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  • SelebianSelebian Posts: 7,096
    Lay the Biden/Trump combo? Maybe - how long until the nominees are set?

    I'm already exposed enough on a second Trump presidency, so I don't think I'll go for it. Green either way on Biden after backing ages ago and trading out (but I traded out far too early as I got cold feet on that :disappointed: ) Trump wins presidency, I lose. Otherwise I'm good. But then, Trump wins presidency and we all lose. I won't really care that much about the bet if that happens.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 54,695

    I feel like if you've got any spare money to put into this race it should all be hard at work laying Michelle Obama and backing Kamala Harris.

    Surely there's still some value in a couple of quid on KLOBUCHAR this time, as well?
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 38,473
    Selebian said:

    Lay the Biden/Trump combo? Maybe - how long until the nominees are set?

    I'm already exposed enough on a second Trump presidency, so I don't think I'll go for it. Green either way on Biden after backing ages ago and trading out (but I traded out far too early as I got cold feet on that :disappointed: ) Trump wins presidency, I lose. Otherwise I'm good. But then, Trump wins presidency and we all lose. I won't really care that much about the bet if that happens.

    Similar here. Big short on Trump, every other feasible outcome is green. I actually think he's a value sell now (2.2) but I'm resisting doing any more for discipline reasons. Least for the moment.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 75,674
    edited February 2
    Dreamt that Biden vs Trump instead of votes came down to a game of American Football... Was 0-0 when I woke up but team Trump had just fluffed a field goal.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 44,916
    edited February 2
    FPT for @turbotubbs on my picture quiz

    This one. Why is it infamous etc







    The answer is far more freaky than me hiring a ladyboy. It actually made me wince when I heard it. Yes, that bad
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 38,473
    Pulpstar said:

    Dreamt that Biden vs Trump instead of votes came down to a game of American Football... Was 0-0 when I woke up but team Trump had just fluffed a field goal.

    That's a bad omen. Trump cheats at golf so he'd be sure to cheat at American Football.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 54,695
    FPT - I'd have thought, at this stage, Alan Bates can basically name his price.

    I'm sure, being the sort of guy he is, that once he's got it he will take a modest amount for himself and use the rest to help others and his community.

    He just doesn't want to be taken for a fool.
  • GhedebravGhedebrav Posts: 2,924
    Have we done Danczuk standing for Reform?

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2024/feb/01/ex-mp-simon-danczuk-suspended-for-sexting-to-fight-byelection-for-reform

    Washed up old perv AND Gorgeous standing; what have the poor folk of Rochdale done to deserve this??
  • SelebianSelebian Posts: 7,096
    kinabalu said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Dreamt that Biden vs Trump instead of votes came down to a game of American Football... Was 0-0 when I woke up but team Trump had just fluffed a field goal.

    That's a bad omen. Trump cheats at golf so he'd be sure to cheat at American Football.
    Trump running/waddling into Biden would not end well for Biden, I think :cry:
  • LeonLeon Posts: 44,916

    FPT - I'd have thought, at this stage, Alan Bates can basically name his price.

    I'm sure, being the sort of guy he is, that once he's got it he will take a modest amount for himself and use the rest to help others and his community.

    He just doesn't want to be taken for a fool.

    It would be interesting to know the sums involved
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 42,832
    Leon said:

    FPT - I'd have thought, at this stage, Alan Bates can basically name his price.

    I'm sure, being the sort of guy he is, that once he's got it he will take a modest amount for himself and use the rest to help others and his community.

    He just doesn't want to be taken for a fool.

    It would be interesting to know the sums involved
    It's good to see that the attitude to compensation is still honouring the traditions of Aberfan.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 42,832
    edited February 2
    Leon said:

    FPT - I'd have thought, at this stage, Alan Bates can basically name his price.

    I'm sure, being the sort of guy he is, that once he's got it he will take a modest amount for himself and use the rest to help others and his community.

    He just doesn't want to be taken for a fool.

    It would be interesting to know the sums involved
    Given him and the other SPMs a total of 60% of the Post Office shares, to divide between them.

    We need new management - perhaps time for domain expert management?
  • Ghedebrav said:

    Have we done Danczuk standing for Reform?

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2024/feb/01/ex-mp-simon-danczuk-suspended-for-sexting-to-fight-byelection-for-reform

    Washed up old perv AND Gorgeous standing; what have the poor folk of Rochdale done to deserve this??

    Yeah, posted it last night. Rochdale is a classic left behind town, and it has had some seriously dodgy representatives in the past. Most eastern Lancashire towns suffer from zonal planning - Rochdale even labels them "townships". Which means it has been a lodestone for racist nutjobs of various descriptions in the past.

    Happily in comes gorgeous to whip racial tensions hard for votes.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 44,916

    Leon said:

    FPT - I'd have thought, at this stage, Alan Bates can basically name his price.

    I'm sure, being the sort of guy he is, that once he's got it he will take a modest amount for himself and use the rest to help others and his community.

    He just doesn't want to be taken for a fool.

    It would be interesting to know the sums involved
    It's good to see that the attitude to compensation is still honouring the traditions of Aberfan.
    Wait, have I said they're being overgenerous? Or mean? Or anything?

    I merely observe it would be interesting to see what they've offered, and what he sees as apposite. He is claiming the sums are derisory, less than a quarter of what it should be, and I confess - after all the terrible publicity - I am surprised by this, is HMG contriving to screw it all up, all over again, by being mean and stupid?

  • Northern_AlNorthern_Al Posts: 7,356
    Ghedebrav said:

    Have we done Danczuk standing for Reform?

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2024/feb/01/ex-mp-simon-danczuk-suspended-for-sexting-to-fight-byelection-for-reform

    Washed up old perv AND Gorgeous standing; what have the poor folk of Rochdale done to deserve this??

    It's a pity their former MP, Cyril Smith, isn't still around to widen the choice even further.
  • StuartinromfordStuartinromford Posts: 13,743
    Ghedebrav said:

    Have we done Danczuk standing for Reform?

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2024/feb/01/ex-mp-simon-danczuk-suspended-for-sexting-to-fight-byelection-for-reform

    Washed up old perv AND Gorgeous standing; what have the poor folk of Rochdale done to deserve this??

    Wasn't that Cyril Smith's stomping ground a few decades back?

    Some constituencies (Peterborough springs to mind) really do get all the luck.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 43,514
    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    FPT - I'd have thought, at this stage, Alan Bates can basically name his price.

    I'm sure, being the sort of guy he is, that once he's got it he will take a modest amount for himself and use the rest to help others and his community.

    He just doesn't want to be taken for a fool.

    It would be interesting to know the sums involved
    It's good to see that the attitude to compensation is still honouring the traditions of Aberfan.
    Wait, have I said they're being overgenerous? Or mean? Or anything?

    I merely observe it would be interesting to see what they've offered, and what he sees as apposite. He is claiming the sums are derisory, less than a quarter of what it should be, and I confess - after all the terrible publicity - I am surprised by this, is HMG contriving to screw it all up, all over again, by being mean and stupid?

    I suspect that Bates is not an easy guy to deal with, and we know he is meticulous with his records. That is why we have heard of him, while so many were browbeaten by the system.

    He isn't going to give in easily now.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 42,832
    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    FPT - I'd have thought, at this stage, Alan Bates can basically name his price.

    I'm sure, being the sort of guy he is, that once he's got it he will take a modest amount for himself and use the rest to help others and his community.

    He just doesn't want to be taken for a fool.

    It would be interesting to know the sums involved
    It's good to see that the attitude to compensation is still honouring the traditions of Aberfan.
    Wait, have I said they're being overgenerous? Or mean? Or anything?

    I merely observe it would be interesting to see what they've offered, and what he sees as apposite. He is claiming the sums are derisory, less than a quarter of what it should be, and I confess - after all the terrible publicity - I am surprised by this, is HMG contriving to screw it all up, all over again, by being mean and stupid?

    I am referring to the traditional policy of haggling over small sums for compensation to serious matters - such as people being in prison for decades, unjustly, for instance.

    The way that hundred of thousands are handed over for HR type disputes, in court, just adds salt to that wound.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 75,674
    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    FPT - I'd have thought, at this stage, Alan Bates can basically name his price.

    I'm sure, being the sort of guy he is, that once he's got it he will take a modest amount for himself and use the rest to help others and his community.

    He just doesn't want to be taken for a fool.

    It would be interesting to know the sums involved
    It's good to see that the attitude to compensation is still honouring the traditions of Aberfan.
    Wait, have I said they're being overgenerous? Or mean? Or anything?

    I merely observe it would be interesting to see what they've offered, and what he sees as apposite. He is claiming the sums are derisory, less than a quarter of what it should be, and I confess - after all the terrible publicity - I am surprised by this, is HMG contriving to screw it all up, all over again, by being mean and stupid?

    Was running with a friend of mine who is one of those affected (Shortfall in his case, no convictions). He's still waiting for his money, I commented if this was in America he'd be sitting on millions of compo for sure by now.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 44,916
    Extraordinary, if true. The total pathetic decadence of our politicians


    "Newsnight asked (Labour MP) Bell Ribeiro-Addy and (Tory MP) Caroline Nokes about the fact the alkali attacker was granted asylum on his 3rd attempt after a sexual assault conviction

    BRA: "His asylum status is not really the issue of concern"

    CN: "I think it's wrong to comment on that""


    WHY IS IT WRONG TO COMMENT ON THAT. HOW CAN HIS ASYLUM STATUS AND CRIMINAL RECORD NOT BE AN ISSUE OF CONCERN

    These people make me want to puke

    https://x.com/christiancalgie/status/1753320770468495775?s=20
  • LeonLeon Posts: 44,916
    I have formally decided the answer to my picture quiz is so OMG and EWWWW it will have to wait until I've had three martinis, in about three hours

    Sorry
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 25,130
    Leon said:

    Extraordinary, if true. The total pathetic decadence of our politicians


    "Newsnight asked (Labour MP) Bell Ribeiro-Addy and (Tory MP) Caroline Nokes about the fact the alkali attacker was granted asylum on his 3rd attempt after a sexual assault conviction

    BRA: "His asylum status is not really the issue of concern"

    CN: "I think it's wrong to comment on that""


    WHY IS IT WRONG TO COMMENT ON THAT. HOW CAN HIS ASYLUM STATUS AND CRIMINAL RECORD NOT BE AN ISSUE OF CONCERN

    These people make me want to puke

    https://x.com/christiancalgie/status/1753320770468495775?s=20

    Have you been guilty of a microaggression? If so, it's a slippery slope and you soon could be chucking a corrosive substance at women and children:

    https://twitter.com/BBCNewsnight/status/1753192152832614853
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 14,619
    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    FPT - I'd have thought, at this stage, Alan Bates can basically name his price.

    I'm sure, being the sort of guy he is, that once he's got it he will take a modest amount for himself and use the rest to help others and his community.

    He just doesn't want to be taken for a fool.

    It would be interesting to know the sums involved
    It's good to see that the attitude to compensation is still honouring the traditions of Aberfan.
    Wait, have I said they're being overgenerous? Or mean? Or anything?

    I merely observe it would be interesting to see what they've offered, and what he sees as apposite. He is claiming the sums are derisory, less than a quarter of what it should be, and I confess - after all the terrible publicity - I am surprised by this, is HMG contriving to screw it all up, all over again, by being mean and stupid?

    Lets say you have been wrongly sacked from your flint knapping job 15 years ago. Lets say the salary was 40K per year, so directly you have a claim for 600K. Then add in the legal fees fighting this. Who knows how big the amount should be? I suspect that the bean counters are trying to pay as little as possible and are totally misjudging the public mood. Yet again.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 42,832
    Pulpstar said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    FPT - I'd have thought, at this stage, Alan Bates can basically name his price.

    I'm sure, being the sort of guy he is, that once he's got it he will take a modest amount for himself and use the rest to help others and his community.

    He just doesn't want to be taken for a fool.

    It would be interesting to know the sums involved
    It's good to see that the attitude to compensation is still honouring the traditions of Aberfan.
    Wait, have I said they're being overgenerous? Or mean? Or anything?

    I merely observe it would be interesting to see what they've offered, and what he sees as apposite. He is claiming the sums are derisory, less than a quarter of what it should be, and I confess - after all the terrible publicity - I am surprised by this, is HMG contriving to screw it all up, all over again, by being mean and stupid?

    Was running with a friend of mine who is one of those affected (Shortfall in his case, no convictions). He's still waiting for his money, I commented if this was in America he'd be sitting on millions of compo for sure by now.
    He would have got a massive award.

    And would be looking at decades of court cases to reduce it, and it wouldn't get paid because {insert reasons here}
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 75,674
    Leon said:

    Extraordinary, if true. The total pathetic decadence of our politicians


    "Newsnight asked (Labour MP) Bell Ribeiro-Addy and (Tory MP) Caroline Nokes about the fact the alkali attacker was granted asylum on his 3rd attempt after a sexual assault conviction

    BRA: "His asylum status is not really the issue of concern"

    CN: "I think it's wrong to comment on that""


    WHY IS IT WRONG TO COMMENT ON THAT. HOW CAN HIS ASYLUM STATUS AND CRIMINAL RECORD NOT BE AN ISSUE OF CONCERN

    These people make me want to puke

    https://x.com/christiancalgie/status/1753320770468495775?s=20

    If someone's come from an oppressive regime then that trumps absolutely everything else, ever. It's regarded pretty much as a law of physics for those in the system.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 42,832
    tlg86 said:

    Leon said:

    Extraordinary, if true. The total pathetic decadence of our politicians


    "Newsnight asked (Labour MP) Bell Ribeiro-Addy and (Tory MP) Caroline Nokes about the fact the alkali attacker was granted asylum on his 3rd attempt after a sexual assault conviction

    BRA: "His asylum status is not really the issue of concern"

    CN: "I think it's wrong to comment on that""


    WHY IS IT WRONG TO COMMENT ON THAT. HOW CAN HIS ASYLUM STATUS AND CRIMINAL RECORD NOT BE AN ISSUE OF CONCERN

    These people make me want to puke

    https://x.com/christiancalgie/status/1753320770468495775?s=20

    Have you been guilty of a microaggression? If so, it's a slippery slope and you soon could be chucking a corrosive substance at women and children:

    https://twitter.com/BBCNewsnight/status/1753192152832614853
    Can I be a Mad Neon Fascist Imperialist and suggest that what happened was a macroaggression?
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 60,479
    edited February 2
    Leon said:

    FPT for @turbotubbs on my picture quiz

    This one. Why is it infamous etc




    The answer is far more freaky than me hiring a ladyboy. It actually made me wince when I heard it. Yes, that bad

    I'm guessing it is where some philanderer got his manhood chopped off by his wife ?
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 25,130
    Pulpstar said:

    Leon said:

    Extraordinary, if true. The total pathetic decadence of our politicians


    "Newsnight asked (Labour MP) Bell Ribeiro-Addy and (Tory MP) Caroline Nokes about the fact the alkali attacker was granted asylum on his 3rd attempt after a sexual assault conviction

    BRA: "His asylum status is not really the issue of concern"

    CN: "I think it's wrong to comment on that""


    WHY IS IT WRONG TO COMMENT ON THAT. HOW CAN HIS ASYLUM STATUS AND CRIMINAL RECORD NOT BE AN ISSUE OF CONCERN

    These people make me want to puke

    https://x.com/christiancalgie/status/1753320770468495775?s=20

    If someone's come from an oppressive regime then that trumps absolutely everything else, ever. It's regarded pretty much as a law of physics for those in the system.
    If the politicians agree with it, then it would be good if they came out and made it clear that they support it.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 44,916
    Nigelb said:

    Leon said:

    FPT for @turbotubbs on my picture quiz

    This one. Why is it infamous etc




    The answer is far more freaky than me hiring a ladyboy. It actually made me wince when I heard it. Yes, that bad

    I'm guessing it is where some philanderer got his manhood chopped off by his wife ?
    Considerably weirder than that
  • CyclefreeCyclefree Posts: 25,003
    edited February 2
    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    FPT - I'd have thought, at this stage, Alan Bates can basically name his price.

    I'm sure, being the sort of guy he is, that once he's got it he will take a modest amount for himself and use the rest to help others and his community.

    He just doesn't want to be taken for a fool.

    It would be interesting to know the sums involved
    It's good to see that the attitude to compensation is still honouring the traditions of Aberfan.
    Wait, have I said they're being overgenerous? Or mean? Or anything?

    I merely observe it would be interesting to see what they've offered, and what he sees as apposite. He is claiming the sums are derisory, less than a quarter of what it should be, and I confess - after all the terrible publicity - I am surprised by this, is HMG contriving to screw it all up, all over again, by being mean and stupid?

    If you follow the details of how the compensation schemes - 3 of them, run by the Post Office, the very body which has utterly fucked up everything else it has touched - you will see that (a) it has managed to fuck this up as well eg by messing up the tax treatment of compensation claims; and (b) by deliberately delaying payment and trying to minimise the amounts and generally delaying everything as much as possible so that people either die or give up and accept far less than they are legally entitled to.

    There has been a lot of analysis of how badly they - both PO and government - are behaving over this. The government thought it could get away with it because the public was not really interested and some of the details are technical. But now .....

    At an absolute minimum calculation of compensation should be taken out of the hands of the Post Office and the Business Department. Neither of them can be trusted on this.

  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 6,751
    Ghedebrav said:

    Have we done Danczuk standing for Reform?

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2024/feb/01/ex-mp-simon-danczuk-suspended-for-sexting-to-fight-byelection-for-reform

    Washed up old perv AND Gorgeous standing; what have the poor folk of Rochdale done to deserve this??

    Reform UK going for the "nothing wrong sexting a 17 year old" vote. This sort of grievance politics has worked for the Republicans in the US.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 44,916
    edited February 2
    Pulpstar said:

    Leon said:

    Extraordinary, if true. The total pathetic decadence of our politicians


    "Newsnight asked (Labour MP) Bell Ribeiro-Addy and (Tory MP) Caroline Nokes about the fact the alkali attacker was granted asylum on his 3rd attempt after a sexual assault conviction

    BRA: "His asylum status is not really the issue of concern"

    CN: "I think it's wrong to comment on that""


    WHY IS IT WRONG TO COMMENT ON THAT. HOW CAN HIS ASYLUM STATUS AND CRIMINAL RECORD NOT BE AN ISSUE OF CONCERN

    These people make me want to puke

    https://x.com/christiancalgie/status/1753320770468495775?s=20

    If someone's come from an oppressive regime then that trumps absolutely everything else, ever. It's regarded pretty much as a law of physics for those in the system.
    One of the remarkable things about that exchange is that it is two female MPs spewing this Woke drivel

    What about the rights of the woman who got her face melted? And her kids, likewise? Don't they have the right to be defended from failed asylum seeking Afghan perverts with criminal records who should have been deported???

    What happened to feminism? What happened to sticking up for women?
  • kjhkjh Posts: 10,351
    edited February 2

    Pulpstar said:

    Dreamt that Biden vs Trump instead of votes came down to a game of American Football... Was 0-0 when I woke up but team Trump had just fluffed a field goal.

    Well.


    Well I have liked it because it made me laugh, but the pedant in me shrieks 'Blue Whale'. Maybe they didn't have a picture.
  • MoonRabbitMoonRabbit Posts: 12,069
    Foxy said:

    Techne is in the centre of the pack of polling companies for results.

    https://www.techneuk.com/tracker/

    Our most recent poll, conducted on the 31st January and 1st February 2024, marks a continued uptick in support for the Labour Party, alongside a slight decrease for the Conservative Party. The Liberal Democrats hold steady, Reform Party sees a gain, while the Green Party experiences a drop. The SNP and other parties’ support remains unchanged.

    The current figures, set against the previous poll from the 25th January 2024, are as follows:

    Lab: 45% (+1)
    Con: 23% (-1)
    Lib Dem: 10% (=)
    Reform: 10% (+1)
    Green: 6% (-1)
    SNP: 3% (=)
    Others: 3% (=)

    It's hard to fault Starmers strategy that has put him so far ahead.

    It may be boring, but it's working.
    No. Why do you always set it up for me to disagree with you foxy, and have to explain political facts of life to PBers? 🙇‍♀️

    It’s not “Starmer’s Strategy” only in lazy political discussion - there’s a whole team around him, certainly Mandleson, probably Campbell, Perhaps regular chats with Blair, and a host of modellers and wonks, speech writers, image makers, handlers.

    What they are doing - and flipping getting away with - is greedy and a tad undemocratic - not just win, not just win big enough so the Corbynite awkward squad are utterly irrelevant, but win on a BLANK CHEQUE.

    Anyone who assumes once winning Labour will soon be unpopular and Tories have poll leads again, are living in cloud Cuckoo land - governments are regarded differently, fresh change, more spin time on media, control all the leavers of setting the agenda (and traps for opponents) - at least two years of honeymoon before delivery on promises start being called in. And there’s the twist: there ain’t no promises, they are getting away with a BLANK CHEQUE.

    The Tories could go the whole of the next Parliamentary term without a single poll lead, especially after a heavy defeat where they will come to be seen as a fringe cult group who delivered worst government ever when in power.

    If it was just Starmer’s strategy alone it would be very different, probably a boat full of hostages to fortune as he clearly (from 1:1 interviews, easily his weakest facet) ain’t all that card sharp at politics.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 75,674
    Leon said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Leon said:

    Extraordinary, if true. The total pathetic decadence of our politicians


    "Newsnight asked (Labour MP) Bell Ribeiro-Addy and (Tory MP) Caroline Nokes about the fact the alkali attacker was granted asylum on his 3rd attempt after a sexual assault conviction

    BRA: "His asylum status is not really the issue of concern"

    CN: "I think it's wrong to comment on that""


    WHY IS IT WRONG TO COMMENT ON THAT. HOW CAN HIS ASYLUM STATUS AND CRIMINAL RECORD NOT BE AN ISSUE OF CONCERN

    These people make me want to puke

    https://x.com/christiancalgie/status/1753320770468495775?s=20

    If someone's come from an oppressive regime then that trumps absolutely everything else, ever. It's regarded pretty much as a law of physics for those in the system.
    One of the remarkable things about that exchange is that it is two female MPs spewing this Woke drivel

    What about the rights of the woman who got her face melted? And her kids, likewise? Don't they have the right to be defended from failed asylum seeking Afghan perverts with criminal records who should have been deported???

    What happened to feminism? What happened to sticking up for women?
    Along not dissimilar lines, this is utterly bonkers

    https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/humphrey-burke-free-two-years-after-sentence-kick-prison-guard-to-death/
  • kjh said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Dreamt that Biden vs Trump instead of votes came down to a game of American Football... Was 0-0 when I woke up but team Trump had just fluffed a field goal.

    Well.


    Well I have liked it because it made me laugh, but the pedant in me shrieks 'Blue Whale'. Maybe they didn't have a picture.
    The pedant in me wants to note the lack of a capital E in the text.

    Blue Whales would be the biggest babies in water, not on earth.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 44,916
    Pulpstar said:

    Leon said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Leon said:

    Extraordinary, if true. The total pathetic decadence of our politicians


    "Newsnight asked (Labour MP) Bell Ribeiro-Addy and (Tory MP) Caroline Nokes about the fact the alkali attacker was granted asylum on his 3rd attempt after a sexual assault conviction

    BRA: "His asylum status is not really the issue of concern"

    CN: "I think it's wrong to comment on that""


    WHY IS IT WRONG TO COMMENT ON THAT. HOW CAN HIS ASYLUM STATUS AND CRIMINAL RECORD NOT BE AN ISSUE OF CONCERN

    These people make me want to puke

    https://x.com/christiancalgie/status/1753320770468495775?s=20

    If someone's come from an oppressive regime then that trumps absolutely everything else, ever. It's regarded pretty much as a law of physics for those in the system.
    One of the remarkable things about that exchange is that it is two female MPs spewing this Woke drivel

    What about the rights of the woman who got her face melted? And her kids, likewise? Don't they have the right to be defended from failed asylum seeking Afghan perverts with criminal records who should have been deported???

    What happened to feminism? What happened to sticking up for women?
    Along not dissimilar lines, this is utterly bonkers

    https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/humphrey-burke-free-two-years-after-sentence-kick-prison-guard-to-death/
    Hard not to lapse into despair
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 14,619

    kjh said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Dreamt that Biden vs Trump instead of votes came down to a game of American Football... Was 0-0 when I woke up but team Trump had just fluffed a field goal.

    Well.


    Well I have liked it because it made me laugh, but the pedant in me shrieks 'Blue Whale'. Maybe they didn't have a picture.
    The pedant in me wants to note the lack of a capital E in the text.

    Blue Whales would be the biggest babies in water, not on earth.
    Really? Are the oceans not on Earth?
  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 6,751
    .
    kjh said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Dreamt that Biden vs Trump instead of votes came down to a game of American Football... Was 0-0 when I woke up but team Trump had just fluffed a field goal.

    Well.


    Well I have liked it because it made me laugh, but the pedant in me shrieks 'Blue Whale'. Maybe they didn't have a picture.
    Ah, but blue whale babies are not "on earth". They are in the sea!
  • kjh said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Dreamt that Biden vs Trump instead of votes came down to a game of American Football... Was 0-0 when I woke up but team Trump had just fluffed a field goal.

    Well.


    Well I have liked it because it made me laugh, but the pedant in me shrieks 'Blue Whale'. Maybe they didn't have a picture.
    The pedant in me wants to note the lack of a capital E in the text.

    Blue Whales would be the biggest babies in water, not on earth.
    Really? Are the oceans not on Earth?
    The oceans are on Earth, but the creatures within them are not on earth.
  • noneoftheabovenoneoftheabove Posts: 20,244
    Cyclefree said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    FPT - I'd have thought, at this stage, Alan Bates can basically name his price.

    I'm sure, being the sort of guy he is, that once he's got it he will take a modest amount for himself and use the rest to help others and his community.

    He just doesn't want to be taken for a fool.

    It would be interesting to know the sums involved
    It's good to see that the attitude to compensation is still honouring the traditions of Aberfan.
    Wait, have I said they're being overgenerous? Or mean? Or anything?

    I merely observe it would be interesting to see what they've offered, and what he sees as apposite. He is claiming the sums are derisory, less than a quarter of what it should be, and I confess - after all the terrible publicity - I am surprised by this, is HMG contriving to screw it all up, all over again, by being mean and stupid?

    If you follow the details of how the compensation schemes - 3 of them, run by the Post Office, the very body which has utterly fucked up everything else it has touched - you will see that (a) it has managed to fuck this up as well eg by messing up the tax treatment of compensation claims; and (b) by deliberately delaying payment and trying to minimise the amounts and generally delaying everything as much as possible so that people either die or give up and accept far less than they are legally entitled to.

    There has been a lot of analysis of how badly they - both PO and government - are behaving over this. The government thought it could get away with it because the public was not really interested and some of the details are technical. But now .....

    At an absolute minimum calculation of compensation should be taken out of the hands of the Post Office and the Business Department. Neither of them can be trusted on this.

    We could hire one of the big consultancies to sort it out, I'm sure they can come up with some IT that can do the necessary calculations.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 60,479

    .

    kjh said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Dreamt that Biden vs Trump instead of votes came down to a game of American Football... Was 0-0 when I woke up but team Trump had just fluffed a field goal.

    Well.


    Well I have liked it because it made me laugh, but the pedant in me shrieks 'Blue Whale'. Maybe they didn't have a picture.
    Ah, but blue whale babies are not "on earth". They are in the sea!
    Also it's theoretically possible a baby elephant could attend an NFL game.
    Can't see how you'd get a blue whale calf along in one piece.
  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 6,751

    kjh said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Dreamt that Biden vs Trump instead of votes came down to a game of American Football... Was 0-0 when I woke up but team Trump had just fluffed a field goal.

    Well.


    Well I have liked it because it made me laugh, but the pedant in me shrieks 'Blue Whale'. Maybe they didn't have a picture.
    The pedant in me wants to note the lack of a capital E in the text.

    Blue Whales would be the biggest babies in water, not on earth.
    Really? Are the oceans not on Earth?
    They are on the Earth, but they are not on earth. The lack of capital E was deliberate, not a mistake!!!!
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 14,619

    Foxy said:

    Techne is in the centre of the pack of polling companies for results.

    https://www.techneuk.com/tracker/

    Our most recent poll, conducted on the 31st January and 1st February 2024, marks a continued uptick in support for the Labour Party, alongside a slight decrease for the Conservative Party. The Liberal Democrats hold steady, Reform Party sees a gain, while the Green Party experiences a drop. The SNP and other parties’ support remains unchanged.

    The current figures, set against the previous poll from the 25th January 2024, are as follows:

    Lab: 45% (+1)
    Con: 23% (-1)
    Lib Dem: 10% (=)
    Reform: 10% (+1)
    Green: 6% (-1)
    SNP: 3% (=)
    Others: 3% (=)

    It's hard to fault Starmers strategy that has put him so far ahead.

    It may be boring, but it's working.
    No. Why do you always set it up for me to disagree with you foxy, and have to explain political facts of life to PBers? 🙇‍♀️

    It’s not “Starmer’s Strategy” only in lazy political discussion - there’s a whole team around him, certainly Mandleson, probably Campbell, Perhaps regular chats with Blair, and a host of modellers and wonks, speech writers, image makers, handlers.

    What they are doing - and flipping getting away with - is greedy and a tad undemocratic - not just win, not just win big enough so the Corbynite awkward squad are utterly irrelevant, but win on a BLANK CHEQUE.

    Anyone who assumes once winning Labour will soon be unpopular and Tories have poll leads again, are living in cloud Cuckoo land - governments are regarded differently, fresh change, more spin time on media, control all the leavers of setting the agenda (and traps for opponents) - at least two years of honeymoon before delivery on promises start being called in. And there’s the twist: there ain’t no promises, they are getting away with a BLANK CHEQUE.

    The Tories could go the whole of the next Parliamentary term without a single poll lead, especially after a heavy defeat where they will come to be seen as a fringe cult group who delivered worst government ever when in power.

    If it was just Starmer’s strategy alone it would be very different, probably a boat full of hostages to fortune as he clearly (from 1:1 interviews, easily his weakest facet) ain’t all that card sharp at politics.
    They wont get away with a blank slate (not cheque - cheque would be unlimited spending) forever. Thats what may drive some swingback - when they have to actually put forward policies.

    Its not impossible for policies to dramatically shift a huge poll lead into much more like parity. Teresa May waves from a cornfield somewhere.
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 14,619

    kjh said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Dreamt that Biden vs Trump instead of votes came down to a game of American Football... Was 0-0 when I woke up but team Trump had just fluffed a field goal.

    Well.


    Well I have liked it because it made me laugh, but the pedant in me shrieks 'Blue Whale'. Maybe they didn't have a picture.
    The pedant in me wants to note the lack of a capital E in the text.

    Blue Whales would be the biggest babies in water, not on earth.
    Really? Are the oceans not on Earth?
    They are on the Earth, but they are not on earth. The lack of capital E was deliberate, not a mistake!!!!
    Doubt it.
  • StuartinromfordStuartinromford Posts: 13,743

    Foxy said:

    Techne is in the centre of the pack of polling companies for results.

    https://www.techneuk.com/tracker/

    Our most recent poll, conducted on the 31st January and 1st February 2024, marks a continued uptick in support for the Labour Party, alongside a slight decrease for the Conservative Party. The Liberal Democrats hold steady, Reform Party sees a gain, while the Green Party experiences a drop. The SNP and other parties’ support remains unchanged.

    The current figures, set against the previous poll from the 25th January 2024, are as follows:

    Lab: 45% (+1)
    Con: 23% (-1)
    Lib Dem: 10% (=)
    Reform: 10% (+1)
    Green: 6% (-1)
    SNP: 3% (=)
    Others: 3% (=)

    It's hard to fault Starmers strategy that has put him so far ahead.

    It may be boring, but it's working.
    No. Why do you always set it up for me to disagree with you foxy, and have to explain political facts of life to PBers? 🙇‍♀️

    It’s not “Starmer’s Strategy” only in lazy political discussion - there’s a whole team around him, certainly Mandleson, probably Campbell, Perhaps regular chats with Blair, and a host of modellers and wonks, speech writers, image makers, handlers.

    What they are doing - and flipping getting away with - is greedy and a tad undemocratic - not just win, not just win big enough so the Corbynite awkward squad are utterly irrelevant, but win on a BLANK CHEQUE.

    Anyone who assumes once winning Labour will soon be unpopular and Tories have poll leads again, are living in cloud Cuckoo land - governments are regarded differently, fresh change, more spin time on media, control all the leavers of setting the agenda (and traps for opponents) - at least two years of honeymoon before delivery on promises start being called in. And there’s the twist: there ain’t no promises, they are getting away with a BLANK CHEQUE.

    The Tories could go the whole of the next Parliamentary term without a single poll lead, especially after a heavy defeat where they will come to be seen as a fringe cult group who delivered worst government ever when in power.

    If it was just Starmer’s strategy alone it would be very different, probably a boat full of hostages to fortune as he clearly (from 1:1 interviews, easily his weakest facet) ain’t all that card sharp at politics.
    Or rather, there's one promise- the Balwinesque Doctor's Mandate to do whatever's needed to fix whatever problems emerge when the books are opened.

    Most governments do that a bit. They don't do everything in their manifesto, they do things that weren't in their manifesto. Politicians break promises all the time. Franky, they get away with it if the outcomes of breaking promises are better than not doing so. Would Maggie have done better to break her promise to introduce the Poll Tax?

    Starmer only has to make one promise to win- to not be a Conservative. However, they've all trashed the Conservative party brand so much that being someone else looks like being enough to win.

    And then, with a big enough majority, he can do whatever he damn well pleases. In part, because of the way that Team 2016-24 have Taken Back Control to the executive in Westminster.

    Them's the breaks.
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 14,619
    Nigelb said:

    .

    kjh said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Dreamt that Biden vs Trump instead of votes came down to a game of American Football... Was 0-0 when I woke up but team Trump had just fluffed a field goal.

    Well.


    Well I have liked it because it made me laugh, but the pedant in me shrieks 'Blue Whale'. Maybe they didn't have a picture.
    Ah, but blue whale babies are not "on earth". They are in the sea!
    Also it's theoretically possible a baby elephant could attend an NFL game.
    Can't see how you'd get a blue whale calf along in one piece.
    Damien Hirst in his heyday would have had a bash. Not ideal for the calf mind.
  • GhedebravGhedebrav Posts: 2,924

    Ghedebrav said:

    Have we done Danczuk standing for Reform?

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2024/feb/01/ex-mp-simon-danczuk-suspended-for-sexting-to-fight-byelection-for-reform

    Washed up old perv AND Gorgeous standing; what have the poor folk of Rochdale done to deserve this??

    Yeah, posted it last night. Rochdale is a classic left behind town, and it has had some seriously dodgy representatives in the past. Most eastern Lancashire towns suffer from zonal planning - Rochdale even labels them "townships". Which means it has been a lodestone for racist nutjobs of various descriptions in the past.

    Happily in comes gorgeous to whip racial tensions hard for votes.
    Club got relegated to non-league last year as well (and probs won't be bouncing back up either - National League is hard to get out of). Better than Bury's ignominious fate, but sad to see (even as a County fan) them and Oldham down there.
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 39,532
    Leon said:

    FPT for @turbotubbs on my picture quiz

    This one. Why is it infamous etc







    The answer is far more freaky than me hiring a ladyboy. It actually made me wince when I heard it. Yes, that bad

    Did an asylum seeker once stay there?
  • edmundintokyoedmundintokyo Posts: 17,126
    edited February 2
    Selebian said:

    Lay the Biden/Trump combo? Maybe - how long until the nominees are set?

    I'm already exposed enough on a second Trump presidency, so I don't think I'll go for it. Green either way on Biden after backing ages ago and trading out (but I traded out far too early as I got cold feet on that :disappointed: ) Trump wins presidency, I lose. Otherwise I'm good. But then, Trump wins presidency and we all lose. I won't really care that much about the bet if that happens.

    The rules say
    "For this market, nominees will be determined according to each party's national convention"
    ie July for the GOP and August for the Dems.

    So Trump getting disqualified or not should be resolved in time, but him getting jailed (in the rather optimistic event that they manage to get that done before the election) wouldn't be. And the grim reaper only has 5 or 6 months respectively to win this bet for you.
  • Ghedebrav said:

    Ghedebrav said:

    Have we done Danczuk standing for Reform?

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2024/feb/01/ex-mp-simon-danczuk-suspended-for-sexting-to-fight-byelection-for-reform

    Washed up old perv AND Gorgeous standing; what have the poor folk of Rochdale done to deserve this??

    Yeah, posted it last night. Rochdale is a classic left behind town, and it has had some seriously dodgy representatives in the past. Most eastern Lancashire towns suffer from zonal planning - Rochdale even labels them "townships". Which means it has been a lodestone for racist nutjobs of various descriptions in the past.

    Happily in comes gorgeous to whip racial tensions hard for votes.
    Club got relegated to non-league last year as well (and probs won't be bouncing back up either - National League is hard to get out of). Better than Bury's ignominious fate, but sad to see (even as a County fan) them and Oldham down there.
    Hard but not impossible. Tranmere Rovers are far from our heyday and got relegated there after 94 years in the League but got out after just three seasons. :)
  • LeonLeon Posts: 44,916

    Leon said:

    FPT for @turbotubbs on my picture quiz

    This one. Why is it infamous etc







    The answer is far more freaky than me hiring a ladyboy. It actually made me wince when I heard it. Yes, that bad

    Did an asylum seeker once stay there?
    The answer will have to wait for the lagershed. Or, at least, my lagershed in Cambodian time

    It is too appalling for sober discourse
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 38,473

    Foxy said:

    Techne is in the centre of the pack of polling companies for results.

    https://www.techneuk.com/tracker/

    Our most recent poll, conducted on the 31st January and 1st February 2024, marks a continued uptick in support for the Labour Party, alongside a slight decrease for the Conservative Party. The Liberal Democrats hold steady, Reform Party sees a gain, while the Green Party experiences a drop. The SNP and other parties’ support remains unchanged.

    The current figures, set against the previous poll from the 25th January 2024, are as follows:

    Lab: 45% (+1)
    Con: 23% (-1)
    Lib Dem: 10% (=)
    Reform: 10% (+1)
    Green: 6% (-1)
    SNP: 3% (=)
    Others: 3% (=)

    It's hard to fault Starmers strategy that has put him so far ahead.

    It may be boring, but it's working.
    No. Why do you always set it up for me to disagree with you foxy, and have to explain political facts of life to PBers? 🙇‍♀️

    It’s not “Starmer’s Strategy” only in lazy political discussion - there’s a whole team around him, certainly Mandleson, probably Campbell, Perhaps regular chats with Blair, and a host of modellers and wonks, speech writers, image makers, handlers.

    What they are doing - and flipping getting away with - is greedy and a tad undemocratic - not just win, not just win big enough so the Corbynite awkward squad are utterly irrelevant, but win on a BLANK CHEQUE.

    Anyone who assumes once winning Labour will soon be unpopular and Tories have poll leads again, are living in cloud Cuckoo land - governments are regarded differently, fresh change, more spin time on media, control all the leavers of setting the agenda (and traps for opponents) - at least two years of honeymoon before delivery on promises start being called in. And there’s the twist: there ain’t no promises, they are getting away with a BLANK CHEQUE.

    The Tories could go the whole of the next Parliamentary term without a single poll lead, especially after a heavy defeat where they will come to be seen as a fringe cult group who delivered worst government ever when in power.

    If it was just Starmer’s strategy alone it would be very different, probably a boat full of hostages to fortune as he clearly (from 1:1 interviews, easily his weakest facet) ain’t all that card sharp at politics.
    I quite like the strategy. It's refreshing to not be hearing the usual bullshit. We're gonna do this, we're gonna do that - these things often fantastical or contradictory or unaffordable - just drop all of that nonsense and win without it if you can. The mandate is all the better for it and so are your prospects - both for making meaningful change in practice and for further terms in office.
  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 40,703
    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    FPT for @turbotubbs on my picture quiz

    This one. Why is it infamous etc







    The answer is far more freaky than me hiring a ladyboy. It actually made me wince when I heard it. Yes, that bad

    Did an asylum seeker once stay there?
    The answer will have to wait for the lagershed. Or, at least, my lagershed in Cambodian time

    It is too appalling for sober discourse
    It has to involve Pol Pot, sex, and violence.

    So not hugely interesting whatever the combination.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 42,832
    Cyclefree said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    FPT - I'd have thought, at this stage, Alan Bates can basically name his price.

    I'm sure, being the sort of guy he is, that once he's got it he will take a modest amount for himself and use the rest to help others and his community.

    He just doesn't want to be taken for a fool.

    It would be interesting to know the sums involved
    It's good to see that the attitude to compensation is still honouring the traditions of Aberfan.
    Wait, have I said they're being overgenerous? Or mean? Or anything?

    I merely observe it would be interesting to see what they've offered, and what he sees as apposite. He is claiming the sums are derisory, less than a quarter of what it should be, and I confess - after all the terrible publicity - I am surprised by this, is HMG contriving to screw it all up, all over again, by being mean and stupid?

    If you follow the details of how the compensation schemes - 3 of them, run by the Post Office, the very body which has utterly fucked up everything else it has touched - you will see that (a) it has managed to fuck this up as well eg by messing up the tax treatment of compensation claims; and (b) by deliberately delaying payment and trying to minimise the amounts and generally delaying everything as much as possible so that people either die or give up and accept far less than they are legally entitled to.

    There has been a lot of analysis of how badly they - both PO and government - are behaving over this. The government thought it could get away with it because the public was not really interested and some of the details are technical. But now .....

    At an absolute minimum calculation of compensation should be taken out of the hands of the Post Office and the Business Department. Neither of them can be trusted on this.

    Not much to say apart from.....


  • LeonLeon Posts: 44,916
    TOPPING said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    FPT for @turbotubbs on my picture quiz

    This one. Why is it infamous etc







    The answer is far more freaky than me hiring a ladyboy. It actually made me wince when I heard it. Yes, that bad

    Did an asylum seeker once stay there?
    The answer will have to wait for the lagershed. Or, at least, my lagershed in Cambodian time

    It is too appalling for sober discourse
    It has to involve Pol Pot, sex, and violence.

    So not hugely interesting whatever the combination.
    Wrong
  • SelebianSelebian Posts: 7,096
    edited February 2

    kjh said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Dreamt that Biden vs Trump instead of votes came down to a game of American Football... Was 0-0 when I woke up but team Trump had just fluffed a field goal.

    Well.


    Well I have liked it because it made me laugh, but the pedant in me shrieks 'Blue Whale'. Maybe they didn't have a picture.
    The pedant in me wants to note the lack of a capital E in the text.

    Blue Whales would be the biggest babies in water, not on earth.
    Really? Are the oceans not on Earth?
    They are on the Earth, but they are not on earth. The lack of capital E was deliberate, not a mistake!!!!
    Doubt it.
    Of course depending on definitions, some parts of the oceans are on earth, too (where 'earth' or sediment is washed into the seas and settles to the bottom...)

    It could be taken as:
    • Planet, even lacking capitalisation. so they're wrong, it's the blue whale
    • Soil, probably correct as even if there is soil at the ocean floor above the bedrock, the blue whales are probably above it, not on it
    • Land - again, the writers are correct
    Devilishly sloppy joke writing though :wink:

    ETA: This is all your fault, kjh!
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 75,674
    A rare wicket in the cricket, one taken on the 546th legal delivery of the day.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 54,695
    Leon said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Leon said:

    Extraordinary, if true. The total pathetic decadence of our politicians


    "Newsnight asked (Labour MP) Bell Ribeiro-Addy and (Tory MP) Caroline Nokes about the fact the alkali attacker was granted asylum on his 3rd attempt after a sexual assault conviction

    BRA: "His asylum status is not really the issue of concern"

    CN: "I think it's wrong to comment on that""


    WHY IS IT WRONG TO COMMENT ON THAT. HOW CAN HIS ASYLUM STATUS AND CRIMINAL RECORD NOT BE AN ISSUE OF CONCERN

    These people make me want to puke

    https://x.com/christiancalgie/status/1753320770468495775?s=20

    If someone's come from an oppressive regime then that trumps absolutely everything else, ever. It's regarded pretty much as a law of physics for those in the system.
    One of the remarkable things about that exchange is that it is two female MPs spewing this Woke drivel

    What about the rights of the woman who got her face melted? And her kids, likewise? Don't they have the right to be defended from failed asylum seeking Afghan perverts with criminal records who should have been deported???

    What happened to feminism? What happened to sticking up for women?
    Their starting point will be that to say anything else risks give succour to racists.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 54,695

    Foxy said:

    Techne is in the centre of the pack of polling companies for results.

    https://www.techneuk.com/tracker/

    Our most recent poll, conducted on the 31st January and 1st February 2024, marks a continued uptick in support for the Labour Party, alongside a slight decrease for the Conservative Party. The Liberal Democrats hold steady, Reform Party sees a gain, while the Green Party experiences a drop. The SNP and other parties’ support remains unchanged.

    The current figures, set against the previous poll from the 25th January 2024, are as follows:

    Lab: 45% (+1)
    Con: 23% (-1)
    Lib Dem: 10% (=)
    Reform: 10% (+1)
    Green: 6% (-1)
    SNP: 3% (=)
    Others: 3% (=)

    It's hard to fault Starmers strategy that has put him so far ahead.

    It may be boring, but it's working.
    No. Why do you always set it up for me to disagree with you foxy, and have to explain political facts of life to PBers? 🙇‍♀️

    It’s not “Starmer’s Strategy” only in lazy political discussion - there’s a whole team around him, certainly Mandleson, probably Campbell, Perhaps regular chats with Blair, and a host of modellers and wonks, speech writers, image makers, handlers.

    What they are doing - and flipping getting away with - is greedy and a tad undemocratic - not just win, not just win big enough so the Corbynite awkward squad are utterly irrelevant, but win on a BLANK CHEQUE.

    Anyone who assumes once winning Labour will soon be unpopular and Tories have poll leads again, are living in cloud Cuckoo land - governments are regarded differently, fresh change, more spin time on media, control all the leavers of setting the agenda (and traps for opponents) - at least two years of honeymoon before delivery on promises start being called in. And there’s the twist: there ain’t no promises, they are getting away with a BLANK CHEQUE.

    The Tories could go the whole of the next Parliamentary term without a single poll lead, especially after a heavy defeat where they will come to be seen as a fringe cult group who delivered worst government ever when in power.

    If it was just Starmer’s strategy alone it would be very different, probably a boat full of hostages to fortune as he clearly (from 1:1 interviews, easily his weakest facet) ain’t all that card sharp at politics.
    They wont get away with a blank slate (not cheque - cheque would be unlimited spending) forever. Thats what may drive some swingback - when they have to actually put forward policies.

    Its not impossible for policies to dramatically shift a huge poll lead into much more like parity. Teresa May waves from a cornfield somewhere.
    Is that the video on RedTube?
  • noneoftheabovenoneoftheabove Posts: 20,244
    Selebian said:

    kjh said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Dreamt that Biden vs Trump instead of votes came down to a game of American Football... Was 0-0 when I woke up but team Trump had just fluffed a field goal.

    Well.


    Well I have liked it because it made me laugh, but the pedant in me shrieks 'Blue Whale'. Maybe they didn't have a picture.
    The pedant in me wants to note the lack of a capital E in the text.

    Blue Whales would be the biggest babies in water, not on earth.
    Really? Are the oceans not on Earth?
    They are on the Earth, but they are not on earth. The lack of capital E was deliberate, not a mistake!!!!
    Doubt it.
    Of course depending on definitions, some parts of the oceans are on earth, too (where 'earth' or sediment is washed into the seas and settles to the bottom...)

    It could be taken as:
    • Planet, even lacking capitalisation. so they're wrong, it's the blue whale
    • Soil, probably correct as even if there is soil at the ocean floor above the bedrock, the blue whales are probably above it, not on it
    • Land - again, the writers are correct
    Devilishly sloppy joke writing though :wink:
    Ah, but are birds on earth or in the sky? If the sky, then surely whales are in the water above the earth/sea bed not on it......
  • SelebianSelebian Posts: 7,096
    Nigelb said:

    .

    kjh said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Dreamt that Biden vs Trump instead of votes came down to a game of American Football... Was 0-0 when I woke up but team Trump had just fluffed a field goal.

    Well.


    Well I have liked it because it made me laugh, but the pedant in me shrieks 'Blue Whale'. Maybe they didn't have a picture.
    Ah, but blue whale babies are not "on earth". They are in the sea!
    Also it's theoretically possible a baby elephant could attend an NFL game.
    Can't see how you'd get a blue whale calf along in one piece.
    Wait, why does the hypothetical baby elephant need to attend a game?
  • Leon said:

    TOPPING said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    FPT for @turbotubbs on my picture quiz

    This one. Why is it infamous etc







    The answer is far more freaky than me hiring a ladyboy. It actually made me wince when I heard it. Yes, that bad

    Did an asylum seeker once stay there?
    The answer will have to wait for the lagershed. Or, at least, my lagershed in Cambodian time

    It is too appalling for sober discourse
    It has to involve Pol Pot, sex, and violence.

    So not hugely interesting whatever the combination.
    Wrong
    Gary Glitter’s old home?
  • BartholomewRobertsBartholomewRoberts Posts: 17,606
    edited February 2
    Selebian said:

    kjh said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Dreamt that Biden vs Trump instead of votes came down to a game of American Football... Was 0-0 when I woke up but team Trump had just fluffed a field goal.

    Well.


    Well I have liked it because it made me laugh, but the pedant in me shrieks 'Blue Whale'. Maybe they didn't have a picture.
    The pedant in me wants to note the lack of a capital E in the text.

    Blue Whales would be the biggest babies in water, not on earth.
    Really? Are the oceans not on Earth?
    They are on the Earth, but they are not on earth. The lack of capital E was deliberate, not a mistake!!!!
    Doubt it.
    Of course depending on definitions, some parts of the oceans are on earth, too (where 'earth' or sediment is washed into the seas and settles to the bottom...)

    It could be taken as:
    • Planet, even lacking capitalisation. so they're wrong, it's the blue whale
    • Soil, probably correct as even if there is soil at the ocean floor above the bedrock, the blue whales are probably above it, not on it
    • Land - again, the writers are correct
    Devilishly sloppy joke writing though :wink:
    The planet requires capitalisation does it not? Its a proper noun.

    So either they're correct deliberately, or correct accidentally, but either way its accurate.
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 23,498
    Leon said:

    Extraordinary, if true. The total pathetic decadence of our politicians


    "Newsnight asked (Labour MP) Bell Ribeiro-Addy and (Tory MP) Caroline Nokes about the fact the alkali attacker was granted asylum on his 3rd attempt after a sexual assault conviction

    BRA: "His asylum status is not really the issue of concern"

    CN: "I think it's wrong to comment on that""


    WHY IS IT WRONG TO COMMENT ON THAT. HOW CAN HIS ASYLUM STATUS AND CRIMINAL RECORD NOT BE AN ISSUE OF CONCERN

    These people make me want to puke

    https://x.com/christiancalgie/status/1753320770468495775?s=20

    Aiui Suella Braverman wanted and failed to change the law on this, but even then, this chap would not be affected because he had not been imprisoned.
  • SelebianSelebian Posts: 7,096

    Selebian said:

    kjh said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Dreamt that Biden vs Trump instead of votes came down to a game of American Football... Was 0-0 when I woke up but team Trump had just fluffed a field goal.

    Well.


    Well I have liked it because it made me laugh, but the pedant in me shrieks 'Blue Whale'. Maybe they didn't have a picture.
    The pedant in me wants to note the lack of a capital E in the text.

    Blue Whales would be the biggest babies in water, not on earth.
    Really? Are the oceans not on Earth?
    They are on the Earth, but they are not on earth. The lack of capital E was deliberate, not a mistake!!!!
    Doubt it.
    Of course depending on definitions, some parts of the oceans are on earth, too (where 'earth' or sediment is washed into the seas and settles to the bottom...)

    It could be taken as:
    • Planet, even lacking capitalisation. so they're wrong, it's the blue whale
    • Soil, probably correct as even if there is soil at the ocean floor above the bedrock, the blue whales are probably above it, not on it
    • Land - again, the writers are correct
    Devilishly sloppy joke writing though :wink:
    Ah, but are birds on earth or in the sky? If the sky, then surely whales are in the water above the earth/sea bed not on it......
    Yep, so the joke is correct as the blue whales are not on earth[soil/sediment] unless something has gone wrong.

    All I can say is it's lucky they didn't post a picture of a baby elephant jumping up into the air. Or Dumbo in flight :open_mouth:
  • LeonLeon Posts: 44,916
    OK fuck it I will tell you. I did advise you to wait for a more seemly hour, but anyway

    That photo shows number 7, road 310, Phnom Penh, in the city's trendy BKK district

    It may now be full of pho bars and expat pubs and Ethiopian coffee roasters, but back in the day BKK was a very sleepy suburb yet with a faintly seedy reputation. At number 7 there was, in particular, a famous institution, Madam Chum's bordello and opium den

    For decades until the Khmer Rouge anyone who was anyone, with low morals, came here

    Along with nice pipes of opium it was notorious as the place where the French indochinese sex trick of the "Cholon Duck" was, apparently, perfected. Originating in the stews of Saigon, at Madam Chum's they took the "Cholon Duck" to a new level

    First, a butt naked duck had its head stuck in a drawer, then the drawer was shut tight enough, trapping the duck with its arse sticking out. The panic meant the duck's rear orifice opened wider, allowing the drunk and opiated customer to penetrate more easily, with his virile member. This further increased the panic of the duck - being fucked, without even foreplay - so the orifice then tightened and loosened and tightened, in a cycle, causing "tremendous pleasure" for the duck-violator

    Furthermore, the flapping of the duck's angry feet against the testicles led, it is said, to the most intense orgasms ever

    After the client had enjoyed his wicked way with the duck, it was quickly despatched (if it hadn't died of a heart attack), it was then defeathered, cooked and served to the same customer in a light curry sauce
  • Beibheirli_CBeibheirli_C Posts: 7,980
    Leon said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Leon said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Leon said:

    Extraordinary, if true. The total pathetic decadence of our politicians


    "Newsnight asked (Labour MP) Bell Ribeiro-Addy and (Tory MP) Caroline Nokes about the fact the alkali attacker was granted asylum on his 3rd attempt after a sexual assault conviction

    BRA: "His asylum status is not really the issue of concern"

    CN: "I think it's wrong to comment on that""


    WHY IS IT WRONG TO COMMENT ON THAT. HOW CAN HIS ASYLUM STATUS AND CRIMINAL RECORD NOT BE AN ISSUE OF CONCERN

    These people make me want to puke

    https://x.com/christiancalgie/status/1753320770468495775?s=20

    If someone's come from an oppressive regime then that trumps absolutely everything else, ever. It's regarded pretty much as a law of physics for those in the system.
    One of the remarkable things about that exchange is that it is two female MPs spewing this Woke drivel

    What about the rights of the woman who got her face melted? And her kids, likewise? Don't they have the right to be defended from failed asylum seeking Afghan perverts with criminal records who should have been deported???

    What happened to feminism? What happened to sticking up for women?
    Along not dissimilar lines, this is utterly bonkers

    https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/humphrey-burke-free-two-years-after-sentence-kick-prison-guard-to-death/
    Hard not to lapse into despair
    I see the usual right-wing dog-whistles are still going off.

    They need to catch this loon (the attacker, not the OP) and lock him up for a long time.

    The attacker's asylum status is utterly irrelevant. Plenty of women get attacked / raped / murdered by white, British born nutters with a UK family history that goes back centuries, possibly millennia. Statistically, immigrants are not the issue simply because it is a numbers game. There are far more non-immigrants here.

    But I suppose a chance to bash some bl**dy foreigner is just too triggering...
  • edmundintokyoedmundintokyo Posts: 17,126
    I just noticed that the Dem convention is in Chicago, which to me implies that Biden doesn't have a cunning and devious secret plan to drop out at the convention and preside over a stitch-up where they put in someone else, because it would have 1968 vibes.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 44,916
    You did ask
  • noneoftheabovenoneoftheabove Posts: 20,244
    Selebian said:

    Selebian said:

    kjh said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Dreamt that Biden vs Trump instead of votes came down to a game of American Football... Was 0-0 when I woke up but team Trump had just fluffed a field goal.

    Well.


    Well I have liked it because it made me laugh, but the pedant in me shrieks 'Blue Whale'. Maybe they didn't have a picture.
    The pedant in me wants to note the lack of a capital E in the text.

    Blue Whales would be the biggest babies in water, not on earth.
    Really? Are the oceans not on Earth?
    They are on the Earth, but they are not on earth. The lack of capital E was deliberate, not a mistake!!!!
    Doubt it.
    Of course depending on definitions, some parts of the oceans are on earth, too (where 'earth' or sediment is washed into the seas and settles to the bottom...)

    It could be taken as:
    • Planet, even lacking capitalisation. so they're wrong, it's the blue whale
    • Soil, probably correct as even if there is soil at the ocean floor above the bedrock, the blue whales are probably above it, not on it
    • Land - again, the writers are correct
    Devilishly sloppy joke writing though :wink:
    Ah, but are birds on earth or in the sky? If the sky, then surely whales are in the water above the earth/sea bed not on it......
    Yep, so the joke is correct as the blue whales are not on earth[soil/sediment] unless something has gone wrong.

    All I can say is it's lucky they didn't post a picture of a baby elephant jumping up into the air. Or Dumbo in flight :open_mouth:
    Dumbo jet?
  • SelebianSelebian Posts: 7,096
    Leon said:

    You did ask

    I did not! :scream:

    Some of us on here are just innocents you know. Innocents. We don't even understand TSE's posts, let alone yours. :innocent:
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 14,619
    Leon said:

    You did ask

    Did we?
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 14,619
    Selebian said:

    Selebian said:

    kjh said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Dreamt that Biden vs Trump instead of votes came down to a game of American Football... Was 0-0 when I woke up but team Trump had just fluffed a field goal.

    Well.


    Well I have liked it because it made me laugh, but the pedant in me shrieks 'Blue Whale'. Maybe they didn't have a picture.
    The pedant in me wants to note the lack of a capital E in the text.

    Blue Whales would be the biggest babies in water, not on earth.
    Really? Are the oceans not on Earth?
    They are on the Earth, but they are not on earth. The lack of capital E was deliberate, not a mistake!!!!
    Doubt it.
    Of course depending on definitions, some parts of the oceans are on earth, too (where 'earth' or sediment is washed into the seas and settles to the bottom...)

    It could be taken as:
    • Planet, even lacking capitalisation. so they're wrong, it's the blue whale
    • Soil, probably correct as even if there is soil at the ocean floor above the bedrock, the blue whales are probably above it, not on it
    • Land - again, the writers are correct
    Devilishly sloppy joke writing though :wink:
    Ah, but are birds on earth or in the sky? If the sky, then surely whales are in the water above the earth/sea bed not on it......
    Yep, so the joke is correct as the blue whales are not on earth[soil/sediment] unless something has gone wrong.

    All I can say is it's lucky they didn't post a picture of a baby elephant jumping up into the air. Or Dumbo in flight :open_mouth:
    Arguably (and what is PB without a pathetic argument about trivia) the elephant in the picture is NOT on earth - its on grass (or maybe grassland). Can't have it both ways...
  • LeonLeon Posts: 44,916
    Only PB provides this level of consistently sophisticated commentary
  • StuartinromfordStuartinromford Posts: 13,743
    Leon said:

    You did ask

    Are you pitching slogans for the "Vote Conservative in 2024" campaign again?
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 42,832

    Leon said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Leon said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Leon said:

    Extraordinary, if true. The total pathetic decadence of our politicians


    "Newsnight asked (Labour MP) Bell Ribeiro-Addy and (Tory MP) Caroline Nokes about the fact the alkali attacker was granted asylum on his 3rd attempt after a sexual assault conviction

    BRA: "His asylum status is not really the issue of concern"

    CN: "I think it's wrong to comment on that""


    WHY IS IT WRONG TO COMMENT ON THAT. HOW CAN HIS ASYLUM STATUS AND CRIMINAL RECORD NOT BE AN ISSUE OF CONCERN

    These people make me want to puke

    https://x.com/christiancalgie/status/1753320770468495775?s=20

    If someone's come from an oppressive regime then that trumps absolutely everything else, ever. It's regarded pretty much as a law of physics for those in the system.
    One of the remarkable things about that exchange is that it is two female MPs spewing this Woke drivel

    What about the rights of the woman who got her face melted? And her kids, likewise? Don't they have the right to be defended from failed asylum seeking Afghan perverts with criminal records who should have been deported???

    What happened to feminism? What happened to sticking up for women?
    Along not dissimilar lines, this is utterly bonkers

    https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/humphrey-burke-free-two-years-after-sentence-kick-prison-guard-to-death/
    Hard not to lapse into despair
    I see the usual right-wing dog-whistles are still going off.

    They need to catch this loon (the attacker, not the OP) and lock him up for a long time.

    The attacker's asylum status is utterly irrelevant. Plenty of women get attacked / raped / murdered by white, British born nutters with a UK family history that goes back centuries, possibly millennia. Statistically, immigrants are not the issue simply because it is a numbers game. There are far more non-immigrants here.

    But I suppose a chance to bash some bl**dy foreigner is just too triggering...
    To be strictly accurate, *some* immigrant groups (first generation) seem to show up in the prison system far more than their presence in the population. Some, far less.

    Why is a question that should be asked. And answered.
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 39,532
    edited February 2
    Leon said:

    OK fuck it I will tell you. I did advise you to wait for a more seemly hour, but anyway

    That photo shows number 7, road 310, Phnom Penh, in the city's trendy BKK district

    It may now be full of pho bars and expat pubs and Ethiopian coffee roasters, but back in the day BKK was a very sleepy suburb yet with a faintly seedy reputation. At number 7 there was, in particular, a famous institution, Madam Chum's bordello and opium den

    For decades until the Khmer Rouge anyone who was anyone, with low morals, came here

    Along with nice pipes of opium it was notorious as the place where the French indochinese sex trick of the "Cholon Duck" was, apparently, perfected. Originating in the stews of Saigon, at Madam Chum's they took the "Cholon Duck" to a new level

    First, a butt naked duck had its head stuck in a drawer, then the drawer was shut tight enough, trapping the duck with its arse sticking out. The panic meant the duck's rear orifice opened wider, allowing the drunk and opiated customer to penetrate more easily, with his virile member. This further increased the panic of the duck - being fucked, without even foreplay - so the orifice then tightened and loosened and tightened, in a cycle, causing "tremendous pleasure" for the duck-violator

    Furthermore, the flapping of the duck's angry feet against the testicles led, it is said, to the most intense orgasms ever

    After the client had enjoyed his wicked way with the duck, it was quickly despatched (if it hadn't died of a heart attack), it was then defeathered, cooked and served to the same customer in a light curry sauce

    Funnily enough a relative of Princess Diana told me a similar story about geese and the English upper classes, with the variation that the drawer was slammed shut while the goose was penetrated. I’d imagine a goose would give your bawbag a right battering. Don’t remember any post coital cooking though, probably handed over to the starving peasantry with a knowing smirk.
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 23,498
    edited February 2

    Leon said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Leon said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Leon said:

    Extraordinary, if true. The total pathetic decadence of our politicians


    "Newsnight asked (Labour MP) Bell Ribeiro-Addy and (Tory MP) Caroline Nokes about the fact the alkali attacker was granted asylum on his 3rd attempt after a sexual assault conviction

    BRA: "His asylum status is not really the issue of concern"

    CN: "I think it's wrong to comment on that""


    WHY IS IT WRONG TO COMMENT ON THAT. HOW CAN HIS ASYLUM STATUS AND CRIMINAL RECORD NOT BE AN ISSUE OF CONCERN

    These people make me want to puke

    https://x.com/christiancalgie/status/1753320770468495775?s=20

    If someone's come from an oppressive regime then that trumps absolutely everything else, ever. It's regarded pretty much as a law of physics for those in the system.
    One of the remarkable things about that exchange is that it is two female MPs spewing this Woke drivel

    What about the rights of the woman who got her face melted? And her kids, likewise? Don't they have the right to be defended from failed asylum seeking Afghan perverts with criminal records who should have been deported???

    What happened to feminism? What happened to sticking up for women?
    Along not dissimilar lines, this is utterly bonkers

    https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/humphrey-burke-free-two-years-after-sentence-kick-prison-guard-to-death/
    Hard not to lapse into despair
    I see the usual right-wing dog-whistles are still going off.

    They need to catch this loon (the attacker, not the OP) and lock him up for a long time.

    The attacker's asylum status is utterly irrelevant. Plenty of women get attacked / raped / murdered by white, British born nutters with a UK family history that goes back centuries, possibly millennia. Statistically, immigrants are not the issue simply because it is a numbers game. There are far more non-immigrants here.

    But I suppose a chance to bash some bl**dy foreigner is just too triggering...
    You are right except in this case it might be significant if the attacker comes from a place when chucking acid in disrespectful women's faces is commonplace. The tragedy is that within living memory, Afghanistan, or at least urban Afghanistan, was quite Westernised. ETA btw this was not a so-called honour killing because, for a start, he seems not to have tried to kill anyone.
  • SelebianSelebian Posts: 7,096

    Selebian said:

    Selebian said:

    kjh said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Dreamt that Biden vs Trump instead of votes came down to a game of American Football... Was 0-0 when I woke up but team Trump had just fluffed a field goal.

    Well.


    Well I have liked it because it made me laugh, but the pedant in me shrieks 'Blue Whale'. Maybe they didn't have a picture.
    The pedant in me wants to note the lack of a capital E in the text.

    Blue Whales would be the biggest babies in water, not on earth.
    Really? Are the oceans not on Earth?
    They are on the Earth, but they are not on earth. The lack of capital E was deliberate, not a mistake!!!!
    Doubt it.
    Of course depending on definitions, some parts of the oceans are on earth, too (where 'earth' or sediment is washed into the seas and settles to the bottom...)

    It could be taken as:
    • Planet, even lacking capitalisation. so they're wrong, it's the blue whale
    • Soil, probably correct as even if there is soil at the ocean floor above the bedrock, the blue whales are probably above it, not on it
    • Land - again, the writers are correct
    Devilishly sloppy joke writing though :wink:
    Ah, but are birds on earth or in the sky? If the sky, then surely whales are in the water above the earth/sea bed not on it......
    Yep, so the joke is correct as the blue whales are not on earth[soil/sediment] unless something has gone wrong.

    All I can say is it's lucky they didn't post a picture of a baby elephant jumping up into the air. Or Dumbo in flight :open_mouth:
    Arguably (and what is PB without a pathetic argument about trivia) the elephant in the picture is NOT on earth - its on grass (or maybe grassland). Can't have it both ways...
    Not on earth directly, probably, no. But it is on earth and also on Earth. And probably quite well earthed, depending on the conductivity of those feet? Being sensible creatures, probably quite down to earth, too. And certainly earthly and more than likely a little earthy.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 44,916
    edited February 2

    Leon said:

    OK fuck it I will tell you. I did advise you to wait for a more seemly hour, but anyway

    That photo shows number 7, road 310, Phnom Penh, in the city's trendy BKK district

    It may now be full of pho bars and expat pubs and Ethiopian coffee roasters, but back in the day BKK was a very sleepy suburb yet with a faintly seedy reputation. At number 7 there was, in particular, a famous institution, Madam Chum's bordello and opium den

    For decades until the Khmer Rouge anyone who was anyone, with low morals, came here

    Along with nice pipes of opium it was notorious as the place where the French indochinese sex trick of the "Cholon Duck" was, apparently, perfected. Originating in the stews of Saigon, at Madam Chum's they took the "Cholon Duck" to a new level

    First, a butt naked duck had its head stuck in a drawer, then the drawer was shut tight enough, trapping the duck with its arse sticking out. The panic meant the duck's rear orifice opened wider, allowing the drunk and opiated customer to penetrate more easily, with his virile member. This further increased the panic of the duck - being fucked, without even foreplay - so the orifice then tightened and loosened and tightened, in a cycle, causing "tremendous pleasure" for the duck-violator

    Furthermore, the flapping of the duck's angry feet against the testicles led, it is said, to the most intense orgasms ever

    After the client had enjoyed his wicked way with the duck, it was quickly despatched (if it hadn't died of a heart attack), it was then defeathered, cooked and served to the same customer in a light curry sauce

    Funnily enough a relative of Princess Diana told me a similar story about geese and the English upper classes, with the variation that the drawer was slammed shut while penetrated. I’d imagine a goose would give your bawbag a right battering. Don’t remember any post coital cooking though, probably handed over to the starving peasantry with a knowing smirk.
    There's a vaguely related story involving JFK, the CIA and bathtubs, but we've probably gone far enough for one day
  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 6,751

    Leon said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Leon said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Leon said:

    Extraordinary, if true. The total pathetic decadence of our politicians


    "Newsnight asked (Labour MP) Bell Ribeiro-Addy and (Tory MP) Caroline Nokes about the fact the alkali attacker was granted asylum on his 3rd attempt after a sexual assault conviction

    BRA: "His asylum status is not really the issue of concern"

    CN: "I think it's wrong to comment on that""


    WHY IS IT WRONG TO COMMENT ON THAT. HOW CAN HIS ASYLUM STATUS AND CRIMINAL RECORD NOT BE AN ISSUE OF CONCERN

    These people make me want to puke

    https://x.com/christiancalgie/status/1753320770468495775?s=20

    If someone's come from an oppressive regime then that trumps absolutely everything else, ever. It's regarded pretty much as a law of physics for those in the system.
    One of the remarkable things about that exchange is that it is two female MPs spewing this Woke drivel

    What about the rights of the woman who got her face melted? And her kids, likewise? Don't they have the right to be defended from failed asylum seeking Afghan perverts with criminal records who should have been deported???

    What happened to feminism? What happened to sticking up for women?
    Along not dissimilar lines, this is utterly bonkers

    https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/humphrey-burke-free-two-years-after-sentence-kick-prison-guard-to-death/
    Hard not to lapse into despair
    I see the usual right-wing dog-whistles are still going off.

    They need to catch this loon (the attacker, not the OP) and lock him up for a long time.

    The attacker's asylum status is utterly irrelevant. Plenty of women get attacked / raped / murdered by white, British born nutters with a UK family history that goes back centuries, possibly millennia. Statistically, immigrants are not the issue simply because it is a numbers game. There are far more non-immigrants here.

    But I suppose a chance to bash some bl**dy foreigner is just too triggering...
    And while studies vary, they broadly show that immigrants commit fewer or similar numbers of crimes to non-immigrants.
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 30,705
    Leon said:

    I have formally decided the answer to my picture quiz is so OMG and EWWWW it will have to wait until I've had three martinis, in about three hours

    Sorry

    You seem to be confusing us with people who give a f*ck.
  • GhedebravGhedebrav Posts: 2,924
    The goose/duck head slammed in drawer thing is an old urban myth. It’s in the Profanisaurus, if memory serves. Related to the donkey punch.

  • SelebianSelebian Posts: 7,096

    Leon said:

    OK fuck it I will tell you. I did advise you to wait for a more seemly hour, but anyway

    That photo shows number 7, road 310, Phnom Penh, in the city's trendy BKK district

    It may now be full of pho bars and expat pubs and Ethiopian coffee roasters, but back in the day BKK was a very sleepy suburb yet with a faintly seedy reputation. At number 7 there was, in particular, a famous institution, Madam Chum's bordello and opium den

    For decades until the Khmer Rouge anyone who was anyone, with low morals, came here

    Along with nice pipes of opium it was notorious as the place where the French indochinese sex trick of the "Cholon Duck" was, apparently, perfected. Originating in the stews of Saigon, at Madam Chum's they took the "Cholon Duck" to a new level

    First, a butt naked duck had its head stuck in a drawer, then the drawer was shut tight enough, trapping the duck with its arse sticking out. The panic meant the duck's rear orifice opened wider, allowing the drunk and opiated customer to penetrate more easily, with his virile member. This further increased the panic of the duck - being fucked, without even foreplay - so the orifice then tightened and loosened and tightened, in a cycle, causing "tremendous pleasure" for the duck-violator

    Furthermore, the flapping of the duck's angry feet against the testicles led, it is said, to the most intense orgasms ever

    After the client had enjoyed his wicked way with the duck, it was quickly despatched (if it hadn't died of a heart attack), it was then defeathered, cooked and served to the same customer in a light curry sauce

    Funnily enough a relative of Princess Diana told me a similar story about geese and the English upper classes, with the variation that the drawer was slammed shut while the goose was penetrated. I’d imagine a goose would give your bawbag a right battering. Don’t remember any post coital cooking though, probably handed over to the starving peasantry with a knowing smirk.
    You shouldn't believe everything Harry tells you! :wink:
  • WhisperingOracleWhisperingOracle Posts: 8,471
    edited February 2
    Leon said:

    OK fuck it I will tell you. I did advise you to wait for a more seemly hour, but anyway

    That photo shows number 7, road 310, Phnom Penh, in the city's trendy BKK district

    It may now be full of pho bars and expat pubs and Ethiopian coffee roasters, but back in the day BKK was a very sleepy suburb yet with a faintly seedy reputation. At number 7 there was, in particular, a famous institution, Madam Chum's bordello and opium den

    For decades until the Khmer Rouge anyone who was anyone, with low morals, came here

    Along with nice pipes of opium it was notorious as the place where the French indochinese sex trick of the "Cholon Duck" was, apparently, perfected. Originating in the stews of Saigon, at Madam Chum's they took the "Cholon Duck" to a new level

    First, a butt naked duck had its head stuck in a drawer, then the drawer was shut tight enough, trapping the duck with its arse sticking out. The panic meant the duck's rear orifice opened wider, allowing the drunk and opiated customer to penetrate more easily, with his virile member. This further increased the panic of the duck - being fucked, without even foreplay - so the orifice then tightened and loosened and tightened, in a cycle, causing "tremendous pleasure" for the duck-violator

    Furthermore, the flapping of the duck's angry feet against the testicles led, it is said, to the most intense orgasms ever

    After the client had enjoyed his wicked way with the duck, it was quickly despatched (if it hadn't died of a heart attack), it was then defeathered, cooked and served to the same customer in a light curry sauce

    despatched (if it hadn't died of a heart attack), it was then defeathered, cooked and served to the same customer in a light curry uce



    This certainly brings a whole new meaning to the word debauchery.

    It sounds itself, like a fevered opium dream.
  • Selebian said:

    Selebian said:

    kjh said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Dreamt that Biden vs Trump instead of votes came down to a game of American Football... Was 0-0 when I woke up but team Trump had just fluffed a field goal.

    Well.


    Well I have liked it because it made me laugh, but the pedant in me shrieks 'Blue Whale'. Maybe they didn't have a picture.
    The pedant in me wants to note the lack of a capital E in the text.

    Blue Whales would be the biggest babies in water, not on earth.
    Really? Are the oceans not on Earth?
    They are on the Earth, but they are not on earth. The lack of capital E was deliberate, not a mistake!!!!
    Doubt it.
    Of course depending on definitions, some parts of the oceans are on earth, too (where 'earth' or sediment is washed into the seas and settles to the bottom...)

    It could be taken as:
    • Planet, even lacking capitalisation. so they're wrong, it's the blue whale
    • Soil, probably correct as even if there is soil at the ocean floor above the bedrock, the blue whales are probably above it, not on it
    • Land - again, the writers are correct
    Devilishly sloppy joke writing though :wink:
    Ah, but are birds on earth or in the sky? If the sky, then surely whales are in the water above the earth/sea bed not on it......
    Yep, so the joke is correct as the blue whales are not on earth[soil/sediment] unless something has gone wrong.

    All I can say is it's lucky they didn't post a picture of a baby elephant jumping up into the air. Or Dumbo in flight :open_mouth:
    Arguably (and what is PB without a pathetic argument about trivia) the elephant in the picture is NOT on earth - its on grass (or maybe grassland). Can't have it both ways...
    Being pedantic though there will be earth between the blades of grass that the elephant is on, grass is not contiguous across grassland, so yes the elephant is on earth as well as on grass.
  • david_herdsondavid_herdson Posts: 17,278
    On topic, the value on the Trump / Biden pairing is, IMO, about right.

    Politically, both are now bullet-proof nominations. They have either no challengers at all (Biden) or are so far ahead that they're out of sight (Trump).

    So, what could bring them down and what are the chances?

    Trump will absolutely not stand down voluntarily. We can rate that as zero. Biden might, unprompted, but it's a very low chance. He's given no indication he might (but then he probably wouldn't), and more importantly, to stand down between now and the convention would create a lot of mess and probably be viewed very badly by the public, who'd have been denied a say in the nomination. If one criticism of Trump is his autocratic tendency, it does the Democrats no favours for Biden to hand the nomination to his preferred candidate. Maybe 1-2%.

    Health? Well, it's possible that might rule one out but time is ticking. The Republican convention is in mid-July, the Democrat one five weeks later. While both men are old, they're not at death's door. An actuary could provide the proper figures but my guess would be that the chance of either being ruled out by a serious health issue in the next 6 months or so is low- to mid-single figures.

    Legal stuff. Biden here again is the zero. Trump obviously has many challenges but the Colorado-inspired one about his eligibility is the main threat. He will either brush off or appeal everything else. Hard to put a precise number on it but I don't think more than 10% myself. He deliberately kept well away from giving any direct or even indirect instructions on Jan 6 (which, ironically, is why it failed).

    Add these together and, at most, you get somewhere near a 20% chance that one or other won't be on the ballot - but half of that is Trump's risk of being debarred. You may take a different view and it's the most unknowable of the risks to either.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 44,916
    Ghedebrav said:

    The goose/duck head slammed in drawer thing is an old urban myth. It’s in the Profanisaurus, if memory serves. Related to the donkey punch.

    I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss it, at all

    There are extraordinary stories from the most famous of les maisons tolerees - the One Two Two, the Chabanais - of similar things involving animals. I'll spare you further deets, it is early in Blighty

    And these are well attested, I don't believe they are disputed

    So it is quite conceivable that tradition translated to French colonies, especially eroticised, Orientalised, hedonistic Indochina

  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 39,532
    Selebian said:

    Leon said:

    OK fuck it I will tell you. I did advise you to wait for a more seemly hour, but anyway

    That photo shows number 7, road 310, Phnom Penh, in the city's trendy BKK district

    It may now be full of pho bars and expat pubs and Ethiopian coffee roasters, but back in the day BKK was a very sleepy suburb yet with a faintly seedy reputation. At number 7 there was, in particular, a famous institution, Madam Chum's bordello and opium den

    For decades until the Khmer Rouge anyone who was anyone, with low morals, came here

    Along with nice pipes of opium it was notorious as the place where the French indochinese sex trick of the "Cholon Duck" was, apparently, perfected. Originating in the stews of Saigon, at Madam Chum's they took the "Cholon Duck" to a new level

    First, a butt naked duck had its head stuck in a drawer, then the drawer was shut tight enough, trapping the duck with its arse sticking out. The panic meant the duck's rear orifice opened wider, allowing the drunk and opiated customer to penetrate more easily, with his virile member. This further increased the panic of the duck - being fucked, without even foreplay - so the orifice then tightened and loosened and tightened, in a cycle, causing "tremendous pleasure" for the duck-violator

    Furthermore, the flapping of the duck's angry feet against the testicles led, it is said, to the most intense orgasms ever

    After the client had enjoyed his wicked way with the duck, it was quickly despatched (if it hadn't died of a heart attack), it was then defeathered, cooked and served to the same customer in a light curry sauce

    Funnily enough a relative of Princess Diana told me a similar story about geese and the English upper classes, with the variation that the drawer was slammed shut while the goose was penetrated. I’d imagine a goose would give your bawbag a right battering. Don’t remember any post coital cooking though, probably handed over to the starving peasantry with a knowing smirk.
    You shouldn't believe everything Harry tells you! :wink:
    The pegging stuff was most convincing
  • LeonLeon Posts: 44,916

    Leon said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Leon said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Leon said:

    Extraordinary, if true. The total pathetic decadence of our politicians


    "Newsnight asked (Labour MP) Bell Ribeiro-Addy and (Tory MP) Caroline Nokes about the fact the alkali attacker was granted asylum on his 3rd attempt after a sexual assault conviction

    BRA: "His asylum status is not really the issue of concern"

    CN: "I think it's wrong to comment on that""


    WHY IS IT WRONG TO COMMENT ON THAT. HOW CAN HIS ASYLUM STATUS AND CRIMINAL RECORD NOT BE AN ISSUE OF CONCERN

    These people make me want to puke

    https://x.com/christiancalgie/status/1753320770468495775?s=20

    If someone's come from an oppressive regime then that trumps absolutely everything else, ever. It's regarded pretty much as a law of physics for those in the system.
    One of the remarkable things about that exchange is that it is two female MPs spewing this Woke drivel

    What about the rights of the woman who got her face melted? And her kids, likewise? Don't they have the right to be defended from failed asylum seeking Afghan perverts with criminal records who should have been deported???

    What happened to feminism? What happened to sticking up for women?
    Along not dissimilar lines, this is utterly bonkers

    https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/humphrey-burke-free-two-years-after-sentence-kick-prison-guard-to-death/
    Hard not to lapse into despair
    I see the usual right-wing dog-whistles are still going off.

    They need to catch this loon (the attacker, not the OP) and lock him up for a long time.

    The attacker's asylum status is utterly irrelevant. Plenty of women get attacked / raped / murdered by white, British born nutters with a UK family history that goes back centuries, possibly millennia. Statistically, immigrants are not the issue simply because it is a numbers game. There are far more non-immigrants here.

    But I suppose a chance to bash some bl**dy foreigner is just too triggering...
    And while studies vary, they broadly show that immigrants commit fewer or similar numbers of crimes to non-immigrants.
    Citation required
  • Leon said:

    OK fuck it I will tell you. I did advise you to wait for a more seemly hour, but anyway

    That photo shows number 7, road 310, Phnom Penh, in the city's trendy BKK district

    It may now be full of pho bars and expat pubs and Ethiopian coffee roasters, but back in the day BKK was a very sleepy suburb yet with a faintly seedy reputation. At number 7 there was, in particular, a famous institution, Madam Chum's bordello and opium den

    For decades until the Khmer Rouge anyone who was anyone, with low morals, came here

    Along with nice pipes of opium it was notorious as the place where the French indochinese sex trick of the "Cholon Duck" was, apparently, perfected. Originating in the stews of Saigon, at Madam Chum's they took the "Cholon Duck" to a new level

    First, a butt naked duck had its head stuck in a drawer, then the drawer was shut tight enough, trapping the duck with its arse sticking out. The panic meant the duck's rear orifice opened wider, allowing the drunk and opiated customer to penetrate more easily, with his virile member. This further increased the panic of the duck - being fucked, without even foreplay - so the orifice then tightened and loosened and tightened, in a cycle, causing "tremendous pleasure" for the duck-violator

    Furthermore, the flapping of the duck's angry feet against the testicles led, it is said, to the most intense orgasms ever

    After the client had enjoyed his wicked way with the duck, it was quickly despatched (if it hadn't died of a heart attack), it was then defeathered, cooked and served to the same customer in a light curry sauce

    That's nothing, when David Cameron was at university he (That's enough - TSE)
  • GhedebravGhedebrav Posts: 2,924
    Leon said:

    Ghedebrav said:

    The goose/duck head slammed in drawer thing is an old urban myth. It’s in the Profanisaurus, if memory serves. Related to the donkey punch.

    I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss it, at all

    There are extraordinary stories from the most famous of les maisons tolerees - the One Two Two, the Chabanais - of similar things involving animals. I'll spare you further deets, it is early in Blighty

    And these are well attested, I don't believe they are disputed

    So it is quite conceivable that tradition translated to French colonies, especially eroticised, Orientalised, hedonistic Indochina

    Still filing next to 'Cleveland Steamer', 'Quumf' and' 'Reggae Like It Used To Be'.
  • Beibheirli_CBeibheirli_C Posts: 7,980
    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Leon said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Leon said:

    Extraordinary, if true. The total pathetic decadence of our politicians


    "Newsnight asked (Labour MP) Bell Ribeiro-Addy and (Tory MP) Caroline Nokes about the fact the alkali attacker was granted asylum on his 3rd attempt after a sexual assault conviction

    BRA: "His asylum status is not really the issue of concern"

    CN: "I think it's wrong to comment on that""


    WHY IS IT WRONG TO COMMENT ON THAT. HOW CAN HIS ASYLUM STATUS AND CRIMINAL RECORD NOT BE AN ISSUE OF CONCERN

    These people make me want to puke

    https://x.com/christiancalgie/status/1753320770468495775?s=20

    If someone's come from an oppressive regime then that trumps absolutely everything else, ever. It's regarded pretty much as a law of physics for those in the system.
    One of the remarkable things about that exchange is that it is two female MPs spewing this Woke drivel

    What about the rights of the woman who got her face melted? And her kids, likewise? Don't they have the right to be defended from failed asylum seeking Afghan perverts with criminal records who should have been deported???

    What happened to feminism? What happened to sticking up for women?
    Along not dissimilar lines, this is utterly bonkers

    https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/humphrey-burke-free-two-years-after-sentence-kick-prison-guard-to-death/
    Hard not to lapse into despair
    I see the usual right-wing dog-whistles are still going off.

    They need to catch this loon (the attacker, not the OP) and lock him up for a long time.

    The attacker's asylum status is utterly irrelevant. Plenty of women get attacked / raped / murdered by white, British born nutters with a UK family history that goes back centuries, possibly millennia. Statistically, immigrants are not the issue simply because it is a numbers game. There are far more non-immigrants here.

    But I suppose a chance to bash some bl**dy foreigner is just too triggering...
    And while studies vary, they broadly show that immigrants commit fewer or similar numbers of crimes to non-immigrants.
    Citation required
    Certainly.

    Citation: bondegezou on PoliticalBetting 2nd Feb 2024
  • LeonLeon Posts: 44,916
    Done a bit of research

    Here are old French imperial veterans discussing the legendary canards de Cholon in 2010; they seem to believe it might be true, one insists it is true

    https://www.anciens-cols-bleus.net/t13670p875-operations-de-guerre-indochine-tome-3
  • Survation have started doing fortnightly polls.

    https://www.survation.com/labour-maintains-a-stable-17-point-lead/

    NEW: Westminster Voting Intention from Survation’s fortnightly tracker.

    LAB 44 (-1)
    CON 27 (-1)
    LD 11 (+1)
    GRN 3 (+1)
    RFM 7 (-1)
    SNP 4 (+2)
    OTH 5 (+1)

    F/w 30th - 31st January. Changes vs. 18th December 2023.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 49,437
    edited February 2

    Selebian said:

    Lay the Biden/Trump combo? Maybe - how long until the nominees are set?

    I'm already exposed enough on a second Trump presidency, so I don't think I'll go for it. Green either way on Biden after backing ages ago and trading out (but I traded out far too early as I got cold feet on that :disappointed: ) Trump wins presidency, I lose. Otherwise I'm good. But then, Trump wins presidency and we all lose. I won't really care that much about the bet if that happens.

    The rules say
    "For this market, nominees will be determined according to each party's national convention"
    ie July for the GOP and August for the Dems.

    So Trump getting disqualified or not should be resolved in time, but him getting jailed (in the rather optimistic event that they manage to get that done before the election) wouldn't be. And the grim reaper only has 5 or 6 months respectively to win this bet for you.
    For what should be a simple two horse race, there’s way too many variables in this presidential cycle.

    I think the value must be in laying both Trump and Biden as nominees and as next president - but, as we are often reminded, “events” tend not to happen as often as we think they do.

    (But what the hell do I know, I’d have given you at least 20/1 against Lewis Hamilton signing for Ferrari).
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