I think it is something to be proud of that we live in a country where people are judged not by the colour of their skin but the content of their character, as MLK put it. I think Yousef is Yousless for a whole range of reasons but his racial background is quite irrelevant and never seems to get a mention, except when his wife's family were at risk in Gaza when he got pretty universal sympathy. I think its great we live in a country like that and we don't often give ourselves enough credit for it.
i agree, heartily, but this is where you ignore Wokeness at your peril
Woke is ALL about judging people by the color of their skin. It is obsessed with race and colour, to a pathological degree. If you are white you are intrinsically evil and sinful and racist and there is nothing you can do about it, you are privileged and must forever apologize (but you can never apologize enough), and if you are black you are ALWAYS oppressed and exploited and the descendant of slaves even if you are a billionaire and don’t even notice race, thus you are infantilised, insultingly
That is one reason Wokeness is SO insidious and poisonous. it pains me that bright people like you cannot see the danger of this
That is how I always understood Wokeness. But it seems to have expanded in meaning massively so that now it has become meaningless.
No, Woke exists and we all know it
The best comparison is the term “Fascism”. It’s notoriously hard to define fascism in a couple of sentences - even Mussolini struggled! - but we all know what it is. Hitler’s Germany, Franco’s Spain, Benito’s Italy. I’d add iran under the ayatollahs and Gaza under Hamas, and several other Islamic examples. Islamofascism is real. Imperial Japan was fascist, too
But in the meantime lefties have expanded fascism to mean “everything I don’t like”, perhaps unhelpfully, but that doesn’t mean fascism does not exist. It does, Likewise Wokeness. It is a nebulous but powerful ideology and it is absolutely obsessed with racial and sexual identity, definitely including skin colour
A lot of the stuff under the umbrella of “woke” though should be separated out, because not all ‘wokery’ is the same.
Some ‘wokery’ is people just asking people to not be dicks to each other. Which is something I can heartily subscribe to.
Some ‘wokery’ seems to relate to the idea that one should be mindful of their position in society when interacting with others. Again, not particularly controversial in my view.
Then we get some ‘wokery’ that starts to get quasi religious in tone. The idea of generational sin. Identity above all else. The intolerance of debate and opinion. This is the controversial stuff. The problem is that it’s lumped together with everything else.
Oh, god, Michael Matheson has just shoved his kids under a bus...
Contemptible. And frankly raises far more questions than it answers, such as why the hell did you ever think that was something you could charge to the tax payer and why did you lie about it being constituency work?
So his kids had access to his constituency work?
Shocking.
Many more WFH scandals to come around kids' and spouses' access to confidential information imo.
Mind you, round about the turn of the century, it was common to overhear confidential information while commuting. Doctors, lawyers and social workers would openly discuss cases on mobile phones as if surrounded by a cone of silence.
Oh, the British Airways business class lounge at Heathrow would have been amazing for any potential insider trader. One would just need to wander round with ones ears open to hear people hard at work on acquisitions.
I've just had to complete some mandatory training covering exactly this point.
FWIW, I think it's probably still quite a good place if you come equipped with secret video and audio recording equipment. So long as it's high res, you'll probably manage to snag a screenshot of a presentation or an earnings release that is being worked on.
People believe things like "immigrants harmed the recovery" because that's what the papers tell them. There does seem to be an air that it is a reasonable response from a right winger to something factual is "yeah, you might have evidence, but it just sounds like bollocks, don't it?"
All that tells us is that most people are not statisticians. The same way they aren't historians or scientists or lawyers. Most people have big misconceptions about things that are outside their own field of experience.
It's like when a writer was complaining that nobody had heard of Marcus Lollius Urbicus, among famous black Britons. Why on earth would anyone who was not a specialist on Third Century Britain have heard of the man?
I think it is fair that people aren't statisticians - but these were not obscure questions; these were questions about the policy topics of the day that newspapers spent a lot of ink on. We know about the Fox News effect - that literally you are better informed watching no news then watching Fox News - I would argue there is a British newspaper effect - that you are likely better informed reading no British newspapers than reading a significant number of them.
I’m coming to the conclusion that the Tories WILL elect a Braverman type character when Sunak is gone. It might not be Braverman, it might be someone we’ve barely heard of, I doubt it will be Demi Bad Enoch, but it will be someone with - apparently - the minerals to challenge the Woke and a populist right wing agenda
Then we might see these polls tested in real elex. FWIW I have no idea who would win, it obvs depends on the opposition and the socioeconomic context, and whether we have all been killed in a nuclear war, or enslaved by AI or aliens
Either Braverman or Rees Mogg will be Conservative leader within a decade if the Tories lose the next general election under Sunak and Hunt and Cameron is my view
Rees-Mogg seems to have smoked something or other a little before Brexit. He's not what he was. Given his current state, and the Eton posh stuff he can't be leader.
Braverman has shown herself to be inconsiderate in an extreme sense. I hope we can rule her out too.
Only those 2 will be ideologically pure enough for the leader the members will want by then, assuming Sunak, Hunt and Cameron do lead the party to landslide defeat as the latest polls suggest
If (unwise) ideology becomes that important then the Tory party will cease to exist. I recently left, and what pushed me over the line was Braverman's ludicrous conference speech.
I think it is something to be proud of that we live in a country where people are judged not by the colour of their skin but the content of their character, as MLK put it. I think Yousef is Yousless for a whole range of reasons but his racial background is quite irrelevant and never seems to get a mention, except when his wife's family were at risk in Gaza when he got pretty universal sympathy. I think its great we live in a country like that and we don't often give ourselves enough credit for it.
i agree, heartily, but this is where you ignore Wokeness at your peril
Woke is ALL about judging people by the color of their skin. It is obsessed with race and colour, to a pathological degree. If you are white you are intrinsically evil and sinful and racist and there is nothing you can do about it, you are privileged and must forever apologize (but you can never apologize enough), and if you are black you are ALWAYS oppressed and exploited and the descendant of slaves even if you are a billionaire and don’t even notice race, thus you are infantilised, insultingly
That is one reason Wokeness is SO insidious and poisonous. it pains me that bright people like you cannot see the danger of this
That is how I always understood Wokeness. But it seems to have expanded in meaning massively so that now it has become meaningless.
No, Woke exists and we all know it
The best comparison is the term “Fascism”. It’s notoriously hard to define fascism in a couple of sentences - even Mussolini struggled! - but we all know what it is. Hitler’s Germany, Franco’s Spain, Benito’s Italy. I’d add iran under the ayatollahs and Gaza under Hamas, and several other Islamic examples. Islamofascism is real. Imperial Japan was fascist, too
“Scottish Labour deputy leader said parents of teenagers would understand the scenario.”
Ummm… no. If you have a work device you shouldn’t be letting your kids on it. Buy a personal device and let them use that.
Although if the article I read is right, the kids didn’t use the device but used it as a hotspot to access the internet via their own devices.
It’s the sort of sneaky thing I can imagine my own kids doing and, if it wasn’t for my device being utterly locked down regardless, I wouldn’t necessarily think to disable that function.
I think it is something to be proud of that we live in a country where people are judged not by the colour of their skin but the content of their character, as MLK put it. I think Yousef is Yousless for a whole range of reasons but his racial background is quite irrelevant and never seems to get a mention, except when his wife's family were at risk in Gaza when he got pretty universal sympathy. I think its great we live in a country like that and we don't often give ourselves enough credit for it.
i agree, heartily, but this is where you ignore Wokeness at your peril
Woke is ALL about judging people by the color of their skin..
Is it ? On the contrary, it's a nebulous term which covers a very wide range of beliefs, IMO.
It's rather that you (or the strain of right wing thought you've currently adopted) are determined to label anyone with vaguely liberal beliefs as obsessed by the colour of people's skin.
Jesus. Have you missed all the seminal texts of Woke Racial Theory? Here’s a reading list, These really are THE texts os Wokeness where it collides with race
WHY I’M NO LONGER TALKING TO WHITE PEOPLE ABOUT RACE
You are a strange PB character. Never that exciting, but occasionally somewhat sage, but I wonder if the sageness is merely a false impression created by your having a decent education and being quite polite, and actually you are dumb as a bloody breezeblock
The earliest usage of woke in this context seems to be around 100 years ago. It's part of African American slang as a general expression of being politically active, or as a way to express the idea that whilst things might get better, incremental change / individual success is not the same as equality - "stay woke brother" being something you might say to someone who got a corporate job or such to remember where they came from.
In the modern vernacular it has taken over from "PC gone mad". To me it just seems to be a catch all phrase for anything reactionaries think the left believe and therefore they hate.
And yet there are things that the left seem to believe are absolutely true that others do not accept. Take gender ID. Many people do not believe that you can choose to be a woman if you are born genetically as a man. This should not affect (within reason) how someone lives their life, but there are lines that ought not be crossed. Sporting categories for women being one. Safe spaces for women being another.
I have no idea how what you've said relates to anything I've said - other than just as a justification for being against things left wing people supposedly believe. A lot of people who consider themselves on the left can be just as anti trans as you want them to be.
Oh, god, Michael Matheson has just shoved his kids under a bus...
Contemptible. And frankly raises far more questions than it answers, such as why the hell did you ever think that was something you could charge to the tax payer and why did you lie about it being constituency work?
So his kids had access to his constituency work?
Shocking.
Many more WFH scandals to come around kids' and spouses' access to confidential information imo.
Mind you, round about the turn of the century, it was common to overhear confidential information while commuting. Doctors, lawyers and social workers would openly discuss cases on mobile phones as if surrounded by a cone of silence.
Oh, the British Airways business class lounge at Heathrow would have been amazing for any potential insider trader. One would just need to wander round with ones ears open to hear people hard at work on acquisitions.
Is that technically insider trading? I'm not sure overheard information from strangers counts, both because an airport lounge is a public setting (even if it is restricted to ticket holders) and there's not an obligation on me not to disclose information that I received simply by standing within earshot of an indiscreet stranger. Not totally sure on this and it may differ by country.
I’m coming to the conclusion that the Tories WILL elect a Braverman type character when Sunak is gone. It might not be Braverman, it might be someone we’ve barely heard of, I doubt it will be Demi Bad Enoch, but it will be someone with - apparently - the minerals to challenge the Woke and a populist right wing agenda
Then we might see these polls tested in real elex. FWIW I have no idea who would win, it obvs depends on the opposition and the socioeconomic context, and whether we have all been killed in a nuclear war, or enslaved by AI or aliens
Either Braverman or Rees Mogg will be Conservative leader within a decade if the Tories lose the next general election under Sunak and Hunt and Cameron is my view
Rees-Mogg seems to have smoked something or other a little before Brexit. He's not what he was. Given his current state, and the Eton posh stuff he can't be leader.
Braverman has shown herself to be inconsiderate in an extreme sense. I hope we can rule her out too.
Only those 2 will be ideologically pure enough for the leader the members will want by then, assuming Sunak, Hunt and Cameron do lead the party to landslide defeat as the latest polls suggest
If (unwise) ideology becomes that important then the Tory party will cease to exist. I recently left, and what pushed me over the line was Braverman's ludicrous conference speech.
As long as there is no credible alternative on the right-of-centre, the Tories will continue to exist. At the moment, there isn't because Reform, as well as being far less-well organised and less embedded in the system (incumbency, name recognition, tactical votes etc), is chasing the same segment of voters.
But they are structurally fragile and vulnerable to an attack from the centre. The Lib Dems will probably blow it by setting themselves up, trying to be a 'nicer Labour' instead.
PR could blow the whole thing up but Labour might want to be careful of what it wishes for there - there's no guarantee that what emerges on the right will be a more pleasant prospect. Or on the left, for that matter.
Tower Hamlets students now marching to @rushanaraali’s office after she shamefully refused to vote for a ceasefire last night. #SchoolStrikeForPalestine #FreePalestine 🇵🇸 #CeasefireNOW Tower Hamlets, who would have thought it?
Oh, god, Michael Matheson has just shoved his kids under a bus...
Contemptible. And frankly raises far more questions than it answers, such as why the hell did you ever think that was something you could charge to the tax payer and why did you lie about it being constituency work?
So his kids had access to his constituency work?
Shocking.
Many more WFH scandals to come around kids' and spouses' access to confidential information imo.
Mind you, round about the turn of the century, it was common to overhear confidential information while commuting. Doctors, lawyers and social workers would openly discuss cases on mobile phones as if surrounded by a cone of silence.
Oh, the British Airways business class lounge at Heathrow would have been amazing for any potential insider trader. One would just need to wander round with ones ears open to hear people hard at work on acquisitions.
Is that technically insider trading? I'm not sure overheard information from strangers counts, both because an airport lounge is a public setting (even if it is restricted to ticket holders) and there's not an obligation on me not to disclose information that I received simply by standing within earshot of an indiscreet stranger.
For the record, I never did it. But I would assume it is illegal.
But there are clearly grey areas. If I see the CEO of a company boarding a flight to a place where his biggest competitor is headquartered, I can guess they are talking about a merger.
Oh, god, Michael Matheson has just shoved his kids under a bus...
Contemptible. And frankly raises far more questions than it answers, such as why the hell did you ever think that was something you could charge to the tax payer and why did you lie about it being constituency work?
So his kids had access to his constituency work?
Shocking.
Many more WFH scandals to come around kids' and spouses' access to confidential information imo.
Mind you, round about the turn of the century, it was common to overhear confidential information while commuting. Doctors, lawyers and social workers would openly discuss cases on mobile phones as if surrounded by a cone of silence.
Oh, the British Airways business class lounge at Heathrow would have been amazing for any potential insider trader. One would just need to wander round with ones ears open to hear people hard at work on acquisitions.
Is that technically insider trading? I'm not sure overheard information from strangers counts, both because an airport lounge is a public setting (even if it is restricted to ticket holders) and there's not an obligation on me not to disclose information that I received simply by standing within earshot of an indiscreet stranger. Not totally sure on this and it may differ by country.
Probably GDPR issues in theory too.
That said, proving either charge would be all-but impossible without audio and visual recordings, and the knowledge of where and when to look.
I’m coming to the conclusion that the Tories WILL elect a Braverman type character when Sunak is gone. It might not be Braverman, it might be someone we’ve barely heard of, I doubt it will be Demi Bad Enoch, but it will be someone with - apparently - the minerals to challenge the Woke and a populist right wing agenda
Then we might see these polls tested in real elex. FWIW I have no idea who would win, it obvs depends on the opposition and the socioeconomic context, and whether we have all been killed in a nuclear war, or enslaved by AI or aliens
Either Braverman or Rees Mogg will be Conservative leader within a decade if the Tories lose the next general election under Sunak and Hunt and Cameron is my view
Rees-Mogg seems to have smoked something or other a little before Brexit. He's not what he was. Given his current state, and the Eton posh stuff he can't be leader.
Braverman has shown herself to be inconsiderate in an extreme sense. I hope we can rule her out too.
Only those 2 will be ideologically pure enough for the leader the members will want by then, assuming Sunak, Hunt and Cameron do lead the party to landslide defeat as the latest polls suggest
There are two scenarios, the pre-election replacement or the post-election replacement.
The pre-election replacement primarily will stem from panic rather than ideology - a few Jenkyns type malcontents but mainly MPs between seats 100-250 looking at what serves their own prospects. As usual Sunak wins the VONC but weakly enough to be fatally damaged and the grey suits say he cannot fight the election. On an MP only franchise Cleverly wins, says everyone knows what Conservative values are (sound money, aspiration etc) and promises the party will align back to them, and with any sign of a polling boost calls a GE in fairly short order.
After the election it's from a short list of survivors, involves the membership and does go ideological as you say.
I think it is something to be proud of that we live in a country where people are judged not by the colour of their skin but the content of their character, as MLK put it. I think Yousef is Yousless for a whole range of reasons but his racial background is quite irrelevant and never seems to get a mention, except when his wife's family were at risk in Gaza when he got pretty universal sympathy. I think its great we live in a country like that and we don't often give ourselves enough credit for it.
i agree, heartily, but this is where you ignore Wokeness at your peril
Woke is ALL about judging people by the color of their skin. It is obsessed with race and colour, to a pathological degree. If you are white you are intrinsically evil and sinful and racist and there is nothing you can do about it, you are privileged and must forever apologize (but you can never apologize enough), and if you are black you are ALWAYS oppressed and exploited and the descendant of slaves even if you are a billionaire and don’t even notice race, thus you are infantilised, insultingly
That is one reason Wokeness is SO insidious and poisonous. it pains me that bright people like you cannot see the danger of this
That is how I always understood Wokeness. But it seems to have expanded in meaning massively so that now it has become meaningless.
No, Woke exists and we all know it
The best comparison is the term “Fascism”. It’s notoriously hard to define fascism in a couple of sentences - even Mussolini struggled! - but we all know what it is. Hitler’s Germany, Franco’s Spain, Benito’s Italy. I’d add iran under the ayatollahs and Gaza under Hamas, and several other Islamic examples. Islamofascism is real. Imperial Japan was fascist, too
I think all of these so called 'Fascist' regimes are just what they are individually. Eg. Imperial Japan was just Japanese history working itself out. I don't think it makes any sense to connect it with anything in the west.
When my daughter did her Physics GCSE in 2016 they got a sheet of formulas. When my son did his Physics GCSE last year similarly they got a sheet of formulas.
This is not quite as straight forward as it appears though. The formulas they are given change each year depending on what questions are being asked in the exam. The reason for this is the exam boards include some questions specifically about formulas and you are expected to know them for those questions. Hence they are not on the sheet. The formulas they are given are for questions where the exam board is looking at understanding of principles rather than the ability to learn rote. Hence the formulas themselves are given in the crib sheet.
Can I just check that you know your daughter sat the *old* GCSE and that in the *new* one designed by Mr Gove (whom you so admire) candidates are not supposed to be given formula sheets? That's a change that came in as a result of Covid and it was meant to be temporary.
I agree with you and Foxy that it's stupid not to give them such sheets. But that's the idea.
It's all a part of the new exams which are a test of rote learning not really a test of intelligence.
I think it is something to be proud of that we live in a country where people are judged not by the colour of their skin but the content of their character, as MLK put it. I think Yousef is Yousless for a whole range of reasons but his racial background is quite irrelevant and never seems to get a mention, except when his wife's family were at risk in Gaza when he got pretty universal sympathy. I think its great we live in a country like that and we don't often give ourselves enough credit for it.
i agree, heartily, but this is where you ignore Wokeness at your peril
Woke is ALL about judging people by the color of their skin. It is obsessed with race and colour, to a pathological degree. If you are white you are intrinsically evil and sinful and racist and there is nothing you can do about it, you are privileged and must forever apologize (but you can never apologize enough), and if you are black you are ALWAYS oppressed and exploited and the descendant of slaves even if you are a billionaire and don’t even notice race, thus you are infantilised, insultingly
That is one reason Wokeness is SO insidious and poisonous. it pains me that bright people like you cannot see the danger of this
It's also, at heart, racist. It believes, that given the same opportunities, and all else being equal, black kids will be outperformed by their white counterparts. I think this is unscientific rubbish, and means that the genuine reasons that some immigrant communities get left behind are not solved.
My understanding is that it literally disagrees with that, and just argues that the first bit (same opportunities) are literally what isn't provided, hence the unequal outcomes.
If the remnants of previous more obviously unequal societal structures are not the causes of the still unequal societal structures of today - what are the causes?
Then why the calls for alterations to the education system because the measures of success used are apparently not conducive to black kids succeeding? There should be no reason why black kids can't succeed by the same academic yardsticks as their white counterparts, and lowering expectations for all is not helpful at all in achieving this.
Oh, I can explain that and also give an example I've used here before.
Take young black Caribbean boys. A study was done (I want to say in the early - mid noughties) looking into why that group was specifically over represented in disciplinary actions and suspensions - and wanted to look at how early this started and why. So, they went and watched young black Caribbean boys in early years education in different schools. One of the things this study noted was how black Caribbean boys specifically were called out by their teachers as being disruptive in the class. It noted that teachers would see these boys taking their time getting their pencils ready, sharpening their pencils, and generally preparing to do the work and considered that them procrastinating, and told them off or punished them for it.
When the same researchers went in to the homes of these boys what they noticed was how their elders (who would teach them to do things or they would watch cook or clean etc.) would put a lot of emphasis in preparing their tools before working - cleaning all the kitchen equipment before starting to chop and cook, sharpening garden tools before gardening, etc.
So this cultural difference - an emphasis of having all your ducks in a row before starting a task - was impacting children at a very young age and was interpreted by teachers as disruptive behaviour, for which they were punished. Now, imagine this continues - these children are punished more / miss more time from class for something they just see as getting down to work, and also generally become more defensive against teachers / distrustful of education - and you can see why students from that background may have worse outcomes further down the lines. This research didn't say it was the only factor, but that it started so early and was reinforced suggested it could be a significant factor.
Now, start doing this with lots of other variables - other cultural practices, income inequality, education of the parents, etc. - and you can see how lots of small differences in opportunity (literally, just a cultural difference in understanding what it means to get ready to do work means) can have big impacts later on. One of the things we always note in my work (on barriers into Higher Education) is that the biggest predictor of good A-Levels and going to university is whether your mother has a undergraduate degree. Doesn't seem to matter too much if your dad does, but if your mother does it helps (some suggestions are that "helping the kids with homework" etc. is still typically gendered work in the household, and so the more educated your mum is, the better chances you have of performing well; it does not seem to be about income which was controlled for).
Oh, god, Michael Matheson has just shoved his kids under a bus...
Contemptible. And frankly raises far more questions than it answers, such as why the hell did you ever think that was something you could charge to the tax payer and why did you lie about it being constituency work?
So his kids had access to his constituency work?
Shocking.
Many more WFH scandals to come around kids' and spouses' access to confidential information imo.
Mind you, round about the turn of the century, it was common to overhear confidential information while commuting. Doctors, lawyers and social workers would openly discuss cases on mobile phones as if surrounded by a cone of silence.
Oh, the British Airways business class lounge at Heathrow would have been amazing for any potential insider trader. One would just need to wander round with ones ears open to hear people hard at work on acquisitions.
Is that technically insider trading? I'm not sure overheard information from strangers counts, both because an airport lounge is a public setting (even if it is restricted to ticket holders) and there's not an obligation on me not to disclose information that I received simply by standing within earshot of an indiscreet stranger. Not totally sure on this and it may differ by country.
Probably GDPR issues in theory too.
That said, proving either charge would be all-but impossible without audio and visual recordings, and the knowledge of where and when to look.
Why GDPR? Information that exists in your head as a result of someone saying it in earshot has nothing to do with GDPR.
I think it is something to be proud of that we live in a country where people are judged not by the colour of their skin but the content of their character, as MLK put it. I think Yousef is Yousless for a whole range of reasons but his racial background is quite irrelevant and never seems to get a mention, except when his wife's family were at risk in Gaza when he got pretty universal sympathy. I think its great we live in a country like that and we don't often give ourselves enough credit for it.
i agree, heartily, but this is where you ignore Wokeness at your peril
Woke is ALL about judging people by the color of their skin..
Is it ? On the contrary, it's a nebulous term which covers a very wide range of beliefs, IMO.
It's rather that you (or the strain of right wing thought you've currently adopted) are determined to label anyone with vaguely liberal beliefs as obsessed by the colour of people's skin.
Jesus. Have you missed all the seminal texts of Woke Racial Theory? Here’s a reading list, These really are THE texts os Wokeness where it collides with race
WHY I’M NO LONGER TALKING TO WHITE PEOPLE ABOUT RACE
You are a strange PB character. Never that exciting, but occasionally somewhat sage, but I wonder if the sageness is merely a false impression created by your having a decent education and being quite polite, and actually you are dumb as a bloody breezeblock
Of course I'm aware if that nonsense, you pill.
Your IQ is clearly too low to understand my point - or indeed to challenge the new right tropes you've swallowed wholesale.
As I said, you are never exciting (as in witty or diverting or unexpectedly fun). You really didn’t have to prove my point in your very next unexciting and predictable comment. But there we are
I think it is something to be proud of that we live in a country where people are judged not by the colour of their skin but the content of their character, as MLK put it. I think Yousef is Yousless for a whole range of reasons but his racial background is quite irrelevant and never seems to get a mention, except when his wife's family were at risk in Gaza when he got pretty universal sympathy. I think its great we live in a country like that and we don't often give ourselves enough credit for it.
i agree, heartily, but this is where you ignore Wokeness at your peril
Woke is ALL about judging people by the color of their skin. It is obsessed with race and colour, to a pathological degree. If you are white you are intrinsically evil and sinful and racist and there is nothing you can do about it, you are privileged and must forever apologize (but you can never apologize enough), and if you are black you are ALWAYS oppressed and exploited and the descendant of slaves even if you are a billionaire and don’t even notice race, thus you are infantilised, insultingly
That is one reason Wokeness is SO insidious and poisonous. it pains me that bright people like you cannot see the danger of this
That is how I always understood Wokeness. But it seems to have expanded in meaning massively so that now it has become meaningless.
No, Woke exists and we all know it
The best comparison is the term “Fascism”. It’s notoriously hard to define fascism in a couple of sentences - even Mussolini struggled! - but we all know what it is. Hitler’s Germany, Franco’s Spain, Benito’s Italy. I’d add iran under the ayatollahs and Gaza under Hamas, and several other Islamic examples. Islamofascism is real. Imperial Japan was fascist, too
I think all of these so called 'Fascist' regimes are just what they are individually. Eg. Imperial Japan was just Japanese history working itself out. I don't think it makes any sense to connect it with anything in the west.
I kinda agree with scholars that talk about fascism as a set of syncretic belief structures, not necessarily specific beliefs themselves (like anti-Semitism isn't inherent to fascism, but an enemy "other" is). That's why I tend towards going through Umberto Eco's list and being like "how many of these work for this political movement?"
“Scottish Labour deputy leader said parents of teenagers would understand the scenario.”
Ummm… no. If you have a work device you shouldn’t be letting your kids on it. Buy a personal device and let them use that.
Although if the article I read is right, the kids didn’t use the device but used it as a hotspot to access the internet via their own devices.
It’s the sort of sneaky thing I can imagine my own kids doing and, if it wasn’t for my device being utterly locked down regardless, I wouldn’t necessarily think to disable that function.
But the lying when caught…/ nah.
Don’t you need a password to use a device as a hotspot? I can plausibly see how that might have been given out earlier, and then they have access at any time - but once again that relies on you giving out info about your work device, and people should be keeping their work device utterly separated from everything and everyone else in their home.
Oh, god, Michael Matheson has just shoved his kids under a bus...
Contemptible. And frankly raises far more questions than it answers, such as why the hell did you ever think that was something you could charge to the tax payer and why did you lie about it being constituency work?
So his kids had access to his constituency work?
Shocking.
Many more WFH scandals to come around kids' and spouses' access to confidential information imo.
Mind you, round about the turn of the century, it was common to overhear confidential information while commuting. Doctors, lawyers and social workers would openly discuss cases on mobile phones as if surrounded by a cone of silence.
Oh, the British Airways business class lounge at Heathrow would have been amazing for any potential insider trader. One would just need to wander round with ones ears open to hear people hard at work on acquisitions.
I've just had to complete some mandatory training covering exactly this point.
“Scottish Labour deputy leader said parents of teenagers would understand the scenario.”
Ummm… no. If you have a work device you shouldn’t be letting your kids on it. Buy a personal device and let them use that.
Although if the article I read is right, the kids didn’t use the device but used it as a hotspot to access the internet via their own devices.
It’s the sort of sneaky thing I can imagine my own kids doing and, if it wasn’t for my device being utterly locked down regardless, I wouldn’t necessarily think to disable that function.
But the lying when caught…/ nah.
Don’t you need a password to use a device as a hotspot?
Not always. Some railway stations and Costa stores don't.
I think it is something to be proud of that we live in a country where people are judged not by the colour of their skin but the content of their character, as MLK put it. I think Yousef is Yousless for a whole range of reasons but his racial background is quite irrelevant and never seems to get a mention, except when his wife's family were at risk in Gaza when he got pretty universal sympathy. I think its great we live in a country like that and we don't often give ourselves enough credit for it.
i agree, heartily, but this is where you ignore Wokeness at your peril
Woke is ALL about judging people by the color of their skin. It is obsessed with race and colour, to a pathological degree. If you are white you are intrinsically evil and sinful and racist and there is nothing you can do about it, you are privileged and must forever apologize (but you can never apologize enough), and if you are black you are ALWAYS oppressed and exploited and the descendant of slaves even if you are a billionaire and don’t even notice race, thus you are infantilised, insultingly
That is one reason Wokeness is SO insidious and poisonous. it pains me that bright people like you cannot see the danger of this
That is how I always understood Wokeness. But it seems to have expanded in meaning massively so that now it has become meaningless.
No, Woke exists and we all know it
The best comparison is the term “Fascism”. It’s notoriously hard to define fascism in a couple of sentences - even Mussolini struggled! - but we all know what it is. Hitler’s Germany, Franco’s Spain, Benito’s Italy. I’d add iran under the ayatollahs and Gaza under Hamas, and several other Islamic examples. Islamofascism is real. Imperial Japan was fascist, too
I think all of these so called 'Fascist' regimes are just what they are individually. Eg. Imperial Japan was just Japanese history working itself out. I don't think it makes any sense to connect it with anything in the west.
I kinda agree with scholars that talk about fascism as a set of syncretic belief structures, not necessarily specific beliefs themselves (like anti-Semitism isn't inherent to fascism, but an enemy "other" is). That's why I tend towards going through Umberto Eco's list and being like "how many of these work for this political movement?"
Could you send me an email explaining all that. You've entirely lost me.
I think it is something to be proud of that we live in a country where people are judged not by the colour of their skin but the content of their character, as MLK put it. I think Yousef is Yousless for a whole range of reasons but his racial background is quite irrelevant and never seems to get a mention, except when his wife's family were at risk in Gaza when he got pretty universal sympathy. I think its great we live in a country like that and we don't often give ourselves enough credit for it.
i agree, heartily, but this is where you ignore Wokeness at your peril
Woke is ALL about judging people by the color of their skin. It is obsessed with race and colour, to a pathological degree. If you are white you are intrinsically evil and sinful and racist and there is nothing you can do about it, you are privileged and must forever apologize (but you can never apologize enough), and if you are black you are ALWAYS oppressed and exploited and the descendant of slaves even if you are a billionaire and don’t even notice race, thus you are infantilised, insultingly
That is one reason Wokeness is SO insidious and poisonous. it pains me that bright people like you cannot see the danger of this
“Scottish Labour deputy leader said parents of teenagers would understand the scenario.”
Ummm… no. If you have a work device you shouldn’t be letting your kids on it. Buy a personal device and let them use that.
Although if the article I read is right, the kids didn’t use the device but used it as a hotspot to access the internet via their own devices.
It’s the sort of sneaky thing I can imagine my own kids doing and, if it wasn’t for my device being utterly locked down regardless, I wouldn’t necessarily think to disable that function.
But the lying when caught…/ nah.
Yep. He tried to steal £11k from the taxpayer by claiming it was incurred doing constituency work. He should be gone. (And arguably up on a charge of attempted fraud but that will almost certainly never happen).
“Scottish Labour deputy leader said parents of teenagers would understand the scenario.”
Ummm… no. If you have a work device you shouldn’t be letting your kids on it. Buy a personal device and let them use that.
Although if the article I read is right, the kids didn’t use the device but used it as a hotspot to access the internet via their own devices.
It’s the sort of sneaky thing I can imagine my own kids doing and, if it wasn’t for my device being utterly locked down regardless, I wouldn’t necessarily think to disable that function.
But the lying when caught…/ nah.
They wouldn't be able to use the hot-spot without having the password for the iPad to turn on the WiFi hot-spot, or, if it was already turned on, the password to access the hot-spot. On a government device. It's wrong on so many levels:
Not changing the sim when instructed to Allowing someone else to access your device, or leaving it unattended where it could be accessed by someone else Not impressing on your family, especially your kids, that this is not an OK thing to do and a potentially sackable scenario Giving family members the password for the device and/or the password for the hot-spot Being oblivious to the unlawful access (is this credible?) Being incuurious about how the bill had been run up before putting in the expenses claim (again, is this credible?) Lying about it to your fellow party members, and Scottish parliament.
I think it is something to be proud of that we live in a country where people are judged not by the colour of their skin but the content of their character, as MLK put it. I think Yousef is Yousless for a whole range of reasons but his racial background is quite irrelevant and never seems to get a mention, except when his wife's family were at risk in Gaza when he got pretty universal sympathy. I think its great we live in a country like that and we don't often give ourselves enough credit for it.
i agree, heartily, but this is where you ignore Wokeness at your peril
Woke is ALL about judging people by the color of their skin. It is obsessed with race and colour, to a pathological degree. If you are white you are intrinsically evil and sinful and racist and there is nothing you can do about it, you are privileged and must forever apologize (but you can never apologize enough), and if you are black you are ALWAYS oppressed and exploited and the descendant of slaves even if you are a billionaire and don’t even notice race, thus you are infantilised, insultingly
That is one reason Wokeness is SO insidious and poisonous. it pains me that bright people like you cannot see the danger of this
That is how I always understood Wokeness. But it seems to have expanded in meaning massively so that now it has become meaningless.
No, Woke exists and we all know it
The best comparison is the term “Fascism”. It’s notoriously hard to define fascism in a couple of sentences - even Mussolini struggled! - but we all know what it is. Hitler’s Germany, Franco’s Spain, Benito’s Italy. I’d add iran under the ayatollahs and Gaza under Hamas, and several other Islamic examples. Islamofascism is real. Imperial Japan was fascist, too
I think all of these so called 'Fascist' regimes are just what they are individually. Eg. Imperial Japan was just Japanese history working itself out. I don't think it makes any sense to connect it with anything in the west.
I kinda agree with scholars that talk about fascism as a set of syncretic belief structures, not necessarily specific beliefs themselves (like anti-Semitism isn't inherent to fascism, but an enemy "other" is). That's why I tend towards going through Umberto Eco's list and being like "how many of these work for this political movement?"
How to spot a fascist is a brilliant little book, not much more than a pamphlet really.
Oh, god, Michael Matheson has just shoved his kids under a bus...
Contemptible. And frankly raises far more questions than it answers, such as why the hell did you ever think that was something you could charge to the tax payer and why did you lie about it being constituency work?
So his kids had access to his constituency work?
Shocking.
Many more WFH scandals to come around kids' and spouses' access to confidential information imo.
Mind you, round about the turn of the century, it was common to overhear confidential information while commuting. Doctors, lawyers and social workers would openly discuss cases on mobile phones as if surrounded by a cone of silence.
Oh, the British Airways business class lounge at Heathrow would have been amazing for any potential insider trader. One would just need to wander round with ones ears open to hear people hard at work on acquisitions.
Is that technically insider trading? I'm not sure overheard information from strangers counts, both because an airport lounge is a public setting (even if it is restricted to ticket holders) and there's not an obligation on me not to disclose information that I received simply by standing within earshot of an indiscreet stranger. Not totally sure on this and it may differ by country.
Probably GDPR issues in theory too.
That said, proving either charge would be all-but impossible without audio and visual recordings, and the knowledge of where and when to look.
Why GDPR? Information that exists in your head as a result of someone saying it in earshot has nothing to do with GDPR.
Right to hold/store data - and, hence, implicitly, act on it.
“Scottish Labour deputy leader said parents of teenagers would understand the scenario.”
Ummm… no. If you have a work device you shouldn’t be letting your kids on it. Buy a personal device and let them use that.
Although if the article I read is right, the kids didn’t use the device but used it as a hotspot to access the internet via their own devices.
It’s the sort of sneaky thing I can imagine my own kids doing and, if it wasn’t for my device being utterly locked down regardless, I wouldn’t necessarily think to disable that function.
But the lying when caught…/ nah.
Don’t you need a password to use a device as a hotspot?
Not always. Some railway stations and Costa stores don't.
But on a personal device? Certainly every time I have done so with a new device, I have had a default password set up. I suppose you can remove it? (But you shouldn’t!)
I’m coming to the conclusion that the Tories WILL elect a Braverman type character when Sunak is gone. It might not be Braverman, it might be someone we’ve barely heard of, I doubt it will be Demi Bad Enoch, but it will be someone with - apparently - the minerals to challenge the Woke and a populist right wing agenda
Then we might see these polls tested in real elex. FWIW I have no idea who would win, it obvs depends on the opposition and the socioeconomic context, and whether we have all been killed in a nuclear war, or enslaved by AI or aliens
Either Braverman or Rees Mogg will be Conservative leader within a decade if the Tories lose the next general election under Sunak and Hunt and Cameron is my view
Rees Mogg is at danger of losing his seat if it is a landslide.
Albeit Labour and the LDs were almost neck and neck in 2019 so split opposition helps him.
Even if he did Tony Benn lost his Bristol seat in the Conservative 1983 landslide but was back as an MP the following year when he won the 1984 Chesterfield by election
Is there an epithet used by white people to describe or address other white people?
The only thing that I can think of that's vaguely similar to the n-word or 'brother' and 'sister' (or is it brotha and sista?) for the whites is to describe someone as 'a local', but though that implies white in white countries, it certainly doesn't cover all whites even from the same country
I think there are regional ones - but probably not all white people (but that's partly because whiteness is a construct).
The reasons why AAV is what it is is partly because there is such a thing as "black" people in the American context - because descendants of slaves did not know which African countries or traditions they came from, so the thing they had in common was (and is) skin colour and their treatment because of it. That isn't the case for white people, who can point to a specific country / tradition (which is why many white Americans still describe themselves as being "German" or "Irish" or "Italian" despite three or four generations having been on American soil)
I imagine it follows that white minorities might end up using the local vernacular to describe each other in their communities
On a tangentially related note, and to the coconut discussion earlier, I think that the only three people I've met who had the nickname 'Chalky' who didn't have the surname Chalk were older black guys
The name was obviously racially motivated and like a Little John in its mockery, but was it also like a "coconut" from the otherwise racists who adopted the black guy into their social circle?
60% of current and 2019 Conservative voters still want to fly asylum seekers to Rwanda, even if only a plurality want to withdraw from the ECHR.
Hence Sunak is right to try and renegotiate with Rwanda to ensure asylum seekers cannot be deported back to where they fled from, as the SC wanted assurances on yesterday
No, that's quite wrong. The Supreme Court didn't "want assurances". Assurances had already been given.
The Supreme Court ruled that despite those assurances there were "substantial grounds for believing that there is a real risk of refoulement". That was partly because in a previous arrangement with Israel, Rwanda had given similar assurances and failed to respect them.
Sunak's approach seems to be along the lines of "OK you pointed out I can't trust this bloke because he's lied to people before. But it's OK - I'll ask him to say he really means it this time."
Excellent summary. I really do not see how the government overcomes the evidential basis for the Supreme Court decision.
Does it need to overcome anything? Doesn't it just legislate the issue away by saying that what it wants to be true is, in law, true.
No, or at least no when we remain in the ECHR and a signatory to a number of UN agreements which are referred to in the judgment. That requires the court to look behind the legislation to see what the substantive effect is on the rights given by those documents. The Court of Appeal did look and did not like what they saw and the Supreme Court has agreed with them.
In theory, Parliamentary Supremacy requires the court to have due regard to the laws passed by Parliament so an Act which made it the law that the world is resting on the back of a turtle held up by 4 elephants would require the courts to determine any cases on that basis. But when the law requires the courts to have regard to the rights and obligations that we have given and undertaking we are in different territory. I don't see how mere legislation can fix that.
Notwithstanding clauses?
IANAE on this area of the law but my understanding is that a court could not construe a "not withstanding" clause in a way that was incompatible with Convention rights. That certainly seems to me to be the clear implication of the reasoning of the decision.
Essentially his conclusion is that primary legislation overriding the relevant conventions "would (probably) close off challenges in the domestic courts", though it would be difficult to get through the Lords. And it would not prevent rulings by the ECHR, but he reads Sunak's language as an indication that he would defy them. He seems doubtful that any of this will actually happen, given the imminence of an election.
I think it is something to be proud of that we live in a country where people are judged not by the colour of their skin but the content of their character, as MLK put it. I think Yousef is Yousless for a whole range of reasons but his racial background is quite irrelevant and never seems to get a mention, except when his wife's family were at risk in Gaza when he got pretty universal sympathy. I think its great we live in a country like that and we don't often give ourselves enough credit for it.
i agree, heartily, but this is where you ignore Wokeness at your peril
Woke is ALL about judging people by the color of their skin. It is obsessed with race and colour, to a pathological degree. If you are white you are intrinsically evil and sinful and racist and there is nothing you can do about it, you are privileged and must forever apologize (but you can never apologize enough), and if you are black you are ALWAYS oppressed and exploited and the descendant of slaves even if you are a billionaire and don’t even notice race, thus you are infantilised, insultingly
That is one reason Wokeness is SO insidious and poisonous. it pains me that bright people like you cannot see the danger of this
It's also, at heart, racist. It believes, that given the same opportunities, and all else being equal, black kids will be outperformed by their white counterparts. I think this is unscientific rubbish, and means that the genuine reasons that some immigrant communities get left behind are not solved.
My understanding is that it literally disagrees with that, and just argues that the first bit (same opportunities) are literally what isn't provided, hence the unequal outcomes.
If the remnants of previous more obviously unequal societal structures are not the causes of the still unequal societal structures of today - what are the causes?
Well at the risk of misunderstanding the question - apologies if so - let's take, for example, the underrepresentation of non-white people in the top echelons of FTSE 250 companies. (I don't know if this is in fact the case, but it doesn't seem unreasonable to think that it might be. Let's assume it is for the purposes of this argument.) My contention is that this stems from the very low numbers of non-white people in the classes of society - for shorthand, let's say the private schools, though it's wider than that - of 30 years ago. My theory is that if you look at the ethnic make up of FTSE 250 leadership, and look at the ethnic make up of the class from which those people are drawn AS IT WAS 30 YEARS AGOm it would match pretty closely.
i.e. there is no racial disparity, there is i) a class disparity, and ii) a temporal lag - since successful people don't simply arrive at 45 years old as a chief executive but are hewn into that role over a period of 30 years.
That's my contention, anyway.
I would say I broadly agree, but instead of saying that there is no racial disparity, only class disparity, I would say that there are multiple variables that include race and class (gender, for example) that impacts disparity, and where these things intersect those disparities are greater. I would also say that in many countries, including the UK, race and class are almost intrinsically linked - with a long history of people of certain races not having access to the middle and upper classes in part due to race.
I'm not sure I agree that people of certain classes nowadays don't have access to certain classes due to race. It's more that most non-white people have arrived in the country with very little, and therefore start out in the same class as white people with very little. It takes generations to overcome that. You are no more or less likely to become CEO of ICI as the son of an immigrant from Jamaica as you would be as the son of a penniless labourer from rural Norfolk. Immigrants tend not to arrive owning half of Northamptonshire and being related to the queen. And so are less prominent in the most powerful echelons of society.
I get the impression the Cameroonists will be much more at home in the LDs in the future.
Or a few of them like Nick Boles have already defected to Starmer Labour.
However the current Tory top tier of Sunak, Hunt and Cameron is as Cameroon as the Tories will get for at least the next decade, if they lose the next election the ERG will take revenge and the shift to the right in the party will truly begin
“Scottish Labour deputy leader said parents of teenagers would understand the scenario.”
Ummm… no. If you have a work device you shouldn’t be letting your kids on it. Buy a personal device and let them use that.
Although if the article I read is right, the kids didn’t use the device but used it as a hotspot to access the internet via their own devices.
It’s the sort of sneaky thing I can imagine my own kids doing and, if it wasn’t for my device being utterly locked down regardless, I wouldn’t necessarily think to disable that function.
But the lying when caught…/ nah.
They wouldn't be able to use the hot-spot without having the password for the iPad to turn on the WiFi hot-spot, or, if it was already turned on, the password to access the hot-spot. On a government device. It's wrong on so many levels:
Not changing the sim when instructed to Allowing someone else to access your device, or leaving it unattended where it could be accessed by someone else Not impressing on your family, especially your kids, that this is not an OK thing to do and a potentially sackable scenario Giving family members the password for the device and/or the password for the hot-spot Being oblivious to the unlawful access (is this credible?) Being incuurious about how the bill had been run up before putting in the expenses claim (again, is this credible?) Lying about it to your fellow party members, and Scottish parliament.
The more that comes out, the worse it gets.
It makes it seem like a more straightforward case of fraud by avoiding using data on his own account.
It's pure stupidity because there's absolutely no need to run up such exhorbitant roaming bills these days with fairly ubiquitous public wifi and plenty of data plans with affordable, capped roaming.
I think it is something to be proud of that we live in a country where people are judged not by the colour of their skin but the content of their character, as MLK put it. I think Yousef is Yousless for a whole range of reasons but his racial background is quite irrelevant and never seems to get a mention, except when his wife's family were at risk in Gaza when he got pretty universal sympathy. I think its great we live in a country like that and we don't often give ourselves enough credit for it.
i agree, heartily, but this is where you ignore Wokeness at your peril
Woke is ALL about judging people by the color of their skin. It is obsessed with race and colour, to a pathological degree. If you are white you are intrinsically evil and sinful and racist and there is nothing you can do about it, you are privileged and must forever apologize (but you can never apologize enough), and if you are black you are ALWAYS oppressed and exploited and the descendant of slaves even if you are a billionaire and don’t even notice race, thus you are infantilised, insultingly
That is one reason Wokeness is SO insidious and poisonous. it pains me that bright people like you cannot see the danger of this
That is how I always understood Wokeness. But it seems to have expanded in meaning massively so that now it has become meaningless.
No, Woke exists and we all know it
The best comparison is the term “Fascism”. It’s notoriously hard to define fascism in a couple of sentences - even Mussolini struggled! - but we all know what it is. Hitler’s Germany, Franco’s Spain, Benito’s Italy. I’d add iran under the ayatollahs and Gaza under Hamas, and several other Islamic examples. Islamofascism is real. Imperial Japan was fascist, too
But in the meantime lefties have expanded fascism to mean “everything I don’t like”, perhaps unhelpfully, but that doesn’t mean fascism does not exist. It does, Likewise Wokeness. It is a nebulous but powerful ideology and it is absolutely obsessed with racial and sexual identity, definitely including skin colour
Woke (your definition) doesn't by itself explain how the world works, it just provides insights into it, some of them quite useful. It's like most socioeconomic type theories in this respect. You shouldn't swallow it whole or get so mad at it that your face explodes.
Oh, god, Michael Matheson has just shoved his kids under a bus...
Contemptible. And frankly raises far more questions than it answers, such as why the hell did you ever think that was something you could charge to the tax payer and why did you lie about it being constituency work?
So his kids had access to his constituency work?
Shocking.
Many more WFH scandals to come around kids' and spouses' access to confidential information imo.
Mind you, round about the turn of the century, it was common to overhear confidential information while commuting. Doctors, lawyers and social workers would openly discuss cases on mobile phones as if surrounded by a cone of silence.
Oh, the British Airways business class lounge at Heathrow would have been amazing for any potential insider trader. One would just need to wander round with ones ears open to hear people hard at work on acquisitions.
Is that technically insider trading? I'm not sure overheard information from strangers counts, both because an airport lounge is a public setting (even if it is restricted to ticket holders) and there's not an obligation on me not to disclose information that I received simply by standing within earshot of an indiscreet stranger. Not totally sure on this and it may differ by country.
I believe that if you traded off that information or passed it on to others then that would constitute insider trading. As long as it is material nonpublic information then you cannot trade off it. If you become aware of any such information you should inform your compliance team immediately. I guess if it's just a stranger saying something and you have no idea if it is correct then you could argue the information isn't material. But that would be harder to argue of you trade off it. Yes, I have done a lot of training on this stuff.
I think it is something to be proud of that we live in a country where people are judged not by the colour of their skin but the content of their character, as MLK put it. I think Yousef is Yousless for a whole range of reasons but his racial background is quite irrelevant and never seems to get a mention, except when his wife's family were at risk in Gaza when he got pretty universal sympathy. I think its great we live in a country like that and we don't often give ourselves enough credit for it.
i agree, heartily, but this is where you ignore Wokeness at your peril
Woke is ALL about judging people by the color of their skin. It is obsessed with race and colour, to a pathological degree. If you are white you are intrinsically evil and sinful and racist and there is nothing you can do about it, you are privileged and must forever apologize (but you can never apologize enough), and if you are black you are ALWAYS oppressed and exploited and the descendant of slaves even if you are a billionaire and don’t even notice race, thus you are infantilised, insultingly
That is one reason Wokeness is SO insidious and poisonous. it pains me that bright people like you cannot see the danger of this
It's also, at heart, racist. It believes, that given the same opportunities, and all else being equal, black kids will be outperformed by their white counterparts. I think this is unscientific rubbish, and means that the genuine reasons that some immigrant communities get left behind are not solved.
My understanding is that it literally disagrees with that, and just argues that the first bit (same opportunities) are literally what isn't provided, hence the unequal outcomes.
If the remnants of previous more obviously unequal societal structures are not the causes of the still unequal societal structures of today - what are the causes?
Well at the risk of misunderstanding the question - apologies if so - let's take, for example, the underrepresentation of non-white people in the top echelons of FTSE 250 companies. (I don't know if this is in fact the case, but it doesn't seem unreasonable to think that it might be. Let's assume it is for the purposes of this argument.) My contention is that this stems from the very low numbers of non-white people in the classes of society - for shorthand, let's say the private schools, though it's wider than that - of 30 years ago. My theory is that if you look at the ethnic make up of FTSE 250 leadership, and look at the ethnic make up of the class from which those people are drawn AS IT WAS 30 YEARS AGOm it would match pretty closely.
i.e. there is no racial disparity, there is i) a class disparity, and ii) a temporal lag - since successful people don't simply arrive at 45 years old as a chief executive but are hewn into that role over a period of 30 years.
That's my contention, anyway.
I would say I broadly agree, but instead of saying that there is no racial disparity, only class disparity, I would say that there are multiple variables that include race and class (gender, for example) that impacts disparity, and where these things intersect those disparities are greater. I would also say that in many countries, including the UK, race and class are almost intrinsically linked - with a long history of people of certain races not having access to the middle and upper classes in part due to race.
I'm not sure I agree that people of certain classes nowadays don't have access to certain classes due to race. It's more that most non-white people have arrived in the country with very little, and therefore start out in the same class as white people with very little. It takes generations to overcome that. You are no more or less likely to become CEO of ICI as the son of an immigrant from Jamaica as you would be as the son of a penniless labourer from rural Norfolk. Immigrants tend not to arrive owning half of Northamptonshire and being related to the queen. And so are less prominent in the most powerful echelons of society.
Tower Hamlets students now marching to @rushanaraali’s office after she shamefully refused to vote for a ceasefire last night. #SchoolStrikeForPalestine #FreePalestine 🇵🇸 #CeasefireNOW Tower Hamlets, who would have thought it?
One obvious conclusion: a parallel society is in operation in East London, openly defying the laws & norms that bind the rest of us. Children being given time off to attend a protest could not happen without the assent of headteachers, teachers, parents, & the local bureaucracy.
I think it is something to be proud of that we live in a country where people are judged not by the colour of their skin but the content of their character, as MLK put it. I think Yousef is Yousless for a whole range of reasons but his racial background is quite irrelevant and never seems to get a mention, except when his wife's family were at risk in Gaza when he got pretty universal sympathy. I think its great we live in a country like that and we don't often give ourselves enough credit for it.
i agree, heartily, but this is where you ignore Wokeness at your peril
Woke is ALL about judging people by the color of their skin..
Is it ? On the contrary, it's a nebulous term which covers a very wide range of beliefs, IMO.
It's rather that you (or the strain of right wing thought you've currently adopted) are determined to label anyone with vaguely liberal beliefs as obsessed by the colour of people's skin.
Jesus. Have you missed all the seminal texts of Woke Racial Theory? Here’s a reading list, These really are THE texts os Wokeness where it collides with race
WHY I’M NO LONGER TALKING TO WHITE PEOPLE ABOUT RACE
You are a strange PB character. Never that exciting, but occasionally somewhat sage, but I wonder if the sageness is merely a false impression created by your having a decent education and being quite polite, and actually you are dumb as a bloody breezeblock
Of course I'm aware if that nonsense, you pill.
Your IQ is clearly too low to understand my point - or indeed to challenge the new right tropes you've swallowed wholesale.
As I said, you are never exciting (as in witty or diverting or unexpectedly fun). You really didn’t have to prove my point in your very next unexciting and predictable comment. But there we are
Well that's a relief. For a moment there, I was worried that I might exist to entertain you.
“Scottish Labour deputy leader said parents of teenagers would understand the scenario.”
Ummm… no. If you have a work device you shouldn’t be letting your kids on it. Buy a personal device and let them use that.
Although if the article I read is right, the kids didn’t use the device but used it as a hotspot to access the internet via their own devices.
It’s the sort of sneaky thing I can imagine my own kids doing and, if it wasn’t for my device being utterly locked down regardless, I wouldn’t necessarily think to disable that function.
But the lying when caught…/ nah.
Don’t you need a password to use a device as a hotspot?
Not always. Some railway stations and Costa stores don't.
I think you may be misunderstanding free WiFi and hot spotting from an Internet connected device. The owner/user of the device always has to "allow " their device to be a WiFi hot-spot, whether or not via a password. So the device owner will have to give a password to the person streaming via hot spotting, or possibly allow open access (which would be a security risk to the owner). While I can see there might possibly be scenarios where the first option might be permissible on a government issued device (eg to allow a gov t colleague to hot spot, but would probably need to change the password afterwards) I don't think open hot-spot access would ever be permissible for a govt device.
I get the impression the Cameroonists will be much more at home in the LDs in the future.
Or a few of them like Nick Boles have already defected to Starmer Labour.
However the current Tory top tier of Sunak, Hunt and Cameron is as Cameroon as the Tories will get for at least the next decade, if they lose the next election the ERG will take revenge and the shift to the right in the party will truly begin
“Scottish Labour deputy leader said parents of teenagers would understand the scenario.”
Ummm… no. If you have a work device you shouldn’t be letting your kids on it. Buy a personal device and let them use that.
Although if the article I read is right, the kids didn’t use the device but used it as a hotspot to access the internet via their own devices.
It’s the sort of sneaky thing I can imagine my own kids doing and, if it wasn’t for my device being utterly locked down regardless, I wouldn’t necessarily think to disable that function.
But the lying when caught…/ nah.
They wouldn't be able to use the hot-spot without having the password for the iPad to turn on the WiFi hot-spot, or, if it was already turned on, the password to access the hot-spot. On a government device. It's wrong on so many levels:
Not changing the sim when instructed to Allowing someone else to access your device, or leaving it unattended where it could be accessed by someone else Not impressing on your family, especially your kids, that this is not an OK thing to do and a potentially sackable scenario Giving family members the password for the device and/or the password for the hot-spot Being oblivious to the unlawful access (is this credible?) Being incuurious about how the bill had been run up before putting in the expenses claim (again, is this credible?) Lying about it to your fellow party members, and Scottish parliament.
The more that comes out, the worse it gets.
It makes it seem like a more straightforward case of fraud by avoiding using data on his own account.
It's pure stupidity because there's absolutely no need to run up such exhorbitant roaming bills these days with fairly ubiquitous public wifi and plenty of data plans with affordable, capped roaming.
Yeah fraud that came with unacceptable security risks
I think it is something to be proud of that we live in a country where people are judged not by the colour of their skin but the content of their character, as MLK put it. I think Yousef is Yousless for a whole range of reasons but his racial background is quite irrelevant and never seems to get a mention, except when his wife's family were at risk in Gaza when he got pretty universal sympathy. I think its great we live in a country like that and we don't often give ourselves enough credit for it.
i agree, heartily, but this is where you ignore Wokeness at your peril
Woke is ALL about judging people by the color of their skin. It is obsessed with race and colour, to a pathological degree. If you are white you are intrinsically evil and sinful and racist and there is nothing you can do about it, you are privileged and must forever apologize (but you can never apologize enough), and if you are black you are ALWAYS oppressed and exploited and the descendant of slaves even if you are a billionaire and don’t even notice race, thus you are infantilised, insultingly
That is one reason Wokeness is SO insidious and poisonous. it pains me that bright people like you cannot see the danger of this
That is how I always understood Wokeness. But it seems to have expanded in meaning massively so that now it has become meaningless.
No, Woke exists and we all know it
The best comparison is the term “Fascism”. It’s notoriously hard to define fascism in a couple of sentences - even Mussolini struggled! - but we all know what it is. Hitler’s Germany, Franco’s Spain, Benito’s Italy. I’d add iran under the ayatollahs and Gaza under Hamas, and several other Islamic examples. Islamofascism is real. Imperial Japan was fascist, too
But in the meantime lefties have expanded fascism to mean “everything I don’t like”, perhaps unhelpfully, but that doesn’t mean fascism does not exist. It does, Likewise Wokeness. It is a nebulous but powerful ideology and it is absolutely obsessed with racial and sexual identity, definitely including skin colour
Woke (your definition) doesn't by itself explain how the world works, it just provides insights into it, some of them quite useful. It's like most socioeconomic type theories in this respect. You shouldn't swallow it whole or get so mad at it that your face explodes.
Tower Hamlets students now marching to @rushanaraali’s office after she shamefully refused to vote for a ceasefire last night. #SchoolStrikeForPalestine #FreePalestine 🇵🇸 #CeasefireNOW Tower Hamlets, who would have thought it?
One obvious conclusion: a parallel society is in operation in East London, openly defying the laws & norms that bind the rest of us. Children being given time off to attend a protest could not happen without the assent of headteachers, teachers, parents, & the local bureaucracy.
How do you know they have been given time off? It's not unheard of for children to do things that they have not been given permission to do. Maybe you've never met a child.
Tower Hamlets students now marching to @rushanaraali’s office after she shamefully refused to vote for a ceasefire last night. #SchoolStrikeForPalestine #FreePalestine 🇵🇸 #CeasefireNOW Tower Hamlets, who would have thought it?
One obvious conclusion: a parallel society is in operation in East London, openly defying the laws & norms that bind the rest of us. Children being given time off to attend a protest could not happen without the assent of headteachers, teachers, parents, & the local bureaucracy.
How do you know they have been given time off? It's not unheard of for children to do things that they have not been given permission to do. Maybe you've never met a child.
I think it is something to be proud of that we live in a country where people are judged not by the colour of their skin but the content of their character, as MLK put it. I think Yousef is Yousless for a whole range of reasons but his racial background is quite irrelevant and never seems to get a mention, except when his wife's family were at risk in Gaza when he got pretty universal sympathy. I think its great we live in a country like that and we don't often give ourselves enough credit for it.
i agree, heartily, but this is where you ignore Wokeness at your peril
Woke is ALL about judging people by the color of their skin. It is obsessed with race and colour, to a pathological degree. If you are white you are intrinsically evil and sinful and racist and there is nothing you can do about it, you are privileged and must forever apologize (but you can never apologize enough), and if you are black you are ALWAYS oppressed and exploited and the descendant of slaves even if you are a billionaire and don’t even notice race, thus you are infantilised, insultingly
That is one reason Wokeness is SO insidious and poisonous. it pains me that bright people like you cannot see the danger of this
That is how I always understood Wokeness. But it seems to have expanded in meaning massively so that now it has become meaningless.
No, Woke exists and we all know it
The best comparison is the term “Fascism”. It’s notoriously hard to define fascism in a couple of sentences - even Mussolini struggled! - but we all know what it is. Hitler’s Germany, Franco’s Spain, Benito’s Italy. I’d add iran under the ayatollahs and Gaza under Hamas, and several other Islamic examples. Islamofascism is real. Imperial Japan was fascist, too
I think all of these so called 'Fascist' regimes are just what they are individually. Eg. Imperial Japan was just Japanese history working itself out. I don't think it makes any sense to connect it with anything in the west.
I kinda agree with scholars that talk about fascism as a set of syncretic belief structures, not necessarily specific beliefs themselves (like anti-Semitism isn't inherent to fascism, but an enemy "other" is). That's why I tend towards going through Umberto Eco's list and being like "how many of these work for this political movement?"
Could you send me an email explaining all that. You've entirely lost me.
Sticking with anti-Semitism. Fascism doesn’t have to be anti-Semitic but it has to have a group that perform the purpose that Nazis used Jews for - a group of people who are a threat, an out group that they paint as both weak and strong, etc. Spanish and Italian fascism, whilst a still anti-Semitic, were much more concerned about the enemy within (the leftist) and people from the colonies (Ethiopians) then Jewish people. So anti-Semitism itself isn’t inherent to fascism, but an out group that performs that societal function for the fascist cause, is. Hence why you could still argue Japan, ancient Rome, or even ancient Sparta were fascistic, despite different cultural and historical contexts.
Tower Hamlets students now marching to @rushanaraali’s office after she shamefully refused to vote for a ceasefire last night. #SchoolStrikeForPalestine #FreePalestine 🇵🇸 #CeasefireNOW Tower Hamlets, who would have thought it?
One obvious conclusion: a parallel society is in operation in East London, openly defying the laws & norms that bind the rest of us. Children being given time off to attend a protest could not happen without the assent of headteachers, teachers, parents, & the local bureaucracy.
I think it is something to be proud of that we live in a country where people are judged not by the colour of their skin but the content of their character, as MLK put it. I think Yousef is Yousless for a whole range of reasons but his racial background is quite irrelevant and never seems to get a mention, except when his wife's family were at risk in Gaza when he got pretty universal sympathy. I think its great we live in a country like that and we don't often give ourselves enough credit for it.
i agree, heartily, but this is where you ignore Wokeness at your peril
Woke is ALL about judging people by the color of their skin. It is obsessed with race and colour, to a pathological degree. If you are white you are intrinsically evil and sinful and racist and there is nothing you can do about it, you are privileged and must forever apologize (but you can never apologize enough), and if you are black you are ALWAYS oppressed and exploited and the descendant of slaves even if you are a billionaire and don’t even notice race, thus you are infantilised, insultingly
That is one reason Wokeness is SO insidious and poisonous. it pains me that bright people like you cannot see the danger of this
That is how I always understood Wokeness. But it seems to have expanded in meaning massively so that now it has become meaningless.
No, Woke exists and we all know it
The best comparison is the term “Fascism”. It’s notoriously hard to define fascism in a couple of sentences - even Mussolini struggled! - but we all know what it is. Hitler’s Germany, Franco’s Spain, Benito’s Italy. I’d add iran under the ayatollahs and Gaza under Hamas, and several other Islamic examples. Islamofascism is real. Imperial Japan was fascist, too
But in the meantime lefties have expanded fascism to mean “everything I don’t like”, perhaps unhelpfully, but that doesn’t mean fascism does not exist. It does, Likewise Wokeness. It is a nebulous but powerful ideology and it is absolutely obsessed with racial and sexual identity, definitely including skin colour
Woke (your definition) doesn't by itself explain how the world works, it just provides insights into it, some of them quite useful. It's like most socioeconomic type theories in this respect. You shouldn't swallow it whole or get so mad at it that your face explodes.
Woke is an anglosphere thing. Not a world thing.
Yep, like many trains of thought (and indeed global credit crunches) it started in America.
“Scottish Labour deputy leader said parents of teenagers would understand the scenario.”
Ummm… no. If you have a work device you shouldn’t be letting your kids on it. Buy a personal device and let them use that.
Although if the article I read is right, the kids didn’t use the device but used it as a hotspot to access the internet via their own devices.
It’s the sort of sneaky thing I can imagine my own kids doing and, if it wasn’t for my device being utterly locked down regardless, I wouldn’t necessarily think to disable that function.
But the lying when caught…/ nah.
They wouldn't be able to use the hot-spot without having the password for the iPad to turn on the WiFi hot-spot, or, if it was already turned on, the password to access the hot-spot. On a government device. It's wrong on so many levels:
Not changing the sim when instructed to Allowing someone else to access your device, or leaving it unattended where it could be accessed by someone else Not impressing on your family, especially your kids, that this is not an OK thing to do and a potentially sackable scenario Giving family members the password for the device and/or the password for the hot-spot Being oblivious to the unlawful access (is this credible?) Being incuurious about how the bill had been run up before putting in the expenses claim (again, is this credible?) Lying about it to your fellow party members, and Scottish parliament.
The more that comes out, the worse it gets.
It makes it seem like a more straightforward case of fraud by avoiding using data on his own account.
It's pure stupidity because there's absolutely no need to run up such exhorbitant roaming bills these days with fairly ubiquitous public wifi and plenty of data plans with affordable, capped roaming.
Morocco is not listed as a roaming destination, even for most "worldwide" roaming plans. And even on demand, where 89 countries are available for £5/day, my network does not list morocco:
Stop The War info/template letter for parents to send to their children’s school saying they won’t be in today as they’re marching for Palestine
“ How to organise a school strike:
Gather a group of dedicated parents/teenagers in your area and create a WhatsApp group. Fill out this Google form and we will try and put you in touch with others in your area. Pick a central location in your area to have a rally on Friday morning. Create an announcements WhatsApp group with admin-only posting rights. Add other organisers as admins, and use a join link to share widely so others in the area can join it. Set the group description (template below) with the details of your strike, and use this group to let people know about the details of the strike and to share the resources below. Fill out this Google form to let us know about your school strike so we can help you with a graphic & poster, advertise it nationally including making a Facebook event for you, put you in touch with local activists and help/advise with anything else.”
Tower Hamlets students now marching to @rushanaraali’s office after she shamefully refused to vote for a ceasefire last night. #SchoolStrikeForPalestine #FreePalestine 🇵🇸 #CeasefireNOW Tower Hamlets, who would have thought it?
One obvious conclusion: a parallel society is in operation in East London, openly defying the laws & norms that bind the rest of us. Children being given time off to attend a protest could not happen without the assent of headteachers, teachers, parents, & the local bureaucracy.
How do you know they have been given time off? It's not unheard of for children to do things that they have not been given permission to do. Maybe you've never met a child.
It’s a tweet written by someone else numb nuts
Oh sorry I assumed you agreed with it, because you shared it. I didn't realise you just posted random tweets.
I think it is something to be proud of that we live in a country where people are judged not by the colour of their skin but the content of their character, as MLK put it. I think Yousef is Yousless for a whole range of reasons but his racial background is quite irrelevant and never seems to get a mention, except when his wife's family were at risk in Gaza when he got pretty universal sympathy. I think its great we live in a country like that and we don't often give ourselves enough credit for it.
i agree, heartily, but this is where you ignore Wokeness at your peril
Woke is ALL about judging people by the color of their skin. It is obsessed with race and colour, to a pathological degree. If you are white you are intrinsically evil and sinful and racist and there is nothing you can do about it, you are privileged and must forever apologize (but you can never apologize enough), and if you are black you are ALWAYS oppressed and exploited and the descendant of slaves even if you are a billionaire and don’t even notice race, thus you are infantilised, insultingly
That is one reason Wokeness is SO insidious and poisonous. it pains me that bright people like you cannot see the danger of this
That is how I always understood Wokeness. But it seems to have expanded in meaning massively so that now it has become meaningless.
No, Woke exists and we all know it
The best comparison is the term “Fascism”. It’s notoriously hard to define fascism in a couple of sentences - even Mussolini struggled! - but we all know what it is. Hitler’s Germany, Franco’s Spain, Benito’s Italy. I’d add iran under the ayatollahs and Gaza under Hamas, and several other Islamic examples. Islamofascism is real. Imperial Japan was fascist, too
I think all of these so called 'Fascist' regimes are just what they are individually. Eg. Imperial Japan was just Japanese history working itself out. I don't think it makes any sense to connect it with anything in the west.
I kinda agree with scholars that talk about fascism as a set of syncretic belief structures, not necessarily specific beliefs themselves (like anti-Semitism isn't inherent to fascism, but an enemy "other" is). That's why I tend towards going through Umberto Eco's list and being like "how many of these work for this political movement?"
Could you send me an email explaining all that. You've entirely lost me.
Sticking with anti-Semitism. Fascism doesn’t have to be anti-Semitic but it has to have a group that perform the purpose that Nazis used Jews for - a group of people who are a threat, an out group that they paint as both weak and strong, etc. Spanish and Italian fascism, whilst a still anti-Semitic, were much more concerned about the enemy within (the leftist) and people from the colonies (Ethiopians) then Jewish people. So anti-Semitism itself isn’t inherent to fascism, but an out group that performs that societal function for the fascist cause, is. Hence why you could still argue Japan, ancient Rome, or even ancient Sparta were fascistic, despite different cultural and historical contexts.
Trump/Maga are interviewing the 'Radical Woke Leftist Vermin' for the role. And it looks like they'll be hired.
Tower Hamlets students now marching to @rushanaraali’s office after she shamefully refused to vote for a ceasefire last night. #SchoolStrikeForPalestine #FreePalestine 🇵🇸 #CeasefireNOW Tower Hamlets, who would have thought it?
One obvious conclusion: a parallel society is in operation in East London, openly defying the laws & norms that bind the rest of us. Children being given time off to attend a protest could not happen without the assent of headteachers, teachers, parents, & the local bureaucracy.
How do you know they have been given time off? It's not unheard of for children to do things that they have not been given permission to do. Maybe you've never met a child.
It’s a tweet written by someone else numb nuts
In some ways, Tower Hamlets is a parallel society. A majority of councillors belong to a religious-based political party, similar to the Protestant and Catholic parties that used to return councillors in Liverpool, pre WW2. And, electoral malpractice is widespread, in a way that would not be tolerated elsewhere.
I think it is something to be proud of that we live in a country where people are judged not by the colour of their skin but the content of their character, as MLK put it. I think Yousef is Yousless for a whole range of reasons but his racial background is quite irrelevant and never seems to get a mention, except when his wife's family were at risk in Gaza when he got pretty universal sympathy. I think its great we live in a country like that and we don't often give ourselves enough credit for it.
i agree, heartily, but this is where you ignore Wokeness at your peril
Woke is ALL about judging people by the color of their skin. It is obsessed with race and colour, to a pathological degree. If you are white you are intrinsically evil and sinful and racist and there is nothing you can do about it, you are privileged and must forever apologize (but you can never apologize enough), and if you are black you are ALWAYS oppressed and exploited and the descendant of slaves even if you are a billionaire and don’t even notice race, thus you are infantilised, insultingly
That is one reason Wokeness is SO insidious and poisonous. it pains me that bright people like you cannot see the danger of this
It's also, at heart, racist. It believes, that given the same opportunities, and all else being equal, black kids will be outperformed by their white counterparts. I think this is unscientific rubbish, and means that the genuine reasons that some immigrant communities get left behind are not solved.
My understanding is that it literally disagrees with that, and just argues that the first bit (same opportunities) are literally what isn't provided, hence the unequal outcomes.
If the remnants of previous more obviously unequal societal structures are not the causes of the still unequal societal structures of today - what are the causes?
Well at the risk of misunderstanding the question - apologies if so - let's take, for example, the underrepresentation of non-white people in the top echelons of FTSE 250 companies. (I don't know if this is in fact the case, but it doesn't seem unreasonable to think that it might be. Let's assume it is for the purposes of this argument.) My contention is that this stems from the very low numbers of non-white people in the classes of society - for shorthand, let's say the private schools, though it's wider than that - of 30 years ago. My theory is that if you look at the ethnic make up of FTSE 250 leadership, and look at the ethnic make up of the class from which those people are drawn AS IT WAS 30 YEARS AGOm it would match pretty closely.
i.e. there is no racial disparity, there is i) a class disparity, and ii) a temporal lag - since successful people don't simply arrive at 45 years old as a chief executive but are hewn into that role over a period of 30 years.
That's my contention, anyway.
I would say I broadly agree, but instead of saying that there is no racial disparity, only class disparity, I would say that there are multiple variables that include race and class (gender, for example) that impacts disparity, and where these things intersect those disparities are greater. I would also say that in many countries, including the UK, race and class are almost intrinsically linked - with a long history of people of certain races not having access to the middle and upper classes in part due to race.
I'm not sure I agree that people of certain classes nowadays don't have access to certain classes due to race. It's more that most non-white people have arrived in the country with very little, and therefore start out in the same class as white people with very little. It takes generations to overcome that. You are no more or less likely to become CEO of ICI as the son of an immigrant from Jamaica as you would be as the son of a penniless labourer from rural Norfolk. Immigrants tend not to arrive owning half of Northamptonshire and being related to the queen. And so are less prominent in the most powerful echelons of society.
I think it is something to be proud of that we live in a country where people are judged not by the colour of their skin but the content of their character, as MLK put it. I think Yousef is Yousless for a whole range of reasons but his racial background is quite irrelevant and never seems to get a mention, except when his wife's family were at risk in Gaza when he got pretty universal sympathy. I think its great we live in a country like that and we don't often give ourselves enough credit for it.
i agree, heartily, but this is where you ignore Wokeness at your peril
Woke is ALL about judging people by the color of their skin. It is obsessed with race and colour, to a pathological degree. If you are white you are intrinsically evil and sinful and racist and there is nothing you can do about it, you are privileged and must forever apologize (but you can never apologize enough), and if you are black you are ALWAYS oppressed and exploited and the descendant of slaves even if you are a billionaire and don’t even notice race, thus you are infantilised, insultingly
That is one reason Wokeness is SO insidious and poisonous. it pains me that bright people like you cannot see the danger of this
That is how I always understood Wokeness. But it seems to have expanded in meaning massively so that now it has become meaningless.
No, Woke exists and we all know it
The best comparison is the term “Fascism”. It’s notoriously hard to define fascism in a couple of sentences - even Mussolini struggled! - but we all know what it is. Hitler’s Germany, Franco’s Spain, Benito’s Italy. I’d add iran under the ayatollahs and Gaza under Hamas, and several other Islamic examples. Islamofascism is real. Imperial Japan was fascist, too
I think all of these so called 'Fascist' regimes are just what they are individually. Eg. Imperial Japan was just Japanese history working itself out. I don't think it makes any sense to connect it with anything in the west.
I kinda agree with scholars that talk about fascism as a set of syncretic belief structures, not necessarily specific beliefs themselves (like anti-Semitism isn't inherent to fascism, but an enemy "other" is). That's why I tend towards going through Umberto Eco's list and being like "how many of these work for this political movement?"
Could you send me an email explaining all that. You've entirely lost me.
Sticking with anti-Semitism. Fascism doesn’t have to be anti-Semitic but it has to have a group that perform the purpose that Nazis used Jews for - a group of people who are a threat, an out group that they paint as both weak and strong, etc. Spanish and Italian fascism, whilst a still anti-Semitic, were much more concerned about the enemy within (the leftist) and people from the colonies (Ethiopians) then Jewish people. So anti-Semitism itself isn’t inherent to fascism, but an out group that performs that societal function for the fascist cause, is. Hence why you could still argue Japan, ancient Rome, or even ancient Sparta were fascistic, despite different cultural and historical contexts.
It's interesting how you ignore the rich vein and history of anti-Semitism within Communism; something many far leftists continue to this day.
Tower Hamlets students now marching to @rushanaraali’s office after she shamefully refused to vote for a ceasefire last night. #SchoolStrikeForPalestine #FreePalestine 🇵🇸 #CeasefireNOW Tower Hamlets, who would have thought it?
One obvious conclusion: a parallel society is in operation in East London, openly defying the laws & norms that bind the rest of us. Children being given time off to attend a protest could not happen without the assent of headteachers, teachers, parents, & the local bureaucracy.
How do you know they have been given time off? It's not unheard of for children to do things that they have not been given permission to do. Maybe you've never met a child.
It’s a tweet written by someone else numb nuts
Oh sorry I assumed you agreed with it, because you shared it. I didn't realise you just posted random tweets.
Oh, god, Michael Matheson has just shoved his kids under a bus...
Contemptible. And frankly raises far more questions than it answers, such as why the hell did you ever think that was something you could charge to the tax payer and why did you lie about it being constituency work?
So his kids had access to his constituency work?
Shocking.
I hope they were appropriately paid for their work...
I get the impression the Cameroonists will be much more at home in the LDs in the future.
Or a few of them like Nick Boles have already defected to Starmer Labour.
However the current Tory top tier of Sunak, Hunt and Cameron is as Cameroon as the Tories will get for at least the next decade, if they lose the next election the ERG will take revenge and the shift to the right in the party will truly begin
The number of PB Tories from 2010 who are not PB Tories now - and not because they've left PB - is striking.
I think it is something to be proud of that we live in a country where people are judged not by the colour of their skin but the content of their character, as MLK put it. I think Yousef is Yousless for a whole range of reasons but his racial background is quite irrelevant and never seems to get a mention, except when his wife's family were at risk in Gaza when he got pretty universal sympathy. I think its great we live in a country like that and we don't often give ourselves enough credit for it.
i agree, heartily, but this is where you ignore Wokeness at your peril
Woke is ALL about judging people by the color of their skin. It is obsessed with race and colour, to a pathological degree. If you are white you are intrinsically evil and sinful and racist and there is nothing you can do about it, you are privileged and must forever apologize (but you can never apologize enough), and if you are black you are ALWAYS oppressed and exploited and the descendant of slaves even if you are a billionaire and don’t even notice race, thus you are infantilised, insultingly
That is one reason Wokeness is SO insidious and poisonous. it pains me that bright people like you cannot see the danger of this
That is how I always understood Wokeness. But it seems to have expanded in meaning massively so that now it has become meaningless.
No, Woke exists and we all know it
The best comparison is the term “Fascism”. It’s notoriously hard to define fascism in a couple of sentences - even Mussolini struggled! - but we all know what it is. Hitler’s Germany, Franco’s Spain, Benito’s Italy. I’d add iran under the ayatollahs and Gaza under Hamas, and several other Islamic examples. Islamofascism is real. Imperial Japan was fascist, too
But in the meantime lefties have expanded fascism to mean “everything I don’t like”, perhaps unhelpfully, but that doesn’t mean fascism does not exist. It does, Likewise Wokeness. It is a nebulous but powerful ideology and it is absolutely obsessed with racial and sexual identity, definitely including skin colour
Woke (your definition) doesn't by itself explain how the world works, it just provides insights into it, some of them quite useful. It's like most socioeconomic type theories in this respect. You shouldn't swallow it whole or get so mad at it that your face explodes.
Woke is an anglosphere thing. Not a world thing.
Woke started in the Anglosphere, with distant roots in Marxism and French wankiness (post-structuralism). Its birthplace was mainly American universities but the Brits and Aussies and canucks soon joined in. The Brits took over the whole trans debate and really got that going, the yanks continued with race. Bit like the way we divided the Normandy beaches for invasion
But it has now spread way beyond anglophone academe into all areas of life - and also far beyond the English speaking world. It’s very discernible in Western Europe and even countries like India. And now it is spreading in the universities of Africa, Latin America and so on
Asia seems fairly immune so far. We may all end up desperate to live in China or Singapore
I think it is something to be proud of that we live in a country where people are judged not by the colour of their skin but the content of their character, as MLK put it. I think Yousef is Yousless for a whole range of reasons but his racial background is quite irrelevant and never seems to get a mention, except when his wife's family were at risk in Gaza when he got pretty universal sympathy. I think its great we live in a country like that and we don't often give ourselves enough credit for it.
i agree, heartily, but this is where you ignore Wokeness at your peril
Woke is ALL about judging people by the color of their skin. It is obsessed with race and colour, to a pathological degree. If you are white you are intrinsically evil and sinful and racist and there is nothing you can do about it, you are privileged and must forever apologize (but you can never apologize enough), and if you are black you are ALWAYS oppressed and exploited and the descendant of slaves even if you are a billionaire and don’t even notice race, thus you are infantilised, insultingly
That is one reason Wokeness is SO insidious and poisonous. it pains me that bright people like you cannot see the danger of this
That is how I always understood Wokeness. But it seems to have expanded in meaning massively so that now it has become meaningless.
No, Woke exists and we all know it
The best comparison is the term “Fascism”. It’s notoriously hard to define fascism in a couple of sentences - even Mussolini struggled! - but we all know what it is. Hitler’s Germany, Franco’s Spain, Benito’s Italy. I’d add iran under the ayatollahs and Gaza under Hamas, and several other Islamic examples. Islamofascism is real. Imperial Japan was fascist, too
But in the meantime lefties have expanded fascism to mean “everything I don’t like”, perhaps unhelpfully, but that doesn’t mean fascism does not exist. It does, Likewise Wokeness. It is a nebulous but powerful ideology and it is absolutely obsessed with racial and sexual identity, definitely including skin colour
Woke (your definition) doesn't by itself explain how the world works, it just provides insights into it, some of them quite useful. It's like most socioeconomic type theories in this respect. You shouldn't swallow it whole or get so mad at it that your face explodes.
Woke is an anglosphere thing. Not a world thing.
Yep, like many trains of thought (and indeed global credit crunches) it started in America.
Its one of those amazing things that the UK Left want to import all the shit ideas the americans have and apply them badly in the UK.
Cant you guys just come up with some domestic ideas ?
I think it is something to be proud of that we live in a country where people are judged not by the colour of their skin but the content of their character, as MLK put it. I think Yousef is Yousless for a whole range of reasons but his racial background is quite irrelevant and never seems to get a mention, except when his wife's family were at risk in Gaza when he got pretty universal sympathy. I think its great we live in a country like that and we don't often give ourselves enough credit for it.
i agree, heartily, but this is where you ignore Wokeness at your peril
Woke is ALL about judging people by the color of their skin. It is obsessed with race and colour, to a pathological degree. If you are white you are intrinsically evil and sinful and racist and there is nothing you can do about it, you are privileged and must forever apologize (but you can never apologize enough), and if you are black you are ALWAYS oppressed and exploited and the descendant of slaves even if you are a billionaire and don’t even notice race, thus you are infantilised, insultingly
That is one reason Wokeness is SO insidious and poisonous. it pains me that bright people like you cannot see the danger of this
That is how I always understood Wokeness. But it seems to have expanded in meaning massively so that now it has become meaningless.
No, Woke exists and we all know it
The best comparison is the term “Fascism”. It’s notoriously hard to define fascism in a couple of sentences - even Mussolini struggled! - but we all know what it is. Hitler’s Germany, Franco’s Spain, Benito’s Italy. I’d add iran under the ayatollahs and Gaza under Hamas, and several other Islamic examples. Islamofascism is real. Imperial Japan was fascist, too
I think all of these so called 'Fascist' regimes are just what they are individually. Eg. Imperial Japan was just Japanese history working itself out. I don't think it makes any sense to connect it with anything in the west.
I kinda agree with scholars that talk about fascism as a set of syncretic belief structures, not necessarily specific beliefs themselves (like anti-Semitism isn't inherent to fascism, but an enemy "other" is). That's why I tend towards going through Umberto Eco's list and being like "how many of these work for this political movement?"
Grandson 2 had in his first year of his history degree to write an essay on Fascist Italy. Supposedly a terms work. Sadly I didn’t get to read it; I could have found it interesting. As someone else said “fascist” is too often simply a general term of abuse from anyone on the Left towards anyone on the Right.
I get the impression the Cameroonists will be much more at home in the LDs in the future.
Or a few of them like Nick Boles have already defected to Starmer Labour.
However the current Tory top tier of Sunak, Hunt and Cameron is as Cameroon as the Tories will get for at least the next decade, if they lose the next election the ERG will take revenge and the shift to the right in the party will truly begin
Truly begin? It truly began, past tense, with that buffoonish twat that you still make apologies for who was quite happy to be painted whatever colour any right wing loon wanted to paint him just so long as he achieved his childhood goal of assuming the position of PM; a position that he utterly unsuited to even though his ego (and fools like you) assured him he was
Tower Hamlets students now marching to @rushanaraali’s office after she shamefully refused to vote for a ceasefire last night. #SchoolStrikeForPalestine #FreePalestine 🇵🇸 #CeasefireNOW Tower Hamlets, who would have thought it?
One obvious conclusion: a parallel society is in operation in East London, openly defying the laws & norms that bind the rest of us. Children being given time off to attend a protest could not happen without the assent of headteachers, teachers, parents, & the local bureaucracy.
How do you know they have been given time off? It's not unheard of for children to do things that they have not been given permission to do. Maybe you've never met a child.
It’s a tweet written by someone else numb nuts
In some ways, Tower Hamlets is a parallel society. A majority of councillors belong to a religious-based political party, similar to the Protestant and Catholic parties that used to return councillors in Liverpool, pre WW2. And, electoral malpractice is widespread, in a way that would not be tolerated elsewhere.
100%
My partner worked in a school there before we had kids; one of her jobs was to monitor the pupils internet use as the UN had been in touch to say it was one of likeliest places in Britain to see radicalisation.
Anjem Choudrays kids went there; every stereotype you don’t want to believe is true, is true
FPT: The most important comment on that thread came from DecrepiterJohnL, where he linked to this BBC story: https://www.bbc.com/news/health-67435266 "In a world first, medical regulators in the UK have approved a gene therapy that aims to cure two blood disorders.
The treatment for sickle cell disease and beta thalassemia is the first to be licensed using the gene-editing tool known as Crispr, for which its discoverers were awarded the Nobel prize in 2020.
This is a revolutionary advance for two inherited blood conditions, both triggered by errors in the gene for haemoglobin."
This is enormously important for two reasons. First, it is likely to be of enormous benefit, especially to people in sub-Saharan Africa: "Three-quarters of sickle cell cases occur in Africa. A recent WHO report estimated that around 2% of newborns in Nigeria were affected by sickle cell anaemia, giving a total of 150,000 affected children born every year in Nigeria alone. The carrier frequency ranges between 10 and 40% across equatorial Africa, decreasing to 1–2% on the North African coast and <1% in South Africa.[117] Studies in Africa show a significant decrease in infant mortality rate, ages 2–16 months, because of the sickle cell trait. This happened in areas of predominant malarial cases." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sickle_cell_disease#Epidemiology
Second, it gives us good reason to believe that other genetic diseases can be cured.
“Scottish Labour deputy leader said parents of teenagers would understand the scenario.”
Ummm… no. If you have a work device you shouldn’t be letting your kids on it. Buy a personal device and let them use that.
Although if the article I read is right, the kids didn’t use the device but used it as a hotspot to access the internet via their own devices.
It’s the sort of sneaky thing I can imagine my own kids doing and, if it wasn’t for my device being utterly locked down regardless, I wouldn’t necessarily think to disable that function.
But the lying when caught…/ nah.
Don’t you need a password to use a device as a hotspot?
Not always. Some railway stations and Costa stores don't.
I think you may be misunderstanding free WiFi and hot spotting from an Internet connected device. The owner/user of the device always has to "allow " their device to be a WiFi hot-spot, whether or not via a password. So the device owner will have to give a password to the person streaming via hot spotting, or possibly allow open access (which would be a security risk to the owner). While I can see there might possibly be scenarios where the first option might be permissible on a government issued device (eg to allow a gov t colleague to hot spot, but would probably need to change the password afterwards) I don't think open hot-spot access would ever be permissible for a govt device.
I think it is something to be proud of that we live in a country where people are judged not by the colour of their skin but the content of their character, as MLK put it. I think Yousef is Yousless for a whole range of reasons but his racial background is quite irrelevant and never seems to get a mention, except when his wife's family were at risk in Gaza when he got pretty universal sympathy. I think its great we live in a country like that and we don't often give ourselves enough credit for it.
i agree, heartily, but this is where you ignore Wokeness at your peril
Woke is ALL about judging people by the color of their skin. It is obsessed with race and colour, to a pathological degree. If you are white you are intrinsically evil and sinful and racist and there is nothing you can do about it, you are privileged and must forever apologize (but you can never apologize enough), and if you are black you are ALWAYS oppressed and exploited and the descendant of slaves even if you are a billionaire and don’t even notice race, thus you are infantilised, insultingly
That is one reason Wokeness is SO insidious and poisonous. it pains me that bright people like you cannot see the danger of this
That is how I always understood Wokeness. But it seems to have expanded in meaning massively so that now it has become meaningless.
No, Woke exists and we all know it
The best comparison is the term “Fascism”. It’s notoriously hard to define fascism in a couple of sentences - even Mussolini struggled! - but we all know what it is. Hitler’s Germany, Franco’s Spain, Benito’s Italy. I’d add iran under the ayatollahs and Gaza under Hamas, and several other Islamic examples. Islamofascism is real. Imperial Japan was fascist, too
But in the meantime lefties have expanded fascism to mean “everything I don’t like”, perhaps unhelpfully, but that doesn’t mean fascism does not exist. It does, Likewise Wokeness. It is a nebulous but powerful ideology and it is absolutely obsessed with racial and sexual identity, definitely including skin colour
Woke (your definition) doesn't by itself explain how the world works, it just provides insights into it, some of them quite useful. It's like most socioeconomic type theories in this respect. You shouldn't swallow it whole or get so mad at it that your face explodes.
Woke is an anglosphere thing. Not a world thing.
Woke started in the Anglosphere, with distant roots in Marxism and French wankiness (post-structuralism). Its birthplace was mainly American universities but the Brits and Aussies and canucks soon joined in. The Brits took over the whole trans debate and really got that going, the yanks continued with race. Bit like the way we divided the Normandy beaches for invasion
But it has now spread way beyond anglophone academe into all areas of life - and also far beyond the English speaking world. It’s very discernible in Western Europe and even countries like India. And now it is spreading in the universities of Africa, Latin America and so on
Asia seems fairly immune so far. We may all end up desperate to live in China or Singapore
I am sure we could all have a whip round to get you a one way ticket to Beijing, or better still some small village with no internet access in Motuo County.
I think it is something to be proud of that we live in a country where people are judged not by the colour of their skin but the content of their character, as MLK put it. I think Yousef is Yousless for a whole range of reasons but his racial background is quite irrelevant and never seems to get a mention, except when his wife's family were at risk in Gaza when he got pretty universal sympathy. I think its great we live in a country like that and we don't often give ourselves enough credit for it.
i agree, heartily, but this is where you ignore Wokeness at your peril
Woke is ALL about judging people by the color of their skin. It is obsessed with race and colour, to a pathological degree. If you are white you are intrinsically evil and sinful and racist and there is nothing you can do about it, you are privileged and must forever apologize (but you can never apologize enough), and if you are black you are ALWAYS oppressed and exploited and the descendant of slaves even if you are a billionaire and don’t even notice race, thus you are infantilised, insultingly
That is one reason Wokeness is SO insidious and poisonous. it pains me that bright people like you cannot see the danger of this
That is how I always understood Wokeness. But it seems to have expanded in meaning massively so that now it has become meaningless.
No, Woke exists and we all know it
The best comparison is the term “Fascism”. It’s notoriously hard to define fascism in a couple of sentences - even Mussolini struggled! - but we all know what it is. Hitler’s Germany, Franco’s Spain, Benito’s Italy. I’d add iran under the ayatollahs and Gaza under Hamas, and several other Islamic examples. Islamofascism is real. Imperial Japan was fascist, too
But in the meantime lefties have expanded fascism to mean “everything I don’t like”, perhaps unhelpfully, but that doesn’t mean fascism does not exist. It does, Likewise Wokeness. It is a nebulous but powerful ideology and it is absolutely obsessed with racial and sexual identity, definitely including skin colour
Woke (your definition) doesn't by itself explain how the world works, it just provides insights into it, some of them quite useful. It's like most socioeconomic type theories in this respect. You shouldn't swallow it whole or get so mad at it that your face explodes.
Woke is an anglosphere thing. Not a world thing.
Woke started in the Anglosphere, with distant roots in Marxism and French wankiness (post-structuralism). Its birthplace was mainly American universities but the Brits and Aussies and canucks soon joined in. The Brits took over the whole trans debate and really got that going, the yanks continued with race. Bit like the way we divided the Normandy beaches for invasion
But it has now spread way beyond anglophone academe into all areas of life - and also far beyond the English speaking world. It’s very discernible in Western Europe and even countries like India. And now it is spreading in the universities of Africa, Latin America and so on
Asia seems fairly immune so far. We may all end up desperate to live in China or Singapore
I dont think it travels that well. Unlike us most languages have the masculine feminine neuter set up le/la or der/die/das. It makes genderising things too complicated. Macron vetoed the academics about a week ago and said he wasnt changing anything to accommodate definitive articles.
I think we will see how woke travels more through sports where the international bodies set the standards of who is or isn't a man/woman. Women are currently getting trashed by genetic blokes it makes a mockery of the sport.
I think it is something to be proud of that we live in a country where people are judged not by the colour of their skin but the content of their character, as MLK put it. I think Yousef is Yousless for a whole range of reasons but his racial background is quite irrelevant and never seems to get a mention, except when his wife's family were at risk in Gaza when he got pretty universal sympathy. I think its great we live in a country like that and we don't often give ourselves enough credit for it.
i agree, heartily, but this is where you ignore Wokeness at your peril
Woke is ALL about judging people by the color of their skin. It is obsessed with race and colour, to a pathological degree. If you are white you are intrinsically evil and sinful and racist and there is nothing you can do about it, you are privileged and must forever apologize (but you can never apologize enough), and if you are black you are ALWAYS oppressed and exploited and the descendant of slaves even if you are a billionaire and don’t even notice race, thus you are infantilised, insultingly
That is one reason Wokeness is SO insidious and poisonous. it pains me that bright people like you cannot see the danger of this
That is how I always understood Wokeness. But it seems to have expanded in meaning massively so that now it has become meaningless.
No, Woke exists and we all know it
The best comparison is the term “Fascism”. It’s notoriously hard to define fascism in a couple of sentences - even Mussolini struggled! - but we all know what it is. Hitler’s Germany, Franco’s Spain, Benito’s Italy. I’d add iran under the ayatollahs and Gaza under Hamas, and several other Islamic examples. Islamofascism is real. Imperial Japan was fascist, too
I think all of these so called 'Fascist' regimes are just what they are individually. Eg. Imperial Japan was just Japanese history working itself out. I don't think it makes any sense to connect it with anything in the west.
I kinda agree with scholars that talk about fascism as a set of syncretic belief structures, not necessarily specific beliefs themselves (like anti-Semitism isn't inherent to fascism, but an enemy "other" is). That's why I tend towards going through Umberto Eco's list and being like "how many of these work for this political movement?"
Could you send me an email explaining all that. You've entirely lost me.
Sticking with anti-Semitism. Fascism doesn’t have to be anti-Semitic but it has to have a group that perform the purpose that Nazis used Jews for - a group of people who are a threat, an out group that they paint as both weak and strong, etc. Spanish and Italian fascism, whilst a still anti-Semitic, were much more concerned about the enemy within (the leftist) and people from the colonies (Ethiopians) then Jewish people. So anti-Semitism itself isn’t inherent to fascism, but an out group that performs that societal function for the fascist cause, is. Hence why you could still argue Japan, ancient Rome, or even ancient Sparta were fascistic, despite different cultural and historical contexts.
Ok, I understand what you're saying here. I disagree.
(For the record: I assume Gavin Newsom is running for president, with a dual strategy, first to be ready if Biden for some reason does not run in 2024, and second, preparing for 2028. As part of that strategy he is now trying to clean up some of California's problems, or at least cover them up temporarily, as he just did.)
Just popped down stairs to reception and found the TV that normally shows Sky News is showing GB TV. How do a formulate a complaint about this?
Resign, the company will be out of business in 12 months.
Not again. I have a bit of recent history in that regard...
My late brother went through a spell of giving vouchers to the kids at Christmas time. It became a standing joke that whatever company he chose went bust before they could get to the shops. Virgin, HMV and at least 2 others.
Stop The War info/template letter for parents to send to their children’s school saying they won’t be in today as they’re marching for Palestine
“ How to organise a school strike:
Gather a group of dedicated parents/teenagers in your area and create a WhatsApp group. Fill out this Google form and we will try and put you in touch with others in your area. Pick a central location in your area to have a rally on Friday morning. Create an announcements WhatsApp group with admin-only posting rights. Add other organisers as admins, and use a join link to share widely so others in the area can join it. Set the group description (template below) with the details of your strike, and use this group to let people know about the details of the strike and to share the resources below. Fill out this Google form to let us know about your school strike so we can help you with a graphic & poster, advertise it nationally including making a Facebook event for you, put you in touch with local activists and help/advise with anything else.”
I think it is something to be proud of that we live in a country where people are judged not by the colour of their skin but the content of their character, as MLK put it. I think Yousef is Yousless for a whole range of reasons but his racial background is quite irrelevant and never seems to get a mention, except when his wife's family were at risk in Gaza when he got pretty universal sympathy. I think its great we live in a country like that and we don't often give ourselves enough credit for it.
i agree, heartily, but this is where you ignore Wokeness at your peril
Woke is ALL about judging people by the color of their skin. It is obsessed with race and colour, to a pathological degree. If you are white you are intrinsically evil and sinful and racist and there is nothing you can do about it, you are privileged and must forever apologize (but you can never apologize enough), and if you are black you are ALWAYS oppressed and exploited and the descendant of slaves even if you are a billionaire and don’t even notice race, thus you are infantilised, insultingly
That is one reason Wokeness is SO insidious and poisonous. it pains me that bright people like you cannot see the danger of this
That is how I always understood Wokeness. But it seems to have expanded in meaning massively so that now it has become meaningless.
No, Woke exists and we all know it
The best comparison is the term “Fascism”. It’s notoriously hard to define fascism in a couple of sentences - even Mussolini struggled! - but we all know what it is. Hitler’s Germany, Franco’s Spain, Benito’s Italy. I’d add iran under the ayatollahs and Gaza under Hamas, and several other Islamic examples. Islamofascism is real. Imperial Japan was fascist, too
But in the meantime lefties have expanded fascism to mean “everything I don’t like”, perhaps unhelpfully, but that doesn’t mean fascism does not exist. It does, Likewise Wokeness. It is a nebulous but powerful ideology and it is absolutely obsessed with racial and sexual identity, definitely including skin colour
Woke (your definition) doesn't by itself explain how the world works, it just provides insights into it, some of them quite useful. It's like most socioeconomic type theories in this respect. You shouldn't swallow it whole or get so mad at it that your face explodes.
Woke is an anglosphere thing. Not a world thing.
Yep, like many trains of thought (and indeed global credit crunches) it started in America.
Its one of those amazing things that the UK Left want to import all the shit ideas the americans have and apply them badly in the UK.
Cant you guys just come up with some domestic ideas ?
It's not all shit by any means. Woke thinking has value if you cherrypick. Contrast with its corresponding movement on the Right (Maga and similar). There's nothing at all of value there. That's something we really shouldn't be importing.
“Scottish Labour deputy leader said parents of teenagers would understand the scenario.”
Ummm… no. If you have a work device you shouldn’t be letting your kids on it. Buy a personal device and let them use that.
Although if the article I read is right, the kids didn’t use the device but used it as a hotspot to access the internet via their own devices.
It’s the sort of sneaky thing I can imagine my own kids doing and, if it wasn’t for my device being utterly locked down regardless, I wouldn’t necessarily think to disable that function.
But the lying when caught…/ nah.
Don’t you need a password to use a device as a hotspot? I can plausibly see how that might have been given out earlier, and then they have access at any time - but once again that relies on you giving out info about your work device, and people should be keeping their work device utterly separated from everything and everyone else in their home.
I set my phone hotspot up with the same SSID and password as my home Wifi network, because that minimizes the amount of work needed to use it.
I think it is something to be proud of that we live in a country where people are judged not by the colour of their skin but the content of their character, as MLK put it. I think Yousef is Yousless for a whole range of reasons but his racial background is quite irrelevant and never seems to get a mention, except when his wife's family were at risk in Gaza when he got pretty universal sympathy. I think its great we live in a country like that and we don't often give ourselves enough credit for it.
i agree, heartily, but this is where you ignore Wokeness at your peril
Woke is ALL about judging people by the color of their skin. It is obsessed with race and colour, to a pathological degree. If you are white you are intrinsically evil and sinful and racist and there is nothing you can do about it, you are privileged and must forever apologize (but you can never apologize enough), and if you are black you are ALWAYS oppressed and exploited and the descendant of slaves even if you are a billionaire and don’t even notice race, thus you are infantilised, insultingly
That is one reason Wokeness is SO insidious and poisonous. it pains me that bright people like you cannot see the danger of this
That is how I always understood Wokeness. But it seems to have expanded in meaning massively so that now it has become meaningless.
No, Woke exists and we all know it
The best comparison is the term “Fascism”. It’s notoriously hard to define fascism in a couple of sentences - even Mussolini struggled! - but we all know what it is. Hitler’s Germany, Franco’s Spain, Benito’s Italy. I’d add iran under the ayatollahs and Gaza under Hamas, and several other Islamic examples. Islamofascism is real. Imperial Japan was fascist, too
But in the meantime lefties have expanded fascism to mean “everything I don’t like”, perhaps unhelpfully, but that doesn’t mean fascism does not exist. It does, Likewise Wokeness. It is a nebulous but powerful ideology and it is absolutely obsessed with racial and sexual identity, definitely including skin colour
Woke (your definition) doesn't by itself explain how the world works, it just provides insights into it, some of them quite useful. It's like most socioeconomic type theories in this respect. You shouldn't swallow it whole or get so mad at it that your face explodes.
Woke is an anglosphere thing. Not a world thing.
Yep, like many trains of thought (and indeed global credit crunches) it started in America.
Its one of those amazing things that the UK Left want to import all the shit ideas the americans have and apply them badly in the UK.
Cant you guys just come up with some domestic ideas ?
It's not all shit by any means. Woke thinking has value if you cherrypick. Contrast with its corresponding movement on the Right (Maga and similar). There's nothing at all of value there. That's something we really shouldn't be importing.
Make America Great Again doesn't quite work in the UK for some reason. Could be MUGA I suppose
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Some ‘wokery’ is people just asking people to not be dicks to each other. Which is something I can heartily subscribe to.
Some ‘wokery’ seems to relate to the idea that one should be mindful of their position in society when interacting with others. Again, not particularly controversial in my view.
Then we get some ‘wokery’ that starts to get quasi religious in tone. The idea of generational sin. Identity above all else. The intolerance of debate and opinion. This is the controversial stuff. The problem is that it’s lumped together with everything else.
It’s the sort of sneaky thing I can imagine my own kids doing and, if it wasn’t for my device being utterly locked down regardless, I wouldn’t necessarily think to disable that function.
But the lying when caught…/ nah.
I'm in!
But they are structurally fragile and vulnerable to an attack from the centre. The Lib Dems will probably blow it by setting themselves up, trying to be a 'nicer Labour' instead.
PR could blow the whole thing up but Labour might want to be careful of what it wishes for there - there's no guarantee that what emerges on the right will be a more pleasant prospect. Or on the left, for that matter.
https://x.com/shabbirlakha/status/1725140770661806214?s=46&t=CW4pL-mMpTqsJXCdjW0Z6Q
But there are clearly grey areas. If I see the CEO of a company boarding a flight to a place where his biggest competitor is headquartered, I can guess they are talking about a merger.
Is that insider trading?
That said, proving either charge would be all-but impossible without audio and visual recordings, and the knowledge of where and when to look.
The pre-election replacement primarily will stem from panic rather than ideology - a few Jenkyns type malcontents but mainly MPs between seats 100-250 looking at what serves their own prospects. As usual Sunak wins the VONC but weakly enough to be fatally damaged and the grey suits say he
cannot fight the election. On an MP only franchise Cleverly wins, says everyone knows what Conservative values are (sound money, aspiration etc) and promises the party will align back to them, and with any sign of a polling boost calls a GE in fairly short order.
After the election it's from a short list of survivors, involves the membership and does go ideological as you say.
Can I just check that you know your daughter sat the *old* GCSE and that in the *new* one designed by Mr Gove (whom you so admire) candidates are not supposed to be given formula sheets? That's a change that came in as a result of Covid and it was meant to be temporary.
I agree with you and Foxy that it's stupid not to give them such sheets. But that's the idea.
It's all a part of the new exams which are a test of rote learning not really a test of intelligence.
They just haven't quite finished it off yet.
I can plausibly see how that might have been given out earlier, and then they have access at any time - but once again that relies on you giving out info about your work device, and people should be keeping their work device utterly separated from everything and everyone else in their home.
Thats’… niche
It's wrong on so many levels:
Not changing the sim when instructed to
Allowing someone else to access your device, or leaving it unattended where it could be accessed by someone else
Not impressing on your family, especially your kids, that this is not an OK thing to do and a potentially sackable scenario
Giving family members the password for the device and/or the password for the hot-spot
Being oblivious to the unlawful access (is this credible?)
Being incuurious about how the bill had been run up before putting in the expenses claim (again, is this credible?)
Lying about it to your fellow party members, and Scottish parliament.
The more that comes out, the worse it gets.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1988_Labour_Party_leadership_election_(UK)
On a tangentially related note, and to the coconut discussion earlier, I think that the only three people I've met who had the nickname 'Chalky' who didn't have the surname Chalk were older black guys
The name was obviously racially motivated and like a Little John in its mockery, but was it also like a "coconut" from the otherwise racists who adopted the black guy into their social circle?
https://www.instituteforgovernment.org.uk/comment/supreme-court-rwanda-rishi-sunak-response
Essentially his conclusion is that primary legislation overriding the relevant conventions "would (probably) close off challenges in the domestic courts", though it would be difficult to get through the Lords. And it would not prevent rulings by the ECHR, but he reads Sunak's language as an indication that he would defy them. He seems doubtful that any of this will actually happen, given the imminence of an election.
However the current Tory top tier of Sunak, Hunt and Cameron is as Cameroon as the Tories will get for at least the next decade, if they lose the next election the ERG will take revenge and the shift to the right in the party will truly begin
It's pure stupidity because there's absolutely no need to run up such exhorbitant roaming bills these days with fairly ubiquitous public wifi and plenty of data plans with affordable, capped roaming.
Yes, I have done a lot of training on this stuff.
https://twitter.com/notthebadguys/status/1725184619924930733/photo/1
bureaucracy.
https://x.com/niall_gooch/status/1725178072763191776?s=46&t=CW4pL-mMpTqsJXCdjW0Z6Q
For a moment there, I was worried that I might exist to entertain you.
'No guarantee' flights to Rwanda will take off next year, Jeremy Hunt says.
@SophyRidgeSky
Yesterday I asked Immigration Minister Robert Jenrick if flights to Rwanda will take off before the next election, and he said “yes”
https://www.three.co.uk/support/roaming-and-international/roaming/about-the-data-passport
“ How to organise a school strike:
Gather a group of dedicated parents/teenagers in your area and create a WhatsApp group.
Fill out this Google form and we will try and put you in touch with others in your area.
Pick a central location in your area to have a rally on Friday morning.
Create an announcements WhatsApp group with admin-only posting rights. Add other organisers as admins, and use a join link to share widely so others in the area can join it. Set the group description (template below) with the details of your strike, and use this group to let people know about the details of the strike and to share the resources below.
Fill out this Google form to let us know about your school strike so we can help you with a graphic & poster, advertise it nationally including making a Facebook event for you, put you in touch with local activists and help/advise with anything else.”
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1B_QAZuqwClKKjAZqYbMdGaWNl47N8S-hGDiZsTTeMBE/mobilebasic
https://www.stopwar.org.uk/events/school-strike-for-palestine/
But it has now spread way beyond anglophone academe into all areas of life - and also far beyond the English speaking world. It’s very discernible in Western Europe and even countries like India. And now it is spreading in the universities of Africa, Latin America and so on
Asia seems fairly immune so far. We may all end up desperate to live in China or Singapore
That's a bit of a shame.
Cant you guys just come up with some domestic ideas ?
As someone else said “fascist” is too often simply a general term of abuse from anyone on the Left towards anyone on the Right.
My partner worked in a school there before we had kids; one of her jobs was to monitor the pupils internet use as the UN had been in touch to say it was one of likeliest places in Britain to see radicalisation.
Anjem Choudrays kids went there; every stereotype you don’t want to believe is true, is true
"In a world first, medical regulators in the UK have approved a gene therapy that aims to cure two blood disorders.
The treatment for sickle cell disease and beta thalassemia is the first to be licensed using the gene-editing tool known as Crispr, for which its discoverers were awarded the Nobel prize in 2020.
This is a revolutionary advance for two inherited blood conditions, both triggered by errors in the gene for haemoglobin."
This is enormously important for two reasons. First, it is likely to be of enormous benefit, especially to people in sub-Saharan Africa:
"Three-quarters of sickle cell cases occur in Africa. A recent WHO report estimated that around 2% of newborns in Nigeria were affected by sickle cell anaemia, giving a total of 150,000 affected children born every year in Nigeria alone. The carrier frequency ranges between 10 and 40% across equatorial Africa, decreasing to 1–2% on the North African coast and <1% in South Africa.[117] Studies in Africa show a significant decrease in infant mortality rate, ages 2–16 months, because of the sickle cell trait. This happened in areas of predominant malarial cases."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sickle_cell_disease#Epidemiology
Second, it gives us good reason to believe that other genetic diseases can be cured.
I think we will see how woke travels more through sports where the international bodies set the standards of who is or isn't a man/woman. Women are currently getting trashed by genetic blokes it makes a mockery of the sport.
Episode 1: "2010 - Helped into Power"
https://www.gocomics.com/eric-allie/2023/11/13
(For the record: I assume Gavin Newsom is running for president, with a dual strategy, first to be ready if Biden for some reason does not run in 2024, and second, preparing for 2028. As part of that strategy he is now trying to clean up some of California's problems, or at least cover them up temporarily, as he just did.)
It's akin to McCarthy's 'reds under the bed' or the C17th fear of 'popery'.