Everyone on PB should be using Claude 3 opus. Whatever your job is, this tech is going to transform it
And it will probably take your job away in 5-10 years, possibly sooner than that
Those that benefit from it will be those that master it early, and get ahead of the curve, and use it while it is still best as an assistant, rather than doing everything itself (which it will do)
All these suckers taking degrees, taking in debt they will never pay off, hoping for a career when AI will decimate many of their prospective jobs and replace them who god knows what.
Far better to get an apprenticeship and a trade.
Indeed and absolutely right
I fear for my kids. I’m not completely delighted by this tech, half of me is terrified, but I’m not going to live in denial. It’s here and it’s real and it’s not going away
On the upside, we possibly live in the most interesting moment in human history. The creation of a superior and alien intelligence
I am reminded of this prescient article in the Spectator, 16 months ago, comparing the arrival of AI to the arrival of Europeans in Australia
“A few decades after the first contact art appeared in Arnhemland, the Aboriginal people were largely swept from their homelands by the economic forces and political changes brought by European settlers. But not everyone deserted these silent red canyons and bright lilied waterways. In the 2000s, the last native speaker of the local Amurdag language, Charlie Mungulda, returned to the Mount Borradaile rockfaces to paint a symbolic and final hand, a scarlet print which says ‘remember us, because we were here’. With this ritual, he signalled an end to 50,000 continuous years of Aboriginal art in West Arnhemland. Nothing has been painted in Mount Borrodaile since. Nor will it be.”
That’s pretty interesting. I know people mock you but your comments and articles do provoke thought. Far more than many others. I find peoples blasé attitude towards this surprising. The risks are plain to see.
Elon Musk reckons AGI by 2030.
I was mocked when I said “covid is coming” in late January 2020
Now I am saying: AGI is coming
For balance you were also mocked for promoting Putin as defender of Judaeo-Christian values and suggesting Truss might surprise on the upside.
That was the Liz truss in the necklace, that woman? The necklace I spotted within 2 minutes of watching the debate, when the rest of you were utterly clueless?
That Liz truss?
The actuality of PM Truss was quite a bit after your necklace burbling. I think it’s fair to say she pretty much surprised on the downside, even for those of us with low expectations.
Interesting and surprisingly sympathetic dissection in today's Guardian of the total failure that is Liz Truss
If that article is sympathetic I'd like to read an unsympathetic one. But interesting to learn that the Trumpites think she's a total fraud. And is she really at risk in South West Norfolk?
If she loses SW Norfolk the Tories are probably losing by 20 points plus nationally, its in the top 15 safest Tory seats even if we make allowance for her being a complete twit
If it goes that's Ed Davey installed as leader of the tattered remnants of the opposition, and possibly the end of the Conservative Party itself. Even if the defeat removes quite a lot of the blue rosette on a pig safe seats, we're not going to end up with a Canada 1993 wipeout. Even if they do deserve it.
Actually the idea that there might be a general reformation on the liberal right is the only good explanation of why the LDs have Davey as a leader.
My limited knowledge of the Lib Dems suggests that they're a party largely consisting of progressive activists, but which aims to advance itself by winning the support of well to do, ageing Home Counties nimbies from the Conservatives. Quite how such a party will go about trying to construct a coherent platform, if it becomes sufficiently relevant for this to be important for them again, is anyone's guess.
Actually the striking thing about LD support is how evenly spread it is across all demographics, unlike Labour or Conservative or Reform. A little less in Wales and Scotland and a bit more in the SE of England.
Nonetheless, the large majority of their realistic targets in England (save in the case of a total Tory implosion, in which case Labour might just sweep almost everything anyway) are in the South East. They'll be doing very well indeed to get more than three or four seats between Cambridge and the Tweed.
Yes, more snobs now vote LD than Tory and that has been the case since Brexit
What an extraordinary post!
Done on canvassing experience, go to the most expensive detached houses in the Home Counties and more likely than not the voters will be LD, certainly outside rural areas and when they are patronising with it (especially at local elections). Even if most of them still voted Tory in 2019 in the GE to keep out Corbyn now he has been replaced with Starmer many of them will vote LD without fear of Labour at general elections too
How do you know they’re ‘snobs’ though?
One for example looked at us and our rosette down his rimmed glasses, said 'I don't think so' and slammed the door.
You also only have to see some of the comments from Roger et al etc on here, the sheer contempt some diehard Remainers have for working class Leavers and the LDs have the highest percentage of diehard Remainers amongst their voters.
Nonsense, I am a lifelong Tory and I've looked down on the working classes long before Brexit.
Yet who did you vote for at the last 2 general elections? The Liberal Democrats.
I rest my case!
I am voting Tory at the next general election.
That's only because they installed Cameron as FS... 😃
Everyone on PB should be using Claude 3 opus. Whatever your job is, this tech is going to transform it
And it will probably take your job away in 5-10 years, possibly sooner than that
Those that benefit from it will be those that master it early, and get ahead of the curve, and use it while it is still best as an assistant, rather than doing everything itself (which it will do)
All these suckers taking degrees, taking in debt they will never pay off, hoping for a career when AI will decimate many of their prospective jobs and replace them who god knows what.
Far better to get an apprenticeship and a trade.
Indeed and absolutely right
I fear for my kids. I’m not completely delighted by this tech, half of me is terrified, but I’m not going to live in denial. It’s here and it’s real and it’s not going away
On the upside, we possibly live in the most interesting moment in human history. The creation of a superior and alien intelligence
I am reminded of this prescient article in the Spectator, 16 months ago, comparing the arrival of AI to the arrival of Europeans in Australia
“A few decades after the first contact art appeared in Arnhemland, the Aboriginal people were largely swept from their homelands by the economic forces and political changes brought by European settlers. But not everyone deserted these silent red canyons and bright lilied waterways. In the 2000s, the last native speaker of the local Amurdag language, Charlie Mungulda, returned to the Mount Borradaile rockfaces to paint a symbolic and final hand, a scarlet print which says ‘remember us, because we were here’. With this ritual, he signalled an end to 50,000 continuous years of Aboriginal art in West Arnhemland. Nothing has been painted in Mount Borrodaile since. Nor will it be.”
That’s pretty interesting. I know people mock you but your comments and articles do provoke thought. Far more than many others. I find peoples blasé attitude towards this surprising. The risks are plain to see.
Elon Musk reckons AGI by 2030.
I was mocked when I said “covid is coming” in late January 2020
Now I am saying: AGI is coming
For balance you were also mocked for promoting Putin as defender of Judaeo-Christian values and suggesting Truss might surprise on the upside.
That was the Liz truss in the necklace, that woman? The necklace I spotted within 2 minutes of watching the debate, when the rest of you were utterly clueless?
That Liz truss?
The actuality of PM Truss was quite a bit after your necklace burbling. I think it’s fair to say she pretty much surprised on the downside, even for those of us with low expectations.
Interesting and surprisingly sympathetic dissection in today's Guardian of the total failure that is Liz Truss
If that article is sympathetic I'd like to read an unsympathetic one. But interesting to learn that the Trumpites think she's a total fraud. And is she really at risk in South West Norfolk?
If she loses SW Norfolk the Tories are probably losing by 20 points plus nationally, its in the top 15 safest Tory seats even if we make allowance for her being a complete twit
If it goes that's Ed Davey installed as leader of the tattered remnants of the opposition, and possibly the end of the Conservative Party itself. Even if the defeat removes quite a lot of the blue rosette on a pig safe seats, we're not going to end up with a Canada 1993 wipeout. Even if they do deserve it.
Actually the idea that there might be a general reformation on the liberal right is the only good explanation of why the LDs have Davey as a leader.
My limited knowledge of the Lib Dems suggests that they're a party largely consisting of progressive activists, but which aims to advance itself by winning the support of well to do, ageing Home Counties nimbies from the Conservatives. Quite how such a party will go about trying to construct a coherent platform, if it becomes sufficiently relevant for this to be important for them again, is anyone's guess.
Actually the striking thing about LD support is how evenly spread it is across all demographics, unlike Labour or Conservative or Reform. A little less in Wales and Scotland and a bit more in the SE of England.
Nonetheless, the large majority of their realistic targets in England (save in the case of a total Tory implosion, in which case Labour might just sweep almost everything anyway) are in the South East. They'll be doing very well indeed to get more than three or four seats between Cambridge and the Tweed.
Yes, more snobs now vote LD than Tory and that has been the case since Brexit
What an extraordinary post!
Done on canvassing experience, go to the most expensive detached houses in the Home Counties and more likely than not the voters will be LD, certainly outside rural areas and when they are patronising with it (especially at local elections). Even if most of them still voted Tory in 2019 in the GE to keep out Corbyn now he has been replaced with Starmer many of them will vote LD without fear of Labour at general elections too
How do you know they’re ‘snobs’ though?
One for example looked at us and our rosette down his rimmed glasses, said 'I don't think so' and slammed the door.
You also only have to see some of the comments from Roger et al etc on here, the sheer contempt some diehard Remainers have for working class Leavers and the LDs have the highest percentage of diehard Remainers amongst their voters
6% of Leavers now support the LDs in that bar chart. Less than the percentage of Remain, but it does mean that a little over a third of LD support comes from 2016 Leave voters.
Which given 52% of the UK voted Leave is a massively lower percentage than the percentage of Conservative or even Labour voters who voted Leave.
Indeed currently 12/15 LD seats are in Remain voting constituencies and the only Leave seats they have they won at by elections
I don't think you are reading the bar chart correctly.
Overall the LDs have 10% support, made up of 6% support from Leavers and 13% of remainers.
It isn't 6% of LD voters voted Leave.
Indeed Con should worry that only 28% of Leavers are supporting Con. That isn't much of a base.
Indeed in those bar charts Con are behind Lab in every one apart from 2019 Con voters and 2016 Leave voters.
As the Tories have lost Leavers their vote has become a bit posher under Rishi and Cameron and Hunt than it was under Boris and Javid and Raab and Patel (adding a few upper middle class Remainers like TSE on the way).
Overall as you say the Tory base is much lower but the Tory base will be a bit posher than it was in 2019 with Boris, albeit still not as posh as the LD base
Everyone on PB should be using Claude 3 opus. Whatever your job is, this tech is going to transform it
And it will probably take your job away in 5-10 years, possibly sooner than that
Those that benefit from it will be those that master it early, and get ahead of the curve, and use it while it is still best as an assistant, rather than doing everything itself (which it will do)
All these suckers taking degrees, taking in debt they will never pay off, hoping for a career when AI will decimate many of their prospective jobs and replace them who god knows what.
Far better to get an apprenticeship and a trade.
Indeed and absolutely right
I fear for my kids. I’m not completely delighted by this tech, half of me is terrified, but I’m not going to live in denial. It’s here and it’s real and it’s not going away
On the upside, we possibly live in the most interesting moment in human history. The creation of a superior and alien intelligence
I am reminded of this prescient article in the Spectator, 16 months ago, comparing the arrival of AI to the arrival of Europeans in Australia
“A few decades after the first contact art appeared in Arnhemland, the Aboriginal people were largely swept from their homelands by the economic forces and political changes brought by European settlers. But not everyone deserted these silent red canyons and bright lilied waterways. In the 2000s, the last native speaker of the local Amurdag language, Charlie Mungulda, returned to the Mount Borradaile rockfaces to paint a symbolic and final hand, a scarlet print which says ‘remember us, because we were here’. With this ritual, he signalled an end to 50,000 continuous years of Aboriginal art in West Arnhemland. Nothing has been painted in Mount Borrodaile since. Nor will it be.”
That’s pretty interesting. I know people mock you but your comments and articles do provoke thought. Far more than many others. I find peoples blasé attitude towards this surprising. The risks are plain to see.
Elon Musk reckons AGI by 2030.
I was mocked when I said “covid is coming” in late January 2020
Now I am saying: AGI is coming
For balance you were also mocked for promoting Putin as defender of Judaeo-Christian values and suggesting Truss might surprise on the upside.
That was the Liz truss in the necklace, that woman? The necklace I spotted within 2 minutes of watching the debate, when the rest of you were utterly clueless?
That Liz truss?
The actuality of PM Truss was quite a bit after your necklace burbling. I think it’s fair to say she pretty much surprised on the downside, even for those of us with low expectations.
Interesting and surprisingly sympathetic dissection in today's Guardian of the total failure that is Liz Truss
If that article is sympathetic I'd like to read an unsympathetic one. But interesting to learn that the Trumpites think she's a total fraud. And is she really at risk in South West Norfolk?
If she loses SW Norfolk the Tories are probably losing by 20 points plus nationally, its in the top 15 safest Tory seats even if we make allowance for her being a complete twit
If it goes that's Ed Davey installed as leader of the tattered remnants of the opposition, and possibly the end of the Conservative Party itself. Even if the defeat removes quite a lot of the blue rosette on a pig safe seats, we're not going to end up with a Canada 1993 wipeout. Even if they do deserve it.
Actually the idea that there might be a general reformation on the liberal right is the only good explanation of why the LDs have Davey as a leader.
My limited knowledge of the Lib Dems suggests that they're a party largely consisting of progressive activists, but which aims to advance itself by winning the support of well to do, ageing Home Counties nimbies from the Conservatives. Quite how such a party will go about trying to construct a coherent platform, if it becomes sufficiently relevant for this to be important for them again, is anyone's guess.
Actually the striking thing about LD support is how evenly spread it is across all demographics, unlike Labour or Conservative or Reform. A little less in Wales and Scotland and a bit more in the SE of England.
Nonetheless, the large majority of their realistic targets in England (save in the case of a total Tory implosion, in which case Labour might just sweep almost everything anyway) are in the South East. They'll be doing very well indeed to get more than three or four seats between Cambridge and the Tweed.
Yes, more snobs now vote LD than Tory and that has been the case since Brexit
What an extraordinary post!
Done on canvassing experience, go to the most expensive detached houses in the Home Counties and more likely than not the voters will be LD, certainly outside rural areas and when they are patronising with it (especially at local elections). Even if most of them still voted Tory in 2019 in the GE to keep out Corbyn now he has been replaced with Starmer many of them will vote LD without fear of Labour at general elections too
How do you know they’re ‘snobs’ though?
One for example looked at us and our rosette down his rimmed glasses, said 'I don't think so' and slammed the door.
You also only have to see some of the comments from Roger et al etc on here, the sheer contempt some diehard Remainers have for working class Leavers and the LDs have the highest percentage of diehard Remainers amongst their voters.
Nonsense, I am a lifelong Tory and I've looked down on the working classes long before Brexit.
Yet who did you vote for at the last 2 general elections? The Liberal Democrats.
I rest my case!
I am voting Tory at the next general election.
The Lib Dems thank you for your lack of support, on the grounds that you are clearly a Jonah....
I have voted in Sheffield Hallam in four general elections (1997, 2015, 2017, and 2019) and I have never voted for the winning candidate, you may have a point.
In 2001, 2005, and 2010 I have voted for the winning candidate in other constituencies.
Everyone on PB should be using Claude 3 opus. Whatever your job is, this tech is going to transform it
And it will probably take your job away in 5-10 years, possibly sooner than that
Those that benefit from it will be those that master it early, and get ahead of the curve, and use it while it is still best as an assistant, rather than doing everything itself (which it will do)
All these suckers taking degrees, taking in debt they will never pay off, hoping for a career when AI will decimate many of their prospective jobs and replace them who god knows what.
Far better to get an apprenticeship and a trade.
Indeed and absolutely right
I fear for my kids. I’m not completely delighted by this tech, half of me is terrified, but I’m not going to live in denial. It’s here and it’s real and it’s not going away
On the upside, we possibly live in the most interesting moment in human history. The creation of a superior and alien intelligence
I am reminded of this prescient article in the Spectator, 16 months ago, comparing the arrival of AI to the arrival of Europeans in Australia
“A few decades after the first contact art appeared in Arnhemland, the Aboriginal people were largely swept from their homelands by the economic forces and political changes brought by European settlers. But not everyone deserted these silent red canyons and bright lilied waterways. In the 2000s, the last native speaker of the local Amurdag language, Charlie Mungulda, returned to the Mount Borradaile rockfaces to paint a symbolic and final hand, a scarlet print which says ‘remember us, because we were here’. With this ritual, he signalled an end to 50,000 continuous years of Aboriginal art in West Arnhemland. Nothing has been painted in Mount Borrodaile since. Nor will it be.”
That’s pretty interesting. I know people mock you but your comments and articles do provoke thought. Far more than many others. I find peoples blasé attitude towards this surprising. The risks are plain to see.
Elon Musk reckons AGI by 2030.
I was mocked when I said “covid is coming” in late January 2020
Now I am saying: AGI is coming
For balance you were also mocked for promoting Putin as defender of Judaeo-Christian values and suggesting Truss might surprise on the upside.
That was the Liz truss in the necklace, that woman? The necklace I spotted within 2 minutes of watching the debate, when the rest of you were utterly clueless?
That Liz truss?
The actuality of PM Truss was quite a bit after your necklace burbling. I think it’s fair to say she pretty much surprised on the downside, even for those of us with low expectations.
Interesting and surprisingly sympathetic dissection in today's Guardian of the total failure that is Liz Truss
If that article is sympathetic I'd like to read an unsympathetic one. But interesting to learn that the Trumpites think she's a total fraud. And is she really at risk in South West Norfolk?
If she loses SW Norfolk the Tories are probably losing by 20 points plus nationally, its in the top 15 safest Tory seats even if we make allowance for her being a complete twit
If it goes that's Ed Davey installed as leader of the tattered remnants of the opposition, and possibly the end of the Conservative Party itself. Even if the defeat removes quite a lot of the blue rosette on a pig safe seats, we're not going to end up with a Canada 1993 wipeout. Even if they do deserve it.
Actually the idea that there might be a general reformation on the liberal right is the only good explanation of why the LDs have Davey as a leader.
My limited knowledge of the Lib Dems suggests that they're a party largely consisting of progressive activists, but which aims to advance itself by winning the support of well to do, ageing Home Counties nimbies from the Conservatives. Quite how such a party will go about trying to construct a coherent platform, if it becomes sufficiently relevant for this to be important for them again, is anyone's guess.
Actually the striking thing about LD support is how evenly spread it is across all demographics, unlike Labour or Conservative or Reform. A little less in Wales and Scotland and a bit more in the SE of England.
Nonetheless, the large majority of their realistic targets in England (save in the case of a total Tory implosion, in which case Labour might just sweep almost everything anyway) are in the South East. They'll be doing very well indeed to get more than three or four seats between Cambridge and the Tweed.
Yes, more snobs now vote LD than Tory and that has been the case since Brexit
What an extraordinary post!
Done on canvassing experience, go to the most expensive detached houses in the Home Counties and more likely than not the voters will be LD, certainly outside rural areas and when they are patronising with it (especially at local elections). Even if most of them still voted Tory in 2019 in the GE to keep out Corbyn now he has been replaced with Starmer many of them will vote LD without fear of Labour at general elections too
How do you know they’re ‘snobs’ though?
One for example looked at us and our rosette down his rimmed glasses, said 'I don't think so' and slammed the door.
You also only have to see some of the comments from Roger et al etc on here, the sheer contempt some diehard Remainers have for working class Leavers and the LDs have the highest percentage of diehard Remainers amongst their voters.
Nonsense, I am a lifelong Tory and I've looked down on the working classes long before Brexit.
Yet who did you vote for at the last 2 general elections? The Liberal Democrats.
I rest my case!
I am voting Tory at the next general election.
Sunak has one convert!
Appointing David Cameron as Foreign Secretary was what clinched my vote.
David Cameron is the only minister in this sorry government making any serious effort at all.
Everyone on PB should be using Claude 3 opus. Whatever your job is, this tech is going to transform it
And it will probably take your job away in 5-10 years, possibly sooner than that
Those that benefit from it will be those that master it early, and get ahead of the curve, and use it while it is still best as an assistant, rather than doing everything itself (which it will do)
All these suckers taking degrees, taking in debt they will never pay off, hoping for a career when AI will decimate many of their prospective jobs and replace them who god knows what.
Far better to get an apprenticeship and a trade.
Indeed and absolutely right
I fear for my kids. I’m not completely delighted by this tech, half of me is terrified, but I’m not going to live in denial. It’s here and it’s real and it’s not going away
On the upside, we possibly live in the most interesting moment in human history. The creation of a superior and alien intelligence
I am reminded of this prescient article in the Spectator, 16 months ago, comparing the arrival of AI to the arrival of Europeans in Australia
“A few decades after the first contact art appeared in Arnhemland, the Aboriginal people were largely swept from their homelands by the economic forces and political changes brought by European settlers. But not everyone deserted these silent red canyons and bright lilied waterways. In the 2000s, the last native speaker of the local Amurdag language, Charlie Mungulda, returned to the Mount Borradaile rockfaces to paint a symbolic and final hand, a scarlet print which says ‘remember us, because we were here’. With this ritual, he signalled an end to 50,000 continuous years of Aboriginal art in West Arnhemland. Nothing has been painted in Mount Borrodaile since. Nor will it be.”
That’s pretty interesting. I know people mock you but your comments and articles do provoke thought. Far more than many others. I find peoples blasé attitude towards this surprising. The risks are plain to see.
Elon Musk reckons AGI by 2030.
I was mocked when I said “covid is coming” in late January 2020
Now I am saying: AGI is coming
For balance you were also mocked for promoting Putin as defender of Judaeo-Christian values and suggesting Truss might surprise on the upside.
That was the Liz truss in the necklace, that woman? The necklace I spotted within 2 minutes of watching the debate, when the rest of you were utterly clueless?
That Liz truss?
The actuality of PM Truss was quite a bit after your necklace burbling. I think it’s fair to say she pretty much surprised on the downside, even for those of us with low expectations.
Interesting and surprisingly sympathetic dissection in today's Guardian of the total failure that is Liz Truss
If that article is sympathetic I'd like to read an unsympathetic one. But interesting to learn that the Trumpites think she's a total fraud. And is she really at risk in South West Norfolk?
If she loses SW Norfolk the Tories are probably losing by 20 points plus nationally, its in the top 15 safest Tory seats even if we make allowance for her being a complete twit
If it goes that's Ed Davey installed as leader of the tattered remnants of the opposition, and possibly the end of the Conservative Party itself. Even if the defeat removes quite a lot of the blue rosette on a pig safe seats, we're not going to end up with a Canada 1993 wipeout. Even if they do deserve it.
Actually the idea that there might be a general reformation on the liberal right is the only good explanation of why the LDs have Davey as a leader.
My limited knowledge of the Lib Dems suggests that they're a party largely consisting of progressive activists, but which aims to advance itself by winning the support of well to do, ageing Home Counties nimbies from the Conservatives. Quite how such a party will go about trying to construct a coherent platform, if it becomes sufficiently relevant for this to be important for them again, is anyone's guess.
Actually the striking thing about LD support is how evenly spread it is across all demographics, unlike Labour or Conservative or Reform. A little less in Wales and Scotland and a bit more in the SE of England.
Not on class though, look at those numbers. The LDs on 10% with ABC1s but just 7% with C2DEs and 12% with degrees and just 8% with no degrees.
I would say that isn't a major gap by class or education, just your blinkered prejudice.
Perhaps if you canvassed in Lib Dem run Oadby and Wigston you might have a more balanced view than you do from the Home Counties.
It is, the LDs now have a higher percentage of middle class voters than Labour, the Conservatives and Reform. Even Oadby and Wigston is more rural and market town Leicestershire, it is hardly Stoke, Knowsley or Burnley is it!
Obviously you have never been there. It is suburban Leicester.
It isn't really, Oadby and Wigston are market towns not part of Leicester itself
Everyone on PB should be using Claude 3 opus. Whatever your job is, this tech is going to transform it
And it will probably take your job away in 5-10 years, possibly sooner than that
Those that benefit from it will be those that master it early, and get ahead of the curve, and use it while it is still best as an assistant, rather than doing everything itself (which it will do)
All these suckers taking degrees, taking in debt they will never pay off, hoping for a career when AI will decimate many of their prospective jobs and replace them who god knows what.
Far better to get an apprenticeship and a trade.
Indeed and absolutely right
I fear for my kids. I’m not completely delighted by this tech, half of me is terrified, but I’m not going to live in denial. It’s here and it’s real and it’s not going away
On the upside, we possibly live in the most interesting moment in human history. The creation of a superior and alien intelligence
I am reminded of this prescient article in the Spectator, 16 months ago, comparing the arrival of AI to the arrival of Europeans in Australia
“A few decades after the first contact art appeared in Arnhemland, the Aboriginal people were largely swept from their homelands by the economic forces and political changes brought by European settlers. But not everyone deserted these silent red canyons and bright lilied waterways. In the 2000s, the last native speaker of the local Amurdag language, Charlie Mungulda, returned to the Mount Borradaile rockfaces to paint a symbolic and final hand, a scarlet print which says ‘remember us, because we were here’. With this ritual, he signalled an end to 50,000 continuous years of Aboriginal art in West Arnhemland. Nothing has been painted in Mount Borrodaile since. Nor will it be.”
That’s pretty interesting. I know people mock you but your comments and articles do provoke thought. Far more than many others. I find peoples blasé attitude towards this surprising. The risks are plain to see.
Elon Musk reckons AGI by 2030.
I was mocked when I said “covid is coming” in late January 2020
Now I am saying: AGI is coming
For balance you were also mocked for promoting Putin as defender of Judaeo-Christian values and suggesting Truss might surprise on the upside.
That was the Liz truss in the necklace, that woman? The necklace I spotted within 2 minutes of watching the debate, when the rest of you were utterly clueless?
That Liz truss?
The actuality of PM Truss was quite a bit after your necklace burbling. I think it’s fair to say she pretty much surprised on the downside, even for those of us with low expectations.
Interesting and surprisingly sympathetic dissection in today's Guardian of the total failure that is Liz Truss
If that article is sympathetic I'd like to read an unsympathetic one. But interesting to learn that the Trumpites think she's a total fraud. And is she really at risk in South West Norfolk?
If she loses SW Norfolk the Tories are probably losing by 20 points plus nationally, its in the top 15 safest Tory seats even if we make allowance for her being a complete twit
If it goes that's Ed Davey installed as leader of the tattered remnants of the opposition, and possibly the end of the Conservative Party itself. Even if the defeat removes quite a lot of the blue rosette on a pig safe seats, we're not going to end up with a Canada 1993 wipeout. Even if they do deserve it.
Actually the idea that there might be a general reformation on the liberal right is the only good explanation of why the LDs have Davey as a leader.
My limited knowledge of the Lib Dems suggests that they're a party largely consisting of progressive activists, but which aims to advance itself by winning the support of well to do, ageing Home Counties nimbies from the Conservatives. Quite how such a party will go about trying to construct a coherent platform, if it becomes sufficiently relevant for this to be important for them again, is anyone's guess.
Actually the striking thing about LD support is how evenly spread it is across all demographics, unlike Labour or Conservative or Reform. A little less in Wales and Scotland and a bit more in the SE of England.
Not on class though, look at those numbers. The LDs on 10% with ABC1s but just 7% with C2DEs and 12% with degrees and just 8% with no degrees.
I would say that isn't a major gap by class or education, just your blinkered prejudice.
Perhaps if you canvassed in Lib Dem run Oadby and Wigston you might have a more balanced view than you do from the Home Counties.
It is, the LDs now have a higher percentage of middle class voters than Labour, the Conservatives and Reform. Even Oadby and Wigston is more rural and market town Leicestershire, it is hardly Stoke, Knowsley or Burnley is it!
Obviously you have never been there. It is suburban Leicester.
It isn't really, Oadby and Wigston are market towns not part of Leicester itself
I knew people there. They are very definitely suburbs of Leicester.
Everyone on PB should be using Claude 3 opus. Whatever your job is, this tech is going to transform it
And it will probably take your job away in 5-10 years, possibly sooner than that
Those that benefit from it will be those that master it early, and get ahead of the curve, and use it while it is still best as an assistant, rather than doing everything itself (which it will do)
All these suckers taking degrees, taking in debt they will never pay off, hoping for a career when AI will decimate many of their prospective jobs and replace them who god knows what.
Far better to get an apprenticeship and a trade.
Indeed and absolutely right
I fear for my kids. I’m not completely delighted by this tech, half of me is terrified, but I’m not going to live in denial. It’s here and it’s real and it’s not going away
On the upside, we possibly live in the most interesting moment in human history. The creation of a superior and alien intelligence
I am reminded of this prescient article in the Spectator, 16 months ago, comparing the arrival of AI to the arrival of Europeans in Australia
“A few decades after the first contact art appeared in Arnhemland, the Aboriginal people were largely swept from their homelands by the economic forces and political changes brought by European settlers. But not everyone deserted these silent red canyons and bright lilied waterways. In the 2000s, the last native speaker of the local Amurdag language, Charlie Mungulda, returned to the Mount Borradaile rockfaces to paint a symbolic and final hand, a scarlet print which says ‘remember us, because we were here’. With this ritual, he signalled an end to 50,000 continuous years of Aboriginal art in West Arnhemland. Nothing has been painted in Mount Borrodaile since. Nor will it be.”
That’s pretty interesting. I know people mock you but your comments and articles do provoke thought. Far more than many others. I find peoples blasé attitude towards this surprising. The risks are plain to see.
Elon Musk reckons AGI by 2030.
I was mocked when I said “covid is coming” in late January 2020
Now I am saying: AGI is coming
For balance you were also mocked for promoting Putin as defender of Judaeo-Christian values and suggesting Truss might surprise on the upside.
That was the Liz truss in the necklace, that woman? The necklace I spotted within 2 minutes of watching the debate, when the rest of you were utterly clueless?
That Liz truss?
The actuality of PM Truss was quite a bit after your necklace burbling. I think it’s fair to say she pretty much surprised on the downside, even for those of us with low expectations.
Interesting and surprisingly sympathetic dissection in today's Guardian of the total failure that is Liz Truss
If that article is sympathetic I'd like to read an unsympathetic one. But interesting to learn that the Trumpites think she's a total fraud. And is she really at risk in South West Norfolk?
If she loses SW Norfolk the Tories are probably losing by 20 points plus nationally, its in the top 15 safest Tory seats even if we make allowance for her being a complete twit
If it goes that's Ed Davey installed as leader of the tattered remnants of the opposition, and possibly the end of the Conservative Party itself. Even if the defeat removes quite a lot of the blue rosette on a pig safe seats, we're not going to end up with a Canada 1993 wipeout. Even if they do deserve it.
Actually the idea that there might be a general reformation on the liberal right is the only good explanation of why the LDs have Davey as a leader.
My limited knowledge of the Lib Dems suggests that they're a party largely consisting of progressive activists, but which aims to advance itself by winning the support of well to do, ageing Home Counties nimbies from the Conservatives. Quite how such a party will go about trying to construct a coherent platform, if it becomes sufficiently relevant for this to be important for them again, is anyone's guess.
Actually the striking thing about LD support is how evenly spread it is across all demographics, unlike Labour or Conservative or Reform. A little less in Wales and Scotland and a bit more in the SE of England.
Nonetheless, the large majority of their realistic targets in England (save in the case of a total Tory implosion, in which case Labour might just sweep almost everything anyway) are in the South East. They'll be doing very well indeed to get more than three or four seats between Cambridge and the Tweed.
Yes, more snobs now vote LD than Tory and that has been the case since Brexit
What an extraordinary post!
Done on canvassing experience, go to the most expensive detached houses in the Home Counties and more likely than not the voters will be LD, certainly outside rural areas and when they are patronising with it (especially at local elections). Even if most of them still voted Tory in 2019 in the GE to keep out Corbyn now he has been replaced with Starmer many of them will vote LD without fear of Labour at general elections too
How do you know they’re ‘snobs’ though?
One for example looked at us and our rosette down his rimmed glasses, said 'I don't think so' and slammed the door.
You also only have to see some of the comments from Roger et al etc on here, the sheer contempt some diehard Remainers have for working class Leavers and the LDs have the highest percentage of diehard Remainers amongst their voters.
Nonsense, I am a lifelong Tory and I've looked down on the working classes long before Brexit.
Yet who did you vote for at the last 2 general elections? The Liberal Democrats.
I rest my case!
I am voting Tory at the next general election.
Sunak has one convert!
Appointing David Cameron as Foreign Secretary was what clinched my vote.
There are rumours that he wants to persuade George Osborne to come back as Chancellor.
Everyone on PB should be using Claude 3 opus. Whatever your job is, this tech is going to transform it
And it will probably take your job away in 5-10 years, possibly sooner than that
Those that benefit from it will be those that master it early, and get ahead of the curve, and use it while it is still best as an assistant, rather than doing everything itself (which it will do)
All these suckers taking degrees, taking in debt they will never pay off, hoping for a career when AI will decimate many of their prospective jobs and replace them who god knows what.
Far better to get an apprenticeship and a trade.
Indeed and absolutely right
I fear for my kids. I’m not completely delighted by this tech, half of me is terrified, but I’m not going to live in denial. It’s here and it’s real and it’s not going away
On the upside, we possibly live in the most interesting moment in human history. The creation of a superior and alien intelligence
I am reminded of this prescient article in the Spectator, 16 months ago, comparing the arrival of AI to the arrival of Europeans in Australia
“A few decades after the first contact art appeared in Arnhemland, the Aboriginal people were largely swept from their homelands by the economic forces and political changes brought by European settlers. But not everyone deserted these silent red canyons and bright lilied waterways. In the 2000s, the last native speaker of the local Amurdag language, Charlie Mungulda, returned to the Mount Borradaile rockfaces to paint a symbolic and final hand, a scarlet print which says ‘remember us, because we were here’. With this ritual, he signalled an end to 50,000 continuous years of Aboriginal art in West Arnhemland. Nothing has been painted in Mount Borrodaile since. Nor will it be.”
That’s pretty interesting. I know people mock you but your comments and articles do provoke thought. Far more than many others. I find peoples blasé attitude towards this surprising. The risks are plain to see.
Elon Musk reckons AGI by 2030.
I was mocked when I said “covid is coming” in late January 2020
Now I am saying: AGI is coming
For balance you were also mocked for promoting Putin as defender of Judaeo-Christian values and suggesting Truss might surprise on the upside.
That was the Liz truss in the necklace, that woman? The necklace I spotted within 2 minutes of watching the debate, when the rest of you were utterly clueless?
That Liz truss?
The actuality of PM Truss was quite a bit after your necklace burbling. I think it’s fair to say she pretty much surprised on the downside, even for those of us with low expectations.
Interesting and surprisingly sympathetic dissection in today's Guardian of the total failure that is Liz Truss
If that article is sympathetic I'd like to read an unsympathetic one. But interesting to learn that the Trumpites think she's a total fraud. And is she really at risk in South West Norfolk?
If she loses SW Norfolk the Tories are probably losing by 20 points plus nationally, its in the top 15 safest Tory seats even if we make allowance for her being a complete twit
If it goes that's Ed Davey installed as leader of the tattered remnants of the opposition, and possibly the end of the Conservative Party itself. Even if the defeat removes quite a lot of the blue rosette on a pig safe seats, we're not going to end up with a Canada 1993 wipeout. Even if they do deserve it.
Actually the idea that there might be a general reformation on the liberal right is the only good explanation of why the LDs have Davey as a leader.
My limited knowledge of the Lib Dems suggests that they're a party largely consisting of progressive activists, but which aims to advance itself by winning the support of well to do, ageing Home Counties nimbies from the Conservatives. Quite how such a party will go about trying to construct a coherent platform, if it becomes sufficiently relevant for this to be important for them again, is anyone's guess.
Actually the striking thing about LD support is how evenly spread it is across all demographics, unlike Labour or Conservative or Reform. A little less in Wales and Scotland and a bit more in the SE of England.
Nonetheless, the large majority of their realistic targets in England (save in the case of a total Tory implosion, in which case Labour might just sweep almost everything anyway) are in the South East. They'll be doing very well indeed to get more than three or four seats between Cambridge and the Tweed.
Yes, more snobs now vote LD than Tory and that has been the case since Brexit
What an extraordinary post!
Done on canvassing experience, go to the most expensive detached houses in the Home Counties and more likely than not the voters will be LD, certainly outside rural areas and when they are patronising with it (especially at local elections). Even if most of them still voted Tory in 2019 in the GE to keep out Corbyn now he has been replaced with Starmer many of them will vote LD without fear of Labour at general elections too
How do you know they’re ‘snobs’ though?
One for example looked at us and our rosette down his rimmed glasses, said 'I don't think so' and slammed the door.
You also only have to see some of the comments from Roger et al etc on here, the sheer contempt some diehard Remainers have for working class Leavers and the LDs have the highest percentage of diehard Remainers amongst their voters.
Nonsense, I am a lifelong Tory and I've looked down on the working classes long before Brexit.
Yet who did you vote for at the last 2 general elections? The Liberal Democrats.
I rest my case!
I am voting Tory at the next general election.
OK but Rishi will be the first Tory leader you have voted for since Cameron, the fact you have decided to vote Tory again under Sunak just as working class Leavers in the redwall have deserted the Tories for Labour or Reform still doesn't change the point much
While I think TSE has made a strange decision, doesn’t the fact that normally rational and sensible chap like him wouldn’t vote for a party led by May or Johnson say something about the state of the Conservative Party?
Mind, I’ve only voted Conservative once, in 65 years on the electoral register, and that was in a County Council election when my father was the candidate. He lost, which was a bit of a relief, really.
Everyone on PB should be using Claude 3 opus. Whatever your job is, this tech is going to transform it
And it will probably take your job away in 5-10 years, possibly sooner than that
Those that benefit from it will be those that master it early, and get ahead of the curve, and use it while it is still best as an assistant, rather than doing everything itself (which it will do)
All these suckers taking degrees, taking in debt they will never pay off, hoping for a career when AI will decimate many of their prospective jobs and replace them who god knows what.
Far better to get an apprenticeship and a trade.
Indeed and absolutely right
I fear for my kids. I’m not completely delighted by this tech, half of me is terrified, but I’m not going to live in denial. It’s here and it’s real and it’s not going away
On the upside, we possibly live in the most interesting moment in human history. The creation of a superior and alien intelligence
I am reminded of this prescient article in the Spectator, 16 months ago, comparing the arrival of AI to the arrival of Europeans in Australia
“A few decades after the first contact art appeared in Arnhemland, the Aboriginal people were largely swept from their homelands by the economic forces and political changes brought by European settlers. But not everyone deserted these silent red canyons and bright lilied waterways. In the 2000s, the last native speaker of the local Amurdag language, Charlie Mungulda, returned to the Mount Borradaile rockfaces to paint a symbolic and final hand, a scarlet print which says ‘remember us, because we were here’. With this ritual, he signalled an end to 50,000 continuous years of Aboriginal art in West Arnhemland. Nothing has been painted in Mount Borrodaile since. Nor will it be.”
That’s pretty interesting. I know people mock you but your comments and articles do provoke thought. Far more than many others. I find peoples blasé attitude towards this surprising. The risks are plain to see.
Elon Musk reckons AGI by 2030.
I was mocked when I said “covid is coming” in late January 2020
Now I am saying: AGI is coming
For balance you were also mocked for promoting Putin as defender of Judaeo-Christian values and suggesting Truss might surprise on the upside.
That was the Liz truss in the necklace, that woman? The necklace I spotted within 2 minutes of watching the debate, when the rest of you were utterly clueless?
That Liz truss?
The actuality of PM Truss was quite a bit after your necklace burbling. I think it’s fair to say she pretty much surprised on the downside, even for those of us with low expectations.
Interesting and surprisingly sympathetic dissection in today's Guardian of the total failure that is Liz Truss
If that article is sympathetic I'd like to read an unsympathetic one. But interesting to learn that the Trumpites think she's a total fraud. And is she really at risk in South West Norfolk?
If she loses SW Norfolk the Tories are probably losing by 20 points plus nationally, its in the top 15 safest Tory seats even if we make allowance for her being a complete twit
If it goes that's Ed Davey installed as leader of the tattered remnants of the opposition, and possibly the end of the Conservative Party itself. Even if the defeat removes quite a lot of the blue rosette on a pig safe seats, we're not going to end up with a Canada 1993 wipeout. Even if they do deserve it.
Actually the idea that there might be a general reformation on the liberal right is the only good explanation of why the LDs have Davey as a leader.
My limited knowledge of the Lib Dems suggests that they're a party largely consisting of progressive activists, but which aims to advance itself by winning the support of well to do, ageing Home Counties nimbies from the Conservatives. Quite how such a party will go about trying to construct a coherent platform, if it becomes sufficiently relevant for this to be important for them again, is anyone's guess.
Actually the striking thing about LD support is how evenly spread it is across all demographics, unlike Labour or Conservative or Reform. A little less in Wales and Scotland and a bit more in the SE of England.
Nonetheless, the large majority of their realistic targets in England (save in the case of a total Tory implosion, in which case Labour might just sweep almost everything anyway) are in the South East. They'll be doing very well indeed to get more than three or four seats between Cambridge and the Tweed.
Yes, more snobs now vote LD than Tory and that has been the case since Brexit
What an extraordinary post!
Done on canvassing experience, go to the most expensive detached houses in the Home Counties and more likely than not the voters will be LD, certainly outside rural areas and when they are patronising with it (especially at local elections). Even if most of them still voted Tory in 2019 in the GE to keep out Corbyn now he has been replaced with Starmer many of them will vote LD without fear of Labour at general elections too
How do you know they’re ‘snobs’ though?
One for example looked at us and our rosette down his rimmed glasses, said 'I don't think so' and slammed the door.
You also only have to see some of the comments from Roger et al etc on here, the sheer contempt some diehard Remainers have for working class Leavers and the LDs have the highest percentage of diehard Remainers amongst their voters.
Nonsense, I am a lifelong Tory and I've looked down on the working classes long before Brexit.
Yet who did you vote for at the last 2 general elections? The Liberal Democrats.
I rest my case!
I am voting Tory at the next general election.
Sunak has one convert!
Appointing David Cameron as Foreign Secretary was what clinched my vote.
David Cameron is the only minister in this sorry government making any serious effort at all.
What's he done that is serious. Passed me by.
Michael Gove can be decent, but I don't think Sunak is letting him be.
Hunt has done some very good work, especially on National Insurance, credit where it's due.
But the rest of the sorry bunch need to go to the Opposition benches, or out of Parliament altogether.
Interesting to note Robert Jenrick's proposal to record nationality whenever a criminal is convicted, because "We would want to apply a higher level of scrutiny to nationalities that are higher risk".
That is direct discrimination on the basis of race according to the Equality Act, because the Act explicitly says that "race" includes "nationality".
Except you could equally claim that such recording is required under legislation to ensure that protected groups are… protected.
Everyone on PB should be using Claude 3 opus. Whatever your job is, this tech is going to transform it
And it will probably take your job away in 5-10 years, possibly sooner than that
Those that benefit from it will be those that master it early, and get ahead of the curve, and use it while it is still best as an assistant, rather than doing everything itself (which it will do)
All these suckers taking degrees, taking in debt they will never pay off, hoping for a career when AI will decimate many of their prospective jobs and replace them who god knows what.
Far better to get an apprenticeship and a trade.
Indeed and absolutely right
I fear for my kids. I’m not completely delighted by this tech, half of me is terrified, but I’m not going to live in denial. It’s here and it’s real and it’s not going away
On the upside, we possibly live in the most interesting moment in human history. The creation of a superior and alien intelligence
I am reminded of this prescient article in the Spectator, 16 months ago, comparing the arrival of AI to the arrival of Europeans in Australia
“A few decades after the first contact art appeared in Arnhemland, the Aboriginal people were largely swept from their homelands by the economic forces and political changes brought by European settlers. But not everyone deserted these silent red canyons and bright lilied waterways. In the 2000s, the last native speaker of the local Amurdag language, Charlie Mungulda, returned to the Mount Borradaile rockfaces to paint a symbolic and final hand, a scarlet print which says ‘remember us, because we were here’. With this ritual, he signalled an end to 50,000 continuous years of Aboriginal art in West Arnhemland. Nothing has been painted in Mount Borrodaile since. Nor will it be.”
That’s pretty interesting. I know people mock you but your comments and articles do provoke thought. Far more than many others. I find peoples blasé attitude towards this surprising. The risks are plain to see.
Elon Musk reckons AGI by 2030.
I was mocked when I said “covid is coming” in late January 2020
Now I am saying: AGI is coming
For balance you were also mocked for promoting Putin as defender of Judaeo-Christian values and suggesting Truss might surprise on the upside.
That was the Liz truss in the necklace, that woman? The necklace I spotted within 2 minutes of watching the debate, when the rest of you were utterly clueless?
That Liz truss?
The actuality of PM Truss was quite a bit after your necklace burbling. I think it’s fair to say she pretty much surprised on the downside, even for those of us with low expectations.
Interesting and surprisingly sympathetic dissection in today's Guardian of the total failure that is Liz Truss
If that article is sympathetic I'd like to read an unsympathetic one. But interesting to learn that the Trumpites think she's a total fraud. And is she really at risk in South West Norfolk?
If she loses SW Norfolk the Tories are probably losing by 20 points plus nationally, its in the top 15 safest Tory seats even if we make allowance for her being a complete twit
If it goes that's Ed Davey installed as leader of the tattered remnants of the opposition, and possibly the end of the Conservative Party itself. Even if the defeat removes quite a lot of the blue rosette on a pig safe seats, we're not going to end up with a Canada 1993 wipeout. Even if they do deserve it.
Actually the idea that there might be a general reformation on the liberal right is the only good explanation of why the LDs have Davey as a leader.
My limited knowledge of the Lib Dems suggests that they're a party largely consisting of progressive activists, but which aims to advance itself by winning the support of well to do, ageing Home Counties nimbies from the Conservatives. Quite how such a party will go about trying to construct a coherent platform, if it becomes sufficiently relevant for this to be important for them again, is anyone's guess.
Actually the striking thing about LD support is how evenly spread it is across all demographics, unlike Labour or Conservative or Reform. A little less in Wales and Scotland and a bit more in the SE of England.
Not on class though, look at those numbers. The LDs on 10% with ABC1s but just 7% with C2DEs and 12% with degrees and just 8% with no degrees.
I would say that isn't a major gap by class or education, just your blinkered prejudice.
Perhaps if you canvassed in Lib Dem run Oadby and Wigston you might have a more balanced view than you do from the Home Counties.
It is, the LDs now have a higher percentage of middle class voters than Labour, the Conservatives and Reform. Even Oadby and Wigston is more rural and market town Leicestershire, it is hardly Stoke, Knowsley or Burnley is it!
Obviously you have never been there. It is suburban Leicester.
It isn't really, Oadby and Wigston are market towns not part of Leicester itself
I knew people there. They are very definitely suburbs of Leicester.
Famously not middle class enough for Waitrose to survive. Plus the high street is ugly. Nice housing stock though, in parts.
Malmesbury - I love P. J., but in a nation as large and varied as the US, it is not hard to find people in both those categories.
For a famous example of 1, see the late Nate Hentoff: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nat_Hentoff -- A Jewish atheist who agreed on both issues with many Catholic nuns, who oppose abortion and the death penalty for, as they see it, the same reason.
Briefly, a Downs syndrome baby was allowed to starve to death, rather than have simple surgery done to allow it to feed. At least one other family -- who already had a Downs syndrome child -- offered to adopt the baby, but were refused.)
Yes - PJ was exaggerating. There is a classic Catholic position on this, especially.
Interesting to note Robert Jenrick's proposal to record nationality whenever a criminal is convicted, because "We would want to apply a higher level of scrutiny to nationalities that are higher risk".
That is direct discrimination on the basis of race according to the Equality Act, because the Act explicitly says that "race" includes "nationality".
Except you could equally claim that such recording is required under legislation to ensure that protected groups are… protected.
Hard not to hear that "protected" without thinking of Ronnie and Reggie. If only they had moved to Romford...
The Oxbridge crews standard is really very good. There's a degree of cheating that goes on with people being imported as you suggest, but there's also a really solid level of work that goes on - hang the degree!
The fashion for importing Olympic gold medalists to study Agricultural Science has dropped away.
Everyone on PB should be using Claude 3 opus. Whatever your job is, this tech is going to transform it
And it will probably take your job away in 5-10 years, possibly sooner than that
Those that benefit from it will be those that master it early, and get ahead of the curve, and use it while it is still best as an assistant, rather than doing everything itself (which it will do)
All these suckers taking degrees, taking in debt they will never pay off, hoping for a career when AI will decimate many of their prospective jobs and replace them who god knows what.
Far better to get an apprenticeship and a trade.
Indeed and absolutely right
I fear for my kids. I’m not completely delighted by this tech, half of me is terrified, but I’m not going to live in denial. It’s here and it’s real and it’s not going away
On the upside, we possibly live in the most interesting moment in human history. The creation of a superior and alien intelligence
I am reminded of this prescient article in the Spectator, 16 months ago, comparing the arrival of AI to the arrival of Europeans in Australia
“A few decades after the first contact art appeared in Arnhemland, the Aboriginal people were largely swept from their homelands by the economic forces and political changes brought by European settlers. But not everyone deserted these silent red canyons and bright lilied waterways. In the 2000s, the last native speaker of the local Amurdag language, Charlie Mungulda, returned to the Mount Borradaile rockfaces to paint a symbolic and final hand, a scarlet print which says ‘remember us, because we were here’. With this ritual, he signalled an end to 50,000 continuous years of Aboriginal art in West Arnhemland. Nothing has been painted in Mount Borrodaile since. Nor will it be.”
That’s pretty interesting. I know people mock you but your comments and articles do provoke thought. Far more than many others. I find peoples blasé attitude towards this surprising. The risks are plain to see.
Elon Musk reckons AGI by 2030.
I was mocked when I said “covid is coming” in late January 2020
Now I am saying: AGI is coming
For balance you were also mocked for promoting Putin as defender of Judaeo-Christian values and suggesting Truss might surprise on the upside.
That was the Liz truss in the necklace, that woman? The necklace I spotted within 2 minutes of watching the debate, when the rest of you were utterly clueless?
That Liz truss?
The actuality of PM Truss was quite a bit after your necklace burbling. I think it’s fair to say she pretty much surprised on the downside, even for those of us with low expectations.
Interesting and surprisingly sympathetic dissection in today's Guardian of the total failure that is Liz Truss
If that article is sympathetic I'd like to read an unsympathetic one. But interesting to learn that the Trumpites think she's a total fraud. And is she really at risk in South West Norfolk?
If she loses SW Norfolk the Tories are probably losing by 20 points plus nationally, its in the top 15 safest Tory seats even if we make allowance for her being a complete twit
If it goes that's Ed Davey installed as leader of the tattered remnants of the opposition, and possibly the end of the Conservative Party itself. Even if the defeat removes quite a lot of the blue rosette on a pig safe seats, we're not going to end up with a Canada 1993 wipeout. Even if they do deserve it.
Actually the idea that there might be a general reformation on the liberal right is the only good explanation of why the LDs have Davey as a leader.
My limited knowledge of the Lib Dems suggests that they're a party largely consisting of progressive activists, but which aims to advance itself by winning the support of well to do, ageing Home Counties nimbies from the Conservatives. Quite how such a party will go about trying to construct a coherent platform, if it becomes sufficiently relevant for this to be important for them again, is anyone's guess.
Actually the striking thing about LD support is how evenly spread it is across all demographics, unlike Labour or Conservative or Reform. A little less in Wales and Scotland and a bit more in the SE of England.
Nonetheless, the large majority of their realistic targets in England (save in the case of a total Tory implosion, in which case Labour might just sweep almost everything anyway) are in the South East. They'll be doing very well indeed to get more than three or four seats between Cambridge and the Tweed.
Yes, more snobs now vote LD than Tory and that has been the case since Brexit
What an extraordinary post!
Done on canvassing experience, go to the most expensive detached houses in the Home Counties and more likely than not the voters will be LD, certainly outside rural areas and when they are patronising with it (especially at local elections). Even if most of them still voted Tory in 2019 in the GE to keep out Corbyn now he has been replaced with Starmer many of them will vote LD without fear of Labour at general elections too
How do you know they’re ‘snobs’ though?
One for example looked at us and our rosette down his rimmed glasses, said 'I don't think so' and slammed the door.
You also only have to see some of the comments from Roger et al etc on here, the sheer contempt some diehard Remainers have for working class Leavers and the LDs have the highest percentage of diehard Remainers amongst their voters.
Nonsense, I am a lifelong Tory and I've looked down on the working classes long before Brexit.
Yet who did you vote for at the last 2 general elections? The Liberal Democrats.
I rest my case!
I am voting Tory at the next general election.
OK but Rishi will be the first Tory leader you have voted for since Cameron, the fact you have decided to vote Tory again under Sunak just as working class Leavers in the redwall have deserted the Tories for Labour or Reform still doesn't change the point much
While I think TSE has made a strange decision, doesn’t the fact that normally rational and sensible chap like him wouldn’t vote for a party led by May or Johnson say something about the state of the Conservative Party?
Mind, I’ve only voted Conservative once, in 65 years on the electoral register, and that was in a County Council when my father was the candidate. He lost, which was a bit of a relief, really.
It was more to do with local politics at first.
In 2017 I had an inkling that Clegg might be in trouble (I didn't in 2015) and really didn't want a Corbynite winning the seat.
Sadly he did win and in 2019 I think I would have voted Tory in 2019 if Hallam was a Lab/Con marginal because Corbyn shouldn't be anywhere near power (the same applies to Boris Johnson) but his history of always not being on the UK's side which was exemplified by the Salisbury poisonings would have got me campaigning for the Tories in 2019.
Something Corbyn and his supporters never answer, why is it the SNP, who want to break up the UK, saw the evidence provided by the government and intelligence services and concluded that the Russians were behind the Salisbury poisonings but Corbyn didn't?
Everyone on PB should be using Claude 3 opus. Whatever your job is, this tech is going to transform it
And it will probably take your job away in 5-10 years, possibly sooner than that
Those that benefit from it will be those that master it early, and get ahead of the curve, and use it while it is still best as an assistant, rather than doing everything itself (which it will do)
All these suckers taking degrees, taking in debt they will never pay off, hoping for a career when AI will decimate many of their prospective jobs and replace them who god knows what.
Far better to get an apprenticeship and a trade.
Indeed and absolutely right
I fear for my kids. I’m not completely delighted by this tech, half of me is terrified, but I’m not going to live in denial. It’s here and it’s real and it’s not going away
On the upside, we possibly live in the most interesting moment in human history. The creation of a superior and alien intelligence
I am reminded of this prescient article in the Spectator, 16 months ago, comparing the arrival of AI to the arrival of Europeans in Australia
“A few decades after the first contact art appeared in Arnhemland, the Aboriginal people were largely swept from their homelands by the economic forces and political changes brought by European settlers. But not everyone deserted these silent red canyons and bright lilied waterways. In the 2000s, the last native speaker of the local Amurdag language, Charlie Mungulda, returned to the Mount Borradaile rockfaces to paint a symbolic and final hand, a scarlet print which says ‘remember us, because we were here’. With this ritual, he signalled an end to 50,000 continuous years of Aboriginal art in West Arnhemland. Nothing has been painted in Mount Borrodaile since. Nor will it be.”
That’s pretty interesting. I know people mock you but your comments and articles do provoke thought. Far more than many others. I find peoples blasé attitude towards this surprising. The risks are plain to see.
Elon Musk reckons AGI by 2030.
I was mocked when I said “covid is coming” in late January 2020
Now I am saying: AGI is coming
For balance you were also mocked for promoting Putin as defender of Judaeo-Christian values and suggesting Truss might surprise on the upside.
That was the Liz truss in the necklace, that woman? The necklace I spotted within 2 minutes of watching the debate, when the rest of you were utterly clueless?
That Liz truss?
The actuality of PM Truss was quite a bit after your necklace burbling. I think it’s fair to say she pretty much surprised on the downside, even for those of us with low expectations.
Interesting and surprisingly sympathetic dissection in today's Guardian of the total failure that is Liz Truss
If that article is sympathetic I'd like to read an unsympathetic one. But interesting to learn that the Trumpites think she's a total fraud. And is she really at risk in South West Norfolk?
If she loses SW Norfolk the Tories are probably losing by 20 points plus nationally, its in the top 15 safest Tory seats even if we make allowance for her being a complete twit
If it goes that's Ed Davey installed as leader of the tattered remnants of the opposition, and possibly the end of the Conservative Party itself. Even if the defeat removes quite a lot of the blue rosette on a pig safe seats, we're not going to end up with a Canada 1993 wipeout. Even if they do deserve it.
Actually the idea that there might be a general reformation on the liberal right is the only good explanation of why the LDs have Davey as a leader.
My limited knowledge of the Lib Dems suggests that they're a party largely consisting of progressive activists, but which aims to advance itself by winning the support of well to do, ageing Home Counties nimbies from the Conservatives. Quite how such a party will go about trying to construct a coherent platform, if it becomes sufficiently relevant for this to be important for them again, is anyone's guess.
Actually the striking thing about LD support is how evenly spread it is across all demographics, unlike Labour or Conservative or Reform. A little less in Wales and Scotland and a bit more in the SE of England.
Nonetheless, the large majority of their realistic targets in England (save in the case of a total Tory implosion, in which case Labour might just sweep almost everything anyway) are in the South East. They'll be doing very well indeed to get more than three or four seats between Cambridge and the Tweed.
Yes, more snobs now vote LD than Tory and that has been the case since Brexit
What an extraordinary post!
Done on canvassing experience, go to the most expensive detached houses in the Home Counties and more likely than not the voters will be LD, certainly outside rural areas and when they are patronising with it (especially at local elections). Even if most of them still voted Tory in 2019 in the GE to keep out Corbyn now he has been replaced with Starmer many of them will vote LD without fear of Labour at general elections too
How do you know they’re ‘snobs’ though?
One for example looked at us and our rosette down his rimmed glasses, said 'I don't think so' and slammed the door.
You also only have to see some of the comments from Roger et al etc on here, the sheer contempt some diehard Remainers have for working class Leavers and the LDs have the highest percentage of diehard Remainers amongst their voters.
Nonsense, I am a lifelong Tory and I've looked down on the working classes long before Brexit.
Yet who did you vote for at the last 2 general elections? The Liberal Democrats.
I rest my case!
I am voting Tory at the next general election.
Sunak has one convert!
Appointing David Cameron as Foreign Secretary was what clinched my vote.
David Cameron is the only minister in this sorry government making any serious effort at all.
What's he done that is serious. Passed me by.
Michael Gove can be decent, but I don't think Sunak is letting him be.
Hunt has done some very good work, especially on National Insurance, credit where it's due.
But the rest of the sorry bunch need to go to the Opposition benches, or out of Parliament altogether.
Gove's folding on leaseholds has been sad to watch. Powell's dictum rather applies.
Interesting to note Robert Jenrick's proposal to record nationality whenever a criminal is convicted, because "We would want to apply a higher level of scrutiny to nationalities that are higher risk".
That is direct discrimination on the basis of race according to the Equality Act, because the Act explicitly says that "race" includes "nationality".
Except you could equally claim that such recording is required under legislation to ensure that protected groups are… protected.
The Oxbridge crews standard is really very good. There's a degree of cheating that goes on with people being imported as you suggest, but there's also a really solid level of work that goes on - hang the degree!
The fashion for importing Olympic gold medalists to study Agricultural Science has dropped away.
The Oxbridge crews standard is really very good. There's a degree of cheating that goes on with people being imported as you suggest, but there's also a really solid level of work that goes on - hang the degree!
The fashion for importing Olympic gold medalists to study Agricultural Science has dropped away.
The Oxbridge crews standard is really very good. There's a degree of cheating that goes on with people being imported as you suggest, but there's also a really solid level of work that goes on - hang the degree!
The fashion for importing Olympic gold medalists to study Agricultural Science has dropped away.
In part because the home-grown crews are so committed.
Ironically, it seems your ban on AI chat has killed the site: 7 comments in half an hour (the last on AI)
So the people that liked this tweet - @Foxy, @bondegezou and @Mexicanpete - don't actually have anything interesting to say, about anything else
The reason for so few comments is that sensible folk like me have been out in the sunshine and fresh air.
That and everyone else being driven off by tedious repetition of AI wittering every thread.
Nice and sunny on the Island.
Indeed, thankfully Robert has put the kibosh on AI/AGI chat for the foreseeable.
Which I must say is ridiculous
I get that I can be obsessive, and enthusiastic - it inspires me - and sometimes that can be annoying - soz - but it means you guys also learn stuff you would not, perhaps, otherwise learn
Moreover, this is THE subject of the moment, banning discussion of it (for the foreseeable) means that PB-ers will be uninformed about the most momentous development in human society, which is a shame and also stupid
But it is your pub, and if that's what the pub desires, so be it. I'm off
I find the subject very interesting, but less is more sometimes.
The Oxbridge crews standard is really very good. There's a degree of cheating that goes on with people being imported as you suggest, but there's also a really solid level of work that goes on - hang the degree!
The fashion for importing Olympic gold medalists to study Agricultural Science has dropped away.
I think a June/July election has got to be value at this point.
Why? The Conservatives will get tonked in the locals, then what? Tories pressing Rishi to resign will not be doing so because they want to see Starmer in Number 10. They will be hoping for someone to turn things round, which surely gets us through the summer.
I agree. May was always possible, but waiting until you get a thrashing in the locals and then calling an election would be bizarre. The only reason for a summer election is if it is forced for some reason.
Anyway just been delivering and I'm now going out into the garden to tend my fruit and flower beds.
PS I have been reluctant to report this as, as you know, anecdotal and unreliable, but from what I have been hearing in Surrey seat canvassing the Tory vote is disintegrating.
The one thing the LDs can't afford to do is to be over ambitious. Stick to the plan (as someone always says) and concentrate on the seats where the work has been put in. 30 MPs mean a lot more than 20 MPs and 20 close second places.
I think kjh is right about Surrey. But there's no doubt that the LDs are spending a lot of money on at least their top 60 targets (cf. my discussion with Andy Cooke about Didcot and Wantage, which is not in their top 30 list and will have an intense Labour effort as well). I imagine that the spending will be reviewed as the election approaches, perhaps with some private polling to see what is actually within reach.
Everyone on PB should be using Claude 3 opus. Whatever your job is, this tech is going to transform it
And it will probably take your job away in 5-10 years, possibly sooner than that
Those that benefit from it will be those that master it early, and get ahead of the curve, and use it while it is still best as an assistant, rather than doing everything itself (which it will do)
All these suckers taking degrees, taking in debt they will never pay off, hoping for a career when AI will decimate many of their prospective jobs and replace them who god knows what.
Far better to get an apprenticeship and a trade.
Indeed and absolutely right
I fear for my kids. I’m not completely delighted by this tech, half of me is terrified, but I’m not going to live in denial. It’s here and it’s real and it’s not going away
On the upside, we possibly live in the most interesting moment in human history. The creation of a superior and alien intelligence
I am reminded of this prescient article in the Spectator, 16 months ago, comparing the arrival of AI to the arrival of Europeans in Australia
“A few decades after the first contact art appeared in Arnhemland, the Aboriginal people were largely swept from their homelands by the economic forces and political changes brought by European settlers. But not everyone deserted these silent red canyons and bright lilied waterways. In the 2000s, the last native speaker of the local Amurdag language, Charlie Mungulda, returned to the Mount Borradaile rockfaces to paint a symbolic and final hand, a scarlet print which says ‘remember us, because we were here’. With this ritual, he signalled an end to 50,000 continuous years of Aboriginal art in West Arnhemland. Nothing has been painted in Mount Borrodaile since. Nor will it be.”
That’s pretty interesting. I know people mock you but your comments and articles do provoke thought. Far more than many others. I find peoples blasé attitude towards this surprising. The risks are plain to see.
Elon Musk reckons AGI by 2030.
I was mocked when I said “covid is coming” in late January 2020
Now I am saying: AGI is coming
For balance you were also mocked for promoting Putin as defender of Judaeo-Christian values and suggesting Truss might surprise on the upside.
That was the Liz truss in the necklace, that woman? The necklace I spotted within 2 minutes of watching the debate, when the rest of you were utterly clueless?
That Liz truss?
The actuality of PM Truss was quite a bit after your necklace burbling. I think it’s fair to say she pretty much surprised on the downside, even for those of us with low expectations.
Interesting and surprisingly sympathetic dissection in today's Guardian of the total failure that is Liz Truss
If that article is sympathetic I'd like to read an unsympathetic one. But interesting to learn that the Trumpites think she's a total fraud. And is she really at risk in South West Norfolk?
If she loses SW Norfolk the Tories are probably losing by 20 points plus nationally, its in the top 15 safest Tory seats even if we make allowance for her being a complete twit
If it goes that's Ed Davey installed as leader of the tattered remnants of the opposition, and possibly the end of the Conservative Party itself. Even if the defeat removes quite a lot of the blue rosette on a pig safe seats, we're not going to end up with a Canada 1993 wipeout. Even if they do deserve it.
Actually the idea that there might be a general reformation on the liberal right is the only good explanation of why the LDs have Davey as a leader.
My limited knowledge of the Lib Dems suggests that they're a party largely consisting of progressive activists, but which aims to advance itself by winning the support of well to do, ageing Home Counties nimbies from the Conservatives. Quite how such a party will go about trying to construct a coherent platform, if it becomes sufficiently relevant for this to be important for them again, is anyone's guess.
Actually the striking thing about LD support is how evenly spread it is across all demographics, unlike Labour or Conservative or Reform. A little less in Wales and Scotland and a bit more in the SE of England.
Nonetheless, the large majority of their realistic targets in England (save in the case of a total Tory implosion, in which case Labour might just sweep almost everything anyway) are in the South East. They'll be doing very well indeed to get more than three or four seats between Cambridge and the Tweed.
Yes, more snobs now vote LD than Tory and that has been the case since Brexit
What an extraordinary post!
Done on canvassing experience, go to the most expensive detached houses in the Home Counties and more likely than not the voters will be LD, certainly outside rural areas and when they are patronising with it (especially at local elections). Even if most of them still voted Tory in 2019 in the GE to keep out Corbyn now he has been replaced with Starmer many of them will vote LD without fear of Labour at general elections too
How do you know they’re ‘snobs’ though?
One for example looked at us and our rosette down his rimmed glasses, said 'I don't think so' and slammed the door.
You also only have to see some of the comments from Roger et al etc on here, the sheer contempt some diehard Remainers have for working class Leavers and the LDs have the highest percentage of diehard Remainers amongst their voters.
Nonsense, I am a lifelong Tory and I've looked down on the working classes long before Brexit.
Yet who did you vote for at the last 2 general elections? The Liberal Democrats.
I rest my case!
I am voting Tory at the next general election.
Sunak has one convert!
Appointing David Cameron as Foreign Secretary was what clinched my vote.
David Cameron is the only minister in this sorry government making any serious effort at all.
What's he done that is serious. Passed me by.
Michael Gove can be decent, but I don't think Sunak is letting him be.
Hunt has done some very good work, especially on National Insurance, credit where it's due.
But the rest of the sorry bunch need to go to the Opposition benches, or out of Parliament altogether.
Gove's folding on leaseholds has been sad to watch. Powell's dictum rather applies.
Indeed.
Again I think Gove understands the problems, and wants to do the right thing, but Sunak and the rest of the MPs pandering to the NIMBYs and property interests won't let him.
Perhaps we can call them "the blob" and they need standing up to. Gove now either can't or won't under this PM unfortunately.
Everyone on PB should be using Claude 3 opus. Whatever your job is, this tech is going to transform it
And it will probably take your job away in 5-10 years, possibly sooner than that
Those that benefit from it will be those that master it early, and get ahead of the curve, and use it while it is still best as an assistant, rather than doing everything itself (which it will do)
All these suckers taking degrees, taking in debt they will never pay off, hoping for a career when AI will decimate many of their prospective jobs and replace them who god knows what.
Far better to get an apprenticeship and a trade.
Indeed and absolutely right
I fear for my kids. I’m not completely delighted by this tech, half of me is terrified, but I’m not going to live in denial. It’s here and it’s real and it’s not going away
On the upside, we possibly live in the most interesting moment in human history. The creation of a superior and alien intelligence
I am reminded of this prescient article in the Spectator, 16 months ago, comparing the arrival of AI to the arrival of Europeans in Australia
“A few decades after the first contact art appeared in Arnhemland, the Aboriginal people were largely swept from their homelands by the economic forces and political changes brought by European settlers. But not everyone deserted these silent red canyons and bright lilied waterways. In the 2000s, the last native speaker of the local Amurdag language, Charlie Mungulda, returned to the Mount Borradaile rockfaces to paint a symbolic and final hand, a scarlet print which says ‘remember us, because we were here’. With this ritual, he signalled an end to 50,000 continuous years of Aboriginal art in West Arnhemland. Nothing has been painted in Mount Borrodaile since. Nor will it be.”
That’s pretty interesting. I know people mock you but your comments and articles do provoke thought. Far more than many others. I find peoples blasé attitude towards this surprising. The risks are plain to see.
Elon Musk reckons AGI by 2030.
I was mocked when I said “covid is coming” in late January 2020
Now I am saying: AGI is coming
For balance you were also mocked for promoting Putin as defender of Judaeo-Christian values and suggesting Truss might surprise on the upside.
That was the Liz truss in the necklace, that woman? The necklace I spotted within 2 minutes of watching the debate, when the rest of you were utterly clueless?
That Liz truss?
The actuality of PM Truss was quite a bit after your necklace burbling. I think it’s fair to say she pretty much surprised on the downside, even for those of us with low expectations.
Interesting and surprisingly sympathetic dissection in today's Guardian of the total failure that is Liz Truss
If that article is sympathetic I'd like to read an unsympathetic one. But interesting to learn that the Trumpites think she's a total fraud. And is she really at risk in South West Norfolk?
If she loses SW Norfolk the Tories are probably losing by 20 points plus nationally, its in the top 15 safest Tory seats even if we make allowance for her being a complete twit
If it goes that's Ed Davey installed as leader of the tattered remnants of the opposition, and possibly the end of the Conservative Party itself. Even if the defeat removes quite a lot of the blue rosette on a pig safe seats, we're not going to end up with a Canada 1993 wipeout. Even if they do deserve it.
Actually the idea that there might be a general reformation on the liberal right is the only good explanation of why the LDs have Davey as a leader.
My limited knowledge of the Lib Dems suggests that they're a party largely consisting of progressive activists, but which aims to advance itself by winning the support of well to do, ageing Home Counties nimbies from the Conservatives. Quite how such a party will go about trying to construct a coherent platform, if it becomes sufficiently relevant for this to be important for them again, is anyone's guess.
Actually the striking thing about LD support is how evenly spread it is across all demographics, unlike Labour or Conservative or Reform. A little less in Wales and Scotland and a bit more in the SE of England.
Nonetheless, the large majority of their realistic targets in England (save in the case of a total Tory implosion, in which case Labour might just sweep almost everything anyway) are in the South East. They'll be doing very well indeed to get more than three or four seats between Cambridge and the Tweed.
Yes, more snobs now vote LD than Tory and that has been the case since Brexit
What an extraordinary post!
Done on canvassing experience, go to the most expensive detached houses in the Home Counties and more likely than not the voters will be LD, certainly outside rural areas and when they are patronising with it (especially at local elections). Even if most of them still voted Tory in 2019 in the GE to keep out Corbyn now he has been replaced with Starmer many of them will vote LD without fear of Labour at general elections too
How do you know they’re ‘snobs’ though?
One for example looked at us and our rosette down his rimmed glasses, said 'I don't think so' and slammed the door.
You also only have to see some of the comments from Roger et al etc on here, the sheer contempt some diehard Remainers have for working class Leavers and the LDs have the highest percentage of diehard Remainers amongst their voters.
Nonsense, I am a lifelong Tory and I've looked down on the working classes long before Brexit.
Yet who did you vote for at the last 2 general elections? The Liberal Democrats.
I rest my case!
I am voting Tory at the next general election.
Sunak has one convert!
Appointing David Cameron as Foreign Secretary was what clinched my vote.
David Cameron is the only minister in this sorry government making any serious effort at all.
What's he done that is serious. Passed me by.
Michael Gove can be decent, but I don't think Sunak is letting him be.
Hunt has done some very good work, especially on National Insurance, credit where it's due.
But the rest of the sorry bunch need to go to the Opposition benches, or out of Parliament altogether.
These guys supposedly have a job to do. Only David Cameron is even pretending to do his. I mean determining a foreign policy and then implementing it.
Everyone on PB should be using Claude 3 opus. Whatever your job is, this tech is going to transform it
And it will probably take your job away in 5-10 years, possibly sooner than that
Those that benefit from it will be those that master it early, and get ahead of the curve, and use it while it is still best as an assistant, rather than doing everything itself (which it will do)
All these suckers taking degrees, taking in debt they will never pay off, hoping for a career when AI will decimate many of their prospective jobs and replace them who god knows what.
Far better to get an apprenticeship and a trade.
Indeed and absolutely right
I fear for my kids. I’m not completely delighted by this tech, half of me is terrified, but I’m not going to live in denial. It’s here and it’s real and it’s not going away
On the upside, we possibly live in the most interesting moment in human history. The creation of a superior and alien intelligence
I am reminded of this prescient article in the Spectator, 16 months ago, comparing the arrival of AI to the arrival of Europeans in Australia
“A few decades after the first contact art appeared in Arnhemland, the Aboriginal people were largely swept from their homelands by the economic forces and political changes brought by European settlers. But not everyone deserted these silent red canyons and bright lilied waterways. In the 2000s, the last native speaker of the local Amurdag language, Charlie Mungulda, returned to the Mount Borradaile rockfaces to paint a symbolic and final hand, a scarlet print which says ‘remember us, because we were here’. With this ritual, he signalled an end to 50,000 continuous years of Aboriginal art in West Arnhemland. Nothing has been painted in Mount Borrodaile since. Nor will it be.”
That’s pretty interesting. I know people mock you but your comments and articles do provoke thought. Far more than many others. I find peoples blasé attitude towards this surprising. The risks are plain to see.
Elon Musk reckons AGI by 2030.
I was mocked when I said “covid is coming” in late January 2020
Now I am saying: AGI is coming
For balance you were also mocked for promoting Putin as defender of Judaeo-Christian values and suggesting Truss might surprise on the upside.
That was the Liz truss in the necklace, that woman? The necklace I spotted within 2 minutes of watching the debate, when the rest of you were utterly clueless?
That Liz truss?
The actuality of PM Truss was quite a bit after your necklace burbling. I think it’s fair to say she pretty much surprised on the downside, even for those of us with low expectations.
Interesting and surprisingly sympathetic dissection in today's Guardian of the total failure that is Liz Truss
If that article is sympathetic I'd like to read an unsympathetic one. But interesting to learn that the Trumpites think she's a total fraud. And is she really at risk in South West Norfolk?
If she loses SW Norfolk the Tories are probably losing by 20 points plus nationally, its in the top 15 safest Tory seats even if we make allowance for her being a complete twit
If it goes that's Ed Davey installed as leader of the tattered remnants of the opposition, and possibly the end of the Conservative Party itself. Even if the defeat removes quite a lot of the blue rosette on a pig safe seats, we're not going to end up with a Canada 1993 wipeout. Even if they do deserve it.
Actually the idea that there might be a general reformation on the liberal right is the only good explanation of why the LDs have Davey as a leader.
My limited knowledge of the Lib Dems suggests that they're a party largely consisting of progressive activists, but which aims to advance itself by winning the support of well to do, ageing Home Counties nimbies from the Conservatives. Quite how such a party will go about trying to construct a coherent platform, if it becomes sufficiently relevant for this to be important for them again, is anyone's guess.
Actually the striking thing about LD support is how evenly spread it is across all demographics, unlike Labour or Conservative or Reform. A little less in Wales and Scotland and a bit more in the SE of England.
Nonetheless, the large majority of their realistic targets in England (save in the case of a total Tory implosion, in which case Labour might just sweep almost everything anyway) are in the South East. They'll be doing very well indeed to get more than three or four seats between Cambridge and the Tweed.
Yes, more snobs now vote LD than Tory and that has been the case since Brexit
What an extraordinary post!
Done on canvassing experience, go to the most expensive detached houses in the Home Counties and more likely than not the voters will be LD, certainly outside rural areas and when they are patronising with it (especially at local elections). Even if most of them still voted Tory in 2019 in the GE to keep out Corbyn now he has been replaced with Starmer many of them will vote LD without fear of Labour at general elections too
How do you know they’re ‘snobs’ though?
One for example looked at us and our rosettes down his rimmed glasses, said 'I don't think so' and slammed the door.
You also only have to see some of the comments from Roger et al etc on here, the sheer contempt some diehard Remainers have for working class Leavers and the LDs have the highest percentage of diehard Remainers amongst their voters.
You are a loud and proud elitist so was that an orange rosette you were wearing? You don't strike me as an advocate for the party of the ill-educated workers.
The Oxbridge crews standard is really very good. There's a degree of cheating that goes on with people being imported as you suggest, but there's also a really solid level of work that goes on - hang the degree!
The fashion for importing Olympic gold medalists to study Agricultural Science has dropped away.
Thought it was ‘Land Management’!
Land Economy at Fen Poly.
Ah, yes. Thanks. I attended the other Cambridge university. Part-time.
Everyone on PB should be using Claude 3 opus. Whatever your job is, this tech is going to transform it
And it will probably take your job away in 5-10 years, possibly sooner than that
Those that benefit from it will be those that master it early, and get ahead of the curve, and use it while it is still best as an assistant, rather than doing everything itself (which it will do)
All these suckers taking degrees, taking in debt they will never pay off, hoping for a career when AI will decimate many of their prospective jobs and replace them who god knows what.
Far better to get an apprenticeship and a trade.
Indeed and absolutely right
I fear for my kids. I’m not completely delighted by this tech, half of me is terrified, but I’m not going to live in denial. It’s here and it’s real and it’s not going away
On the upside, we possibly live in the most interesting moment in human history. The creation of a superior and alien intelligence
I am reminded of this prescient article in the Spectator, 16 months ago, comparing the arrival of AI to the arrival of Europeans in Australia
“A few decades after the first contact art appeared in Arnhemland, the Aboriginal people were largely swept from their homelands by the economic forces and political changes brought by European settlers. But not everyone deserted these silent red canyons and bright lilied waterways. In the 2000s, the last native speaker of the local Amurdag language, Charlie Mungulda, returned to the Mount Borradaile rockfaces to paint a symbolic and final hand, a scarlet print which says ‘remember us, because we were here’. With this ritual, he signalled an end to 50,000 continuous years of Aboriginal art in West Arnhemland. Nothing has been painted in Mount Borrodaile since. Nor will it be.”
That’s pretty interesting. I know people mock you but your comments and articles do provoke thought. Far more than many others. I find peoples blasé attitude towards this surprising. The risks are plain to see.
Elon Musk reckons AGI by 2030.
I was mocked when I said “covid is coming” in late January 2020
Now I am saying: AGI is coming
For balance you were also mocked for promoting Putin as defender of Judaeo-Christian values and suggesting Truss might surprise on the upside.
That was the Liz truss in the necklace, that woman? The necklace I spotted within 2 minutes of watching the debate, when the rest of you were utterly clueless?
That Liz truss?
The actuality of PM Truss was quite a bit after your necklace burbling. I think it’s fair to say she pretty much surprised on the downside, even for those of us with low expectations.
Interesting and surprisingly sympathetic dissection in today's Guardian of the total failure that is Liz Truss
If that article is sympathetic I'd like to read an unsympathetic one. But interesting to learn that the Trumpites think she's a total fraud. And is she really at risk in South West Norfolk?
If she loses SW Norfolk the Tories are probably losing by 20 points plus nationally, its in the top 15 safest Tory seats even if we make allowance for her being a complete twit
If it goes that's Ed Davey installed as leader of the tattered remnants of the opposition, and possibly the end of the Conservative Party itself. Even if the defeat removes quite a lot of the blue rosette on a pig safe seats, we're not going to end up with a Canada 1993 wipeout. Even if they do deserve it.
Actually the idea that there might be a general reformation on the liberal right is the only good explanation of why the LDs have Davey as a leader.
My limited knowledge of the Lib Dems suggests that they're a party largely consisting of progressive activists, but which aims to advance itself by winning the support of well to do, ageing Home Counties nimbies from the Conservatives. Quite how such a party will go about trying to construct a coherent platform, if it becomes sufficiently relevant for this to be important for them again, is anyone's guess.
Actually the striking thing about LD support is how evenly spread it is across all demographics, unlike Labour or Conservative or Reform. A little less in Wales and Scotland and a bit more in the SE of England.
Nonetheless, the large majority of their realistic targets in England (save in the case of a total Tory implosion, in which case Labour might just sweep almost everything anyway) are in the South East. They'll be doing very well indeed to get more than three or four seats between Cambridge and the Tweed.
Yes, more snobs now vote LD than Tory and that has been the case since Brexit
What an extraordinary post!
Done on canvassing experience, go to the most expensive detached houses in the Home Counties and more likely than not the voters will be LD, certainly outside rural areas and when they are patronising with it (especially at local elections). Even if most of them still voted Tory in 2019 in the GE to keep out Corbyn now he has been replaced with Starmer many of them will vote LD without fear of Labour at general elections too
How do you know they’re ‘snobs’ though?
One for example looked at us and our rosette down his rimmed glasses, said 'I don't think so' and slammed the door.
You also only have to see some of the comments from Roger et al etc on here, the sheer contempt some diehard Remainers have for working class Leavers and the LDs have the highest percentage of diehard Remainers amongst their voters.
Nonsense, I am a lifelong Tory and I've looked down on the working classes long before Brexit.
Yet who did you vote for at the last 2 general elections? The Liberal Democrats.
I rest my case!
I am voting Tory at the next general election.
Sunak has one convert!
Appointing David Cameron as Foreign Secretary was what clinched my vote.
David Cameron is the only minister in this sorry government making any serious effort at all.
What's he done that is serious. Passed me by.
Michael Gove can be decent, but I don't think Sunak is letting him be.
Hunt has done some very good work, especially on National Insurance, credit where it's due.
But the rest of the sorry bunch need to go to the Opposition benches, or out of Parliament altogether.
These guys supposedly have a job to do. Only David Cameron is even pretending to do his. I mean determining a foreign policy and then implementing it.
What has Cameron actually done? What policy changes, what implementation?
The problem with Foreign Office as a great office of state is that nowadays foreign policy is largely in the control of the PM.
The country has had the right policy on Ukraine since before either Cameron or Sunak had their positions.
I can't think of a single significant foreign policy change or implementation since Cameron came. Which is no slight on Cameron though, I'm not sure what he can do nowadays.
Trident is reliable - The US has been firing them yearly since they came into service. With a very high success rate
Since we are literally using the same missile - it’s on the RN to explain the failures.
Your information is incorrect. The failure of the test under Cameron was a fault in the US guidance systems and Obama asked us to keep it secret because it was detrimental to the reputation of the US programme. We must assume that something similar happened under May when the missiles turned tail and decided to head back to the US.
Whether this points to some difference in systems, potentially allowing the US to alter the outcome of a British missile strike, is entering the realms of conspiracy theory. It is a theory that events aren't entirely inconsistent woth though.
If they had that capability why would they demonstrate it to the world?
Undermines the attractiveness of US weapons to other buyers
Undermines the US’s most consistent ally
Provides the US’s adversaries with useful intelligence
Overall makes zero sense
I don't think they would have been planning to demonstrate it to the world. If the capability of rerouting and disarming the warheads in the eventuality of a real strike exists, it could have been malfunctioning. Or the British could have changed the destination target of the test (which I am sure they share with the US) at the last minute without telling the US, so as to make it a 'real test', and it made the failsafe systems click in.
That said, I'm not aware that there are any other potential customers for Trident. The EU would be the only potential one, and the French wouldn't have it. They're not stupid. And UK Governments it seems will continue to be willing buyers regardless of how poor and ineffective the system appears to be.
I always put it this way - if you were the USA, would you give the UK the ability to blow up the world at will without any say? I wouldn't.
Excepting that they have, on multiple occasions.
Hell, in Germany, in the late 50s/early 60s, you had American nuclear bombs hanging off German fighter bombers. With the pilot sometimes having a tin tie from the late unpleasantness. And no lock of any kind on the bomb.
Your knowledge of military history is far superior to mine. But going off what I see now, I do not see today's USA being happy to provide a fully independent nuclear deterrent (that could be used against the USA itself, quite apart from someone the USA didn't want to be fried) without profound ways of influencing the course of those events.
If I were today's UK politicians, I would move away from Trident, ensuring that I was spending enough on other US weapons to minimise the fury. I would consider gifting Trident to the EU, but I don't think even they would be silly enough to take it, grandiose military ambitions or no.
The level of integration of the US/UK nuclear programs is startling - often to US politicians when they learn of it.
The US/UK nuclear weapons designs are flavours of the same basic designs. It’s not so much that the Americans let us see their designs as that *US* nuclear weapons are actually joint US/UK designs. As are the U.K. weapons. U.K. and US scientists in the weapons programs have unrestricted access to the joint designs. Peanuts and all….
Oh, and there are strict agreements on both sides about not giving third parties access. To either warhead designs or Trident. Which really upsets the French, when it comes up.
Some of the related agreements on submarine technology meant that the Australia nuke submarine deal *had* to include both the US and U.K., together.
At the start of the Trident program, the idea of a joint program with the French was explored. The French offered to sell missiles - but refused to allow manufacture in the U.K. and wanted a higher price than Trident. Plus they wanted full access to Polaris and warhead design. When it was pointed out that such sharing was forbidden - the French were surprised that we would honour it…
The Oxbridge crews standard is really very good. There's a degree of cheating that goes on with people being imported as you suggest, but there's also a really solid level of work that goes on - hang the degree!
The fashion for importing Olympic gold medalists to study Agricultural Science has dropped away.
Thought it was ‘Land Management’!
Land Economy at Fen Poly.
Ah, yes. Thanks. I attended the other Cambridge university. Part-time.
So you'll know all about keeping track of changing names then!
Interesting to note Robert Jenrick's proposal to record nationality whenever a criminal is convicted, because "We would want to apply a higher level of scrutiny to nationalities that are higher risk".
That is direct discrimination on the basis of race according to the Equality Act, because the Act explicitly says that "race" includes "nationality".
Except you could equally claim that such recording is required under legislation to ensure that protected groups are… protected.
Hard not to hear that "protected" without thinking of Ronnie and Reggie. If only they had moved to Romford...
Bit like the Respect party. I have trouble not making a gang sign, every time I hear the name.
The Oxbridge crews standard is really very good. There's a degree of cheating that goes on with people being imported as you suggest, but there's also a really solid level of work that goes on - hang the degree!
The fashion for importing Olympic gold medalists to study Agricultural Science has dropped away.
Thought it was ‘Land Management’!
Land Economy at Fen Poly.
Ah, yes. Thanks. I attended the other Cambridge university. Part-time.
So you'll know all about keeping track of changing names then!
Went from Almost a Proper University to Almost a Real University!
Everyone on PB should be using Claude 3 opus. Whatever your job is, this tech is going to transform it
And it will probably take your job away in 5-10 years, possibly sooner than that
Those that benefit from it will be those that master it early, and get ahead of the curve, and use it while it is still best as an assistant, rather than doing everything itself (which it will do)
All these suckers taking degrees, taking in debt they will never pay off, hoping for a career when AI will decimate many of their prospective jobs and replace them who god knows what.
Far better to get an apprenticeship and a trade.
Indeed and absolutely right
I fear for my kids. I’m not completely delighted by this tech, half of me is terrified, but I’m not going to live in denial. It’s here and it’s real and it’s not going away
On the upside, we possibly live in the most interesting moment in human history. The creation of a superior and alien intelligence
I am reminded of this prescient article in the Spectator, 16 months ago, comparing the arrival of AI to the arrival of Europeans in Australia
“A few decades after the first contact art appeared in Arnhemland, the Aboriginal people were largely swept from their homelands by the economic forces and political changes brought by European settlers. But not everyone deserted these silent red canyons and bright lilied waterways. In the 2000s, the last native speaker of the local Amurdag language, Charlie Mungulda, returned to the Mount Borradaile rockfaces to paint a symbolic and final hand, a scarlet print which says ‘remember us, because we were here’. With this ritual, he signalled an end to 50,000 continuous years of Aboriginal art in West Arnhemland. Nothing has been painted in Mount Borrodaile since. Nor will it be.”
That’s pretty interesting. I know people mock you but your comments and articles do provoke thought. Far more than many others. I find peoples blasé attitude towards this surprising. The risks are plain to see.
Elon Musk reckons AGI by 2030.
I was mocked when I said “covid is coming” in late January 2020
Now I am saying: AGI is coming
For balance you were also mocked for promoting Putin as defender of Judaeo-Christian values and suggesting Truss might surprise on the upside.
That was the Liz truss in the necklace, that woman? The necklace I spotted within 2 minutes of watching the debate, when the rest of you were utterly clueless?
That Liz truss?
The actuality of PM Truss was quite a bit after your necklace burbling. I think it’s fair to say she pretty much surprised on the downside, even for those of us with low expectations.
Interesting and surprisingly sympathetic dissection in today's Guardian of the total failure that is Liz Truss
If that article is sympathetic I'd like to read an unsympathetic one. But interesting to learn that the Trumpites think she's a total fraud. And is she really at risk in South West Norfolk?
If she loses SW Norfolk the Tories are probably losing by 20 points plus nationally, its in the top 15 safest Tory seats even if we make allowance for her being a complete twit
If it goes that's Ed Davey installed as leader of the tattered remnants of the opposition, and possibly the end of the Conservative Party itself. Even if the defeat removes quite a lot of the blue rosette on a pig safe seats, we're not going to end up with a Canada 1993 wipeout. Even if they do deserve it.
Actually the idea that there might be a general reformation on the liberal right is the only good explanation of why the LDs have Davey as a leader.
My limited knowledge of the Lib Dems suggests that they're a party largely consisting of progressive activists, but which aims to advance itself by winning the support of well to do, ageing Home Counties nimbies from the Conservatives. Quite how such a party will go about trying to construct a coherent platform, if it becomes sufficiently relevant for this to be important for them again, is anyone's guess.
Actually the striking thing about LD support is how evenly spread it is across all demographics, unlike Labour or Conservative or Reform. A little less in Wales and Scotland and a bit more in the SE of England.
Not on class though, look at those numbers. The LDs on 10% with ABC1s but just 7% with C2DEs and 12% with degrees and just 8% with no degrees.
I would say that isn't a major gap by class or education, just your blinkered prejudice.
Perhaps if you canvassed in Lib Dem run Oadby and Wigston you might have a more balanced view than you do from the Home Counties.
It is, the LDs now have a higher percentage of middle class voters than Labour, the Conservatives and Reform. Even Oadby and Wigston is more rural and market town Leicestershire, it is hardly Stoke, Knowsley or Burnley is it!
Obviously you have never been there. It is suburban Leicester.
It isn't really, Oadby and Wigston are market towns not part of Leicester itself
I knew people there. They are very definitely suburbs of Leicester.
Famously not middle class enough for Waitrose to survive. Plus the high street is ugly. Nice housing stock though, in parts.
Yes, some big houses near the Spire hospital, but mostly a mix of new builds, 1930s semis and Edwardian terraces. Very middle England literally and socially.
Interesting to note Robert Jenrick's proposal to record nationality whenever a criminal is convicted, because "We would want to apply a higher level of scrutiny to nationalities that are higher risk".
That is direct discrimination on the basis of race according to the Equality Act, because the Act explicitly says that "race" includes "nationality".
Except you could equally claim that such recording is required under legislation to ensure that protected groups are… protected.
Hard not to hear that "protected" without thinking of Ronnie and Reggie. If only they had moved to Romford...
Bit like the Respect party. I have trouble not making a gang sign, every time I hear the name.
The Oxbridge crews standard is really very good. There's a degree of cheating that goes on with people being imported as you suggest, but there's also a really solid level of work that goes on - hang the degree!
The fashion for importing Olympic gold medalists to study Agricultural Science has dropped away.
In part because the home-grown crews are so committed.
Indeed. At the club, we’ve got teenagers from the local state schools coming in at 6 in the morning all through the year. Rowing before school. One grad of that just placed in the last Head.
Interesting to note Robert Jenrick's proposal to record nationality whenever a criminal is convicted, because "We would want to apply a higher level of scrutiny to nationalities that are higher risk".
That is direct discrimination on the basis of race according to the Equality Act, because the Act explicitly says that "race" includes "nationality".
Except you could equally claim that such recording is required under legislation to ensure that protected groups are… protected.
Hard not to hear that "protected" without thinking of Ronnie and Reggie. If only they had moved to Romford...
Bit like the Respect party. I have trouble not making a gang sign, every time I hear the name.
Makes me think of Aretha Franklin.
Respect make me think more about mindless aggro, cars bouncing up and down as they cruise by etc…
Everyone on PB should be using Claude 3 opus. Whatever your job is, this tech is going to transform it
And it will probably take your job away in 5-10 years, possibly sooner than that
Those that benefit from it will be those that master it early, and get ahead of the curve, and use it while it is still best as an assistant, rather than doing everything itself (which it will do)
All these suckers taking degrees, taking in debt they will never pay off, hoping for a career when AI will decimate many of their prospective jobs and replace them who god knows what.
Far better to get an apprenticeship and a trade.
Indeed and absolutely right
I fear for my kids. I’m not completely delighted by this tech, half of me is terrified, but I’m not going to live in denial. It’s here and it’s real and it’s not going away
On the upside, we possibly live in the most interesting moment in human history. The creation of a superior and alien intelligence
I am reminded of this prescient article in the Spectator, 16 months ago, comparing the arrival of AI to the arrival of Europeans in Australia
“A few decades after the first contact art appeared in Arnhemland, the Aboriginal people were largely swept from their homelands by the economic forces and political changes brought by European settlers. But not everyone deserted these silent red canyons and bright lilied waterways. In the 2000s, the last native speaker of the local Amurdag language, Charlie Mungulda, returned to the Mount Borradaile rockfaces to paint a symbolic and final hand, a scarlet print which says ‘remember us, because we were here’. With this ritual, he signalled an end to 50,000 continuous years of Aboriginal art in West Arnhemland. Nothing has been painted in Mount Borrodaile since. Nor will it be.”
That’s pretty interesting. I know people mock you but your comments and articles do provoke thought. Far more than many others. I find peoples blasé attitude towards this surprising. The risks are plain to see.
Elon Musk reckons AGI by 2030.
I was mocked when I said “covid is coming” in late January 2020
Now I am saying: AGI is coming
For balance you were also mocked for promoting Putin as defender of Judaeo-Christian values and suggesting Truss might surprise on the upside.
That was the Liz truss in the necklace, that woman? The necklace I spotted within 2 minutes of watching the debate, when the rest of you were utterly clueless?
That Liz truss?
The actuality of PM Truss was quite a bit after your necklace burbling. I think it’s fair to say she pretty much surprised on the downside, even for those of us with low expectations.
Interesting and surprisingly sympathetic dissection in today's Guardian of the total failure that is Liz Truss
If that article is sympathetic I'd like to read an unsympathetic one. But interesting to learn that the Trumpites think she's a total fraud. And is she really at risk in South West Norfolk?
If she loses SW Norfolk the Tories are probably losing by 20 points plus nationally, its in the top 15 safest Tory seats even if we make allowance for her being a complete twit
If it goes that's Ed Davey installed as leader of the tattered remnants of the opposition, and possibly the end of the Conservative Party itself. Even if the defeat removes quite a lot of the blue rosette on a pig safe seats, we're not going to end up with a Canada 1993 wipeout. Even if they do deserve it.
Actually the idea that there might be a general reformation on the liberal right is the only good explanation of why the LDs have Davey as a leader.
My limited knowledge of the Lib Dems suggests that they're a party largely consisting of progressive activists, but which aims to advance itself by winning the support of well to do, ageing Home Counties nimbies from the Conservatives. Quite how such a party will go about trying to construct a coherent platform, if it becomes sufficiently relevant for this to be important for them again, is anyone's guess.
Actually the striking thing about LD support is how evenly spread it is across all demographics, unlike Labour or Conservative or Reform. A little less in Wales and Scotland and a bit more in the SE of England.
Not on class though, look at those numbers. The LDs on 10% with ABC1s but just 7% with C2DEs and 12% with degrees and just 8% with no degrees.
I would say that isn't a major gap by class or education, just your blinkered prejudice.
Perhaps if you canvassed in Lib Dem run Oadby and Wigston you might have a more balanced view than you do from the Home Counties.
It is, the LDs now have a higher percentage of middle class voters than Labour, the Conservatives and Reform. Even Oadby and Wigston is more rural and market town Leicestershire, it is hardly Stoke, Knowsley or Burnley is it!
Obviously you have never been there. It is suburban Leicester.
It isn't really, Oadby and Wigston are market towns not part of Leicester itself
I knew people there. They are very definitely suburbs of Leicester.
No they aren't, neither are part of Leicester district council, they are both separate market towns in their own district.
'Oadby is a town in the borough of Oadby and Wigston in Leicestershire, England. Oadby is a district centre 4 miles (6.4 km) south-east of Leicester on the A6 road.' https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oadby
'Wigston is 4 miles (6.4 km) south of the city of Leicester, at the centre of Leicestershire and the East Midlands.' https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wigston
Interesting to note Robert Jenrick's proposal to record nationality whenever a criminal is convicted, because "We would want to apply a higher level of scrutiny to nationalities that are higher risk".
That is direct discrimination on the basis of race according to the Equality Act, because the Act explicitly says that "race" includes "nationality".
Classification isn't discrimination. Discrimination is acting differently if the person is X. Classification is recording that the person is X
It really would help if people could be bothered to read. Jenrick said "We would want to apply a higher level of scrutiny to nationalities that are higher risk".
Interesting to note Robert Jenrick's proposal to record nationality whenever a criminal is convicted, because "We would want to apply a higher level of scrutiny to nationalities that are higher risk".
That is direct discrimination on the basis of race according to the Equality Act, because the Act explicitly says that "race" includes "nationality".
Except you could equally claim that such recording is required under legislation to ensure that protected groups are… protected.
It really would help if people could be bothered to read. Jenrick said "We would want to apply a higher level of scrutiny to nationalities that are higher risk".
Guardian report Labour membership down by 23,000 over last 2 months. The lack of enthusiasm for the change in a change election is quite revealing
It is ironic that the biggest surge in Tory membership in recent decades came under Hague and Howard and the biggest surge in Labour membership under Corbyn.
Ideologues who might join political parties (and aren't interested in using membership as a vehicle to become a local councillor, devolved assembly member or MP as more centrist members generally are) want purity not centrism
Interesting to note Robert Jenrick's proposal to record nationality whenever a criminal is convicted, because "We would want to apply a higher level of scrutiny to nationalities that are higher risk".
That is direct discrimination on the basis of race according to the Equality Act, because the Act explicitly says that "race" includes "nationality".
Except you could equally claim that such recording is required under legislation to ensure that protected groups are… protected.
It really would help if people could be bothered to read. Jenrick said "We would want to apply a higher level of scrutiny to nationalities that are higher risk".
A higher level of scrutiny can be argued to be required under the various pieces of equality legislation - if you have a larger number of a protected group showing up in a stat, you are often expected to have noticed, recorded it and looked at why it is happening.
Everyone on PB should be using Claude 3 opus. Whatever your job is, this tech is going to transform it
And it will probably take your job away in 5-10 years, possibly sooner than that
Those that benefit from it will be those that master it early, and get ahead of the curve, and use it while it is still best as an assistant, rather than doing everything itself (which it will do)
All these suckers taking degrees, taking in debt they will never pay off, hoping for a career when AI will decimate many of their prospective jobs and replace them who god knows what.
Far better to get an apprenticeship and a trade.
Indeed and absolutely right
I fear for my kids. I’m not completely delighted by this tech, half of me is terrified, but I’m not going to live in denial. It’s here and it’s real and it’s not going away
On the upside, we possibly live in the most interesting moment in human history. The creation of a superior and alien intelligence
I am reminded of this prescient article in the Spectator, 16 months ago, comparing the arrival of AI to the arrival of Europeans in Australia
“A few decades after the first contact art appeared in Arnhemland, the Aboriginal people were largely swept from their homelands by the economic forces and political changes brought by European settlers. But not everyone deserted these silent red canyons and bright lilied waterways. In the 2000s, the last native speaker of the local Amurdag language, Charlie Mungulda, returned to the Mount Borradaile rockfaces to paint a symbolic and final hand, a scarlet print which says ‘remember us, because we were here’. With this ritual, he signalled an end to 50,000 continuous years of Aboriginal art in West Arnhemland. Nothing has been painted in Mount Borrodaile since. Nor will it be.”
That’s pretty interesting. I know people mock you but your comments and articles do provoke thought. Far more than many others. I find peoples blasé attitude towards this surprising. The risks are plain to see.
Elon Musk reckons AGI by 2030.
I was mocked when I said “covid is coming” in late January 2020
Now I am saying: AGI is coming
For balance you were also mocked for promoting Putin as defender of Judaeo-Christian values and suggesting Truss might surprise on the upside.
That was the Liz truss in the necklace, that woman? The necklace I spotted within 2 minutes of watching the debate, when the rest of you were utterly clueless?
That Liz truss?
The actuality of PM Truss was quite a bit after your necklace burbling. I think it’s fair to say she pretty much surprised on the downside, even for those of us with low expectations.
Interesting and surprisingly sympathetic dissection in today's Guardian of the total failure that is Liz Truss
If that article is sympathetic I'd like to read an unsympathetic one. But interesting to learn that the Trumpites think she's a total fraud. And is she really at risk in South West Norfolk?
If she loses SW Norfolk the Tories are probably losing by 20 points plus nationally, its in the top 15 safest Tory seats even if we make allowance for her being a complete twit
If it goes that's Ed Davey installed as leader of the tattered remnants of the opposition, and possibly the end of the Conservative Party itself. Even if the defeat removes quite a lot of the blue rosette on a pig safe seats, we're not going to end up with a Canada 1993 wipeout. Even if they do deserve it.
Actually the idea that there might be a general reformation on the liberal right is the only good explanation of why the LDs have Davey as a leader.
My limited knowledge of the Lib Dems suggests that they're a party largely consisting of progressive activists, but which aims to advance itself by winning the support of well to do, ageing Home Counties nimbies from the Conservatives. Quite how such a party will go about trying to construct a coherent platform, if it becomes sufficiently relevant for this to be important for them again, is anyone's guess.
Actually the striking thing about LD support is how evenly spread it is across all demographics, unlike Labour or Conservative or Reform. A little less in Wales and Scotland and a bit more in the SE of England.
Not on class though, look at those numbers. The LDs on 10% with ABC1s but just 7% with C2DEs and 12% with degrees and just 8% with no degrees.
I would say that isn't a major gap by class or education, just your blinkered prejudice.
Perhaps if you canvassed in Lib Dem run Oadby and Wigston you might have a more balanced view than you do from the Home Counties.
It is, the LDs now have a higher percentage of middle class voters than Labour, the Conservatives and Reform. Even Oadby and Wigston is more rural and market town Leicestershire, it is hardly Stoke, Knowsley or Burnley is it!
Obviously you have never been there. It is suburban Leicester.
It isn't really, Oadby and Wigston are market towns not part of Leicester itself
I knew people there. They are very definitely suburbs of Leicester.
No they aren't, neither are part of Leicester district council, they are both separate market towns in their own district.
'Oadby is a town in the borough of Oadby and Wigston in Leicestershire, England. Oadby is a district centre 4 miles (6.4 km) south-east of Leicester on the A6 road.' https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oadby
'Wigston is 4 miles (6.4 km) south of the city of Leicester, at the centre of Leicestershire and the East Midlands.' https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wigston
Neither part of Leicester City Council more to the point
Everyone on PB should be using Claude 3 opus. Whatever your job is, this tech is going to transform it
And it will probably take your job away in 5-10 years, possibly sooner than that
Those that benefit from it will be those that master it early, and get ahead of the curve, and use it while it is still best as an assistant, rather than doing everything itself (which it will do)
All these suckers taking degrees, taking in debt they will never pay off, hoping for a career when AI will decimate many of their prospective jobs and replace them who god knows what.
Far better to get an apprenticeship and a trade.
Indeed and absolutely right
I fear for my kids. I’m not completely delighted by this tech, half of me is terrified, but I’m not going to live in denial. It’s here and it’s real and it’s not going away
On the upside, we possibly live in the most interesting moment in human history. The creation of a superior and alien intelligence
I am reminded of this prescient article in the Spectator, 16 months ago, comparing the arrival of AI to the arrival of Europeans in Australia
“A few decades after the first contact art appeared in Arnhemland, the Aboriginal people were largely swept from their homelands by the economic forces and political changes brought by European settlers. But not everyone deserted these silent red canyons and bright lilied waterways. In the 2000s, the last native speaker of the local Amurdag language, Charlie Mungulda, returned to the Mount Borradaile rockfaces to paint a symbolic and final hand, a scarlet print which says ‘remember us, because we were here’. With this ritual, he signalled an end to 50,000 continuous years of Aboriginal art in West Arnhemland. Nothing has been painted in Mount Borrodaile since. Nor will it be.”
That’s pretty interesting. I know people mock you but your comments and articles do provoke thought. Far more than many others. I find peoples blasé attitude towards this surprising. The risks are plain to see.
Elon Musk reckons AGI by 2030.
I was mocked when I said “covid is coming” in late January 2020
Now I am saying: AGI is coming
For balance you were also mocked for promoting Putin as defender of Judaeo-Christian values and suggesting Truss might surprise on the upside.
That was the Liz truss in the necklace, that woman? The necklace I spotted within 2 minutes of watching the debate, when the rest of you were utterly clueless?
That Liz truss?
The actuality of PM Truss was quite a bit after your necklace burbling. I think it’s fair to say she pretty much surprised on the downside, even for those of us with low expectations.
Interesting and surprisingly sympathetic dissection in today's Guardian of the total failure that is Liz Truss
If that article is sympathetic I'd like to read an unsympathetic one. But interesting to learn that the Trumpites think she's a total fraud. And is she really at risk in South West Norfolk?
If she loses SW Norfolk the Tories are probably losing by 20 points plus nationally, its in the top 15 safest Tory seats even if we make allowance for her being a complete twit
If it goes that's Ed Davey installed as leader of the tattered remnants of the opposition, and possibly the end of the Conservative Party itself. Even if the defeat removes quite a lot of the blue rosette on a pig safe seats, we're not going to end up with a Canada 1993 wipeout. Even if they do deserve it.
Actually the idea that there might be a general reformation on the liberal right is the only good explanation of why the LDs have Davey as a leader.
My limited knowledge of the Lib Dems suggests that they're a party largely consisting of progressive activists, but which aims to advance itself by winning the support of well to do, ageing Home Counties nimbies from the Conservatives. Quite how such a party will go about trying to construct a coherent platform, if it becomes sufficiently relevant for this to be important for them again, is anyone's guess.
Actually the striking thing about LD support is how evenly spread it is across all demographics, unlike Labour or Conservative or Reform. A little less in Wales and Scotland and a bit more in the SE of England.
Not on class though, look at those numbers. The LDs on 10% with ABC1s but just 7% with C2DEs and 12% with degrees and just 8% with no degrees.
I would say that isn't a major gap by class or education, just your blinkered prejudice.
Perhaps if you canvassed in Lib Dem run Oadby and Wigston you might have a more balanced view than you do from the Home Counties.
It is, the LDs now have a higher percentage of middle class voters than Labour, the Conservatives and Reform. Even Oadby and Wigston is more rural and market town Leicestershire, it is hardly Stoke, Knowsley or Burnley is it!
Obviously you have never been there. It is suburban Leicester.
It isn't really, Oadby and Wigston are market towns not part of Leicester itself
I knew people there. They are very definitely suburbs of Leicester.
No they aren't, neither are part of Leicester district council, they are both separate market towns in their own district.
'Oadby is a town in the borough of Oadby and Wigston in Leicestershire, England. Oadby is a district centre 4 miles (6.4 km) south-east of Leicester on the A6 road.' https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oadby
'Wigston is 4 miles (6.4 km) south of the city of Leicester, at the centre of Leicestershire and the East Midlands.' https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wigston
You clearly know nothing of either. If they are Market Towns, then so is Croydon or Romford.
Everyone on PB should be using Claude 3 opus. Whatever your job is, this tech is going to transform it
And it will probably take your job away in 5-10 years, possibly sooner than that
Those that benefit from it will be those that master it early, and get ahead of the curve, and use it while it is still best as an assistant, rather than doing everything itself (which it will do)
All these suckers taking degrees, taking in debt they will never pay off, hoping for a career when AI will decimate many of their prospective jobs and replace them who god knows what.
Far better to get an apprenticeship and a trade.
Indeed and absolutely right
I fear for my kids. I’m not completely delighted by this tech, half of me is terrified, but I’m not going to live in denial. It’s here and it’s real and it’s not going away
On the upside, we possibly live in the most interesting moment in human history. The creation of a superior and alien intelligence
I am reminded of this prescient article in the Spectator, 16 months ago, comparing the arrival of AI to the arrival of Europeans in Australia
“A few decades after the first contact art appeared in Arnhemland, the Aboriginal people were largely swept from their homelands by the economic forces and political changes brought by European settlers. But not everyone deserted these silent red canyons and bright lilied waterways. In the 2000s, the last native speaker of the local Amurdag language, Charlie Mungulda, returned to the Mount Borradaile rockfaces to paint a symbolic and final hand, a scarlet print which says ‘remember us, because we were here’. With this ritual, he signalled an end to 50,000 continuous years of Aboriginal art in West Arnhemland. Nothing has been painted in Mount Borrodaile since. Nor will it be.”
That’s pretty interesting. I know people mock you but your comments and articles do provoke thought. Far more than many others. I find peoples blasé attitude towards this surprising. The risks are plain to see.
Elon Musk reckons AGI by 2030.
I was mocked when I said “covid is coming” in late January 2020
Now I am saying: AGI is coming
For balance you were also mocked for promoting Putin as defender of Judaeo-Christian values and suggesting Truss might surprise on the upside.
That was the Liz truss in the necklace, that woman? The necklace I spotted within 2 minutes of watching the debate, when the rest of you were utterly clueless?
That Liz truss?
The actuality of PM Truss was quite a bit after your necklace burbling. I think it’s fair to say she pretty much surprised on the downside, even for those of us with low expectations.
Interesting and surprisingly sympathetic dissection in today's Guardian of the total failure that is Liz Truss
If that article is sympathetic I'd like to read an unsympathetic one. But interesting to learn that the Trumpites think she's a total fraud. And is she really at risk in South West Norfolk?
If she loses SW Norfolk the Tories are probably losing by 20 points plus nationally, its in the top 15 safest Tory seats even if we make allowance for her being a complete twit
If it goes that's Ed Davey installed as leader of the tattered remnants of the opposition, and possibly the end of the Conservative Party itself. Even if the defeat removes quite a lot of the blue rosette on a pig safe seats, we're not going to end up with a Canada 1993 wipeout. Even if they do deserve it.
Actually the idea that there might be a general reformation on the liberal right is the only good explanation of why the LDs have Davey as a leader.
My limited knowledge of the Lib Dems suggests that they're a party largely consisting of progressive activists, but which aims to advance itself by winning the support of well to do, ageing Home Counties nimbies from the Conservatives. Quite how such a party will go about trying to construct a coherent platform, if it becomes sufficiently relevant for this to be important for them again, is anyone's guess.
Actually the striking thing about LD support is how evenly spread it is across all demographics, unlike Labour or Conservative or Reform. A little less in Wales and Scotland and a bit more in the SE of England.
Nonetheless, the large majority of their realistic targets in England (save in the case of a total Tory implosion, in which case Labour might just sweep almost everything anyway) are in the South East. They'll be doing very well indeed to get more than three or four seats between Cambridge and the Tweed.
Yes, more snobs now vote LD than Tory and that has been the case since Brexit
What an extraordinary post!
Done on canvassing experience, go to the most expensive detached houses in the Home Counties and more likely than not the voters will be LD, certainly outside rural areas and when they are patronising with it (especially at local elections). Even if most of them still voted Tory in 2019 in the GE to keep out Corbyn now he has been replaced with Starmer many of them will vote LD without fear of Labour at general elections too
How do you know they’re ‘snobs’ though?
One for example looked at us and our rosette down his rimmed glasses, said 'I don't think so' and slammed the door.
You also only have to see some of the comments from Roger et al etc on here, the sheer contempt some diehard Remainers have for working class Leavers and the LDs have the highest percentage of diehard Remainers amongst their voters.
Nonsense, I am a lifelong Tory and I've looked down on the working classes long before Brexit.
Yet who did you vote for at the last 2 general elections? The Liberal Democrats.
I rest my case!
I am voting Tory at the next general election.
That's only because they installed Cameron as FS... 😃
After Johnson, Truss, and Raab, even that lettuce would look good in the job.
Everyone on PB should be using Claude 3 opus. Whatever your job is, this tech is going to transform it
And it will probably take your job away in 5-10 years, possibly sooner than that
Those that benefit from it will be those that master it early, and get ahead of the curve, and use it while it is still best as an assistant, rather than doing everything itself (which it will do)
All these suckers taking degrees, taking in debt they will never pay off, hoping for a career when AI will decimate many of their prospective jobs and replace them who god knows what.
Far better to get an apprenticeship and a trade.
Indeed and absolutely right
I fear for my kids. I’m not completely delighted by this tech, half of me is terrified, but I’m not going to live in denial. It’s here and it’s real and it’s not going away
On the upside, we possibly live in the most interesting moment in human history. The creation of a superior and alien intelligence
I am reminded of this prescient article in the Spectator, 16 months ago, comparing the arrival of AI to the arrival of Europeans in Australia
“A few decades after the first contact art appeared in Arnhemland, the Aboriginal people were largely swept from their homelands by the economic forces and political changes brought by European settlers. But not everyone deserted these silent red canyons and bright lilied waterways. In the 2000s, the last native speaker of the local Amurdag language, Charlie Mungulda, returned to the Mount Borradaile rockfaces to paint a symbolic and final hand, a scarlet print which says ‘remember us, because we were here’. With this ritual, he signalled an end to 50,000 continuous years of Aboriginal art in West Arnhemland. Nothing has been painted in Mount Borrodaile since. Nor will it be.”
That’s pretty interesting. I know people mock you but your comments and articles do provoke thought. Far more than many others. I find peoples blasé attitude towards this surprising. The risks are plain to see.
Elon Musk reckons AGI by 2030.
I was mocked when I said “covid is coming” in late January 2020
Now I am saying: AGI is coming
For balance you were also mocked for promoting Putin as defender of Judaeo-Christian values and suggesting Truss might surprise on the upside.
That was the Liz truss in the necklace, that woman? The necklace I spotted within 2 minutes of watching the debate, when the rest of you were utterly clueless?
That Liz truss?
The actuality of PM Truss was quite a bit after your necklace burbling. I think it’s fair to say she pretty much surprised on the downside, even for those of us with low expectations.
Interesting and surprisingly sympathetic dissection in today's Guardian of the total failure that is Liz Truss
If that article is sympathetic I'd like to read an unsympathetic one. But interesting to learn that the Trumpites think she's a total fraud. And is she really at risk in South West Norfolk?
If she loses SW Norfolk the Tories are probably losing by 20 points plus nationally, its in the top 15 safest Tory seats even if we make allowance for her being a complete twit
If it goes that's Ed Davey installed as leader of the tattered remnants of the opposition, and possibly the end of the Conservative Party itself. Even if the defeat removes quite a lot of the blue rosette on a pig safe seats, we're not going to end up with a Canada 1993 wipeout. Even if they do deserve it.
Actually the idea that there might be a general reformation on the liberal right is the only good explanation of why the LDs have Davey as a leader.
My limited knowledge of the Lib Dems suggests that they're a party largely consisting of progressive activists, but which aims to advance itself by winning the support of well to do, ageing Home Counties nimbies from the Conservatives. Quite how such a party will go about trying to construct a coherent platform, if it becomes sufficiently relevant for this to be important for them again, is anyone's guess.
Actually the striking thing about LD support is how evenly spread it is across all demographics, unlike Labour or Conservative or Reform. A little less in Wales and Scotland and a bit more in the SE of England.
Not on class though, look at those numbers. The LDs on 10% with ABC1s but just 7% with C2DEs and 12% with degrees and just 8% with no degrees.
I would say that isn't a major gap by class or education, just your blinkered prejudice.
Perhaps if you canvassed in Lib Dem run Oadby and Wigston you might have a more balanced view than you do from the Home Counties.
It is, the LDs now have a higher percentage of middle class voters than Labour, the Conservatives and Reform. Even Oadby and Wigston is more rural and market town Leicestershire, it is hardly Stoke, Knowsley or Burnley is it!
Obviously you have never been there. It is suburban Leicester.
It isn't really, Oadby and Wigston are market towns not part of Leicester itself
I knew people there. They are very definitely suburbs of Leicester.
No they aren't, neither are part of Leicester district council, they are both separate market towns in their own district.
'Oadby is a town in the borough of Oadby and Wigston in Leicestershire, England. Oadby is a district centre 4 miles (6.4 km) south-east of Leicester on the A6 road.' https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oadby
'Wigston is 4 miles (6.4 km) south of the city of Leicester, at the centre of Leicestershire and the East Midlands.' https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wigston
You clearly know nothing of either. If they are Market Towns, then so is Croydon or Romford.
They are suburbs outside the city boundaries.
Croydon or Romford elect the London Mayor and members of the London Assembly, Oadby and Wigston do not elect members of Leicester City Council, they have their own separate district council
Everyone on PB should be using Claude 3 opus. Whatever your job is, this tech is going to transform it
And it will probably take your job away in 5-10 years, possibly sooner than that
Those that benefit from it will be those that master it early, and get ahead of the curve, and use it while it is still best as an assistant, rather than doing everything itself (which it will do)
All these suckers taking degrees, taking in debt they will never pay off, hoping for a career when AI will decimate many of their prospective jobs and replace them who god knows what.
Far better to get an apprenticeship and a trade.
Indeed and absolutely right
I fear for my kids. I’m not completely delighted by this tech, half of me is terrified, but I’m not going to live in denial. It’s here and it’s real and it’s not going away
On the upside, we possibly live in the most interesting moment in human history. The creation of a superior and alien intelligence
I am reminded of this prescient article in the Spectator, 16 months ago, comparing the arrival of AI to the arrival of Europeans in Australia
“A few decades after the first contact art appeared in Arnhemland, the Aboriginal people were largely swept from their homelands by the economic forces and political changes brought by European settlers. But not everyone deserted these silent red canyons and bright lilied waterways. In the 2000s, the last native speaker of the local Amurdag language, Charlie Mungulda, returned to the Mount Borradaile rockfaces to paint a symbolic and final hand, a scarlet print which says ‘remember us, because we were here’. With this ritual, he signalled an end to 50,000 continuous years of Aboriginal art in West Arnhemland. Nothing has been painted in Mount Borrodaile since. Nor will it be.”
That’s pretty interesting. I know people mock you but your comments and articles do provoke thought. Far more than many others. I find peoples blasé attitude towards this surprising. The risks are plain to see.
Elon Musk reckons AGI by 2030.
I was mocked when I said “covid is coming” in late January 2020
Now I am saying: AGI is coming
For balance you were also mocked for promoting Putin as defender of Judaeo-Christian values and suggesting Truss might surprise on the upside.
That was the Liz truss in the necklace, that woman? The necklace I spotted within 2 minutes of watching the debate, when the rest of you were utterly clueless?
That Liz truss?
The actuality of PM Truss was quite a bit after your necklace burbling. I think it’s fair to say she pretty much surprised on the downside, even for those of us with low expectations.
Interesting and surprisingly sympathetic dissection in today's Guardian of the total failure that is Liz Truss
If that article is sympathetic I'd like to read an unsympathetic one. But interesting to learn that the Trumpites think she's a total fraud. And is she really at risk in South West Norfolk?
If she loses SW Norfolk the Tories are probably losing by 20 points plus nationally, its in the top 15 safest Tory seats even if we make allowance for her being a complete twit
If it goes that's Ed Davey installed as leader of the tattered remnants of the opposition, and possibly the end of the Conservative Party itself. Even if the defeat removes quite a lot of the blue rosette on a pig safe seats, we're not going to end up with a Canada 1993 wipeout. Even if they do deserve it.
Actually the idea that there might be a general reformation on the liberal right is the only good explanation of why the LDs have Davey as a leader.
My limited knowledge of the Lib Dems suggests that they're a party largely consisting of progressive activists, but which aims to advance itself by winning the support of well to do, ageing Home Counties nimbies from the Conservatives. Quite how such a party will go about trying to construct a coherent platform, if it becomes sufficiently relevant for this to be important for them again, is anyone's guess.
Actually the striking thing about LD support is how evenly spread it is across all demographics, unlike Labour or Conservative or Reform. A little less in Wales and Scotland and a bit more in the SE of England.
Nonetheless, the large majority of their realistic targets in England (save in the case of a total Tory implosion, in which case Labour might just sweep almost everything anyway) are in the South East. They'll be doing very well indeed to get more than three or four seats between Cambridge and the Tweed.
Yes, more snobs now vote LD than Tory and that has been the case since Brexit
What an extraordinary post!
Done on canvassing experience, go to the most expensive detached houses in the Home Counties and more likely than not the voters will be LD, certainly outside rural areas and when they are patronising with it (especially at local elections). Even if most of them still voted Tory in 2019 in the GE to keep out Corbyn now he has been replaced with Starmer many of them will vote LD without fear of Labour at general elections too
How do you know they’re ‘snobs’ though?
One for example looked at us and our rosette down his rimmed glasses, said 'I don't think so' and slammed the door.
You also only have to see some of the comments from Roger et al etc on here, the sheer contempt some diehard Remainers have for working class Leavers and the LDs have the highest percentage of diehard Remainers amongst their voters.
Nonsense, I am a lifelong Tory and I've looked down on the working classes long before Brexit.
Yet who did you vote for at the last 2 general elections? The Liberal Democrats.
I rest my case!
I am voting Tory at the next general election.
The Lib Dems thank you for your lack of support, on the grounds that you are clearly a Jonah....
I have voted in Sheffield Hallam in four general elections (1997, 2015, 2017, and 2019) and I have never voted for the winning candidate, you may have a point.
In 2001, 2005, and 2010 I have voted for the winning candidate in other constituencies.
This year, I hope to be voting for the winning candidate.
And for the avoidance of doubt, I am not referring to Sir Philip!
Everyone on PB should be using Claude 3 opus. Whatever your job is, this tech is going to transform it
And it will probably take your job away in 5-10 years, possibly sooner than that
Those that benefit from it will be those that master it early, and get ahead of the curve, and use it while it is still best as an assistant, rather than doing everything itself (which it will do)
All these suckers taking degrees, taking in debt they will never pay off, hoping for a career when AI will decimate many of their prospective jobs and replace them who god knows what.
Far better to get an apprenticeship and a trade.
Indeed and absolutely right
I fear for my kids. I’m not completely delighted by this tech, half of me is terrified, but I’m not going to live in denial. It’s here and it’s real and it’s not going away
On the upside, we possibly live in the most interesting moment in human history. The creation of a superior and alien intelligence
I am reminded of this prescient article in the Spectator, 16 months ago, comparing the arrival of AI to the arrival of Europeans in Australia
“A few decades after the first contact art appeared in Arnhemland, the Aboriginal people were largely swept from their homelands by the economic forces and political changes brought by European settlers. But not everyone deserted these silent red canyons and bright lilied waterways. In the 2000s, the last native speaker of the local Amurdag language, Charlie Mungulda, returned to the Mount Borradaile rockfaces to paint a symbolic and final hand, a scarlet print which says ‘remember us, because we were here’. With this ritual, he signalled an end to 50,000 continuous years of Aboriginal art in West Arnhemland. Nothing has been painted in Mount Borrodaile since. Nor will it be.”
That’s pretty interesting. I know people mock you but your comments and articles do provoke thought. Far more than many others. I find peoples blasé attitude towards this surprising. The risks are plain to see.
Elon Musk reckons AGI by 2030.
I was mocked when I said “covid is coming” in late January 2020
Now I am saying: AGI is coming
For balance you were also mocked for promoting Putin as defender of Judaeo-Christian values and suggesting Truss might surprise on the upside.
That was the Liz truss in the necklace, that woman? The necklace I spotted within 2 minutes of watching the debate, when the rest of you were utterly clueless?
That Liz truss?
The actuality of PM Truss was quite a bit after your necklace burbling. I think it’s fair to say she pretty much surprised on the downside, even for those of us with low expectations.
Interesting and surprisingly sympathetic dissection in today's Guardian of the total failure that is Liz Truss
If that article is sympathetic I'd like to read an unsympathetic one. But interesting to learn that the Trumpites think she's a total fraud. And is she really at risk in South West Norfolk?
If she loses SW Norfolk the Tories are probably losing by 20 points plus nationally, its in the top 15 safest Tory seats even if we make allowance for her being a complete twit
If it goes that's Ed Davey installed as leader of the tattered remnants of the opposition, and possibly the end of the Conservative Party itself. Even if the defeat removes quite a lot of the blue rosette on a pig safe seats, we're not going to end up with a Canada 1993 wipeout. Even if they do deserve it.
Actually the idea that there might be a general reformation on the liberal right is the only good explanation of why the LDs have Davey as a leader.
My limited knowledge of the Lib Dems suggests that they're a party largely consisting of progressive activists, but which aims to advance itself by winning the support of well to do, ageing Home Counties nimbies from the Conservatives. Quite how such a party will go about trying to construct a coherent platform, if it becomes sufficiently relevant for this to be important for them again, is anyone's guess.
Actually the striking thing about LD support is how evenly spread it is across all demographics, unlike Labour or Conservative or Reform. A little less in Wales and Scotland and a bit more in the SE of England.
Nonetheless, the large majority of their realistic targets in England (save in the case of a total Tory implosion, in which case Labour might just sweep almost everything anyway) are in the South East. They'll be doing very well indeed to get more than three or four seats between Cambridge and the Tweed.
Yes, more snobs now vote LD than Tory and that has been the case since Brexit
What an extraordinary post!
Done on canvassing experience, go to the most expensive detached houses in the Home Counties and more likely than not the voters will be LD, certainly outside rural areas and when they are patronising with it (especially at local elections). Even if most of them still voted Tory in 2019 in the GE to keep out Corbyn now he has been replaced with Starmer many of them will vote LD without fear of Labour at general elections too
How do you know they’re ‘snobs’ though?
One for example looked at us and our rosette down his rimmed glasses, said 'I don't think so' and slammed the door.
You also only have to see some of the comments from Roger et al etc on here, the sheer contempt some diehard Remainers have for working class Leavers and the LDs have the highest percentage of diehard Remainers amongst their voters.
Nonsense, I am a lifelong Tory and I've looked down on the working classes long before Brexit.
Yet who did you vote for at the last 2 general elections? The Liberal Democrats.
I rest my case!
I am voting Tory at the next general election.
Sunak has one convert!
Appointing David Cameron as Foreign Secretary was what clinched my vote.
David Cameron is the only minister in this sorry government making any serious effort at all.
He's the only one certain of still being a parliamentarian after the election.
Everyone on PB should be using Claude 3 opus. Whatever your job is, this tech is going to transform it
And it will probably take your job away in 5-10 years, possibly sooner than that
Those that benefit from it will be those that master it early, and get ahead of the curve, and use it while it is still best as an assistant, rather than doing everything itself (which it will do)
All these suckers taking degrees, taking in debt they will never pay off, hoping for a career when AI will decimate many of their prospective jobs and replace them who god knows what.
Far better to get an apprenticeship and a trade.
Indeed and absolutely right
I fear for my kids. I’m not completely delighted by this tech, half of me is terrified, but I’m not going to live in denial. It’s here and it’s real and it’s not going away
On the upside, we possibly live in the most interesting moment in human history. The creation of a superior and alien intelligence
I am reminded of this prescient article in the Spectator, 16 months ago, comparing the arrival of AI to the arrival of Europeans in Australia
“A few decades after the first contact art appeared in Arnhemland, the Aboriginal people were largely swept from their homelands by the economic forces and political changes brought by European settlers. But not everyone deserted these silent red canyons and bright lilied waterways. In the 2000s, the last native speaker of the local Amurdag language, Charlie Mungulda, returned to the Mount Borradaile rockfaces to paint a symbolic and final hand, a scarlet print which says ‘remember us, because we were here’. With this ritual, he signalled an end to 50,000 continuous years of Aboriginal art in West Arnhemland. Nothing has been painted in Mount Borrodaile since. Nor will it be.”
That’s pretty interesting. I know people mock you but your comments and articles do provoke thought. Far more than many others. I find peoples blasé attitude towards this surprising. The risks are plain to see.
Elon Musk reckons AGI by 2030.
I was mocked when I said “covid is coming” in late January 2020
Now I am saying: AGI is coming
For balance you were also mocked for promoting Putin as defender of Judaeo-Christian values and suggesting Truss might surprise on the upside.
That was the Liz truss in the necklace, that woman? The necklace I spotted within 2 minutes of watching the debate, when the rest of you were utterly clueless?
That Liz truss?
The actuality of PM Truss was quite a bit after your necklace burbling. I think it’s fair to say she pretty much surprised on the downside, even for those of us with low expectations.
Interesting and surprisingly sympathetic dissection in today's Guardian of the total failure that is Liz Truss
If that article is sympathetic I'd like to read an unsympathetic one. But interesting to learn that the Trumpites think she's a total fraud. And is she really at risk in South West Norfolk?
If she loses SW Norfolk the Tories are probably losing by 20 points plus nationally, its in the top 15 safest Tory seats even if we make allowance for her being a complete twit
If it goes that's Ed Davey installed as leader of the tattered remnants of the opposition, and possibly the end of the Conservative Party itself. Even if the defeat removes quite a lot of the blue rosette on a pig safe seats, we're not going to end up with a Canada 1993 wipeout. Even if they do deserve it.
Actually the idea that there might be a general reformation on the liberal right is the only good explanation of why the LDs have Davey as a leader.
My limited knowledge of the Lib Dems suggests that they're a party largely consisting of progressive activists, but which aims to advance itself by winning the support of well to do, ageing Home Counties nimbies from the Conservatives. Quite how such a party will go about trying to construct a coherent platform, if it becomes sufficiently relevant for this to be important for them again, is anyone's guess.
Actually the striking thing about LD support is how evenly spread it is across all demographics, unlike Labour or Conservative or Reform. A little less in Wales and Scotland and a bit more in the SE of England.
Not on class though, look at those numbers. The LDs on 10% with ABC1s but just 7% with C2DEs and 12% with degrees and just 8% with no degrees.
I would say that isn't a major gap by class or education, just your blinkered prejudice.
Perhaps if you canvassed in Lib Dem run Oadby and Wigston you might have a more balanced view than you do from the Home Counties.
It is, the LDs now have a higher percentage of middle class voters than Labour, the Conservatives and Reform. Even Oadby and Wigston is more rural and market town Leicestershire, it is hardly Stoke, Knowsley or Burnley is it!
Obviously you have never been there. It is suburban Leicester.
It isn't really, Oadby and Wigston are market towns not part of Leicester itself
I knew people there. They are very definitely suburbs of Leicester.
No they aren't, neither are part of Leicester district council, they are both separate market towns in their own district.
'Oadby is a town in the borough of Oadby and Wigston in Leicestershire, England. Oadby is a district centre 4 miles (6.4 km) south-east of Leicester on the A6 road.' https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oadby
'Wigston is 4 miles (6.4 km) south of the city of Leicester, at the centre of Leicestershire and the East Midlands.' https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wigston
You clearly know nothing of either. If they are Market Towns, then so is Croydon or Romford.
They are suburbs outside the city boundaries.
Careful.
If you say "Romford is a market town" three times, you will summon Andrew Rosindell, and you don't want that.
Everyone on PB should be using Claude 3 opus. Whatever your job is, this tech is going to transform it
And it will probably take your job away in 5-10 years, possibly sooner than that
Those that benefit from it will be those that master it early, and get ahead of the curve, and use it while it is still best as an assistant, rather than doing everything itself (which it will do)
All these suckers taking degrees, taking in debt they will never pay off, hoping for a career when AI will decimate many of their prospective jobs and replace them who god knows what.
Far better to get an apprenticeship and a trade.
Indeed and absolutely right
I fear for my kids. I’m not completely delighted by this tech, half of me is terrified, but I’m not going to live in denial. It’s here and it’s real and it’s not going away
On the upside, we possibly live in the most interesting moment in human history. The creation of a superior and alien intelligence
I am reminded of this prescient article in the Spectator, 16 months ago, comparing the arrival of AI to the arrival of Europeans in Australia
“A few decades after the first contact art appeared in Arnhemland, the Aboriginal people were largely swept from their homelands by the economic forces and political changes brought by European settlers. But not everyone deserted these silent red canyons and bright lilied waterways. In the 2000s, the last native speaker of the local Amurdag language, Charlie Mungulda, returned to the Mount Borradaile rockfaces to paint a symbolic and final hand, a scarlet print which says ‘remember us, because we were here’. With this ritual, he signalled an end to 50,000 continuous years of Aboriginal art in West Arnhemland. Nothing has been painted in Mount Borrodaile since. Nor will it be.”
That’s pretty interesting. I know people mock you but your comments and articles do provoke thought. Far more than many others. I find peoples blasé attitude towards this surprising. The risks are plain to see.
Elon Musk reckons AGI by 2030.
I was mocked when I said “covid is coming” in late January 2020
Now I am saying: AGI is coming
For balance you were also mocked for promoting Putin as defender of Judaeo-Christian values and suggesting Truss might surprise on the upside.
That was the Liz truss in the necklace, that woman? The necklace I spotted within 2 minutes of watching the debate, when the rest of you were utterly clueless?
That Liz truss?
The actuality of PM Truss was quite a bit after your necklace burbling. I think it’s fair to say she pretty much surprised on the downside, even for those of us with low expectations.
Interesting and surprisingly sympathetic dissection in today's Guardian of the total failure that is Liz Truss
If that article is sympathetic I'd like to read an unsympathetic one. But interesting to learn that the Trumpites think she's a total fraud. And is she really at risk in South West Norfolk?
If she loses SW Norfolk the Tories are probably losing by 20 points plus nationally, its in the top 15 safest Tory seats even if we make allowance for her being a complete twit
If it goes that's Ed Davey installed as leader of the tattered remnants of the opposition, and possibly the end of the Conservative Party itself. Even if the defeat removes quite a lot of the blue rosette on a pig safe seats, we're not going to end up with a Canada 1993 wipeout. Even if they do deserve it.
Actually the idea that there might be a general reformation on the liberal right is the only good explanation of why the LDs have Davey as a leader.
My limited knowledge of the Lib Dems suggests that they're a party largely consisting of progressive activists, but which aims to advance itself by winning the support of well to do, ageing Home Counties nimbies from the Conservatives. Quite how such a party will go about trying to construct a coherent platform, if it becomes sufficiently relevant for this to be important for them again, is anyone's guess.
Actually the striking thing about LD support is how evenly spread it is across all demographics, unlike Labour or Conservative or Reform. A little less in Wales and Scotland and a bit more in the SE of England.
Nonetheless, the large majority of their realistic targets in England (save in the case of a total Tory implosion, in which case Labour might just sweep almost everything anyway) are in the South East. They'll be doing very well indeed to get more than three or four seats between Cambridge and the Tweed.
Yes, more snobs now vote LD than Tory and that has been the case since Brexit
What an extraordinary post!
Done on canvassing experience, go to the most expensive detached houses in the Home Counties and more likely than not the voters will be LD, certainly outside rural areas and when they are patronising with it (especially at local elections). Even if most of them still voted Tory in 2019 in the GE to keep out Corbyn now he has been replaced with Starmer many of them will vote LD without fear of Labour at general elections too
How do you know they’re ‘snobs’ though?
One for example looked at us and our rosette down his rimmed glasses, said 'I don't think so' and slammed the door.
You also only have to see some of the comments from Roger et al etc on here, the sheer contempt some diehard Remainers have for working class Leavers and the LDs have the highest percentage of diehard Remainers amongst their voters.
Nonsense, I am a lifelong Tory and I've looked down on the working classes long before Brexit.
Yet who did you vote for at the last 2 general elections? The Liberal Democrats.
I rest my case!
I am voting Tory at the next general election.
Sunak has one convert!
Appointing David Cameron as Foreign Secretary was what clinched my vote.
David Cameron is the only minister in this sorry government making any serious effort at all.
He's the only one certain of still being a parliamentarian after the election.
At least for a short while.
Serious reform of the Lords would be an easy win for Starmer after Johnson's antics.
Interesting to note Robert Jenrick's proposal to record nationality whenever a criminal is convicted, because "We would want to apply a higher level of scrutiny to nationalities that are higher risk".
That is direct discrimination on the basis of race according to the Equality Act, because the Act explicitly says that "race" includes "nationality".
Except you could equally claim that such recording is required under legislation to ensure that protected groups are… protected.
Hard not to hear that "protected" without thinking of Ronnie and Reggie. If only they had moved to Romford...
Bit like the Respect party. I have trouble not making a gang sign, every time I hear the name.
Aretha Frankin's on the phone. She's singing some letters... 😃
Everyone on PB should be using Claude 3 opus. Whatever your job is, this tech is going to transform it
And it will probably take your job away in 5-10 years, possibly sooner than that
Those that benefit from it will be those that master it early, and get ahead of the curve, and use it while it is still best as an assistant, rather than doing everything itself (which it will do)
All these suckers taking degrees, taking in debt they will never pay off, hoping for a career when AI will decimate many of their prospective jobs and replace them who god knows what.
Far better to get an apprenticeship and a trade.
Indeed and absolutely right
I fear for my kids. I’m not completely delighted by this tech, half of me is terrified, but I’m not going to live in denial. It’s here and it’s real and it’s not going away
On the upside, we possibly live in the most interesting moment in human history. The creation of a superior and alien intelligence
I am reminded of this prescient article in the Spectator, 16 months ago, comparing the arrival of AI to the arrival of Europeans in Australia
“A few decades after the first contact art appeared in Arnhemland, the Aboriginal people were largely swept from their homelands by the economic forces and political changes brought by European settlers. But not everyone deserted these silent red canyons and bright lilied waterways. In the 2000s, the last native speaker of the local Amurdag language, Charlie Mungulda, returned to the Mount Borradaile rockfaces to paint a symbolic and final hand, a scarlet print which says ‘remember us, because we were here’. With this ritual, he signalled an end to 50,000 continuous years of Aboriginal art in West Arnhemland. Nothing has been painted in Mount Borrodaile since. Nor will it be.”
That’s pretty interesting. I know people mock you but your comments and articles do provoke thought. Far more than many others. I find peoples blasé attitude towards this surprising. The risks are plain to see.
Elon Musk reckons AGI by 2030.
I was mocked when I said “covid is coming” in late January 2020
Now I am saying: AGI is coming
For balance you were also mocked for promoting Putin as defender of Judaeo-Christian values and suggesting Truss might surprise on the upside.
That was the Liz truss in the necklace, that woman? The necklace I spotted within 2 minutes of watching the debate, when the rest of you were utterly clueless?
That Liz truss?
The actuality of PM Truss was quite a bit after your necklace burbling. I think it’s fair to say she pretty much surprised on the downside, even for those of us with low expectations.
Interesting and surprisingly sympathetic dissection in today's Guardian of the total failure that is Liz Truss
If that article is sympathetic I'd like to read an unsympathetic one. But interesting to learn that the Trumpites think she's a total fraud. And is she really at risk in South West Norfolk?
If she loses SW Norfolk the Tories are probably losing by 20 points plus nationally, its in the top 15 safest Tory seats even if we make allowance for her being a complete twit
If it goes that's Ed Davey installed as leader of the tattered remnants of the opposition, and possibly the end of the Conservative Party itself. Even if the defeat removes quite a lot of the blue rosette on a pig safe seats, we're not going to end up with a Canada 1993 wipeout. Even if they do deserve it.
Actually the idea that there might be a general reformation on the liberal right is the only good explanation of why the LDs have Davey as a leader.
My limited knowledge of the Lib Dems suggests that they're a party largely consisting of progressive activists, but which aims to advance itself by winning the support of well to do, ageing Home Counties nimbies from the Conservatives. Quite how such a party will go about trying to construct a coherent platform, if it becomes sufficiently relevant for this to be important for them again, is anyone's guess.
Actually the striking thing about LD support is how evenly spread it is across all demographics, unlike Labour or Conservative or Reform. A little less in Wales and Scotland and a bit more in the SE of England.
Nonetheless, the large majority of their realistic targets in England (save in the case of a total Tory implosion, in which case Labour might just sweep almost everything anyway) are in the South East. They'll be doing very well indeed to get more than three or four seats between Cambridge and the Tweed.
Yes, more snobs now vote LD than Tory and that has been the case since Brexit
What an extraordinary post!
Done on canvassing experience, go to the most expensive detached houses in the Home Counties and more likely than not the voters will be LD, certainly outside rural areas and when they are patronising with it (especially at local elections). Even if most of them still voted Tory in 2019 in the GE to keep out Corbyn now he has been replaced with Starmer many of them will vote LD without fear of Labour at general elections too
How do you know they’re ‘snobs’ though?
One for example looked at us and our rosettes down his rimmed glasses, said 'I don't think so' and slammed the door.
You also only have to see some of the comments from Roger et al etc on here, the sheer contempt some diehard Remainers have for working class Leavers and the LDs have the highest percentage of diehard Remainers amongst their voters.
You are a loud and proud elitist so was that an orange rosette you were wearing? You don't strike me as an advocate for the party of the ill-educated workers.
HY appears to mistake contempt for his poundshop party and government for snobbery with regard to the working classes, without any justification. The two are entirely different.
If the Tories come canvassing and I merely say “I don’t think so” and close the door, they should count themselves lucky that they caught me in such a good mood.
Interesting to note Robert Jenrick's proposal to record nationality whenever a criminal is convicted, because "We would want to apply a higher level of scrutiny to nationalities that are higher risk".
That is direct discrimination on the basis of race according to the Equality Act, because the Act explicitly says that "race" includes "nationality".
Except you could equally claim that such recording is required under legislation to ensure that protected groups are… protected.
Hard not to hear that "protected" without thinking of Ronnie and Reggie. If only they had moved to Romford...
Bit like the Respect party. I have trouble not making a gang sign, every time I hear the name.
Aretha Frankin's on the phone. She's singing some letters... 😃
Respect are wannabe thugs. Aretha Franklin was a lady.
Everyone on PB should be using Claude 3 opus. Whatever your job is, this tech is going to transform it
And it will probably take your job away in 5-10 years, possibly sooner than that
Those that benefit from it will be those that master it early, and get ahead of the curve, and use it while it is still best as an assistant, rather than doing everything itself (which it will do)
All these suckers taking degrees, taking in debt they will never pay off, hoping for a career when AI will decimate many of their prospective jobs and replace them who god knows what.
Far better to get an apprenticeship and a trade.
Indeed and absolutely right
I fear for my kids. I’m not completely delighted by this tech, half of me is terrified, but I’m not going to live in denial. It’s here and it’s real and it’s not going away
On the upside, we possibly live in the most interesting moment in human history. The creation of a superior and alien intelligence
I am reminded of this prescient article in the Spectator, 16 months ago, comparing the arrival of AI to the arrival of Europeans in Australia
“A few decades after the first contact art appeared in Arnhemland, the Aboriginal people were largely swept from their homelands by the economic forces and political changes brought by European settlers. But not everyone deserted these silent red canyons and bright lilied waterways. In the 2000s, the last native speaker of the local Amurdag language, Charlie Mungulda, returned to the Mount Borradaile rockfaces to paint a symbolic and final hand, a scarlet print which says ‘remember us, because we were here’. With this ritual, he signalled an end to 50,000 continuous years of Aboriginal art in West Arnhemland. Nothing has been painted in Mount Borrodaile since. Nor will it be.”
That’s pretty interesting. I know people mock you but your comments and articles do provoke thought. Far more than many others. I find peoples blasé attitude towards this surprising. The risks are plain to see.
Elon Musk reckons AGI by 2030.
I was mocked when I said “covid is coming” in late January 2020
Now I am saying: AGI is coming
For balance you were also mocked for promoting Putin as defender of Judaeo-Christian values and suggesting Truss might surprise on the upside.
That was the Liz truss in the necklace, that woman? The necklace I spotted within 2 minutes of watching the debate, when the rest of you were utterly clueless?
That Liz truss?
The actuality of PM Truss was quite a bit after your necklace burbling. I think it’s fair to say she pretty much surprised on the downside, even for those of us with low expectations.
Interesting and surprisingly sympathetic dissection in today's Guardian of the total failure that is Liz Truss
If that article is sympathetic I'd like to read an unsympathetic one. But interesting to learn that the Trumpites think she's a total fraud. And is she really at risk in South West Norfolk?
If she loses SW Norfolk the Tories are probably losing by 20 points plus nationally, its in the top 15 safest Tory seats even if we make allowance for her being a complete twit
If it goes that's Ed Davey installed as leader of the tattered remnants of the opposition, and possibly the end of the Conservative Party itself. Even if the defeat removes quite a lot of the blue rosette on a pig safe seats, we're not going to end up with a Canada 1993 wipeout. Even if they do deserve it.
Actually the idea that there might be a general reformation on the liberal right is the only good explanation of why the LDs have Davey as a leader.
My limited knowledge of the Lib Dems suggests that they're a party largely consisting of progressive activists, but which aims to advance itself by winning the support of well to do, ageing Home Counties nimbies from the Conservatives. Quite how such a party will go about trying to construct a coherent platform, if it becomes sufficiently relevant for this to be important for them again, is anyone's guess.
Actually the striking thing about LD support is how evenly spread it is across all demographics, unlike Labour or Conservative or Reform. A little less in Wales and Scotland and a bit more in the SE of England.
Nonetheless, the large majority of their realistic targets in England (save in the case of a total Tory implosion, in which case Labour might just sweep almost everything anyway) are in the South East. They'll be doing very well indeed to get more than three or four seats between Cambridge and the Tweed.
Yes, more snobs now vote LD than Tory and that has been the case since Brexit
What an extraordinary post!
Done on canvassing experience, go to the most expensive detached houses in the Home Counties and more likely than not the voters will be LD, certainly outside rural areas and when they are patronising with it (especially at local elections). Even if most of them still voted Tory in 2019 in the GE to keep out Corbyn now he has been replaced with Starmer many of them will vote LD without fear of Labour at general elections too
How do you know they’re ‘snobs’ though?
One for example looked at us and our rosette down his rimmed glasses, said 'I don't think so' and slammed the door.
You also only have to see some of the comments from Roger et al etc on here, the sheer contempt some diehard Remainers have for working class Leavers and the LDs have the highest percentage of diehard Remainers amongst their voters.
Nonsense, I am a lifelong Tory and I've looked down on the working classes long before Brexit.
Yet who did you vote for at the last 2 general elections? The Liberal Democrats.
I rest my case!
I am voting Tory at the next general election.
Sunak has one convert!
Appointing David Cameron as Foreign Secretary was what clinched my vote.
David Cameron is the only minister in this sorry government making any serious effort at all.
He's the only one certain of still being a parliamentarian after the election.
At least for a short while.
Serious reform of the Lords would be an easy win for Starmer after Johnson's antics.
It would, but as with a lot of Starmer's policies it's been cancelled/watered down
Everyone on PB should be using Claude 3 opus. Whatever your job is, this tech is going to transform it
And it will probably take your job away in 5-10 years, possibly sooner than that
Those that benefit from it will be those that master it early, and get ahead of the curve, and use it while it is still best as an assistant, rather than doing everything itself (which it will do)
All these suckers taking degrees, taking in debt they will never pay off, hoping for a career when AI will decimate many of their prospective jobs and replace them who god knows what.
Far better to get an apprenticeship and a trade.
Indeed and absolutely right
I fear for my kids. I’m not completely delighted by this tech, half of me is terrified, but I’m not going to live in denial. It’s here and it’s real and it’s not going away
On the upside, we possibly live in the most interesting moment in human history. The creation of a superior and alien intelligence
I am reminded of this prescient article in the Spectator, 16 months ago, comparing the arrival of AI to the arrival of Europeans in Australia
“A few decades after the first contact art appeared in Arnhemland, the Aboriginal people were largely swept from their homelands by the economic forces and political changes brought by European settlers. But not everyone deserted these silent red canyons and bright lilied waterways. In the 2000s, the last native speaker of the local Amurdag language, Charlie Mungulda, returned to the Mount Borradaile rockfaces to paint a symbolic and final hand, a scarlet print which says ‘remember us, because we were here’. With this ritual, he signalled an end to 50,000 continuous years of Aboriginal art in West Arnhemland. Nothing has been painted in Mount Borrodaile since. Nor will it be.”
That’s pretty interesting. I know people mock you but your comments and articles do provoke thought. Far more than many others. I find peoples blasé attitude towards this surprising. The risks are plain to see.
Elon Musk reckons AGI by 2030.
I was mocked when I said “covid is coming” in late January 2020
Now I am saying: AGI is coming
For balance you were also mocked for promoting Putin as defender of Judaeo-Christian values and suggesting Truss might surprise on the upside.
That was the Liz truss in the necklace, that woman? The necklace I spotted within 2 minutes of watching the debate, when the rest of you were utterly clueless?
That Liz truss?
The actuality of PM Truss was quite a bit after your necklace burbling. I think it’s fair to say she pretty much surprised on the downside, even for those of us with low expectations.
Interesting and surprisingly sympathetic dissection in today's Guardian of the total failure that is Liz Truss
If that article is sympathetic I'd like to read an unsympathetic one. But interesting to learn that the Trumpites think she's a total fraud. And is she really at risk in South West Norfolk?
If she loses SW Norfolk the Tories are probably losing by 20 points plus nationally, its in the top 15 safest Tory seats even if we make allowance for her being a complete twit
If it goes that's Ed Davey installed as leader of the tattered remnants of the opposition, and possibly the end of the Conservative Party itself. Even if the defeat removes quite a lot of the blue rosette on a pig safe seats, we're not going to end up with a Canada 1993 wipeout. Even if they do deserve it.
Actually the idea that there might be a general reformation on the liberal right is the only good explanation of why the LDs have Davey as a leader.
My limited knowledge of the Lib Dems suggests that they're a party largely consisting of progressive activists, but which aims to advance itself by winning the support of well to do, ageing Home Counties nimbies from the Conservatives. Quite how such a party will go about trying to construct a coherent platform, if it becomes sufficiently relevant for this to be important for them again, is anyone's guess.
Actually the striking thing about LD support is how evenly spread it is across all demographics, unlike Labour or Conservative or Reform. A little less in Wales and Scotland and a bit more in the SE of England.
Nonetheless, the large majority of their realistic targets in England (save in the case of a total Tory implosion, in which case Labour might just sweep almost everything anyway) are in the South East. They'll be doing very well indeed to get more than three or four seats between Cambridge and the Tweed.
Yes, more snobs now vote LD than Tory and that has been the case since Brexit
What an extraordinary post!
Done on canvassing experience, go to the most expensive detached houses in the Home Counties and more likely than not the voters will be LD, certainly outside rural areas and when they are patronising with it (especially at local elections). Even if most of them still voted Tory in 2019 in the GE to keep out Corbyn now he has been replaced with Starmer many of them will vote LD without fear of Labour at general elections too
How do you know they’re ‘snobs’ though?
One for example looked at us and our rosettes down his rimmed glasses, said 'I don't think so' and slammed the door.
You also only have to see some of the comments from Roger et al etc on here, the sheer contempt some diehard Remainers have for working class Leavers and the LDs have the highest percentage of diehard Remainers amongst their voters.
You are a loud and proud elitist so was that an orange rosette you were wearing? You don't strike me as an advocate for the party of the ill-educated workers.
HY appears to mistake contempt for his poundshop party and government for snobbery with regard to the working classes, without any justification. The two are entirely different.
If the Tories come canvassing and I merely say “I don’t think so” and close the door, they should count themselves lucky that they caught me in such a good mood.
Yes - @Woger’ism is fortunately a fading thing. It’s just a variant on “The Head Count Are Revolting, aren’t I Posh for thinking so?”.
As you know, I think the current government has its priorities wrong. One high priority thing is how to ease the passing of the Boomer generation because over the next decade or so millions of them will die and we owe it to them to hold their hands as they go into the dark. Arsing around with "you know we could just kill them, right?" is just wrong.
Interesting to note Robert Jenrick's proposal to record nationality whenever a criminal is convicted, because "We would want to apply a higher level of scrutiny to nationalities that are higher risk".
That is direct discrimination on the basis of race according to the Equality Act, because the Act explicitly says that "race" includes "nationality".
Except you could equally claim that such recording is required under legislation to ensure that protected groups are… protected.
It really would help if people could be bothered to read. Jenrick said "We would want to apply a higher level of scrutiny to nationalities that are higher risk".
But the only criterion that matters to the Conservatives is how much money they have.....
Everyone on PB should be using Claude 3 opus. Whatever your job is, this tech is going to transform it
And it will probably take your job away in 5-10 years, possibly sooner than that
Those that benefit from it will be those that master it early, and get ahead of the curve, and use it while it is still best as an assistant, rather than doing everything itself (which it will do)
All these suckers taking degrees, taking in debt they will never pay off, hoping for a career when AI will decimate many of their prospective jobs and replace them who god knows what.
Far better to get an apprenticeship and a trade.
Indeed and absolutely right
I fear for my kids. I’m not completely delighted by this tech, half of me is terrified, but I’m not going to live in denial. It’s here and it’s real and it’s not going away
On the upside, we possibly live in the most interesting moment in human history. The creation of a superior and alien intelligence
I am reminded of this prescient article in the Spectator, 16 months ago, comparing the arrival of AI to the arrival of Europeans in Australia
“A few decades after the first contact art appeared in Arnhemland, the Aboriginal people were largely swept from their homelands by the economic forces and political changes brought by European settlers. But not everyone deserted these silent red canyons and bright lilied waterways. In the 2000s, the last native speaker of the local Amurdag language, Charlie Mungulda, returned to the Mount Borradaile rockfaces to paint a symbolic and final hand, a scarlet print which says ‘remember us, because we were here’. With this ritual, he signalled an end to 50,000 continuous years of Aboriginal art in West Arnhemland. Nothing has been painted in Mount Borrodaile since. Nor will it be.”
That’s pretty interesting. I know people mock you but your comments and articles do provoke thought. Far more than many others. I find peoples blasé attitude towards this surprising. The risks are plain to see.
Elon Musk reckons AGI by 2030.
I was mocked when I said “covid is coming” in late January 2020
Now I am saying: AGI is coming
For balance you were also mocked for promoting Putin as defender of Judaeo-Christian values and suggesting Truss might surprise on the upside.
That was the Liz truss in the necklace, that woman? The necklace I spotted within 2 minutes of watching the debate, when the rest of you were utterly clueless?
That Liz truss?
The actuality of PM Truss was quite a bit after your necklace burbling. I think it’s fair to say she pretty much surprised on the downside, even for those of us with low expectations.
Interesting and surprisingly sympathetic dissection in today's Guardian of the total failure that is Liz Truss
If that article is sympathetic I'd like to read an unsympathetic one. But interesting to learn that the Trumpites think she's a total fraud. And is she really at risk in South West Norfolk?
If she loses SW Norfolk the Tories are probably losing by 20 points plus nationally, its in the top 15 safest Tory seats even if we make allowance for her being a complete twit
If it goes that's Ed Davey installed as leader of the tattered remnants of the opposition, and possibly the end of the Conservative Party itself. Even if the defeat removes quite a lot of the blue rosette on a pig safe seats, we're not going to end up with a Canada 1993 wipeout. Even if they do deserve it.
Actually the idea that there might be a general reformation on the liberal right is the only good explanation of why the LDs have Davey as a leader.
Unfortunately for them the ceiling for centre right Davey/Clegg Liberalism is about 10-15%, the only way the LDs get over 20% is with social democracy, Charles Kennedy or Roy Jenkins style (or as Clegg pretended to back in 2010)
Sorry to respond quite late (been in the garden) but I thought @hyufd's post was an interesting one and worth responding to. I disagree with some of it, but not completely.
Firstly I agree we need a better leader like @hyufd mentions and I can't see one in the current line up. I also agree that the LDs are made up of 2 groups. They are the Social Democrats and the Liberals (often now referred to as Orange Bookers) I am one of the latter. I also agree that Liberals like me have limited appeal to the electorate. In fact I would put it at even a lower figure than @hyufd does.
However where I disagree is with the perception of the electorates view of the LDs, because I believe most people think of the LDs as being in the Centre and Social Democratic regardless of whether Social Democracy or Liberalism is in the ascendancy within the party.
In addition it really doesn't matter either. Unlike the Conservatives and Labour who are both broad churches and sometimes fall out over stuff and strain at the extremities that doesn't seem to happen generally within the LDs. Both Liberals and Social Democrats get on with one another. I think that is because Liberals understand they can't just implement the radical reforms they would like and pragmatism is needed and Social Democrats are nothing if not pragmatic. Similarly Social Democrats don't object to idealism as long as it doesn't scare the children.
In general the idea that things can't get worse is one of the commonest mistakes in human history, but in this specific case I suspect that voters are correct.
Interesting to note Robert Jenrick's proposal to record nationality whenever a criminal is convicted, because "We would want to apply a higher level of scrutiny to nationalities that are higher risk".
That is direct discrimination on the basis of race according to the Equality Act, because the Act explicitly says that "race" includes "nationality".
Except you could equally claim that such recording is required under legislation to ensure that protected groups are… protected.
Hard not to hear that "protected" without thinking of Ronnie and Reggie. If only they had moved to Romford...
Bit like the Respect party. I have trouble not making a gang sign, every time I hear the name.
Aretha Frankin's on the phone. She's singing some letters... 😃
Respect are wannabe thugs. Aretha Franklin was a lady.
Respect is earned and Aretha Franklin has earned it.
Any thugs calling themselves the Respect party haven't earned the right to call themselves that. Even if they identify as that, I won't show them that r e s p e c t.
This evening I have learnt that someone from Essex knows more about Leicester than someone from Leicester.
BTW, I lived in Leicestershire for 9 years.
Still startled that (in that someone's words) 'market towns' is an accurate description of two Leicester suburbs.
A glance at Google Maps seems to make the market town description seem unlikely.
I went exploring Oadby one day years ago, mainly for the canal rather than the 1930s semis. Some fine bridges, but what I remember as much as anything is the biscuit or cake factory on what looked like some old railway land - the smell of the things pervaded the area.
Best for Britain have an MRP out from Survation Lab 468 Con 98 SNP 41 LD 22
Headline 45 26
Reform getting 7 second places
Puts the Tories just below the 100, which could well be the critical betting decision…
Just been over the results, and the problem with MRP reveals itself at the upper and lower ends The Tories get 26% nationally but over 40% in only 6 constituencies (44% in Clacton and 5 40 or 41% scores) but do not lose a single deposit and are in single figures in only 13 constituencies (including Bootle, Knowsley, Liverpool x3) Wipeout in Wales and Scotland
Interesting to note Robert Jenrick's proposal to record nationality whenever a criminal is convicted, because "We would want to apply a higher level of scrutiny to nationalities that are higher risk".
That is direct discrimination on the basis of race according to the Equality Act, because the Act explicitly says that "race" includes "nationality".
Except you could equally claim that such recording is required under legislation to ensure that protected groups are… protected.
Hard not to hear that "protected" without thinking of Ronnie and Reggie. If only they had moved to Romford...
Bit like the Respect party. I have trouble not making a gang sign, every time I hear the name.
Aretha Frankin's on the phone. She's singing some letters... 😃
Respect are wannabe thugs. Aretha Franklin was a lady.
Respect is earned and Aretha Franklin has earned it.
Any thugs calling themselves the Respect party haven't earned the right to call themselves that. Even if they identify as that, I won't show them that r e s p e c t.
In general the idea that things can't get worse is one of the commonest mistakes in human history, but in this specific case I suspect that voters are correct.
Under soviet communism there was a saying "Enjoy this year for next year will surely be worse". I think we have reached that stage in the uk.
Since the banning of discussion of AI, we have been back to traditional PB discussions, including @HYUFD dancing on the head of a pin, which I have missed recently. Much better than having to scroll past @Leon’s continual hijacking of every thread. Thank you, @rcs1000. P.S. hope your Dad is ok.
Everyone on PB should be using Claude 3 opus. Whatever your job is, this tech is going to transform it
And it will probably take your job away in 5-10 years, possibly sooner than that
Those that benefit from it will be those that master it early, and get ahead of the curve, and use it while it is still best as an assistant, rather than doing everything itself (which it will do)
All these suckers taking degrees, taking in debt they will never pay off, hoping for a career when AI will decimate many of their prospective jobs and replace them who god knows what.
Far better to get an apprenticeship and a trade.
Indeed and absolutely right
I fear for my kids. I’m not completely delighted by this tech, half of me is terrified, but I’m not going to live in denial. It’s here and it’s real and it’s not going away
On the upside, we possibly live in the most interesting moment in human history. The creation of a superior and alien intelligence
I am reminded of this prescient article in the Spectator, 16 months ago, comparing the arrival of AI to the arrival of Europeans in Australia
“A few decades after the first contact art appeared in Arnhemland, the Aboriginal people were largely swept from their homelands by the economic forces and political changes brought by European settlers. But not everyone deserted these silent red canyons and bright lilied waterways. In the 2000s, the last native speaker of the local Amurdag language, Charlie Mungulda, returned to the Mount Borradaile rockfaces to paint a symbolic and final hand, a scarlet print which says ‘remember us, because we were here’. With this ritual, he signalled an end to 50,000 continuous years of Aboriginal art in West Arnhemland. Nothing has been painted in Mount Borrodaile since. Nor will it be.”
That’s pretty interesting. I know people mock you but your comments and articles do provoke thought. Far more than many others. I find peoples blasé attitude towards this surprising. The risks are plain to see.
Elon Musk reckons AGI by 2030.
I was mocked when I said “covid is coming” in late January 2020
Now I am saying: AGI is coming
For balance you were also mocked for promoting Putin as defender of Judaeo-Christian values and suggesting Truss might surprise on the upside.
That was the Liz truss in the necklace, that woman? The necklace I spotted within 2 minutes of watching the debate, when the rest of you were utterly clueless?
That Liz truss?
The actuality of PM Truss was quite a bit after your necklace burbling. I think it’s fair to say she pretty much surprised on the downside, even for those of us with low expectations.
Interesting and surprisingly sympathetic dissection in today's Guardian of the total failure that is Liz Truss
If that article is sympathetic I'd like to read an unsympathetic one. But interesting to learn that the Trumpites think she's a total fraud. And is she really at risk in South West Norfolk?
If she loses SW Norfolk the Tories are probably losing by 20 points plus nationally, its in the top 15 safest Tory seats even if we make allowance for her being a complete twit
If it goes that's Ed Davey installed as leader of the tattered remnants of the opposition, and possibly the end of the Conservative Party itself. Even if the defeat removes quite a lot of the blue rosette on a pig safe seats, we're not going to end up with a Canada 1993 wipeout. Even if they do deserve it.
Actually the idea that there might be a general reformation on the liberal right is the only good explanation of why the LDs have Davey as a leader.
My limited knowledge of the Lib Dems suggests that they're a party largely consisting of progressive activists, but which aims to advance itself by winning the support of well to do, ageing Home Counties nimbies from the Conservatives. Quite how such a party will go about trying to construct a coherent platform, if it becomes sufficiently relevant for this to be important for them again, is anyone's guess.
Actually the striking thing about LD support is how evenly spread it is across all demographics, unlike Labour or Conservative or Reform. A little less in Wales and Scotland and a bit more in the SE of England.
Nonetheless, the large majority of their realistic targets in England (save in the case of a total Tory implosion, in which case Labour might just sweep almost everything anyway) are in the South East. They'll be doing very well indeed to get more than three or four seats between Cambridge and the Tweed.
Yes, more snobs now vote LD than Tory and that has been the case since Brexit
What an extraordinary post!
Done on canvassing experience, go to the most expensive detached houses in the Home Counties and more likely than not the voters will be LD, certainly outside rural areas and when they are patronising with it (especially at local elections). Even if most of them still voted Tory in 2019 in the GE to keep out Corbyn now he has been replaced with Starmer many of them will vote LD without fear of Labour at general elections too
How do you know they’re ‘snobs’ though?
One for example looked at us and our rosette down his rimmed glasses, said 'I don't think so' and slammed the door.
You also only have to see some of the comments from Roger et al etc on here, the sheer contempt some diehard Remainers have for working class Leavers and the LDs have the highest percentage of diehard Remainers amongst their voters.
Nonsense, I am a lifelong Tory and I've looked down on the working classes long before Brexit.
Yet who did you vote for at the last 2 general elections? The Liberal Democrats.
I rest my case!
I am voting Tory at the next general election.
Sunak has one convert!
Appointing David Cameron as Foreign Secretary was what clinched my vote.
David Cameron is the only minister in this sorry government making any serious effort at all.
What's he done that is serious. Passed me by.
Michael Gove can be decent, but I don't think Sunak is letting him be.
Hunt has done some very good work, especially on National Insurance, credit where it's due.
But the rest of the sorry bunch need to go to the Opposition benches, or out of Parliament altogether.
These guys supposedly have a job to do. Only David Cameron is even pretending to do his. I mean determining a foreign policy and then implementing it.
What has Cameron actually done? What policy changes, what implementation?
The problem with Foreign Office as a great office of state is that nowadays foreign policy is largely in the control of the PM.
The country has had the right policy on Ukraine since before either Cameron or Sunak had their positions.
I can't think of a single significant foreign policy change or implementation since Cameron came. Which is no slight on Cameron though, I'm not sure what he can do nowadays.
Cameron has invested in a lot of diplomacy, promoted the existing policy on Ukraine, floated a semi independent policy on recognising a Palestinian state, the last in coordination with the German FM, holding useful bilaterals with various governments mainly on strengthening defence ties. I believe he's in Thailand now doing just this.
It's bread and butter stuff but with political events in the UK in recent years not to the UK's strategic advantage, it makes sense to have a period of stability.
Rishi Sunak appears to have almost no interest in foreign affairs, which also helps Cameron.
Everyone on PB should be using Claude 3 opus. Whatever your job is, this tech is going to transform it
And it will probably take your job away in 5-10 years, possibly sooner than that
Those that benefit from it will be those that master it early, and get ahead of the curve, and use it while it is still best as an assistant, rather than doing everything itself (which it will do)
All these suckers taking degrees, taking in debt they will never pay off, hoping for a career when AI will decimate many of their prospective jobs and replace them who god knows what.
Far better to get an apprenticeship and a trade.
Indeed and absolutely right
I fear for my kids. I’m not completely delighted by this tech, half of me is terrified, but I’m not going to live in denial. It’s here and it’s real and it’s not going away
On the upside, we possibly live in the most interesting moment in human history. The creation of a superior and alien intelligence
I am reminded of this prescient article in the Spectator, 16 months ago, comparing the arrival of AI to the arrival of Europeans in Australia
“A few decades after the first contact art appeared in Arnhemland, the Aboriginal people were largely swept from their homelands by the economic forces and political changes brought by European settlers. But not everyone deserted these silent red canyons and bright lilied waterways. In the 2000s, the last native speaker of the local Amurdag language, Charlie Mungulda, returned to the Mount Borradaile rockfaces to paint a symbolic and final hand, a scarlet print which says ‘remember us, because we were here’. With this ritual, he signalled an end to 50,000 continuous years of Aboriginal art in West Arnhemland. Nothing has been painted in Mount Borrodaile since. Nor will it be.”
That’s pretty interesting. I know people mock you but your comments and articles do provoke thought. Far more than many others. I find peoples blasé attitude towards this surprising. The risks are plain to see.
Elon Musk reckons AGI by 2030.
I was mocked when I said “covid is coming” in late January 2020
Now I am saying: AGI is coming
For balance you were also mocked for promoting Putin as defender of Judaeo-Christian values and suggesting Truss might surprise on the upside.
That was the Liz truss in the necklace, that woman? The necklace I spotted within 2 minutes of watching the debate, when the rest of you were utterly clueless?
That Liz truss?
The actuality of PM Truss was quite a bit after your necklace burbling. I think it’s fair to say she pretty much surprised on the downside, even for those of us with low expectations.
Interesting and surprisingly sympathetic dissection in today's Guardian of the total failure that is Liz Truss
If that article is sympathetic I'd like to read an unsympathetic one. But interesting to learn that the Trumpites think she's a total fraud. And is she really at risk in South West Norfolk?
If she loses SW Norfolk the Tories are probably losing by 20 points plus nationally, its in the top 15 safest Tory seats even if we make allowance for her being a complete twit
If it goes that's Ed Davey installed as leader of the tattered remnants of the opposition, and possibly the end of the Conservative Party itself. Even if the defeat removes quite a lot of the blue rosette on a pig safe seats, we're not going to end up with a Canada 1993 wipeout. Even if they do deserve it.
Actually the idea that there might be a general reformation on the liberal right is the only good explanation of why the LDs have Davey as a leader.
My limited knowledge of the Lib Dems suggests that they're a party largely consisting of progressive activists, but which aims to advance itself by winning the support of well to do, ageing Home Counties nimbies from the Conservatives. Quite how such a party will go about trying to construct a coherent platform, if it becomes sufficiently relevant for this to be important for them again, is anyone's guess.
Actually the striking thing about LD support is how evenly spread it is across all demographics, unlike Labour or Conservative or Reform. A little less in Wales and Scotland and a bit more in the SE of England.
Nonetheless, the large majority of their realistic targets in England (save in the case of a total Tory implosion, in which case Labour might just sweep almost everything anyway) are in the South East. They'll be doing very well indeed to get more than three or four seats between Cambridge and the Tweed.
Yes, more snobs now vote LD than Tory and that has been the case since Brexit
What an extraordinary post!
Done on canvassing experience, go to the most expensive detached houses in the Home Counties and more likely than not the voters will be LD, certainly outside rural areas and when they are patronising with it (especially at local elections). Even if most of them still voted Tory in 2019 in the GE to keep out Corbyn now he has been replaced with Starmer many of them will vote LD without fear of Labour at general elections too
How do you know they’re ‘snobs’ though?
One for example looked at us and our rosette down his rimmed glasses, said 'I don't think so' and slammed the door.
You also only have to see some of the comments from Roger et al etc on here, the sheer contempt some diehard Remainers have for working class Leavers and the LDs have the highest percentage of diehard Remainers amongst their voters.
Nonsense, I am a lifelong Tory and I've looked down on the working classes long before Brexit.
Yet who did you vote for at the last 2 general elections? The Liberal Democrats.
I rest my case!
I am voting Tory at the next general election.
Sunak has one convert!
Appointing David Cameron as Foreign Secretary was what clinched my vote.
David Cameron is the only minister in this sorry government making any serious effort at all.
What's he done that is serious. Passed me by.
Michael Gove can be decent, but I don't think Sunak is letting him be.
Hunt has done some very good work, especially on National Insurance, credit where it's due.
But the rest of the sorry bunch need to go to the Opposition benches, or out of Parliament altogether.
These guys supposedly have a job to do. Only David Cameron is even pretending to do his. I mean determining a foreign policy and then implementing it.
What has Cameron actually done? What policy changes, what implementation?
The problem with Foreign Office as a great office of state is that nowadays foreign policy is largely in the control of the PM.
The country has had the right policy on Ukraine since before either Cameron or Sunak had their positions.
I can't think of a single significant foreign policy change or implementation since Cameron came. Which is no slight on Cameron though, I'm not sure what he can do nowadays.
Cameron has invested in a lot of diplomacy, promoted the existing policy on Ukraine, floated a semi independent policy on recognising a Palestinian state, the last in coordination with the German FM, holding useful bilaterals with various governments mainly on strengthening defence ties. I believe he's in Thailand now doing just this.
It's bread and butter stuff but with political events in the UK in recent years not to the UK's strategic advantage, it makes sense to have a period of stability.
Rishi Sunak appears to have almost no interest in foreign affairs, which also helps Cameron.
He doesn't seem to have much of an interest in domestic affairs either, which is good for Hunt who has been able to do the polar opposite of what Sunak did as Chancellor, thank goodness.
It's a shame he's standing in the way of Gove doing any good.
I'm not entirely sure what Sunak is interested in, besides Sunak.
He has a point. The last years of peoples lives especially in dementia care homes can be utterly miserable. And we have to ask can we afford it.
I would just comment for the vast majority in dementia care they are self funded through their assets including their home
Furthermore many are not as miserable as their family watching them suffer and suggesting they should be euthanized is simply unacceptable
Nobody should be euthanised against their will, that's called murder.
However if someone wants to control their own death, that should be their choice.
As a nation of pet lovers, we give a greater dignity in death to our pets, whom we love and don't want to suffer, than we do our vulnerable who are allowed to rot and die in misery rather than have a humane end of their own choosing.
We should show humans as much respect and love as we do our pets. Especially when those humans can vocalise their wishes.
He has a point. The last years of peoples lives especially in dementia care homes can be utterly miserable. And we have to ask can we afford it.
I would just comment for the vast majority in dementia care they are self funded through their assets including their home
Furthermore many are not as miserable as their family watching them suffer and suggesting they should be euthanized is simply unacceptable
Nobody should be euthanised against their will, that's called murder.
However if someone wants to control their own death, that should be their choice.
As a nation of pet lovers, we give a greater dignity in death to our pets, whom we love and don't want to suffer, than we do our vulnerable who are allowed to rot and die in misery rather than have a humane end of their own choosing.
We should show humans as much respect and love as we do our pets. Especially when those humans can vocalise their wishes.
I agree with you, but of course those in dementia would not be of sound mind to understand their decision and in many cases, maybe the majority, they will be under a power of attorney who can decide on health matters but not euthanasia
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Overall as you say the Tory base is much lower but the Tory base will be a bit posher than it was in 2019 with Boris, albeit still not as posh as the LD base
In 2001, 2005, and 2010 I have voted for the winning candidate in other constituencies.
Mind, I’ve only voted Conservative once, in 65 years on the electoral register, and that was in a County Council election when my father was the candidate.
He lost, which was a bit of a relief, really.
Michael Gove can be decent, but I don't think Sunak is letting him be.
Hunt has done some very good work, especially on National Insurance, credit where it's due.
But the rest of the sorry bunch need to go to the Opposition benches, or out of Parliament altogether.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2024/03/13/ukraine-russia-war-drone-strikes-oil-facilities/
Could that report be Putin disinformation? Are there any named sources? Has anyone questioned the White House about the supposed policy?
In 2017 I had an inkling that Clegg might be in trouble (I didn't in 2015) and really didn't want a Corbynite winning the seat.
Sadly he did win and in 2019 I think I would have voted Tory in 2019 if Hallam was a Lab/Con marginal because Corbyn shouldn't be anywhere near power (the same applies to Boris Johnson) but his history of always not being on the UK's side which was exemplified by the Salisbury poisonings would have got me campaigning for the Tories in 2019.
Something Corbyn and his supporters never answer, why is it the SNP, who want to break up the UK, saw the evidence provided by the government and intelligence services and concluded that the Russians were behind the Salisbury poisonings but Corbyn didn't?
Naughty brits abroad.
Again I think Gove understands the problems, and wants to do the right thing, but Sunak and the rest of the MPs pandering to the NIMBYs and property interests won't let him.
Perhaps we can call them "the blob" and they need standing up to. Gove now either can't or won't under this PM unfortunately.
The problem with Foreign Office as a great office of state is that nowadays foreign policy is largely in the control of the PM.
The country has had the right policy on Ukraine since before either Cameron or Sunak had their positions.
I can't think of a single significant foreign policy change or implementation since Cameron came. Which is no slight on Cameron though, I'm not sure what he can do nowadays.
The US/UK nuclear weapons designs are flavours of the same basic designs. It’s not so much that the Americans let us see their designs as that *US* nuclear weapons are actually joint US/UK designs. As are the U.K. weapons. U.K. and US scientists in the weapons programs have unrestricted access to the joint designs. Peanuts and all….
Oh, and there are strict agreements on both sides about not giving third parties access. To either warhead designs or Trident. Which really upsets the French, when it comes up.
Some of the related agreements on submarine technology meant that the Australia nuke submarine deal *had* to include both the US and U.K., together.
At the start of the Trident program, the idea of a joint program with the French was explored. The French offered to sell missiles - but refused to allow manufacture in the U.K. and wanted a higher price than Trident. Plus they wanted full access to Polaris and warhead design. When it was pointed out that such sharing was forbidden - the French were surprised that we would honour it…
AF was a million miles above that crap.
The law is not technically retroactive, but if someone views an old video in Scotland today, that counts as "publishing" and it's actionable.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/first-minister-joanna-cherry-police-scotland-people-snp-b2520755.html
'Oadby is a town in the borough of Oadby and Wigston in Leicestershire, England. Oadby is a district centre 4 miles (6.4 km) south-east of Leicester on the A6 road.'
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oadby
'Wigston is 4 miles (6.4 km) south of the city of Leicester, at the centre of Leicestershire and the East Midlands.'
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wigston
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Here's a summary of every focus group at the moment so you don't have to read them:
"Country is a mess"
"Tories are clowns"
"Not sure about Labour but they can't be worse"
There you go.
https://twitter.com/Samfr/status/1774088654979276976
In this we were tragically in error.
Ideologues who might join political parties (and aren't interested in using membership as a vehicle to become a local councillor, devolved assembly member or MP as more centrist members generally are) want purity not centrism
They are suburbs outside the city boundaries.
'It would have been ideal to not have so much poo in the water' 😬
https://twitter.com/MetroUK/status/1774134604548526370?t=s0HMquc7XWs3QjO_YcJ0oA&s=19
https://twitter.com/DavidMuttering/status/1774036576231653571?t=hcjvP-lbrUlLid3n1PAV8A&s=19
Say it ain't so...
And for the avoidance of doubt, I am not referring to Sir Philip!
If you say "Romford is a market town" three times, you will summon Andrew Rosindell, and you don't want that.
Serious reform of the Lords would be an easy win for Starmer after Johnson's antics.
If the Tories come canvassing and I merely say “I don’t think so” and close the door, they should count themselves lucky that they caught me in such a good mood.
https://bylinetimes.com/2023/10/16/keir-starmer-waters-down-labour-commitment-to-overhauling-unelected-house-of-lords/
BTW, I lived in Leicestershire for 9 years.
Matthew has done a Parris again. This week: killing old people.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/we-cant-afford-a-taboo-on-assisted-dying-n6p8bfg9k
SWP is the more natural home.
Firstly I agree we need a better leader like @hyufd mentions and I can't see one in the current line up. I also agree that the LDs are made up of 2 groups. They are the Social Democrats and the Liberals (often now referred to as Orange Bookers) I am one of the latter. I also agree that Liberals like me have limited appeal to the electorate. In fact I would put it at even a lower figure than @hyufd does.
However where I disagree is with the perception of the electorates view of the LDs, because I believe most people think of the LDs as being in the Centre and Social Democratic regardless of whether Social Democracy or Liberalism is in the ascendancy within the party.
In addition it really doesn't matter either. Unlike the Conservatives and Labour who are both broad churches and sometimes fall out over stuff and strain at the extremities that doesn't seem to happen generally within the LDs. Both Liberals and Social Democrats get on with one another. I think that is because Liberals understand they can't just implement the radical reforms they would like and pragmatism is needed and Social Democrats are nothing if not pragmatic. Similarly Social Democrats don't object to idealism as long as it doesn't scare the children.
Lab 468
Con 98
SNP 41
LD 22
Headline 45 26
Reform getting 7 second places
They oppose the development of zero carbon energy.
Any thugs calling themselves the Respect party haven't earned the right to call themselves that. Even if they identify as that, I won't show them that r e s p e c t.
The Tories get 26% nationally but over 40% in only 6 constituencies (44% in Clacton and 5 40 or 41% scores) but do not lose a single deposit and are in single figures in only 13 constituencies (including Bootle, Knowsley, Liverpool x3)
Wipeout in Wales and Scotland
It's bread and butter stuff but with political events in the UK in recent years not to the UK's strategic advantage, it makes sense to have a period of stability.
Rishi Sunak appears to have almost no interest in foreign affairs, which also helps Cameron.
Furthermore many are not as miserable as their family watching them suffer and suggesting they should be euthanized is simply unacceptable
Unlikely, but would be fun.
It's a shame he's standing in the way of Gove doing any good.
I'm not entirely sure what Sunak is interested in, besides Sunak.
However if someone wants to control their own death, that should be their choice.
As a nation of pet lovers, we give a greater dignity in death to our pets, whom we love and don't want to suffer, than we do our vulnerable who are allowed to rot and die in misery rather than have a humane end of their own choosing.
We should show humans as much respect and love as we do our pets. Especially when those humans can vocalise their wishes.