It's a bit weird that the French did not want to borrow the Victory for their flotilla down the Seine. After all, it was originally a French ship.
Victory was built at Chatham Dockyard in 1758.
I think you might be confusing it with Temeraire, which wasn’t French but was named after a captured French 74.
No - Victory was ordered in 1758. She wasn’t launched until 1765.
Didn’t know that.
Good to know government procurement was just as inept in the 18th century as it is now.
You had to find enough trees for a very large vessel TBF.
Slow building was considered better building. Some ships were started and stopped a number of times, spending many years on the slips.
Contrary to some movies, the number of men actually working on a wooden ship at any one time could be quite small. IIRC from DK Brown, a few dozen would do much of the building of a 74 - multiple years of work for them.
Mr. Malmesbury, it only took the Romans a few months to knock up fleets in the First Punic War. Mind you, they lost literally hundreds of thousands of men to storms, so...
I thought that was a requirement of a Conservative leadership campaign ?
Nowadays ‘dirty tricks’ seem to include the dastardly act of reporting stuff wot people said. At least some of Kemi’s martyrdom seems to consist of that kind of thing. She’ll always be ‘morally panicking over imaginary pupils identifying as cats’ woman to me.
If this sabotage continues and “succeeds” then it could be the end of the Games as we know them. Who would ever want to host if there’s a major chance of disaster?
Short memory there @Leon . Do you not remember Munich? The biggest deterrent is the cost, but people now seem to be more realistic and the games are better for it. I was concerned for London for both cost and terrorist reasons, but we pulled off an excellent games. I guess a combination of (surprising) skill and luck.
Re your post on where you are in France. I went there and loved it and not a tourist in sight, but that was 25 years ago, so now probably pretty meaningless, but glad you seem to have found it similar.
Indeed.
Its a dick waving contest to host.
I'd imagine all the oil & gas middle east states are absolutely desperate to hold it. Probably think they could host the winter olympics as well.
I thought that was a requirement of a Conservative leadership campaign ?
Nowadays ‘dirty tricks’ seem to include the dastardly act of reporting stuff wot people said. At least some of Kemi’s martyrdom seems to consist of that kind of thing. She’ll always be ‘morally panicking over imaginary pupils identifying as cats’ woman to me.
Mr. Malmesbury, it only took the Romans a few months to knock up fleets in the First Punic War. Mind you, they lost literally hundreds of thousands of men to storms, so...
And on that cheery note, I must be off.
They were building galleys - which were lightly built and didn't last very long anyway. Giant row boats really.
I thought that was a requirement of a Conservative leadership campaign ?
Nowadays ‘dirty tricks’ seem to include the dastardly act of reporting stuff wot people said. At least some of Kemi’s martyrdom seems to consist of that kind of thing. She’ll always be ‘morally panicking over imaginary pupils identifying as cats’ woman to me.
Windies 5 down as Hodge goes. Not looking good for an extended match.
76/0 to 115/5 is a hell of a collapse after a good start.
Who would buy tickets for days 4 or 5 of an England test match?
Our bowlers are wildly good flat track bullies facing inferior opposition, and our batsmen tend to get about 400 relatively quickly (And then out). It's not a good combination for getting a test to day 5.
I'm no fan of Trump, and I'd be pleased to see him beaten. But I'm asking what was the reasoning behind pushing Biden to stay on despite his illness? And more importantly, his obvious illness. It meant that Kamala took a back seat. I don't have a medical degree, but the optics were bound to get steadily worse.
The mistake is in the way you frane your question. The only person who could decide the matter was Biden himself. No one else was constitutionally able to firce him out against his will.
And the main person pushing him to stay on was his wife. We think in terms of big politcial movements and events but this was an entirely personal family decision - both to stay and eventually to leave. No one else was able to force the matter. Many peoplke, including some on here, have claimed it was nothing more than Jill Biden's reluctance to give up the trappings of First Lady.
I think its more than a bit unfair on Jill.
In my experience denial of decline runs deep and expands to spouses as much as the person in decline.
Perhaps. I do wonder if one of the driving factors is she fears that once he has stepped down as President the decline will be accelerated - which from my sad experience is a common effect when someone in Biden's position then loses the thing that has been driviing them for so long.
Someone who doesn't like Kemi B? Does that narrow it down much?
The main thing it shows is that KB probably isn't the right choice. Partly because she hasn't heard of the Streisand Effect. But mostly because a LotO can't take themselves too seriously, because most of them are in a fundamentally absurd position. Especially when leading a party of 121. I don't think Badenoch is capable of that.
Did you see *where* they did it? Might be the nearest they could get on the spot to a Reinheitsgebot production of Bockbier, for all I know (pace the microbreweries of Seattle etc).
This is on a par with the sort of things that happened in Ireland in 1921.
"France’s train network sabotaged in ‘massive arson attack’ hours ahead of Olympics opening ceremony Services on several routes cancelled after TGV facilities damaged, country’s rail operator says
“SNCF was the victim of several simultaneous malicious acts overnight,” the national train operator said, adding that the attacks affected its Atlantic, northern and eastern lines."
Actually it happened in France before, on the 5th/6th of June 1944.
It was the only language they understood
The Russians are cruising for a hell of a kicking. This more or less open sabotage will lead to blow back. I came back from France yesterday and the mood towards Russia is increasingly hostile. If there is a successful sabotage, I think the DGSE will really go after the organisers as well as the perpetrators.
What makes you think it is the Russians?
Because the French government warned of a direct threat a couple of days ago when they arrested a sleeper agent.
Mr. kjh, yeah, I think the Octagon or whatever they've called it is nearby. It's absolutely crackers.
They've rightly identified that the UAE has thrown money at big projects but those things made sense. In the same way a competition for e-sports can make sense. But making a city that's a line in the northwest of Saudi Arabia is crazy. It's the least efficient shape possible and is already way over the astronomical budget.
I work on Oxagon - the basic project is sound - as are the various resorts - it is just the Line that is unfeasible and dragging everything else down with it...
So Labour say there's a £20,000,000,000 hole in their finances. That's £80,000,000,000 over four years and £3,200 per household. Looks like the Tories underestimated the problem.
Mr. kjh, yeah, I think the Octagon or whatever they've called it is nearby. It's absolutely crackers.
They've rightly identified that the UAE has thrown money at big projects but those things made sense. In the same way a competition for e-sports can make sense. But making a city that's a line in the northwest of Saudi Arabia is crazy. It's the least efficient shape possible and is already way over the astronomical budget.
Oh come on, with a bit of imagination I'm sure we can think of a less efficient shape: a torus perhaps.
"...that the culture wars on university campuses “end here”" - that's rich that it.
By dropping the right to freedom of speech?
More gaslighting.
Shouldn't the government butt out of what policies private companies exempt charities choose to enact on their land?
Or, indeed, let the market decide?
Of course the government could always butt out with all their nasty capitalistic money - ruins academics morals, that.
Sure, but that's market driven, mostly.
The government 'loans' money to students to pay fees that universities are free to set, within limits, and where the students are free to choose where to go, subject to university acceptance.
The government funds research councils to fund research proposals on (subjective, sure) merit.
The government indirectly administers some funding through a general assessment of research excellence.
Now, the government, through its funding bodies, could impose various standards around free speech to be eligible for these funds and that would seem to me entirely reasonable. But if the government actually wants to impose rules directly on universities then they should fund them directly, as they do with schools.
Unless her team is playing 5D chess and it's actually them (not a wholly implausible idea), perhaps @TheScreamingEagles is right, and she really has fallen out with Gove, and with him Williamson and the other 'dark arts' scumbags. If so, I'm not really sure who their chosen candidate could be. Surely not Patel? And surely they can't have any serious hopes in Mel Stride or Cleverly?
It's a bit weird that the French did not want to borrow the Victory for their flotilla down the Seine. After all, it was originally a French ship.
Victory was built at Chatham Dockyard in 1758.
I think you might be confusing it with Temeraire, which wasn’t French but was named after a captured French 74.
No - Victory was ordered in 1758. She wasn’t launched until 1765.
Didn’t know that.
Good to know government procurement was just as inept in the 18th century as it is now.
You had to find enough trees for a very large vessel TBF.
Victory probably wouldn't have lasted so long if French built - the latter tended to be lighter constructed. Pros and cons, but if you were blockading Brest in all weathers, the relative difference made sense for both sides.
I'm no fan of Trump, and I'd be pleased to see him beaten. But I'm asking what was the reasoning behind pushing Biden to stay on despite his illness? And more importantly, his obvious illness. It meant that Kamala took a back seat. I don't have a medical degree, but the optics were bound to get steadily worse.
The mistake is in the way you frane your question. The only person who could decide the matter was Biden himself. No one else was constitutionally able to firce him out against his will.
And the main person pushing him to stay on was his wife. We think in terms of big politcial movements and events but this was an entirely personal family decision - both to stay and eventually to leave. No one else was able to force the matter. Many peoplke, including some on here, have claimed it was nothing more than Jill Biden's reluctance to give up the trappings of First Lady.
I think its more than a bit unfair on Jill.
In my experience denial of decline runs deep and expands to spouses as much as the person in decline.
Perhaps. I do wonder if one of the driving factors is she fears that once he has stepped down as President the decline will be accelerated - which from my sad experience is a common effect when someone in Biden's position then loses the thing that has been driviing them for so long.
That's a much more plausible (and all too realistic) a fear than fear of losing trappings.
What do the Irish fighter pilots drink to celebrate? Ah…
I trust that that is an allusion to Paddy Finucane (1920-1942). I assume he drank Guinness, coming from Rathmines as he did, but he certainly had plenty to celebrate with two or three dozen kills.
NBC 2021: VP Harris will be now leading the administration's efforts at the southern border and with Mexico and the Northern Triangle countries. WH says she'll be focused on stemming the flow of irregular migrants to the US and establishing of a strategic partnership with these countries.
"Regardless of whether the ban is lifted, apprehensions in July are continuing the downward trend, with June already being the lowest of the Biden administration, according to Customs and Border Patrol.
Statistics released by the agency this week showed that such apprehensions decreased by 29% in June, clocking in at 83,536. This compares to 117,901 in May and is the lowest tally since January 2021."
The Biden administration has put a lot of pressure on Mexico and Panama to slow the flow of migrants, and it appears to be having an effect.
My personal view is that there are no "silver bullets", and that you need to have a range of measures in place that include border security, and much better enforcement of proof of right to work in the US.
What do the Irish fighter pilots drink to celebrate? Ah…
I trust that that is an allusion to Paddy Finucane (1920-1942). I assume he drank Guinness, coming from Rathmines as he did, but he certainly had plenty to celebrate with two or three dozen kills.
No, it’s an allusion to the Irish Air Force Corps having no discernible fighter force whatsoever.
I'm about to commence a forensic examination of the state by state WH 2020 results. Been putting it off but I don't think I can hold that position as 5/11 approaches and punditry intensifies.
Windies 5 down as Hodge goes. Not looking good for an extended match.
76/0 to 115/5 is a hell of a collapse after a good start.
Who would buy tickets for days 4 or 5 of an England test match?
I miss the Draw in test cricket. It's a hen's tooth now.
Can't really say that I miss draws but a match that can go either way on the final day as the overs clock down is magical.
But that hanging on for a draw - not out top batsman with the tail - can produce some of the most nail-biting finales. I remember one in the Ashes involving Monty Panesar.
Windies 5 down as Hodge goes. Not looking good for an extended match.
76/0 to 115/5 is a hell of a collapse after a good start.
Who would buy tickets for days 4 or 5 of an England test match?
I miss the Draw in test cricket. It's a hen's tooth now.
Can't really say that I miss draws but a match that can go either way on the final day as the overs clock down is magical.
But that hanging on for a draw - not out top batsman with the tail - can produce some of the most nail-biting finales. I remember one in the Ashes involving Monty Panesar.
Oh yes, I include that in the either way. A draw with plenty of wickets in hand is dull. A draw with bowlers desperately hanging on and a decent batsman trying to farm the strike can be riveting.
Windies 5 down as Hodge goes. Not looking good for an extended match.
76/0 to 115/5 is a hell of a collapse after a good start.
Who would buy tickets for days 4 or 5 of an England test match?
I miss the Draw in test cricket. It's a hen's tooth now.
Can't really say that I miss draws but a match that can go either way on the final day as the overs clock down is magical.
But that hanging on for a draw - not out top batsman with the tail - can produce some of the most nail-biting finales. I remember one in the Ashes involving Monty Panesar.
Oh yes, I include that in the either way. A draw with plenty of wickets in hand is dull. A draw with bowlers desperately hanging on and a decent batsman trying to farm the strike can be riveting.
The last session of a Test match when all three results are still possible, is one of the highlights of watching any sport.
Windies 5 down as Hodge goes. Not looking good for an extended match.
76/0 to 115/5 is a hell of a collapse after a good start.
Who would buy tickets for days 4 or 5 of an England test match?
I miss the Draw in test cricket. It's a hen's tooth now.
Can't really say that I miss draws but a match that can go either way on the final day as the overs clock down is magical.
But that hanging on for a draw - not out top batsman with the tail - can produce some of the most nail-biting finales. I remember one in the Ashes involving Monty Panesar.
I watched Jimmy Anderson bat for about 3 hours at Headingley a few years ago against Sri Lanka in an attempt to stave off defeat. He was out with 2 balls to go in the match. Probably would have counted as his greatest innings if he'd managed to stay in.
Windies 5 down as Hodge goes. Not looking good for an extended match.
76/0 to 115/5 is a hell of a collapse after a good start.
Who would buy tickets for days 4 or 5 of an England test match?
I miss the Draw in test cricket. It's a hen's tooth now.
Can't really say that I miss draws but a match that can go either way on the final day as the overs clock down is magical.
But that hanging on for a draw - not out top batsman with the tail - can produce some of the most nail-biting finales. I remember one in the Ashes involving Monty Panesar.
I watched Jimmy Anderson bat for about 3 hours at Headingley a few years ago against Sri Lanka in an attempt to stave off defeat. He was out with 2 balls to go in the match. Probably would have counted as his greatest innings if he'd managed to stay in.
5 days of Cricket yet its remarkable how often the final batsman falls in the final over of a Test.
And not in a "last place you look" kind of way of well the Test ends when he fell by definition, but in what was known to be the final over before the first ball was bowled.
Windies 5 down as Hodge goes. Not looking good for an extended match.
76/0 to 115/5 is a hell of a collapse after a good start.
Who would buy tickets for days 4 or 5 of an England test match?
I miss the Draw in test cricket. It's a hen's tooth now.
Can't really say that I miss draws but a match that can go either way on the final day as the overs clock down is magical.
But that hanging on for a draw - not out top batsman with the tail - can produce some of the most nail-biting finales. I remember one in the Ashes involving Monty Panesar.
Oh yes, I include that in the either way. A draw with plenty of wickets in hand is dull. A draw with bowlers desperately hanging on and a decent batsman trying to farm the strike can be riveting.
The last session of a Test match when all three results are still possible, is one of the highlights of watching any sport.
I can't think of a situation possible where precisely three results are plausible near the end of a test & if it is three, the draw isn't one of them.
Windies 5 down as Hodge goes. Not looking good for an extended match.
76/0 to 115/5 is a hell of a collapse after a good start.
Who would buy tickets for days 4 or 5 of an England test match?
I miss the Draw in test cricket. It's a hen's tooth now.
Can't really say that I miss draws but a match that can go either way on the final day as the overs clock down is magical.
But that hanging on for a draw - not out top batsman with the tail - can produce some of the most nail-biting finales. I remember one in the Ashes involving Monty Panesar.
Oh yes, I include that in the either way. A draw with plenty of wickets in hand is dull. A draw with bowlers desperately hanging on and a decent batsman trying to farm the strike can be riveting.
The last session of a Test match when all three results are still possible, is one of the highlights of watching any sport.
I can't think of a situation possible where precisely three results are plausible near the end of a test.
Windies 5 down as Hodge goes. Not looking good for an extended match.
76/0 to 115/5 is a hell of a collapse after a good start.
Who would buy tickets for days 4 or 5 of an England test match?
I miss the Draw in test cricket. It's a hen's tooth now.
Can't really say that I miss draws but a match that can go either way on the final day as the overs clock down is magical.
But that hanging on for a draw - not out top batsman with the tail - can produce some of the most nail-biting finales. I remember one in the Ashes involving Monty Panesar.
Oh yes, I include that in the either way. A draw with plenty of wickets in hand is dull. A draw with bowlers desperately hanging on and a decent batsman trying to farm the strike can be riveting.
The last session of a Test match when all three results are still possible, is one of the highlights of watching any sport.
I can't think of a situation possible where precisely three results are plausible near the end of a test.
9 down with 1 run to win.
Draw with the scores level, tie, or win for one side.
Windies 5 down as Hodge goes. Not looking good for an extended match.
76/0 to 115/5 is a hell of a collapse after a good start.
Who would buy tickets for days 4 or 5 of an England test match?
I miss the Draw in test cricket. It's a hen's tooth now.
Can't really say that I miss draws but a match that can go either way on the final day as the overs clock down is magical.
But that hanging on for a draw - not out top batsman with the tail - can produce some of the most nail-biting finales. I remember one in the Ashes involving Monty Panesar.
Oh yes, I include that in the either way. A draw with plenty of wickets in hand is dull. A draw with bowlers desperately hanging on and a decent batsman trying to farm the strike can be riveting.
The last session of a Test match when all three results are still possible, is one of the highlights of watching any sport.
I can't think of a situation possible where precisely three results are plausible near the end of a test.
9 down with 1 run to win.
Draw with the scores level, tie, or win for one side.
It's odd how the USA need 'USA' in massive letters across their outfits. Is that because the team members are too think to remember where they're from?
Windies 5 down as Hodge goes. Not looking good for an extended match.
76/0 to 115/5 is a hell of a collapse after a good start.
Who would buy tickets for days 4 or 5 of an England test match?
I miss the Draw in test cricket. It's a hen's tooth now.
Can't really say that I miss draws but a match that can go either way on the final day as the overs clock down is magical.
But that hanging on for a draw - not out top batsman with the tail - can produce some of the most nail-biting finales. I remember one in the Ashes involving Monty Panesar.
Oh yes, I include that in the either way. A draw with plenty of wickets in hand is dull. A draw with bowlers desperately hanging on and a decent batsman trying to farm the strike can be riveting.
The last session of a Test match when all three results are still possible, is one of the highlights of watching any sport.
I can't think of a situation possible where precisely three results are plausible near the end of a test.
9 down with 1 run to win.
Draw with the scores level, tie, or win for one side.
That's four results.
No it’s not, because the bowling side can’t win. Only the batting side can.
Windies 5 down as Hodge goes. Not looking good for an extended match.
76/0 to 115/5 is a hell of a collapse after a good start.
Who would buy tickets for days 4 or 5 of an England test match?
I miss the Draw in test cricket. It's a hen's tooth now.
Can't really say that I miss draws but a match that can go either way on the final day as the overs clock down is magical.
But that hanging on for a draw - not out top batsman with the tail - can produce some of the most nail-biting finales. I remember one in the Ashes involving Monty Panesar.
Oh yes, I include that in the either way. A draw with plenty of wickets in hand is dull. A draw with bowlers desperately hanging on and a decent batsman trying to farm the strike can be riveting.
The last session of a Test match when all three results are still possible, is one of the highlights of watching any sport.
I can't think of a situation possible where precisely three results are plausible near the end of a test.
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Contrary to some movies, the number of men actually working on a wooden ship at any one time could be quite small. IIRC from DK Brown, a few dozen would do much of the building of a 74 - multiple years of work for them.
Mr. Malmesbury, it only took the Romans a few months to knock up fleets in the First Punic War. Mind you, they lost literally hundreds of thousands of men to storms, so...
And on that cheery note, I must be off.
https://x.com/craigunger/status/1816808254908895459
She’ll always be ‘morally panicking over imaginary pupils identifying as cats’ woman to me.
A ship of the line 50 years old was common.
Or, indeed, let the market decide?
Who would buy tickets for days 4 or 5 of an England test match?
I though @ydoethur at least would have got it.
The main thing it shows is that KB probably isn't the right choice. Partly because she hasn't heard of the Streisand Effect. But mostly because a LotO can't take themselves too seriously, because most of them are in a fundamentally absurd position. Especially when leading a party of 121. I don't think Badenoch is capable of that.
https://x.com/team_luftwaffe/status/1816805818781626686?s=61&t=LYVEHh2mqFy1oUJAdCfe-Q
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cxe24vg59lzt
The government 'loans' money to students to pay fees that universities are free to set, within limits, and where the students are free to choose where to go, subject to university acceptance.
The government funds research councils to fund research proposals on (subjective, sure) merit.
The government indirectly administers some funding through a general assessment of research excellence.
Now, the government, through its funding bodies, could impose various standards around free speech to be eligible for these funds and that would seem to me entirely reasonable. But if the government actually wants to impose rules directly on universities then they should fund them directly, as they do with schools.
She'll be afraid of losing him, not his office.
My personal view is that there are no "silver bullets", and that you need to have a range of measures in place that include border security, and much better enforcement of proof of right to work in the US.
(In fact, I did a video on it.)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_aircraft_of_the_Irish_Air_Corps
RoI is totally dependent on the UK’s RAF for air defences.
#atlanticcoastexpress.
And not in a "last place you look" kind of way of well the Test ends when he fell by definition, but in what was known to be the final over before the first ball was bowled.
It seems to happen surprisingly often.
Draw with the scores level, tie, or win for one side.
https://x.com/timecaptales/status/1816681095435260214
It's odd how the USA need 'USA' in massive letters across their outfits. Is that because the team members are too think to remember where they're from?
(I do like Mongolia's; the first piccie.)
Hence win for ‘one’ side ie not both sides.
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