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Has Rayner cost Labour the votes of short men? – politicalbetting.com
Has Rayner cost Labour the votes of short men? – politicalbetting.com
Scenes in the Commons, where Angela Rayner has just called Rishi Sunak a "pint-size loser" #pmqs pic.twitter.com/2ujVX2RvFZ
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A lot of Tories seem to be getting upset about Angela Rayner quoting Nadine Dorries today.
I suspect we'd get all sorts of comments about the nasty Tories and discrimination.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-68872429
Rayner was and is an obnoxious oaf. What people see in her, as a positive, is beyond me.
That's not a good thing.
And she's said "Tory Scum" in the past, which was entirely her own.
As I said yesterday, I don't think it'll shift votes. It does firm up my view that Rayner's more of a liability than a benefit to Labour's front bench, though.
Rayners comment was below the belt, but hit home. The "pint-sized" descriptor was less damaging than "loser", which the voters and MPs know to be true. Sunak is at his worst when he loses his temper, he won't respond well to it.
Cakes and drinks sweetener neotame can damage gut wall, scientists find
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/apr/24/cakes-and-drinks-sweetener-neotame-e961-can-damage-gut-wall-scientists-find
..Even a low intake of neotame might be harmful, Chichger stressed. “Even when we studied neotame at very low concentrations, 10 times lower than the acceptable daily intake, we saw the breakdown of the gut barrier and a shift in bacteria to a more damaging behaviour, including increased invasion of healthy gut cells leading to cell death. This can be linked to issues such as irritable bowel diseases and sepsis,” she said.
The European Food Safety Authority ruled in 2010 that neotame was “safe for use”. It has since been approved for use in more than 35 countries. But Efsa is now reviewing the safety of neotame as part of what Chichger said is a series of evidence-based risk assessments which may lead to a reassessment of certain sweeteners...
The interaction of artificial sweeteners with the gut microbiome needs a great deal more study.
And quoting someone is a feeble excuse, especially from someone who derided political opponents as 'scum' and had to have an apology dragged out of her.
According to middle class, white, centrist dad commentators and hacks on twitter.
Costs need to be cut, and the current direct award contracts add no value for the % they consume. Removing them makes sense to anyone other than a rampant ideologue which is why the Tories proposed it.
The obvious next step is to accelerate a new program of train building. Tory incompetence also cost us the Derby factory until they (finally) accepted they needed to place an order or lose it. Capacity is the issue and there aren't the additional paths available, so run longer trains. Make the railways usable again and passengers come back, revenues go up and costs per mile go down.
I don't believe that this sort of nonsense will shift any votes other than possibly to the DNV party.
But sometimes nasty works in politics.
When it eventually came to Smith’s turn, he simply and quietly asked Dowden the following: “He praised the prime minister for restoring stability. Who does he think caused the instability?”
The deputy prime minister knew he’d been clean bowled. He did his very best oleaginous smile, but the middle stump was out of the ground.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/6d3da246-f40e-4723-a0e4-694d5b53090
Which is why Rishi was doomed from the beginning.
"May I ask the PM why the govt is so brilliant and the opposition so shit?" and vice versa. It would be barely watchable if you had two charismatic engaging characters in the lead roles rather than charisma bypasses.
As for Rayner, as we know from here and social media, she can do no wrong so her insult will be perfectly acceptable to people who would be outraged if it was from the other side. Obviously the same applies in reverse.
Even if it was indeed a former government front bencher who coined the phrase in respect of Sunak.
Had no idea the remaining PB Tory Ultras were such fans of cancel culture.
I have a weakness for redheads, each one of them was bullied for being a soulless ginger.
https://twitter.com/MuseZack/status/1783156653246017923/photo/1
Anyway..
https://youtu.be/8bfyS-S-IJs?si=HfRPxyevbgI8r-O-
https://m.koreatimes.co.kr/pages/article.asp?newsIdx=373421
I’m 5 foot six, and Mrs. OKC was a redhead back in the day. Should that make me ….. us….. aggressive and resentful?
I don’t think I am, and my wife certainly isn’t.
As dislikeable as Bercow is that wasn't in order or Prime Ministerial either.
I doubt she has any name recognition in many of these places. Most politicians don't. I live in a red wall area. I doubt anyone here cares a toss about her and I would say the same applies on the opposite end of the political spectrum with someone like Lee Anderson too who is presented as a voice of the Red Wall by his side.
I suspect both politicians are rather enamoured with the media view of themselves and reality is somewhat different.
https://twitter.com/archeohistories/status/1783234604343943223
Why 36 MPs have quit or been suspended since the last election
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQ5DV6xwU4A
The Bute House Agreement seems about to break
https://twitter.com/PGourtsoyannis/status/1783382183937266072
Did he - at any point - show the slightest ability to actually listen to what was being said, think *I'll thrown this back at her* and then do so? Rayner seems to be upsetting some cancel warriors because she might become DPM.
Dowden *is* DPM. Shouldn't you be more worried about that?
All this debating society for grown ups stuff might be tremendous fun for participants, but does it really lead to better governance?
(Half-formed theory: it did in the past, while it was unconscious. Now it's more deliberate, and the winners are those who game the game best, not those who actually play it best. The same might be true in other areas.)
You understand it's legitimate to criticise someone for obnoxious use of language, right? That there's a difference between doing that and demanding someone be thrown out of public life?
Who is calling for cancellation? Name these warriors at which you're 'giggling'. I'm perhaps a bit sleepy, so I may have missed those calling for Rayner to no longer be an MP.
If there is any truth in Private Eye's allusion the whole Raynergate charade is disgusting.
Now here's something for the pint-sized snowflakes to mull over.
https://twitter.com/PrivateEyeNews/status/1783172206886826049?ref_src=twsrc^google|twcamp^serp|twgr^tweet
But even given that DPM is a non-job... Why Oliver Dowden?
If you look at the latest polling where pollsters have done Biden-Trump H2H polling at the same time as 5-way polling including Kennedy, Stein and West, it looks like the Kennedy numbers are coming slightly more from Trump than Biden. Though the picture is mixed, and I've made a few assumptions.
It's probably best just to look at the H2H polling to get a snapshot of how the race is going. Kennedy isn't going to get anything like 8-14% of the vote (probably), and Stein and West aren't going to get 2-3% each.
https://x.com/STVNews/status/1783388814410387572
I think the homes thing is a non story. I do think she has managed it badly and come over as shifty and evasive on it. That probably gave it legs. At worse I suspect she is a victim of a complex and convoluted tax regime, at best she has done nothing wrong.
Yes, and those who were most visceral about Johnson on here are the ones lapping up anything Rayner says or does. My side right or wrong is one of the worst traits you can get in politics. Neither should be acceptable.
It will be "winning here" barcharts next.
The sooner the party which had her on their front bench is gone from government, and we can forget about her, the better.
And there’s a difference between the House of Commons/ active politician and a washed-up hack with a book to sell
And the people who didn't know are clutching their pearls, until they find out it was a quote
There is some evidence that voters have a preference for taller politicians, but surely this works best as an unconscious or semi-conscious bias? Crudely pointing it out also seems bad politics
“The head of Indian IT company Tata Consultancy Services has said artificial intelligence will result in “minimal” need for call centres in as soon as a year, with AI’s rapid advances set to upend a vast industry across Asia and beyond.”
FT ££
How many people work in call centres in the UK? I imagine it is not a trivia number
Few will mourn these repetitive jobs (tho the people who get made redundant might); AI will not stop there
Why do none of our politicians talk about this? This isn’t some distant prospect, this is happening shortly - “in as soon as a year”
A challenge for Reeves and Starmer
https://x.com/paulhutcheon/status/1783394060452958710
The joke only works because DPM is such a non-job people forget that he had it.
Often you want empathy and understanding and not a chatbot.
Everyone's situation is different.
There are around 812,000 agent roles within these centres
Over 4% of the UK’s working population is employed at a call centre
https://www.cactussearch.co.uk/about-us/clients/white-papers/current-challenges-customer-contact-recruitment-2021/
The Health Secretary – who will find out on Monday if he has beaten Kate Forbes and Ash Regan to replace Nicola Sturgeon as party leader and first minister – said any move away from the Bute House agreement would “destabilise” the Scottish Government.
It comes as the Greens sent a strong signal that they may not work with Ms Forbes if she is elected as Scotland’s next leader.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/humza-yousaf-snp-greens-health-secretary-scottish-b2307955.html
There. That's politics for today sorted.
Off to London shortly as am going to Sandown for the racing on Saturday and to Ham House on Sunday for a concert and many other delights.
Sadly I will miss Van Den Bogerd's testimony at the PO Inquiry today. Vennells' hatchet-faced enforcer and a witness described by Mr Justice Fraser thus -
'in future he would accept what she said ONLY if it was ‘clearly and incontrovertibly corroborated by contemporaneous documents’.
This is the judicial equivalent of "Liar, Liar, Pants on Fire".
Interesting tidbit in the evidence of Chris Aujard yesterday: when the PO decided to wind up the mediation scheme they needed to get the Minister's approval. It's the first reference I've seen to a Minister getting involved in a PO decision and rather gives the lie to the "arms length" claim. I wonder if this will be picked up later when the relevant Minister gives evidence.
However this is also a UK issue, for Labour
1. How many call centre jobs have been re-shored to the UK? A lot, I imagine. I often hear nice British regional accents when I finally get through
2. It really really isn’t going to stop with “call centre jobs”, they are the low-hanging fruit; it will move on to nicer jobs. This is why I hear ministers waffling on about Britain’s great creative sector and how to boost it. The question should be, what bits will be left after AI has laid waste the landscape?
is anyone in the coming Labour government even thinking about this, let alone talking about it?
But it’s all fine they can retrain as plumbers and hookers
Depending on the punchee, shagee and which Jags.
Freud was quite correct, and the interview is well worth a listen on BBC Sounds.
I don't particularly like Rayner, but I like the confected campaign to get rid of her even less.
Rayner herself, though, is of considerably less importance than is Starmer keeping his distance from the press, so that government policy isn't just directed at winning the daily headlines (a besetting sin of Blair's administration).