The whole betting-gate stuff. The thing that kicked it off was £100 bet. Now we are into multiple £1000 bets. Its a bit like expenses scandal was Mr Jacqui Smith renting a naughty movie....when people were sticking £10k's on expenses that didn't exist.
massive intervention in Farage Ukraine Dispute this evening on GB News. Michael Portillo who was Defence Minister at relevant time and a University Professor who is an Authority on the subject both agreed the attacks on Farage were willful and disreputable and had intent to smear. Both agreed his comments were a fair summing up of a reasonable view of the situation.
Obviously views varied and that if you went back to Gorbachev and the breakup of the Soviet Union and Warsaw Pact the West ignored Gobachev’s wishes on NATO expansion and the need for a security pact between Russia and the West.
They both also recognized critical time we are living through, and Farage alone,amongst the leaders, had been the one who has brought up and was prepared to discuss the subject of Ukraine, the war and it’s possible implications. Both felt it was a discussion the country needs, especially in a General Election.
The whole betting-gate stuff. The thing that kicked it off was £100 bet. Now we are into multiple £1000 bets. Its a bit like expenses scandal was Mr Jacqui Smith renting a naughty movie....when people were sticking £10k's on expenses that didn't exist.
That was an exclusively New Labour scandal, this one is traversing both parties, although as I don't believe Philip Davies has done anything wrong it is not quite as easy as it was yesterday to hang the Labour guy.
massive intervention in Farage Ukraine Dispute this evening on GB News. Michael Portillo who was Defence Minister at relevant time and a University Professor who is an Authority on the subject both agreed the attacks on Farage were willful and disreputable and had intent to smear. Both agreed his comments were a fair summing up of a reasonable view of the situation.
Obviously views varied and that if you went back to Gorbachev and the breakup of the Soviet Union and Warsaw Pact the West ignored Gobachev’s wishes on NATO expansion and the need for a security pact between Russia and the West.
They both also recognized critical time we are living through, and Farage alone,amongst the leaders, had been the one who has brought up and was prepared to discuss the subject of Ukraine, the war and it’s possible implications. Both felt it was a discussion the country needs, especially in a General Election.
The only reasonable view that you can take about the Ukraine is that you have to stop Putin from taking Ukraine because he will continue into Poland or elsewhere..... A line has to be drawn somewhere and at the moment the only thing we are being asked for is weapons and money...
The whole betting-gate stuff. The thing that kicked it off was £100 bet. Now we are into multiple £1000 bets. Its a bit like expenses scandal was Mr Jacqui Smith renting a naughty movie....when people were sticking £10k's on expenses that didn't exist.
That was an exclusively New Labour scandal, this one is traversing both parties, although as I don't believe Philip Davies has done anything wrong it is not quite as easy as it was yesterday to hang the Labour guy.
massive intervention in Farage Ukraine Dispute this evening on GB News. Michael Portillo who was Defence Minister at relevant time and a University Professor who is an Authority on the subject both agreed the attacks on Farage were willful and disreputable and had intent to smear. Both agreed his comments were a fair summing up of a reasonable view of the situation.
Obviously views varied and that if you went back to Gorbachev and the breakup of the Soviet Union and Warsaw Pact the West ignored Gobachev’s wishes on NATO expansion and the need for a security pact between Russia and the West.
They both also recognized critical time we are living through, and Farage alone,amongst the leaders, had been the one who has brought up and was prepared to discuss the subject of Ukraine, the war and it’s possible implications. Both felt it was a discussion the country needs, especially in a General Election.
massive intervention in Farage Ukraine Dispute this evening on GB News. Michael Portillo who was Defence Minister at relevant time and a University Professor who is an Authority on the subject both agreed the attacks on Farage were willful and disreputable and had intent to smear. Both agreed his comments were a fair summing up of a reasonable view of the situation.
Obviously views varied and that if you went back to Gorbachev and the breakup of the Soviet Union and Warsaw Pact the West ignored Gobachev’s wishes on NATO expansion and the need for a security pact between Russia and the West.
They both also recognized critical time we are living through, and Farage alone,amongst the leaders, had been the one who has brought up and was prepared to discuss the subject of Ukraine, the war and it’s possible implications. Both felt it was a discussion the country needs, especially in a General Election.
My first ever date was a picnic and the chat up line I used was picnic related.
I like the look of your lunchbox?
No, that's far too subtle for me.
The line was
Me: Do you know the difference between a prawn cocktail sandwich and a [certain sex act]?
Her: No
Me: Cool, do you fancy going on a picnic with me?
Her: Oh you absolute fucking dickhead.
I think we need clarification. Your original post implied you had actually been on the picnic date whereas later information seems to indicate you asked the potential date and they said "dickhead".
She went on the date with me.
She just hated that she actually thought I was genuinely asking her a question about sandwiches.
A week to go, still low on celeb endorsements, minimal letter writing campaigns and newspapers not announced their backing yet.
Fantastic stuff, let's hope that continues.
Does make a change. The biggest "endorsements" we have had were the two billionaires, but they were hardly helpful...i am not backing Tories anymore, i will vote Labour, but actually i quite like Reform policies....quick get then off the stage
Newsnight are using the Game of Thrones theme tune.
And a set of none entities being interviewed...
Newsnight needs taking out the back and putting down. No big beasts feel the need to go on Newsnight these days, its years since it was THE show that government and opposition felt they had to be interviewed on about the topics of the day.
Eh? Wes Streeting is on it.
He's one of the biggest beasts in the Cabinet come next Friday. Gotta be 4th or 5th in the New New Labour hierarchy.
Newsnight are using the Game of Thrones theme tune.
And a set of none entities being interviewed...
Newsnight needs taking out the back and putting down. No big beasts feel the need to go on Newsnight these days, its years since it was THE show that government and opposition felt they had to be interviewed on about the topics of the day.
Eh? Wes Streeting is on it.
He's one of the biggest beasts in the Cabinet come next Friday. Gotta be 4th or 5th in the New New Labour hierarchy.
I meant in general. We are currently middle of GE campaign, so if not now, its never. They are down to 300k viewership on a normal night now.
massive intervention in Farage Ukraine Dispute this evening on GB News. Michael Portillo who was Defence Minister at relevant time and a University Professor who is an Authority on the subject both agreed the attacks on Farage were willful and disreputable and had intent to smear. Both agreed his comments were a fair summing up of a reasonable view of the situation.
Obviously views varied and that if you went back to Gorbachev and the breakup of the Soviet Union and Warsaw Pact the West ignored Gobachev’s wishes on NATO expansion and the need for a security pact between Russia and the West.
They both also recognized critical time we are living through, and Farage alone,amongst the leaders, had been the one who has brought up and was prepared to discuss the subject of Ukraine, the war and it’s possible implications. Both felt it was a discussion the country needs, especially in a General Election.
The only reasonable view that you can take about the Ukraine is that you have to stop Putin from taking Ukraine because he will continue into Poland or elsewhere..... A line has to be drawn somewhere and at the moment the only thing we are being asked for is weapons and money...
Still, it's nice to be reminded of Portillo just before the election when we might be treated to a lot of other 'Portillo Moments'.
Seems Starmer's performance this evening lost JK Rowling endorsement...I am sure he is devastated.
"Old habits die hard. I've been Labour all my life. I wanted a clear statement from Starmer because I really want an end to this long stretch of Tory insanity, but here I am, voting independent for the first time in my life."
It is interesting how Ukraine has really dropped from media interest. North Korea sending troops to fight for Russia is as far as I can see nowhere to be seen on BBC News front page.
Instead crucial stories like ChatGPT can write undergrad psychology essays are there. It might say something more about psychology as a degree than quality of AI....
Seems Starmer's performance this evening lost JK Rowling endorsement...I am sure he is devastated.
"Old habits die hard. I've been Labour all my life. I wanted a clear statement from Starmer because I really want an end to this long stretch of Tory insanity, but here I am, voting independent for the first time in my life."
"A promise we can keep, and a promise you can afford."
I have not heard this soundbite before. Is it new?
He said it a lot. So if it isn’t an agreed soundbite, then Streeting is keen on it and doubling down.
It feels reminiscent of a provincial supermarket / butchers slogan from the eighties. Not bad in itself. But a bit “not the worst sausages, not the best sausages, but the ones you can afford.”
Seems Starmer's performance this evening lost JK Rowling endorsement...I am sure he is devastated.
"Old habits die hard. I've been Labour all my life. I wanted a clear statement from Starmer because I really want an end to this long stretch of Tory insanity, but here I am, voting independent for the first time in my life."
Commie Rowling can fuck off.
I’ll put you down as a maybe.
She literally did advocate for them though. Do you support her in that?
Seems Starmer's performance this evening lost JK Rowling endorsement...I am sure he is devastated.
"Old habits die hard. I've been Labour all my life. I wanted a clear statement from Starmer because I really want an end to this long stretch of Tory insanity, but here I am, voting independent for the first time in my life."
Commie Rowling can fuck off.
I’ll put you down as a maybe.
I'm surprised more people aren't of the same mind. She endorsed the Communist Party. It's just as bad as endorsing fascists.
She also writes about wizards so nobody should get vexed aboit her opinions. And she doesn’t get that in real life the evil boys in the evil house at boarding school like the blond Nazi wizard win not the gimpy twats like Harry Potter. Just look at Boris for example.
It is interesting how Ukraine has really dropped from media interest. North Korea sending troops to fight for Russia is as far as I can see nowhere to be seen on BBC News front page.
Instead crucial stories like ChatGPT can write undergrad psychology essays are there. It might say something more about psychology as a degree than quality of AI....
Its too difficult and boring for the media now. No big sweeping advances just a boring war of attrition.
Cracking in the way a bitter journalist who really nobody will remember wants to find a way to make himself feel better.
What an absolute c. A journalist putting someone’s achievements on paper as a means of diminishing them when their own achievements are the tiniest woodlouse shit in the consciousness of the world.
It’s amazing how many journalists are so much more intelligent than those they write about but then, just stay average journalists.
Remarkably aggressive.
Anyhow, journalists are there to report and maybe analyse. They don't need to have achievements. Prime ministers possibly do.
"A promise we can keep, and a promise you can afford."
I have not heard this soundbite before. Is it new?
He said it a lot. So if it isn’t an agreed soundbite, then Streeting is keen on it and doubling down.
It feels reminiscent of a provincial supermarket / butchers slogan from the eighties. Not bad in itself. But a bit “not the worst sausages, not the best sausages, but the ones you can afford.”
With Labour we just have to hope for some over-delivery, because they’ve certainly got the under-promising nailed.
Cracking in the way a bitter journalist who really nobody will remember wants to find a way to make himself feel better.
What an absolute c. A journalist putting someone’s achievements on paper as a means of diminishing them when their own achievements are the tiniest woodlouse shit in the consciousness of the world.
It’s amazing how many journalists are so much more intelligent than those they write about but then, just stay average journalists.
They are all incredibly intelligent until they have to deal with numbers....its like their Kryptonite.
Didn’t watch the debate. Can I have a PB view please?
I watched it. Sunak was indeed feisty, aggressive and assertive, and rather rude in his constant interruptions. Starmer was Starmer. Sunak's schtick was: vote Labour to raise taxes, raise immigration, and surrender to sundry enemies - regardless of the question asked. He forgot to mention that taxes and immigration (of all sorts) had indeed risen during the Tories' reign. Sunak pretended that the Tories had only been in power for 18 months.
It was rather like watching England v. Slovenia. A dull 0-0 draw without much goalmouth action.
Didn’t watch the debate. Can I have a PB view please?
It was a confident and combative but tetchy performance from Sunak, which got his attack points across but won’t have left viewers liking him any the more for it. Starmer was calmer and with a few effective digs at Sunak that got audience laughs, but the balance of the questions put him on the back foot at times. Starmer’s closing summary was the more persuasive. All IMHO.
The Tories are making the mistake of assuming that frightening people about Labour will drive votes back to them. Because it always used to work. But Labour isn’t that scary, and people now have other places to go.
Talking of people who have gone mental by being on tw@tter too much. Laurence Fox might be needing to phone the lawyers again. He seems on a mission to bankrupt himself by tweet.
Seems Starmer's performance this evening lost JK Rowling endorsement...I am sure he is devastated.
"Old habits die hard. I've been Labour all my life. I wanted a clear statement from Starmer because I really want an end to this long stretch of Tory insanity, but here I am, voting independent for the first time in my life."
Her incumbent MP is a Lib Dem, and Labour came fourth in 2019, so she wasn't going to have any opportunity to help end the Tory government anyway, thanks to FPTP.
There are two independent candidates in her constituency. I assume that she isn't voting for Nick Hornig, the cabbie who doesn't want to be penalised for people's "life choices" to ride bicycles, which means she must be intending to vote for David Henry, who appears to be pushing conspiracy theories about widespread sexual assault and paedophilia within the Liberal Democrats.
Didn’t watch the debate. Can I have a PB view please?
I watched it. Sunak was indeed feisty, aggressive and assertive, and rather rude in his constant interruptions. Starmer was Starmer. Sunak's schtick was: vote Labour to raise taxes, raise immigration, and surrender to sundry enemies - regardless of the question asked. He forgot to mention that taxes and immigration (of all sorts) had indeed risen during the Tories' reign Sunak pretended that the Tories had only been in power for 18 months.
It was rather like watching England v. Slovenia. A dull 0-0 draw without much goalmouth action.
And with Starmer as England and Sunak as Slovenia, I assume. Only Slovenia if they’d won the last Euros but were now unfancied.
Didn’t watch the debate. Can I have a PB view please?
It was a confident and combative but tetchy performance from Sunak, which got his attack points across but won’t have left viewers liking him any the more for it. Starmer was calmer and with a few effective digs at Sunak that got audience laughs, but the balance of the questions put him on the back foot at times. Starmer’s closing summary was the more persuasive. All IMHO.
The Tories are making the mistake of assuming that frightening people about Labour will drive votes back to them. Because it always used to work. But Labour isn’t that scary, and people now have other places to go.
An afterthought on reflection. Starmer was trying to explain why people should vote Labour. Sunak was trying to explain why people shouldn't vote Labour. He made little effort to explain why people should vote Tory.
Labour has administratively suspended its Islwyn Senedd member Rhianon Passmore from the party pending investigations into allegations regarding her actions. In a statement, Labour said "all complaints are investigated in accordance with the Party's complaints procedures."
The decision comes following an allegation on the Guido Fawkes website that Ms Passmore was seen driving a car with two different number plates. Guido Fawkes reported Ms Passmore was "spotted driving out of the Welsh Parliament's car park with her number plate hanging off, revealing a different one underneath."
Didn’t watch the debate. Can I have a PB view please?
It was a confident and combative but tetchy performance from Sunak, which got his attack points across but won’t have left viewers liking him any the more for it. Starmer was calmer and with a few effective digs at Sunak that got audience laughs, but the balance of the questions put him on the back foot at times. Starmer’s closing summary was the more persuasive. All IMHO.
The Tories are making the mistake of assuming that frightening people about Labour will drive votes back to them. Because it always used to work. But Labour isn’t that scary, and people now have other places to go.
And everyone knows that taxes are going up whoever wins. They just pretend not.
Sunak is just setting up the "told you so" for after his defeat. He has given up trying anything more than setting traps.
Didn’t watch the debate. Can I have a PB view please?
It was a confident and combative but tetchy performance from Sunak, which got his attack points across but won’t have left viewers liking him any the more for it. Starmer was calmer and with a few effective digs at Sunak that got audience laughs, but the balance of the questions put him on the back foot at times. Starmer’s closing summary was the more persuasive. All IMHO.
The Tories are making the mistake of assuming that frightening people about Labour will drive votes back to them. Because it always used to work. But Labour isn’t that scary, and people now have other places to go.
And everyone knows that taxes are going up whoever wins. They just pretend not.
Sunak is just setting up the "told you so" for after his defeat. He has given up trying anything more than setting traps.
It's what Sunak did in the Truss debates. He was right about that one to be fair, even if he's messed up all on his own since.
The only candidate at the hustings I attended who acknowledged the need to tax more to pay for everything we say we want and need was the independent socialist. The other 6 were all variations on taxing billionaires to pay for everything, unspecified talk of making taxes fairer, or ignored the point.
Didn’t watch the debate. Can I have a PB view please?
It was a confident and combative but tetchy performance from Sunak, which got his attack points across but won’t have left viewers liking him any the more for it. Starmer was calmer and with a few effective digs at Sunak that got audience laughs, but the balance of the questions put him on the back foot at times. Starmer’s closing summary was the more persuasive. All IMHO.
The Tories are making the mistake of assuming that frightening people about Labour will drive votes back to them. Because it always used to work. But Labour isn’t that scary, and people now have other places to go.
An afterthought on reflection. Starmer was trying to explain why people should vote Labour. Sunak was trying to explain why people shouldn't vote Labour. He made little effort to explain why people should vote Tory.
Well, can you explain why they should? It's not an easy task to be fair, it's no wonder he is struggling with it.
Didn’t watch the debate. Can I have a PB view please?
It was a confident and combative but tetchy performance from Sunak, which got his attack points across but won’t have left viewers liking him any the more for it. Starmer was calmer and with a few effective digs at Sunak that got audience laughs, but the balance of the questions put him on the back foot at times. Starmer’s closing summary was the more persuasive. All IMHO.
The Tories are making the mistake of assuming that frightening people about Labour will drive votes back to them. Because it always used to work. But Labour isn’t that scary, and people now have other places to go.
The attempt to paint Starmer as scary has felt a little half hearted to me. Perhaps we should all be afraid a lot more than we are of an unfettered Starmer with an uber-majority, but it doesn't seem to be moving the dial at all.
Cracking in the way a bitter journalist who really nobody will remember wants to find a way to make himself feel better.
What an absolute c. A journalist putting someone’s achievements on paper as a means of diminishing them when their own achievements are the tiniest woodlouse shit in the consciousness of the world.
It’s amazing how many journalists are so much more intelligent than those they write about but then, just stay average journalists.
Remarkably aggressive.
Anyhow, journalists are there to report and maybe analyse. They don't need to have achievements. Prime ministers possibly do.
I have lost so much respect for journalists- not the ones on the local beats, finding out where Mrs X has been fucked over by the council. I mean the self obsessed Westminster journalists who don’t have a fucking clue how things work and the parasite opinion journalists who just sit there and criticise from a position of never ever actually achieving anything of note and don’t have the balls or the ability to achieve anything.
So they sit on the sidelines and snark but have no understanding of all the difficulty of being, say the PM, because all they do is write 300 words of shit. Then they wrote another 300 words about what another similar journalist has written. And they claim it’s news “apparently x has done this”, well yes, another journalist also said “apparently x has done this” so by someone writing it it becomes something you can write about rather than spending the fucking time finding out if it happened rather than just writing about what someone else has written about.
Do people just not bother to google things before the tweet things? I know people looking to stir up outrage or defend themselves don't care if they are rebutted, but it would still save some annoyance.
Do people just not bother to google things before the tweet things? I know people looking to stir up outrage or defend themselves don't care if they are rebutted, but it would still save some annoyance.
Do people just not bother to google things before the tweet things? I know people looking to stir up outrage or defend themselves don't care if they are rebutted, but it would still save some annoyance.
Do people just not bother to google things before the tweet things? I know people looking to stir up outrage or defend themselves don't care if they are rebutted, but it would still save some annoyance.
She's gone completely mental. Here's something she reposted today:
Pfizer is a profit maximizing company. It's hard to see how *deliberately* designing a vaccine to do any - let alone all - these things would do anything to maximize Pfizer's profits.
Do people just not bother to google things before the tweet things? I know people looking to stir up outrage or defend themselves don't care if they are rebutted, but it would still save some annoyance.
Just what we need, another Temu. Amazon is already bad enough becoming infested with dodgy products.
I wonder if they are trying to segregate the crap. Will they end the practise of "binning", though?
For those who don't know - if multiple sellers are claiming to sell the same product, Amazon has been in the habit of putting the same product from different vendors in the same storage. So if some is fake, it gets mixed in with the real. IIRC one of the premium memory card manufacturers had to use lawsuits to stop the fakes being dumped on top of the ones they (the card manufacturer) were selling on Amazon.
Do people just not bother to google things before the tweet things? I know people looking to stir up outrage or defend themselves don't care if they are rebutted, but it would still save some annoyance.
She's gone completely mental. Here's something she reposted today:
Pfizer is a profit maximizing company. It's hard to see how *deliberately* designing a vaccine to do any - let alone all - these things would do anything to maximize Pfizer's profits.
I think you are labouring under a misapprehension.
Naomi Woolf went full David Ike* quite a while back.
Christ we're going to get a royal commision and a betting crackdown aren't we? No flutters for Politically Exposed Persons...
We are slowly going through the different parties. Has anybody asked Nige if he likes a bet to go with his pint, packet of fags and copy of Putin's best speeches?
Then we can start to have a look at journalists. Can of worms has been opened.
Just what we need, another Temu. Amazon is already bad enough becoming infested with dodgy products.
I wonder if they are trying to segregate the crap. Will they end the practise of "binning", though?
For those who don't know - if multiple sellers are claiming to sell the same product, Amazon has been in the habit of putting the same product from different vendors in the same storage. So if some is fake, it gets mixed in with the real. IIRC one of the premium memory card manufacturers had to use lawsuits to stop the fakes being dumped on top of the ones they (the card manufacturer) were selling on Amazon.
Perhaps. I know a couple of people who have legit businesses that sell on Amazon in the US and they are increasingly pissed off. They aren't dropped shipping crap, they are have products made specifically for them, safety tested, offer warranty etc. They mess up and they will their arse get sued.
Then Brand AFdfsdrfjkrter pops up from nowhere and spams the listings with similar products with fake reviews etc, with no guarantee they are properly safety tested etc, they get taken down and Brand Bfefrefefefe offering the same product pops up, rinse and repeat.
massive intervention in Farage Ukraine Dispute this evening on GB News. Michael Portillo who was Defence Minister at relevant time and a University Professor who is an Authority on the subject both agreed the attacks on Farage were willful and disreputable and had intent to smear. Both agreed his comments were a fair summing up of a reasonable view of the situation.
Obviously views varied and that if you went back to Gorbachev and the breakup of the Soviet Union and Warsaw Pact the West ignored Gobachev’s wishes on NATO expansion and the need for a security pact between Russia and the West.
They both also recognized critical time we are living through, and Farage alone,amongst the leaders, had been the one who has brought up and was prepared to discuss the subject of Ukraine, the war and it’s possible implications. Both felt it was a discussion the country needs, especially in a General Election.
What a load of nonsense, the others are prepared to discuss it they just don't agree with Farage on it.
I see we're back to the idea quoting someone's views and responding to them is smearing though. What an absolute snowflake Farage and co are.
Hmm. To be fair, whilst I think Farage is completely wrong, it is fair to say that most of the attacks I have seen on him have been along the lines of him being a Putin shill and a traitor rather than any reasoned response.
I mean, as an example, plenty of us on here could have given a reasoned response which would have demolished him but I haven't actually seen anyone bother. And that includes me. We have been content just to say rude things about him. Same goes for the wider press and commentators.
Just what we need, another Temu. Amazon is already bad enough becoming infested with dodgy products.
I wonder if they are trying to segregate the crap. Will they end the practise of "binning", though?
For those who don't know - if multiple sellers are claiming to sell the same product, Amazon has been in the habit of putting the same product from different vendors in the same storage. So if some is fake, it gets mixed in with the real. IIRC one of the premium memory card manufacturers had to use lawsuits to stop the fakes being dumped on top of the ones they (the card manufacturer) were selling on Amazon.
Perhaps. I know a couple of people who have legit businesses that sell on Amazon in the US and they are increasingly pissed off. They aren't dropped shipping crap, they are have products made specifically for them, safety tested, offer warranty etc. They mess up and they will their arse get sued.
Then Brand AFdfsdrfjkrter pops up from nowhere and spams the listings with similar products with fake reviews etc, with no guarantee they are properly safety tested etc, they get taken down and Brand Bfefrefefefe offering the same product pops up, rinse and repeat.
Hey, Brand Bfefrefefefe, is one of mine.
We make the best door retention bolts in aviation. Even Boeing use them now.
Cracking in the way a bitter journalist who really nobody will remember wants to find a way to make himself feel better.
What an absolute c. A journalist putting someone’s achievements on paper as a means of diminishing them when their own achievements are the tiniest woodlouse shit in the consciousness of the world.
It’s amazing how many journalists are so much more intelligent than those they write about but then, just stay average journalists.
Remarkably aggressive.
Anyhow, journalists are there to report and maybe analyse. They don't need to have achievements. Prime ministers possibly do.
I have lost so much respect for journalists- not the ones on the local beats, finding out where Mrs X has been fucked over by the council. I mean the self obsessed Westminster journalists who don’t have a fucking clue how things work and the parasite opinion journalists who just sit there and criticise from a position of never ever actually achieving anything of note and don’t have the balls or the ability to achieve anything.
So they sit on the sidelines and snark but have no understanding of all the difficulty of being, say the PM, because all they do is write 300 words of shit. Then they wrote another 300 words about what another similar journalist has written. And they claim it’s news “apparently x has done this”, well yes, another journalist also said “apparently x has done this” so by someone writing it it becomes something you can write about rather than spending the fucking time finding out if it happened rather than just writing about what someone else has written about.
I agree with you, although I would be less polite.
Do people just not bother to google things before the tweet things? I know people looking to stir up outrage or defend themselves don't care if they are rebutted, but it would still save some annoyance.
She's gone completely mental. Here's something she reposted today:
Pfizer is a profit maximizing company. It's hard to see how *deliberately* designing a vaccine to do any - let alone all - these things would do anything to maximize Pfizer's profits.
I think you are labouring under a misapprehension.
Naomi Woolf went full David Ike* quite a while back.
Do people just not bother to google things before the tweet things? I know people looking to stir up outrage or defend themselves don't care if they are rebutted, but it would still save some annoyance.
She's gone completely mental. Here's something she reposted today:
Pfizer is a profit maximizing company. It's hard to see how *deliberately* designing a vaccine to do any - let alone all - these things would do anything to maximize Pfizer's profits.
I think you are labouring under a misapprehension.
Naomi Woolf went full David Ike* quite a while back.
I don’t think she’s got over the humiliation of publishing a book based on an entirely false premise.
You're going to have to narrow it down a bit for me.
I mean, are we talking about her first book, The Beauty Myth, which contained a bunch of made up statistics about the prevalence of anorexia.
Or are we talking about Vagina, where she waxed lyrical about neuroscience. And then pretty much every neuroscientist who read it said she didn't understand neuroscience.
Or perhaps you mean Misconceptions: Truth, Lies, and the Unexpected on the Journey to Motherhood, whose entire premise is "what I went through must be exactly the same as every other woman."
There's so many examples, it's hard to know where to start.
Do people just not bother to google things before the tweet things? I know people looking to stir up outrage or defend themselves don't care if they are rebutted, but it would still save some annoyance.
She's gone completely mental. Here's something she reposted today:
Pfizer is a profit maximizing company. It's hard to see how *deliberately* designing a vaccine to do any - let alone all - these things would do anything to maximize Pfizer's profits.
I think you are labouring under a misapprehension.
Naomi Woolf went full David Ike* quite a while back.
I don’t think she’s got over the humiliation of publishing a book based on an entirely false premise.
You're going to have to narrow it down a bit for me.
I mean, are we talking about her first book, The Beauty Myth, which contained a bunch of made up statistics about the prevalence of anorexia.
Or are we talking about Vagina, where she waxed lyrical about neuroscience. And then pretty much every neuroscientist who read it said she didn't understand neuroscience.
Or perhaps you mean Misconceptions: Truth, Lies, and the Unexpected on the Journey to Motherhood, whose entire premise is "what I went through must be exactly the same as every other woman."
There's so many examples, it's hard to know where to start.
massive intervention in Farage Ukraine Dispute this evening on GB News. Michael Portillo who was Defence Minister at relevant time and a University Professor who is an Authority on the subject both agreed the attacks on Farage were willful and disreputable and had intent to smear. Both agreed his comments were a fair summing up of a reasonable view of the situation.
Obviously views varied and that if you went back to Gorbachev and the breakup of the Soviet Union and Warsaw Pact the West ignored Gobachev’s wishes on NATO expansion and the need for a security pact between Russia and the West.
They both also recognized critical time we are living through, and Farage alone,amongst the leaders, had been the one who has brought up and was prepared to discuss the subject of Ukraine, the war and it’s possible implications. Both felt it was a discussion the country needs, especially in a General Election.
The only reasonable view that you can take about the Ukraine is that you have to stop Putin from taking Ukraine because he will continue into Poland or elsewhere..... A line has to be drawn somewhere and at the moment the only thing we are being asked for is weapons and money...
It's almost like somebody wrote an article on it...
Police are to take the lead in investigations into some of the allegations about bets placed by politicians on the general election.
Industry regulator the Gambling Commission will continue to lead inquiries into cases "where the alleged offending is limited to breaches of the Gambling Act only", a Metropolitan Police spokesperson told the BBC.
But detectives would be in charge of "a small number of cases" where other offences might also be involved, such as misconduct in public office, the spokesperson added.
BBC Newsnight understands that as many as 15 Conservative Party candidates and officials are being scrutinised by the commission.
massive intervention in Farage Ukraine Dispute this evening on GB News. Michael Portillo who was Defence Minister at relevant time and a University Professor who is an Authority on the subject both agreed the attacks on Farage were willful and disreputable and had intent to smear. Both agreed his comments were a fair summing up of a reasonable view of the situation.
Obviously views varied and that if you went back to Gorbachev and the breakup of the Soviet Union and Warsaw Pact the West ignored Gobachev’s wishes on NATO expansion and the need for a security pact between Russia and the West.
They both also recognized critical time we are living through, and Farage alone,amongst the leaders, had been the one who has brought up and was prepared to discuss the subject of Ukraine, the war and it’s possible implications. Both felt it was a discussion the country needs, especially in a General Election.
What a load of nonsense, the others are prepared to discuss it they just don't agree with Farage on it.
I see we're back to the idea quoting someone's views and responding to them is smearing though. What an absolute snowflake Farage and co are.
Hmm. To be fair, whilst I think Farage is completely wrong, it is fair to say that most of the attacks I have seen on him have been along the lines of him being a Putin shill and a traitor rather than any reasoned response.
I mean, as an example, plenty of us on here could have given a reasoned response which would have demolished him but I haven't actually seen anyone bother. And that includes me. We have been content just to say rude things about him. Same goes for the wider press and commentators.
I think there have been several reasoned responses to Farage's comment on here; the excuses he made for Russia's actions have been demolished fairly thoroughly before his comments as well.
So it then turns to *why* he said them. And in a way, that's more interesting.
Police are to take the lead in investigations into some of the allegations about bets placed by politicians on the general election.
Industry regulator the Gambling Commission will continue to lead inquiries into cases "where the alleged offending is limited to breaches of the Gambling Act only", a Metropolitan Police spokesperson told the BBC.
But detectives would be in charge of "a small number of cases" where other offences might also be involved, such as misconduct in public office, the spokesperson added.
BBC Newsnight understands that as many as 15 Conservative Party candidates and officials are being scrutinised by the commission.
Campaign is now all over. Glastonbury until Sunday, then footy...
Morning
Glasto - yay!
Cricket and tennis for me today. The men’s T20 Semi-final England v India, although I’ve gone off it a bit after the ‘throw the first punch’ comment - horrible language by the coach. And ladies tennis from Eastbourne with the Brits going very well.
"A promise we can keep, and a promise you can afford."
I have not heard this soundbite before. Is it new?
He said it a lot. So if it isn’t an agreed soundbite, then Streeting is keen on it and doubling down.
It feels reminiscent of a provincial supermarket / butchers slogan from the eighties. Not bad in itself. But a bit “not the worst sausages, not the best sausages, but the ones you can afford.”
With Labour we just have to hope for some over-delivery, because they’ve certainly got the under-promising nailed.
This is one of a few reasons why I think Labour are almost certain to win in 2028/9.
Unlike previous examples of a sea-change they are not promising anything very much. Their pitch is change but the message is mostly about stability.
‘Things can only get better’ would be even more apt for 2024 than 1997.
Police are to take the lead in investigations into some of the allegations about bets placed by politicians on the general election.
Industry regulator the Gambling Commission will continue to lead inquiries into cases "where the alleged offending is limited to breaches of the Gambling Act only", a Metropolitan Police spokesperson told the BBC.
But detectives would be in charge of "a small number of cases" where other offences might also be involved, such as misconduct in public office, the spokesperson added.
BBC Newsnight understands that as many as 15 Conservative Party candidates and officials are being scrutinised by the commission.
It still is not clear whether any of these bets constitutes an offence under the Gambling Act or are just politically stupid.
I suspect most won't. It will be lots of small bets based upon rumour mill or difficult to prove that it wasn't. I think at the moment anybody who had a bet around the time of the announcement and vaguely connected to government / police protecting them is getting pinged.
There of course a couple of cases announced so far which it looks very iffy. Now again if that is criminal rather than amoral, have to wait and see.
If only anyone cared what the Sun thought anymore....
Indeed.
I think one thing that’s very noticeable this time is that the newspapers appear to be having no effect on voting intentions. Despite weeks of Daily Mail / Sun / Telegraph / Express / even Times attacks on Starmer nothing seems to shift the polls. They then seem to become even more strident, desperate even.
2024 is the General Election when the printed press died.
If it’s being played out anywhere it’s on social media.
If only anyone cared what the Sun thought anymore....
Indeed.
I think one thing that’s very noticeable this time is that the newspapers appear to be having no effect on voting intentions. Despite weeks of Daily Mail / Sun / Telegraph / Express / even Times attacks on Starmer nothing seems to shift the polls. They then seem to become even more strident, desperate even.
2024 is the General Election when the printed press died.
If it’s being played out anywhere it’s on social media.
I don’t think this is a good thing. Social media isn’t a place where sensible debate happens. But the printed press have themselves to blame for being far too partisan and strident. They have increasingly succumbed to social media levels of argument without the medium or skills to compete.
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massive intervention in Farage Ukraine Dispute this evening on GB News. Michael Portillo who was Defence Minister at relevant time and a University Professor who is an Authority on the subject both agreed the attacks on Farage were willful and disreputable and had intent to smear. Both agreed his comments were a fair summing up of a reasonable view of the situation.
Obviously views varied and that if you went back to Gorbachev and the breakup of the Soviet Union and Warsaw Pact the West ignored Gobachev’s wishes on NATO expansion and the need for a security pact between Russia and the West.
They both also recognized critical time we are living through, and Farage alone,amongst the leaders, had been the one who has brought up and was prepared to discuss the subject of Ukraine, the war and it’s possible implications. Both felt it was a discussion the country needs, especially in a General Election.
https://x.com/DavidBlakeman13/status/1806060145337880893
I see we're back to the idea quoting someone's views and responding to them is smearing though. What an absolute snowflake Farage and co are.
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She just hated that she actually thought I was genuinely asking her a question about sandwiches.
He's one of the biggest beasts in the Cabinet come next Friday. Gotta be 4th or 5th in the New New Labour hierarchy.
Also surgical clogs are closed toed so that "spillages" can be wiped off rather than go on the skin of the member of staff.
I don't make the rules! That's matrons job, and I do what she says.
"A promise we can keep, and a promise you can afford."
I have not heard this soundbite before. Is it new?
"Old habits die hard. I've been Labour all my life. I wanted a clear statement from Starmer because I really want an end to this long stretch of Tory insanity, but here I am, voting independent for the first time in my life."
Instead crucial stories like ChatGPT can write undergrad psychology essays are there. It might say something more about psychology as a degree than quality of AI....
https://www.nationalreview.com/bench-memos/todays-ruling-in-snyder-v-united-states/amp/
It feels reminiscent of a provincial supermarket / butchers slogan from the eighties. Not bad in itself. But a bit “not the worst sausages, not the best sausages, but the ones you can afford.”
Lab 42 (=)
Con 20 (+1)
Ref 16 (-3)
LD 12 (+3)
Green 5
https://x.com/LukeTryl/status/1806087624253456430?t=3PdhapuvgyKpOmXZuGRIRA&s=19
Anyhow, journalists are there to report and maybe analyse. They don't need to have achievements. Prime ministers possibly do.
Where’s that tub of lard when you need it?
(Though I didn't watch it either.)
Sunak was indeed feisty, aggressive and assertive, and rather rude in his constant interruptions.
Starmer was Starmer.
Sunak's schtick was: vote Labour to raise taxes, raise immigration, and surrender to sundry enemies - regardless of the question asked. He forgot to mention that taxes and immigration (of all sorts) had indeed risen during the Tories' reign.
Sunak pretended that the Tories had only been in power for 18 months.
It was rather like watching England v. Slovenia. A dull 0-0 draw without much goalmouth action.
The Tories are making the mistake of assuming that frightening people about Labour will drive votes back to them. Because it always used to work. But Labour isn’t that scary, and people now have other places to go.
In unconnected news, Supreme Court Justices can accept massive gifts with impunity and resist any interference with their positions as unacceptable.
There are two independent candidates in her constituency. I assume that she isn't voting for Nick Hornig, the cabbie who doesn't want to be penalised for people's "life choices" to ride bicycles, which means she must be intending to vote for David Henry, who appears to be pushing conspiracy theories about widespread sexual assault and paedophilia within the Liberal Democrats.
O-kay.
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/amazon-launch-discount-section-direct-175532721.html
Just what we need, another Temu. Amazon is already bad enough becoming infested with dodgy products.
The decision comes following an allegation on the Guido Fawkes website that Ms Passmore was seen driving a car with two different number plates. Guido Fawkes reported Ms Passmore was "spotted driving out of the Welsh Parliament's car park with her number plate hanging off, revealing a different one underneath."
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cekk99e3yjeo
Sunak is just setting up the "told you so" for after his defeat. He has given up trying anything more than setting traps.
The only candidate at the hustings I attended who acknowledged the need to tax more to pay for everything we say we want and need was the independent socialist. The other 6 were all variations on taxing billionaires to pay for everything, unspecified talk of making taxes fairer, or ignored the point.
So they sit on the sidelines and snark but have no understanding of all the difficulty of being, say the PM, because all they do is write 300 words of shit. Then they wrote another 300 words about what another similar journalist has written. And they claim it’s news “apparently x has done this”, well yes, another journalist also said “apparently x has done this” so by someone writing it it becomes something you can write about rather than spending the fucking time finding out if it happened rather than just writing about what someone else has written about.
Pfizer is a profit maximizing company. It's hard to see how *deliberately* designing a vaccine to do any - let alone all - these things would do anything to maximize Pfizer's profits.
So we've reduced the solution space by about half the universe. There's still a half universe to go, though.
EDIT: A good summation of NW, here - https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/05/books/review-outrages-naomi-wolf.html
For those who don't know - if multiple sellers are claiming to sell the same product, Amazon has been in the habit of putting the same product from different vendors in the same storage. So if some is fake, it gets mixed in with the real. IIRC one of the premium memory card manufacturers had to use lawsuits to stop the fakes being dumped on top of the ones they (the card manufacturer) were selling on Amazon.
Naomi Woolf went full David Ike* quite a while back.
*https://youtu.be/X6WHBO_Qc-Q?si=9oQvgEoGIRMwchp4&t=83
Then we can start to have a look at journalists. Can of worms has been opened.
Then Brand AFdfsdrfjkrter pops up from nowhere and spams the listings with similar products with fake reviews etc, with no guarantee they are properly safety tested etc, they get taken down and Brand Bfefrefefefe offering the same product pops up, rinse and repeat.
I mean, as an example, plenty of us on here could have given a reasoned response which would have demolished him but I haven't actually seen anyone bother. And that includes me. We have been content just to say rude things about him. Same goes for the wider press and commentators.
We make the best door retention bolts in aviation. Even Boeing use them now.
Nobody really cared and it didn't change anything
I mean, are we talking about her first book, The Beauty Myth, which contained a bunch of made up statistics about the prevalence of anorexia.
Or are we talking about Vagina, where she waxed lyrical about neuroscience. And then pretty much every neuroscientist who read it said she didn't understand neuroscience.
Or perhaps you mean Misconceptions: Truth, Lies, and the Unexpected on the Journey to Motherhood, whose entire premise is "what I went through must be exactly the same as every other woman."
There's so many examples, it's hard to know where to start.
https://www1.politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/2022/05/02/why-ukraine-was-particularly-vulnerable/
Afghanistan bowled out for 56 after winning toss - their lowest ever T20 total
Industry regulator the Gambling Commission will continue to lead inquiries into cases "where the alleged offending is limited to breaches of the Gambling Act only", a Metropolitan Police spokesperson told the BBC.
But detectives would be in charge of "a small number of cases" where other offences might also be involved, such as misconduct in public office, the spokesperson added.
BBC Newsnight understands that as many as 15 Conservative Party candidates and officials are being scrutinised by the commission.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cx8822q2jn8o
The Gambling Commission leaks like a sieve.
So it then turns to *why* he said them. And in a way, that's more interesting.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/article/2024/jun/26/labour-not-putting-up-a-fight-against-farage-in-clacton
Is it that they want Con to win in Clacton? Does someone have a bet on?
Glasto - yay!
Cricket and tennis for me today. The men’s T20 Semi-final England v India, although I’ve gone off it a bit after the ‘throw the first punch’ comment - horrible language by the coach. And ladies tennis from Eastbourne with the Brits going very well.
Unlike previous examples of a sea-change they are not promising anything very much. Their pitch is change but the message is mostly about stability.
‘Things can only get better’ would be even more apt for 2024 than 1997.
There of course a couple of cases announced so far which it looks very iffy. Now again if that is criminal rather than amoral, have to wait and see.
I think one thing that’s very noticeable this time is that the newspapers appear to be having no effect on voting intentions. Despite weeks of Daily Mail / Sun / Telegraph / Express / even Times attacks on Starmer nothing seems to shift the polls. They then seem to become even more strident, desperate even.
2024 is the General Election when the printed press died.
If it’s being played out anywhere it’s on social media.