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Ed Davey’s cunning stunts worked but as for the betting scandal – politicalbetting.com

SystemSystem Posts: 12,212
edited August 26 in General
Ed Davey’s cunning stunts worked but as for the betting scandal – politicalbetting.com

What was the news story the public remembered most about Labour from the election campaign? (asked 8-9 Jul)Top 3Taxes under a Labour govt: 7%Starmer's leadership and debate performance: 6%Labour's campaign message of change: 6%https://t.co/jS5t8MM7D0 pic.twitter.com/NM96hdJ2Jc

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  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,956
    edited August 14
    My photo of the day.



  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 22,376
    Political Betting helped destroy the Tories...
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,956
    GIN1138 said:

    Political Betting helped destroy the Tories...

    Whilst PB was edited by a lifelong Tory
  • FPT

    More information and analysis at https://www.cookpolitical.com/survey-research/2024-swing-state-project/fight-redefine-2024-race-president

    In May, in the five-way horserace including third party candidates, just 82% of the voters who supported Biden in 2020 were committed to voting for him this fall. Harris is getting 91% of those voters. Among independent voters, Harris leads Trump 48% to 40% in the 2-way head-to-head. In May, Trump led Biden among independent voters by three points (41% to 38%).

    Trump, however, continues to hold an advantage over Harris on issues like the border and immigration (+14 points), getting inflation and the cost of living under control (+6) and dealing with crime and violence (+4). Undecided voters and third-party voters overwhelmingly say that they are more worried about Harris setting economic policy than they are about Trump setting immigration policy.



  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,030
    Has there been any update on those involved in the betting scandal?
  • numbertwelvenumbertwelve Posts: 6,916
    Looking through that list. Good god, it was an absolutely awful election campaign wasn’t it.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 28,888
    GIN1138 said:

    Political Betting helped destroy the Tories...

    You have just shot the messenger.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 60,668
    Tories were right to go on taxes then
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 52,934
    Ed Davey will forever be associated with the cunning stunt meme.

    I think I've go that right.
  • OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 33,694

    FPT

    More information and analysis at https://www.cookpolitical.com/survey-research/2024-swing-state-project/fight-redefine-2024-race-president

    In May, in the five-way horserace including third party candidates, just 82% of the voters who supported Biden in 2020 were committed to voting for him this fall. Harris is getting 91% of those voters. Among independent voters, Harris leads Trump 48% to 40% in the 2-way head-to-head. In May, Trump led Biden among independent voters by three points (41% to 38%).

    Trump, however, continues to hold an advantage over Harris on issues like the border and immigration (+14 points), getting inflation and the cost of living under control (+6) and dealing with crime and violence (+4). Undecided voters and third-party voters overwhelmingly say that they are more worried about Harris setting economic policy than they are about Trump setting immigration policy.



    I'd be quite interested to see some results from deeper red states, such as Texas.
  • KnightOutKnightOut Posts: 145
    The stunts only worked for Ed Davey because very few people actually dislike him.

    If it had been, say, Boris doing exactly the same stuff there would've been an endless barrage of criticism, comments about 'buffoonery' and not taking the election seriously and so on
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 72,172

    My photo of the day.



    You had him over for afternoon tea and trampolining ?
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 52,934

    FPT

    More information and analysis at https://www.cookpolitical.com/survey-research/2024-swing-state-project/fight-redefine-2024-race-president

    In May, in the five-way horserace including third party candidates, just 82% of the voters who supported Biden in 2020 were committed to voting for him this fall. Harris is getting 91% of those voters. Among independent voters, Harris leads Trump 48% to 40% in the 2-way head-to-head. In May, Trump led Biden among independent voters by three points (41% to 38%).

    Trump, however, continues to hold an advantage over Harris on issues like the border and immigration (+14 points), getting inflation and the cost of living under control (+6) and dealing with crime and violence (+4). Undecided voters and third-party voters overwhelmingly say that they are more worried about Harris setting economic policy than they are about Trump setting immigration policy.



    On one level it is grotesque that Trump leads on the border, having crashed a bipartisan deal on it in Congress just so he can have the benefit of it as a live issue in this election. I guess it has worked, but there is still scope for Harris - and especially Walz - to make hay with this and show him not to have been working in the national interest. It's one of those things that if he starts losing badly, people will see it for what it was.
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 28,807

    My photo of the day.



    It was very mean of @TOPPING to say 'Put it on a diet' in reference to Sir Ed earlier.
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 28,807
    Nigelb said:

    My photo of the day.



    You had him over for afternoon tea and trampolining ?
    Hopefully not a euphemism.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 72,172
    German Luftwaffe base Koeln-Wahn cordoned off after a suspected breach of security. Personnel advised to not use tap water on base. Hole in fence found by security personnel.

    The base is notable for housing Flugbereitschaft aircraft & as logistics hub.

    https://x.com/AlexLuck9/status/1823666235823075743

    I’m sure it’s nothing to worry about…

    Bild now reporting Geilenkirchen air base also sealed off with similar issue reported. Geilenkirchen houses the NATO AWACS-fleet.
    https://x.com/AlexLuck9/status/1823697762258706943

  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 28,807
    RobD said:

    Has there been any update on those involved in the betting scandal?

    They won.
  • OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 33,694
    KnightOut said:

    The stunts only worked for Ed Davey because very few people actually dislike him.

    If it had been, say, Boris doing exactly the same stuff there would've been an endless barrage of criticism, comments about 'buffoonery' and not taking the election seriously and so on

    The woman who stood against Davey 'because of his treatment of Alan Bates' didn't seem to get much traction, either.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 52,934

    FPT

    More information and analysis at https://www.cookpolitical.com/survey-research/2024-swing-state-project/fight-redefine-2024-race-president

    In May, in the five-way horserace including third party candidates, just 82% of the voters who supported Biden in 2020 were committed to voting for him this fall. Harris is getting 91% of those voters. Among independent voters, Harris leads Trump 48% to 40% in the 2-way head-to-head. In May, Trump led Biden among independent voters by three points (41% to 38%).

    Trump, however, continues to hold an advantage over Harris on issues like the border and immigration (+14 points), getting inflation and the cost of living under control (+6) and dealing with crime and violence (+4). Undecided voters and third-party voters overwhelmingly say that they are more worried about Harris setting economic policy than they are about Trump setting immigration policy.



    I'd be quite interested to see some results from deeper red states, such as Texas.
    An earlier post today referenced polling that had both Florida and Texas only as "Leans Republican". (North Carolina was Toss Up.) Florida has abortion on the ballot, which will be a drive rof turnout and, unless there is a split ticket, is likely to be harmful to Trump as the guy who bragged about his judges killing Roe v Wade...
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 32,945
    edited August 14
    Clever of the LDs to go from 8 to 72 seats with a vote share increase of 0.7 points (from 11.8% to 12.5%).
  • kamskikamski Posts: 5,208
    Nigelb said:

    German Luftwaffe base Koeln-Wahn cordoned off after a suspected breach of security. Personnel advised to not use tap water on base. Hole in fence found by security personnel.

    The base is notable for housing Flugbereitschaft aircraft & as logistics hub.

    https://x.com/AlexLuck9/status/1823666235823075743

    I’m sure it’s nothing to worry about…

    Bild now reporting Geilenkirchen air base also sealed off with similar issue reported. Geilenkirchen houses the NATO AWACS-fleet.
    https://x.com/AlexLuck9/status/1823697762258706943

    Bild seems to have got Geilenkirchen wrong
  • StockyStocky Posts: 10,231

    RobD said:

    Has there been any update on those involved in the betting scandal?

    They won.
    Did they?

    The Gambling Commission, which is supposed to protect punters, decided to protect the bookies in this instance didn't it? I'm assuming the bookies took the opportunity to void the bets?
  • mercatormercator Posts: 815
    https://www.thetimes.com/article/26e636fb-8057-4fdf-814c-cf5b0c5c5ee3?shareToken=08b0d33d3902a77ed7aae0f558da8486

    Sunday Times before last, riffing on the "nothing makes much difference" theme: VP picks make very little difference and in particular don't "deliver" key states or constituencies.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 52,112
    GIN1138 said:

    Political Betting helped destroy the Tories...

    "It's the Sunil wot won it!"
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 28,807
    Stocky said:

    RobD said:

    Has there been any update on those involved in the betting scandal?

    They won.
    Did they?

    The Gambling Commission, which is supposed to protect punters, decided to protect the bookies in this instance didn't it? I'm assuming the bookies took the opportunity to void the bets?
    I have no idea, it was a silly joke hinting that RobD didn't know that Sunak lost the election and that was what he was asking.
  • EabhalEabhal Posts: 8,942
    STONEHENGE IS SCOTTISH

    BBC News - Famous Stonehenge stone came from Scotland not Wales
    https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c207lqdn755o

    ahahahaha
  • StockyStocky Posts: 10,231
    edited August 14

    Stocky said:

    RobD said:

    Has there been any update on those involved in the betting scandal?

    They won.
    Did they?

    The Gambling Commission, which is supposed to protect punters, decided to protect the bookies in this instance didn't it? I'm assuming the bookies took the opportunity to void the bets?
    I have no idea, it was a silly joke hinting that RobD didn't know that Sunak lost the election and that was what he was asking.
    I realised it was a joke.

    I thought the whole 'scandal' was magnified to be honest. Of course it was.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,956
    Eabhal said:

    STONEHENGE IS SCOTTISH

    BBC News - Famous Stonehenge stone came from Scotland not Wales
    https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c207lqdn755o

    ahahahaha

    Bloody Scots, invading England once again.
  • StuartinromfordStuartinromford Posts: 17,442
    Andy_JS said:

    Clever of the LDs to go from 8 to 72 seats with a vote share increase of 0.7 points (from 11.8% to 12.5%).

    It's all about the efficiency. Putting on votes where it gets them seats (crudely, Nice Leafy Britain) and dropping them where it's irrelevant.

    Which has always been a feature in FPTP. It's a similar dynamic to the SNP, who got 48 seats on 3.9 percent of the vote in 2019.

    And the challenge for the Conservatives now is that those 72 Nice Britain seats look like a powerful block on the Conservatives getting above 300. (See the effect the SNP had on Labour until it all went Pete McTong for them.)
  • algarkirkalgarkirk Posts: 12,857
    From the header:

    "Sir Keir Starmer must feel a bit of a tool, given how often he was the son of a toolmaker just 1% of the public remember that from the election campaign."

    Nice piece of deliberate misreading. The data is consistent with 100% of those polled remembering that SKS was the son of a toolmaker and 99% of them rightly not thinking it was especially significant or that it was the thing they heard most.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 72,172
    edited August 14
    Eabhal said:

    STONEHENGE IS SCOTTISH

    BBC News - Famous Stonehenge stone came from Scotland not Wales
    https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c207lqdn755o

    ahahahaha

    Will Scotland demand its return ?

    Or can we now reinterpret Stonehenge as a proto Union flag ?
    Comprising, as it does, stone from the three nations.
  • EabhalEabhal Posts: 8,942
    Nigelb said:

    Eabhal said:

    STONEHENGE IS SCOTTISH

    BBC News - Famous Stonehenge stone came from Scotland not Wales
    https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c207lqdn755o

    ahahahaha

    Will Scotland demand its return ?
    Team up with the Greeks.

    Jokes aside, it's astonishing how influential the area around Orkney was. A real cradle of civilisation. I strongly recommend PBers spend a week up there (preferably by bike), and make sure you visit some of the smaller islands.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 72,172
    Eabhal said:

    Nigelb said:

    Eabhal said:

    STONEHENGE IS SCOTTISH

    BBC News - Famous Stonehenge stone came from Scotland not Wales
    https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c207lqdn755o

    ahahahaha

    Will Scotland demand its return ?
    Team up with the Greeks.

    Jokes aside, it's astonishing how influential the area around Orkney was. A real cradle of civilisation. I strongly recommend PBers spend a week up there (preferably by bike), and make sure you visit some of the smaller islands.
    Amphibious bike ?
    Seems ambitious even for a DuraAce.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 72,172
    kamski said:

    Nigelb said:

    German Luftwaffe base Koeln-Wahn cordoned off after a suspected breach of security. Personnel advised to not use tap water on base. Hole in fence found by security personnel.

    The base is notable for housing Flugbereitschaft aircraft & as logistics hub.

    https://x.com/AlexLuck9/status/1823666235823075743

    I’m sure it’s nothing to worry about…

    Bild now reporting Geilenkirchen air base also sealed off with similar issue reported. Geilenkirchen houses the NATO AWACS-fleet.
    https://x.com/AlexLuck9/status/1823697762258706943

    Bild seems to have got Geilenkirchen wrong
    In what way ?
    Does that mean WWIII isn’t imminent after all ?
  • algarkirkalgarkirk Posts: 12,857

    Looking through that list. Good god, it was an absolutely awful election campaign wasn’t it.

    It was politically/intellectually the most bankrupt I can remember; psephologically it was total box office from start to finish; it is possible still that it was the critical election in rejigging the whol;e structure of GB politics. There is not yet any evidence that the Tories have the faintest idea what to do about it.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 52,112

    Eabhal said:

    STONEHENGE IS SCOTTISH

    BBC News - Famous Stonehenge stone came from Scotland not Wales
    https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c207lqdn755o

    ahahahaha

    Bloody Scots, invading England once again.
    I don't think there were entities called "England", "Scotland", or "Wales" 5,000 years ago!
  • kamskikamski Posts: 5,208
    Nigelb said:

    kamski said:

    Nigelb said:

    German Luftwaffe base Koeln-Wahn cordoned off after a suspected breach of security. Personnel advised to not use tap water on base. Hole in fence found by security personnel.

    The base is notable for housing Flugbereitschaft aircraft & as logistics hub.

    https://x.com/AlexLuck9/status/1823666235823075743

    I’m sure it’s nothing to worry about…

    Bild now reporting Geilenkirchen air base also sealed off with similar issue reported. Geilenkirchen houses the NATO AWACS-fleet.
    https://x.com/AlexLuck9/status/1823697762258706943

    Bild seems to have got Geilenkirchen wrong
    In what way ?
    Does that mean WWIII isn’t imminent after all ?
    https://www.zeit.de/gesellschaft/2024-08/bundeswehr-nato-sabotageverdacht-geilenkirchen-entwarnung

    The base wasn't sealed off, but someone was prevented from entering. The base was 'routinely searched', the water was tested, nothing was found, and the base continued to operate normally.
  • eekeek Posts: 28,585
    algarkirk said:

    Looking through that list. Good god, it was an absolutely awful election campaign wasn’t it.

    It was politically/intellectually the most bankrupt I can remember; psephologically it was total box office from start to finish; it is possible still that it was the critical election in rejigging the whol;e structure of GB politics. There is not yet any evidence that the Tories have the faintest idea what to do about it.
    The efficiency of the anti-Tory centre/left flank was a sight to behold especially when you consider how many votes Labour lost to lefter wing parties (either the Gazza independents or the Greens).
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 42,632

    My photo of the day.


    Take it back. Nothing like my cat.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,956

    Eabhal said:

    STONEHENGE IS SCOTTISH

    BBC News - Famous Stonehenge stone came from Scotland not Wales
    https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c207lqdn755o

    ahahahaha

    Bloody Scots, invading England once again.
    I don't think there were entities called "England", "Scotland", or "Wales" 5,000 years ago!
    Sounds like fake news to me.
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 43,434
    Eabhal said:

    STONEHENGE IS SCOTTISH

    BBC News - Famous Stonehenge stone came from Scotland not Wales
    https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c207lqdn755o

    ahahahaha

    My default position on 'research' about Stonehenge, especially when it is something new and controversial, is extreme scepticism.

    I can believe the bluestones come from the Preseli Hills, as it has been researched the heck out of. But when it comes to the claims of Mike Pearson that the stones originally formed a circle in Wales... well, scepticism is justified.

    If you want to make a name for yourself, come up with a theory about Stonehenge, preferably controversial, and preferably with s SCIENCE!!!! paper to back it up. It's the sort of thing Nature laps up.

    I'm not saying it's wrong, and it may be more credible than Pearson's claims, but I am sceptical.
  • DougSealDougSeal Posts: 12,541
    edited August 14
    eek said:

    algarkirk said:

    Looking through that list. Good god, it was an absolutely awful election campaign wasn’t it.

    It was politically/intellectually the most bankrupt I can remember; psephologically it was total box office from start to finish; it is possible still that it was the critical election in rejigging the whol;e structure of GB politics. There is not yet any evidence that the Tories have the faintest idea what to do about it.
    The efficiency of the anti-Tory centre/left flank was a sight to behold especially when you consider how many votes Labour lost to lefter wing parties (either the Gazza independents or the Greens).
    "Gazza" independents? Can someone make a joke about the former England, Newcastle, Spurs, Lazio and Rangers player for me please?
  • kamskikamski Posts: 5,208
    Nigelb said:

    kamski said:

    Nigelb said:

    German Luftwaffe base Koeln-Wahn cordoned off after a suspected breach of security. Personnel advised to not use tap water on base. Hole in fence found by security personnel.

    The base is notable for housing Flugbereitschaft aircraft & as logistics hub.

    https://x.com/AlexLuck9/status/1823666235823075743

    I’m sure it’s nothing to worry about…

    Bild now reporting Geilenkirchen air base also sealed off with similar issue reported. Geilenkirchen houses the NATO AWACS-fleet.
    https://x.com/AlexLuck9/status/1823697762258706943

    Bild seems to have got Geilenkirchen wrong
    In what way ?
    Does that mean WWIII isn’t imminent after all ?
    Haven't heard anything about WWIII- the main news around here isn't the dodgy water at the base, it's the possibility that the Bonn police commissioner is working for Dutch drug gangs
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 52,112
    DougSeal said:

    eek said:

    algarkirk said:

    Looking through that list. Good god, it was an absolutely awful election campaign wasn’t it.

    It was politically/intellectually the most bankrupt I can remember; psephologically it was total box office from start to finish; it is possible still that it was the critical election in rejigging the whol;e structure of GB politics. There is not yet any evidence that the Tories have the faintest idea what to do about it.
    The efficiency of the anti-Tory centre/left flank was a sight to behold especially when you consider how many votes Labour lost to lefter wing parties (either the Gazza independents or the Greens).
    "Gazza" independents? Can someone make a joke about the former England, Newcastle, Spurs, Lazio and Rangers player for me please?
    Did you hear about Paul Gascoigne's charity run for the children of Israel and Palestine?

    He'll be wearing his Gazza Strip.
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 22,379
    edited August 14
    [deleted. I am stupid]
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 28,888
    ...
    Eabhal said:

    STONEHENGE IS SCOTTISH

    BBC News - Famous Stonehenge stone came from Scotland not Wales
    https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c207lqdn755o

    ahahahaha

    That makes more sense.

    Pembrokeshire to Amesbury and no Second Severn Crossing, no Severn Bridge, no bridge over the Severn at Gloucester, Worcester or Shrewsbury. I think not!
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 34,805

    ...

    Eabhal said:

    STONEHENGE IS SCOTTISH

    BBC News - Famous Stonehenge stone came from Scotland not Wales
    https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c207lqdn755o

    ahahahaha

    That makes more sense.

    Pembrokeshire to Amesbury and no Second Severn Crossing, no Severn Bridge, no bridge over the Severn at Gloucester, Worcester or Shrewsbury. I think not!
    And no A303 tunnel in those days either; although I believe it was in the plans.
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 34,805
    edited August 14
    kamski said:

    Nigelb said:

    kamski said:

    Nigelb said:

    German Luftwaffe base Koeln-Wahn cordoned off after a suspected breach of security. Personnel advised to not use tap water on base. Hole in fence found by security personnel.

    The base is notable for housing Flugbereitschaft aircraft & as logistics hub.

    https://x.com/AlexLuck9/status/1823666235823075743

    I’m sure it’s nothing to worry about…

    Bild now reporting Geilenkirchen air base also sealed off with similar issue reported. Geilenkirchen houses the NATO AWACS-fleet.
    https://x.com/AlexLuck9/status/1823697762258706943

    Bild seems to have got Geilenkirchen wrong
    In what way ?
    Does that mean WWIII isn’t imminent after all ?
    https://www.zeit.de/gesellschaft/2024-08/bundeswehr-nato-sabotageverdacht-geilenkirchen-entwarnung

    The base wasn't sealed off, but someone was prevented from entering. The base was 'routinely searched', the water was tested, nothing was found, and the base continued to operate normally.
    But this is August and the Olympics are over, so any news story will do.

    They'll be coming up with one about Stonehenge being Scottish next.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 72,172

    ...

    Eabhal said:

    STONEHENGE IS SCOTTISH

    BBC News - Famous Stonehenge stone came from Scotland not Wales
    https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c207lqdn755o

    ahahahaha

    That makes more sense.

    Pembrokeshire to Amesbury and no Second Severn Crossing, no Severn Bridge, no bridge over the Severn at Gloucester, Worcester or Shrewsbury. I think not!
    You need to read the story.
    The takeaway is that it’s stone from all three nations.

    As I said, Stonehenge is a druidic prophesy of the Union.
    All that garbage about astronomy is just for the tabloids…
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 42,632
    From PT re Pre-Cog, it wasn't my intention for the question of whether the police should exploit tech to catch uninsured drivers to become conflated with the issues explored in the film Minority Report. I don't know why that happened and I'm sorry that it did.

    Fwiw, on reflection I think there's a tweak we can make (re Pre-Cog) that should satisfy the various critics (in particular Pagan). Which is, the perp is not punished. They haven't done the crime after all so why should they be? They are detained for an hour or so, tea and a biscuit, then sent on their way.

    They'll soon get sick of that happening every time they plan a gruesome murder.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,956
    Nigelb said:

    ...

    Eabhal said:

    STONEHENGE IS SCOTTISH

    BBC News - Famous Stonehenge stone came from Scotland not Wales
    https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c207lqdn755o

    ahahahaha

    That makes more sense.

    Pembrokeshire to Amesbury and no Second Severn Crossing, no Severn Bridge, no bridge over the Severn at Gloucester, Worcester or Shrewsbury. I think not!
    You need to read the story.
    The takeaway is that it’s stone from all three nations.

    As I said, Stonehenge is a druidic prophesy of the Union.
    All that garbage about astronomy is just for the tabloids…
    So what you’re saying is Better Together?
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,956
    Still no new regular visitors from Moscow.

    I guess they must have been conscripted.

    Kyiv bombards Russian air base 400 miles from the border

    Locals report at least 10 explosions in Nizhny Novgorod region in Ukraine’s largest drone strike since war began


    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2024/08/14/ukraine-russia-war-airbases-counterstrike/
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 22,379
    Nigelb said:

    Eabhal said:

    Nigelb said:

    Eabhal said:

    STONEHENGE IS SCOTTISH

    BBC News - Famous Stonehenge stone came from Scotland not Wales
    https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c207lqdn755o

    ahahahaha

    Will Scotland demand its return ?
    Team up with the Greeks.

    Jokes aside, it's astonishing how influential the area around Orkney was. A real cradle of civilisation. I strongly recommend PBers spend a week up there (preferably by bike), and make sure you visit some of the smaller islands.
    Amphibious bike ?
    Seems ambitious even for a DuraAce.
    No Mr NigelB, I expect you to...use a wetbike?

    https://youtu.be/XSRHLy3kw-Q?si=zxz-g1L9dutoFcrE&t=55
  • kamskikamski Posts: 5,208
    Nigelb said:

    ...

    Eabhal said:

    STONEHENGE IS SCOTTISH

    BBC News - Famous Stonehenge stone came from Scotland not Wales
    https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c207lqdn755o

    ahahahaha

    That makes more sense.

    Pembrokeshire to Amesbury and no Second Severn Crossing, no Severn Bridge, no bridge over the Severn at Gloucester, Worcester or Shrewsbury. I think not!
    You need to read the story.
    The takeaway is that it’s stone from all three nations.

    As I said, Stonehenge is a druidic prophesy of the Union.
    All that garbage about astronomy is just for the tabloids…
    "The altar stone found to be from Scotland lies flat and buried under two fallen sarsen stones and is barely visible to visitors."

    What does that foretell???
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 72,172
    kamski said:

    Nigelb said:

    ...

    Eabhal said:

    STONEHENGE IS SCOTTISH

    BBC News - Famous Stonehenge stone came from Scotland not Wales
    https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c207lqdn755o

    ahahahaha

    That makes more sense.

    Pembrokeshire to Amesbury and no Second Severn Crossing, no Severn Bridge, no bridge over the Severn at Gloucester, Worcester or Shrewsbury. I think not!
    You need to read the story.
    The takeaway is that it’s stone from all three nations.

    As I said, Stonehenge is a druidic prophesy of the Union.
    All that garbage about astronomy is just for the tabloids…
    "The altar stone found to be from Scotland lies flat and buried under two fallen sarsen stones and is barely visible to visitors."

    What does that foretell???
    These druidic prophesies are notoriously unreliable.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 72,172
    kamski said:

    Nigelb said:

    kamski said:

    Nigelb said:

    German Luftwaffe base Koeln-Wahn cordoned off after a suspected breach of security. Personnel advised to not use tap water on base. Hole in fence found by security personnel.

    The base is notable for housing Flugbereitschaft aircraft & as logistics hub.

    https://x.com/AlexLuck9/status/1823666235823075743

    I’m sure it’s nothing to worry about…

    Bild now reporting Geilenkirchen air base also sealed off with similar issue reported. Geilenkirchen houses the NATO AWACS-fleet.
    https://x.com/AlexLuck9/status/1823697762258706943

    Bild seems to have got Geilenkirchen wrong
    In what way ?
    Does that mean WWIII isn’t imminent after all ?
    Haven't heard anything about WWIII- the main news around here isn't the dodgy water at the base, it's the possibility that the Bonn police commissioner is working for Dutch drug gangs
    A few Tom Clancy fans were getting quite excited.
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 18,895
    eek said:

    algarkirk said:

    Looking through that list. Good god, it was an absolutely awful election campaign wasn’t it.

    It was politically/intellectually the most bankrupt I can remember; psephologically it was total box office from start to finish; it is possible still that it was the critical election in rejigging the whol;e structure of GB politics. There is not yet any evidence that the Tories have the faintest idea what to do about it.
    The efficiency of the anti-Tory centre/left flank was a sight to behold especially when you consider how many votes Labour lost to lefter wing parties (either the Gazza independents or the Greens).
    The anti-Tory vote didn't need to be very efficient when the Tories received less than one quarter of the vote.
  • No_Offence_AlanNo_Offence_Alan Posts: 4,585
    Nigelb said:

    My photo of the day.



    You had him over for afternoon tea and trampolining ?
    Wouldn't the tea spill?
  • eekeek Posts: 28,585
    FPT

    New state polls from Cook Political

    https://www.270towin.com/polls/latest-2024-presidential-election-polls/

    Based on full slate
    Wisconsin H48% T43%
    Pennsylvania H48% T43%
    Nevada H42% T47%
    North Carolina H46% T44%
    Michigan H46% T44%
    Georgia T46% T46%
    Arizona H46% T42%

    So Trump only ahead in Nevada

    Must be an outlier! (The Nevada poll, I mean obvs.)
    @rcs1000 has pointed out in the past that Nevada has very large mortgages so people may be feeling far less affluent there than other States.
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 42,141
    Nigelb said:

    ...

    Eabhal said:

    STONEHENGE IS SCOTTISH

    BBC News - Famous Stonehenge stone came from Scotland not Wales
    https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c207lqdn755o

    ahahahaha

    That makes more sense.

    Pembrokeshire to Amesbury and no Second Severn Crossing, no Severn Bridge, no bridge over the Severn at Gloucester, Worcester or Shrewsbury. I think not!
    You need to read the story.
    The takeaway is that it’s stone from all three nations.

    As I said, Stonehenge is a druidic prophesy of the Union.
    All that garbage about astronomy is just for the tabloids…
    Sounds like something Neil Oliver might come up with.

    I'm old enough to remember 'Nats' getting pelters for saying Oliver was an ahistorical loony. How wrong we were..
  • kinabalu said:

    From PT re Pre-Cog, it wasn't my intention for the question of whether the police should exploit tech to catch uninsured drivers to become conflated with the issues explored in the film Minority Report. I don't know why that happened and I'm sorry that it did.

    Fwiw, on reflection I think there's a tweak we can make (re Pre-Cog) that should satisfy the various critics (in particular Pagan). Which is, the perp is not punished. They haven't done the crime after all so why should they be? They are detained for an hour or so, tea and a biscuit, then sent on their way.

    They'll soon get sick of that happening every time they plan a gruesome murder.

    So, Kinabalu is out walking his cat (it's a big lad and needs the exercise.) You bump into Leon, who insults your pussy. In a fit of rage, you punch Leon. He's been in a posh restaurant and is a bit worse for wear, he bumps his swede and is stone cold dead.
    In your world, did you get a knock on your door and your collar felt just before you took your pussy out? You never planned the killing, so will your tech work?
  • malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 43,495

    Nigelb said:

    ...

    Eabhal said:

    STONEHENGE IS SCOTTISH

    BBC News - Famous Stonehenge stone came from Scotland not Wales
    https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c207lqdn755o

    ahahahaha

    That makes more sense.

    Pembrokeshire to Amesbury and no Second Severn Crossing, no Severn Bridge, no bridge over the Severn at Gloucester, Worcester or Shrewsbury. I think not!
    You need to read the story.
    The takeaway is that it’s stone from all three nations.

    As I said, Stonehenge is a druidic prophesy of the Union.
    All that garbage about astronomy is just for the tabloids…
    So what you’re saying is Better Together?
    Bitter more like
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,956
    malcolmg said:

    Nigelb said:

    ...

    Eabhal said:

    STONEHENGE IS SCOTTISH

    BBC News - Famous Stonehenge stone came from Scotland not Wales
    https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c207lqdn755o

    ahahahaha

    That makes more sense.

    Pembrokeshire to Amesbury and no Second Severn Crossing, no Severn Bridge, no bridge over the Severn at Gloucester, Worcester or Shrewsbury. I think not!
    You need to read the story.
    The takeaway is that it’s stone from all three nations.

    As I said, Stonehenge is a druidic prophesy of the Union.
    All that garbage about astronomy is just for the tabloids…
    So what you’re saying is Better Together?
    Bitter more like
    55% - 45%

    In your face.
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 18,895

    kinabalu said:

    From PT re Pre-Cog, it wasn't my intention for the question of whether the police should exploit tech to catch uninsured drivers to become conflated with the issues explored in the film Minority Report. I don't know why that happened and I'm sorry that it did.

    Fwiw, on reflection I think there's a tweak we can make (re Pre-Cog) that should satisfy the various critics (in particular Pagan). Which is, the perp is not punished. They haven't done the crime after all so why should they be? They are detained for an hour or so, tea and a biscuit, then sent on their way.

    They'll soon get sick of that happening every time they plan a gruesome murder.

    So, Kinabalu is out walking his cat (it's a big lad and needs the exercise.) You bump into Leon, who insults your pussy. In a fit of rage, you punch Leon. He's been in a posh restaurant and is a bit worse for wear, he bumps his swede and is stone cold dead.
    In your world, did you get a knock on your door and your collar felt just before you took your pussy out? You never planned the killing, so will your tech work?
    Surely the coppers in this case only need to innocently encounter the cat-walker before the incident, and delay him with compliments to his feline. Then it never happens.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 32,945
    Latest polling average from Economist

    Harris 47.8%
    Trump 45.0%

    https://www.economist.com/interactive/us-2024-election/trump-harris-polls
  • FairlieredFairliered Posts: 5,053
    Eabhal said:

    STONEHENGE IS SCOTTISH

    BBC News - Famous Stonehenge stone came from Scotland not Wales
    https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c207lqdn755o

    ahahahaha

    If we take it back, you can save the cost of a tunnel on the A303. Alternatively, it could be located on the border, next to Rory’s cairn.
  • malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 43,495

    malcolmg said:

    Nigelb said:

    ...

    Eabhal said:

    STONEHENGE IS SCOTTISH

    BBC News - Famous Stonehenge stone came from Scotland not Wales
    https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c207lqdn755o

    ahahahaha

    That makes more sense.

    Pembrokeshire to Amesbury and no Second Severn Crossing, no Severn Bridge, no bridge over the Severn at Gloucester, Worcester or Shrewsbury. I think not!
    You need to read the story.
    The takeaway is that it’s stone from all three nations.

    As I said, Stonehenge is a druidic prophesy of the Union.
    All that garbage about astronomy is just for the tabloids…
    So what you’re saying is Better Together?
    Bitter more like
    55% - 45%

    In your face.
    It was rigged by lying toerags, only carpetbaggers and thick Europeans got it over the line
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,956
    malcolmg said:

    malcolmg said:

    Nigelb said:

    ...

    Eabhal said:

    STONEHENGE IS SCOTTISH

    BBC News - Famous Stonehenge stone came from Scotland not Wales
    https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c207lqdn755o

    ahahahaha

    That makes more sense.

    Pembrokeshire to Amesbury and no Second Severn Crossing, no Severn Bridge, no bridge over the Severn at Gloucester, Worcester or Shrewsbury. I think not!
    You need to read the story.
    The takeaway is that it’s stone from all three nations.

    As I said, Stonehenge is a druidic prophesy of the Union.
    All that garbage about astronomy is just for the tabloids…
    So what you’re saying is Better Together?
    Bitter more like
    55% - 45%

    In your face.
    It was rigged by lying toerags, only carpetbaggers and thick Europeans got it over the line
    You are such a sore loser, no wonder you lost.
  • Pagan2Pagan2 Posts: 9,990

    kinabalu said:

    From PT re Pre-Cog, it wasn't my intention for the question of whether the police should exploit tech to catch uninsured drivers to become conflated with the issues explored in the film Minority Report. I don't know why that happened and I'm sorry that it did.

    Fwiw, on reflection I think there's a tweak we can make (re Pre-Cog) that should satisfy the various critics (in particular Pagan). Which is, the perp is not punished. They haven't done the crime after all so why should they be? They are detained for an hour or so, tea and a biscuit, then sent on their way.

    They'll soon get sick of that happening every time they plan a gruesome murder.

    So, Kinabalu is out walking his cat (it's a big lad and needs the exercise.) You bump into Leon, who insults your pussy. In a fit of rage, you punch Leon. He's been in a posh restaurant and is a bit worse for wear, he bumps his swede and is stone cold dead.
    In your world, did you get a knock on your door and your collar felt just before you took your pussy out? You never planned the killing, so will your tech work?
    Surely the coppers in this case only need to innocently encounter the cat-walker before the incident, and delay him with compliments to his feline. Then it never happens.
    You mean like "Kinablu you have a beautiful pussy"?
  • FairlieredFairliered Posts: 5,053
    malcolmg said:

    malcolmg said:

    Nigelb said:

    ...

    Eabhal said:

    STONEHENGE IS SCOTTISH

    BBC News - Famous Stonehenge stone came from Scotland not Wales
    https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c207lqdn755o

    ahahahaha

    That makes more sense.

    Pembrokeshire to Amesbury and no Second Severn Crossing, no Severn Bridge, no bridge over the Severn at Gloucester, Worcester or Shrewsbury. I think not!
    You need to read the story.
    The takeaway is that it’s stone from all three nations.

    As I said, Stonehenge is a druidic prophesy of the Union.
    All that garbage about astronomy is just for the tabloids…
    So what you’re saying is Better Together?
    Bitter more like
    55% - 45%

    In your face.
    It was rigged by lying toerags, only carpetbaggers and thick Europeans got it over the line
    Thick “proud Scots but” also helped it over the line.
  • FairlieredFairliered Posts: 5,053

    malcolmg said:

    malcolmg said:

    Nigelb said:

    ...

    Eabhal said:

    STONEHENGE IS SCOTTISH

    BBC News - Famous Stonehenge stone came from Scotland not Wales
    https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c207lqdn755o

    ahahahaha

    That makes more sense.

    Pembrokeshire to Amesbury and no Second Severn Crossing, no Severn Bridge, no bridge over the Severn at Gloucester, Worcester or Shrewsbury. I think not!
    You need to read the story.
    The takeaway is that it’s stone from all three nations.

    As I said, Stonehenge is a druidic prophesy of the Union.
    All that garbage about astronomy is just for the tabloids…
    So what you’re saying is Better Together?
    Bitter more like
    55% - 45%

    In your face.
    It was rigged by lying toerags, only carpetbaggers and thick Europeans got it over the line
    Thick “proud Scots but” also helped it over the line.
    Talking about thick Scots, here’s the latest from the Scottish Tory leadership campaign. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cy54np2wxy3o
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 72,172
    Frank Luntz just fell out with the MAGA crowd.
    Now everybody hates him.

    "She's bringing out people who are not interested in voting for either Trump or Biden, so the entire electoral pool has changed," says @FrankLuntz of VP Harris. "She's got an intensity advantage, and I haven't seen anything like this happen in 30 days in my lifetime."..
    https://x.com/SquawkCNBC/status/1823680189542346793
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 34,805
    malcolmg said:

    malcolmg said:

    Nigelb said:

    ...

    Eabhal said:

    STONEHENGE IS SCOTTISH

    BBC News - Famous Stonehenge stone came from Scotland not Wales
    https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c207lqdn755o

    ahahahaha

    That makes more sense.

    Pembrokeshire to Amesbury and no Second Severn Crossing, no Severn Bridge, no bridge over the Severn at Gloucester, Worcester or Shrewsbury. I think not!
    You need to read the story.
    The takeaway is that it’s stone from all three nations.

    As I said, Stonehenge is a druidic prophesy of the Union.
    All that garbage about astronomy is just for the tabloids…
    So what you’re saying is Better Together?
    Bitter more like
    55% - 45%

    In your face.
    It was rigged by lying toerags, only carpetbaggers and thick Europeans got it over the line
    Another 'stolen' vote, eh?
  • Eabhal said:

    STONEHENGE IS SCOTTISH

    BBC News - Famous Stonehenge stone came from Scotland not Wales
    https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c207lqdn755o

    ahahahaha

    If we take it back, you can save the cost of a tunnel on the A303. Alternatively, it could be located on the border, next to Rory’s cairn.
    You can have Stonehenge, but you're not taking Avebury
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,956

    Eabhal said:

    STONEHENGE IS SCOTTISH

    BBC News - Famous Stonehenge stone came from Scotland not Wales
    https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c207lqdn755o

    ahahahaha

    If we take it back, you can save the cost of a tunnel on the A303. Alternatively, it could be located on the border, next to Rory’s cairn.
    You can have Stonehenge, but you're not taking Avebury
    I want the turd hotel.
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 43,330
    Eabhal said:

    Nigelb said:

    Eabhal said:

    STONEHENGE IS SCOTTISH

    BBC News - Famous Stonehenge stone came from Scotland not Wales
    https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c207lqdn755o

    ahahahaha

    Will Scotland demand its return ?
    Team up with the Greeks.

    Jokes aside, it's astonishing how influential the area around Orkney was. A real cradle of civilisation. I strongly recommend PBers spend a week up there (preferably by bike), and make sure you visit some of the smaller islands.
    Probly from Wick, Latheronwheel, that sort of airt. No need to mess around with the Pentland Firth tideraces.
  • DriverDriver Posts: 4,974
    malcolmg said:

    malcolmg said:

    Nigelb said:

    ...

    Eabhal said:

    STONEHENGE IS SCOTTISH

    BBC News - Famous Stonehenge stone came from Scotland not Wales
    https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c207lqdn755o

    ahahahaha

    That makes more sense.

    Pembrokeshire to Amesbury and no Second Severn Crossing, no Severn Bridge, no bridge over the Severn at Gloucester, Worcester or Shrewsbury. I think not!
    You need to read the story.
    The takeaway is that it’s stone from all three nations.

    As I said, Stonehenge is a druidic prophesy of the Union.
    All that garbage about astronomy is just for the tabloids…
    So what you’re saying is Better Together?
    Bitter more like
    55% - 45%

    In your face.
    It was rigged by lying toerags, only carpetbaggers and thick Europeans got it over the line
    Indeed, no true Scotsman voted "no"...
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 43,330
    edited August 14

    Eabhal said:

    STONEHENGE IS SCOTTISH

    BBC News - Famous Stonehenge stone came from Scotland not Wales
    https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c207lqdn755o

    ahahahaha

    If we take it back, you can save the cost of a tunnel on the A303. Alternatively, it could be located on the border, next to Rory’s cairn.
    You can have Stonehenge, but you're not taking Avebury
    I want the turd hotel.
    Just noticed this the other day. The two restaurants moswt beautiful in the world or whatever, marketed with the finest view of Edinburgh etc etc. *And* they are in something I've never heard of, called the W Hotel. Which is ...

    https://www.worcesternews.co.uk/news/24508027.scottish-restaurants-named-among-worlds-beautiful/


    https://www.marriott.com/en-us/hotels/ediwh-w-edinburgh/photos/
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,709
    Leicestershire are annoyingly waltzing to victory, having been 1/2 after 2 overs.

    Just had to be the first day I got to Bristol in ten years.

    (They’ve been helped by some umpiring that has been rather friendly to them on wides and no-balls.)
  • malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 43,495

    malcolmg said:

    malcolmg said:

    Nigelb said:

    ...

    Eabhal said:

    STONEHENGE IS SCOTTISH

    BBC News - Famous Stonehenge stone came from Scotland not Wales
    https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c207lqdn755o

    ahahahaha

    That makes more sense.

    Pembrokeshire to Amesbury and no Second Severn Crossing, no Severn Bridge, no bridge over the Severn at Gloucester, Worcester or Shrewsbury. I think not!
    You need to read the story.
    The takeaway is that it’s stone from all three nations.

    As I said, Stonehenge is a druidic prophesy of the Union.
    All that garbage about astronomy is just for the tabloids…
    So what you’re saying is Better Together?
    Bitter more like
    55% - 45%

    In your face.
    It was rigged by lying toerags, only carpetbaggers and thick Europeans got it over the line
    You are such a sore loser, no wonder you lost.
    gracious winners as ever
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,709

    malcolmg said:

    malcolmg said:

    Nigelb said:

    ...

    Eabhal said:

    STONEHENGE IS SCOTTISH

    BBC News - Famous Stonehenge stone came from Scotland not Wales
    https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c207lqdn755o

    ahahahaha

    That makes more sense.

    Pembrokeshire to Amesbury and no Second Severn Crossing, no Severn Bridge, no bridge over the Severn at Gloucester, Worcester or Shrewsbury. I think not!
    You need to read the story.
    The takeaway is that it’s stone from all three nations.

    As I said, Stonehenge is a druidic prophesy of the Union.
    All that garbage about astronomy is just for the tabloids…
    So what you’re saying is Better Together?
    Bitter more like
    55% - 45%

    In your face.
    It was rigged by lying toerags, only carpetbaggers and thick Europeans got it over the line
    Another 'stolen' vote, eh?
    Let’s stick to stolen stones.

    Although that might make us Sconers.
  • RazedabodeRazedabode Posts: 3,032

    Eabhal said:

    STONEHENGE IS SCOTTISH

    BBC News - Famous Stonehenge stone came from Scotland not Wales
    https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c207lqdn755o

    ahahahaha

    If we take it back, you can save the cost of a tunnel on the A303. Alternatively, it could be located on the border, next to Rory’s cairn.
    You can have Stonehenge, but you're not taking Avebury
    I want the turd hotel.
    Katie Price might be able to help you with that one
  • malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 43,495
    Driver said:

    malcolmg said:

    malcolmg said:

    Nigelb said:

    ...

    Eabhal said:

    STONEHENGE IS SCOTTISH

    BBC News - Famous Stonehenge stone came from Scotland not Wales
    https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c207lqdn755o

    ahahahaha

    That makes more sense.

    Pembrokeshire to Amesbury and no Second Severn Crossing, no Severn Bridge, no bridge over the Severn at Gloucester, Worcester or Shrewsbury. I think not!
    You need to read the story.
    The takeaway is that it’s stone from all three nations.

    As I said, Stonehenge is a druidic prophesy of the Union.
    All that garbage about astronomy is just for the tabloids…
    So what you’re saying is Better Together?
    Bitter more like
    55% - 45%

    In your face.
    It was rigged by lying toerags, only carpetbaggers and thick Europeans got it over the line
    Indeed, no true Scotsman voted "no"...
    Plenty of dumb ones did for sure along with the lickspittles.
  • malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 43,495

    malcolmg said:

    malcolmg said:

    Nigelb said:

    ...

    Eabhal said:

    STONEHENGE IS SCOTTISH

    BBC News - Famous Stonehenge stone came from Scotland not Wales
    https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c207lqdn755o

    ahahahaha

    That makes more sense.

    Pembrokeshire to Amesbury and no Second Severn Crossing, no Severn Bridge, no bridge over the Severn at Gloucester, Worcester or Shrewsbury. I think not!
    You need to read the story.
    The takeaway is that it’s stone from all three nations.

    As I said, Stonehenge is a druidic prophesy of the Union.
    All that garbage about astronomy is just for the tabloids…
    So what you’re saying is Better Together?
    Bitter more like
    55% - 45%

    In your face.
    It was rigged by lying toerags, only carpetbaggers and thick Europeans got it over the line
    Another 'stolen' vote, eh?
    It is how colonial rulers and dictatorships do it, works for a while too. we are twins of Venezuala, Russia , Belarus, Iran and others of that ilk.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,709
    Overheard during change of overs:

    ‘Not bothered about this stuff, all Mickey Mouse, innit? Second in the Championship, that’s what I want.’

    Not overheard:

    Any mention of the Hundred.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,709
    Hmmm.

    Maybe given that ball I didn’t see only just missed me, I should pay more attention to the cricket and less to PB
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 51,082
    malcolmg said:

    malcolmg said:

    malcolmg said:

    Nigelb said:

    ...

    Eabhal said:

    STONEHENGE IS SCOTTISH

    BBC News - Famous Stonehenge stone came from Scotland not Wales
    https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c207lqdn755o

    ahahahaha

    That makes more sense.

    Pembrokeshire to Amesbury and no Second Severn Crossing, no Severn Bridge, no bridge over the Severn at Gloucester, Worcester or Shrewsbury. I think not!
    You need to read the story.
    The takeaway is that it’s stone from all three nations.

    As I said, Stonehenge is a druidic prophesy of the Union.
    All that garbage about astronomy is just for the tabloids…
    So what you’re saying is Better Together?
    Bitter more like
    55% - 45%

    In your face.
    It was rigged by lying toerags, only carpetbaggers and thick Europeans got it over the line
    Another 'stolen' vote, eh?
    It is how colonial rulers and dictatorships do it, works for a while too. we are twins of Venezuala, Russia , Belarus, Iran and others of that ilk.
    Dude...


  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,956
    I see Scottish Nationalists are lying, again.

    SNP claims it had ‘no choice’ but to copy Reeves and cut winter fuel payments for 900,000 pensioners

    Social Justice Secretary confirms the benefit will be means-tested as she blames UK Chancellor for decision


    Almost a million Scottish pensioners are to lose out on winter fuel payments from this year after SNP ministers claimed they had “no choice” but to copy the Chancellor’s decision south of the border.

    Shirley-Anne Somerville, the SNP Social Justice Secretary, said the payment of between £100 and £300 would now only go to pensioners who receive benefits rather than all retirees.

    She placed the blame on the decision by Rachel Reeves to means-test the payment in England and Wales, which she said would lead to a cut of up to £160 million in the Scottish Government’s funding.

    Ms Somerville’s complaints were echoed by Kate Forbes, the Deputy First Minister, who accused the new Labour UK Government of ignoring “the disproportionate importance of this payment to households in Scotland” thanks to its colder climate.

    But Age Scotland, a charity, said SNP ministers had the power to keep the payment universal, with control over the benefit being devolved to them next month.

    Adam Stachura, the charity’s policy director, warned the move would lead to hundreds of thousands of Scottish pensioners “who live in some of the coldest homes in the UK” struggling to pay their energy bills.


    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/08/14/pensioners-winter-fuel-payments-scotland-rachel-reeves/
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,956
    Somebody call 999 because Adam Crafton just burned Liz Truss.

    “I won’t stand for it.” You do know you are a mere citizen now. Please contact your local mp

    https://x.com/AdamCrafton_/status/1823764408733978666
  • MattWMattW Posts: 23,879
    Brains Trust.

    This is far righters at I think the Tommy Robinson demo, chanting "we want our country back."

    Can anyone help me with the symbology / organisations.

    I can see the Union Flag, England Flag.

    What is the Black top/White bottom flag with the red maltese(?) cross central?

    What is the "British Youth" Union Flag. I think the middle slogan is Christ is King, which is the current far right Christian Nationalist shtick.

    Thanks. I'm looking into the "I want my country back" slogan which has been all over Lee Anderson's social media channels for weeks.

    https://youtu.be/eQhLMSlf_R8?t=38
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,956
    edited August 14

    Eabhal said:

    STONEHENGE IS SCOTTISH

    BBC News - Famous Stonehenge stone came from Scotland not Wales
    https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c207lqdn755o

    ahahahaha

    If we take it back, you can save the cost of a tunnel on the A303. Alternatively, it could be located on the border, next to Rory’s cairn.
    You can have Stonehenge, but you're not taking Avebury
    I want the turd hotel.
    Katie Price might be able to help you with that one
    Sadly one of my friends sent me that image.

    I cannot believe a 27 year old friendship ended because of that woman.
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 50,144

    KnightOut said:

    The stunts only worked for Ed Davey because very few people actually dislike him.

    If it had been, say, Boris doing exactly the same stuff there would've been an endless barrage of criticism, comments about 'buffoonery' and not taking the election seriously and so on

    The woman who stood against Davey 'because of his treatment of Alan Bates' didn't seem to get much traction, either.
    Read Nick Wallis’s blog, and it would appear that Greg Clark’s failings were the more egregious.
  • kamskikamski Posts: 5,208
    MattW said:

    Brains Trust.

    This is far righters at I think the Tommy Robinson demo, chanting "we want our country back."

    Can anyone help me with the symbology / organisations.

    I can see the Union Flag, England Flag.

    What is the Black top/White bottom flag with the red maltese(?) cross central?

    What is the "British Youth" Union Flag. I think the middle slogan is Christ is King, which is the current far right Christian Nationalist shtick.

    Thanks. I'm looking into the "I want my country back" slogan which has been all over Lee Anderson's social media channels for weeks.

    https://youtu.be/eQhLMSlf_R8?t=38

    Knights Templar were crusaders?
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 42,141
    MattW said:

    Brains Trust.

    This is far righters at I think the Tommy Robinson demo, chanting "we want our country back."

    Can anyone help me with the symbology / organisations.

    I can see the Union Flag, England Flag.

    What is the Black top/White bottom flag with the red maltese(?) cross central?

    What is the "British Youth" Union Flag. I think the middle slogan is Christ is King, which is the current far right Christian Nationalist shtick.

    Thanks. I'm looking into the "I want my country back" slogan which has been all over Lee Anderson's social media channels for weeks.

    https://youtu.be/eQhLMSlf_R8?t=38

    They’re certainly followers of the British Union Flag.
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 26,220

    Somebody call 999 because Adam Crafton just burned Liz Truss.

    “I won’t stand for it.” You do know you are a mere citizen now. Please contact your local mp

    https://x.com/AdamCrafton_/status/1823764408733978666

    That cuts both ways, of course.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 49,112
    I see the news travels fast. Trump was asked to pay up front for his rally in the smaller of Asheville NC arenas:

    https://www.newsweek.com/trump-campaign-forced-pay-north-carolina-city-82k-advance-rally-1938769
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 26,220
    The Sky News reporter covering the Liz Truss "story" at lunch today was struggling to come up with an angle for why this was newsworthy. He mentioned security, but you could tell he knew that wasn't why it was getting air time.
  • MattWMattW Posts: 23,879

    MattW said:

    Brains Trust.

    This is far righters at I think the Tommy Robinson demo, chanting "we want our country back."

    Can anyone help me with the symbology / organisations.

    I can see the Union Flag, England Flag.

    What is the Black top/White bottom flag with the red maltese(?) cross central?

    What is the "British Youth" Union Flag. I think the middle slogan is Christ is King, which is the current far right Christian Nationalist shtick.

    Thanks. I'm looking into the "I want my country back" slogan which has been all over Lee Anderson's social media channels for weeks.

    https://youtu.be/eQhLMSlf_R8?t=38

    They’re certainly followers of the British Union Flag.
    Not very Buff, though.
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