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  • OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 33,344
    kle4 said:

    Cyclefree said:

    I'm a great believer in the positive and negative power of corporate culture. Any organisation - especially large and long-established ones - have a corporate culture within them. These are often set by the founder(s), and can take years to change as long-serving staff are understandably resistant to change.

    Corporate cultures can be positive for the organisation, or can be negative. Because of the resistance to change, negative cultures (or aspects of culture) can take years to turn around.

    The Post Office, at top level, not postmasters, appears to have a rotten corporate culture. I fear it's not just the top bods who need to change, but many people within the organisation.

    Yup: culture beats strategy hands down.

    You start with change at the top and you keep going until you hit the layer you need, the one that is worthwhile and then you make them feel - through reward and praise - that they are doing the right thing by doing the right thing. It takes time and hard work and persistence. It can be done. But only if you first realise it needs to be done. The PO has not even got to that point yet.
    The PO hasn’t got to the “yes, we fucked up” point. Yet.
    At this point they might as well never do so, it's far far too late to get any credit or benefit from accepting responsibility. Just commit to being the villains of the piece.
    Surely it is time for the PO board to do the 'honourable' thing and resign en masse. The shareholders (!) can then appoint replacements, and they can then make the necessary employee changes.
  • TimSTimS Posts: 12,720

    Fishing said:

    ydoethur said:

    Heh


    An interesting parallel, which fails because we don't really have a metric system in the U.K.

    We're inching towards it by there's still a fair way to go.
    Ireland and Canada also have various wonderful anomalies, e.g. this sign I once saw in Ireland: "Speed Limit 60 km/h next 3 miles".

    Also here, milk is sold in 454 Ml cartons, because we don't want to admit we still think in pints, while juice or squash is sold in litres.

    I give my height and weight in Imperial, and order pints of beer but think of petrol in £/l.

    It's all bizarre and rather wonderful. You wouldn't design it how it's turned out, but it seems to work. Like the Monarchy.
    I use metric for my weight and Imperial for my height! And in the pub I buy beer by the pint and wine by the 250ml!
    250ml glasses of wine do sound less problematic that a half pint of wine, which is what they (almost) are.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 54,668
    This is almost but not quite as spooky as my night at the Destrehan Hotel in Louisiana. Which was unquestionably the closest I have come to a paranormal experience of “haunting”

    A photo I took during my night at the Destrehan. Even now - thinking about it - makes me shudder



  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 41,947
    edited January 13

    Fishing said:

    ydoethur said:

    Heh


    An interesting parallel, which fails because we don't really have a metric system in the U.K.

    We're inching towards it by there's still a fair way to go.
    Ireland and Canada also have various wonderful anomalies, e.g. this sign I once saw in Ireland: "Speed Limit 60 km/h next 3 miles".

    Also here, milk is sold in 454 Ml cartons, because we don't want to admit we still think in pints, while juice or squash is sold in litres.

    I give my height and weight in Imperial, and order pints of beer but think of petrol in £/l.

    It's all bizarre and rather wonderful. You wouldn't design it how it's turned out, but it seems to work. Like the Monarchy.
    I use metric for my weight and Imperial for my height! And in the pub I buy beer by the pint and wine by the 250ml!
    You drink 250 ml glasses of wine? That's a big measure. Just 3 of those is a bottle.
  • FF43FF43 Posts: 17,208
    ydoethur said:

    Dura_Ace said:

    isam said:

    Peter Oborne reckons Sir Keir is fibbing about Brexit at the moment, and will slowly take us back into the EU if he becomes PM. Probably right, he u-turns on every other pledge and we know what he really thinks on this one

    https://x.com/timesradio/status/1746109837195563119?s=46&t=CW4pL-mMpTqsJXCdjW0Z6Q

    That would be astute and probably quite popular politics from SKS.

    He can't afford to give the tories Brexit as a wedge issue before the election as there is nothing they would like better in the nuggets of anthracite that pass for their hearts than to re-litigate the 2019 GBD election.

    Rejoin is just common sense and inevitable anyway. Just need more gammons to be killed by Carling/Bennie Hedgehogs.
    No, we will never go back to how it was before, or more so.

    It's possible we might Rejoin a changed Europe, which has different membership arrangements for different tiers, but not the status quo ante bellum.
    Ironically, with our opt outs that's not far off the status quo ante bellum.

    I hope he doesn't try to take us back into Europe though, either openly or covertly. We're out, for good or for ill, and trying to reverse that would waste a lot more time, energy and money that we simply can't spare right now.
    No-one including Starmer is honest about the choices having the UK. Brexit has failed. It's crap but we're stuck with it for the foreseeable future. The discussion needs to be about what compromises we prepared to make to limit the damage.
  • Dura_AceDura_Ace Posts: 13,677

    ...

    Cyclefree said:

    Interesting little snippet from the Post Office Board:

    Simon Jeffreys, a non-Executive Director and Chair of the Audit, Risk and Compliance Committee is also -

    "Simon chairs the Board of St James Place International plc, and is Chair of the Audit and Risk Committees of Templeton Emerging Markets Investment Trust plc, SimCorp A/S, a listed Danish financial services software company, and the Crown Prosecution Service."

    Starmer fans please explain!
    Malmesbury should get this for his Juke (or whatever piece of shit he has).


  • algarkirkalgarkirk Posts: 12,360
    isam said:

    Peter Oborne reckons Sir Keir is fibbing about Brexit at the moment, and will slowly take us back into the EU if he becomes PM. Probably right, he u-turns on every other pledge and we know what he really thinks on this one

    https://x.com/timesradio/status/1746109837195563119?s=46&t=CW4pL-mMpTqsJXCdjW0Z6Q

    This is a massive over simplification. Firstly Oborne knows perfectly well the routes by which Starmer can lose the election, and opening up the EU question is one of the best.

    Secondly he knows that there is not a 'slowly' way back into EU membership, but only a way which engages us in a deeply acrimonious debate in which the outcome is unknown in political and personal terms, and which will involve well publicised key decisions which are absolutely binary - parliamentary decisions, referendum, making application, process, acceptance, terms and conditions, joining.

    The idea of opening all that up from cold in an election campaign is unthinkable. He might in the manifesto say 'we shall continue to review our relationship with the EU and seek to act in ways which strengthen the UK's trading and political position' but that's about all it is reasonable to expect. This election will be dirty enough already.
  • boulayboulay Posts: 5,412
    Leon said:

    This is almost but not quite as spooky as my night at the Destrehan Hotel in Louisiana. Which was unquestionably the closest I have come to a paranormal experience of “haunting”

    A photo I took during my night at the Destrehan. Even now - thinking about it - makes me shudder



    That ghost baby is clearly AI, you can tell by the hands.
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 41,947
    boulay said:

    Leon said:

    This is almost but not quite as spooky as my night at the Destrehan Hotel in Louisiana. Which was unquestionably the closest I have come to a paranormal experience of “haunting”

    A photo I took during my night at the Destrehan. Even now - thinking about it - makes me shudder



    That ghost baby is clearly AI, you can tell by the hands.
    Which means he's banned. We have a "no AI pics" rule.
  • StuartinromfordStuartinromford Posts: 17,069

    isam said:

    Peter Oborne reckons Sir Keir is fibbing about Brexit at the moment, and will slowly take us back into the EU if he becomes PM. Probably right, he u-turns on every other pledge and we know what he really thinks on this one

    https://x.com/timesradio/status/1746109837195563119?s=46&t=CW4pL-mMpTqsJXCdjW0Z6Q

    Let's hope so!
    Why? Do you think SKS has a mandate for whatever he likes provided he wins in November?

    Everything has a political consequence. And those are far greater if you don't have a mandate, and it does eventually catch-up with you.
    Depends if it's a success or not.

    The Conservatives had a mandate for the Community Charge, but it didn't stop it being a millstone round their necks.

    They didn't have a mandate for increasing VAT in the 1979 budget, but it wasn't much of an issue by the next election.

    Clearly, it is morally better if a government sets out plans in its manifesto, but I don't think any government has really stuck to them afterwards.

    I wouldn't advise this, and I don't think anyone would do this, but I wonder what would happen if a party ran on "We know Britain is in a mess, but we're not sure how bad it is. If elected, we will find out and do our best to fix it"?

    Basically, the Interim Manager approach. Looking at things like the Post Office, it might be what we need.

    Is it really any less honest than the fantasy policies we're likely to get?
  • FF43FF43 Posts: 17,208

    kle4 said:

    Cyclefree said:

    I'm a great believer in the positive and negative power of corporate culture. Any organisation - especially large and long-established ones - have a corporate culture within them. These are often set by the founder(s), and can take years to change as long-serving staff are understandably resistant to change.

    Corporate cultures can be positive for the organisation, or can be negative. Because of the resistance to change, negative cultures (or aspects of culture) can take years to turn around.

    The Post Office, at top level, not postmasters, appears to have a rotten corporate culture. I fear it's not just the top bods who need to change, but many people within the organisation.

    Yup: culture beats strategy hands down.

    You start with change at the top and you keep going until you hit the layer you need, the one that is worthwhile and then you make them feel - through reward and praise - that they are doing the right thing by doing the right thing. It takes time and hard work and persistence. It can be done. But only if you first realise it needs to be done. The PO has not even got to that point yet.
    The PO hasn’t got to the “yes, we fucked up” point. Yet.
    At this point they might as well never do so, it's far far too late to get any credit or benefit from accepting responsibility. Just commit to being the villains of the piece.
    Surely it is time for the PO board to do the 'honourable' thing and resign en masse. The shareholders (!) can then appoint replacements, and they can then make the necessary employee changes.
    In general I think it better to hold the current board accountable. For the first time. Accountable for sorting out their own mess. But that accountability needs to be tied down with rigorous sanctions if they don't fix the problem.
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 41,798
    Oth I deplore personalised number plates but I finally saw a cool one. Somewhat negated by what it’s attached to but gather ye rosebuds while ye may


  • AverageNinjaAverageNinja Posts: 1,169
    https://x.com/toryvote_/status/1745561079109886215

    We should be so proud of our country 🇬🇧

    @RishiSunak and @LeeAndersonMP_ react 👇

    Is it a good idea to let Sunak campaign?
  • OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 33,344
    FF43 said:

    kle4 said:

    Cyclefree said:

    I'm a great believer in the positive and negative power of corporate culture. Any organisation - especially large and long-established ones - have a corporate culture within them. These are often set by the founder(s), and can take years to change as long-serving staff are understandably resistant to change.

    Corporate cultures can be positive for the organisation, or can be negative. Because of the resistance to change, negative cultures (or aspects of culture) can take years to turn around.

    The Post Office, at top level, not postmasters, appears to have a rotten corporate culture. I fear it's not just the top bods who need to change, but many people within the organisation.

    Yup: culture beats strategy hands down.

    You start with change at the top and you keep going until you hit the layer you need, the one that is worthwhile and then you make them feel - through reward and praise - that they are doing the right thing by doing the right thing. It takes time and hard work and persistence. It can be done. But only if you first realise it needs to be done. The PO has not even got to that point yet.
    The PO hasn’t got to the “yes, we fucked up” point. Yet.
    At this point they might as well never do so, it's far far too late to get any credit or benefit from accepting responsibility. Just commit to being the villains of the piece.
    Surely it is time for the PO board to do the 'honourable' thing and resign en masse. The shareholders (!) can then appoint replacements, and they can then make the necessary employee changes.
    In general I think it better to hold the current board accountable. For the first time. Accountable for sorting out their own mess. But that accountability needs to be tied down with rigorous sanctions if they don't fix the problem.
    If they were competent to do it, maybe.
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 62,749
    edited January 13
    Postmistress confirms she is to stand against Davey at the GE

    https://twitter.com/YvonneNewMalden/status/1745975752531534126?t=Zu_eZZPNQwI4ac_U7dEybg&s=19

    I would be delighted if Alan Bates stood in our constituency as with boundary changes he now does and I would vote for him without a second thought
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 41,947
    algarkirk said:

    isam said:

    Peter Oborne reckons Sir Keir is fibbing about Brexit at the moment, and will slowly take us back into the EU if he becomes PM. Probably right, he u-turns on every other pledge and we know what he really thinks on this one

    https://x.com/timesradio/status/1746109837195563119?s=46&t=CW4pL-mMpTqsJXCdjW0Z6Q

    This is a massive over simplification. Firstly Oborne knows perfectly well the routes by which Starmer can lose the election, and opening up the EU question is one of the best.

    Secondly he knows that there is not a 'slowly' way back into EU membership, but only a way which engages us in a deeply acrimonious debate in which the outcome is unknown in political and personal terms, and which will involve well publicised key decisions which are absolutely binary - parliamentary decisions, referendum, making application, process, acceptance, terms and conditions, joining.

    The idea of opening all that up from cold in an election campaign is unthinkable. He might in the manifesto say 'we shall continue to review our relationship with the EU and seek to act in ways which strengthen the UK's trading and political position' but that's about all it is reasonable to expect. This election will be dirty enough already.
    Yes he's about locking in the election win not rolling the dice to chase a bigger win at the risk of no win at all.

    Labour will ...

    Cancel Brexit
    Let anybody into the country
    Borrow and spend like a drunken sailor
    Be soft on crime
    Not respect the Union Jack
    Persecute drivers
    Let men pretend to be women

    That off the top of my head is a list of the main things being closed down. By closed down I mean give the Cons and their media patsies and enablers no ammo whatsoever to give the charge any traction with anybody paying attention.
  • TimSTimS Posts: 12,720

    Postmistress confirms she is to stand against Davey at the GE

    https://twitter.com/YvonneNewMalden/status/1745975752531534126?t=Zu_eZZPNQwI4ac_U7dEybg&s=19

    I would be delighted if Alan Bates stood in our constituency as with boundary changes he now does and I would vote for him without a second thought

    Tory win in K&S incoming.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 48,476

    Postmistress confirms she is to stand against Davey at the GE

    https://twitter.com/YvonneNewMalden/status/1745975752531534126?t=Zu_eZZPNQwI4ac_U7dEybg&s=19

    I would be delighted if Alan Bates stood in our constituency as with boundary changes he now does and I would vote for him without a second thought

    Mr Bates has many talents, but do these really make him suitable for Parliament?
  • Foxy said:

    Postmistress confirms she is to stand against Davey at the GE

    https://twitter.com/YvonneNewMalden/status/1745975752531534126?t=Zu_eZZPNQwI4ac_U7dEybg&s=19

    I would be delighted if Alan Bates stood in our constituency as with boundary changes he now does and I would vote for him without a second thought

    Mr Bates has many talents, but do these really make him suitable for Parliament?
    When comparing him to the vast majority of present mps he is a colossus
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 48,476
    TimS said:

    Postmistress confirms she is to stand against Davey at the GE

    https://twitter.com/YvonneNewMalden/status/1745975752531534126?t=Zu_eZZPNQwI4ac_U7dEybg&s=19

    I would be delighted if Alan Bates stood in our constituency as with boundary changes he now does and I would vote for him without a second thought

    Tory win in K&S incoming.
    Nah, Davey will win.
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 34,582

    Oth I deplore personalised number plates but I finally saw a cool one. Somewhat negated by what it’s attached to but gather ye rosebuds while ye may


    Cool why?
  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 10,696

    Postmistress confirms she is to stand against Davey at the GE

    https://twitter.com/YvonneNewMalden/status/1745975752531534126?t=Zu_eZZPNQwI4ac_U7dEybg&s=19

    I would be delighted if Alan Bates stood in our constituency as with boundary changes he now does and I would vote for him without a second thought

    Nobody is confirmed until they’ve ponied up their deposit and are on the SOPN.
  • TimSTimS Posts: 12,720
    Foxy said:

    TimS said:

    Postmistress confirms she is to stand against Davey at the GE

    https://twitter.com/YvonneNewMalden/status/1745975752531534126?t=Zu_eZZPNQwI4ac_U7dEybg&s=19

    I would be delighted if Alan Bates stood in our constituency as with boundary changes he now does and I would vote for him without a second thought

    Tory win in K&S incoming.
    Nah, Davey will win.
    I wouldn’t be too sure. Particularly if she’s the only such candidate in the country. She’ll become a lightning rod for protest votes. Davey lost the seat in 2015 remember.
  • Alphabet_SoupAlphabet_Soup Posts: 3,183
    kinabalu said:

    boulay said:

    Leon said:

    This is almost but not quite as spooky as my night at the Destrehan Hotel in Louisiana. Which was unquestionably the closest I have come to a paranormal experience of “haunting”

    A photo I took during my night at the Destrehan. Even now - thinking about it - makes me shudder



    That ghost baby is clearly AI, you can tell by the hands.
    Which means he's banned. We have a "no AI pics" rule.
    Can see the 'A' bit. Struggling to find the 'I'.

  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 34,582
    kinabalu said:

    Fishing said:

    ydoethur said:

    Heh


    An interesting parallel, which fails because we don't really have a metric system in the U.K.

    We're inching towards it by there's still a fair way to go.
    Ireland and Canada also have various wonderful anomalies, e.g. this sign I once saw in Ireland: "Speed Limit 60 km/h next 3 miles".

    Also here, milk is sold in 454 Ml cartons, because we don't want to admit we still think in pints, while juice or squash is sold in litres.

    I give my height and weight in Imperial, and order pints of beer but think of petrol in £/l.

    It's all bizarre and rather wonderful. You wouldn't design it how it's turned out, but it seems to work. Like the Monarchy.
    I use metric for my weight and Imperial for my height! And in the pub I buy beer by the pint and wine by the 250ml!
    You drink 250 ml glasses of wine? That's a big measure. Just 3 of those is a bottle.
    You don't have to drink 3 glasses mind.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 54,668
    Ok the most extraordinary coincidence just happened. But I can’t tell you coz I’m having a “gin class”. First things first


  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 10,696
    kinabalu said:

    boulay said:

    Leon said:

    This is almost but not quite as spooky as my night at the Destrehan Hotel in Louisiana. Which was unquestionably the closest I have come to a paranormal experience of “haunting”

    A photo I took during my night at the Destrehan. Even now - thinking about it - makes me shudder



    That ghost baby is clearly AI, you can tell by the hands.
    Which means he's banned. We have a "no AI pics" rule.
    I thought the rule only applied to one poster, who is not boulay.
  • FF43FF43 Posts: 17,208

    FF43 said:

    kle4 said:

    Cyclefree said:

    I'm a great believer in the positive and negative power of corporate culture. Any organisation - especially large and long-established ones - have a corporate culture within them. These are often set by the founder(s), and can take years to change as long-serving staff are understandably resistant to change.

    Corporate cultures can be positive for the organisation, or can be negative. Because of the resistance to change, negative cultures (or aspects of culture) can take years to turn around.

    The Post Office, at top level, not postmasters, appears to have a rotten corporate culture. I fear it's not just the top bods who need to change, but many people within the organisation.

    Yup: culture beats strategy hands down.

    You start with change at the top and you keep going until you hit the layer you need, the one that is worthwhile and then you make them feel - through reward and praise - that they are doing the right thing by doing the right thing. It takes time and hard work and persistence. It can be done. But only if you first realise it needs to be done. The PO has not even got to that point yet.
    The PO hasn’t got to the “yes, we fucked up” point. Yet.
    At this point they might as well never do so, it's far far too late to get any credit or benefit from accepting responsibility. Just commit to being the villains of the piece.
    Surely it is time for the PO board to do the 'honourable' thing and resign en masse. The shareholders (!) can then appoint replacements, and they can then make the necessary employee changes.
    In general I think it better to hold the current board accountable. For the first time. Accountable for sorting out their own mess. But that accountability needs to be tied down with rigorous sanctions if they don't fix the problem.
    If they were competent to do it, maybe.
    That's up to them. If they don't do the right thing now they will get the consequences, if we hold their feet properly to the fire.
  • squareroot2squareroot2 Posts: 6,662
    Carnyx said:

    Foxy said:

    Cyclefree said:

    Chris said:

    tlg86 said:

    Surely anyone who is prosecuted for the post office scandal will argue it will be impossible for them to get a fair trial. Whether that washes, I don’t know, but they’re bound to try it.

    Why would they be able to argue that, any more than - for example - someone who is charged with committing a murder that has excited widespread outrage?
    They can't. This is always brought up every time there is a crime which is in the news and it never happens. First, there will be no prosecutions until the Inquiry is done. Then the police and CPS will need to review all the evidence which has come out of the Inquiry and may also need to interview others. So I doubt there will be prosecutions this year. Next year maybe. If they didn't happen until 2026 I would not be surprised.

    Also remember that the burden of proof for conspiracy charges is high.

    Are there any clawback provisions in the bonuses awarded to PO managers? There ought to be.

    I must say that the word "bonus" now sets my teeth on edge in the same way as the phrase "lessons learned". Corporate looting would be more accurate.
    The PO Scandal has finally caught the zeitgeist, despite many of us knowing about it for years. In my case it was from Private Eye that I found the story a decade or so ago.

    The ITV drama made a human story out of what is superficially boring: computers, accounting and sub-post offices. It is a very emblematic story of how Britain (and for that matter many other countries) has evolved: ordinary people doing ordinary jobs being screwed over by a system designed not for the common interest, but rather for the financial interests at the top and their political friends.

    It strikes a chord with that populist feeling, and feeds the suspicion that any "reform" that we are going to see in the way the country is run will screw over the common folk again in favour of those lobbying interests.

    That's why it's reasonated.

    It speaks to every part of the political spectrum and strikes at that fundamental decent British sense of fair play.
    The husband of one of the jailed postmasters (mistresses?) was on R4 this morning recounting how he was beaten up three times after a 'pregnant thief jailed' headline in the local paper.
    I feel it's very much swings and roundabouts on the fundamental decent British sense of fair play front.
    Also rather lacking on PB of late. Notably a rather partisan rush to blame Mr Davey and SKS for everything right down to the exact shade of beige used for the wpbs (PO staff for the use of).
    That's nothing to the shite being poured over Vennells. There are others who need to share the blame.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,154
    Foxy said:

    Postmistress confirms she is to stand against Davey at the GE

    https://twitter.com/YvonneNewMalden/status/1745975752531534126?t=Zu_eZZPNQwI4ac_U7dEybg&s=19

    I would be delighted if Alan Bates stood in our constituency as with boundary changes he now does and I would vote for him without a second thought

    Mr Bates has many talents, but do these really make him suitable for Parliament?
    Hasn't stopped the likes of Rees-Mogg, Fabricant, Burgon, O'Mara, Johnson, Dorries, Huhne, Moran, etc.

    I mean - how much worse could he *be?*
  • noneoftheabovenoneoftheabove Posts: 22,599

    isam said:

    Peter Oborne reckons Sir Keir is fibbing about Brexit at the moment, and will slowly take us back into the EU if he becomes PM. Probably right, he u-turns on every other pledge and we know what he really thinks on this one

    https://x.com/timesradio/status/1746109837195563119?s=46&t=CW4pL-mMpTqsJXCdjW0Z6Q

    Let's hope so!
    Why? Do you think SKS has a mandate for whatever he likes provided he wins in November?

    Everything has a political consequence. And those are far greater if you don't have a mandate, and it does eventually catch-up with you.
    Relative to the current Tory mandate on their third leader, who lost his own party leadership contest, and having flip flopped on numerous policies, Starmers mandate, if he gets a clear win, must be pretty broad.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 54,668
    I’m feeling cheerier

    What snowflake flagged the spooky doll pic from Louisiana?!
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 34,582

    kinabalu said:

    boulay said:

    Leon said:

    This is almost but not quite as spooky as my night at the Destrehan Hotel in Louisiana. Which was unquestionably the closest I have come to a paranormal experience of “haunting”

    A photo I took during my night at the Destrehan. Even now - thinking about it - makes me shudder



    That ghost baby is clearly AI, you can tell by the hands.
    Which means he's banned. We have a "no AI pics" rule.
    I thought the rule only applied to one poster, who is not boulay.
    But Leon posted it. It may not be AI though, it could be photoshopped or some projection trick.

    One thing I am certain it isn't is a photo of a ghost baby.
  • StuartinromfordStuartinromford Posts: 17,069
    TimS said:

    Foxy said:

    TimS said:

    Postmistress confirms she is to stand against Davey at the GE

    https://twitter.com/YvonneNewMalden/status/1745975752531534126?t=Zu_eZZPNQwI4ac_U7dEybg&s=19

    I would be delighted if Alan Bates stood in our constituency as with boundary changes he now does and I would vote for him without a second thought

    Tory win in K&S incoming.
    Nah, Davey will win.
    I wouldn’t be too sure. Particularly if she’s the only such candidate in the country. She’ll become a lightning rod for protest votes. Davey lost the seat in 2015 remember.
    Worth noting that she's already a Kingston councillor. Whether that helps or hinders her, I'm not sure.
  • Dura_AceDura_Ace Posts: 13,677

    Oth I deplore personalised number plates but I finally saw a cool one. Somewhat negated by what it’s attached to but gather ye rosebuds while ye may


    Kick Out the Just About Managings.
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 34,582
    TimS said:

    Foxy said:

    TimS said:

    Postmistress confirms she is to stand against Davey at the GE

    https://twitter.com/YvonneNewMalden/status/1745975752531534126?t=Zu_eZZPNQwI4ac_U7dEybg&s=19

    I would be delighted if Alan Bates stood in our constituency as with boundary changes he now does and I would vote for him without a second thought

    Tory win in K&S incoming.
    Nah, Davey will win.
    I wouldn’t be too sure. Particularly if she’s the only such candidate in the country. She’ll become a lightning rod for protest votes. Davey lost the seat in 2015 remember.
    By the time of the GE this will be as relevant as ULEZ imo.
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 41,947
    Leon said:

    I’m feeling cheerier

    What snowflake flagged the spooky doll pic from Louisiana?!

    Not me. But you'll be banned for it, sadly. Least that's my understanding.
  • AverageNinjaAverageNinja Posts: 1,169
    I don’t remember giving Liz Truss a mandate to crash the economy
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 41,947

    isam said:

    Peter Oborne reckons Sir Keir is fibbing about Brexit at the moment, and will slowly take us back into the EU if he becomes PM. Probably right, he u-turns on every other pledge and we know what he really thinks on this one

    https://x.com/timesradio/status/1746109837195563119?s=46&t=CW4pL-mMpTqsJXCdjW0Z6Q

    Let's hope so!
    Why? Do you think SKS has a mandate for whatever he likes provided he wins in November?

    Everything has a political consequence. And those are far greater if you don't have a mandate, and it does eventually catch-up with you.
    Relative to the current Tory mandate on their third leader, who lost his own party leadership contest, and having flip flopped on numerous policies, Starmers mandate, if he gets a clear win, must be pretty broad.
    He's going to have a thumping great "not the tories" mandate.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 54,668

    kinabalu said:

    boulay said:

    Leon said:

    This is almost but not quite as spooky as my night at the Destrehan Hotel in Louisiana. Which was unquestionably the closest I have come to a paranormal experience of “haunting”

    A photo I took during my night at the Destrehan. Even now - thinking about it - makes me shudder



    That ghost baby is clearly AI, you can tell by the hands.
    Which means he's banned. We have a "no AI pics" rule.
    I thought the rule only applied to one poster, who is not boulay.
    But Leon posted it. It may not be AI though, it could be photoshopped or some projection trick.

    One thing I am certain it isn't is a photo of a ghost baby.
    It’s not AI it’s a doll

    The “hotel” had a room full of them. They are some of the scariest photos I’ve ever taken. Which seems right as it was one of the scariest places - psychodramatically - that I’ve ever slept



  • noneoftheabovenoneoftheabove Posts: 22,599
    kinabalu said:

    isam said:

    Peter Oborne reckons Sir Keir is fibbing about Brexit at the moment, and will slowly take us back into the EU if he becomes PM. Probably right, he u-turns on every other pledge and we know what he really thinks on this one

    https://x.com/timesradio/status/1746109837195563119?s=46&t=CW4pL-mMpTqsJXCdjW0Z6Q

    Let's hope so!
    Why? Do you think SKS has a mandate for whatever he likes provided he wins in November?

    Everything has a political consequence. And those are far greater if you don't have a mandate, and it does eventually catch-up with you.
    Relative to the current Tory mandate on their third leader, who lost his own party leadership contest, and having flip flopped on numerous policies, Starmers mandate, if he gets a clear win, must be pretty broad.
    He's going to have a thumping great "not the tories" mandate.
    Yes, I'd say Not the Tories is the biggest chunk of the electorate at about 25%.

    20% Labour, 15% Tories, 10% Not Labour, 30% The rest
  • LeonLeon Posts: 54,668
    kinabalu said:

    Leon said:

    I’m feeling cheerier

    What snowflake flagged the spooky doll pic from Louisiana?!

    Not me. But you'll be banned for it, sadly. Least that's my understanding.
    ITS NOT AI
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 48,476
    Dura_Ace said:

    Oth I deplore personalised number plates but I finally saw a cool one. Somewhat negated by what it’s attached to but gather ye rosebuds while ye may


    Kick Out the Just About Managings.
    Brothers and Sisters, the time has come for each and everyone of you to decide whether you are going to be the problem or whether you are going to be the solution..
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 41,947

    kinabalu said:

    isam said:

    Peter Oborne reckons Sir Keir is fibbing about Brexit at the moment, and will slowly take us back into the EU if he becomes PM. Probably right, he u-turns on every other pledge and we know what he really thinks on this one

    https://x.com/timesradio/status/1746109837195563119?s=46&t=CW4pL-mMpTqsJXCdjW0Z6Q

    Let's hope so!
    Why? Do you think SKS has a mandate for whatever he likes provided he wins in November?

    Everything has a political consequence. And those are far greater if you don't have a mandate, and it does eventually catch-up with you.
    Relative to the current Tory mandate on their third leader, who lost his own party leadership contest, and having flip flopped on numerous policies, Starmers mandate, if he gets a clear win, must be pretty broad.
    He's going to have a thumping great "not the tories" mandate.
    Yes, I'd say Not the Tories is the biggest chunk of the electorate at about 25%.

    20% Labour, 15% Tories, 10% Not Labour, 30% The rest
    Could be right. An interesting way to look at it.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 51,578
    Cyclefree said:

    ...

    IanB2 said:

    ydoethur said:

    Cyclefree said:

    Carnyx said:

    Cyclefree said:

    Well this thread is fun ....

    https://x.com/danneidle/status/1745920610893434993?s=61&t=wWWeJB3W_ksMJK4LA1OvkA

    It looks as if the Post Office has been claiming the compensation payments made to subpostmasters as tax deductible expenses. HMRC disagrees and is arguing that the PO needs to pony up ca. £100 m in tax.

    Of course this is one bit of the government paying money to another bit. But still - delightful to see a body prosecuting others for false accounting not being able to get its tax affairs in order.

    'While the Post Office appears to have deducted compensation provisions from their taxable profits, it apparently ignored them when it came to calculating executive pay.'

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-67964064
    Their entire accounts for the past 20 years are going to have to be rewritten, aren't they.

    The whole thing will probably be worth about £3.16 by the end and the whole shebang can be bought with loose change when going to your local branch to buy some balloons, sellotape and a birthday card for a friend's 3 year old.

    Bagsy first in the queue: I will enjoy sacking everyone.
    I just read this bit of news and my eyes were out on stalks. It is an absolutely bog standard tax principle that compensation payments of this kind are not a deductible expense. You don't get tax relief for breaking the law. Any High Street accountant could tell you that. What were they thinking? How did the auditors not point it out to them?

    As for bonuses based on pre-compensation payents, they're 'aving a larf, surely? The way they've performed,they should be paying us, not the other way round.

    I should say the PO must be technically insolvent as of now. There is no way it is going to be able meet its liabilities when they are all totted up. Of course that means the bill will be passed on to me and thee, but hopefully we will get some say in the matter of retribution. I'd go for garotting of those responsible, starting with the Board and working my way down.

    Others, Ms Cyclefree, might want something a bit harsher, but I'm a tolerant soul.
    The whole problem is they were not thinking. Not capable of it, you see.
    The argument they could use is the same one Bates uses - that the payments are (significantly) reimbursement. The original shortfalls were made good by the SPMRs and generated taxable income that added to the bottom line. Hence reversing this out should be deductible.

    Of course, this won’t, and shouldn’t, fly. But it’s a way of looking at it.
    To the extent that it is returning what was never theirs in the first place I think that is ok. The accounts really ought to be rewritten but then since this is a Government owned company it wouldn't make sense to be too particular about it. The real problem is that the PO doesn't know the figures. It probably lost track of them years ago, if indeed it ever had track. (The whole organisation seems utterly shambolic so that would hardly be surprising.)

    The punitive element, which one assumes now will be large, has got no chance of getting past HMRC, public body or not.

    Frankly you have to question whether it is still a going concern in the normal sense. Caretaker administration beckons?

    I really don't know. The whole bloody mess keeps getting worse.

    On your point

    "Caretaker administration beckons?"

    Surely a magnificent opportunity to reward some deserving Conservative donors.
    Why not an actual caretaker? They could hardly do any worse.

    Jani-Tory?
  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 10,696

    TimS said:

    Foxy said:

    TimS said:

    Postmistress confirms she is to stand against Davey at the GE

    https://twitter.com/YvonneNewMalden/status/1745975752531534126?t=Zu_eZZPNQwI4ac_U7dEybg&s=19

    I would be delighted if Alan Bates stood in our constituency as with boundary changes he now does and I would vote for him without a second thought

    Tory win in K&S incoming.
    Nah, Davey will win.
    I wouldn’t be too sure. Particularly if she’s the only such candidate in the country. She’ll become a lightning rod for protest votes. Davey lost the seat in 2015 remember.
    Worth noting that she's already a Kingston councillor. Whether that helps or hinders her, I'm not sure.
    It suggests she’s serious, but it also suggests this isn’t just about the Post Office scandal. She’ll have a local record of things she’s supported or opposed. Reporting suggests she’s a small-c conservative in terms of council affairs.

    How much salience will the Post Office scandal have in November or whenever the election is? She’d do better having a go at the London Assembly perhaps.
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 41,947
    edited January 13
    Leon said:

    kinabalu said:

    Leon said:

    I’m feeling cheerier

    What snowflake flagged the spooky doll pic from Louisiana?!

    Not me. But you'll be banned for it, sadly. Least that's my understanding.
    ITS NOT AI
    What is it then? An actual doll? Odd thing to have in your room.
  • boulayboulay Posts: 5,412
    Leon said:

    kinabalu said:

    boulay said:

    Leon said:

    This is almost but not quite as spooky as my night at the Destrehan Hotel in Louisiana. Which was unquestionably the closest I have come to a paranormal experience of “haunting”

    A photo I took during my night at the Destrehan. Even now - thinking about it - makes me shudder



    That ghost baby is clearly AI, you can tell by the hands.
    Which means he's banned. We have a "no AI pics" rule.
    I thought the rule only applied to one poster, who is not boulay.
    But Leon posted it. It may not be AI though, it could be photoshopped or some projection trick.

    One thing I am certain it isn't is a photo of a ghost baby.
    It’s not AI it’s a doll

    The “hotel” had a room full of them. They are some of the scariest photos I’ve ever taken. Which seems right as it was one of the scariest places - psychodramatically - that I’ve ever slept



    Apologies for starting this, I was just being a knob writing that something that doesn’t exist (a ghost baby) can’t be real because the hands that aren’t in the picture aren’t realistic as per an oft remarked problem with AI. I didn’t realise people would demand your banning for doing something you haven’t done.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 70,512
    Foxy said:

    Postmistress confirms she is to stand against Davey at the GE

    https://twitter.com/YvonneNewMalden/status/1745975752531534126?t=Zu_eZZPNQwI4ac_U7dEybg&s=19

    I would be delighted if Alan Bates stood in our constituency as with boundary changes he now does and I would vote for him without a second thought

    Mr Bates has many talents, but do these really make him suitable for Parliament?
    Big_G was quite clear about not giving it any thought.
  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 10,696
    boulay said:

    Leon said:

    kinabalu said:

    boulay said:

    Leon said:

    This is almost but not quite as spooky as my night at the Destrehan Hotel in Louisiana. Which was unquestionably the closest I have come to a paranormal experience of “haunting”

    A photo I took during my night at the Destrehan. Even now - thinking about it - makes me shudder



    That ghost baby is clearly AI, you can tell by the hands.
    Which means he's banned. We have a "no AI pics" rule.
    I thought the rule only applied to one poster, who is not boulay.
    But Leon posted it. It may not be AI though, it could be photoshopped or some projection trick.

    One thing I am certain it isn't is a photo of a ghost baby.
    It’s not AI it’s a doll

    The “hotel” had a room full of them. They are some of the scariest photos I’ve ever taken. Which seems right as it was one of the scariest places - psychodramatically - that I’ve ever slept



    Apologies for starting this, I was just being a knob writing that something that doesn’t exist (a ghost baby) can’t be real because the hands that aren’t in the picture aren’t realistic as per an oft remarked problem with AI. I didn’t realise people would demand your banning for doing something you haven’t done.
    Demanding people be punished for things they haven’t done is very in keeping with the political mood perhaps.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 70,512
    Leon said:

    kinabalu said:

    boulay said:

    Leon said:

    This is almost but not quite as spooky as my night at the Destrehan Hotel in Louisiana. Which was unquestionably the closest I have come to a paranormal experience of “haunting”

    A photo I took during my night at the Destrehan. Even now - thinking about it - makes me shudder



    That ghost baby is clearly AI, you can tell by the hands.
    Which means he's banned. We have a "no AI pics" rule.
    I thought the rule only applied to one poster, who is not boulay.
    But Leon posted it. It may not be AI though, it could be photoshopped or some projection trick.

    One thing I am certain it isn't is a photo of a ghost baby.
    It’s not AI it’s a doll

    The “hotel” had a room full of them. They are some of the scariest photos I’ve ever taken. Which seems right as it was one of the scariest places - psychodramatically - that I’ve ever slept



    Going out on a limb here, but I think you might be a bit suggestible.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 54,668
    boulay said:

    Leon said:

    kinabalu said:

    boulay said:

    Leon said:

    This is almost but not quite as spooky as my night at the Destrehan Hotel in Louisiana. Which was unquestionably the closest I have come to a paranormal experience of “haunting”

    A photo I took during my night at the Destrehan. Even now - thinking about it - makes me shudder



    That ghost baby is clearly AI, you can tell by the hands.
    Which means he's banned. We have a "no AI pics" rule.
    I thought the rule only applied to one poster, who is not boulay.
    But Leon posted it. It may not be AI though, it could be photoshopped or some projection trick.

    One thing I am certain it isn't is a photo of a ghost baby.
    It’s not AI it’s a doll

    The “hotel” had a room full of them. They are some of the scariest photos I’ve ever taken. Which seems right as it was one of the scariest places - psychodramatically - that I’ve ever slept



    Apologies for starting this, I was just being a knob writing that something that doesn’t exist (a ghost baby) can’t be real because the hands that aren’t in the picture aren’t realistic as per an oft remarked problem with AI. I didn’t realise people would demand your banning for doing something you haven’t done.
    I humiliate people on here - or infuriate them. Sometimes both. They all want me banned, and they jump at any opportunity - as you can see



  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 41,947
    boulay said:

    Leon said:

    kinabalu said:

    boulay said:

    Leon said:

    This is almost but not quite as spooky as my night at the Destrehan Hotel in Louisiana. Which was unquestionably the closest I have come to a paranormal experience of “haunting”

    A photo I took during my night at the Destrehan. Even now - thinking about it - makes me shudder



    That ghost baby is clearly AI, you can tell by the hands.
    Which means he's banned. We have a "no AI pics" rule.
    I thought the rule only applied to one poster, who is not boulay.
    But Leon posted it. It may not be AI though, it could be photoshopped or some projection trick.

    One thing I am certain it isn't is a photo of a ghost baby.
    It’s not AI it’s a doll

    The “hotel” had a room full of them. They are some of the scariest photos I’ve ever taken. Which seems right as it was one of the scariest places - psychodramatically - that I’ve ever slept



    Apologies for starting this, I was just being a knob writing that something that doesn’t exist (a ghost baby) can’t be real because the hands that aren’t in the picture aren’t realistic as per an oft remarked problem with AI. I didn’t realise people would demand your banning for doing something you haven’t done.
    Not guilty to that charge. I wasn't demanding he be banned. I was just predicting it based on my understanding of site rules. I don't mind AI pics myself. Anyway the claim now is that these aren't AI they're actual dolls. In which case there's no issue and we all move on.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 54,668
    Nigelb said:

    Leon said:

    kinabalu said:

    boulay said:

    Leon said:

    This is almost but not quite as spooky as my night at the Destrehan Hotel in Louisiana. Which was unquestionably the closest I have come to a paranormal experience of “haunting”

    A photo I took during my night at the Destrehan. Even now - thinking about it - makes me shudder



    That ghost baby is clearly AI, you can tell by the hands.
    Which means he's banned. We have a "no AI pics" rule.
    I thought the rule only applied to one poster, who is not boulay.
    But Leon posted it. It may not be AI though, it could be photoshopped or some projection trick.

    One thing I am certain it isn't is a photo of a ghost baby.
    It’s not AI it’s a doll

    The “hotel” had a room full of them. They are some of the scariest photos I’ve ever taken. Which seems right as it was one of the scariest places - psychodramatically - that I’ve ever slept



    Going out on a limb here, but I think you might be a bit suggestible.
    Oh for sure, it’s called “having an imagination”. As I understand it, properly employed it can actually earn you money

    Btw the Louisiana story is genuinely hair-raising. I will tell it someday

    I will tell the raffles story in a minute. It’s quite the coincidence
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 70,512
    Leon said:

    Ok the most extraordinary coincidence just happened. But I can’t tell you coz I’m having a “gin class”. First things first


    Isn’t that a bit like Alexander Grothendieck doing GCSE maths ?
  • StillWatersStillWaters Posts: 8,095

    https://x.com/toryvote_/status/1745561079109886215

    We should be so proud of our country 🇬🇧

    @RishiSunak and @LeeAndersonMP_ react 👇

    Is it a good idea to let Sunak campaign?

    We should be proud

    There’s lots of criticism of Sunak.

    But it’s all because he’s a bit shit rather than he’s Asian or Hindu.

    Can you imagine that being the case in America?
  • StillWatersStillWaters Posts: 8,095

    kinabalu said:

    boulay said:

    Leon said:

    This is almost but not quite as spooky as my night at the Destrehan Hotel in Louisiana. Which was unquestionably the closest I have come to a paranormal experience of “haunting”

    A photo I took during my night at the Destrehan. Even now - thinking about it - makes me shudder



    That ghost baby is clearly AI, you can tell by the hands.
    Which means he's banned. We have a "no AI pics" rule.
    I thought the rule only applied to one poster, who is not boulay.
    But Leon posted it. It may not be AI though, it could be photoshopped or some projection trick.

    One thing I am certain it isn't is a photo of a ghost baby.
    Wasn’t it just a creepy doll with atmospheric lighting?
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 41,798

    Oth I deplore personalised number plates but I finally saw a cool one. Somewhat negated by what it’s attached to but gather ye rosebuds while ye may


    Cool why?
    https://youtu.be/74jS3dW0DtE?si=VX8hq8k_kBUEDaum
  • Foxy said:

    Postmistress confirms she is to stand against Davey at the GE

    https://twitter.com/YvonneNewMalden/status/1745975752531534126?t=Zu_eZZPNQwI4ac_U7dEybg&s=19

    I would be delighted if Alan Bates stood in our constituency as with boundary changes he now does and I would vote for him without a second thought

    Mr Bates has many talents, but do these really make him suitable for Parliament?
    When comparing him to the vast majority of present mps he is a colossus
    He is a remarkable man, but such a move might be perceived as gimmicky and there is nothing gimmicky about him.

    Might be a good thing however to have one or two former SPMs in the House to ask relevant questions - for example, where is Kemi Badenoch? That would be a good question right now, but nobody seems to be putting it.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 70,512
    .
    Leon said:

    Nigelb said:

    Leon said:

    kinabalu said:

    boulay said:

    Leon said:

    This is almost but not quite as spooky as my night at the Destrehan Hotel in Louisiana. Which was unquestionably the closest I have come to a paranormal experience of “haunting”

    A photo I took during my night at the Destrehan. Even now - thinking about it - makes me shudder



    That ghost baby is clearly AI, you can tell by the hands.
    Which means he's banned. We have a "no AI pics" rule.
    I thought the rule only applied to one poster, who is not boulay.
    But Leon posted it. It may not be AI though, it could be photoshopped or some projection trick.

    One thing I am certain it isn't is a photo of a ghost baby.
    It’s not AI it’s a doll

    The “hotel” had a room full of them. They are some of the scariest photos I’ve ever taken. Which seems right as it was one of the scariest places - psychodramatically - that I’ve ever slept



    Going out on a limb here, but I think you might be a bit suggestible.
    Oh for sure, it’s called “having an imagination”. As I understand it, properly employed it can actually earn you money

    Btw the Louisiana story is genuinely hair-raising. I will tell it someday

    I will tell the raffles story in a minute. It’s quite the coincidence
    You make a good point, but it hardly backs up ‘genuinely’ hair-raising.
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 42,639

    Carnyx said:

    Foxy said:

    Cyclefree said:

    Chris said:

    tlg86 said:

    Surely anyone who is prosecuted for the post office scandal will argue it will be impossible for them to get a fair trial. Whether that washes, I don’t know, but they’re bound to try it.

    Why would they be able to argue that, any more than - for example - someone who is charged with committing a murder that has excited widespread outrage?
    They can't. This is always brought up every time there is a crime which is in the news and it never happens. First, there will be no prosecutions until the Inquiry is done. Then the police and CPS will need to review all the evidence which has come out of the Inquiry and may also need to interview others. So I doubt there will be prosecutions this year. Next year maybe. If they didn't happen until 2026 I would not be surprised.

    Also remember that the burden of proof for conspiracy charges is high.

    Are there any clawback provisions in the bonuses awarded to PO managers? There ought to be.

    I must say that the word "bonus" now sets my teeth on edge in the same way as the phrase "lessons learned". Corporate looting would be more accurate.
    The PO Scandal has finally caught the zeitgeist, despite many of us knowing about it for years. In my case it was from Private Eye that I found the story a decade or so ago.

    The ITV drama made a human story out of what is superficially boring: computers, accounting and sub-post offices. It is a very emblematic story of how Britain (and for that matter many other countries) has evolved: ordinary people doing ordinary jobs being screwed over by a system designed not for the common interest, but rather for the financial interests at the top and their political friends.

    It strikes a chord with that populist feeling, and feeds the suspicion that any "reform" that we are going to see in the way the country is run will screw over the common folk again in favour of those lobbying interests.

    That's why it's reasonated.

    It speaks to every part of the political spectrum and strikes at that fundamental decent British sense of fair play.
    The husband of one of the jailed postmasters (mistresses?) was on R4 this morning recounting how he was beaten up three times after a 'pregnant thief jailed' headline in the local paper.
    I feel it's very much swings and roundabouts on the fundamental decent British sense of fair play front.
    Also rather lacking on PB of late. Notably a rather partisan rush to blame Mr Davey and SKS for everything right down to the exact shade of beige used for the wpbs (PO staff for the use of).
    That's nothing to the shite being poured over Vennells. There are others who need to share the blame.
    They need one of those things the farmer on the field behind here uses to spread the contents of the midden evenly and efficiently.
  • MoonRabbitMoonRabbit Posts: 13,353

    Leon said:

    Actually, I wonder if my weird mood is this hotel

    Raffles Phnom Penh was used by the Khmer Rouge as one of its main headquarters during the entire regime. it would have been one of the few buildings occupied in a city that was otherwise eerily deserted: deliberately emptied of its two million citizens, all driven into the countryside to farm rice and kill each other

    What happened in this building??

    The Stone Tape was a 1972 Christmas horror story written by Nigel Kneale (who wrote Quatermass). A team of scientists move into their new research facility, a renovated Victorian mansion that has a reputation for being haunted. The team investigate the phenomenon, trying to determine if the stones of the building are acting as a recording medium for past events (the "stone tape" of the play's title).

    Maybe you are tuned into the building's recording...
    The Stone Tape is one of the best bits of TV ever. A brilliant concept, brilliantly realised.
    Easily findable on YouTube 👍🏻

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnDerD1lacw
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 70,512

    Foxy said:

    Postmistress confirms she is to stand against Davey at the GE

    https://twitter.com/YvonneNewMalden/status/1745975752531534126?t=Zu_eZZPNQwI4ac_U7dEybg&s=19

    I would be delighted if Alan Bates stood in our constituency as with boundary changes he now does and I would vote for him without a second thought

    Mr Bates has many talents, but do these really make him suitable for Parliament?
    When comparing him to the vast majority of present mps he is a colossus
    He is a remarkable man, but such a move might be perceived as gimmicky and there is nothing gimmicky about him.

    Might be a good thing however to have one or two former SPMs in the House to ask relevant questions - for example, where is Kemi Badenoch? That would be a good question right now, but nobody seems to be putting it.
    Arguably one of the type of people you might want in a second chamber.
    Such an offer would be an blatant act of political pandering at present - so it’s not entirely unlikely.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 54,668
    Nigelb said:

    .

    Leon said:

    Nigelb said:

    Leon said:

    kinabalu said:

    boulay said:

    Leon said:

    This is almost but not quite as spooky as my night at the Destrehan Hotel in Louisiana. Which was unquestionably the closest I have come to a paranormal experience of “haunting”

    A photo I took during my night at the Destrehan. Even now - thinking about it - makes me shudder



    That ghost baby is clearly AI, you can tell by the hands.
    Which means he's banned. We have a "no AI pics" rule.
    I thought the rule only applied to one poster, who is not boulay.
    But Leon posted it. It may not be AI though, it could be photoshopped or some projection trick.

    One thing I am certain it isn't is a photo of a ghost baby.
    It’s not AI it’s a doll

    The “hotel” had a room full of them. They are some of the scariest photos I’ve ever taken. Which seems right as it was one of the scariest places - psychodramatically - that I’ve ever slept



    Going out on a limb here, but I think you might be a bit suggestible.
    Oh for sure, it’s called “having an imagination”. As I understand it, properly employed it can actually earn you money

    Btw the Louisiana story is genuinely hair-raising. I will tell it someday

    I will tell the raffles story in a minute. It’s quite the coincidence
    You make a good point, but it hardly backs up ‘genuinely’ hair-raising.
    I haven’t told the story! Believe it or not I am not prone to TRULY freaking out. I’m excitable and over-dramatic but that’s different

    But that night in Louisiana was eerily unsettling

  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 70,512
    Leon said:

    Nigelb said:

    .

    Leon said:

    Nigelb said:

    Leon said:

    kinabalu said:

    boulay said:

    Leon said:

    This is almost but not quite as spooky as my night at the Destrehan Hotel in Louisiana. Which was unquestionably the closest I have come to a paranormal experience of “haunting”

    A photo I took during my night at the Destrehan. Even now - thinking about it - makes me shudder



    That ghost baby is clearly AI, you can tell by the hands.
    Which means he's banned. We have a "no AI pics" rule.
    I thought the rule only applied to one poster, who is not boulay.
    But Leon posted it. It may not be AI though, it could be photoshopped or some projection trick.

    One thing I am certain it isn't is a photo of a ghost baby.
    It’s not AI it’s a doll

    The “hotel” had a room full of them. They are some of the scariest photos I’ve ever taken. Which seems right as it was one of the scariest places - psychodramatically - that I’ve ever slept



    Going out on a limb here, but I think you might be a bit suggestible.
    Oh for sure, it’s called “having an imagination”. As I understand it, properly employed it can actually earn you money

    Btw the Louisiana story is genuinely hair-raising. I will tell it someday

    I will tell the raffles story in a minute. It’s quite the coincidence
    You make a good point, but it hardly backs up ‘genuinely’ hair-raising.
    I haven’t told the story! Believe it or not I am not prone to TRULY freaking out. I’m excitable and over-dramatic but that’s different

    But that night in Louisiana was eerily unsettling

    I look forward to the story.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 51,578

    Carnyx said:

    Foxy said:

    Cyclefree said:

    Chris said:

    tlg86 said:

    Surely anyone who is prosecuted for the post office scandal will argue it will be impossible for them to get a fair trial. Whether that washes, I don’t know, but they’re bound to try it.

    Why would they be able to argue that, any more than - for example - someone who is charged with committing a murder that has excited widespread outrage?
    They can't. This is always brought up every time there is a crime which is in the news and it never happens. First, there will be no prosecutions until the Inquiry is done. Then the police and CPS will need to review all the evidence which has come out of the Inquiry and may also need to interview others. So I doubt there will be prosecutions this year. Next year maybe. If they didn't happen until 2026 I would not be surprised.

    Also remember that the burden of proof for conspiracy charges is high.

    Are there any clawback provisions in the bonuses awarded to PO managers? There ought to be.

    I must say that the word "bonus" now sets my teeth on edge in the same way as the phrase "lessons learned". Corporate looting would be more accurate.
    The PO Scandal has finally caught the zeitgeist, despite many of us knowing about it for years. In my case it was from Private Eye that I found the story a decade or so ago.

    The ITV drama made a human story out of what is superficially boring: computers, accounting and sub-post offices. It is a very emblematic story of how Britain (and for that matter many other countries) has evolved: ordinary people doing ordinary jobs being screwed over by a system designed not for the common interest, but rather for the financial interests at the top and their political friends.

    It strikes a chord with that populist feeling, and feeds the suspicion that any "reform" that we are going to see in the way the country is run will screw over the common folk again in favour of those lobbying interests.

    That's why it's reasonated.

    It speaks to every part of the political spectrum and strikes at that fundamental decent British sense of fair play.
    The husband of one of the jailed postmasters (mistresses?) was on R4 this morning recounting how he was beaten up three times after a 'pregnant thief jailed' headline in the local paper.
    I feel it's very much swings and roundabouts on the fundamental decent British sense of fair play front.
    Also rather lacking on PB of late. Notably a rather partisan rush to blame Mr Davey and SKS for everything right down to the exact shade of beige used for the wpbs (PO staff for the use of).
    That's nothing to the shite being poured over Vennells. There are others who need to share the blame.
    Venal Vennells :lol:
  • StuartinromfordStuartinromford Posts: 17,069

    TimS said:

    Foxy said:

    TimS said:

    Postmistress confirms she is to stand against Davey at the GE

    https://twitter.com/YvonneNewMalden/status/1745975752531534126?t=Zu_eZZPNQwI4ac_U7dEybg&s=19

    I would be delighted if Alan Bates stood in our constituency as with boundary changes he now does and I would vote for him without a second thought

    Tory win in K&S incoming.
    Nah, Davey will win.
    I wouldn’t be too sure. Particularly if she’s the only such candidate in the country. She’ll become a lightning rod for protest votes. Davey lost the seat in 2015 remember.
    Worth noting that she's already a Kingston councillor. Whether that helps or hinders her, I'm not sure.
    It suggests she’s serious, but it also suggests this isn’t just about the Post Office scandal. She’ll have a local record of things she’s supported or opposed. Reporting suggests she’s a small-c conservative in terms of council affairs.

    How much salience will the Post Office scandal have in November or whenever the election is? She’d do better having a go at the London Assembly perhaps.
    Non-party candidates have broken through (Martin Bell benefited from LibDem and Lab standing down, what was the story with the doctor in Wyre Forest?), but not many.

    Easier to see her getting Davey out than winning herself.
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 27,575

    DavidL said:

    As practical matter, probably not many Republics gonna be waiting in line OUTSIDE on Monday night; Iowans are better organized than that; they generally find the counting more problematic than the weather.

    And folks may well start turning up, an being checked in, before 7pm. With actual voting not until then.

    Essentially the caucuses are meetings. A few people will get up and make speeches, others will comment, most will be there just to fill out a ballot and drop it in the box.

    IF turnout at a locality is heavy, could take a while to get past the ID checkers. But again these lines and waiting should be indoors.

    Typically caucus meetings are held at schools and churches, normal election polling places. Or in peoples homes.

    Also pretty common in some places to hold caucuses for several precincts at same location, say a high school with plenty of classrooms for meetings, or in an auditorium or school gym.

    Reckon the REAL turnout issue, will be folks not wanting to drive too far from home that night. May be somewhat more of a factor in rural precincts, where the trip to & from caucus may be longer.

    AP are saying it is going to be -45. I presume that is Fahrenheit but it doesn't make much difference at that sort of number. That is seriously cold. Not a night for being out driving. This is madness.
    When you get down to that point you are close to the parity value

    Because of the way the conversion is calculated, -40 F is -40 C. It is the crossover point. Below -40, Fahrenheit values are lower than centigrade for any given temperature.
    Ah but does lower mean higher or lower when it comes to negative numbers?
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 70,512
    Carnyx said:

    Carnyx said:

    Foxy said:

    Cyclefree said:

    Chris said:

    tlg86 said:

    Surely anyone who is prosecuted for the post office scandal will argue it will be impossible for them to get a fair trial. Whether that washes, I don’t know, but they’re bound to try it.

    Why would they be able to argue that, any more than - for example - someone who is charged with committing a murder that has excited widespread outrage?
    They can't. This is always brought up every time there is a crime which is in the news and it never happens. First, there will be no prosecutions until the Inquiry is done. Then the police and CPS will need to review all the evidence which has come out of the Inquiry and may also need to interview others. So I doubt there will be prosecutions this year. Next year maybe. If they didn't happen until 2026 I would not be surprised.

    Also remember that the burden of proof for conspiracy charges is high.

    Are there any clawback provisions in the bonuses awarded to PO managers? There ought to be.

    I must say that the word "bonus" now sets my teeth on edge in the same way as the phrase "lessons learned". Corporate looting would be more accurate.
    The PO Scandal has finally caught the zeitgeist, despite many of us knowing about it for years. In my case it was from Private Eye that I found the story a decade or so ago.

    The ITV drama made a human story out of what is superficially boring: computers, accounting and sub-post offices. It is a very emblematic story of how Britain (and for that matter many other countries) has evolved: ordinary people doing ordinary jobs being screwed over by a system designed not for the common interest, but rather for the financial interests at the top and their political friends.

    It strikes a chord with that populist feeling, and feeds the suspicion that any "reform" that we are going to see in the way the country is run will screw over the common folk again in favour of those lobbying interests.

    That's why it's reasonated.

    It speaks to every part of the political spectrum and strikes at that fundamental decent British sense of fair play.
    The husband of one of the jailed postmasters (mistresses?) was on R4 this morning recounting how he was beaten up three times after a 'pregnant thief jailed' headline in the local paper.
    I feel it's very much swings and roundabouts on the fundamental decent British sense of fair play front.
    Also rather lacking on PB of late. Notably a rather partisan rush to blame Mr Davey and SKS for everything right down to the exact shade of beige used for the wpbs (PO staff for the use of).
    That's nothing to the shite being poured over Vennells. There are others who need to share the blame.
    They need one of those things the farmer on the field behind here uses to spread the contents of the midden evenly and efficiently.
    The enquiry, slow as it is bound to be, seems to be doing a pretty good job of working its way along the chain of causation. The media, of course, is a different matter, but I’m fairly sure Vennells is not going to be a lone scapegoat.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 70,512
    Lai seems to have won in Taiwan.
    No majority in the legislature, though, with the newish third party taking votes.

    China pissed.
  • MoonRabbitMoonRabbit Posts: 13,353

    TimS said:

    Foxy said:

    TimS said:

    Postmistress confirms she is to stand against Davey at the GE

    https://twitter.com/YvonneNewMalden/status/1745975752531534126?t=Zu_eZZPNQwI4ac_U7dEybg&s=19

    I would be delighted if Alan Bates stood in our constituency as with boundary changes he now does and I would vote for him without a second thought

    Tory win in K&S incoming.
    Nah, Davey will win.
    I wouldn’t be too sure. Particularly if she’s the only such candidate in the country. She’ll become a lightning rod for protest votes. Davey lost the seat in 2015 remember.
    Worth noting that she's already a Kingston councillor. Whether that helps or hinders her, I'm not sure.
    It suggests she’s serious, but it also suggests this isn’t just about the Post Office scandal. She’ll have a local record of things she’s supported or opposed. Reporting suggests she’s a small-c conservative in terms of council affairs.

    How much salience will the Post Office scandal have in November or whenever the election is? She’d do better having a go at the London Assembly perhaps.
    Non-party candidates have broken through (Martin Bell benefited from LibDem and Lab standing down, what was the story with the doctor in Wyre Forest?), but not many.

    Easier to see her getting Davey out than winning herself.
    I’m not sure. For example all the aggrieved covid families look at this and think, what a great idea! What a great way to keep our grievance against Tories over Covid in the news throughout the election campaign by standing against senior Tories!
    It would more likely hurt Libdem and Labours chances of defeating those senior Tories in electoral trouble, by siphoning votes from their challenge.
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 42,205
    Nigelb said:

    Lai seems to have won in Taiwan.
    No majority in the legislature, though, with the newish third party taking votes.

    China pissed.

    Of course China's pi**ed. Taiwan's shown China how to do democracy. I wonder why dictator-for-life Xi doesn't like that?
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 48,476

    TimS said:

    Foxy said:

    TimS said:

    Postmistress confirms she is to stand against Davey at the GE

    https://twitter.com/YvonneNewMalden/status/1745975752531534126?t=Zu_eZZPNQwI4ac_U7dEybg&s=19

    I would be delighted if Alan Bates stood in our constituency as with boundary changes he now does and I would vote for him without a second thought

    Tory win in K&S incoming.
    Nah, Davey will win.
    I wouldn’t be too sure. Particularly if she’s the only such candidate in the country. She’ll become a lightning rod for protest votes. Davey lost the seat in 2015 remember.
    Worth noting that she's already a Kingston councillor. Whether that helps or hinders her, I'm not sure.
    It suggests she’s serious, but it also suggests this isn’t just about the Post Office scandal. She’ll have a local record of things she’s supported or opposed. Reporting suggests she’s a small-c conservative in terms of council affairs.

    How much salience will the Post Office scandal have in November or whenever the election is? She’d do better having a go at the London Assembly perhaps.
    Non-party candidates have broken through (Martin Bell benefited from LibDem and Lab standing down, what was the story with the doctor in Wyre Forest?), but not many.

    Easier to see her getting Davey out than winning herself.
    Very hard to see a swing to the Tories anywhere, but particularly in West London.

    She may well dent his majority but Davey is safe as an MP, if not as leader.
  • StuartinromfordStuartinromford Posts: 17,069
    Foxy said:

    TimS said:

    Foxy said:

    TimS said:

    Postmistress confirms she is to stand against Davey at the GE

    https://twitter.com/YvonneNewMalden/status/1745975752531534126?t=Zu_eZZPNQwI4ac_U7dEybg&s=19

    I would be delighted if Alan Bates stood in our constituency as with boundary changes he now does and I would vote for him without a second thought

    Tory win in K&S incoming.
    Nah, Davey will win.
    I wouldn’t be too sure. Particularly if she’s the only such candidate in the country. She’ll become a lightning rod for protest votes. Davey lost the seat in 2015 remember.
    Worth noting that she's already a Kingston councillor. Whether that helps or hinders her, I'm not sure.
    It suggests she’s serious, but it also suggests this isn’t just about the Post Office scandal. She’ll have a local record of things she’s supported or opposed. Reporting suggests she’s a small-c conservative in terms of council affairs.

    How much salience will the Post Office scandal have in November or whenever the election is? She’d do better having a go at the London Assembly perhaps.
    Non-party candidates have broken through (Martin Bell benefited from LibDem and Lab standing down, what was the story with the doctor in Wyre Forest?), but not many.

    Easier to see her getting Davey out than winning herself.
    Very hard to see a swing to the Tories anywhere, but particularly in West London.

    She may well dent his majority but Davey is safe as an MP, if not as leader.
    10, 000 majority last time (against Gyles Brandreth's daughter), so that's a lot of votes for Davey to lose before he's undertaken by the Conservatives.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 54,668
    So here’s what just happened in Raffles PP

    I was FREAKING OUT about the dark history of this hotel - Jon swain, Roland neveu, dith pran, the Khmer Rouge, soldiers dying in the lobby, executions in the garden - and I was told the Elephant Bar “has some interesting photos”

    As I was due for my “gin class” at the same bar I came down to look at the photos first then I noticed an elderly American standing next to me also looking at the photos

    Turns out he was STAYING in the hotel in the week it was taken over by the Khmer Rouge. He is a famous philanthropist and he was in Cambodia to organise the “rice lift” which saved many Cambodian kids

    He was personally witness to all the events described. He knew dith pran, Jon swain, Sidney Sheldon and all the people in The Killing Fields and he could point to the room where he slept until that fateful week



    How weird is that, the same day I freak out about the history?
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 70,512

    Nigelb said:

    Lai seems to have won in Taiwan.
    No majority in the legislature, though, with the newish third party taking votes.

    China pissed.

    Of course China's pi**ed. Taiwan's shown China how to do democracy. I wonder why dictator-for-life Xi doesn't like that?
    I’m delighted the DPP has won an unprecedented (though it’s not been a democracy long enough for much precedent) third term; it’s a progressive party, which also has proved competent in government.

    There’s a risk of Xi doing something stupid in reaction, though.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 51,578
    edited January 13
    Nigelb said:

    Nigelb said:

    Lai seems to have won in Taiwan.
    No majority in the legislature, though, with the newish third party taking votes.

    China pissed.

    Of course China's pi**ed. Taiwan's shown China how to do democracy. I wonder why dictator-for-life Xi doesn't like that?
    I’m delighted the DPP has won an unprecedented (though it’s not been a democracy long enough for much precedent) third term; it’s a progressive party, which also has proved competent in government.

    There’s a risk of Xi doing something stupid in reaction, though.
    China at risk of doing the Wong thing?
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 49,586
    pm215 said:

    Just imagine if you had locked yourself into a 25 year fixed mortgage in late 2006.

    Rachel Reeves has pledged that Labour will oversee a “revolution” in home ownership by opening the door to 25-year fixed-rate mortgages for millions of people.

    In an interview with The Times before a trip to the World Economic Forum in Davos, the shadow chancellor said that longer fixed-rate deals would enable people to buy houses with smaller deposits and with lower monthly repayments.

    She has asked a Labour review of financial services, which is being run by a group of City grandees, to work with the mortgage industry to find ways to remove regulatory barriers and help trigger a broader cultural shift.


    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/rachel-reeves-interview-fixed-mortgage-house-uk-zqtvbkgxn

    You can’t destroy risk in finance - just move it about.
    True, but as a society I think we should have preferences about where the risk ends up. In particular I think it's better if we design systems and regulations so that significant risks and especially hard to predict large downside risks largely land on big organisations who have the resources to make a better job of assessing them and to weather the consequences if they do come to pass, rather than on individuals. If individuals want to take on risks, that's fine, but we shouldn't set financial systems up so they are obliged to.

    What I mean is that having everyone on lifetime-of-the-mortgage portable fixed rates sounds like a no lose plan.

    Except that this will mean someone holding a fuckton of 25 year swaps.

    If not carefully thought out, that’s your next banking crisis.
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 42,639
    edited January 13
    Leon said:

    So here’s what just happened in Raffles PP

    I was FREAKING OUT about the dark history of this hotel - Jon swain, Roland neveu, dith pran, the Khmer Rouge, soldiers dying in the lobby, executions in the garden - and I was told the Elephant Bar “has some interesting photos”

    As I was due for my “gin class” at the same bar I came down to look at the photos first then I noticed an elderly American standing next to me also looking at the photos

    Turns out he was STAYING in the hotel in the week it was taken over by the Khmer Rouge. He is a famous philanthropist and he was in Cambodia to organise the “rice lift” which saved many Cambodian kids

    He was personally witness to all the events described. He knew dith pran, Jon swain, Sidney Sheldon and all the people in The Killing Fields and he could point to the room where he slept until that fateful week



    How weird is that, the same day I freak out about the history?

    You'd be freaking about its history *any* day. So just reduce the last bit to, 'the same day I visit the hotel'. But a very notable coincidence anyway.
  • OnlyLivingBoyOnlyLivingBoy Posts: 15,687
    I heard from a Republican strategist who hails from the Midwest who said that heavy snow falls that block roads would hit turnout but simply cold weather wouldn't. He said that Iowans have no problem with the cold, the only people who would be affected would be East Coast journalists.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 70,512

    Nigelb said:

    Lai seems to have won in Taiwan.
    No majority in the legislature, though, with the newish third party taking votes.

    China pissed.

    Of course China's pi**ed. Taiwan's shown China how to do democracy. I wonder why dictator-for-life Xi doesn't like that?
    Lai is an impressive character.

    Raised by a single mother after his miner father died from carbon monoxide poisoning; has a masters degree in public health, and is a national expert of spinal injuries; hugely popular two term mayor of Tainan before entering national politics, and nominated ‘best legislator’ four times in a row while sitting in parliament.
    Not your average party hack.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 51,309
    A domestic flight of Japan's All Nippon Airways returned to its departure airport after a crack was found on the cockpit window of a Boeing 737-800 aircraft

    https://x.com/rtenews/status/1746159653010939925
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 70,512
    .
    Carnyx said:

    Leon said:

    So here’s what just happened in Raffles PP

    I was FREAKING OUT about the dark history of this hotel - Jon swain, Roland neveu, dith pran, the Khmer Rouge, soldiers dying in the lobby, executions in the garden - and I was told the Elephant Bar “has some interesting photos”

    As I was due for my “gin class” at the same bar I came down to look at the photos first then I noticed an elderly American standing next to me also looking at the photos

    Turns out he was STAYING in the hotel in the week it was taken over by the Khmer Rouge. He is a famous philanthropist and he was in Cambodia to organise the “rice lift” which saved many Cambodian kids

    He was personally witness to all the events described. He knew dith pran, Jon swain, Sidney Sheldon and all the people in The Killing Fields and he could point to the room where he slept until that fateful week



    How weird is that, the same day I freak out about the history?

    You'd be freaking about its history *any* day. So just reduce the last bit to, 'the same day I visit the hotel'. But a very notable coincidence anyway.
    Don’t discourage him; I’d like to hear more of the story, if there is more.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 54,668
    edited January 13
    Leon said:

    So here’s what just happened in Raffles PP

    I was FREAKING OUT about the dark history of this hotel - Jon swain, Roland neveu, dith pran, the Khmer Rouge, soldiers dying in the lobby, executions in the garden - and I was told the Elephant Bar “has some interesting photos”

    As I was due for my “gin class” at the same bar I came down to look at the photos first then I noticed an elderly American standing next to me also looking at the photos

    Turns out he was STAYING in the hotel in the week it was taken over by the Khmer Rouge. He is a famous philanthropist and he was in Cambodia to organise the “rice lift” which saved many Cambodian kids

    He was personally witness to all the events described. He knew dith pran, Jon swain, Sidney Sheldon and all the people in The Killing Fields and he could point to the room where he slept until that fateful week



    How weird is that, the same day I freak out about the history?

    This photo apparently shows one of the hotel staff of Le Royal being ordered out by the Khmer Rouge on April 17, 1975. They were all - it is believed - quickly executed around the corner. Hence the emotions
    which made Jon Swain cry 35 years later

    But I think that photo shows Sydney Schanberg - famous NYT hack - looking on in horror? If so that is quite iconic (on top of everything else)
  • TimSTimS Posts: 12,720

    A domestic flight of Japan's All Nippon Airways returned to its departure airport after a crack was found on the cockpit window of a Boeing 737-800 aircraft

    https://x.com/rtenews/status/1746159653010939925

    Boeing’s had a poor few years.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 59,988
    kle4 said:

    Heh


    The UK doesn't have the metric system.
    Sometimes we do. We don't want to rush in too quickly.
    What's the assumption we will ever rush in?

    Both shipping and aviation use forms of imperial measures as the baseline - knots, feet and nautical miles - and that's absolutely established.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 59,988
    kinabalu said:

    algarkirk said:

    isam said:

    Peter Oborne reckons Sir Keir is fibbing about Brexit at the moment, and will slowly take us back into the EU if he becomes PM. Probably right, he u-turns on every other pledge and we know what he really thinks on this one

    https://x.com/timesradio/status/1746109837195563119?s=46&t=CW4pL-mMpTqsJXCdjW0Z6Q

    This is a massive over simplification. Firstly Oborne knows perfectly well the routes by which Starmer can lose the election, and opening up the EU question is one of the best.

    Secondly he knows that there is not a 'slowly' way back into EU membership, but only a way which engages us in a deeply acrimonious debate in which the outcome is unknown in political and personal terms, and which will involve well publicised key decisions which are absolutely binary - parliamentary decisions, referendum, making application, process, acceptance, terms and conditions, joining.

    The idea of opening all that up from cold in an election campaign is unthinkable. He might in the manifesto say 'we shall continue to review our relationship with the EU and seek to act in ways which strengthen the UK's trading and political position' but that's about all it is reasonable to expect. This election will be dirty enough already.
    Yes he's about locking in the election win not rolling the dice to chase a bigger win at the risk of no win at all.

    Labour will ...

    Cancel Brexit
    Let anybody into the country
    Borrow and spend like a drunken sailor
    Be soft on crime
    Not respect the Union Jack
    Persecute drivers
    Let men pretend to be women

    That off the top of my head is a list of the main things being closed down. By closed down I mean give the Cons and their media patsies and enablers no ammo whatsoever to give the charge any traction with anybody paying attention.
    Although, you would welcome every one of those policies.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 59,988
    Nigelb said:

    Lai seems to have won in Taiwan.
    No majority in the legislature, though, with the newish third party taking votes.

    China pissed.

    Excellent.

    Never give in to bullies.
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 29,341

    kinabalu said:

    isam said:

    Peter Oborne reckons Sir Keir is fibbing about Brexit at the moment, and will slowly take us back into the EU if he becomes PM. Probably right, he u-turns on every other pledge and we know what he really thinks on this one

    https://x.com/timesradio/status/1746109837195563119?s=46&t=CW4pL-mMpTqsJXCdjW0Z6Q

    Let's hope so!
    Why? Do you think SKS has a mandate for whatever he likes provided he wins in November?

    Everything has a political consequence. And those are far greater if you don't have a mandate, and it does eventually catch-up with you.
    Relative to the current Tory mandate on their third leader, who lost his own party leadership contest, and having flip flopped on numerous policies, Starmers mandate, if he gets a clear win, must be pretty broad.
    He's going to have a thumping great "not the tories" mandate.
    Yes, I'd say Not the Tories is the biggest chunk of the electorate at about 25%.

    20% Labour, 15% Tories, 10% Not Labour, 30% The rest
    That's all very well, but those aren't the choices.
  • TresTres Posts: 2,686
    TimS said:

    Postmistress confirms she is to stand against Davey at the GE

    https://twitter.com/YvonneNewMalden/status/1745975752531534126?t=Zu_eZZPNQwI4ac_U7dEybg&s=19

    I would be delighted if Alan Bates stood in our constituency as with boundary changes he now does and I would vote for him without a second thought

    Tory win in K&S incoming.
    Tories only won in 2015 with an anti-Brexit candidate.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 70,512
    From the PO can of worms.

    Post office owner says Horizon system was used to frame him for wife’s murder
    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2024/jan/13/post-office-owner-says-horizon-system-was-used-to-frame-him-for-wifes-murder

    Chuck in some police incompetence, on top of the unreliable Horizon evidence.
    … North Yorkshire police officers lost key evidence, including a clump of hair found on the pillow in the couple’s bedroom. The hair, which was a different colour to both Diana’s and Robin’s, was never taken for forensic analysis and was lost.
    ..The murder weapon, a metal bar, was only found several days after the murder, on top of a high wall nearby. The jury heard it was contaminated by the police officer who handled it, and may have sneezed on it...


    Hard to say without further detail if the conviction is so unsafe it should be quashed, but it’s likely there’ll be more than a handful of these tangential cases.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 95,837
    edited January 13

    kle4 said:

    Cyclefree said:

    I'm a great believer in the positive and negative power of corporate culture. Any organisation - especially large and long-established ones - have a corporate culture within them. These are often set by the founder(s), and can take years to change as long-serving staff are understandably resistant to change.

    Corporate cultures can be positive for the organisation, or can be negative. Because of the resistance to change, negative cultures (or aspects of culture) can take years to turn around.

    The Post Office, at top level, not postmasters, appears to have a rotten corporate culture. I fear it's not just the top bods who need to change, but many people within the organisation.

    Yup: culture beats strategy hands down.

    You start with change at the top and you keep going until you hit the layer you need, the one that is worthwhile and then you make them feel - through reward and praise - that they are doing the right thing by doing the right thing. It takes time and hard work and persistence. It can be done. But only if you first realise it needs to be done. The PO has not even got to that point yet.
    The PO hasn’t got to the “yes, we fucked up” point. Yet.
    At this point they might as well never do so, it's far far too late to get any credit or benefit from accepting responsibility. Just commit to being the villains of the piece.
    In order to stop fucking up, the first step is to admit you are fucking up.
    I don't think there's any point in any of the people still involved in the running of the post office being involved longer term, so they're acknowledging they are fcking up is probably immaterial. They clearly don't believe it by now, so any conversion to accepting it would be insincere and not help them stop fcking up.
  • malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 43,209
    kinabalu said:

    Fishing said:

    ydoethur said:

    Heh


    An interesting parallel, which fails because we don't really have a metric system in the U.K.

    We're inching towards it by there's still a fair way to go.
    Ireland and Canada also have various wonderful anomalies, e.g. this sign I once saw in Ireland: "Speed Limit 60 km/h next 3 miles".

    Also here, milk is sold in 454 Ml cartons, because we don't want to admit we still think in pints, while juice or squash is sold in litres.

    I give my height and weight in Imperial, and order pints of beer but think of petrol in £/l.

    It's all bizarre and rather wonderful. You wouldn't design it how it's turned out, but it seems to work. Like the Monarchy.
    I use metric for my weight and Imperial for my height! And in the pub I buy beer by the pint and wine by the 250ml!
    You drink 250 ml glasses of wine? That's a big measure. Just 3 of those is a bottle.
    Wimp
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 32,143

    isam said:

    Peter Oborne reckons Sir Keir is fibbing about Brexit at the moment, and will slowly take us back into the EU if he becomes PM. Probably right, he u-turns on every other pledge and we know what he really thinks on this one

    https://x.com/timesradio/status/1746109837195563119?s=46&t=CW4pL-mMpTqsJXCdjW0Z6Q

    Let's hope so!
    Being dishonest with the electorate is a good thing in your opinion?
  • kjhkjh Posts: 11,695

    Dura_Ace said:

    isam said:

    Peter Oborne reckons Sir Keir is fibbing about Brexit at the moment, and will slowly take us back into the EU if he becomes PM. Probably right, he u-turns on every other pledge and we know what he really thinks on this one

    https://x.com/timesradio/status/1746109837195563119?s=46&t=CW4pL-mMpTqsJXCdjW0Z6Q

    That would be astute and probably quite popular politics from SKS.

    He can't afford to give the tories Brexit as a wedge issue before the election as there is nothing they would like better in the nuggets of anthracite that pass for their hearts than to re-litigate the 2019 GBD election.

    Rejoin is just common sense and inevitable anyway. Just need more gammons to be killed by Carling/Bennie Hedgehogs.
    You have a lucid and engaging writing style. Have you thought about writing travelogs from the far east?

    Oth I deplore personalised number plates but I finally saw a cool one. Somewhat negated by what it’s attached to but gather ye rosebuds while ye may


    My wife has a plate that with a closed 4 as an A spells her name correctly.

    I found it cheaper to change my name by deed poll to CN06WDA.
    How do you pronounce that?
  • malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 43,209
    Nigelb said:

    Leon said:

    kinabalu said:

    boulay said:

    Leon said:

    This is almost but not quite as spooky as my night at the Destrehan Hotel in Louisiana. Which was unquestionably the closest I have come to a paranormal experience of “haunting”

    A photo I took during my night at the Destrehan. Even now - thinking about it - makes me shudder



    That ghost baby is clearly AI, you can tell by the hands.
    Which means he's banned. We have a "no AI pics" rule.
    I thought the rule only applied to one poster, who is not boulay.
    But Leon posted it. It may not be AI though, it could be photoshopped or some projection trick.

    One thing I am certain it isn't is a photo of a ghost baby.
    It’s not AI it’s a doll

    The “hotel” had a room full of them. They are some of the scariest photos I’ve ever taken. Which seems right as it was one of the scariest places - psychodramatically - that I’ve ever slept



    Going out on a limb here, but I think you might be a bit suggestible.
    Or had too much singing ginger
  • malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 43,209

    Oth I deplore personalised number plates but I finally saw a cool one. Somewhat negated by what it’s attached to but gather ye rosebuds while ye may


    TUD, handy for finding your car though.
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