A member of Benjamin Netanyahu’s war cabinet has moved to dissolve Israel’s government to unseat the prime minister.
Benny Gantz’s National Unity Party submitted a bill to dissolve parliament on Thursday, citing the “disaster” of October 7. He added the need “to restore the people’s trust and to establish a broad, stable unity government that can safely lead in the face of the tremendous challenges in security, in the economy and in Israeli society” after the Hamas invasion, which claimed the lives of 1,200 in a single day.
The bill was also submitted by Israel’s other opposition parties, meaning it could be brought to a vote immediately.
One thing Trump's worshippers won't be talking about is how much of the corroborating evidence came from people like Pecker or Hope Hicks, who say they still like, admire, or support Trump. It was not a litany of people who hate him, even though the box office witness, Cohen, does.
Keir Starmer is musing over about how to handle diplomatic relations with a convicted criminal if Trump is re-elected; Rishi Sunak is wondering if a misstep by Starmer might cause problems for Brits who want to move to the US; Ed Davey is psyching himself for the bungee jump.
Trump was also in a movie called 'Ghosts can't do it', about a beautiful younger woman married to an older man who kills himself, and she is trying to get his spirit to take over a younger man by killing them so they can be together again.
Keir Starmer is musing over about how to handle diplomatic relations with a convicted criminal if Trump is re-elected; Rishi Sunak is wondering if a misstep by Starmer might cause problems for Brits who want to move to the US; Ed Davey is psyching himself for the bungee jump.
Starmer is presumably cockahoop that the news will distract from his purge.
Assuming it gets that far. @Leon has a point - you want a civil war, you point out that their messiah is a crook.
But, and its a fundamental but - he IS a crook. So-called patriots will be foaming that the only way to protect the constitution is to bin the constitution. The Rule of Law applies to all or it applies to none.
Do you think Bill Clinton's "bimbo eruption" payoffs were all properly accounted for?
Whataboutery at its absolute finest.
You said that, "The Rule of Law applies to all or it applies to none." If the law is being used unequally to target one man for political reasons, then there's a problem.
This verdict has probably decided the presidential election in my view.
Had Trump been acquitted he would probably have won with 51%, now he has been found guilty Biden will probably be re elected with 51% as the key Independent swing voters move back his way.
Most US voters won't change their mind because of this and Trump will still get his 45%+ core vote but it may have locked in the key swing voters for Biden, especially those who voted for Obama in 2012, Trump or Johnson in 2016 and Biden in 2020
“On 3 June, the trial of Hunter Biden on federal gun charges kicks off in Delaware. Seemingly clueless to this reality, the president hosted his prodigal son at a recent state dinner for William Ruto, the president of Kenya. Hunter Biden also faces a trial on criminal tax charges in early September, just as the fall campaign begins in earnest.”
But then I’m sourcing that well known Trumpite rag…. The Guardian
Keir Starmer is musing over about how to handle diplomatic relations with a convicted criminal if Trump is re-elected; Rishi Sunak is wondering if a misstep by Starmer might cause problems for Brits who want to move to the US; Ed Davey is psyching himself for the bungee jump.
Starmer is presumably cockahoop that the news will distract from his purge.
Yes, tomorrow will be a good day to finish any finishings that have to be made for the Greater Party.
I think the judge will send Donald to jail... Probably a short sentence of 30 days or something like that but I have a feeling the judge will make an example of him.
Assuming it gets that far. @Leon has a point - you want a civil war, you point out that their messiah is a crook.
But, and its a fundamental but - he IS a crook. So-called patriots will be foaming that the only way to protect the constitution is to bin the constitution. The Rule of Law applies to all or it applies to none.
Do you think Bill Clinton's "bimbo eruption" payoffs were all properly accounted for?
Whataboutery at its absolute finest.
You said that, "The Rule of Law applies to all or it applies to none." If the law is being used unequally to target one man for political reasons, then there's a problem.
People are prosecuted for falsifying business records all the time. Selective prosecution can be argued (it probably was pre-trial, and presumably was rejected), but a failure to hold one person to account does not mean everyone should not be held to account.
There's a Democratic Senator on trial for corruption right now, he looks dead to rights by the SC has made convicting corruption very difficult, so hopefully they get him.
“On 3 June, the trial of Hunter Biden on federal gun charges kicks off in Delaware. Seemingly clueless to this reality, the president hosted his prodigal son at a recent state dinner for William Ruto, the president of Kenya. Hunter Biden also faces a trial on criminal tax charges in early September, just as the fall campaign begins in earnest.”
But then I’m sourcing that well known Trumpite rag…. The Guardian
Assuming it gets that far. @Leon has a point - you want a civil war, you point out that their messiah is a crook.
But, and its a fundamental but - he IS a crook. So-called patriots will be foaming that the only way to protect the constitution is to bin the constitution. The Rule of Law applies to all or it applies to none.
Do you think Bill Clinton's "bimbo eruption" payoffs were all properly accounted for?
Whataboutery at its absolute finest.
You said that, "The Rule of Law applies to all or it applies to none." If the law is being used unequally to target one man for political reasons, then there's a problem.
Assuming it gets that far. @Leon has a point - you want a civil war, you point out that their messiah is a crook.
But, and its a fundamental but - he IS a crook. So-called patriots will be foaming that the only way to protect the constitution is to bin the constitution. The Rule of Law applies to all or it applies to none.
Do you think Bill Clinton's "bimbo eruption" payoffs were all properly accounted for?
Whataboutery at its absolute finest.
You said that, "The Rule of Law applies to all or it applies to none." If the law is being used unequally to target one man for political reasons, then there's a problem.
Assuming it gets that far. @Leon has a point - you want a civil war, you point out that their messiah is a crook.
But, and its a fundamental but - he IS a crook. So-called patriots will be foaming that the only way to protect the constitution is to bin the constitution. The Rule of Law applies to all or it applies to none.
Do you think Bill Clinton's "bimbo eruption" payoffs were all properly accounted for?
Whataboutery at its absolute finest.
You said that, "The Rule of Law applies to all or it applies to none." If the law is being used unequally to target one man for political reasons, then there's a problem.
“On 3 June, the trial of Hunter Biden on federal gun charges kicks off in Delaware. Seemingly clueless to this reality, the president hosted his prodigal son at a recent state dinner for William Ruto, the president of Kenya. Hunter Biden also faces a trial on criminal tax charges in early September, just as the fall campaign begins in earnest.”
But then I’m sourcing that well known Trumpite rag…. The Guardian
I think the judge will send Donald to jail... Probably a short sentence of 30 days or something like that but I have a feeling the judge will make an example of him.
Given there's no chance of him serving it whilst the conviction itself is being appealed, if it is an available punishment then it would be warranted (especially with all the contempt of court Trump engaged in), the judge could issue that sentence without anyone worrying it would prevent Trump from campaigning.
“On 3 June, the trial of Hunter Biden on federal gun charges kicks off in Delaware. Seemingly clueless to this reality, the president hosted his prodigal son at a recent state dinner for William Ruto, the president of Kenya. Hunter Biden also faces a trial on criminal tax charges in early September, just as the fall campaign begins in earnest.”
But then I’m sourcing that well known Trumpite rag…. The Guardian
“On 3 June, the trial of Hunter Biden on federal gun charges kicks off in Delaware. Seemingly clueless to this reality, the president hosted his prodigal son at a recent state dinner for William Ruto, the president of Kenya. Hunter Biden also faces a trial on criminal tax charges in early September, just as the fall campaign begins in earnest.”
But then I’m sourcing that well known Trumpite rag…. The Guardian
I think the judge will send Donald to jail... Probably a short sentence of 30 days or something like that but I have a feeling the judge will make an example of him.
Not entirely convinced his remarks will help. They are probably enough to bang him up for contempt.
“On 3 June, the trial of Hunter Biden on federal gun charges kicks off in Delaware. Seemingly clueless to this reality, the president hosted his prodigal son at a recent state dinner for William Ruto, the president of Kenya. Hunter Biden also faces a trial on criminal tax charges in early September, just as the fall campaign begins in earnest.”
But then I’m sourcing that well known Trumpite rag…. The Guardian
Speaker Mike Johnson has really disgraced himself and his office tonight.
Desperate knee bending fawning bollocks.
Shameful.
But the GOP is finished as a proper party. It is a cult.
I keep hoping that they will take a step back but they double down every time.
Apparently his campaign has said he is a political prisoner and asking for money to help at this critical time. He is beyond shame.
He sells sneakers, bibles with his name on them, bits of his suit from when he was indicted, they are very creative.
The GOP are just in too deep - those who were not on the Trump train knew he had enough support and money to run as an independent and screw them completely, or they could kowtow and hope to be on the winning side at least. Almost of them made the choice.
Assuming it gets that far. @Leon has a point - you want a civil war, you point out that their messiah is a crook.
But, and its a fundamental but - he IS a crook. So-called patriots will be foaming that the only way to protect the constitution is to bin the constitution. The Rule of Law applies to all or it applies to none.
Do you think Bill Clinton's "bimbo eruption" payoffs were all properly accounted for?
Whataboutery at its absolute finest.
You said that, "The Rule of Law applies to all or it applies to none." If the law is being used unequally to target one man for political reasons, then there's a problem.
Speaker Mike Johnson has really disgraced himself and his office tonight.
That last word is superfluous.
D'you reckon he could be jailed for contempt as well?
I am not sure that there are outstanding complaints of contempt. I thought there was but I have read that other than another $1k fine the other charges were dismissed. Not sure if the court will take the view that the order remains in place but his statement really pushed the boundaries once again.
What is Ed Davey's desperate PR stunt for tomorrow? Chainsaw Juggling?
Visiting the key marginal of Crinkly Bottom. Word has reached Ed that their Gunge Tank has broken, and he's determined to fix it personally, even if that involves a degree of personal risk.
She's angling for the VP slot, but she said too many nasty things about him to get it by his choice. Maybe she will try to get the spot by saying she will go against him if he does not, due to the verdict.
It is notable how nearly everyone who worked for Trump when president says he is terrible and should not be president...though only a handful of those then followed through. Not that they would support Biden, that was improbable, but Pence has said Trump should never be president again, but then still said he will vote for him.
This verdict has probably decided the presidential election in my view.
Had Trump been acquitted he would probably have won with 51%, now he has been found guilty Biden will probably be re elected with 51% as the key Independent swing voters move back his way.
Most US voters won't change their mind because of this and Trump will still get his 45%+ core vote but it may have locked in the key swing voters for Biden, especially those who voted for Obama in 2012, Trump or Johnson in 2016 and Biden in 2020
This is a very judicious assessment. As ever @HYUFD you are commendably objective
The conviction of trump makes his election less likely. But still quite possible. Is all
Keir Starmer is musing over about how to handle diplomatic relations with a convicted criminal if Trump is re-elected; Rishi Sunak is wondering if a misstep by Starmer might cause problems for Brits who want to move to the US; Ed Davey is psyching himself for the bungee jump.
Starmer is presumably cockahoop that the news will distract from his purge.
Thank you to the professor who's clearly keeping his nose glued to his screen.
There's no diplomatic problem whatsofuckingever in dealing with a foreign head of state who's got a criminal conviction in the state he's head of.
The thing about criminals - in particular stupid, venal, lying, manipulative, racist, sex-offending, democracy-defying, corrupt, fraudulent criminals - is that they are seldom as clever or persuasive as they think they are.
And they eventually find that they can’t buy justice.
“On 3 June, the trial of Hunter Biden on federal gun charges kicks off in Delaware. Seemingly clueless to this reality, the president hosted his prodigal son at a recent state dinner for William Ruto, the president of Kenya. Hunter Biden also faces a trial on criminal tax charges in early September, just as the fall campaign begins in earnest.”
But then I’m sourcing that well known Trumpite rag…. The Guardian
Given the Republicans have seriously delayed H. Biden's trial, interfered with due process, falsified evidence including showing illegal and doctored pornographic images and repeatedly lied about doing so, I'm not altogether sure that's true.
Hunter Biden would have been convicted three years ago but for Majorie Taylor Greene's behaviour, while now there's a reasonable chance her meddling will see him get away with everything.
“On 3 June, the trial of Hunter Biden on federal gun charges kicks off in Delaware. Seemingly clueless to this reality, the president hosted his prodigal son at a recent state dinner for William Ruto, the president of Kenya. Hunter Biden also faces a trial on criminal tax charges in early September, just as the fall campaign begins in earnest.”
But then I’m sourcing that well known Trumpite rag…. The Guardian
“On 3 June, the trial of Hunter Biden on federal gun charges kicks off in Delaware. Seemingly clueless to this reality, the president hosted his prodigal son at a recent state dinner for William Ruto, the president of Kenya. Hunter Biden also faces a trial on criminal tax charges in early September, just as the fall campaign begins in earnest.”
But then I’m sourcing that well known Trumpite rag…. The Guardian
Speaker Mike Johnson has really disgraced himself and his office tonight.
That last word is superfluous.
D'you reckon he could be jailed for contempt as well?
I am not sure that there are outstanding complaints of contempt. I thought there was but I have read that other than another $1k fine the other charges were dismissed. Not sure if the court will take the view that the order remains in place but his statement really pushed the boundaries once again.
Will Hutton @williamnhutton · 22m Be clear. After conviction of all 34 charges against him Trump’s Presidential candidature is now dead. And the US is heading for existential levels of division .
Voters like Tories’ policies — but Labour still well ahead in poll
Pledges on national service and cutting tax for pensioners have gone down well, but Rishi Sunak is struggling to convince voters
The Tories are struggling to convert popular policy pledges into increased support, as Labour maintains its commanding lead over the Conservatives in the polls.
The latest YouGov survey of voting intention for The Times shows the Tories are still trailing Labour by 25 points, a week into the campaign.
This is despite significant backing for Conservative plans to provide a tax cut for pensioners, scrap so-called “Mickey Mouse” degrees, and to bring in national service for 18-year-olds.
Overall YouGov found that just 6 per cent of voters had a better view of the Conservative party as a result of what they had seen and heard during the campaign so far, while 18 per cent had a worse view.
In contrast Labour, which has made no significant policy announcements, did better. YouGov found that 12 per cent of voters said they had a better view of Labour than they had at the start of the campaign while 10 per cent had a worse view.
Overall the Conservatives are up one point on 21 per cent, Labour are down one point on 46 per cent while support for Reform UK has increased from 12 per cent to 15 per cent. The Liberal Democrats are down one point on 8 per cent.
The Tories’ low ratings came despite the poll finding that showed Rishi Sunak’s policy blitz had been largely popular with voters.
The thing about criminals - in particular stupid, venal, lying, manipulative, racist, sex-offending, democracy-defying, corrupt, fraudulent criminals - is that they are seldom as clever or persuasive as they think they are.
And they eventually find that they can’t buy justice.
Occasionally they find they can't buy justice.
Trump has used his vast resources to delay all the more serious trials until after the election.
He's used the avenues the law allows that anyone could theoretically use (apart from in Florida, where the judge would not likely be as sympathetic to someone besides him), but its only due to his wealth that he's been able to do so as effectively. A poor person would not have bought that time, and would probably not have been out of jail before the trials.
“On 3 June, the trial of Hunter Biden on federal gun charges kicks off in Delaware. Seemingly clueless to this reality, the president hosted his prodigal son at a recent state dinner for William Ruto, the president of Kenya. Hunter Biden also faces a trial on criminal tax charges in early September, just as the fall campaign begins in earnest.”
But then I’m sourcing that well known Trumpite rag…. The Guardian
Will Hutton @williamnhutton · 22m Be clear. After conviction of all 34 charges against him Trump’s Presidential candidature is now dead. And the US is heading for existential levels of division .
Speaker Mike Johnson has really disgraced himself and his office tonight.
That last word is superfluous.
D'you reckon he could be jailed for contempt as well?
I am not sure that there are outstanding complaints of contempt. I thought there was but I have read that other than another $1k fine the other charges were dismissed. Not sure if the court will take the view that the order remains in place but his statement really pushed the boundaries once again.
There are probably 87+ outstanding acts of contempt; we need to wait for the Judge's sentencing.
"While I'm at it, here are 30 days for each of your 65 acts of contempt, to be served consecutively."
It won't happen quite in that way, but something is possible for a subset imo - say half a dozen since he was sanctioned then warned repeatedly that "incarceration" may be involved if there are further offences.
There were further offences,
I'm off to watch some Fox clips .
There's hope for the USA yet.
What I really want is all the Congressmen who were Trump-dicksucking-idiots-for-Trump and came to NY expressly to break the court orders, and in some cases said so, to be locked up for 30 days so Mr Biden gets a majority and some laws can be passed to put some decent rules in place to disembowel MAGA by outlawing manipulation as has been done.
Assuming it gets that far. @Leon has a point - you want a civil war, you point out that their messiah is a crook.
But, and its a fundamental but - he IS a crook. So-called patriots will be foaming that the only way to protect the constitution is to bin the constitution. The Rule of Law applies to all or it applies to none.
Do you think Bill Clinton's "bimbo eruption" payoffs were all properly accounted for?
Whataboutery at its absolute finest.
You said that, "The Rule of Law applies to all or it applies to none." If the law is being used unequally to target one man for political reasons, then there's a problem.
Indeed! The problem for you is that whataboutery doesn't count as evidence.
Its the exact same thing as "what about Starmer's curry" - what about it?
If Trump gets sent to prison and can't attend the GOP convention, surely Haley will make a move?
Stop imagining he’ll get sent to prison. A prison sentence isn’t that likely for these offences and there would be appeals for ages even if he was given a prison sentence.
Are jail sentences automatically stayed pending an appeal in New York? My impression was they were not, but that's based on very limited knowledge - essentially Harvey Weinstein who was a violent offender and a risk to women.*
I imagine a fine would be stayed on posting a bond?
*This last is also true of Trump, but not relevant to the case at hand.
Will Hutton @williamnhutton Be clear. After conviction of all 34 charges against him Trump’s Presidential candidature is now dead. And the US is heading for existential levels of division .
I began reading Will Hutton's contributions to the Guardian/Observer about three decades ago, but I have long since stopped bothering, as you know that his thesis is always simply wish fulfilment. Wanting something to be true is not enough to make it true.
Trump can no longer vote for himself as a convicted felon?
Floridian law was changed a few years ago to re-enfranchise felons who are not actually serving a sentence at the time of the election so he will be able to vote for himself. Even if the judge imposed a custodial sentence it would be suspended pending his appeal.
Speaker Mike Johnson has really disgraced himself and his office tonight.
That last word is superfluous.
D'you reckon he could be jailed for contempt as well?
I am not sure that there are outstanding complaints of contempt. I thought there was but I have read that other than another $1k fine the other charges were dismissed. Not sure if the court will take the view that the order remains in place but his statement really pushed the boundaries once again.
I meant Johnson!
Disagreeing with a verdict is not contempt of court.
Speaker Mike Johnson has really disgraced himself and his office tonight.
That last word is superfluous.
D'you reckon he could be jailed for contempt as well?
I am not sure that there are outstanding complaints of contempt. I thought there was but I have read that other than another $1k fine the other charges were dismissed. Not sure if the court will take the view that the order remains in place but his statement really pushed the boundaries once again.
I meant Johnson!
Protected political speech. Even if it’s inflammatory lies.
Voters like Tories’ policies — but Labour still well ahead in poll
Pledges on national service and cutting tax for pensioners have gone down well, but Rishi Sunak is struggling to convince voters
The Tories are struggling to convert popular policy pledges into increased support, as Labour maintains its commanding lead over the Conservatives in the polls.
The latest YouGov survey of voting intention for The Times shows the Tories are still trailing Labour by 25 points, a week into the campaign.
This is despite significant backing for Conservative plans to provide a tax cut for pensioners, scrap so-called “Mickey Mouse” degrees, and to bring in national service for 18-year-olds.
Overall YouGov found that just 6 per cent of voters had a better view of the Conservative party as a result of what they had seen and heard during the campaign so far, while 18 per cent had a worse view.
In contrast Labour, which has made no significant policy announcements, did better. YouGov found that 12 per cent of voters said they had a better view of Labour than they had at the start of the campaign while 10 per cent had a worse view.
Overall the Conservatives are up one point on 21 per cent, Labour are down one point on 46 per cent while support for Reform UK has increased from 12 per cent to 15 per cent. The Liberal Democrats are down one point on 8 per cent.
The Tories’ low ratings came despite the poll finding that showed Rishi Sunak’s policy blitz had been largely popular with voters.
If Trump gets sent to prison and can't attend the GOP convention, surely Haley will make a move?
Stop imagining he’ll get sent to prison. A prison sentence isn’t that likely for these offences and there would be appeals for ages even if he was given a prison sentence.
In the BBC report on the radio they quoted the judge from earlier in the trial saying that basically they won't send him to jail for a number of reasons. The question is really is the punishment just financial, will it include restrictions on movement while doing some sort of community service, etc.
Anyone who thinks a conviction finishes off Trump would be overreacting of course. Anyone who thinks it means literally nothing is underreacting.
Either way, if people think it all came down to the testimony of one witness or that there is no real charge behind it, they have not been following the coverage day by day - obviously pro and anti-Trump media has interpreted things very differently, but there was a lot more to go through than just one awful person claimed Trump did X.
Speaker Mike Johnson has really disgraced himself and his office tonight.
That last word is superfluous.
D'you reckon he could be jailed for contempt as well?
I am not sure that there are outstanding complaints of contempt. I thought there was but I have read that other than another $1k fine the other charges were dismissed. Not sure if the court will take the view that the order remains in place but his statement really pushed the boundaries once again.
I meant Johnson!
Disagreeing with a verdict is not contempt of court.
He went way, way beyond disagreeing with the verdict in effectively accusing the court of corruption.
This was a purely political exercise, not a legal one.
Voters like Tories’ policies — but Labour still well ahead in poll
Pledges on national service and cutting tax for pensioners have gone down well, but Rishi Sunak is struggling to convince voters
The Tories are struggling to convert popular policy pledges into increased support, as Labour maintains its commanding lead over the Conservatives in the polls.
The latest YouGov survey of voting intention for The Times shows the Tories are still trailing Labour by 25 points, a week into the campaign.
This is despite significant backing for Conservative plans to provide a tax cut for pensioners, scrap so-called “Mickey Mouse” degrees, and to bring in national service for 18-year-olds.
Overall YouGov found that just 6 per cent of voters had a better view of the Conservative party as a result of what they had seen and heard during the campaign so far, while 18 per cent had a worse view.
In contrast Labour, which has made no significant policy announcements, did better. YouGov found that 12 per cent of voters said they had a better view of Labour than they had at the start of the campaign while 10 per cent had a worse view.
Overall the Conservatives are up one point on 21 per cent, Labour are down one point on 46 per cent while support for Reform UK has increased from 12 per cent to 15 per cent. The Liberal Democrats are down one point on 8 per cent.
The Tories’ low ratings came despite the poll finding that showed Rishi Sunak’s policy blitz had been largely popular with voters.
“On 3 June, the trial of Hunter Biden on federal gun charges kicks off in Delaware. Seemingly clueless to this reality, the president hosted his prodigal son at a recent state dinner for William Ruto, the president of Kenya. Hunter Biden also faces a trial on criminal tax charges in early September, just as the fall campaign begins in earnest.”
But then I’m sourcing that well known Trumpite rag…. The Guardian
If Trump really is as bad/dangerous as Hitler, then him going to jail would fit the model. Especially if he writes a book...
I think this reduces the chance of a second Trump term but increases the chance of serious unrest. Especially as it has happened just before the summer gets going - rioting in November is a miserable experience.
Voters like Tories’ policies — but Labour still well ahead in poll
Pledges on national service and cutting tax for pensioners have gone down well, but Rishi Sunak is struggling to convince voters
The Tories are struggling to convert popular policy pledges into increased support, as Labour maintains its commanding lead over the Conservatives in the polls.
The latest YouGov survey of voting intention for The Times shows the Tories are still trailing Labour by 25 points, a week into the campaign.
This is despite significant backing for Conservative plans to provide a tax cut for pensioners, scrap so-called “Mickey Mouse” degrees, and to bring in national service for 18-year-olds.
Overall YouGov found that just 6 per cent of voters had a better view of the Conservative party as a result of what they had seen and heard during the campaign so far, while 18 per cent had a worse view.
In contrast Labour, which has made no significant policy announcements, did better. YouGov found that 12 per cent of voters said they had a better view of Labour than they had at the start of the campaign while 10 per cent had a worse view.
Overall the Conservatives are up one point on 21 per cent, Labour are down one point on 46 per cent while support for Reform UK has increased from 12 per cent to 15 per cent. The Liberal Democrats are down one point on 8 per cent.
The Tories’ low ratings came despite the poll finding that showed Rishi Sunak’s policy blitz had been largely popular with voters.
Speaker Mike Johnson has really disgraced himself and his office tonight.
Desperate knee bending fawning bollocks.
Shameful.
But the GOP is finished as a proper party. It is a cult.
I keep hoping that they will take a step back but they double down every time.
Apparently his campaign has said he is a political prisoner and asking for money to help at this critical time. He is beyond shame.
He sells sneakers, bibles with his name on them, bits of his suit from when he was indicted, they are very creative.
The GOP are just in too deep - those who were not on the Trump train knew he had enough support and money to run as an independent and screw them completely, or they could kowtow and hope to be on the winning side at least. Almost of them made the choice.
It's a while since we have had any quotes from the Scottish Play, but the line about I am in blood, Steeped so far sums it up. Having got on board the Trump Train, and stayed on it after 2020, they can't get off now even if they wanted to. It would invite rage from the Donald, and highlight what dreadful judges of character they are. So they have all been stuck. Serves them right, really.
One of Sunak's problems is that he has never really resolved that question with respect to Boris. Clearly he did knife BoJo over something... but what? And what stopped him doing it earlier?
Speaker Mike Johnson has really disgraced himself and his office tonight.
That last word is superfluous.
D'you reckon he could be jailed for contempt as well?
I am not sure that there are outstanding complaints of contempt. I thought there was but I have read that other than another $1k fine the other charges were dismissed. Not sure if the court will take the view that the order remains in place but his statement really pushed the boundaries once again.
I meant Johnson!
Disagreeing with a verdict is not contempt of court.
He went way, way beyond disagreeing with the verdict in effectively accusing the court of corruption.
This was a purely political exercise, not a legal one.
He’s not interfering with the case, however, because the case is over. Contempt of court is a quite specific thing, not just disagreeing with a verdict or saying rude things about a verdict.
Speaker Mike Johnson has really disgraced himself and his office tonight.
That last word is superfluous.
D'you reckon he could be jailed for contempt as well?
I am not sure that there are outstanding complaints of contempt. I thought there was but I have read that other than another $1k fine the other charges were dismissed. Not sure if the court will take the view that the order remains in place but his statement really pushed the boundaries once again.
I meant Johnson!
Disagreeing with a verdict is not contempt of court.
He went way, way beyond disagreeing with the verdict in effectively accusing the court of corruption.
This was a purely political exercise, not a legal one.
I think most people in public office would be careful and measured in attacking a judge or judicial process but it is certainly not criminal to do so. He may have a problem the next time that he needs Democratic support to protect him from the loons in his party, however.
If Trump gets sent to prison and can't attend the GOP convention, surely Haley will make a move?
She won't get it though unless she convinces Trump delegates to switch their support to her in smoke filled rooms at the convention
It's never going to happen! If they don't select Trump as the candidate they lose loads of voters, which probably hits them down the ballot as well.
They calculated having a potentially convicted felon as the nominee would lose them less votes up and down the ballot, and barely even attempted to consider alternatives.
Hopefully they are wrong, and it costs the GOP in the Senate and House as well, because they need to learn a lesson from this.
In a terrible and probably fatal blow to the Allied war efforts, Adolf Hitler today put himself beyond the reach of all their guns and bombs by shooting himself in the head and catching fire.
"It's terrible optics for the Soviets, British, and Americans," said spokeman Tean Schomaß. "They were trying to kill The Fuhrer, and now they cannot. This probably spells the end for democracy."
Not being funny but that Pakistan keeper, did he lose a bet?
He certainly didn't seem to have missed any meals, even if he was not so good with cricket balls. A tremendous batsman but you can't hide an unfit fielder as wicket keeper. Pakistan are going to have to change this.
“On 3 June, the trial of Hunter Biden on federal gun charges kicks off in Delaware. Seemingly clueless to this reality, the president hosted his prodigal son at a recent state dinner for William Ruto, the president of Kenya. Hunter Biden also faces a trial on criminal tax charges in early September, just as the fall campaign begins in earnest.”
But then I’m sourcing that well known Trumpite rag…. The Guardian
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A member of Benjamin Netanyahu’s war cabinet has moved to dissolve Israel’s government to unseat the prime minister.
Benny Gantz’s National Unity Party submitted a bill to dissolve parliament on Thursday, citing the “disaster” of October 7. He added the need “to restore the people’s trust and to establish a broad, stable unity government that can safely lead in the face of the tremendous challenges in security, in the economy and in Israeli society” after the Hamas invasion, which claimed the lives of 1,200 in a single day.
The bill was also submitted by Israel’s other opposition parties, meaning it could be brought to a vote immediately.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2024/05/30/netanyahu-war-cabinet-israel-government-dissolve-unseat-pm/
Keir Starmer is musing over about how to handle diplomatic relations with a convicted criminal if Trump is re-elected; Rishi Sunak is wondering if a misstep by Starmer might cause problems for Brits who want to move to the US; Ed Davey is psyching himself for the bungee jump.
No, he was not the lead.
D'you reckon he could be jailed for contempt as well?
Had Trump been acquitted he would probably have won with 51%, now he has been found guilty Biden will probably be re elected with 51% as the key Independent swing voters move back his way.
Most US voters won't change their mind because of this and Trump will still get his 45%+ core vote but it may have locked in the key swing voters for Biden, especially those who voted for Obama in 2012, Trump or Johnson in 2016 and Biden in 2020
Shameful.
But the GOP is finished as a proper party. It is a cult.
I’ve reloaded on my Trump short, which I’d been easing off on a month or so back.
“On 3 June, the trial of Hunter Biden on federal gun charges kicks off in Delaware. Seemingly clueless to this reality, the president hosted his prodigal son at a recent state dinner for William Ruto, the president of Kenya. Hunter Biden also faces a trial on criminal tax charges in early September, just as the fall campaign begins in earnest.”
But then I’m sourcing that well known Trumpite rag…. The Guardian
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/article/2024/may/30/trump-convicted-trial-election
There's a Democratic Senator on trial for corruption right now, he looks dead to rights by the SC has made convicting corruption very difficult, so hopefully they get him.
But it isn't.
Huge, if true.
https://x.com/nigel_farage/status/1796290897631699432?s=46
Apparently his campaign has said he is a political prisoner and asking for money to help at this critical time. He is beyond shame.
They are probably enough to bang him up for contempt.
2. But a Biden walkover seems unlikely.
3. Conclusion: something's gotta break.
Watch Haley. She may seriously want to take over the ultra-obnoxious shitbag ticket:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/us/politics/2024/05/29/nikki-haley-signs-shell-israel-visit-gaza-hama/
The GOP are just in too deep - those who were not on the Trump train knew he had enough support and money to run as an independent and screw them completely, or they could kowtow and hope to be on the winning side at least. Almost of them made the choice.
(Plus those who voted for Truss.)
And it’s simply a lie to say that “the Biden Administration” brought this case.
It is notable how nearly everyone who worked for Trump when president says he is terrible and should not be president...though only a handful of those then followed through. Not that they would support Biden, that was improbable, but Pence has said Trump should never be president again, but then still said he will vote for him.
Trump did not .. er .. last as long as I was expecting.
The conviction of trump makes his election less likely. But still quite possible. Is all
There's no diplomatic problem whatsofuckingever in dealing with a foreign head of state who's got a criminal conviction in the state he's head of.
The thing about criminals - in particular stupid, venal, lying, manipulative, racist, sex-offending, democracy-defying, corrupt, fraudulent criminals - is that they are seldom as clever or persuasive as they think they are.
And they eventually find that they can’t buy justice.
Hunter Biden would have been convicted three years ago but for Majorie Taylor Greene's behaviour, while now there's a reasonable chance her meddling will see him get away with everything.
All it shows is that the law takes its course.
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Be clear. After conviction of all 34 charges against him Trump’s Presidential candidature is now dead. And the US is heading for existential levels of division .
https://x.com/williamnhutton/status/1796291971675513090
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Nope.
Pledges on national service and cutting tax for pensioners have gone down well, but Rishi Sunak is struggling to convince voters
The Tories are struggling to convert popular policy pledges into increased support, as Labour maintains its commanding lead over the Conservatives in the polls.
The latest YouGov survey of voting intention for The Times shows the Tories are still trailing Labour by 25 points, a week into the campaign.
This is despite significant backing for Conservative plans to provide a tax cut for pensioners, scrap so-called “Mickey Mouse” degrees, and to bring in national service for 18-year-olds.
Overall YouGov found that just 6 per cent of voters had a better view of the Conservative party as a result of what they had seen and heard during the campaign so far, while 18 per cent had a worse view.
In contrast Labour, which has made no significant policy announcements, did better. YouGov found that 12 per cent of voters said they had a better view of Labour than they had at the start of the campaign while 10 per cent had a worse view.
Overall the Conservatives are up one point on 21 per cent, Labour are down one point on 46 per cent while support for Reform UK has increased from 12 per cent to 15 per cent. The Liberal Democrats are down one point on 8 per cent.
The Tories’ low ratings came despite the poll finding that showed Rishi Sunak’s policy blitz had been largely popular with voters.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/voters-like-tories-policies-but-labour-still-well-ahead-in-poll-skt299gb7
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Starmer a lucky general tonight as his major campaign wobble blown off front pages and morning telly by Trump.
Trump has used his vast resources to delay all the more serious trials until after the election.
He's used the avenues the law allows that anyone could theoretically use (apart from in Florida, where the judge would not likely be as sympathetic to someone besides him), but its only due to his wealth that he's been able to do so as effectively. A poor person would not have bought that time, and would probably not have been out of jail before the trials.
https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/sick-of-cornwall-visit-cornouaille/
One of their most read articles of the entire week, it seems
"While I'm at it, here are 30 days for each of your 65 acts of contempt, to be served consecutively."
It won't happen quite in that way, but something is possible for a subset imo - say half a dozen since he was sanctioned then warned repeatedly that "incarceration" may be involved if there are further offences.
There were further offences,
I'm off to watch some Fox clips .
There's hope for the USA yet.
What I really want is all the Congressmen who were Trump-dicksucking-idiots-for-Trump and came to NY expressly to break the court orders, and in some cases said so, to be locked up for 30 days so Mr Biden gets a majority and some laws can be passed to put some decent rules in place to disembowel MAGA by outlawing manipulation as has been done.
Its the exact same thing as "what about Starmer's curry" - what about it?
I imagine a fine would be stayed on posting a bond?
*This last is also true of Trump, but not relevant to the case at hand.
Even if it’s inflammatory lies.
Nothing CON do from here will change that inevitability.
Either way, if people think it all came down to the testimony of one witness or that there is no real charge behind it, they have not been following the coverage day by day - obviously pro and anti-Trump media has interpreted things very differently, but there was a lot more to go through than just one awful person claimed Trump did X.
https://www.yourharlow.com/2024/05/30/conservatives-select-hannah-ellis-to-fight-general-election-in-harlow/
This was a purely political exercise, not a legal one.
https://x.com/susie_dent/status/1796297253872918654?s=46
They call for “equal protection of the law” from the moment of fertilization.
https://x.com/SawyerHackett/status/1796193038668030238
I think this reduces the chance of a second Trump term but increases the chance of serious unrest. Especially as it has happened just before the summer gets going - rioting in November is a miserable experience.
'He thinks a balanced diet is a cheeseburger in each hand.'
One of Sunak's problems is that he has never really resolved that question with respect to Boris. Clearly he did knife BoJo over something... but what? And what stopped him doing it earlier?
They calculated having a potentially convicted felon as the nominee would lose them less votes up and down the ballot, and barely even attempted to consider alternatives.
Hopefully they are wrong, and it costs the GOP in the Senate and House as well, because they need to learn a lesson from this.
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A tremendous batsman but you can't hide an unfit fielder as wicket keeper. Pakistan are going to have to change this.
Maybe Mr brain parasite RJK Jr will win after all (he won't), he's youthful by comparison to both.