, and I can recommend it, especially of you don't like giving personal details to a Site with a dubious reputation.
Of course I should be referring to Twitter as X, but I find that difficult because I tend to associate the letter with X ratings which were once used to denote saucy content. Do others react to X in the same way? I must admit that before my de facto ban I used to be startled by the large X that appeared on my screen. It used to make me think momentarily that I had clicked on a porn site by mistake. Imagine my disappointment when I realised it was only Twitter.
X Twitter. XX A woman. XXX Pornography. XXXX A foul Aussie lager.
That recording of Jan 6th is indeed brutal. But it is not new. How can anyone support Trump after that, let alone nearly 45% of Americans?
I genuinely find it bewildering. How can any elected official of any part of the party think this is ok?
Many Americans see a very different picture of events, they’re fed a stream of propaganda on Fox News etc. They see a different reality, they’re told lies. They’re in a Facebook bubble where they believe that Harris slept her way to the top, lies about her ethnicity and her family, and is a communist. They’ve absorbed a message that the country is in a crisis because of immigrants and anyone who isn’t white.
These beliefs don’t spontaneously emerge. They are rehearsed, over and over again, by traditional and social media on the right.
It's why we should close down GB News.
Prevention is better than cure.
Also, pre-moderation for all twitter/x posts.
When I click inadvertently on a twitter link nowadays I get a request for my age before it will let me go further. I won't do this, so I have to live my life without Twitter. This has not made it any less happy, and I can recommend it, especially of you don't like giving personal details to a Site with a dubious reputation.
Of course I should be referring to Twitter as X, but I find that difficult because I tend to associate the letter with X ratings which were once used to denote saucy content. Do others react to X in the same way? I must admit that before my de facto ban I used to be startled by the large X that appeared on my screen. It used to make me think momentarily that I had clicked on a porn site by mistake. Imagine my disappointment when I realised it was only Twitter.
The other day, Musk did a poll on Twitter on who should be the next US president - Trump or Harris. To his credit, he did say it was 'unscientific'. As might be expected from people following Musk (*), Trump won by a massive margin. Which his brainless fanbois are pushing as a sign that Trump is going to win in November.
My first thought was: this is a great way for Musky Baby and Twitter to get detailed information on how you are going to vote, and therefore the sort of advertisements and misinformation to push your way...
(*) I don't follow him, and try not to interact with his account, but for some reason many of his tweets get pushed my way. I wonder if the algorithm is perfect in this regard...
That recording of Jan 6th is indeed brutal. But it is not new. How can anyone support Trump after that, let alone nearly 45% of Americans.
Because violence in general, and political violence in particular, are much more socially acceptable in America than here. Americans are brought up on garbage like Thomas Jefferson's "a little rebellion now and then is a good thing, and as necessary in the political world as storms in the physical" and Patrick Henry's, "If this be treason, make the most of it", and it isn't very far from admiring those sayings to regarding January 6th as a patriotic act.
And, given 30 years of terrorism in Northern Ireland, we can't be as superior as we'd like.
Though Kamala is definitely the least bad option by some way, this exchange shows the uphill struggle they have to persuade (some) voters of this. We are in the age of belief v facts.
Indeed anyone can post anything on the internet, and people will lap it up if it reenforces their prejudices against the out-group.
Recounting a conversation based on the notion that the other party might be persuadable is surely the opposite of putting them in an out-group? Not his fault that the notion was entirely fatuous.
Vice President Harris: As a part of his Project 2025 agenda, Trump and his allies would limit access to birth control, ban medication abortion, and enact a nationwide abortion ban. Simply put, they are out of their minds https://x.com/KamalaHQ/status/1826818501165633806
Is this true? I thought Trump was just letting the states do their own thing.
The various anti-abortion dominated states have engaged in a campaign to attack abortion in *other* states - trying to prosecute women for having a abortion in other states, attacking companies and charities that are involved in reproductive rights in *other* states.
It’s a version of States Rights that is familiar. Down to the demand that other states use their police forces to track down and catch escaped slaves. women who want an abortion.
The people involved in this are often hard core MAGA, friends of Trump and are open about heir desire for a federal abortion ban.
Though Kamala is definitely the least bad option by some way, this exchange shows the uphill struggle they have to persuade (some) voters of this. We are in the age of belief v facts.
Inflation may have fallen but prices have not. What the voters want us for prices to go back down, not to continue rising albeit more slowly. Failure to understand this is a real fault of the political classes
That ain't going to happen. Failure to understand that is a real fault of the pleb classes.
Though Kamala is definitely the least bad option by some way, this exchange shows the uphill struggle they have to persuade (some) voters of this. We are in the age of belief v facts.
Inflation may have fallen but prices have not. What the voters want us for prices to go back down, not to continue rising albeit more slowly. Failure to understand this is a real fault of the political classes
Prices are not going to go down though? Even I understand that as I stare gloomily at my last bit of Brie de Meaux.
Though Kamala is definitely the least bad option by some way, this exchange shows the uphill struggle they have to persuade (some) voters of this. We are in the age of belief v facts.
Inflation may have fallen but prices have not. What the voters want us for prices to go back down, not to continue rising albeit more slowly. Failure to understand this is a real fault of the political classes
On one hand, we saw something similar here with Sunak's taming of inflation. Politicians don't, in general, get credit for it.
On the other, getting prices going down, deflation, tends to get out of hand in a really bad way. It would not be desirable.
Once again, voters want something that doesn't really exist. That's not particularly the fault of voters, but it's also not the fault of politicians. If anyone is culpable, it's the minority who try to get ahead by promising the impossible, and the sort of lickspittle media who amplify them.
That recording of Jan 6th is indeed brutal. But it is not new. How can anyone support Trump after that, let alone nearly 45% of Americans?
I genuinely find it bewildering. How can any elected official of any part of the party think this is ok?
Many Americans see a very different picture of events, they’re fed a stream of propaganda on Fox News etc. They see a different reality, they’re told lies. They’re in a Facebook bubble where they believe that Harris slept her way to the top, lies about her ethnicity and her family, and is a communist. They’ve absorbed a message that the country is in a crisis because of immigrants and anyone who isn’t white.
These beliefs don’t spontaneously emerge. They are rehearsed, over and over again, by traditional and social media on the right.
It's why we should close down GB News.
Prevention is better than cure.
Also, pre-moderation for all twitter/x posts.
When I click inadvertently on a twitter link nowadays I get a request for my age before it will let me go further. I won't do this, so I have to live my life without Twitter. This has not made it any less happy, and I can recommend it, especially of you don't like giving personal details to a Site with a dubious reputation.
Of course I should be referring to Twitter as X, but I find that difficult because I tend to associate the letter with X ratings which were once used to denote saucy content. Do others react to X in the same way? I must admit that before my de facto ban I used to be startled by the large X that appeared on my screen. It used to make me think momentarily that I had clicked on a porn site by mistake. Imagine my disappointment when I realised it was only Twitter.
Though the difference between X and other sites publishing saucy images is increasingly small.
That recording of Jan 6th is indeed brutal. But it is not new. How can anyone support Trump after that, let alone nearly 45% of Americans?
I genuinely find it bewildering. How can any elected official of any part of the party think this is ok?
Many Americans see a very different picture of events, they’re fed a stream of propaganda on Fox News etc. They see a different reality, they’re told lies. They’re in a Facebook bubble where they believe that Harris slept her way to the top, lies about her ethnicity and her family, and is a communist. They’ve absorbed a message that the country is in a crisis because of immigrants and anyone who isn’t white.
These beliefs don’t spontaneously emerge. They are rehearsed, over and over again, by traditional and social media on the right.
It's why we should close down GB News.
Prevention is better than cure.
Also, pre-moderation for all twitter/x posts.
When I click inadvertently on a twitter link nowadays I get a request for my age before it will let me go further. I won't do this, so I have to live my life without Twitter. This has not made it any less happy, and I can recommend it, especially of you don't like giving personal details to a Site with a dubious reputation.
Of course I should be referring to Twitter as X, but I find that difficult because I tend to associate the letter with X ratings which were once used to denote saucy content. Do others react to X in the same way? I must admit that before my de facto ban I used to be startled by the large X that appeared on my screen. It used to make me think momentarily that I had clicked on a porn site by mistake. Imagine my disappointment when I realised it was only Twitter.
That recording of Jan 6th is indeed brutal. But it is not new. How can anyone support Trump after that, let alone nearly 45% of Americans?
I genuinely find it bewildering. How can any elected official of any part of the party think this is ok?
Many Americans see a very different picture of events, they’re fed a stream of propaganda on Fox News etc. They see a different reality, they’re told lies. They’re in a Facebook bubble where they believe that Harris slept her way to the top, lies about her ethnicity and her family, and is a communist. They’ve absorbed a message that the country is in a crisis because of immigrants and anyone who isn’t white.
These beliefs don’t spontaneously emerge. They are rehearsed, over and over again, by traditional and social media on the right.
It's why we should close down GB News.
Prevention is better than cure.
What calumnies are you alleging GBNews have been guilty of?
Spreading antivax bollocks for starters such as
GB News broke Ofcom rules with presenter’s Covid vaccine claims
Regulator says Mark Steyn’s use of data to draw misleading conclusions breached content guidelines
GB News is an entertainment channel for right wing morons and Farage supporters masquerading as a bona fide news channel.
GB news is a propaganda tool funded by Marshall and Legatum to push their agenda. It's purpose is to create "talking points" that the more credible right wing news outlets can then report on dragging all the other news organisations into discussing these "talking points". If you gave Frank Luntz some truth serum he'd explain it all.
..or there's that..
Time will tell, if they continue to fund it over several years despite it making a loss then there must be another benefit for them.
I note Ed Miliband has described the energy price increase as "deeply worrying". If only there was someone who could do something about it.
If only Ed Miliband hadn’t spend the last decade or more saying that high energy costs were the price worth paying to get to ‘net zero’.
He was wrong. High energy costs are the price we are paying for not making the transition more quickly.
Although it cuts both ways. If Brown and Blair had built new nuclear power stations in the late 1990s and paid for them, we would be much better off now. But equally, we'd not be transitioning to wind and solar (which in the long run are better bets than nuclear) as quickly as we are.
And if Clegg and Cameron hadn't gone for the dash for gas, we'd be less reliant on wholesale gas prices. But equally, we'd have been burning lots of filthy coal for a lot longer.
And if any party had gone for tidal in a big way, they would have been doing the smart thing, so that was obviously never going to happen.
That recording of Jan 6th is indeed brutal. But it is not new. How can anyone support Trump after that, let alone nearly 45% of Americans?
I genuinely find it bewildering. How can any elected official of any part of the party think this is ok?
Many Americans see a very different picture of events, they’re fed a stream of propaganda on Fox News etc. They see a different reality, they’re told lies. They’re in a Facebook bubble where they believe that Harris slept her way to the top, lies about her ethnicity and her family, and is a communist. They’ve absorbed a message that the country is in a crisis because of immigrants and anyone who isn’t white.
These beliefs don’t spontaneously emerge. They are rehearsed, over and over again, by traditional and social media on the right.
It's why we should close down GB News.
Prevention is better than cure.
Also, pre-moderation for all twitter/x posts.
When I click inadvertently on a twitter link nowadays I get a request for my age before it will let me go further. I won't do this, so I have to live my life without Twitter. This has not made it any less happy, and I can recommend it, especially of you don't like giving personal details to a Site with a dubious reputation.
Of course I should be referring to Twitter as X, but I find that difficult because I tend to associate the letter with X ratings which were once used to denote saucy content. Do others react to X in the same way? I must admit that before my de facto ban I used to be startled by the large X that appeared on my screen. It used to make me think momentarily that I had clicked on a porn site by mistake. Imagine my disappointment when I realised it was only Twitter.
Though the difference between X and other sites publishing saucy images is increasingly small.
Twatter is self publishing. That tells you everything.
I note Ed Miliband has described the energy price increase as "deeply worrying". If only there was someone who could do something about it.
If only Ed Miliband hadn’t spend the last decade or more saying that high energy costs were the price worth paying to get to ‘net zero’.
There are surely different levels of "high"?
The average energy bill in 2010 was £450. In 2024 it is now rising to £1717.
Saying we should have paid more than £450 in 2010 to protect the environment but that £1717 is now too high is perfectly reasonable and I concur with him.
Though Kamala is definitely the least bad option by some way, this exchange shows the uphill struggle they have to persuade (some) voters of this. We are in the age of belief v facts.
Indeed anyone can post anything on the internet, and people will lap it up if it reenforces their prejudices against the out-group.
Speaking from experience, William?
You can avoid the tendency by not having an out-group and being one with humanity, even Trump supporters.
I try not to be one with humanity. It gets messy and you can't get the stains off the couch.
With humanity, @viewcode, not with couches. Jeez, why do people find this so hard?
Though Kamala is definitely the least bad option by some way, this exchange shows the uphill struggle they have to persuade (some) voters of this. We are in the age of belief v facts.
Indeed anyone can post anything on the internet, and people will lap it up if it reenforces their prejudices against the out-group.
Speaking from experience, William?
You can avoid the tendency by not having an out-group and being one with humanity, even Trump supporters.
I try not to be one with humanity. It gets messy and you can't get the stains off the couch.
With humanity, @viewcode, not with couches. Jeez, why do people find this so hard?
If Walz wins the Veep debate, will Vance go from fucking a couch to being fucked by a coach?
Though Kamala is definitely the least bad option by some way, this exchange shows the uphill struggle they have to persuade (some) voters of this. We are in the age of belief v facts.
Inflation may have fallen but prices have not. What the voters want us for prices to go back down, not to continue rising albeit more slowly. Failure to understand this is a real fault of the political classes
Prices are not going to go down though? Even I understand that as I stare gloomily at my last bit of Brie de Meaux.
Deflation is one of those things that sounds nice in a saloon bar.
Actually experiencing it is another thing. I can't really see people queuing up for falling wages.
Wasn't JD Vance claiming that children are going hungry something that led to outrage among Dem supporters ?
Well, if you get people such as Rishi Sunak pretending* that a small drop in inflation rate is going to make everything better for the public after three years of high inflation, I think I know where the problem lies.
*In his much trumpeted claims to the public during, or just before, the election campaign (you'll forgive my memory: all those Tory PMs get increasingly foreshortened with recency, which shouldn't be happening ...)
Though Kamala is definitely the least bad option by some way, this exchange shows the uphill struggle they have to persuade (some) voters of this. We are in the age of belief v facts.
Indeed anyone can post anything on the internet, and people will lap it up if it reenforces their prejudices against the out-group.
Speaking from experience, William?
You can avoid the tendency by not having an out-group and being one with humanity, even Trump supporters.
I try not to be one with humanity. It gets messy and you can't get the stains off the couch.
With humanity, @viewcode, not with couches. Jeez, why do people find this so hard?
I blame SexEd in schools. After all, maths education produces huge number of people who can't add. English, huge numbers of people who can't write their name. So it seems logical to assume.....
I saw that. I know the site quite well, and - well - long story short - pretty much everything she is saying is wrong and imbecilic.
It's basically an edge of central Manchester location. 30 years ago retail park sort of made sense, but it is increasingly surrounded by high-density resi, is walking distance to everywhere and should in no way be a big box retail park. It doesn't need lots of parking. There is a brilliant residential development just to the north of it - Middlewood Locks - and all this site should be doing is echoing Middlewood Locks. The woman is a berk.
Though Kamala is definitely the least bad option by some way, this exchange shows the uphill struggle they have to persuade (some) voters of this. We are in the age of belief v facts.
Inflation may have fallen but prices have not. What the voters want us for prices to go back down, not to continue rising albeit more slowly. Failure to understand this is a real fault of the political classes
Prices are not going to go down though? Even I understand that as I stare gloomily at my last bit of Brie de Meaux.
Deflation is one of those things that sounds nice in a saloon bar.
Actually experiencing it is another thing. I can't really see people queuing up for falling wages.
Though we've had decades of wages rising less than costs like rent and house prices.
A period of deflation in those costs, with wage rises, would reverse that damage.
There's no reason why some costs can't come down even while wages rise. See electricals as a classic example. Fix the housing market and there's no reason that can't happen there which would make living more affordable for those who have to pay those costs.
Those who make a living from receiving those costs would squeal, but that's competition.
Wasn't JD Vance claiming that children are going hungry something that led to outrage among Dem supporters ?
From last year:
David Cameron was famously asked the price of bread a decade ago and struggled to answer, saying instead he used an electric breadmaker. The answer was around 47p.
Then, the Tories were struggling to deal with a cost of living crisis and were accused of being out of touch. Now, here we are again a decade later, with the prime minister Rishi Sunak and his chancellor Jeremy Hunt being accused of having no clue. Only now an average white loaf is £1.37 – and this time it’s not just politicians that are under pressure to do something about it.
Wasn't JD Vance claiming that children are going hungry something that led to outrage among Dem supporters ?
Well, if you get people such as Rishi Sunak pretending* that a small drop in inflation rate is going to make everything better for the public after three years of high inflation, I think I know where the problem lies.
*In his much trumpeted claims to the public during, or just before, the election campaign (you'll forgive my memory: all those Tory PMs get increasingly foreshortened with recency, which shouldn't be happening ...)
A fall from 11% to 2% is not a small drop. In fact it is a reduction to the BoE’s target rate.
Though Kamala is definitely the least bad option by some way, this exchange shows the uphill struggle they have to persuade (some) voters of this. We are in the age of belief v facts.
Inflation may have fallen but prices have not. What the voters want us for prices to go back down, not to continue rising albeit more slowly. Failure to understand this is a real fault of the political classes
Prices are not going to go down though? Even I understand that as I stare gloomily at my last bit of Brie de Meaux.
Deflation is one of those things that sounds nice in a saloon bar.
Actually experiencing it is another thing. I can't really see people queuing up for falling wages.
Though we've had decades of wages rising less than costs like rent and house prices.
A period of deflation in those costs, with wage rises, would reverse that damage.
There's no reason why some costs can't come down even while wages rise. See electricals as a classic example. Fix the housing market and there's no reason that can't happen there which would make living more affordable for those who have to pay those costs.
Those who make a living from receiving those costs would squeal, but that's competition.
Falling prices together with higher wages requires productivity increases and technological improvements.
The electricals we buy now are not only cheaper but better.
Though Kamala is definitely the least bad option by some way, this exchange shows the uphill struggle they have to persuade (some) voters of this. We are in the age of belief v facts.
Inflation may have fallen but prices have not. What the voters want us for prices to go back down, not to continue rising albeit more slowly. Failure to understand this is a real fault of the political classes
Prices are not going to go down though? Even I understand that as I stare gloomily at my last bit of Brie de Meaux.
I monitor the price of Mr. Kipling Battenberg in Tesco cake quite closely - both a tasty snack and a good proxy for food price inflation as a whole - and can confirm that the price HAS gone back down from its 2022 highs.
Wasn't JD Vance claiming that children are going hungry something that led to outrage among Dem supporters ?
From last year:
David Cameron was famously asked the price of bread a decade ago and struggled to answer, saying instead he used an electric breadmaker. The answer was around 47p.
Then, the Tories were struggling to deal with a cost of living crisis and were accused of being out of touch. Now, here we are again a decade later, with the prime minister Rishi Sunak and his chancellor Jeremy Hunt being accused of having no clue. Only now an average white loaf is £1.37 – and this time it’s not just politicians that are under pressure to do something about it.
Wasn't JD Vance claiming that children are going hungry something that led to outrage among Dem supporters ?
Well, if you get people such as Rishi Sunak pretending* that a small drop in inflation rate is going to make everything better for the public after three years of high inflation, I think I know where the problem lies.
*In his much trumpeted claims to the public during, or just before, the election campaign (you'll forgive my memory: all those Tory PMs get increasingly foreshortened with recency, which shouldn't be happening ...)
It doesn’t matter whether it’s Rishi Sunak or Kamala Harris saying it, the public don’t think in national statistics, they just observe with their own wallets that prices keep going up, and are a lot higher than they were a handful of years ago.
Though Kamala is definitely the least bad option by some way, this exchange shows the uphill struggle they have to persuade (some) voters of this. We are in the age of belief v facts.
Inflation may have fallen but prices have not. What the voters want us for prices to go back down, not to continue rising albeit more slowly. Failure to understand this is a real fault of the political classes
Prices are not going to go down though? Even I understand that as I stare gloomily at my last bit of Brie de Meaux.
Deflation is one of those things that sounds nice in a saloon bar.
Actually experiencing it is another thing. I can't really see people queuing up for falling wages.
Though we've had decades of wages rising less than costs like rent and house prices.
A period of deflation in those costs, with wage rises, would reverse that damage.
There's no reason why some costs can't come down even while wages rise. See electricals as a classic example. Fix the housing market and there's no reason that can't happen there which would make living more affordable for those who have to pay those costs.
Those who make a living from receiving those costs would squeal, but that's competition.
Falling prices together with higher wages requires productivity increases and technological improvements.
The electricals we buy now are not only cheaper but better.
Indeed.
Remove the requirement for months or years of planning processes, lawyers and lawfare by vested interests and the productivity of the sector would shoot up.
And homes would not be just cheaper but better too. As has been seen in Japan which did this decades ago and prices not only became more affordable but homes became better too as who wants to rent/buy a shithole when there's an affordable alternative available instead?
Wasn't JD Vance claiming that children are going hungry something that led to outrage among Dem supporters ?
From last year:
David Cameron was famously asked the price of bread a decade ago and struggled to answer, saying instead he used an electric breadmaker. The answer was around 47p.
Then, the Tories were struggling to deal with a cost of living crisis and were accused of being out of touch. Now, here we are again a decade later, with the prime minister Rishi Sunak and his chancellor Jeremy Hunt being accused of having no clue. Only now an average white loaf is £1.37 – and this time it’s not just politicians that are under pressure to do something about it.
Wasn't JD Vance claiming that children are going hungry something that led to outrage among Dem supporters ?
Well, if you get people such as Rishi Sunak pretending* that a small drop in inflation rate is going to make everything better for the public after three years of high inflation, I think I know where the problem lies.
*In his much trumpeted claims to the public during, or just before, the election campaign (you'll forgive my memory: all those Tory PMs get increasingly foreshortened with recency, which shouldn't be happening ...)
A fall from 11% to 2% is not a small drop. In fact it is a reduction to the BoE’s target rate.
But you're missing the point that it didn't do anything for people who had been immiserated by the last few years. It's not the rate of increase, but the actual real price, that hits real people in real pockets.
That was an example of absolute exploitation of the different meanings of inflation - prices, rate of increase thereof, and differential thereof ...
Though Kamala is definitely the least bad option by some way, this exchange shows the uphill struggle they have to persuade (some) voters of this. We are in the age of belief v facts.
Inflation may have fallen but prices have not. What the voters want us for prices to go back down, not to continue rising albeit more slowly. Failure to understand this is a real fault of the political classes
As a politician, even if you understand it what can you do with that understanding? Prices aren't going to go down and voters wouldn't like it if you actually engineered deflation, so it's about as practically useful as understanding that lots of voters are nostalgic for the good old days when they were in their twenties. "Tread lightly and wait for peoples' memories of prices to fade a bit" is probably as good as it gets.
Wasn't JD Vance claiming that children are going hungry something that led to outrage among Dem supporters ?
From last year:
David Cameron was famously asked the price of bread a decade ago and struggled to answer, saying instead he used an electric breadmaker. The answer was around 47p.
Then, the Tories were struggling to deal with a cost of living crisis and were accused of being out of touch. Now, here we are again a decade later, with the prime minister Rishi Sunak and his chancellor Jeremy Hunt being accused of having no clue. Only now an average white loaf is £1.37 – and this time it’s not just politicians that are under pressure to do something about it.
Which suggests that the Guardian is as confused as any politician as to what the price of bread is.
On the Tesco loaf, given it was "first baked 1872" I'd expect it to be pretty cheap. That is crazy cheap by today's prices.
I reckon my tastes in bread to be a bit daringly top-end - and I'd blanche at paying much more than £1.20. I'm somewhat sceptical of the £1.37 figure. Perhaps that's the average of all loaves - because there are some expensive options out there - but I can't believe it's the average of all loaves bought.
Wasn't JD Vance claiming that children are going hungry something that led to outrage among Dem supporters ?
From last year:
David Cameron was famously asked the price of bread a decade ago and struggled to answer, saying instead he used an electric breadmaker. The answer was around 47p.
Then, the Tories were struggling to deal with a cost of living crisis and were accused of being out of touch. Now, here we are again a decade later, with the prime minister Rishi Sunak and his chancellor Jeremy Hunt being accused of having no clue. Only now an average white loaf is £1.37 – and this time it’s not just politicians that are under pressure to do something about it.
That recording of Jan 6th is indeed brutal. But it is not new. How can anyone support Trump after that, let alone nearly 45% of Americans?
I genuinely find it bewildering. How can any elected official of any part of the party think this is ok?
Many Americans see a very different picture of events, they’re fed a stream of propaganda on Fox News etc. They see a different reality, they’re told lies. They’re in a Facebook bubble where they believe that Harris slept her way to the top, lies about her ethnicity and her family, and is a communist. They’ve absorbed a message that the country is in a crisis because of immigrants and anyone who isn’t white.
These beliefs don’t spontaneously emerge. They are rehearsed, over and over again, by traditional and social media on the right.
It's why we should close down GB News.
Prevention is better than cure.
What calumnies are you alleging GBNews have been guilty of?
Spreading antivax bollocks for starters such as
GB News broke Ofcom rules with presenter’s Covid vaccine claims
Regulator says Mark Steyn’s use of data to draw misleading conclusions breached content guidelines
GB News is an entertainment channel for right wing morons and Farage supporters masquerading as a bona fide news channel.
On GB News, I don't understand how Gloria de Piero is still there. I'm surprised she hasn't jumped ship for somewhere like Times Radio.
Unlike Lee Anderson, she hasn't gone loopy, and still does interesting work.
Her twitter feed is civilised and interesting, as opposed to Anderson's constant dog whistles. https://x.com/GloriaDePiero
On GBNews itself, it is owned by Sir Paul Marshall and investment firm Legatum. Paul Marshall also owns Unherd, and is in the running to buy the Spectator and the Telegraph.
I note Ed Miliband has described the energy price increase as "deeply worrying". If only there was someone who could do something about it.
If only Ed Miliband hadn’t spend the last decade or more saying that high energy costs were the price worth paying to get to ‘net zero’.
He was wrong. High energy costs are the price we are paying for not making the transition more quickly.
High fossil fuel energy costs are a prerequisite for the renewables to be economic. If oil was $10 a barrel we wouldn’t be building wind farms.
The correct strategy was to have built a whole load more nuclear decades ago. Even the French can be right sometimes.
But oil isn't $10 a barrel. Indeed, the marginal costs of wind and solar make the inverse of your argument more likely. And now that the fixed costs of solar and batteries has fallen so rapidly...
Missing out on nuclear was a big mistake. Let's not make the same one with renewables.
Though Kamala is definitely the least bad option by some way, this exchange shows the uphill struggle they have to persuade (some) voters of this. We are in the age of belief v facts.
Inflation may have fallen but prices have not. What the voters want us for prices to go back down, not to continue rising albeit more slowly. Failure to understand this is a real fault of the political classes
Prices are not going to go down though? Even I understand that as I stare gloomily at my last bit of Brie de Meaux.
Deflation is one of those things that sounds nice in a saloon bar.
Actually experiencing it is another thing. I can't really see people queuing up for falling wages.
Though we've had decades of wages rising less than costs like rent and house prices.
A period of deflation in those costs, with wage rises, would reverse that damage.
There's no reason why some costs can't come down even while wages rise. See electricals as a classic example. Fix the housing market and there's no reason that can't happen there which would make living more affordable for those who have to pay those costs.
Those who make a living from receiving those costs would squeal, but that's competition.
Falling costs in one sector is one thing. Deflation means an overall, average fall across the whole economy.
Economists from left, right, centre and plain loony all agree that you don't want that.
That recording of Jan 6th is indeed brutal. But it is not new. How can anyone support Trump after that, let alone nearly 45% of Americans?
I genuinely find it bewildering. How can any elected official of any part of the party think this is ok?
Many Americans see a very different picture of events, they’re fed a stream of propaganda on Fox News etc. They see a different reality, they’re told lies. They’re in a Facebook bubble where they believe that Harris slept her way to the top, lies about her ethnicity and her family, and is a communist. They’ve absorbed a message that the country is in a crisis because of immigrants and anyone who isn’t white.
These beliefs don’t spontaneously emerge. They are rehearsed, over and over again, by traditional and social media on the right.
It's why we should close down GB News.
Prevention is better than cure.
Also, pre-moderation for all twitter/x posts.
When I click inadvertently on a twitter link nowadays I get a request for my age before it will let me go further. I won't do this, so I have to live my life without Twitter. This has not made it any less happy, and I can recommend it, especially of you don't like giving personal details to a Site with a dubious reputation.
Of course I should be referring to Twitter as X, but I find that difficult because I tend to associate the letter with X ratings which were once used to denote saucy content. Do others react to X in the same way? I must admit that before my de facto ban I used to be startled by the large X that appeared on my screen. It used to make me think momentarily that I had clicked on a porn site by mistake. Imagine my disappointment when I realised it was only Twitter.
I just gave them my usual fake birthday for sites that demand this information but appear to have no legitimate reason for having it.
(I get a lot of happy birthday emails and discounts etc from companies on my 'official' birthday )
Wasn't JD Vance claiming that children are going hungry something that led to outrage among Dem supporters ?
From last year:
David Cameron was famously asked the price of bread a decade ago and struggled to answer, saying instead he used an electric breadmaker. The answer was around 47p.
Then, the Tories were struggling to deal with a cost of living crisis and were accused of being out of touch. Now, here we are again a decade later, with the prime minister Rishi Sunak and his chancellor Jeremy Hunt being accused of having no clue. Only now an average white loaf is £1.37 – and this time it’s not just politicians that are under pressure to do something about it.
Which suggests that the Guardian is as confused as any politician as to what the price of bread is.
On the Tesco loaf, given it was "first baked 1872" I'd expect it to be pretty cheap. That is crazy cheap by today's prices.
I reckon my tastes in bread to be a bit daringly top-end - and I'd blanche at paying much more than £1.20. I'm somewhat sceptical of the £1.37 figure. Perhaps that's the average of all loaves - because there are some expensive options out there - but I can't believe it's the average of all loaves bought.
A Roberts loaf - which is pretty high end - is 1.35.
Warburton is 1.40.
How many people buy those ahead of own brand?
That average figure of 1.37 is as plausible as Dominic Cummings' excuses for breaking lockdown.
Edit - the only thing I can think of is that it includes artisanal unsliced loaves from high end bakeries. You can pay three quid for a white loaf in a farm shop, if you're especially stupid. But that's not really the way the average should be calculated.
That recording of Jan 6th is indeed brutal. But it is not new. How can anyone support Trump after that, let alone nearly 45% of Americans?
I genuinely find it bewildering. How can any elected official of any part of the party think this is ok?
Many Americans see a very different picture of events, they’re fed a stream of propaganda on Fox News etc. They see a different reality, they’re told lies. They’re in a Facebook bubble where they believe that Harris slept her way to the top, lies about her ethnicity and her family, and is a communist. They’ve absorbed a message that the country is in a crisis because of immigrants and anyone who isn’t white.
These beliefs don’t spontaneously emerge. They are rehearsed, over and over again, by traditional and social media on the right.
It's why we should close down GB News.
Prevention is better than cure.
Also, pre-moderation for all twitter/x posts.
When I click inadvertently on a twitter link nowadays I get a request for my age before it will let me go further. I won't do this, so I have to live my life without Twitter. This has not made it any less happy, and I can recommend it, especially of you don't like giving personal details to a Site with a dubious reputation.
Of course I should be referring to Twitter as X, but I find that difficult because I tend to associate the letter with X ratings which were once used to denote saucy content. Do others react to X in the same way? I must admit that before my de facto ban I used to be startled by the large X that appeared on my screen. It used to make me think momentarily that I had clicked on a porn site by mistake. Imagine my disappointment when I realised it was only Twitter.
X Twitter. XX A woman. XXX Pornography. XXXX A foul Aussie lager.
That recording of Jan 6th is indeed brutal. But it is not new. How can anyone support Trump after that, let alone nearly 45% of Americans?
I genuinely find it bewildering. How can any elected official of any part of the party think this is ok?
Many Americans see a very different picture of events, they’re fed a stream of propaganda on Fox News etc. They see a different reality, they’re told lies. They’re in a Facebook bubble where they believe that Harris slept her way to the top, lies about her ethnicity and her family, and is a communist. They’ve absorbed a message that the country is in a crisis because of immigrants and anyone who isn’t white.
These beliefs don’t spontaneously emerge. They are rehearsed, over and over again, by traditional and social media on the right.
It's why we should close down GB News.
Prevention is better than cure.
Also, pre-moderation for all twitter/x posts.
When I click inadvertently on a twitter link nowadays I get a request for my age before it will let me go further. I won't do this, so I have to live my life without Twitter. This has not made it any less happy, and I can recommend it, especially of you don't like giving personal details to a Site with a dubious reputation.
Of course I should be referring to Twitter as X, but I find that difficult because I tend to associate the letter with X ratings which were once used to denote saucy content. Do others react to X in the same way? I must admit that before my de facto ban I used to be startled by the large X that appeared on my screen. It used to make me think momentarily that I had clicked on a porn site by mistake. Imagine my disappointment when I realised it was only Twitter.
X Twitter. XX A woman. XXX Pornography. XXXX A foul Aussie lager.
Didn't realise you were such a TERF, Pulpstar
I'm more worried about this tautology in 'foul lager.'
Wasn't JD Vance claiming that children are going hungry something that led to outrage among Dem supporters ?
Well, if you get people such as Rishi Sunak pretending* that a small drop in inflation rate is going to make everything better for the public after three years of high inflation, I think I know where the problem lies.
*In his much trumpeted claims to the public during, or just before, the election campaign (you'll forgive my memory: all those Tory PMs get increasingly foreshortened with recency, which shouldn't be happening ...)
A fall from 11% to 2% is not a small drop. In fact it is a reduction to the BoE’s target rate.
But you're missing the point that it didn't do anything for people who had been immiserated by the last few years. It's not the rate of increase, but the actual real price, that hits real people in real pockets.
That was an example of absolute exploitation of the different meanings of inflation - prices, rate of increase thereof, and differential thereof ...
Inflation has only one meaning, the change in the value of prices. Getting inflation to the target set by the BoE, a large reduction from the peak after the pandemic, is a good thing. Deflation, on the other hand, may not be desirable (see Japan, for e.g.).
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I genuinely find it bewildering. How can any elected official of any part of the party think this is ok?
https://x.com/JakeLahut/status/1826818774781018322
And he did!
And Trump had a further meltdown over it.
These beliefs don’t spontaneously emerge. They are rehearsed, over and over again, by traditional and social media on the right.
Pence endorsing Harris.
I hope W endorses Harris too and Texas goes Dem again.
Well a boy can dream.
https://x.com/KamalaHQ/status/1826818501165633806
Prevention is better than cure.
And these people have only heard complete bullshit for the past 8 years...
Fox News is dangerous because it has reach. GB News does not.
For instance, federal approval for one commonly used abortion drug could be withdrawn.
And if the drug isn't legal in the USA a state wouldn't be able to use it..
Project 2025 wouldn’t ban abortion outright, but would curtail access
The Harris campaign shared a graphic on X that claimed “Trump’s Project 2025 plan for workers” would “go after birth control and ban abortion nationwide.”
The plan doesn’t call to ban abortion nationwide, though its recommendations could curtail some contraceptives and limit abortion access.
What’s known about Trump’s abortion agenda neither lines up with Harris’ description nor Project 2025’s wish list.
Project 2025 says the Department of Health and Human Services Department should “return to being known as the Department of Life by explicitly rejecting the notion that abortion is health care..."
The plan proposes withholding federal money from states that don’t report to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention how many abortions take place within their borders. The plan also would prohibit abortion providers, such as Planned Parenthood, from receiving Medicaid funds. It also calls for the Department of Health and Human Services to ensure that the training of medical professionals, including doctors and nurses, omits abortion training.
The document says some forms of emergency contraception — particularly Ella, a pill that can be taken within five days of unprotected sex to prevent pregnancy — should be excluded from no-cost coverage. The Affordable Care Act requires most private health insurers to cover recommended preventive services, which involves a range of birth control methods, including emergency contraception.
Trump has recently said states should decide abortion regulations and that he wouldn’t block access to contraceptives. Trump said during his June 27 debate with Biden that he wouldn’t ban mifepristone after the Supreme Court “approved” it. But the court rejected the lawsuit based on standing, not the case’s merits. He has not weighed in on the Comstock Act or said whether he supports it being used to block abortion medication, or other kinds of abortions.
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/fact-checking-warnings-from-democrats-about-project-2025-and-donald-trump
This would in practice probably make abortions illegal because the medical providers wouldn't be able to survive financially given the labyrinthine nature of US healthcare financing, leaving only backstreet abortionists. Is that a ban? No. Is it a distinction without a difference? I would say so.
Is this Trump's agenda? Not officially. He has, in fact, verbally tried to distance himself from it.
But, it was written in co-operation with JD Vance whom Trump tapped up as his running mate *after* it was published.
It is reasonable, especially with a notorious and fluent liar like Trump, to consider his actions not his words. If he is saying that he doesn't agree with Project 2025 and yet giving prominent positions to those who support it, we should take seriously the possibility that it will be implemented regardless of what he says.
His latest speech "America does not have a gun problem", delivered behind bulletproof glass...
GB News broke Ofcom rules with presenter’s Covid vaccine claims
Regulator says Mark Steyn’s use of data to draw misleading conclusions breached content guidelines
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2023/mar/06/gb-news-broke-ofcom-rules-presenter-covid-vaccine-claims-mark-steyn
and
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/feb/13/gb-news-turbo-cancer-conspiracy-theories-ofcom-bias-anti-vaxxer
Then it's not true.
https://x.com/craigrozniecki/status/1826641723809808677?s=61&t=LYVEHh2mqFy1oUJAdCfe-Q
JD Vance trying to order doughnuts set to the Veep end credits
https://x.com/ParkerMolloy/status/1826732351675875636
If they didn't have a virtual monopoly nobody would use them.
a) that Trump will win
b) that Trump will give him an important job
anyway here is his latest video, telling lies about JFK:
https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=1048373192794047
"he kept us out of Vietnam... a month before he died he signed national security order 263 ordering all the troops home from Vietnam and 30 days later he was murdered" He even has order 263 on the screen so you can read it ordering the withdrawal of 1000 US military personnel (there were over 16000 in Vietnam at the time - sent there by Kennedy).
Later in the video he criticises Trump for promising in 2016 to release all the documents about JFK's assassination and then changing his mind when he became president. I'm not sure that's someone about to endorse Trump.
Good morning, everyone.
Rather relieved. Halfway through a 'do not turn off your computer' update, the power went out. Just came back now, I think everything's ok. Was worried my desktop, which I've only had a few months, might've become a brick.
Of course I should be referring to Twitter as X, but I find that difficult because I tend to associate the letter with X ratings which were once used to denote saucy content. Do others react to X in the same way? I must admit that before my de facto ban I used to be startled by the large X that appeared on my screen. It used to make me think momentarily that I had clicked on a porn site by mistake. Imagine my disappointment when I realised it was only Twitter.
His GE polling has fallen and he’s currently getting between 3% to 5% on average .
He would have been a bigger factor if Biden had remained as the nominee . I doubt Harris or Trump will be losing too much sleep if he remains in the race .
XX A woman.
XXX Pornography.
XXXX A foul Aussie lager.
My first thought was: this is a great way for Musky Baby and Twitter to get detailed information on how you are going to vote, and therefore the sort of advertisements and misinformation to push your way...
(*) I don't follow him, and try not to interact with his account, but for some reason many of his tweets get pushed my way. I wonder if the algorithm is perfect in this regard...
And, given 30 years of terrorism in Northern Ireland, we can't be as superior as we'd like.
Harris-Walz officially nominated.
Just collected a monkey from BF.
Good times.
According to Wrong Daily increasing the supply of houses in her area by 3300 won't help address the housing shortage.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cvgd429gdpno.amp
It’s a version of States Rights that is familiar. Down to the demand that other states use their police forces to track down and catch escaped slaves. women who want an abortion.
The people involved in this are often hard core MAGA, friends of Trump and are open about heir desire for a federal abortion ban.
On the other, getting prices going down, deflation, tends to get out of hand in a really bad way. It would not be desirable.
Once again, voters want something that doesn't really exist. That's not particularly the fault of voters, but it's also not the fault of politicians. If anyone is culpable, it's the minority who try to get ahead by promising the impossible, and the sort of lickspittle media who amplify them.
https://youtu.be/d3Mrfut-FSw?si=jH2o8sy152zwLxmd
Is it also the fault of the BBC that the Britons think that inflation is a problem ?
After all the BBC website has a whole 'Cost of Living' section:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/topics/cljev4jz3pjt
Likewise the Guardian has this section:
https://www.theguardian.com/business/cost-of-living-crisis
with this https://www.theguardian.com/society/article/2024/aug/20/half-a-million-children-to-go-hungry-if-1bn-crisis-fund-is-ditched as a recent addition.
Wasn't JD Vance claiming that children are going hungry something that led to outrage among Dem supporters ?
And if Clegg and Cameron hadn't gone for the dash for gas, we'd be less reliant on wholesale gas prices. But equally, we'd have been burning lots of filthy coal for a lot longer.
And if any party had gone for tidal in a big way, they would have been doing the smart thing, so that was obviously never going to happen.
The average energy bill in 2010 was £450.
In 2024 it is now rising to £1717.
Saying we should have paid more than £450 in 2010 to protect the environment but that £1717 is now too high is perfectly reasonable and I concur with him.
Slashing the cost of powering homes, factories, automobiles, schools, hospitals and everything else is in everyone's best interests.
Actually experiencing it is another thing. I can't really see people queuing up for falling wages.
*In his much trumpeted claims to the public during, or just before, the election campaign (you'll forgive my memory: all those Tory PMs get increasingly foreshortened with recency, which shouldn't be happening ...)
It's basically an edge of central Manchester location. 30 years ago retail park sort of made sense, but it is increasingly surrounded by high-density resi, is walking distance to everywhere and should in no way be a big box retail park. It doesn't need lots of parking. There is a brilliant residential development just to the north of it - Middlewood Locks - and all this site should be doing is echoing Middlewood Locks.
The woman is a berk.
A period of deflation in those costs, with wage rises, would reverse that damage.
There's no reason why some costs can't come down even while wages rise. See electricals as a classic example. Fix the housing market and there's no reason that can't happen there which would make living more affordable for those who have to pay those costs.
Those who make a living from receiving those costs would squeal, but that's competition.
David Cameron was famously asked the price of bread a decade ago and struggled to answer, saying instead he used an electric breadmaker. The answer was around 47p.
Then, the Tories were struggling to deal with a cost of living crisis and were accused of being out of touch. Now, here we are again a decade later, with the prime minister Rishi Sunak and his chancellor Jeremy Hunt being accused of having no clue. Only now an average white loaf is £1.37 – and this time it’s not just politicians that are under pressure to do something about it.
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2023/jul/01/rip-off-britain-cost-of-living-crisis-uk-retail-profits
You can get an 800g sliced loaf for 47p from the supermarkets:
https://www.tesco.com/groceries/en-GB/products/299045558
Which suggests that the Guardian is as confused as any politician as to what the price of bread is.
The correct strategy was to have built a whole load more nuclear decades ago. Even the French can be right sometimes.
The electricals we buy now are not only cheaper but better.
That is crazy cheap by today's prices.
Remove the requirement for months or years of planning processes, lawyers and lawfare by vested interests and the productivity of the sector would shoot up.
And homes would not be just cheaper but better too. As has been seen in Japan which did this decades ago and prices not only became more affordable but homes became better too as who wants to rent/buy a shithole when there's an affordable alternative available instead?
That was an example of absolute exploitation of the different meanings of inflation - prices, rate of increase thereof, and differential thereof ...
Perhaps that's the average of all loaves - because there are some expensive options out there - but I can't believe it's the average of all loaves bought.
Unlike Lee Anderson, she hasn't gone loopy, and still does interesting work.
Her twitter feed is civilised and interesting, as opposed to Anderson's constant dog whistles.
https://x.com/GloriaDePiero
On GBNews itself, it is owned by Sir Paul Marshall and investment firm Legatum. Paul Marshall also owns Unherd, and is in the running to buy the Spectator and the Telegraph.
https://archive.ph/K4Y0S
Missing out on nuclear was a big mistake. Let's not make the same one with renewables.
Economists from left, right, centre and plain loony all agree that you don't want that.
(I get a lot of happy birthday emails and discounts etc from companies on my 'official' birthday )
Warburton is 1.40.
How many people buy those ahead of own brand?
That average figure of 1.37 is as plausible as Dominic Cummings' excuses for breaking lockdown.
Edit - the only thing I can think of is that it includes artisanal unsliced loaves from high end bakeries. You can pay three quid for a white loaf in a farm shop, if you're especially stupid. But that's not really the way the average should be calculated.