Very interesting, thanks JJ - I've read a few references to this but no clear overview up to now. Threatening reimposition of sanctions seems a reasonable course of action for Biden.
In the interests of Peace, I demand the the Guyanians should surrender immediately.
Their existence is neo-colonialist imperialism anyway. After they have been driven from the land by the vastly superior Venezuelan forces, there is no prospect of their return. So the future facts on the ground demand their immediate capitulation.
In the interests of Peace, I demand the the Guyanians should surrender immediately.
Their existence is neo-colonialist imperialism anyway. After they have been driven from the land by the vastly superior Venezuelan forces, there is no prospect of their return. So the future facts on the ground demand their immediate capitulation.
You miss the point that facts on the ground have already changed and vast numbers of Venezuelans have fled into Guyana, so that in any future Russian-style referendum, they might well vote for Venezuela to annexe their new homeland.
Perhaps any sabre rattling in Venezuela probably tells us far more about contemporary Venezuela than it does Guyana?
I note that Wiki seems to think the Guyana GDP is $20k/head not $10k/head. That is the 4th higherst in South America.
IIRC Guyana was the pioneer place where a decade ago a significant international endowment fund was setup to help preserve he rainforest. Have you run into any indication of how well that has worked, and how rainforest preservation might work with new oil wealth?
In the interests of Peace, I demand the the Guyanians should surrender immediately.
Their existence is neo-colonialist imperialism anyway. After they have been driven from the land by the vastly superior Venezuelan forces, there is no prospect of their return. So the future facts on the ground demand their immediate capitulation.
There actually FIVE different Guyanas (or Guianas if you prefer).
Guyana (former British Guiana) Suriname (former Dutch Guiana) French Guiana (still French, natch) Portuguese Guiana (roughly corresponding to the Amapa State of Brazil) and Spanish Guiana (covering the Amazonas, Bolivar, and Delta Amacuro provinces of Venezuela). There's even a Cuidad Guayana in the region.
I cut this article down from some (over copious notes) I had. If I may, may I just add a few other points here:
Figures vary, but there are in the order of 200,000 to 300,000 Guyanans living in he USA; mainly in New York. This is a large proportion of the ~800,000 population of Guyana itself.
40% of Guyanans are of Indian heritage, as a consequence of the abolition of slavery and its British roots (*); 30% are of West African heritage, brought over as part of the slave trade.
*Never* confuse Guyana with French Guiana. It annoys lots of people. The latter is best known for launching loads of rockets for FranceEurope.
The oil finds are causing an explosion in Guyana's GDP. This obviously has advantages, but also some rather serious potential consequences. Will all that money be spent and distributed wisely? Will it destabilise its already slightly rocky politics? Will it be able to be exploited to Guyana's advantage, especially if oil demand reduces over the next few decades?
For a different perspective, Forbes published the following after I wrote this, stating that war is unlikely. Some of the points it makes vary with what other sources (for instance that the 1966 Geneva Agreement voided the earlier agreement - that is very much Venezuela's position, which many other countries disagree with. Still, it is worth a read: https://www.forbes.com/sites/eliasferrerbreda/2023/11/30/essequibo-dispute-no-plan-for-war-in-guyana/?sh=2c02005f15a4
(*) Not that I believe that the Indians who went to Guyana had a massively better life than the Africans had before. Life was hard, especially as indentured people.
In the interests of Peace, I demand the the Guyanians should surrender immediately.
Their existence is neo-colonialist imperialism anyway. After they have been driven from the land by the vastly superior Venezuelan forces, there is no prospect of their return. So the future facts on the ground demand their immediate capitulation.
You miss the point that facts on the ground have already changed and vast numbers of Venezuelans have fled into Guyana, so that in any future Russian-style referendum, they might well vote for Venezuela to annexe their new homeland.
If they are fleeing Venezuelan oppression and brutality voting to rejoin Venezuela would seem a tad unlikely.
As President & Co-founder of the Start The War Coalition we should support Guyana both economically and militarily.
It is the right thing to do, also as a member of the Commonwealth it is what the late Queen would have wanted.
No Guyana became a republic and dumped the Queen in 1970, their defence is their problem now not ours
Interesting to see your view that THEY DON'T COUNT because republicans.
So much for soft "British" power.
They don't count in terms of British taxpayers funding their defence no.
If they can't defend themselves they obviously need the return of the British Crown.
We could build a massive retirement complex there to solve our ageing population problem.
They play cricket there too.
Well, there you are.
Wasn't HYUFD going on about the importance of links with India? They play cricket but dumped the King a lot longer ago than Guyana.
I wouldn't go to war to defend the Republic of India either unless with a UN mandate, we don't even have a trade deal with India at present.
As I said outside British Overseas Territories or Commonwealth realms we don't go to war to defend any other nation without a UN or NATO mandate or under a US led campaign
Perhaps any sabre rattling in Venezuela probably tells us far more about contemporary Venezuela than it does Guyana?
I note that Wiki seems to think the Guyana GDP is $20k/head not $10k/head. That is the 4th higherst in South America.
IIRC Guyana was the pioneer place where a decade ago a significant international endowment fund was setup to help preserve he rainforest. Have you run into any indication of how well that has worked, and how rainforest preservation might work with new oil wealth?
Yep; the 'problem' is that their GDP is rocketing up, mainly due to the oil (and other natural resources such as gold and diamonds). I decided a lower, slightly older figure was more representative to show the usual situation. The chart below shows the massive increase per capita over the last few years. Needless to say, it is doubtful that the entire population is seeing the benefits equally...
It is screamingly obvious there will be a full on extremist government jn the west within a decade or so
You could argue Trump was fairly close. Closer than Meloni. Orban is close
And it might not be extreme right - could be left. Certainly don’t rule it out. Everything is pushing politics towards the edges - tho my hunch is far right is much more likely because so much of the pressure is from migration and from the woke left pushing red buttons
As President & Co-founder of the Start The War Coalition we should support Guyana both economically and militarily.
It is the right thing to do, also as a member of the Commonwealth it is what the late Queen would have wanted.
No Guyana became a republic and dumped the Queen in 1970, their defence is their problem now not ours
Interesting to see your view that THEY DON'T COUNT because republicans.
So much for soft "British" power.
They don't count in terms of British taxpayers funding their defence no.
If they can't defend themselves they obviously need the return of the British Crown.
We could build a massive retirement complex there to solve our ageing population problem.
They play cricket there too.
Well, there you are.
Wasn't HYUFD going on about the importance of links with India? They play cricket but dumped the King a lot longer ago than Guyana.
I wouldn't go to war to defend the Republic of India either, we don't even have a trade deal with India at present.
As I said outside British Overseas Territories or Commonwealth realms we don't go to war to defend any other nation without a UN or NATO mandate or under a US led campaign
After Blair's escapade in Iraq we would be better served keeping out of any conflict that doesn't directly impact us or is existential (Ukraine does/is).
We need to keep our powder dry to recover the Malvinas.
Incidentally, @JosiasJessop - that is an exemplary threader
Lucid, cogent, direct, illuminating and thought-provoking. You give the background, you explain the issues, you offer context, you say why it matters. Bingo
Better than we will get from several major papers, probably
As President & Co-founder of the Start The War Coalition we should support Guyana both economically and militarily.
It is the right thing to do, also as a member of the Commonwealth it is what the late Queen would have wanted.
No Guyana became a republic and dumped the Queen in 1970, their defence is their problem now not ours
Interesting to see your view that THEY DON'T COUNT because republicans.
So much for soft "British" power.
They don't count in terms of British taxpayers funding their defence no.
If they can't defend themselves they obviously need the return of the British Crown.
We could build a massive retirement complex there to solve our ageing population problem.
They play cricket there too.
Well, there you are.
Wasn't HYUFD going on about the importance of links with India? They play cricket but dumped the King a lot longer ago than Guyana.
I wouldn't go to war to defend the Republic of India either, we don't even have a trade deal with India at present.
As I said outside British Overseas Territories or Commonwealth realms we don't go to war to defend any other nation without a UN or NATO mandate or under a US led campaign
After Blair's escapade in Iraq we would be better served keeping out of any conflict that doesn't directly impact us or is existential (Ukraine does/is).
We need to keep our powder dry to recover the Malvinas.
Resisting the annexation of territory would be more first Gulf War then second Gulf War. Hopefully, this is just sabre-rattling by Venezuela and it won't go anywhere.
Irish Times journalist Kitty Holland says the Irish media "were right" to not publish the full comments of Ryan Casey, boyfriend of murdered 23-year-old Ashling Murphy, claiming that his remarks were "incitement to hatred" and that it wouldn't be "helpful" to share them.
As President & Co-founder of the Start The War Coalition we should support Guyana both economically and militarily.
It is the right thing to do, also as a member of the Commonwealth it is what the late Queen would have wanted.
No Guyana became a republic and dumped the Queen in 1970, their defence is their problem now not ours
Interesting to see your view that THEY DON'T COUNT because republicans.
So much for soft "British" power.
They don't count in terms of British taxpayers funding their defence no.
If they can't defend themselves they obviously need the return of the British Crown.
We could build a massive retirement complex there to solve our ageing population problem.
They play cricket there too.
Well, there you are.
Wasn't HYUFD going on about the importance of links with India? They play cricket but dumped the King a lot longer ago than Guyana.
I wouldn't go to war to defend the Republic of India either, we don't even have a trade deal with India at present.
As I said outside British Overseas Territories or Commonwealth realms we don't go to war to defend any other nation without a UN or NATO mandate or under a US led campaign
After Blair's escapade in Iraq we would be better served keeping out of any conflict that doesn't directly impact us or is existential (Ukraine does/is).
We need to keep our powder dry to recover the Malvinas.
Milei at least has made clear he has no interest in armed conflict there
As President & Co-founder of the Start The War Coalition we should support Guyana both economically and militarily.
It is the right thing to do, also as a member of the Commonwealth it is what the late Queen would have wanted.
No Guyana became a republic and dumped the Queen in 1970, their defence is their problem now not ours
Interesting to see your view that THEY DON'T COUNT because republicans.
So much for soft "British" power.
They don't count in terms of British taxpayers funding their defence no.
If they can't defend themselves they obviously need the return of the British Crown.
We could build a massive retirement complex there to solve our ageing population problem.
They play cricket there too.
Well, there you are.
Wasn't HYUFD going on about the importance of links with India? They play cricket but dumped the King a lot longer ago than Guyana.
I wouldn't go to war to defend the Republic of India either, we don't even have a trade deal with India at present.
As I said outside British Overseas Territories or Commonwealth realms we don't go to war to defend any other nation without a UN or NATO mandate or under a US led campaign
After Blair's escapade in Iraq we would be better served keeping out of any conflict that doesn't directly impact us or is existential (Ukraine does/is).
We need to keep our powder dry to recover the Malvinas.
Milei at least has made clear he has no interest in armed conflict there
He may have an invisible Garden Bridge to sell you.
Irish Times journalist Kitty Holland says the Irish media "were right" to not publish the full comments of Ryan Casey, boyfriend of murdered 23-year-old Ashling Murphy, claiming that his remarks were "incitement to hatred" and that it wouldn't be "helpful" to share them.
It is screamingly obvious there will be a full on extremist government jn the west within a decade or so
You could argue Trump was fairly close. Closer than Meloni. Orban is close
And it might not be extreme right - could be left. Certainly don’t rule it out. Everything is pushing politics towards the edges - tho my hunch is far right is much more likely because so much of the pressure is from migration and from the woke left pushing red buttons
I hope not, Leon, but you have to say it's possible. Trump2 would fit the bill, as soon as next year, and that's a 2.6 shot to happen. Ok so I reckon not but plenty of far more seasoned pundits than me think otherwise.
As for far right v far left, yes the former has by far the easier path to power in the democratic west. It takes real skill and guts to fight racism and xenophobia. Pandering, fostering and exploiting it, less so.
Thanks for the interesting header josjess. Is there a potential British involvement here then? Hopefully not?
What is in our interests? Is Venezuela dismembering another sovereign country (to the point that country is essentially unviable) enough of a threat to our interests to cause us to spend money and treasure on stopping them? And how does our colonial history/guilt play into that?
I don't know. Much would depend on Venezuela's exact actions, and the reaction of neighbouring countries and the USA.
Interesting header, thanks. Only quibble is it's Guyanese not Guyanan. I once transmitted through Georgetown Airport en route from Bridgetown to Paramaribo. Lovely part of the world.
It is screamingly obvious there will be a full on extremist government jn the west within a decade or so
You could argue Trump was fairly close. Closer than Meloni. Orban is close
And it might not be extreme right - could be left. Certainly don’t rule it out. Everything is pushing politics towards the edges - tho my hunch is far right is much more likely because so much of the pressure is from migration and from the woke left pushing red buttons
A lot of it is down to impatience with other points of view. You see it everywhere. People can't bear to hear or read anything they don't agree with.
It is screamingly obvious there will be a full on extremist government jn the west within a decade or so
You could argue Trump was fairly close. Closer than Meloni. Orban is close
And it might not be extreme right - could be left. Certainly don’t rule it out. Everything is pushing politics towards the edges - tho my hunch is far right is much more likely because so much of the pressure is from migration and from the woke left pushing red buttons
A lot of it is down to impatience with other points of view. You see it everywhere. People can't bear to hear or read anything they don't agree with.
Not sure about that. For example, I patiently wade through PB comments most days.
It is screamingly obvious there will be a full on extremist government jn the west within a decade or so
You could argue Trump was fairly close. Closer than Meloni. Orban is close
And it might not be extreme right - could be left. Certainly don’t rule it out. Everything is pushing politics towards the edges - tho my hunch is far right is much more likely because so much of the pressure is from migration and from the woke left pushing red buttons
A lot of it is down to impatience with other points of view. You see it everywhere. People can't bear to hear or read anything they don't agree with.
Indeed. They typically then come here and start going on about "woke".
It is screamingly obvious there will be a full on extremist government jn the west within a decade or so
You could argue Trump was fairly close. Closer than Meloni. Orban is close
And it might not be extreme right - could be left. Certainly don’t rule it out. Everything is pushing politics towards the edges - tho my hunch is far right is much more likely because so much of the pressure is from migration and from the woke left pushing red buttons
A lot of it is down to impatience with other points of view. You see it everywhere. People can't bear to hear or read anything they don't agree with.
YOU ARE WRONG AND YOU ARE A BAD PERSON! I'M TELLING MUM ON YOU!
“You are trolling folks and trying to play political games so you can out-Trump Trump,” Newsom said. “How is that going for you, Ron? You are down 41 points in your own home state.”
The photo of this thatchers heaven brings to mind: an Anglo Saxon mead hall of the Northumbrian golden age, a perfect building for a June wedding reception in cloudless sunshine, and the ideal setting for long drinks with little umbrellas in them. Please, no wars. Maybe Leon could report on this little known place sometime?
"BBC is too politically correct, say working-class audiences Ofcom study has found viewers miss days when BBC was ‘fun’, with output becoming ‘dry’, ‘cringey’ and out of touch
By Anita Singh, ARTS AND ENTERTAINMENT EDITOR and India McTaggart, ENTERTAINMENT & ROYAL CORRESPONDENT'
"BBC is too politically correct, say working-class audiences Ofcom study has found viewers miss days when BBC was ‘fun’, with output becoming ‘dry’, ‘cringey’ and out of touch
By Anita Singh, ARTS AND ENTERTAINMENT EDITOR and India McTaggart, ENTERTAINMENT & ROYAL CORRESPONDENT'
"BBC is too politically correct, say working-class audiences Ofcom study has found viewers miss days when BBC was ‘fun’, with output becoming ‘dry’, ‘cringey’ and out of touch
By Anita Singh, ARTS AND ENTERTAINMENT EDITOR and India McTaggart, ENTERTAINMENT & ROYAL CORRESPONDENT'
It is screamingly obvious there will be a full on extremist government jn the west within a decade or so
You could argue Trump was fairly close. Closer than Meloni. Orban is close
And it might not be extreme right - could be left. Certainly don’t rule it out. Everything is pushing politics towards the edges - tho my hunch is far right is much more likely because so much of the pressure is from migration and from the woke left pushing red buttons
I hope not, Leon, but you have to say it's possible. Trump2 would fit the bill, as soon as next year, and that's a 2.6 shot to happen. Ok so I reckon not but plenty of far more seasoned pundits than me think otherwise.
As for far right v far left, yes the former has by far the easier path to power in the democratic west. It takes real skill and guts to fight racism and xenophobia. Pandering, fostering and exploiting it, less so.
Oddly, for all that Orban is very much Of The Right, my visit to Budapest earlier this year very much gave the impression of a globally-integrated, youthful and liberal place (and prosperous with it). Like Meloni, I suspect he's a bit more pragmatic behind closed doors.
Fascism is possible, but I don't think it will actually resolve any of the issues driving people to vote for it. We have seen, for example, the abject failure of our populist rightist government to seriously control immigration ('tens of thousands', lol), because they don't take the problem seriously from a policy/delivery POV, only from a 'talking tough' optics POV. It doesn't cost much to have vans with GO HOME on the side driving around; developing a robust and modern immigration system (with the right staffing, infrastructure and equipment) does.
Per the excellent John Gray video (on Joe Media) somebody posted here a few days back, a lot of the popular outlook in our declining liberal democracies is quite leftist/statist in many ways.
If it does happen, Trump seems by far the most likely. He's a deranged narcissist with a massive groundswell of support (and tbh I feel the segments of the US are more apt to trying out a bit of full-on fash than in Europe, especially if it comes Gilead-flavoured).
The photo of this thatchers heaven brings to mind: an Anglo Saxon mead hall of the Northumbrian golden age, a perfect building for a June wedding reception in cloudless sunshine, and the ideal setting for long drinks with little umbrellas in them. Please, no wars. Maybe Leon could report on this little known place sometime?
That's an interesting point: aren't many rural low-tech housing around the world essentially the same design? Round, wooden, mud or mud-brick walls, with strengthening material (e.g. hair), with a peaked wooden roof, with thatched covering.
There are obvious exceptions, e.g. Skara Brae on Orkney, but it seems a rather common example of convergent design evolution. The best shapes for strength, materials and purpose. I wonder if you could place an 1800-era tribesman from PNG in an Iron Age British roundhouse and have them feel at home?
"BBC is too politically correct, say working-class audiences Ofcom study has found viewers miss days when BBC was ‘fun’, with output becoming ‘dry’, ‘cringey’ and out of touch
By Anita Singh, ARTS AND ENTERTAINMENT EDITOR and India McTaggart, ENTERTAINMENT & ROYAL CORRESPONDENT'
They were attempting all up testing - for a tiny fraction of the Saturn 5 budget, they nearly got it working. A couple more launches and they would have had it working.
The big problems were a complete lack of ground testing of the individual engines - explosively opening valves! - plus poor computer control.
The program was already dead, politically, when they were launching. The Soviet leadership was already moving away from attempting to catch up with the Americans in space. Funding was already cut off - they were using up what they had to try and persuade the Big Bosses to turn the taps on again.
Two thoughts: First, Biden's recent lifting of sanctions -- in return for a promise of elections in Venzuela - is what most Americans would want him to do. (And would probably help him with people in the UK and elsewhere who get their views from the Guardian.)
"BBC is too politically correct, say working-class audiences Ofcom study has found viewers miss days when BBC was ‘fun’, with output becoming ‘dry’, ‘cringey’ and out of touch
By Anita Singh, ARTS AND ENTERTAINMENT EDITOR and India McTaggart, ENTERTAINMENT & ROYAL CORRESPONDENT'
The copying seems to be “whatever SpaceX was doing 5 years ago”
He’s been pointing out for years that patenting rocket technology merely provides a blueprint. How do you sue a government or a government’s pet military contractor for infringing?
EDIT : I’m expecting an other Long March 9 update, as are most observers. Following the announcement of Starship version 2.
"BBC is too politically correct, say working-class audiences Ofcom study has found viewers miss days when BBC was ‘fun’, with output becoming ‘dry’, ‘cringey’ and out of touch
By Anita Singh, ARTS AND ENTERTAINMENT EDITOR and India McTaggart, ENTERTAINMENT & ROYAL CORRESPONDENT'
How does the Telegraph know what ‘working class’ audiences think? Have they been talking to the cleaner and the gardener?
Unless you think Ofcom and the Telegraph are the same what is your point?
The report itself has one mention of the term "politically correct" on page 20 of the 34 page document: "A key issue, raised by a number of people that we spoke to, was that BBC programming is increasingly seen as dry and serious compared to other PSB channels and the major streaming services. While this was seen as appropriate for some genres (such as news and current affairs, and certain dramas), overall our participants felt there was more ‘fun’ content available elsewhere and often turned to other channels or to streaming services for more light-hearted programming. BBC content was also seen as increasingly ‘safe’ and, by some, overly politically correct. In explaining how the BBC has become ‘safe’ people mentioned past programming they had enjoyed but felt wouldn’t be made any more , or they mentioned presenters and talent that they felt the BBC used to employ but wouldn’t now (e.g. Ricky Gervais, Jeremy Clarkson)."
Not unexpectedly, the Telegraph's take on it probably isn't a balanced representation of the main points in the report.
The copying seems to be “whatever SpaceX was doing 5 years ago”
He’s been pointing out for years that patenting rocket technology merely provides a blueprint. How do you sue a government or a government’s pet military contractor for infringing?
EDIT : I’m expecting an other Long March 9 update, as are most observers. Following the announcement of Starship version 2.
It turns out copying rockets is a bit like copying Concorde. Viewers of the recent Channel 4 documentary will know how Russian spies passed the blueprints to Moscow but Russian engineers missed crucial aspects of the air intakes so while Concordski might have been first into service, it was also first to crash. https://www.channel4.com/programmes/concorde-the-race-for-supersonic
“You are trolling folks and trying to play political games so you can out-Trump Trump,” Newsom said. “How is that going for you, Ron? You are down 41 points in your own home state.”
Re Newsom, he seems to be the Dems 'Haley', ie seen as the most likely nomination if the frontrunner for some reason isn't. So I compared them (him and her) on betfair and it's interesting. They are similar (about 7) for their noms but Haley is a fair bit shorter (at 9 something) for the WH, implying that punters think she's almost nailed on in November if she's the candidate whereas he is definitely not.
I guess this means educated opinion is that Biden is more beatable by a Not Trump than Trump is by a Not Biden. And maybe that's right due to Trump's bigger 'core', ie of voters who think of him positively and passionately. Hate to stumble my way to a point supporting Trump's chances, so hopefully there's another and better explanation.
The copying seems to be “whatever SpaceX was doing 5 years ago”
He’s been pointing out for years that patenting rocket technology merely provides a blueprint. How do you sue a government or a government’s pet military contractor for infringing?
EDIT : I’m expecting an other Long March 9 update, as are most observers. Following the announcement of Starship version 2.
It turns out copying rockets is a bit like copying Concorde. Viewers of the recent Channel 4 documentary will know how Russian spies passed the blueprints to Moscow but Russian engineers missed crucial aspects of the air intakes so while Concordski might have been first into service, it was also first to crash. https://www.channel4.com/programmes/concorde-the-race-for-supersonic
The bigger “miss” with true Tu-144 was the wing shape.
They didn’t get delta wings right
Vulcan prototype
Vulcan production
The wing shape on the Concorde was even more sophisticated, curved in 3D.
They were attempting all up testing - for a tiny fraction of the Saturn 5 budget, they nearly got it working. A couple more launches and they would have had it working.
The big problems were a complete lack of ground testing of the individual engines - explosively opening valves! - plus poor computer control.
The program was already dead, politically, when they were launching. The Soviet leadership was already moving away from attempting to catch up with the Americans in space. Funding was already cut off - they were using up what they had to try and persuade the Big Bosses to turn the taps on again.
The copying seems to be “whatever SpaceX was doing 5 years ago”
He’s been pointing out for years that patenting rocket technology merely provides a blueprint. How do you sue a government or a government’s pet military contractor for infringing?
EDIT : I’m expecting an other Long March 9 update, as are most observers. Following the announcement of Starship version 2.
It turns out copying rockets is a bit like copying Concorde. Viewers of the recent Channel 4 documentary will know how Russian spies passed the blueprints to Moscow but Russian engineers missed crucial aspects of the air intakes so while Concordski might have been first into service, it was also first to crash. https://www.channel4.com/programmes/concorde-the-race-for-supersonic
IANAE, but I'm unconvinced by that argument. Yes, there was some copying, but the designs are actually significantly different in various ways; e.g. the canards on Konkordski, the positioning of the engines, and even the delta wing shapes differ.
What did converge were the requirements. And if you try to build something to do the same task with roughly the same technology level, you may get things that look very similar on the surface - because that's the best design for the job. The same thing happened with the Space Shuttle and Buran: they were designed to perform pretty much identical tasks, and so they look superficially similar.
The copying seems to be “whatever SpaceX was doing 5 years ago”
He’s been pointing out for years that patenting rocket technology merely provides a blueprint. How do you sue a government or a government’s pet military contractor for infringing?
EDIT : I’m expecting an other Long March 9 update, as are most observers. Following the announcement of Starship version 2.
It turns out copying rockets is a bit like copying Concorde. Viewers of the recent Channel 4 documentary will know how Russian spies passed the blueprints to Moscow but Russian engineers missed crucial aspects of the air intakes so while Concordski might have been first into service, it was also first to crash. https://www.channel4.com/programmes/concorde-the-race-for-supersonic
Yes Concordski was always going to be a total failure, because the Soviets didn’t understand the criticality of the wing and inlet design, even after they had the blueprints and were looking at them.
"BBC is too politically correct, say working-class audiences Ofcom study has found viewers miss days when BBC was ‘fun’, with output becoming ‘dry’, ‘cringey’ and out of touch
By Anita Singh, ARTS AND ENTERTAINMENT EDITOR and India McTaggart, ENTERTAINMENT & ROYAL CORRESPONDENT'
Fergus Butler-Gallie @_F_B_G_ Perfect Elgin Marbles solution: The King personally gives them back, but says he can only do so to a fellow sovereign. At short notice they need a monarch with Greek heritage and an obviously Greek name for a one way trip to Athens: step up Andrew
Fergus Butler-Gallie @_F_B_G_ Perfect Elgin Marbles solution: The King personally gives them back, but says he can only do so to a fellow sovereign. At short notice they need a monarch with Greek heritage and an obviously Greek name for a one way trip to Athens: step up Andrew
They were attempting all up testing - for a tiny fraction of the Saturn 5 budget, they nearly got it working. A couple more launches and they would have had it working.
The big problems were a complete lack of ground testing of the individual engines - explosively opening valves! - plus poor computer control.
The program was already dead, politically, when they were launching. The Soviet leadership was already moving away from attempting to catch up with the Americans in space. Funding was already cut off - they were using up what they had to try and persuade the Big Bosses to turn the taps on again.
What got me about the N1 was that, in order to launch it, they had to cut off water supply to the nearby city for a week or so - because of all the water required for the deluge system. Instead of building a better water supply, they just cut off the water supply to the people...
And yes, having engines that could not be ground-tested was stupid. As was not building a ground-test facility for stages, as the US did for Saturn V. From memory, the engineers and project managers knew this and argued for it.
“You are trolling folks and trying to play political games so you can out-Trump Trump,” Newsom said. “How is that going for you, Ron? You are down 41 points in your own home state.”
Re Newsom, he seems to be the Dems 'Haley', ie seen as the most likely nomination if the frontrunner for some reason isn't. So I compared them (him and her) on betfair and it's interesting. They are similar (about 7) for their noms but Haley is a fair bit shorter (at 9 something) for the WH, implying that punters think she's almost nailed on in November if she's the candidate whereas he is definitely not.
I guess this means educated opinion is that Biden is more beatable by a Not Trump than Trump is by a Not Biden. And maybe that's right due to Trump's bigger 'core', ie of voters who think of him positively and passionately. Hate to stumble my way to a point supporting Trump's chances, so hopefully there's another and better explanation.
Fairly simple, surely? Trump is a drag on the Republican ticket and still won one of two presidential elections as the electoral college as it stands favours the GOP. Biden is the only person with proof he can overcome that against Trump, but is currently polling level or behind Trump - with the former or a small lead likely resulting in a loss. All other things being equal and were the nomination not an issue, the person with the best chance in a theoretical election is a non-Trump Republican.
"BBC is too politically correct, say working-class audiences Ofcom study has found viewers miss days when BBC was ‘fun’, with output becoming ‘dry’, ‘cringey’ and out of touch
By Anita Singh, ARTS AND ENTERTAINMENT EDITOR and India McTaggart, ENTERTAINMENT & ROYAL CORRESPONDENT'
How does the Telegraph know what ‘working class’ audiences think? Have they been talking to the cleaner and the gardener?
Unless you think Ofcom and the Telegraph are the same what is your point?
The report itself has one mention of the term "politically correct" on page 20 of the 34 page document: "A key issue, raised by a number of people that we spoke to, was that BBC programming is increasingly seen as dry and serious compared to other PSB channels and the major streaming services. While this was seen as appropriate for some genres (such as news and current affairs, and certain dramas), overall our participants felt there was more ‘fun’ content available elsewhere and often turned to other channels or to streaming services for more light-hearted programming. BBC content was also seen as increasingly ‘safe’ and, by some, overly politically correct. In explaining how the BBC has become ‘safe’ people mentioned past programming they had enjoyed but felt wouldn’t be made any more , or they mentioned presenters and talent that they felt the BBC used to employ but wouldn’t now (e.g. Ricky Gervais, Jeremy Clarkson)."
Not unexpectedly, the Telegraph's take on it probably isn't a balanced representation of the main points in the report.
Bring back Jim'll Fix It and the Black and White Minstrels. Great days.
The photo of this thatchers heaven brings to mind: an Anglo Saxon mead hall of the Northumbrian golden age, a perfect building for a June wedding reception in cloudless sunshine, and the ideal setting for long drinks with little umbrellas in them. Please, no wars. Maybe Leon could report on this little known place sometime?
That's an interesting point: aren't many rural low-tech housing around the world essentially the same design? Round, wooden, mud or mud-brick walls, with strengthening material (e.g. hair), with a peaked wooden roof, with thatched covering.
There are obvious exceptions, e.g. Skara Brae on Orkney, but it seems a rather common example of convergent design evolution. The best shapes for strength, materials and purpose. I wonder if you could place an 1800-era tribesman from PNG in an Iron Age British roundhouse and have them feel at home?
He'd wonder why the locals were so badly dressed - no arsegrass* or penis sheaths.
And where all the tree kangaroos had gone.
But yes, the house would seem sensible to him ...
*correct term - a friend of mine did an internship at the diarrhoea specialist hospital (I forget what it was called) up country.
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It is the right thing to do, also as a member of the Commonwealth it is what the late Queen would have wanted.
Their existence is neo-colonialist imperialism anyway. After they have been driven from the land by the vastly superior Venezuelan forces, there is no prospect of their return. So the future facts on the ground demand their immediate capitulation.
I doubt most US voters care what happens there
So much for soft "British" power.
Perhaps any sabre rattling in Venezuela probably tells us far more about contemporary Venezuela than it does Guyana?
I note that Wiki seems to think the Guyana GDP is $20k/head not $10k/head. That is the 4th higherst in South America.
IIRC Guyana was the pioneer place where a decade ago a significant international endowment fund was setup to help preserve he rainforest. Have you run into any indication of how well that has worked, and how rainforest preservation might work with new oil wealth?
26 Methalox FFSC engines on the first stage.....
We could build a massive retirement complex there to solve our ageing population problem.
Guyana (former British Guiana)
Suriname (former Dutch Guiana)
French Guiana (still French, natch)
Portuguese Guiana (roughly corresponding to the Amapa State of Brazil)
and
Spanish Guiana (covering the Amazonas, Bolivar, and Delta Amacuro provinces of Venezuela). There's even a Cuidad Guayana in the region.
Wasn't HYUFD going on about the importance of links with India? They play cricket but dumped the King a lot longer ago than Guyana.
Figures vary, but there are in the order of 200,000 to 300,000 Guyanans living in he USA; mainly in New York. This is a large proportion of the ~800,000 population of Guyana itself.
40% of Guyanans are of Indian heritage, as a consequence of the abolition of slavery and its British roots (*); 30% are of West African heritage, brought over as part of the slave trade.
*Never* confuse Guyana with French Guiana. It annoys lots of people. The latter is best known for launching loads of rockets for FranceEurope.
The oil finds are causing an explosion in Guyana's GDP. This obviously has advantages, but also some rather serious potential consequences. Will all that money be spent and distributed wisely? Will it destabilise its already slightly rocky politics? Will it be able to be exploited to Guyana's advantage, especially if oil demand reduces over the next few decades?
For a different perspective, Forbes published the following after I wrote this, stating that war is unlikely. Some of the points it makes vary with what other sources (for instance that the 1966 Geneva Agreement voided the earlier agreement - that is very much Venezuela's position, which many other countries disagree with. Still, it is worth a read:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/eliasferrerbreda/2023/11/30/essequibo-dispute-no-plan-for-war-in-guyana/?sh=2c02005f15a4
(*) Not that I believe that the Indians who went to Guyana had a massively better life than the Africans had before. Life was hard, especially as indentured people.
Any resemblance to following is a coincidence....
We climbed up Mount Roriama and walked around the tripoint of Venezuela, Guyana and Brazil.
So I can state I have have visited Essequibo, if only briefly.
As I said outside British Overseas Territories or Commonwealth realms we don't go to war to defend any other nation without a UN or NATO mandate or under a US led campaign
https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/NY.GDP.PCAP.CD?locations=GY
There is a semi private Chinese rocket company that is doing the same for Falcon 9
So the Chinese are going for copying. Europe is going for Denial. As is trad aerospace in the US.
Wish someone would do something smart - see Stoke….
It is screamingly obvious there will be a full on extremist government jn the west within a decade or so
You could argue Trump was fairly close. Closer than Meloni. Orban is close
And it might not be extreme right - could be left. Certainly don’t rule it out. Everything is pushing politics towards the edges - tho my hunch is far right is much more likely because so much of the pressure is from migration and from the woke left pushing red buttons
We need to keep our powder dry to recover the Malvinas.
Lucid, cogent, direct, illuminating and thought-provoking. You give the background, you explain the issues, you offer context, you say why it matters. Bingo
Better than we will get from several major papers, probably
Irish Times journalist Kitty Holland says the Irish media "were right" to not publish the full comments of Ryan Casey, boyfriend of murdered 23-year-old Ashling Murphy, claiming that his remarks were "incitement to hatred" and that it wouldn't be "helpful" to share them.
As for far right v far left, yes the former has by far the easier path to power in the democratic west. It takes real skill and guts to fight racism and xenophobia. Pandering, fostering and exploiting it, less so.
I don't know. Much would depend on Venezuela's exact actions, and the reaction of neighbouring countries and the USA.
@SpeakerJohnson
told me he will vote AGAINST expelling
@MrSantosNY
https://twitter.com/JakeSherman/status/1730590623869112491
Effing LOL.
I guess they need his vote for Biden's impeachment.
LOL again.
(sorry, couldn't resist )
https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/111503576899732074
(Language might be nsfw.)
“You are trolling folks and trying to play political games so you can out-Trump Trump,” Newsom said. “How is that going for you, Ron? You are down 41 points in your own home state.”
Ofcom study has found viewers miss days when BBC was ‘fun’, with output becoming ‘dry’, ‘cringey’ and out of touch
By Anita Singh, ARTS AND ENTERTAINMENT EDITOR and India McTaggart, ENTERTAINMENT & ROYAL CORRESPONDENT'
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/11/30/bbc-too-politically-correct-working-class-audiences-ofcom
Fascism is possible, but I don't think it will actually resolve any of the issues driving people to vote for it. We have seen, for example, the abject failure of our populist rightist government to seriously control immigration ('tens of thousands', lol), because they don't take the problem seriously from a policy/delivery POV, only from a 'talking tough' optics POV. It doesn't cost much to have vans with GO HOME on the side driving around; developing a robust and modern immigration system (with the right staffing, infrastructure and equipment) does.
Per the excellent John Gray video (on Joe Media) somebody posted here a few days back, a lot of the popular outlook in our declining liberal democracies is quite leftist/statist in many ways.
If it does happen, Trump seems by far the most likely. He's a deranged narcissist with a massive groundswell of support (and tbh I feel the segments of the US are more apt to trying out a bit of full-on fash than in Europe, especially if it comes Gilead-flavoured).
There are obvious exceptions, e.g. Skara Brae on Orkney, but it seems a rather common example of convergent design evolution. The best shapes for strength, materials and purpose. I wonder if you could place an 1800-era tribesman from PNG in an Iron Age British roundhouse and have them feel at home?
Ofcom produced excellent studies like this pretty routinely; it's worth periodically checking in our their site to see what they're up to.
They were attempting all up testing - for a tiny fraction of the Saturn 5 budget, they nearly got it working. A couple more launches and they would have had it working.
The big problems were a complete lack of ground testing of the individual engines - explosively opening valves! - plus poor computer control.
The program was already dead, politically, when they were launching. The Soviet leadership was already moving away from attempting to catch up with the Americans in space. Funding was already cut off - they were using up what they had to try and persuade the Big Bosses to turn the taps on again.
Second, sometimes there is a "rally round the flag" effect in the US, where support for a president goes up -- usually for a short period of time -- in foreign crises.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rally_'round_the_flag_effect
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hogan
He’s been pointing out for years that patenting rocket technology merely provides a blueprint. How do you sue a government or a government’s pet military contractor for infringing?
EDIT : I’m expecting an other Long March 9 update, as are most observers. Following the announcement of Starship version 2.
"A key issue, raised by a number of people that we spoke to, was that BBC programming is increasingly
seen as dry and serious compared to other PSB channels and the major streaming services. While this
was seen as appropriate for some genres (such as news and current affairs, and certain dramas),
overall our participants felt there was more ‘fun’ content available elsewhere and often turned to
other channels or to streaming services for more light-hearted programming.
BBC content was also seen as increasingly ‘safe’ and, by some, overly politically correct. In explaining
how the BBC has become ‘safe’ people mentioned past programming they had enjoyed but felt
wouldn’t be made any more , or they mentioned presenters and talent that they felt the BBC used to
employ but wouldn’t now (e.g. Ricky Gervais, Jeremy Clarkson)."
Not unexpectedly, the Telegraph's take on it probably isn't a balanced representation of the main points in the report.
Mind you, it is slightly better than doing nothing - see Europe
No obvious movement as a result of the Autumn Statement. Libdems down and Reform up.
https://www.channel4.com/programmes/concorde-the-race-for-supersonic
I guess this means educated opinion is that Biden is more beatable by a Not Trump than Trump is by a Not Biden. And maybe that's right due to Trump's bigger 'core', ie of voters who think of him positively and passionately. Hate to stumble my way to a point supporting Trump's chances, so hopefully there's another and better explanation.
They didn’t get delta wings right
Vulcan prototype
Vulcan production
The wing shape on the Concorde was even more sophisticated, curved in 3D.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=gklVhRzkVqA
What did converge were the requirements. And if you try to build something to do the same task with roughly the same technology level, you may get things that look very similar on the surface - because that's the best design for the job. The same thing happened with the Space Shuttle and Buran: they were designed to perform pretty much identical tasks, and so they look superficially similar.
Prime Minister criticised by George Osborne after Sunak cancelled meeting with the Greek prime minister
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2023/12/01/kyriakos-mitsotakis-george-osborne-rishi-sunak-elgin-marble/ (£££)
Great headlines of our time but not Rishi's.
Osborne had suggested Rishi had a hissy fit because the Greek PM met Starmer.
Fergus Butler-Gallie
@_F_B_G_
Perfect Elgin Marbles solution: The King personally gives them back, but says he can only do so to a fellow sovereign. At short notice they need a monarch with Greek heritage and an obviously Greek name for a one way trip to Athens: step up Andrew
https://twitter.com/_F_B_G_/status/1730611567086157996
And yes, having engines that could not be ground-tested was stupid. As was not building a ground-test facility for stages, as the US did for Saturn V. From memory, the engineers and project managers knew this and argued for it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ouYoF9cQI44
And where all the tree kangaroos had gone.
But yes, the house would seem sensible to him ...
*correct term - a friend of mine did an internship at the diarrhoea specialist hospital (I forget what it was called) up country.