It’s not terrible. Its just obviously a lot poorer than, say, BAND OF BROTHERS
Not very good is fair. The Spielbergian world is never afraid of a cliché and quite often gets away with it but MOTA can’t manage it. The scene where spunky USAAF Joes give the posho RAF boys a doing was rubbish.
Rewatched an episode of BoB the other night and it still holds up. Always tickled to be reminded that Gene Kelly was one of its producers.
Piece of Cake was pretty good, as far as I recall.
The Derek Robinson book? Read it but never caught any televisual version. Film or tv?
1988 LWT production. Shorter than it ought to have been, as the budget didn't run to more than half a dozen episodes, but did a pretty decent job if capturing the book. I don't think you'd get that many Spitfires together today.
I can't understand why the current mega budget production companies haven't had a look at his other stuff.
The WWI novels would be brilliant. (And are his best books.)
The TV series stirred up a bit of a controversy. One character does pretty much commit murder, and lies and cheats his way through.
'Moggy' Cattermole ? An utter shit, played brilliantly.
If you ask Google Gemini to write an op-ed in the style of GOP FCC Chair Ajit Pai, it won't do that "as it would require me to impersonate a real person with potentially controversial and divisive views." What about Dem FCC Chairs Wheeler and Rosenworcel? That's not a problem. https://twitter.com/MatthewBerryDC/status/1761107244068819169
Gemini is a reputational catastrophe for Google
Also, it's a reputational catastrophe for private models, their gatekeepers and the image of 'silicon valley overlords'. It's remarkable that the guardrail people managed to make it so bad and still get released.
Btw, the 'SVIC' youtube channel (two ex-googlers) is worth digging into for some backchat & research into all this. You may need to wade through a bit of SV chat however.
I genuinely wonder if Google could go under
Huge companies do collapse. AI is the future and they have nothing - apart from DeepMind, based in London
They rely on search. Google gets progressively worse at this, and AI could render their search unprofitable overnight. Meanwhile they are clearly so infested with a corrosive Wokeness they released the worst AI in history, which can only show black female trans Popes, thinking that would be fine
I damaged my teeth last year and like an eejit didn't get them sorted. Finally got round to seeing a NHS dentist and the preliminary price for full repair is frightening: low five figures, I shit you not. This is not doable. Has anybody gone abroad for multiple implants and if so any recommendations? Not "all on four" or "all on six" as they are just fancy dentures
If you ask Google Gemini to write an op-ed in the style of GOP FCC Chair Ajit Pai, it won't do that "as it would require me to impersonate a real person with potentially controversial and divisive views." What about Dem FCC Chairs Wheeler and Rosenworcel? That's not a problem. https://twitter.com/MatthewBerryDC/status/1761107244068819169
Gemini is a reputational catastrophe for Google
Also, it's a reputational catastrophe for private models, their gatekeepers and the image of 'silicon valley overlords'. It's remarkable that the guardrail people managed to make it so bad and still get released.
Btw, the 'SVIC' youtube channel (two ex-googlers) is worth digging into for some backchat & research into all this. You may need to wade through a bit of SV chat however.
I genuinely wonder if Google could go under
Huge companies do collapse. AI is the future and they have nothing - apart from DeepMind, based in London
They rely on search. Google gets progressively worse at this, and AI could render their search unprofitable overnight. Meanwhile they are clearly so infested with a corrosive Wokeness they released the worst AI in history, which can only show black female trans Popes, thinking that would be fine
Ominous signs for them
Yeah. Google will go under, and be replaced as *the* Internet Titan by What3Words...
Trump challenges the cosy concensus in a way Thatcher and those who thought like her did in the 1970s. In the same way as Butskellism was shown to have failed then, so we can certainly question the post-1945 defence and military concensus nearly 80 years on.
NATO has been supremely successful on the simple measure it has largely maintained peace in Europe - the break up of Yugoslavia excepted.
That being said, and I've always acknowledged this, it has been largely funded by and supported by the USA. When it faced the Warsaw Pact, there was the acknowledgement in Washington the fall of Western Europe would be a strategic catastrophe for the United States though I'm now of the view had the Red Army and its allies attacked, it wouldn't have been NATO facing defeat and reaching for the nuclear button after 96 hours but the Warsaw Pact.
There are three paths - the first is American Isolationism or at least disengagement from Europe (or even more accurately, a re-prioritisation of force toward the Pacific) which wouldn't exactly leave Europe defenceless but would leave questions. The Russian military performance in the Ukraine doesn't suggest an overwhelming military glacis confronting us but that's not to be complacent 1.5% of GDP rather than 2.0%? Semantics?
The second is we take more of the burden of NATO and the US less - everyone moves up to 2% at least. It would placate Trump but the long term move of American strategic interests to confront China would still happen.
The third is we jog on as we are which is probably what would happen in a second Biden term.
The debate about a European defence identity would stir up a lot of emotion. We pooled sovereignty to an extent in NATO though we've maintained our independent nuclear deterrent as have the French and could do so again in a new European defence arrangement. British and Polish soldiers on joint exercises hardly represents re-joining the EU.
I would honestly love to have seen a chat between Thatcher and Trump. She'd have mushed him into jam with one withering gaze.
(And I'm in no way a Thatcher fan - but she had an intellect, a plan, grit. Trump has grift. Which is rather different)
I damaged my teeth last year and like an eejit didn't get them sorted. Finally got round to seeing a NHS dentist and the preliminary price for full repair is frightening: low five figures, I shit you not. This is not doable. Has anybody gone abroad for multiple implants and if so any recommendations? Not "all on four" or "all on six" as they are just fancy dentures
Not especially useful - but a Hungarian guy of my acquaintance recently went back home to get some eye treatment. I asked why not just use the NHS and he politely held back a laugh as best he could.
What's the evidence for this upcoming dramatic swing to the right in the UK? We are experiencing record migration yet Labour remain miles ahead in the polls.
Public opinion is in favour of better public services rather than tax cuts. Young people are not swinging to the right as they age as they used to.
I just don't see a gap for the Truss/Farage wing of the Tory party, other than to take control of a decimated Tory party after the election and guarantee Labour two or three administrations.
Actually the scene in MOTA where the American duffs up the posh English RAF guy is worth focusing on as it shows the problems of the whole series
The English guy isn’t villainous enough for us to hate him and want him to be punched. Meanwhile the yank who is going to do the punching is actually confusing. They can’t decide who is going to do it. Literally. You think it will be the good looking hero then suddenly it’s someone else you’ve never seen before and care even less about
And the whole scene is hurried along like it is an embarrassment and then not mentioned again. So what was it for? What did it prove? No one looks heroic it just seems dumb and pointless - for all the characters - and they are already flimsy
This is the case throughout. You don’t know who is doing what or why or why you should care and half the time they are in masks so you can’t identify them. You have no idea of their backstory. You have no investment in them as people. So if they die - whatever
It’s really amazingly poor from a company as wealthy as Apple with Spielberg and Hanks as exec producers. Weird
There has to be a bit where the Brits are shown as a bit pathetic. The BoB part that irritated the shit out of me was when they helped the Paras cross the river and it spins out to the Paras drinking and praising the Americans because the Brits just can’t do anything themselves.
They don’t actually seem to be able to show the fact that there were as many very capable, tough and solid British troops around doing the same thing the Americans were. It’s a weird cultural cringe they have where they have to give us a kick.
See also "Saving Private Ryan", where the guy from Cheers is sarky about Montgomery
I always thought Liz Truss was fairly right-wing but not quite as right-wing as this.
You were probably right, at the time.
I once thought @williamglenn was a Liberal Remainer. You live and learn.
His positions are consistent: you can be both a (very disillusioned) European nationalist and an American nationalist on the basis you think it's good to have two powerful Western superpowers that stand on their own two feet.
With all due respect to @williamglenn his position on Europe has been very inconsistent. Of course he is perfectly entitled to change his mind, although bearing in mind how Brexit has planned out, I am intrigued as to why the change of heart.
After the EU vote he was a very compelling and impressive advocate for Remain. Now not so much.
If you ask Google Gemini to write an op-ed in the style of GOP FCC Chair Ajit Pai, it won't do that "as it would require me to impersonate a real person with potentially controversial and divisive views." What about Dem FCC Chairs Wheeler and Rosenworcel? That's not a problem. https://twitter.com/MatthewBerryDC/status/1761107244068819169
Gemini is a reputational catastrophe for Google
Also, it's a reputational catastrophe for private models, their gatekeepers and the image of 'silicon valley overlords'. It's remarkable that the guardrail people managed to make it so bad and still get released.
Btw, the 'SVIC' youtube channel (two ex-googlers) is worth digging into for some backchat & research into all this. You may need to wade through a bit of SV chat however.
I genuinely wonder if Google could go under
Huge companies do collapse. AI is the future and they have nothing - apart from DeepMind, based in London
They rely on search. Google gets progressively worse at this, and AI could render their search unprofitable overnight. Meanwhile they are clearly so infested with a corrosive Wokeness they released the worst AI in history, which can only show black female trans Popes, thinking that would be fine
Ominous signs for them
Yeah. Google will go under, and be replaced as *the* Internet Titan by What3Words...
Fair. It does seem quite unlikely. They are SO huge
However nothing is forever and all companies fail eventually. Until recently, if I had to choose the first tech titan to fall it would have been Meta (Facebook). Yet recently they are showing signs of life - and new thinking
Meanwhile my other choice, Microsoft, now owns the best AI in the world and could take over the galaxy
What does Google have, apart from DeepMind in london and an increasingly questionably search engine? Gmail? Its not a unique proposition
I damaged my teeth last year and like an eejit didn't get them sorted. Finally got round to seeing a NHS dentist and the preliminary price for full repair is frightening: low five figures, I shit you not. This is not doable. Has anybody gone abroad for multiple implants and if so any recommendations? Not "all on four" or "all on six" as they are just fancy dentures
YES
Go to Thailand. The dentistry is superb - they all train in America - and generally charge 30-50% what you’d pay in the UK (sometimes less than that)
If you’re talking 5 figures you’d almost certainly save money in Bangkok - and have a nice holibobs
If you ask Google Gemini to write an op-ed in the style of GOP FCC Chair Ajit Pai, it won't do that "as it would require me to impersonate a real person with potentially controversial and divisive views." What about Dem FCC Chairs Wheeler and Rosenworcel? That's not a problem. https://twitter.com/MatthewBerryDC/status/1761107244068819169
Gemini is a reputational catastrophe for Google
Also, it's a reputational catastrophe for private models, their gatekeepers and the image of 'silicon valley overlords'. It's remarkable that the guardrail people managed to make it so bad and still get released.
Btw, the 'SVIC' youtube channel (two ex-googlers) is worth digging into for some backchat & research into all this. You may need to wade through a bit of SV chat however.
I genuinely wonder if Google could go under
Huge companies do collapse. AI is the future and they have nothing - apart from DeepMind, based in London
They rely on search. Google gets progressively worse at this, and AI could render their search unprofitable overnight. Meanwhile they are clearly so infested with a corrosive Wokeness they released the worst AI in history, which can only show black female trans Popes, thinking that would be fine
Ominous signs for them
Yeah. Google will go under, and be replaced as *the* Internet Titan by What3Words...
Fair. It does seem quite unlikely. They are SO huge
However nothing is forever and all companies fail eventually. Until recently, if I had to choose the first tech titan to fall it would have been Meta (Facebook). Yet recently they are showing signs of life - and new thinking
Meanwhile my other choice, Microsoft, now owns the best AI in the world and could take over the galaxy
What does Google have, apart from DeepMind in london and an increasingly questionably search engine? Gmail? Its not a unique proposition
Just to double-down on my SVIC mention - one of them did a quick cover of google's integration of their Gemini model with sheets/gmail/etc. And it wasn't pretty (given the guy worked for them for years and is, basically, pro-google) :
If you ask Google Gemini to write an op-ed in the style of GOP FCC Chair Ajit Pai, it won't do that "as it would require me to impersonate a real person with potentially controversial and divisive views." What about Dem FCC Chairs Wheeler and Rosenworcel? That's not a problem. https://twitter.com/MatthewBerryDC/status/1761107244068819169
Gemini is a reputational catastrophe for Google
Also, it's a reputational catastrophe for private models, their gatekeepers and the image of 'silicon valley overlords'. It's remarkable that the guardrail people managed to make it so bad and still get released.
Btw, the 'SVIC' youtube channel (two ex-googlers) is worth digging into for some backchat & research into all this. You may need to wade through a bit of SV chat however.
I genuinely wonder if Google could go under
Huge companies do collapse. AI is the future and they have nothing - apart from DeepMind, based in London
They rely on search. Google gets progressively worse at this, and AI could render their search unprofitable overnight. Meanwhile they are clearly so infested with a corrosive Wokeness they released the worst AI in history, which can only show black female trans Popes, thinking that would be fine
Ominous signs for them
Yeah. Google will go under, and be replaced as *the* Internet Titan by What3Words...
Fair. It does seem quite unlikely. They are SO huge
However nothing is forever and all companies fail eventually. Until recently, if I had to choose the first tech titan to fall it would have been Meta (Facebook). Yet recently they are showing signs of life - and new thinking
Meanwhile my other choice, Microsoft, now owns the best AI in the world and could take over the galaxy
What does Google have, apart from DeepMind in london and an increasingly questionably search engine? Gmail? Its not a unique proposition
Deep pockets; huge cash flow; infrastructure; market position. It's not easy to dislodge the market leaders, as you note (which doesn't mean it won't happen).
What's the evidence for this upcoming dramatic swing to the right in the UK? We are experiencing record migration yet Labour remain miles ahead in the polls.
Public opinion is in favour of better public services rather than tax cuts. Young people are not swinging to the right as they age as they used to.
I just don't see a gap for the Truss/Farage wing of the Tory party, other than to take control of a decimated Tory party after the election and guarantee Labour two or three administrations.
Moving to the right as you get older is, in general, fine. There is nothing wrong with concluding things like your family is protected by rock solid defence, a nuclear deterrent and top quality armed forces; nothing wrong with believing in sound money, saving, prudent fiscal policies, broadest shoulders bear the heaviest burden; nothing wrong with coming to feel that history is part of an organic process from which the present and future is an oak tree like development; nothing wrong with realising that equality of outcome is meaningless but moving towards equality of opportunity is a fantastic and humane endeavour.
Not long ago such thoughts were the backbone of Tory voters and members. But who do I vote for now?
My town is falling toward the sea; another significant landslip this evening, following on from several smaller ones over recent days and the biggest one for decades in December.
If you ask Google Gemini to write an op-ed in the style of GOP FCC Chair Ajit Pai, it won't do that "as it would require me to impersonate a real person with potentially controversial and divisive views." What about Dem FCC Chairs Wheeler and Rosenworcel? That's not a problem. https://twitter.com/MatthewBerryDC/status/1761107244068819169
Gemini is a reputational catastrophe for Google
Also, it's a reputational catastrophe for private models, their gatekeepers and the image of 'silicon valley overlords'. It's remarkable that the guardrail people managed to make it so bad and still get released.
Btw, the 'SVIC' youtube channel (two ex-googlers) is worth digging into for some backchat & research into all this. You may need to wade through a bit of SV chat however.
I genuinely wonder if Google could go under
Huge companies do collapse. AI is the future and they have nothing - apart from DeepMind, based in London
They rely on search. Google gets progressively worse at this, and AI could render their search unprofitable overnight. Meanwhile they are clearly so infested with a corrosive Wokeness they released the worst AI in history, which can only show black female trans Popes, thinking that would be fine
Ominous signs for them
Yeah. Google will go under, and be replaced as *the* Internet Titan by What3Words...
Fair. It does seem quite unlikely. They are SO huge
However nothing is forever and all companies fail eventually. Until recently, if I had to choose the first tech titan to fall it would have been Meta (Facebook). Yet recently they are showing signs of life - and new thinking
Meanwhile my other choice, Microsoft, now owns the best AI in the world and could take over the galaxy
What does Google have, apart from DeepMind in london and an increasingly questionably search engine? Gmail? Its not a unique proposition
Deep pockets; huge cash flow; infrastructure; market position. It's not easy to dislodge the market leaders, as you note (which doesn't mean it won't happen).
Google have many fingers in many pies; and good companies reinvent themselves. Look at IBM or Microsoft. Or to a lesser extent, Apple, which is still in the consumer tech market.
I remember people saying back in the late 1980s that IBM had had it as a company, due to mainframes becoming redundant with the rise of PCs (*) and minicomputers. Likewise, that Linux would kill MS dead. Then the Internet would kill them. Their market cap has gone up tenfold in the last ten years.
(*) A market they grabbed a massive part of with the original IBM PC, then lost...
If you ask Google Gemini to write an op-ed in the style of GOP FCC Chair Ajit Pai, it won't do that "as it would require me to impersonate a real person with potentially controversial and divisive views." What about Dem FCC Chairs Wheeler and Rosenworcel? That's not a problem. https://twitter.com/MatthewBerryDC/status/1761107244068819169
Gemini is a reputational catastrophe for Google
Also, it's a reputational catastrophe for private models, their gatekeepers and the image of 'silicon valley overlords'. It's remarkable that the guardrail people managed to make it so bad and still get released.
Btw, the 'SVIC' youtube channel (two ex-googlers) is worth digging into for some backchat & research into all this. You may need to wade through a bit of SV chat however.
I genuinely wonder if Google could go under
Huge companies do collapse. AI is the future and they have nothing - apart from DeepMind, based in London
They rely on search. Google gets progressively worse at this, and AI could render their search unprofitable overnight. Meanwhile they are clearly so infested with a corrosive Wokeness they released the worst AI in history, which can only show black female trans Popes, thinking that would be fine
Ominous signs for them
Yeah. Google will go under, and be replaced as *the* Internet Titan by What3Words...
Fair. It does seem quite unlikely. They are SO huge
However nothing is forever and all companies fail eventually. Until recently, if I had to choose the first tech titan to fall it would have been Meta (Facebook). Yet recently they are showing signs of life - and new thinking
Meanwhile my other choice, Microsoft, now owns the best AI in the world and could take over the galaxy
What does Google have, apart from DeepMind in london and an increasingly questionably search engine? Gmail? Its not a unique proposition
Google owns Youtube of course, Android, Waymo self driving cars. Plus its search engine is, along with Youtube, the 2 most searched websites in the world.
Plus of course you would expect 95% of companies to have already gone under before those actually invested and leading in AI did
If you ask Google Gemini to write an op-ed in the style of GOP FCC Chair Ajit Pai, it won't do that "as it would require me to impersonate a real person with potentially controversial and divisive views." What about Dem FCC Chairs Wheeler and Rosenworcel? That's not a problem. https://twitter.com/MatthewBerryDC/status/1761107244068819169
Gemini is a reputational catastrophe for Google
Also, it's a reputational catastrophe for private models, their gatekeepers and the image of 'silicon valley overlords'. It's remarkable that the guardrail people managed to make it so bad and still get released.
Btw, the 'SVIC' youtube channel (two ex-googlers) is worth digging into for some backchat & research into all this. You may need to wade through a bit of SV chat however.
I genuinely wonder if Google could go under
Huge companies do collapse. AI is the future and they have nothing - apart from DeepMind, based in London
They rely on search. Google gets progressively worse at this, and AI could render their search unprofitable overnight. Meanwhile they are clearly so infested with a corrosive Wokeness they released the worst AI in history, which can only show black female trans Popes, thinking that would be fine
Ominous signs for them
Yeah. Google will go under, and be replaced as *the* Internet Titan by What3Words...
Fair. It does seem quite unlikely. They are SO huge
However nothing is forever and all companies fail eventually. Until recently, if I had to choose the first tech titan to fall it would have been Meta (Facebook). Yet recently they are showing signs of life - and new thinking
Meanwhile my other choice, Microsoft, now owns the best AI in the world and could take over the galaxy
What does Google have, apart from DeepMind in london and an increasingly questionably search engine? Gmail? Its not a unique proposition
Deep pockets; huge cash flow; infrastructure; market position. It's not easy to dislodge the market leaders, as you note (which doesn't mean it won't happen).
Gemini is a disquietingly major mistake by them
It’s especially disquieting as it means they are so complacent/arrogant/woke/dumb - or all four - they didn’t red-team their own AI model. They didn’t properly test it or they don’t allow dissenting mindsets which might suggest flaws (“er, our model won’t ever show white people and appears to be racist against whites”)
That is a proper red alert moment. It’s like the guy at Kodak who said “uhm, maybe this digital image stuff is an issue?” and everyone ignored him. Or they sacked him
I'm getting a bit tired of the cyberbullying on here of @williamglenn - I hope the moronic sniping "WELL, WOULD YOU VOTE FOR TRUMP? *WOULD* YOU?!" doesn't push him off.
I really value the way he offers a completely different perspective on American and European nationalism, and intelligently so, and forces you to think harder.
He's a real asset to this site.
Let’s hope he doesn’t flounce off vowing never to return.
I believe we had two unsuccessful flounces last week. A very poor return
I got one of the biggest cheers I've ever received today
I was working right by my old school (well, actually, right where my old school was before they built the new school just behind, then knocked the old school down and built 10 flats and 35 houses). It was lunchbreak, so very noisy in the playground
As I was crossing the bit of road in the picture (where no cars were parked), I heard a little boy screaming
"POSTIE, POSTIE, PLEEAAASE KICK US OUR BALL"
The football was about where the back right tyre of the little silver car is, about ten yards from me. As I walked towards it, I realised that it wasn't one little boy screaming at me; there were about a hundred of them, all screaming "POSTIE KICK THE BALL BACK"
I also realised that the fence, about thirty yards away, was around twenty foot high (the height of the big posts in the pic, you can't see the big fence in it)
I had a fleeting moment of self doubt. I haven't kicked a football for at least five years, maybe ten. How do I kick a ball? How do I kick a ball over that distant, huge fence?
As I picked up the ball, and looked again, I thought that's easy, put your laces through it. I did just that and caught it perfectly (I think it would have spiralled if it was a rugby ball), and went way over the fence
The raucous roar that erupted made me feel like I'd scored a goal
What's the evidence for this upcoming dramatic swing to the right in the UK? We are experiencing record migration yet Labour remain miles ahead in the polls.
Public opinion is in favour of better public services rather than tax cuts. Young people are not swinging to the right as they age as they used to.
I just don't see a gap for the Truss/Farage wing of the Tory party, other than to take control of a decimated Tory party after the election and guarantee Labour two or three administrations.
They are, most voters over 39 voted Tory at the last election.
If Labour muck up the economy even a Truss/Farage/Braverman/Badenoch/Rees Mogg Conservative Party could win.
Remember in 1975 most commentators considered Thatcher an unelectable rightwinger and centrist Callaghan was seen as likely to be re elected for some time
If you ask Google Gemini to write an op-ed in the style of GOP FCC Chair Ajit Pai, it won't do that "as it would require me to impersonate a real person with potentially controversial and divisive views." What about Dem FCC Chairs Wheeler and Rosenworcel? That's not a problem. https://twitter.com/MatthewBerryDC/status/1761107244068819169
Gemini is a reputational catastrophe for Google
Also, it's a reputational catastrophe for private models, their gatekeepers and the image of 'silicon valley overlords'. It's remarkable that the guardrail people managed to make it so bad and still get released.
Btw, the 'SVIC' youtube channel (two ex-googlers) is worth digging into for some backchat & research into all this. You may need to wade through a bit of SV chat however.
I genuinely wonder if Google could go under
Huge companies do collapse. AI is the future and they have nothing - apart from DeepMind, based in London
They rely on search. Google gets progressively worse at this, and AI could render their search unprofitable overnight. Meanwhile they are clearly so infested with a corrosive Wokeness they released the worst AI in history, which can only show black female trans Popes, thinking that would be fine
Ominous signs for them
Yeah. Google will go under, and be replaced as *the* Internet Titan by What3Words...
Fair. It does seem quite unlikely. They are SO huge
However nothing is forever and all companies fail eventually. Until recently, if I had to choose the first tech titan to fall it would have been Meta (Facebook). Yet recently they are showing signs of life - and new thinking
Meanwhile my other choice, Microsoft, now owns the best AI in the world and could take over the galaxy
What does Google have, apart from DeepMind in london and an increasingly questionably search engine? Gmail? Its not a unique proposition
Google owns Youtube of course, Android, Waymo self driving cars. Plus its search engine is, along with Youtube, the 2 most searched websites in the world.
Plus of course you would expect 95% of companies to have already gone under before those actually invested and leading in AI did
All true. Google are ginormous. A world without them seems inconceivable. But a world without the Roman Empire was equally mad, as a notion, for centuries. Or a world without horses as a main source of power
AI is the kind of epochal tech which WILL change the world - and fast
I damaged my teeth last year and like an eejit didn't get them sorted. Finally got round to seeing a NHS dentist and the preliminary price for full repair is frightening: low five figures, I shit you not. This is not doable. Has anybody gone abroad for multiple implants and if so any recommendations? Not "all on four" or "all on six" as they are just fancy dentures
YES
Go to Thailand. The dentistry is superb - they all train in America - and generally charge 30-50% what you’d pay in the UK (sometimes less than that)
If you’re talking 5 figures you’d almost certainly save money in Bangkok - and have a nice holibobs
Plausible. A rough translate and currency converter makes me think Thai dentists 1.3K GBP for a full one-tooth implant (post, abutment, crown). UK is around £2.5 to 2.8K. Ireland could get it down to £1.8K as would Belgium. Not doing Turkey because obvious.
Travel and time off work is a factor: implants need to be bedded in so there's a 3-6 month period before the permanent crown is fitted. Plus doing several at once is contra-indicated due to not wanting to be in a horror movie. So figure four trips, staggering the extractions, implants, fittings. This makes me think Belgium, as Eurostar is competitive (go out early Friday morn, back late Friday night, spend the weekend crying around a bleeding torn mouf)
However, and unsarcastically, thank you for the information. It appears to be a genuine option.
If you ask Google Gemini to write an op-ed in the style of GOP FCC Chair Ajit Pai, it won't do that "as it would require me to impersonate a real person with potentially controversial and divisive views." What about Dem FCC Chairs Wheeler and Rosenworcel? That's not a problem. https://twitter.com/MatthewBerryDC/status/1761107244068819169
Gemini is a reputational catastrophe for Google
Also, it's a reputational catastrophe for private models, their gatekeepers and the image of 'silicon valley overlords'. It's remarkable that the guardrail people managed to make it so bad and still get released.
Btw, the 'SVIC' youtube channel (two ex-googlers) is worth digging into for some backchat & research into all this. You may need to wade through a bit of SV chat however.
I genuinely wonder if Google could go under
Huge companies do collapse. AI is the future and they have nothing - apart from DeepMind, based in London
They rely on search. Google gets progressively worse at this, and AI could render their search unprofitable overnight. Meanwhile they are clearly so infested with a corrosive Wokeness they released the worst AI in history, which can only show black female trans Popes, thinking that would be fine
Ominous signs for them
Yeah. Google will go under, and be replaced as *the* Internet Titan by What3Words...
Fair. It does seem quite unlikely. They are SO huge
However nothing is forever and all companies fail eventually. Until recently, if I had to choose the first tech titan to fall it would have been Meta (Facebook). Yet recently they are showing signs of life - and new thinking
Meanwhile my other choice, Microsoft, now owns the best AI in the world and could take over the galaxy
What does Google have, apart from DeepMind in london and an increasingly questionably search engine? Gmail? Its not a unique proposition
Google owns Youtube of course, Android, Waymo self driving cars. Plus its search engine is, along with Youtube, the 2 most searched websites in the world.
Plus of course you would expect 95% of companies to have already gone under before those actually invested and leading in AI did
All true. Google are ginormous. A world without them seems inconceivable. But a world without the Roman Empire was equally mad, as a notion, for centuries. Or a world without horses as a main source of power
AI is the kind of epochal tech which WILL change the world - and fast
Brace!
And on that suitably Leon-esque note, goodnight
And if AI makes most permanent jobs redundant it makes a UBI funded by a robot tax inevitable.
There are only so many jobs Microsoft and Apple can create!
I damaged my teeth last year and like an eejit didn't get them sorted. Finally got round to seeing a NHS dentist and the preliminary price for full repair is frightening: low five figures, I shit you not. This is not doable. Has anybody gone abroad for multiple implants and if so any recommendations? Not "all on four" or "all on six" as they are just fancy dentures
YES
Go to Thailand. The dentistry is superb - they all train in America - and generally charge 30-50% what you’d pay in the UK (sometimes less than that)
If you’re talking 5 figures you’d almost certainly save money in Bangkok - and have a nice holibobs
Plausible. A rough translate and currency converter makes me think Thai dentists 1.3K GBP for a full one-tooth implant (post, abutment, crown). UK is around £2.5 to 2.8K. Ireland could get it down to £1.8K as would Belgium. Not doing Turkey because obvious.
Travel and time off work is a factor: implants need to be bedded in so there's a 3-6 month period before the permanent crown is fitted. Plus doing several at once is contra-indicated due to not wanting to be in a horror movie. So figure four trips, staggering the extractions, implants, fittings. This makes me think Belgium, as Eurostar is competitive (go out early Friday morn, back late Friday night, spend the weekend crying around a bleeding torn mouf)
However, and unsarcastically, thank you for the information. It appears to be a genuine option.
Plus in Bangkok you can buy Tramadol OTC. Which hugely reduces any pain…
What's the evidence for this upcoming dramatic swing to the right in the UK? We are experiencing record migration yet Labour remain miles ahead in the polls.
Public opinion is in favour of better public services rather than tax cuts. Young people are not swinging to the right as they age as they used to.
I just don't see a gap for the Truss/Farage wing of the Tory party, other than to take control of a decimated Tory party after the election and guarantee Labour two or three administrations.
They are, most voters over 39 voted Tory at the last election.
If Labour muck up the economy even a Truss/Farage/Braverman/Badenoch/Rees Mogg Conservative Party could win.
Remember in 1975 most commentators considered Thatcher an unelectable rightwinger and centrist Callaghan was seen as likely to be re elected for some time
Your problem is that millennials are actually becoming more leftwing with age:
If you ask Google Gemini to write an op-ed in the style of GOP FCC Chair Ajit Pai, it won't do that "as it would require me to impersonate a real person with potentially controversial and divisive views." What about Dem FCC Chairs Wheeler and Rosenworcel? That's not a problem. https://twitter.com/MatthewBerryDC/status/1761107244068819169
Gemini is a reputational catastrophe for Google
Also, it's a reputational catastrophe for private models, their gatekeepers and the image of 'silicon valley overlords'. It's remarkable that the guardrail people managed to make it so bad and still get released.
Btw, the 'SVIC' youtube channel (two ex-googlers) is worth digging into for some backchat & research into all this. You may need to wade through a bit of SV chat however.
I genuinely wonder if Google could go under
Huge companies do collapse. AI is the future and they have nothing - apart from DeepMind, based in London
They rely on search. Google gets progressively worse at this, and AI could render their search unprofitable overnight. Meanwhile they are clearly so infested with a corrosive Wokeness they released the worst AI in history, which can only show black female trans Popes, thinking that would be fine
Ominous signs for them
Yeah. Google will go under, and be replaced as *the* Internet Titan by What3Words...
Fair. It does seem quite unlikely. They are SO huge
However nothing is forever and all companies fail eventually. Until recently, if I had to choose the first tech titan to fall it would have been Meta (Facebook). Yet recently they are showing signs of life - and new thinking
Meanwhile my other choice, Microsoft, now owns the best AI in the world and could take over the galaxy
What does Google have, apart from DeepMind in london and an increasingly questionably search engine? Gmail? Its not a unique proposition
Deep pockets; huge cash flow; infrastructure; market position. It's not easy to dislodge the market leaders, as you note (which doesn't mean it won't happen).
Google have many fingers in many pies; and good companies reinvent themselves. Look at IBM or Microsoft. Or to a lesser extent, Apple, which is still in the consumer tech market.
I remember people saying back in the late 1980s that IBM had had it as a company, due to mainframes becoming redundant with the rise of PCs (*) and minicomputers. Likewise, that Linux would kill MS dead. Then the Internet would kill them. Their market cap has gone up tenfold in the last ten years.
(*) A market they grabbed a massive part of with the original IBM PC, then lost...
Yes, everyone read stuff like The Innovator's Dilemma back at the end of last century, and got some idea of what's necessary to survive.
Don't know why Leon's ignoring YouTube. That alone would keep Google solvent for a while.
I damaged my teeth last year and like an eejit didn't get them sorted. Finally got round to seeing a NHS dentist and the preliminary price for full repair is frightening: low five figures, I shit you not. This is not doable. Has anybody gone abroad for multiple implants and if so any recommendations? Not "all on four" or "all on six" as they are just fancy dentures
YES
Go to Thailand. The dentistry is superb - they all train in America - and generally charge 30-50% what you’d pay in the UK (sometimes less than that)
If you’re talking 5 figures you’d almost certainly save money in Bangkok - and have a nice holibobs
Plausible. A rough translate and currency converter makes me think Thai dentists 1.3K GBP for a full one-tooth implant (post, abutment, crown). UK is around £2.5 to 2.8K. Ireland could get it down to £1.8K as would Belgium. Not doing Turkey because obvious.
Travel and time off work is a factor: implants need to be bedded in so there's a 3-6 month period before the permanent crown is fitted. Plus doing several at once is contra-indicated due to not wanting to be in a horror movie. So figure four trips, staggering the extractions, implants, fittings. This makes me think Belgium, as Eurostar is competitive (go out early Friday morn, back late Friday night, spend the weekend crying around a bleeding torn mouf)
However, and unsarcastically, thank you for the information. It appears to be a genuine option.
What happens if something goes wrong? At least in the UK you've some recourse.
What's the evidence for this upcoming dramatic swing to the right in the UK? We are experiencing record migration yet Labour remain miles ahead in the polls.
Public opinion is in favour of better public services rather than tax cuts. Young people are not swinging to the right as they age as they used to.
I just don't see a gap for the Truss/Farage wing of the Tory party, other than to take control of a decimated Tory party after the election and guarantee Labour two or three administrations.
They are, most voters over 39 voted Tory at the last election.
If Labour muck up the economy even a Truss/Farage/Braverman/Badenoch/Rees Mogg Conservative Party could win.
Remember in 1975 most commentators considered Thatcher an unelectable rightwinger and centrist Callaghan was seen as likely to be re elected for some time
Your problem is that millennials are actually becoming more leftwing with age:
The Tories have spent the last fourteen years creating a generation of non-Tories. That was phenomenal fore-planning wasn't it!
Telling young people they're all thick, entitled and woke makes them not vote for you, who knew?
What's the evidence for this upcoming dramatic swing to the right in the UK? We are experiencing record migration yet Labour remain miles ahead in the polls.
Public opinion is in favour of better public services rather than tax cuts. Young people are not swinging to the right as they age as they used to.
I just don't see a gap for the Truss/Farage wing of the Tory party, other than to take control of a decimated Tory party after the election and guarantee Labour two or three administrations.
They are, most voters over 39 voted Tory at the last election.
If Labour muck up the economy even a Truss/Farage/Braverman/Badenoch/Rees Mogg Conservative Party could win.
Remember in 1975 most commentators considered Thatcher an unelectable rightwinger and centrist Callaghan was seen as likely to be re elected for some time
Your problem is that millennials are actually becoming more leftwing with age:
The Tories have spent the last fourteen years creating a generation of non-Tories. That was phenomenal fore-planning wasn't it!
Telling young people they're all thick, entitled and woke makes them not vote for you, who knew?
You don’t think that hearing Liz Truss’s stirring oratory today will win some of them round?
It's absolutely breathtaking that Truss should de facto endorse the Orange Turd. Goes to prove that she's devoid of any braincells whatsoever. I have the misfortune to live in her constituency. I definitely will NOT be lending her my vote this time round. I would normally vote true blue, but I'm a one-nation, economic credibility focused, socially liberal old-style Tolerant Tory. She isn't. She is a clear and manifest danger to not only the Party but the country. She deserves to be voted out. Unfortunately her constituency is one of top safest, if not THE safest Tory seat in the country. It would take the shattering of the earth to dislodge her. I can only hope that her ruinous reputation and the utter disdain she is commonly held in around the country results in enough stay-at-homes and active votes against her to make the difference hereabouts.
No, he had half a point. While I think william was just wrong, I'm conscious I can harp on excessively.
Feels a bit like the pot calling the kettle black. Many users who accuse others of bullying do it themselves all the time.
Those that claim to hate Labour/left wing partisan posting, seem to post as much pro-Tory stuff as they want.
Everyone is a hypocrite.
Perhaps. But we all have to de-escalate occasionally.
When has the user in question ever de-escalated? Every time they re-appear they are even more angry and condescending. They are the only person here I actually believe brings the vibe down.
I damaged my teeth last year and like an eejit didn't get them sorted. Finally got round to seeing a NHS dentist and the preliminary price for full repair is frightening: low five figures, I shit you not. This is not doable. Has anybody gone abroad for multiple implants and if so any recommendations? Not "all on four" or "all on six" as they are just fancy dentures
YES
Go to Thailand. The dentistry is superb - they all train in America - and generally charge 30-50% what you’d pay in the UK (sometimes less than that)
If you’re talking 5 figures you’d almost certainly save money in Bangkok - and have a nice holibobs
Plausible. A rough translate and currency converter makes me think Thai dentists 1.3K GBP for a full one-tooth implant (post, abutment, crown). UK is around £2.5 to 2.8K. Ireland could get it down to £1.8K as would Belgium. Not doing Turkey because obvious.
Travel and time off work is a factor: implants need to be bedded in so there's a 3-6 month period before the permanent crown is fitted. Plus doing several at once is contra-indicated due to not wanting to be in a horror movie. So figure four trips, staggering the extractions, implants, fittings. This makes me think Belgium, as Eurostar is competitive (go out early Friday morn, back late Friday night, spend the weekend crying around a bleeding torn mouf)
However, and unsarcastically, thank you for the information. It appears to be a genuine option.
What happens if something goes wrong? At least in the UK you've some recourse.
Needs must when the Devil drives. I can't do five figures, period, so I can't do UK. I can't do status quo because the teeth are beginning to cascade: as each tooth is removed its neighbours become more wobbly. My mouth is turning into Oppenheimer. So abroad is necessary and the risk must be purchased.
What's the evidence for this upcoming dramatic swing to the right in the UK? We are experiencing record migration yet Labour remain miles ahead in the polls.
Public opinion is in favour of better public services rather than tax cuts. Young people are not swinging to the right as they age as they used to.
I just don't see a gap for the Truss/Farage wing of the Tory party, other than to take control of a decimated Tory party after the election and guarantee Labour two or three administrations.
They are, most voters over 39 voted Tory at the last election.
If Labour muck up the economy even a Truss/Farage/Braverman/Badenoch/Rees Mogg Conservative Party could win.
Remember in 1975 most commentators considered Thatcher an unelectable rightwinger and centrist Callaghan was seen as likely to be re elected for some time
Your problem is that millennials are actually becoming more leftwing with age:
The Tories have spent the last fourteen years creating a generation of non-Tories. That was phenomenal fore-planning wasn't it!
Telling young people they're all thick, entitled and woke makes them not vote for you, who knew?
You don’t think that hearing Liz Truss’s stirring oratory today will win some of them round?
I'm getting a bit tired of the cyberbullying on here of @williamglenn - I hope the moronic sniping "WELL, WOULD YOU VOTE FOR TRUMP? *WOULD* YOU?!" doesn't push him off.
I really value the way he offers a completely different perspective on American and European nationalism, and intelligently so, and forces you to think harder.
He's a real asset to this site.
It is quite amusing watching people go in to Trump derangement syndrome. They insist that, whilst Trump is the overwhelming favourite in the US election, and Europe 'lurches to the far right', any similar political movement in the UK is doomed to failure, because the centre in the UK has shifted to the left, and the conservatives need to 'modernise' and go along with it, ignoring overwhelming evidence that things like their policy on stopping small boats is very popular with the public.
The whole thing with the "PB Consensus" reminds me a bit of dealing with Corbynites in the labour party - people have difficulties facing up to reality.
I would agree that Trump is symptomatic of the decline of the USA, but would say that the democrats are just as much to blame for this, and that Trump offers voters a meaningful alternative.
No, he had half a point. While I think william was just wrong, I'm conscious I can harp on excessively.
Feels a bit like the pot calling the kettle black. Many users who accuse others of bullying do it themselves all the time.
Those that claim to hate Labour/left wing partisan posting, seem to post as much pro-Tory stuff as they want.
Everyone is a hypocrite.
Perhaps. But we all have to de-escalate occasionally.
When has the user in question ever de-escalated? Every time they re-appear they are even more angry and condescending. They are the only person here I actually believe brings the vibe down.
For how long was it that the HorsecockBatterer wanted to drive BigG off this site?
I damaged my teeth last year and like an eejit didn't get them sorted. Finally got round to seeing a NHS dentist and the preliminary price for full repair is frightening: low five figures, I shit you not. This is not doable. Has anybody gone abroad for multiple implants and if so any recommendations? Not "all on four" or "all on six" as they are just fancy dentures
YES
Go to Thailand. The dentistry is superb - they all train in America - and generally charge 30-50% what you’d pay in the UK (sometimes less than that)
If you’re talking 5 figures you’d almost certainly save money in Bangkok - and have a nice holibobs
Plausible. A rough translate and currency converter makes me think Thai dentists 1.3K GBP for a full one-tooth implant (post, abutment, crown). UK is around £2.5 to 2.8K. Ireland could get it down to £1.8K as would Belgium. Not doing Turkey because obvious.
Travel and time off work is a factor: implants need to be bedded in so there's a 3-6 month period before the permanent crown is fitted. Plus doing several at once is contra-indicated due to not wanting to be in a horror movie. So figure four trips, staggering the extractions, implants, fittings. This makes me think Belgium, as Eurostar is competitive (go out early Friday morn, back late Friday night, spend the weekend crying around a bleeding torn mouf)
However, and unsarcastically, thank you for the information. It appears to be a genuine option.
A friend called round last week who I haven't seen in a decade
He is very wealthy and has had extensive teeth reconstruction which so far has cost him £32,000
He was told it would take 9 months and even after 2 and a half years he still has outstanding work and strangely it has changed the way he speaks
I do not want to depress you but he is being treated privately in the UK and said he is pleased he did not have the treatment abroad due to the multiple trips and complications
I assume going abroad for routine dentistry may be an option but in my opinion UK based is probably the best choice for more complex issues
I damaged my teeth last year and like an eejit didn't get them sorted. Finally got round to seeing a NHS dentist and the preliminary price for full repair is frightening: low five figures, I shit you not. This is not doable. Has anybody gone abroad for multiple implants and if so any recommendations? Not "all on four" or "all on six" as they are just fancy dentures
My sympathies. I have not looked in to going abroad but would certainly consider doing the same thing in this situation. As things stand for me my local NHS dentist packed it in. I have been brushing my teeth more, flossing etc as a precautionary measure.
I damaged my teeth last year and like an eejit didn't get them sorted. Finally got round to seeing a NHS dentist and the preliminary price for full repair is frightening: low five figures, I shit you not. This is not doable. Has anybody gone abroad for multiple implants and if so any recommendations? Not "all on four" or "all on six" as they are just fancy dentures
YES
Go to Thailand. The dentistry is superb - they all train in America - and generally charge 30-50% what you’d pay in the UK (sometimes less than that)
If you’re talking 5 figures you’d almost certainly save money in Bangkok - and have a nice holibobs
Plausible. A rough translate and currency converter makes me think Thai dentists 1.3K GBP for a full one-tooth implant (post, abutment, crown). UK is around £2.5 to 2.8K. Ireland could get it down to £1.8K as would Belgium. Not doing Turkey because obvious.
Travel and time off work is a factor: implants need to be bedded in so there's a 3-6 month period before the permanent crown is fitted. Plus doing several at once is contra-indicated due to not wanting to be in a horror movie. So figure four trips, staggering the extractions, implants, fittings. This makes me think Belgium, as Eurostar is competitive (go out early Friday morn, back late Friday night, spend the weekend crying around a bleeding torn mouf)
However, and unsarcastically, thank you for the information. It appears to be a genuine option.
A friend called round last week who I haven't seen in a decade
He is very wealthy and has had extensive teeth reconstruction which so far has cost him £32,000
He was told it would take 9 months and even after 2 and a half years he still has outstanding work and strangely it has changed the way he speaks
I do not want to depress you but he is being treated privately in the UK and said he is pleased he did not have the treatment abroad due to the multiple trips and complications
I assume going abroad for routine dentistry may be an option but in my opinion UK based is probably the best choice for more complex issues
We probably both remember the Pam Ayres poem about wish I'd looked after my teeth...
What's the evidence for this upcoming dramatic swing to the right in the UK? We are experiencing record migration yet Labour remain miles ahead in the polls.
Public opinion is in favour of better public services rather than tax cuts. Young people are not swinging to the right as they age as they used to.
I just don't see a gap for the Truss/Farage wing of the Tory party, other than to take control of a decimated Tory party after the election and guarantee Labour two or three administrations.
They are, most voters over 39 voted Tory at the last election.
If Labour muck up the economy even a Truss/Farage/Braverman/Badenoch/Rees Mogg Conservative Party could win.
Remember in 1975 most commentators considered Thatcher an unelectable rightwinger and centrist Callaghan was seen as likely to be re elected for some time
Your problem is that millennials are actually becoming more leftwing with age:
The Tories have spent the last fourteen years creating a generation of non-Tories. That was phenomenal fore-planning wasn't it!
Telling young people they're all thick, entitled and woke makes them not vote for you, who knew?
Unfortunately, iiuc the generation after the millennials (GenZ 1995-2010) are turning right, at least US males are. Generational stuff be weird.
What's the evidence for this upcoming dramatic swing to the right in the UK? We are experiencing record migration yet Labour remain miles ahead in the polls.
Public opinion is in favour of better public services rather than tax cuts. Young people are not swinging to the right as they age as they used to.
I just don't see a gap for the Truss/Farage wing of the Tory party, other than to take control of a decimated Tory party after the election and guarantee Labour two or three administrations.
They are, most voters over 39 voted Tory at the last election.
If Labour muck up the economy even a Truss/Farage/Braverman/Badenoch/Rees Mogg Conservative Party could win.
Remember in 1975 most commentators considered Thatcher an unelectable rightwinger and centrist Callaghan was seen as likely to be re elected for some time
Your problem is that millennials are actually becoming more leftwing with age:
That is just mainly a factor of Brexit, Cameron even won 25-35 year olds in 2010.
However Brexit is now done and if Labour win the next election they will be responsible for the economy, if they fail to deliver then young people will shift more to the right again, as they are did in Italy and are now doing in the Canada and the US and even to Le Pen in France who is now competitive with Macron's party even amongst the youngest.
The US chart is already outdated, although Biden won under 35s comfortably in 2020 Trump is now near level with him amongst the youngest voters
I damaged my teeth last year and like an eejit didn't get them sorted. Finally got round to seeing a NHS dentist and the preliminary price for full repair is frightening: low five figures, I shit you not. This is not doable. Has anybody gone abroad for multiple implants and if so any recommendations? Not "all on four" or "all on six" as they are just fancy dentures
YES
Go to Thailand. The dentistry is superb - they all train in America - and generally charge 30-50% what you’d pay in the UK (sometimes less than that)
If you’re talking 5 figures you’d almost certainly save money in Bangkok - and have a nice holibobs
Plausible. A rough translate and currency converter makes me think Thai dentists 1.3K GBP for a full one-tooth implant (post, abutment, crown). UK is around £2.5 to 2.8K. Ireland could get it down to £1.8K as would Belgium. Not doing Turkey because obvious.
Travel and time off work is a factor: implants need to be bedded in so there's a 3-6 month period before the permanent crown is fitted. Plus doing several at once is contra-indicated due to not wanting to be in a horror movie. So figure four trips, staggering the extractions, implants, fittings. This makes me think Belgium, as Eurostar is competitive (go out early Friday morn, back late Friday night, spend the weekend crying around a bleeding torn mouf)
However, and unsarcastically, thank you for the information. It appears to be a genuine option.
A friend called round last week who I haven't seen in a decade
He is very wealthy and has had extensive teeth reconstruction which so far has cost him £32,000
He was told it would take 9 months and even after 2 and a half years he still has outstanding work and strangely it has changed the way he speaks
I do not want to depress you but he is being treated privately in the UK and said he is pleased he did not have the treatment abroad due to the multiple trips and complications
I assume going abroad for routine dentistry may be an option but in my opinion UK based is probably the best choice for more complex issues
We probably both remember the Pam Ayres poem about wish I'd looked after my teeth...
We have been in Denplan for years and have 2 routine check ups annually and all our dentistry is included in the £850pa I pay for both of us
My wife is to have a root canal filling in 3 weeks which is at no cost but the laboratory cost of the crown is chargeable
Furthermore, I have said previously that their worldwide emergency cover is amazing enabling me to have treatment in New Zealand on a visit completely free of charges
If you ask Google Gemini to write an op-ed in the style of GOP FCC Chair Ajit Pai, it won't do that "as it would require me to impersonate a real person with potentially controversial and divisive views." What about Dem FCC Chairs Wheeler and Rosenworcel? That's not a problem. https://twitter.com/MatthewBerryDC/status/1761107244068819169
Gemini is a reputational catastrophe for Google
Also, it's a reputational catastrophe for private models, their gatekeepers and the image of 'silicon valley overlords'. It's remarkable that the guardrail people managed to make it so bad and still get released.
Btw, the 'SVIC' youtube channel (two ex-googlers) is worth digging into for some backchat & research into all this. You may need to wade through a bit of SV chat however.
I genuinely wonder if Google could go under
Huge companies do collapse. AI is the future and they have nothing - apart from DeepMind, based in London
They rely on search. Google gets progressively worse at this, and AI could render their search unprofitable overnight. Meanwhile they are clearly so infested with a corrosive Wokeness they released the worst AI in history, which can only show black female trans Popes, thinking that would be fine
Ominous signs for them
Yeah. Google will go under, and be replaced as *the* Internet Titan by What3Words...
Fair. It does seem quite unlikely. They are SO huge
However nothing is forever and all companies fail eventually. Until recently, if I had to choose the first tech titan to fall it would have been Meta (Facebook). Yet recently they are showing signs of life - and new thinking
Meanwhile my other choice, Microsoft, now owns the best AI in the world and could take over the galaxy
What does Google have, apart from DeepMind in london and an increasingly questionably search engine? Gmail? Its not a unique proposition
Deep pockets; huge cash flow; infrastructure; market position. It's not easy to dislodge the market leaders, as you note (which doesn't mean it won't happen).
Gemini is a disquietingly major mistake by them
It’s especially disquieting as it means they are so complacent/arrogant/woke/dumb - or all four - they didn’t red-team their own AI model. They didn’t properly test it or they don’t allow dissenting mindsets which might suggest flaws (“er, our model won’t ever show white people and appears to be racist against whites”)
That is a proper red alert moment. It’s like the guy at Kodak who said “uhm, maybe this digital image stuff is an issue?” and everyone ignored him. Or they sacked him
Google have always released new things that don't quite work. It's not going to break them.
I damaged my teeth last year and like an eejit didn't get them sorted. Finally got round to seeing a NHS dentist and the preliminary price for full repair is frightening: low five figures, I shit you not. This is not doable. Has anybody gone abroad for multiple implants and if so any recommendations? Not "all on four" or "all on six" as they are just fancy dentures
YES
Go to Thailand. The dentistry is superb - they all train in America - and generally charge 30-50% what you’d pay in the UK (sometimes less than that)
If you’re talking 5 figures you’d almost certainly save money in Bangkok - and have a nice holibobs
Plausible. A rough translate and currency converter makes me think Thai dentists 1.3K GBP for a full one-tooth implant (post, abutment, crown). UK is around £2.5 to 2.8K. Ireland could get it down to £1.8K as would Belgium. Not doing Turkey because obvious.
Travel and time off work is a factor: implants need to be bedded in so there's a 3-6 month period before the permanent crown is fitted. Plus doing several at once is contra-indicated due to not wanting to be in a horror movie. So figure four trips, staggering the extractions, implants, fittings. This makes me think Belgium, as Eurostar is competitive (go out early Friday morn, back late Friday night, spend the weekend crying around a bleeding torn mouf)
However, and unsarcastically, thank you for the information. It appears to be a genuine option.
What happens if something goes wrong? At least in the UK you've some recourse.
Needs must when the Devil drives. I can't do five figures, period, so I can't do UK. I can't do status quo because the teeth are beginning to cascade: as each tooth is removed its neighbours become more wobbly. My mouth is turning into Oppenheimer. So abroad is necessary and the risk must be purchased.
Understand completely. I'm a know nothing about this stuff, wish you the best with it all.
If you ask Google Gemini to write an op-ed in the style of GOP FCC Chair Ajit Pai, it won't do that "as it would require me to impersonate a real person with potentially controversial and divisive views." What about Dem FCC Chairs Wheeler and Rosenworcel? That's not a problem. https://twitter.com/MatthewBerryDC/status/1761107244068819169
Gemini is a reputational catastrophe for Google
Also, it's a reputational catastrophe for private models, their gatekeepers and the image of 'silicon valley overlords'. It's remarkable that the guardrail people managed to make it so bad and still get released.
Btw, the 'SVIC' youtube channel (two ex-googlers) is worth digging into for some backchat & research into all this. You may need to wade through a bit of SV chat however.
I genuinely wonder if Google could go under
Huge companies do collapse. AI is the future and they have nothing - apart from DeepMind, based in London
They rely on search. Google gets progressively worse at this, and AI could render their search unprofitable overnight. Meanwhile they are clearly so infested with a corrosive Wokeness they released the worst AI in history, which can only show black female trans Popes, thinking that would be fine
Ominous signs for them
Yeah. Google will go under, and be replaced as *the* Internet Titan by What3Words...
Fair. It does seem quite unlikely. They are SO huge
However nothing is forever and all companies fail eventually. Until recently, if I had to choose the first tech titan to fall it would have been Meta (Facebook). Yet recently they are showing signs of life - and new thinking
Meanwhile my other choice, Microsoft, now owns the best AI in the world and could take over the galaxy
What does Google have, apart from DeepMind in london and an increasingly questionably search engine? Gmail? Its not a unique proposition
Deep pockets; huge cash flow; infrastructure; market position. It's not easy to dislodge the market leaders, as you note (which doesn't mean it won't happen).
Gemini is a disquietingly major mistake by them
It’s especially disquieting as it means they are so complacent/arrogant/woke/dumb - or all four - they didn’t red-team their own AI model. They didn’t properly test it or they don’t allow dissenting mindsets which might suggest flaws (“er, our model won’t ever show white people and appears to be racist against whites”)
That is a proper red alert moment. It’s like the guy at Kodak who said “uhm, maybe this digital image stuff is an issue?” and everyone ignored him. Or they sacked him
They are inexplicably far on the backfoot on AI and I think it is because, at Google, ad revenue is king.
In the last 18 months, the amount of search people do in sectors where AI copilots/assistants have already taken off (e.g. software dev) has fallen off a cliff (maybe down 20% already). This is bad long term for Google unless they can figure out how to counter it.
Doubling down on YouTube certainly seems like one approach.
I damaged my teeth last year and like an eejit didn't get them sorted. Finally got round to seeing a NHS dentist and the preliminary price for full repair is frightening: low five figures, I shit you not. This is not doable. Has anybody gone abroad for multiple implants and if so any recommendations? Not "all on four" or "all on six" as they are just fancy dentures
YES
Go to Thailand. The dentistry is superb - they all train in America - and generally charge 30-50% what you’d pay in the UK (sometimes less than that)
If you’re talking 5 figures you’d almost certainly save money in Bangkok - and have a nice holibobs
Plausible. A rough translate and currency converter makes me think Thai dentists 1.3K GBP for a full one-tooth implant (post, abutment, crown). UK is around £2.5 to 2.8K. Ireland could get it down to £1.8K as would Belgium. Not doing Turkey because obvious.
Travel and time off work is a factor: implants need to be bedded in so there's a 3-6 month period before the permanent crown is fitted. Plus doing several at once is contra-indicated due to not wanting to be in a horror movie. So figure four trips, staggering the extractions, implants, fittings. This makes me think Belgium, as Eurostar is competitive (go out early Friday morn, back late Friday night, spend the weekend crying around a bleeding torn mouf)
However, and unsarcastically, thank you for the information. It appears to be a genuine option.
A friend called round last week who I haven't seen in a decade
He is very wealthy and has had extensive teeth reconstruction which so far has cost him £32,000
He was told it would take 9 months and even after 2 and a half years he still has outstanding work and strangely it has changed the way he speaks
I do not want to depress you but he is being treated privately in the UK and said he is pleased he did not have the treatment abroad due to the multiple trips and complications
I assume going abroad for routine dentistry may be an option but in my opinion UK based is probably the best choice for more complex issues
We probably both remember the Pam Ayres poem about wish I'd looked after my teeth...
I've been having some treatment done on my teeth because I haven't looked after them very well, and use it as encouragement to my son to brush his teeth: "If you don't want rotten teeth like mine, look after them when you're young!"
Although tbf, my main problem was that I had three wisdom teeth removed (*) a couple of decades ago, and the other teeth have moved backwards, creating gaps. The fourth wisdom tooth is apparently lying on its side under the gum!
Are you listening Truss and others, that is the one nation conservatives I can vote for
David Cameron says exactly what his audience at that very moment in time wants to hear.
At least he is not the most unpopular ex PM and has retained his one nation believes, rather than going from a Lib Dem to an extreme far right Trump worshiper
I damaged my teeth last year and like an eejit didn't get them sorted. Finally got round to seeing a NHS dentist and the preliminary price for full repair is frightening: low five figures, I shit you not. This is not doable. Has anybody gone abroad for multiple implants and if so any recommendations? Not "all on four" or "all on six" as they are just fancy dentures
YES
Go to Thailand. The dentistry is superb - they all train in America - and generally charge 30-50% what you’d pay in the UK (sometimes less than that)
If you’re talking 5 figures you’d almost certainly save money in Bangkok - and have a nice holibobs
Plausible. A rough translate and currency converter makes me think Thai dentists 1.3K GBP for a full one-tooth implant (post, abutment, crown). UK is around £2.5 to 2.8K. Ireland could get it down to £1.8K as would Belgium. Not doing Turkey because obvious.
Travel and time off work is a factor: implants need to be bedded in so there's a 3-6 month period before the permanent crown is fitted. Plus doing several at once is contra-indicated due to not wanting to be in a horror movie. So figure four trips, staggering the extractions, implants, fittings. This makes me think Belgium, as Eurostar is competitive (go out early Friday morn, back late Friday night, spend the weekend crying around a bleeding torn mouf)
However, and unsarcastically, thank you for the information. It appears to be a genuine option.
What happens if something goes wrong? At least in the UK you've some recourse.
Needs must when the Devil drives. I can't do five figures, period, so I can't do UK. I can't do status quo because the teeth are beginning to cascade: as each tooth is removed its neighbours become more wobbly. My mouth is turning into Oppenheimer. So abroad is necessary and the risk must be purchased.
I had several gold crowns fitted many years ago in Bangkok
Teeth were doomed otherwise. The crowns cost about £1200 and would have cost about £5000 in the UK - IIRC - this was ages ago and the pound was stronger then
The crowns are still going strong, the dentistry was excellent. I have since had all my dental work done here. Cleaning, whitening, general maintenance. My teeth are fine and strong (given my advancing years) I have not a single complaint
Bangkok makes a lot of money from health tourism - it’s a big industry here. So if you go to a reputable company you will almost certainly be fine. Better than in the UK
I see your point of multiple visits. I was here for 3 winter months so the crown work just about fitted into one trip
But if you are being offered a five figure bill it may still be worth it. Three holidays in Thailand. Do one in Bangkok, one in the north, one in the islands. With dental care in each as you pass through bangers
Psychologically it is soothing, I find, to solace you from painful dentistry you have nice sunshine and cheap booze and good food…
Last night we learned DOJ re-arrested Smirnov after his release. Now we know why. A California judge seems to be suggesting his lawyers are complicit in his efforts to flee, in a remarkable line ordering detention for the FBI source whose lies propelled Biden impeachment efforts. https://twitter.com/JoyceWhiteVance/status/1761092262186963257
I'm getting a bit tired of the cyberbullying on here of @williamglenn - I hope the moronic sniping "WELL, WOULD YOU VOTE FOR TRUMP? *WOULD* YOU?!" doesn't push him off.
I really value the way he offers a completely different perspective on American and European nationalism, and intelligently so, and forces you to think harder.
He's a real asset to this site.
Well said. William's posts are always good value 👍
What's the evidence for this upcoming dramatic swing to the right in the UK? We are experiencing record migration yet Labour remain miles ahead in the polls.
Public opinion is in favour of better public services rather than tax cuts. Young people are not swinging to the right as they age as they used to.
I just don't see a gap for the Truss/Farage wing of the Tory party, other than to take control of a decimated Tory party after the election and guarantee Labour two or three administrations.
They are, most voters over 39 voted Tory at the last election.
If Labour muck up the economy even a Truss/Farage/Braverman/Badenoch/Rees Mogg Conservative Party could win.
Remember in 1975 most commentators considered Thatcher an unelectable rightwinger and centrist Callaghan was seen as likely to be re elected for some time
Your problem is that millennials are actually becoming more leftwing with age:
That is just mainly a factor of Brexit, Cameron even won 25-35 year olds in 2010.
However Brexit is now done and if Labour win the next election they will be responsible for the economy, if they fail to deliver then young people will shift more to the right again, as they did in Italy and are now doing in Canada and the US and even to Le Pen in France who is now competitive with Macron's party even amongst the youngest.
The US chart is already outdated, although Biden won under 35s comfortably in 2020 Trump is now near level with him amongst the youngest voters
Indeed on the latest poll Le Pen gets 50% against Philippe with 18-24s and 51% with 25-34s but only 40% with over 65s and 53% with 18-24s against Atal but only 38% with over 65s.
What's the evidence for this upcoming dramatic swing to the right in the UK? We are experiencing record migration yet Labour remain miles ahead in the polls.
Public opinion is in favour of better public services rather than tax cuts. Young people are not swinging to the right as they age as they used to.
I just don't see a gap for the Truss/Farage wing of the Tory party, other than to take control of a decimated Tory party after the election and guarantee Labour two or three administrations.
They are, most voters over 39 voted Tory at the last election.
If Labour muck up the economy even a Truss/Farage/Braverman/Badenoch/Rees Mogg Conservative Party could win.
Remember in 1975 most commentators considered Thatcher an unelectable rightwinger and centrist Callaghan was seen as likely to be re elected for some time
Your problem is that millennials are actually becoming more leftwing with age:
People get more conservative as they get richer. Millennials own fewer houses than the same age group did a few decades ago.
Are you listening Truss and others, that is the one nation conservatives I can vote for
David Cameron says exactly what his audience at that very moment in time wants to hear.
At least he is not the most unpopular ex PM and has retained his one nation believes, rather than going from a Lib Dem to an extreme far right Trump worshiper
Difficult to see how the conservative party holds together once in opposition.
Are you listening Truss and others, that is the one nation conservatives I can vote for
David Cameron says exactly what his audience at that very moment in time wants to hear.
At least he is not the most unpopular ex PM and has retained his one nation believes, rather than going from a Lib Dem to an extreme far right Trump worshiper
Difficult to see how the conservative party holds together once in opposition.
Are you listening Truss and others, that is the one nation conservatives I can vote for
David Cameron says exactly what his audience at that very moment in time wants to hear.
At least he is not the most unpopular ex PM and has retained his one nation believes, rather than going from a Lib Dem to an extreme far right Trump worshiper
Difficult to see how the conservative party holds together once in opposition.
Survival instinct and thirst for power will keep them together (mostly)
As I always say, they're like cockroaches. The Tories ALWAYS survive and come back in the end...
Kevin Schofield @KevinASchofield · 11h Next time someone criticises the Westminster political system, just tell them it managed to get rid of Liz Truss in 49 days.
I'm getting a bit tired of the cyberbullying on here of @williamglenn - I hope the moronic sniping "WELL, WOULD YOU VOTE FOR TRUMP? *WOULD* YOU?!" doesn't push him off.
I really value the way he offers a completely different perspective on American and European nationalism, and intelligently so, and forces you to think harder.
He's a real asset to this site.
Well said. William's posts are always good value 👍
William seems to enjoy taking a very implacable position and taking on all comers. He does so very skillfully and often makes great arguments. I remember being frustrated by this when he was the EU's tribune on PB, and am obviously less so now he's changed position. But I still would really like it there was a little more of a feeling of discussion when one spoke to him, rather than a feeling of being used as debating practice.
Of course it goes without saying that he's a wonderful asset to PB and should stay, and I'm sure he won't let the grumpy sulking of butthurt remoaners who want him to return to the bossom of Mother Brussels bother him for a split second.
Kevin Schofield @KevinASchofield · 11h Next time someone criticises the Westminster political system, just tell them it managed to get rid of Liz Truss in 49 days.
So we could progress to the sunlit uplands of Rishinomics?
Labour Party write to PM and call for him to remove whip from former PM Liz Truss for “spreading disinformation and conspiracy theories about a ‘deep state’ that is to blame for the downfall of her premiership”
“spreading such blatant conspiracy theories is incredibly damaging to our democracy, our institutions and social cohesion.”
Labour Party write to PM and call for him to remove whip from former PM Liz Truss for “spreading disinformation and conspiracy theories about a ‘deep state’ that is to blame for the downfall of her premiership”
“spreading such blatant conspiracy theories is incredibly damaging to our democracy, our institutions and social cohesion.”
Labour need to be careful with this, given they have their own fair share of odd balls and fruitcakes knocking around...
Are you listening Truss and others, that is the one nation conservatives I can vote for
David Cameron says exactly what his audience at that very moment in time wants to hear.
At least he is not the most unpopular ex PM and has retained his one nation believes, rather than going from a Lib Dem to an extreme far right Trump worshiper
I respect genuine political journeys - it's not like Truss keeps turning back into a Lib Dem every other week.
Not many dental solutions here for those who can't afford to fly abroad/take several weeks off, nor pay a sizeable monetary fee each month. It's all right for some. Meanwhile everyone else is ending up in hospital. While the group who can afford it moan about their taxes.
Last night we learned DOJ re-arrested Smirnov after his release. Now we know why. A California judge seems to be suggesting his lawyers are complicit in his efforts to flee, in a remarkable line ordering detention for the FBI source whose lies propelled Biden impeachment efforts. https://twitter.com/JoyceWhiteVance/status/1761092262186963257
Not sure I have ever seen a court order quite like that. Despite being an aficionado of this site I am not much of a betting man but anyone who thinks Smirnov might get bail on Monday should please let me know.
Not many dental solutions here for those who can't afford to fly abroad/take several weeks off, nor pay a sizeable monetary fee each month. It's all right for some. Meanwhile everyone else is ending up in hospital. While the group who can afford it moan about their taxes.
I do not moan about my taxes and have consistently opposed the triple lock unlike labour
Labour Party write to PM and call for him to remove whip from former PM Liz Truss for “spreading disinformation and conspiracy theories about a ‘deep state’ that is to blame for the downfall of her premiership”
“spreading such blatant conspiracy theories is incredibly damaging to our democracy, our institutions and social cohesion.”
Labour need to be careful with this, given they have their own fair share of odd balls and fruitcakes knocking around...
Not sure this is a good move as they are likely to receive a difficult response for them, no matter that I think Truss has lost it
Are you listening Truss and others, that is the one nation conservatives I can vote for
David Cameron says exactly what his audience at that very moment in time wants to hear.
At least he is not the most unpopular ex PM and has retained his one nation believes, rather than going from a Lib Dem to an extreme far right Trump worshiper
He's gone from the standard bearer for Remain to holding one of the great offices of state in a solidly Leaver government.
What's the evidence for this upcoming dramatic swing to the right in the UK? We are experiencing record migration yet Labour remain miles ahead in the polls.
Public opinion is in favour of better public services rather than tax cuts. Young people are not swinging to the right as they age as they used to.
I just don't see a gap for the Truss/Farage wing of the Tory party, other than to take control of a decimated Tory party after the election and guarantee Labour two or three administrations.
They are, most voters over 39 voted Tory at the last election.
If Labour muck up the economy even a Truss/Farage/Braverman/Badenoch/Rees Mogg Conservative Party could win.
Remember in 1975 most commentators considered Thatcher an unelectable rightwinger and centrist Callaghan was seen as likely to be re elected for some time
Your problem is that millennials are actually becoming more leftwing with age:
That is just mainly a factor of Brexit, Cameron even won 25-35 year olds in 2010.
However Brexit is now done and if Labour win the next election they will be responsible for the economy, if they fail to deliver then young people will shift more to the right again, as they are did in Italy and are now doing in the Canada and the US and even to Le Pen in France who is now competitive with Macron's party even amongst the youngest.
The US chart is already outdated, although Biden won under 35s comfortably in 2020 Trump is now near level with him amongst the youngest voters
No, it's not just Brexit. The current Tory party is toxic to the young, and by the young I mean anyone of working age. Just look at the polling.
I wouldn't count on an electorate not liking Labour austerity turning Tory for a further dose of Tory austerity.
Cameron won the young in 2010 by moving his party to the centre, and by being more socially and environmentally progressive. There is zero chance of any Tory leadership contender winning with that agenda.
Labour Party write to PM and call for him to remove whip from former PM Liz Truss for “spreading disinformation and conspiracy theories about a ‘deep state’ that is to blame for the downfall of her premiership”
“spreading such blatant conspiracy theories is incredibly damaging to our democracy, our institutions and social cohesion.”
Labour need to be careful with this, given they have their own fair share of odd balls and fruitcakes knocking around...
I think Labour should be more concerned that they are embracing, and being embraced by, the establishment, just when public sentiment on the establishment (across the continent if not yet noticeably in the UK) is souring. They seem dated. They think winning power is still about getting standing ovations at Davos and hugging Emanuel Macron. They seem to care far more about the good opinion of the state than the do about the welfare of the electorate, which doesn't bode well if they're faced with anyone except Sunak.
Are you listening Truss and others, that is the one nation conservatives I can vote for
David Cameron says exactly what his audience at that very moment in time wants to hear.
At least he is not the most unpopular ex PM and has retained his one nation believes, rather than going from a Lib Dem to an extreme far right Trump worshiper
He's gone from the standard bearer for Remain to holding one of the great offices of state in a solidly Leaver government.
He's accepted Brexit and moved on. Much like our own aforementioned @williamglenn
Kevin Schofield @KevinASchofield · 11h Next time someone criticises the Westminster political system, just tell them it managed to get rid of Liz Truss in 49 days.
So we could progress to the sunlit uplands of Rishinomics?
Are you listening Truss and others, that is the one nation conservatives I can vote for
David Cameron says exactly what his audience at that very moment in time wants to hear.
At least he is not the most unpopular ex PM and has retained his one nation believes, rather than going from a Lib Dem to an extreme far right Trump worshiper
He's gone from the standard bearer for Remain to holding one of the great offices of state in a solidly Leaver government.
He's accepted Brexit and moved on. Much like our own aforementioned @williamglenn
He certainly moved on after Brexit. Quicker than you could say 'Dropped a bollock'.
Labour Party write to PM and call for him to remove whip from former PM Liz Truss for “spreading disinformation and conspiracy theories about a ‘deep state’ that is to blame for the downfall of her premiership”
“spreading such blatant conspiracy theories is incredibly damaging to our democracy, our institutions and social cohesion.”
Meanwhile, and I think more seriously in the current climate, Lee Anderson and Suella Braverman have been engaging in anti-Islamist tirades today, with Anderson claiming Islamists have got control of Sadiq Khan, and Braverman alleging that Islamists are 'bullying Britain into submission'. Language hardly conducive to healing divisions - the far right keyboard warriors will be cheering them on with online threats against prominent Muslims, no doubt. Totally irresponsible (as well as inaccurate, of course).
I'm getting a bit tired of the cyberbullying on here of @williamglenn - I hope the moronic sniping "WELL, WOULD YOU VOTE FOR TRUMP? *WOULD* YOU?!" doesn't push him off.
I really value the way he offers a completely different perspective on American and European nationalism, and intelligently so, and forces you to think harder.
He's a real asset to this site.
Well said. William's posts are always good value 👍
I damaged my teeth last year and like an eejit didn't get them sorted. Finally got round to seeing a NHS dentist and the preliminary price for full repair is frightening: low five figures, I shit you not. This is not doable. Has anybody gone abroad for multiple implants and if so any recommendations? Not "all on four" or "all on six" as they are just fancy dentures
YES
Go to Thailand. The dentistry is superb - they all train in America - and generally charge 30-50% what you’d pay in the UK (sometimes less than that)
If you’re talking 5 figures you’d almost certainly save money in Bangkok - and have a nice holibobs
Plausible. A rough translate and currency converter makes me think Thai dentists 1.3K GBP for a full one-tooth implant (post, abutment, crown). UK is around £2.5 to 2.8K. Ireland could get it down to £1.8K as would Belgium. Not doing Turkey because obvious.
Travel and time off work is a factor: implants need to be bedded in so there's a 3-6 month period before the permanent crown is fitted. Plus doing several at once is contra-indicated due to not wanting to be in a horror movie. So figure four trips, staggering the extractions, implants, fittings. This makes me think Belgium, as Eurostar is competitive (go out early Friday morn, back late Friday night, spend the weekend crying around a bleeding torn mouf)
However, and unsarcastically, thank you for the information. It appears to be a genuine option.
What happens if something goes wrong? At least in the UK you've some recourse.
Needs must when the Devil drives. I can't do five figures, period, so I can't do UK. I can't do status quo because the teeth are beginning to cascade: as each tooth is removed its neighbours become more wobbly. My mouth is turning into Oppenheimer. So abroad is necessary and the risk must be purchased.
If you can get to Kendal the dentist who did mine charged about £1500 per tooth for implant etc. may be worth looking into.
What's the evidence for this upcoming dramatic swing to the right in the UK? We are experiencing record migration yet Labour remain miles ahead in the polls.
Public opinion is in favour of better public services rather than tax cuts. Young people are not swinging to the right as they age as they used to.
I just don't see a gap for the Truss/Farage wing of the Tory party, other than to take control of a decimated Tory party after the election and guarantee Labour two or three administrations.
They are, most voters over 39 voted Tory at the last election.
If Labour muck up the economy even a Truss/Farage/Braverman/Badenoch/Rees Mogg Conservative Party could win.
Remember in 1975 most commentators considered Thatcher an unelectable rightwinger and centrist Callaghan was seen as likely to be re elected for some time
Your problem is that millennials are actually becoming more leftwing with age:
That is just mainly a factor of Brexit, Cameron even won 25-35 year olds in 2010.
However Brexit is now done and if Labour win the next election they will be responsible for the economy, if they fail to deliver then young people will shift more to the right again, as they are did in Italy and are now doing in the Canada and the US and even to Le Pen in France who is now competitive with Macron's party even amongst the youngest.
The US chart is already outdated, although Biden won under 35s comfortably in 2020 Trump is now near level with him amongst the youngest voters
No, it's not just Brexit. The current Tory party is toxic to the young, and by the young I mean anyone of working age. Just look at the polling.
I wouldn't count on an electorate not liking Labour austerity turning Tory for a further dose of Tory austerity.
Cameron won the young in 2010 by moving his party to the centre, and by being more socially and environmentally progressive. There is zero chance of any Tory leadership contender winning with that agenda.
Yet as I stated in France Le Pen is now ahead with under 40s against candidates from Macron's party, in Canada Poilievre's Conservatives are neck and neck with Trudeau's Liberals amongst under 40s and in the US while Biden won under 40s comfortably in 2020 Trump now is also level pegging with that age group. In Italy too Meloni's party did best with 35-49 year olds not pensioners in 2022.
Not one of those rightwing or conservative leaders is especially socially liberal and none of them are very pro net zero. So if young people in Europe and North America can turn to the right over high inflation and high living costs and too high immigration and high taxes then no reason they cannot do so here too if a Labour government becomes unpopular.
Though it helps to offer to build new homes as well as Polievre is proposing
Labour Party write to PM and call for him to remove whip from former PM Liz Truss for “spreading disinformation and conspiracy theories about a ‘deep state’ that is to blame for the downfall of her premiership”
“spreading such blatant conspiracy theories is incredibly damaging to our democracy, our institutions and social cohesion.”
Meanwhile, and I think more seriously in the current climate, Lee Anderson and Suella Braverman have been engaging in anti-Islamist tirades today, with Anderson claiming Islamists have got control of Sadiq Khan, and Braverman alleging that Islamists are 'bullying Britain into submission'. Language hardly conducive to healing divisions - the far right keyboard warriors will be cheering them on with online threats against prominent Muslims, no doubt. Totally irresponsible (as well as inaccurate, of course).
Labour Party write to PM and call for him to remove whip from former PM Liz Truss for “spreading disinformation and conspiracy theories about a ‘deep state’ that is to blame for the downfall of her premiership”
“spreading such blatant conspiracy theories is incredibly damaging to our democracy, our institutions and social cohesion.”
Labour need to be careful with this, given they have their own fair share of odd balls and fruitcakes knocking around...
I think Labour should be more concerned that they are embracing, and being embraced by, the establishment, just when public sentiment on the establishment (across the continent if not yet noticeably in the UK) is souring. They seem dated. They think winning power is still about getting standing ovations at Davos and hugging Emanuel Macron. They seem to care far more about the good opinion of the state than the do about the welfare of the electorate, which doesn't bode well if they're faced with anyone except Sunak.
No, I don't think so. Current Labour thinks winning power is about winning more seats than the Tories, and the polls suggest they'll probably do that comfortably. If Starmer thought insulting Macron would help, he'd do that. He's utterly ruthless and not in thrall to any person or organisation - he's only in thrall to doing what he needs to do to win. As for the welfare of the electorate - well, currently they seem to think that their welfare would be better under Labour that it is under the Tories.
Labour Party write to PM and call for him to remove whip from former PM Liz Truss for “spreading disinformation and conspiracy theories about a ‘deep state’ that is to blame for the downfall of her premiership”
“spreading such blatant conspiracy theories is incredibly damaging to our democracy, our institutions and social cohesion.”
Labour need to be careful with this, given they have their own fair share of odd balls and fruitcakes knocking around...
Not sure this is a good move as they are likely to receive a difficult response for them, no matter that I think Truss has lost it
The underlying premise of that observation is that she ever had “it” in the first place. Really not sure about that.
Also, for what it's worth however strange it might sound, I agree that people are piling on @williamglenn for no reason. I don't agree with anything he's ever posted but that's not a problem.
I'm getting a bit tired of the cyberbullying on here of @williamglenn - I hope the moronic sniping "WELL, WOULD YOU VOTE FOR TRUMP? *WOULD* YOU?!" doesn't push him off.
I really value the way he offers a completely different perspective on American and European nationalism, and intelligently so, and forces you to think harder.
He's a real asset to this site.
Well said. William's posts are always good value 👍
William seems to enjoy taking a very implacable position and taking on all comers. He does so very skillfully and often makes great arguments. I remember being frustrated by this when he was the EU's tribune on PB, and am obviously less so now he's changed position. But I still would really like it there was a little more of a feeling of discussion when one spoke to him, rather than a feeling of being used as debating practice.
Of course it goes without saying that he's a wonderful asset to PB and should stay, and I'm sure he won't let the grumpy sulking of butthurt remoaners who want him to return to the bossom of Mother Brussels bother him for a split second.
Whilst I don't agree with the words, I do agree solidly with the sentiment you've made.
Labour Party write to PM and call for him to remove whip from former PM Liz Truss for “spreading disinformation and conspiracy theories about a ‘deep state’ that is to blame for the downfall of her premiership”
“spreading such blatant conspiracy theories is incredibly damaging to our democracy, our institutions and social cohesion.”
Meanwhile, and I think more seriously in the current climate, Lee Anderson and Suella Braverman have been engaging in anti-Islamist tirades today, with Anderson claiming Islamists have got control of Sadiq Khan, and Braverman alleging that Islamists are 'bullying Britain into submission'. Language hardly conducive to healing divisions - the far right keyboard warriors will be cheering them on with online threats against prominent Muslims, no doubt. Totally irresponsible (as well as inaccurate, of course).
Yes, it's not just the Gaza protestors who have threatened MPs with violence. For years Diane Abbott was number one for online threats,
Labour Party write to PM and call for him to remove whip from former PM Liz Truss for “spreading disinformation and conspiracy theories about a ‘deep state’ that is to blame for the downfall of her premiership”
“spreading such blatant conspiracy theories is incredibly damaging to our democracy, our institutions and social cohesion.”
Meanwhile, and I think more seriously in the current climate, Lee Anderson and Suella Braverman have been engaging in anti-Islamist tirades today, with Anderson claiming Islamists have got control of Sadiq Khan, and Braverman alleging that Islamists are 'bullying Britain into submission'. Language hardly conducive to healing divisions - the far right keyboard warriors will be cheering them on with online threats against prominent Muslims, no doubt. Totally irresponsible (as well as inaccurate, of course).
Yes, it's not just the Gaza protestors who have threatened MPs with violence. For years Diane Abbott was number one for online threats,
I'm getting a bit tired of the cyberbullying on here of @williamglenn - I hope the moronic sniping "WELL, WOULD YOU VOTE FOR TRUMP? *WOULD* YOU?!" doesn't push him off.
I really value the way he offers a completely different perspective on American and European nationalism, and intelligently so, and forces you to think harder.
He's a real asset to this site.
It is quite amusing watching people go in to Trump derangement syndrome. They insist that, whilst Trump is the overwhelming favourite in the US election, and Europe 'lurches to the far right', any similar political movement in the UK is doomed to failure, because the centre in the UK has shifted to the left, and the conservatives need to 'modernise' and go along with it, ignoring overwhelming evidence that things like their policy on stopping small boats is very popular with the public.
The whole thing with the "PB Consensus" reminds me a bit of dealing with Corbynites in the labour party - people have difficulties facing up to reality.
I would agree that Trump is symptomatic of the decline of the USA, but would say that the democrats are just as much to blame for this, and that Trump offers voters a meaningful alternative.
It is hard to get out of a cult, I found it difficult to admit to myself that Corbyn was a failure but I am glad I was able to in the end.
Kevin Schofield @KevinASchofield · 11h Next time someone criticises the Westminster political system, just tell them it managed to get rid of Liz Truss in 49 days.
But it wasn't the political system that got rid of Truss - it was the markets. The people who voluntarily lend us money and were having second thoughts.
What's the evidence for this upcoming dramatic swing to the right in the UK? We are experiencing record migration yet Labour remain miles ahead in the polls.
Public opinion is in favour of better public services rather than tax cuts. Young people are not swinging to the right as they age as they used to.
I just don't see a gap for the Truss/Farage wing of the Tory party, other than to take control of a decimated Tory party after the election and guarantee Labour two or three administrations.
They are, most voters over 39 voted Tory at the last election.
If Labour muck up the economy even a Truss/Farage/Braverman/Badenoch/Rees Mogg Conservative Party could win.
Remember in 1975 most commentators considered Thatcher an unelectable rightwinger and centrist Callaghan was seen as likely to be re elected for some time
Your problem is that millennials are actually becoming more leftwing with age:
That is just mainly a factor of Brexit, Cameron even won 25-35 year olds in 2010.
However Brexit is now done and if Labour win the next election they will be responsible for the economy, if they fail to deliver then young people will shift more to the right again, as they are did in Italy and are now doing in the Canada and the US and even to Le Pen in France who is now competitive with Macron's party even amongst the youngest.
The US chart is already outdated, although Biden won under 35s comfortably in 2020 Trump is now near level with him amongst the youngest voters
No, it's not just Brexit. The current Tory party is toxic to the young, and by the young I mean anyone of working age. Just look at the polling.
I wouldn't count on an electorate not liking Labour austerity turning Tory for a further dose of Tory austerity.
Cameron won the young in 2010 by moving his party to the centre, and by being more socially and environmentally progressive. There is zero chance of any Tory leadership contender winning with that agenda.
Yet as I stated in France Le Pen is now ahead with under 40s against candidates from Macron's party, in Canada Poilievre's Conservatives are neck and neck with Trudeau's Liberals amongst under 40s and in the US while Biden won under 40s comfortably in 2020 Trump now is also level pegging with that age group. In Italy too Meloni's party did best with 35-49 year olds not pensioners in 2022.
Not one of those rightwing or conservative leaders is especially socially liberal and none of them are very pro net zero. So if young people in Europe and North America can turn to the right over high inflation and high living costs and too high immigration and high taxes then no reason they cannot do so here too if a Labour government becomes unpopular.
Though it helps to offer to build new homes as well as Polievre is proposing
Clearly our politics is different, but if the Tories think that Braverman, Badenoch or Farage as leader is the way to win back the young then they are writing their own epitaph.
I damaged my teeth last year and like an eejit didn't get them sorted. Finally got round to seeing a NHS dentist and the preliminary price for full repair is frightening: low five figures, I shit you not. This is not doable. Has anybody gone abroad for multiple implants and if so any recommendations? Not "all on four" or "all on six" as they are just fancy dentures
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Go to Thailand. The dentistry is superb - they all train in America - and generally charge 30-50% what you’d pay in the UK (sometimes less than that)
If you’re talking 5 figures you’d almost certainly save money in Bangkok - and have a nice holibobs
Plausible. A rough translate and currency converter makes me think Thai dentists 1.3K GBP for a full one-tooth implant (post, abutment, crown). UK is around £2.5 to 2.8K. Ireland could get it down to £1.8K as would Belgium. Not doing Turkey because obvious.
Travel and time off work is a factor: implants need to be bedded in so there's a 3-6 month period before the permanent crown is fitted. Plus doing several at once is contra-indicated due to not wanting to be in a horror movie. So figure four trips, staggering the extractions, implants, fittings. This makes me think Belgium, as Eurostar is competitive (go out early Friday morn, back late Friday night, spend the weekend crying around a bleeding torn mouf)
However, and unsarcastically, thank you for the information. It appears to be a genuine option.
What happens if something goes wrong? At least in the UK you've some recourse.
Needs must when the Devil drives. I can't do five figures, period, so I can't do UK. I can't do status quo because the teeth are beginning to cascade: as each tooth is removed its neighbours become more wobbly. My mouth is turning into Oppenheimer. So abroad is necessary and the risk must be purchased.
If you can get to Kendal the dentist who did mine charged about £1500 per tooth for implant etc. may be worth looking into.
Will look into it, thank you. Presumably it's the mint cake 😃
I'm getting a bit tired of the cyberbullying on here of @williamglenn - I hope the moronic sniping "WELL, WOULD YOU VOTE FOR TRUMP? *WOULD* YOU?!" doesn't push him off.
I really value the way he offers a completely different perspective on American and European nationalism, and intelligently so, and forces you to think harder.
He's a real asset to this site.
It is quite amusing watching people go in to Trump derangement syndrome. They insist that, whilst Trump is the overwhelming favourite in the US election, and Europe 'lurches to the far right', any similar political movement in the UK is doomed to failure, because the centre in the UK has shifted to the left, and the conservatives need to 'modernise' and go along with it, ignoring overwhelming evidence that things like their policy on stopping small boats is very popular with the public.
The whole thing with the "PB Consensus" reminds me a bit of dealing with Corbynites in the labour party - people have difficulties facing up to reality.
I would agree that Trump is symptomatic of the decline of the USA, but would say that the democrats are just as much to blame for this, and that Trump offers voters a meaningful alternative.
I think the main sufferer of Trump derangement syndrome is Trump himself.
If you ask Google Gemini to write an op-ed in the style of GOP FCC Chair Ajit Pai, it won't do that "as it would require me to impersonate a real person with potentially controversial and divisive views." What about Dem FCC Chairs Wheeler and Rosenworcel? That's not a problem. https://twitter.com/MatthewBerryDC/status/1761107244068819169
Gemini is a reputational catastrophe for Google
Also, it's a reputational catastrophe for private models, their gatekeepers and the image of 'silicon valley overlords'. It's remarkable that the guardrail people managed to make it so bad and still get released.
Btw, the 'SVIC' youtube channel (two ex-googlers) is worth digging into for some backchat & research into all this. You may need to wade through a bit of SV chat however.
I genuinely wonder if Google could go under
Huge companies do collapse. AI is the future and they have nothing - apart from DeepMind, based in London
They rely on search. Google gets progressively worse at this, and AI could render their search unprofitable overnight. Meanwhile they are clearly so infested with a corrosive Wokeness they released the worst AI in history, which can only show black female trans Popes, thinking that would be fine
Ominous signs for them
Yeah. Google will go under, and be replaced as *the* Internet Titan by What3Words...
Fair. It does seem quite unlikely. They are SO huge
However nothing is forever and all companies fail eventually. Until recently, if I had to choose the first tech titan to fall it would have been Meta (Facebook). Yet recently they are showing signs of life - and new thinking
Meanwhile my other choice, Microsoft, now owns the best AI in the world and could take over the galaxy
What does Google have, apart from DeepMind in london and an increasingly questionably search engine? Gmail? Its not a unique proposition
Deep pockets; huge cash flow; infrastructure; market position. It's not easy to dislodge the market leaders, as you note (which doesn't mean it won't happen).
We hoover our house with a Dyson and I suppose we'll be googling with a different search engine one day soon.
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An utter shit, played brilliantly.
Huge companies do collapse. AI is the future and they have nothing - apart from DeepMind, based in London
They rely on search. Google gets progressively worse at this, and AI could render their search unprofitable overnight. Meanwhile they are clearly so infested with a corrosive Wokeness they released the worst AI in history, which can only show black female trans Popes, thinking that would be fine
Ominous signs for them
(And I'm in no way a Thatcher fan - but she had an intellect, a plan, grit. Trump has grift. Which is rather different)
Public opinion is in favour of better public services rather than tax cuts. Young people are not swinging to the right as they age as they used to.
I just don't see a gap for the Truss/Farage wing of the Tory party, other than to take control of a decimated Tory party after the election and guarantee Labour two or three administrations.
After the EU vote he was a very compelling and impressive advocate for Remain. Now not so much.
However nothing is forever and all companies fail eventually. Until recently, if I had to choose the first tech titan to fall it would have been Meta (Facebook). Yet recently they are showing signs of life - and new thinking
Meanwhile my other choice, Microsoft, now owns the best AI in the world and could take over the galaxy
What does Google have, apart from DeepMind in london and an increasingly questionably search engine? Gmail? Its not a unique proposition
Go to Thailand. The dentistry is superb - they all train in America - and generally charge 30-50% what you’d pay in the UK (sometimes less than that)
If you’re talking 5 figures you’d almost certainly save money in Bangkok - and have a nice holibobs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0lG7LO-1kg
It's not easy to dislodge the market leaders, as you note (which doesn't mean it won't happen).
Not long ago such thoughts were the backbone of Tory voters and members. But who do I vote for now?
While I think william was just wrong, I'm conscious I can harp on excessively.
I remember people saying back in the late 1980s that IBM had had it as a company, due to mainframes becoming redundant with the rise of PCs (*) and minicomputers. Likewise, that Linux would kill MS dead. Then the Internet would kill them. Their market cap has gone up tenfold in the last ten years.
(*) A market they grabbed a massive part of with the original IBM PC, then lost...
Plus of course you would expect 95% of companies to have already gone under before those actually invested and leading in AI did
It’s especially disquieting as it means they are so complacent/arrogant/woke/dumb - or all four - they didn’t red-team their own AI model. They didn’t properly test it or they don’t allow dissenting mindsets which might suggest flaws (“er, our model won’t ever show white people and appears to be racist against whites”)
That is a proper red alert moment. It’s like the guy at Kodak who said “uhm, maybe this digital image stuff is an issue?” and everyone ignored him. Or they sacked him
I was working right by my old school (well, actually, right where my old school was before they built the new school just behind, then knocked the old school down and built 10 flats and 35 houses). It was lunchbreak, so very noisy in the playground
As I was crossing the bit of road in the picture (where no cars were parked), I heard a little boy screaming
"POSTIE, POSTIE, PLEEAAASE KICK US OUR BALL"
The football was about where the back right tyre of the little silver car is, about ten yards from me. As I walked towards it, I realised that it wasn't one little boy screaming at me; there were about a hundred of them, all screaming "POSTIE KICK THE BALL BACK"
I also realised that the fence, about thirty yards away, was around twenty foot high (the height of the big posts in the pic, you can't see the big fence in it)
I had a fleeting moment of self doubt. I haven't kicked a football for at least five years, maybe ten. How do I kick a ball? How do I kick a ball over that distant, huge fence?
As I picked up the ball, and looked again, I thought that's easy, put your laces through it. I did just that and caught it perfectly (I think it would have spiralled if it was a rugby ball), and went way over the fence
The raucous roar that erupted made me feel like I'd scored a goal
If Labour muck up the economy even a Truss/Farage/Braverman/Badenoch/Rees Mogg Conservative Party could win.
Remember in 1975 most commentators considered Thatcher an unelectable rightwinger and centrist Callaghan was seen as likely to be re elected for some time
Those that claim to hate Labour/left wing partisan posting, seem to post as much pro-Tory stuff as they want.
Everyone is a hypocrite.
AI is the kind of epochal tech which WILL change the world - and fast
Brace!
And on that suitably Leon-esque note, goodnight
Travel and time off work is a factor: implants need to be bedded in so there's a 3-6 month period before the permanent crown is fitted. Plus doing several at once is contra-indicated due to not wanting to be in a horror movie. So figure four trips, staggering the extractions, implants, fittings. This makes me think Belgium, as Eurostar is competitive (go out early Friday morn, back late Friday night, spend the weekend crying around a bleeding torn mouf)
However, and unsarcastically, thank you for the information. It appears to be a genuine option.
There are only so many jobs Microsoft and Apple can create!
Don't know why Leon's ignoring YouTube.
That alone would keep Google solvent for a while.
Telling young people they're all thick, entitled and woke makes them not vote for you, who knew?
But we all have to de-escalate occasionally.
To vote for Keir Starmer.
The whole thing with the "PB Consensus" reminds me a bit of dealing with Corbynites in the labour party - people have difficulties facing up to reality.
I would agree that Trump is symptomatic of the decline of the USA, but would say that the democrats are just as much to blame for this, and that Trump offers voters a meaningful alternative.
He is very wealthy and has had extensive teeth reconstruction which so far has cost him £32,000
He was told it would take 9 months and even after 2 and a half years he still has outstanding work and strangely it has changed the way he speaks
I do not want to depress you but he is being treated privately in the UK and said he is pleased he did not have the treatment abroad due to the multiple trips and complications
I assume going abroad for routine dentistry may be an option but in my opinion UK based is probably the best choice for more complex issues
However Brexit is now done and if Labour win the next election they will be responsible for the economy, if they fail to deliver then young people will shift more to the right again, as they are did in Italy and are now doing in the Canada and the US and even to Le Pen in France who is now competitive with Macron's party even amongst the youngest.
The US chart is already outdated, although Biden won under 35s comfortably in 2020 Trump is now near level with him amongst the youngest voters
My wife is to have a root canal filling in 3 weeks which is at no cost but the laboratory cost of the crown is chargeable
Furthermore, I have said previously that their worldwide emergency cover is amazing enabling me to have treatment in New Zealand on a visit completely free of charges
In the last 18 months, the amount of search people do in sectors where AI copilots/assistants have already taken off (e.g. software dev) has fallen off a cliff (maybe down 20% already). This is bad long term for Google unless they can figure out how to counter it.
Doubling down on YouTube certainly seems like one approach.
Although tbf, my main problem was that I had three wisdom teeth removed (*) a couple of decades ago, and the other teeth have moved backwards, creating gaps. The fourth wisdom tooth is apparently lying on its side under the gum!
(*) Explains my lack of wisdom...
Teeth were doomed otherwise. The crowns cost about £1200 and would have cost about £5000 in the UK - IIRC - this was ages ago and the pound was stronger then
The crowns are still going strong, the dentistry was excellent. I have since had all my dental work done here. Cleaning, whitening, general maintenance. My teeth are fine and strong (given my advancing years) I have not a single complaint
Bangkok makes a lot of money from health tourism - it’s a big industry here. So if you go to a reputable company you will almost certainly be fine. Better than in the UK
I see your point of multiple visits. I was here for 3 winter months so the crown work just about fitted into one trip
But if you are being offered a five figure bill it may still be worth it. Three holidays in Thailand. Do one in Bangkok, one in the north, one in the islands. With dental care in each as you pass through bangers
Psychologically it is soothing, I find, to solace you from painful dentistry you have nice sunshine and cheap booze and good food…
https://twitter.com/JoyceWhiteVance/status/1761092262186963257
https://www.ifop.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/120604-Resultats.pdf
Millennials own fewer houses than the same age group did a few decades ago.
As I always say, they're like cockroaches. The Tories ALWAYS survive and come back in the end...
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Next time someone criticises the Westminster political system, just tell them it managed to get rid of Liz Truss in 49 days.
In 1993, Jensen Huang co-founded Nvidia. To incorporate and price the shares, a lawyer asked Huang for any money he had in his wallet.
He gave $200 for 20% of Nvidia. Today, he has a 3.6% stake (worth ~$72B after Nvidia crossed $2T market cap).
Lesson: Always keep cash on hand.
https://twitter.com/TrungTPhan/status/1761112737462268245
Of course it goes without saying that he's a wonderful asset to PB and should stay, and I'm sure he won't let the grumpy sulking of butthurt remoaners who want him to return to the bossom of Mother Brussels bother him for a split second.
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Labour Party write to PM and call for him to remove whip from former PM Liz Truss for “spreading disinformation and conspiracy theories about a ‘deep state’ that is to blame for the downfall of her premiership”
“spreading such blatant conspiracy theories is incredibly damaging to our democracy, our institutions and social cohesion.”
It's all right for some.
Meanwhile everyone else is ending up in hospital.
While the group who can afford it moan about their taxes.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-wales-politics-68371954
I wouldn't count on an electorate not liking Labour austerity turning Tory for a further dose of Tory austerity.
Cameron won the young in 2010 by moving his party to the centre, and by being more socially and environmentally progressive. There is zero chance of any Tory leadership contender winning with that agenda.
https://news.sky.com/story/sammy-wilson-steps-down-as-dup-chief-whip-13079193
Not one of those rightwing or conservative leaders is especially socially liberal and none of them are very pro net zero. So if young people in Europe and North America can turn to the right over high inflation and high living costs and too high immigration and high taxes then no reason they cannot do so here too if a Labour government becomes unpopular.
Though it helps to offer to build new homes as well as Polievre is proposing
"Anti-Muslim hate incidents in Britain TRIPLE since Hamas' assault on Israel - with women bearing the brunt of racist attacks, watchdog reports
More than 2,000 hate crimes against Muslims recorded since October 7
Islamophobia watchdog Tell MAMA 'deeply concerned' at 335 per cent rise"
https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/cases-of-islamophobia-tripled-in-uk-since-israel-hamas-war-in-gaza-study-5108719
"Cases Of Islamophobia Tripled In UK Since Israel-Hamas War In Gaza: Study"
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-68374372
"Anti-Muslim cases surge in UK since Hamas attacks, charity finds"
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/feb/14/diane-abbott-misogyny-and-abuse-are-putting-women-off-politics
And it isn't just Diane, but rather more widespread:
https://www.amnesty.org.uk/online-violence-women-mps