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MAIL EXCLUSIVE: Plot to crown Mordaunt as PM #TomorrowsPapersToday pic.twitter.com/gFGFYzVdzl
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Although it doesn't include an official resignation statement it surely fires the starting gun for a leadership contest.
Vaughan Gething will surely be favourite for the same reason Yousaf was in Scotland. And he would be the wrong choice for er, much the same reason.
To be fair, however, neither of the other likely candidates, Eluned Morgan and Jeremy Miles are obviously superior. The only thing they might have going for them in a grassroots contest is they both speak fluent Welsh and I don't think Vaughan Gething does, although he certainly speaks some. But that won't influence the unions or the Labour hierarchy.
Edit - and third, which is still about seven rates above Wales' politicians and rugby players.
This is the last gasp of life in the last chance saloon on the last pub on the street in Last Moment City by Lake Apocalypse, under Extinction Volcano, as the AI War begins
Nothing to lose. Give the ball to Penny. Might save a seat or two
I don't think I've ever seen an Italian side this good.
I think PM as PM would be a sensible choice for the Tories... so I am reasonably confident it won't happen.
She's a British Jacinda Ardern but with even less intellectual heft.
She is nice and normal though. I've met her and she's free of all pomposity.
The fly half makes howling errors and some of the handling is bollocks
But yes they are a lot better than they were. Deserve to win this now and I fear wales do deserve the wooden spoon
We're a grumpy lot, aren't we?
(As for Mordaunt, as a feisty, funny LotO who recognises that parties need to compromise with the Britain that exists and might be humble enough to lay the ground for the next Conservative PM, why not? Michael Howard with better jokes and looks. But parachting her in as Prime blooming Minister, even for a six month lemming march... really?)
But then what else can the Tories do? They can’t sit back and accept extinction
I expect wales will,win. I’m sure the Welsh team will,want to win for Vaughan Gething.
1) Where it all exists in the mind of 1 MP?
2) Where they haven’t actually asked their putative ruler if they wanted to rule?
I guess if Tory MPs come begging because they think they will lose her seats without her, it might be hard to refuse? Because I don't see how she gains from this, unless she really wants out of politics and 6 month stint as PM would look good on the CV
Johnson is not even in Parliament, and the mechanisms by which he might enter it are too outlandish even for these telenovela times.
Mordaunt it is, then.
HOWEVER. Imagine you are Kemi or Suella. You want to become leader of the Conservatives, then PM.
If Penny becomes PM and loses, but not too badly, she isn't stepping down. She's going to say "I rescued us from the ashes, I will be the one to take us back into power."
So ambitious Tory MPs in safe seats might not like the sound of this plan.
They’re getting better. It’s a journey and they are getting there.
That might be enough to save 40 seats.
1. She gets to be PM, even if only for a few months. She should be able to last longer than Truss at least.
2. Let's assume the Tories end up getting walloped at the GE by a margin of say 10% (quite likely even if Sunak stays); Mordaunt can claim 'you need to stick with me, I halved the deficit in 6 months.
3. It's quite possible, given the problems facing it, that an incoming Labour government lasts only one term.
From Mordaunt's pov it surely a no-brainer.
SKS would make mincemeat of her.
Mordaunt read Philosophy (at Reading) which presumably suggests some kind of intellectual aspiration.
Ardern did Media Studies.
I still remember the “oh wow, look how far we’ve come” in France when Sarkozy appointed a lady of African ancestry to his cabinet. To a minor ministry, IIRC.
They can pass, they can catch, they can dodge, they can ruck.
Increasingly they can kick too, something they've been bad at in the past - as well as fading in the crucial last 20 minutes.
There’s no analogous example, anywhere.
Soft Mordaunt - replace the leader and muddle on with the same strategy.
Hard Mordaunt - replace the leader and also try to reboot the party and reframe the debate. Kick out anyone who is Reform minded and attempt to dominate the centre by using Reform as a foil. Try to crowd Labour out by making it a Reform vs Conservative election.
One more score for Italy and they’ve won
https://x.com/NicholasTyrone/status/1768941410261053725?s=20
The commentariat keep banging on about race and gender here. No-one cares.
I am surprised RefUK haven't started mentioning it.
Vapid bilge. Worse than the worst uber-moderniser stuff in the mid noughties.
Saving the party might be an argument, but the incumbents have monumentally fked it up so theyre not exactly to be trusted with their decisions.
That would require there to be 1 Tory MP with a mind.
Does he need to cabinet to approve that? Would (can) KC refuse him?
(2) Yes, but in practice a dissolution hasn't been refused since 1834 (discounting the unusual circumstances of 1931).
However - it wouldn't stop the vote of no confidence from happening. And if Sunak lost then they would be in real trouble.
Fans of PM may note that this is like an embarrassingly poor Liz Truss tribute act, pauses included.
There’s a not insignificant chance it actually delivers the Tory Extinction Event increasingly referenced on here.
But those asking how Mordaunt will compete with Reform have it wrong. Mordaunt would better compete with Labour (and the Lib Dems).
Reform voters are chaotic and it’s not even clear they turn out. Some of them just want to back a “winner”, which obviously Sunak is not. But a concerted appeal to Reform alienates much more than it attracts: there’s no Tory recovery based on winning elections them back.
Just a function of experience.
Received wisdom is that Britain is due a modest economic recovery and a gradual lowering of interest rates.
But it is also slowly dawning that Sunak/Hunt’s fiscal policy is almost Truss-in-slow-motion, and every leak to the Tory press about further tax cuts increases the quotient of anxiety about British economic governance.
They could throw this away with a converted try and a few penalties to Wales. Easily.
Hang tough guys. Hang tough.
I've noticed a real change in the market this month.
Much better than it was in January.
Mind you, this rumour story is driven by the telegraph and mail who are maybe just wishful thinking
Worked for SKS
That concludes this ex cathedra proclamation.
I'm far from convinced about Mordaunt as a leader but I do think the woke accusation is overdone - it comes from her commons speech years ago which was in my view a spot of Boris-like look-at-me ego grandstanding.
If they'd got the kick against France they'd be near the top of the board.
Incredible.
In a few years Italy might finally be challenging for the title
It’s a flaw in British democracy that has delivered a series of damaging duds.
Only a few years back the suggestion was replace them with Georgia.
France to edge it against England