As much of a tool Goodwin is, you have to hand it to him with this ‘poll’ in terms of getting publicity for ‘People Polling’, the dodgiest pollster in political history since Angus Reid teamed up with @StuartDickson to create Subsample Scotland. I’ll eat my hat if this 30 pt lead is reflected in other polling.
And as for @Big_G_NorthWales ’s claim that it’s of 2019 Tory voters. LOL.
GB News advertised a sensational poll for 9.00pm so I watched it and Goodwin said it was from 2019 conservative voters
The comedy continued when the three panellists who discussed the poll dismissed it and were far from complimentary about Braverman and this on their own programme
And for the benefit of doubt I do not watch GB News normally
I mean, if it’s a sample of 2019 voters (it isn’t), Rishi might as well call his pal Elon and jettison Central Office into space, while converting every Tory constituency office into hostels for homeless veterans. They won’t be needed for their current purpose again.
Indeed. If the Tories can only count on 19% of their 2019 voters they are down to Green Party levels of support.
NEW: Suella Braverman has in her possession physical documents that show Rishi Sunak reneged on a deal with her to make him leader, sources say
— they may become public in the coming days along with further revelations about the PM’s record on migration
I have in my hand a piece of paper…
Suella who?
Has Sunak's camp actually denied they had a deal yet? I'd have thought the potential hit to his internal authority would be whether his word can be trusted, not whether they put his word down on paper.
Obviously if they are denying there was a deal then written proof is more impactful.
No, they explicitly did not deny it. So it sounds like there may be some extant proof
Which js really dangerous for Sunak
is it?
How many swing voters could give a f whether Braverman has a gravy stained bit of paper saying the boss promised she could be even more horrible than she was?
They just see division and chaos.
Thing is, people like you hate Braverman. And you always would and always will (which is fine, of course). But you’re never going to vote Tory anyway, so they really shouldn’t care what you think
Trouble is they often act like they do. They allowed the left to bully them into dumping Boris (of course, Boris didn’t help, he was a twat) and now they’ve allowed the left to bully them into dumping Braverman - who was a totemic figure for many on the right of the the party
So now they’re going to lose votes on the right and I really doubt Braverman haters will now say “ok, now I like the Tories again because Suella has gone, yay, vote for Sunak”
The party is weak. It is pitiful. It needs a leader who will just tell the woke and the left to jump in a lake
Boo hoo. It’s all the fault of those nwasty leftie bullies. FFS.
How could Braverman continue? She had gone postal. Completely rogue. Sending articles into the papers and refusing Downing Street’s edits. The PM had lost all control of her. Nailed on sacking, no choice.
Suella was definitely trying to get sacked at the end.
She wants to be next Conservative leader, and that means she wants to be untainted by electoral defeat, and to be the standard bearer of the right.
Hence the letter. Hence her behaviour.
The idea that she is uniquely principled is for the birds.
When you have a minister who is not speaking for the silent majority, but simply being wilfully offensive, she has to go.
Simple as.
Exactly. Even on a basic technocratic level, it’s impossible to run a government when the Home Secretary is doing what the hell she likes in the face of Downing Street’s input. No choice but to sack her regardless of what you think of her views.
Nah. Keep her in the tent. Say she is our attack dog
Just grow a pair and ignore liberal media
Who wants to share a tent with an attack dog?
An attack dog that a large majority of Brits polled said Sunak was right to sack.
She is a different beast to Boris in his pomp. If he was the Corbyn character, unaccountably appealing to a lot of people while offputting to lots of others but undoubtedly charismatic, she’s the Rebecca Long Bailey. Worst individual ratings of the entire cabinet if I recall.
Newsnight reporting on some movement on the ceasefire from Starmer . So we have a Labour amendment which calls for a cessation of fighting . Labour MPs should vote for this and accept the olive branch and not vote for the SNP amendment which will be an open goal for the Tories .
Classic Starmer.
That’s true . A cessation of fighting is as close to a ceasefire without uttering ceasefire !
Maybe the next reshuffles will involve Hunt replacing Cameron as foreign secretary and Claire Coutinho taking over as chancellor. Assumes the public make clear their annoyance at having an unelected person holding one of the top cabinet jobs.
Another resignation from the ruling Labour group on Oxford City Council over Palestine. Apparently they're now down to 22 out of 48.
It's interesting, and I can't fully explain, why this seems to have been a bigger issue in Oxford than in most other places. I don't know of anywhere else where Labour has lost a council majority over this.
Suspect plenty of Oxford Labour councillors are not paticularly bound to the party: they would happily stand as a LibDem or even Green without compunction.
Ouch. Front page of the Times. I wonder if Sunak is in danger?
“PM lied to me and betrayed Britain”. Screaming headline
It’s all a bit weird seeing as this comes right after “the greatest reshuffle in the history of the solar system”
He is if we continue to see polls with the Tories on 19%. Undoubtedly.
I am not sure I have ever seen a Times headline as hostile to a Tory PM as that one. Accusing him - via Braverman - of “betraying Britain”
That’s pretty devastating. But still they should get the massive Cameron boost soon as literally two PBers swing back from the Lib Dem’s because of the most brilliant reshuffle since God purged Satan
Who, apart from TSE, claimed it was particularly brilliant ? It was certainly a surprise - and the majority seem to be glad Braverman is gone (I concur) - but ‘brilliant’ ?
There were 3 Tory or Tory-curious fans: TSE, Topping and BigG. Of those, BigG was always going to vote Conservative anyway, but the other 2 were converts.
I certainly worried there would be a lot more in the stockbroker belt whose pencils would now land on the Tory box after hovering over Lib Dem. I still worry. I’ll not be reassured until I see a few polls with Lib Dems unchanged, and ideally a blue wall poll.
There is a large demographic of people (remain voting, traditionally Tory, commuter belt, well off, no mortgage, 55+) whose votes remain up for grabs and who are by no means dead cert Labour or LD voters, but who have been torn between distaste for the new yobbish edge to the party and love for low taxes. They seemed to warm to Sunak - hence the better blue wall polling since Boris/Liz went.
But if the party could please collapse into a further bout of internecine conflict that will hopefully see off any further squeeze.
Another resignation from the ruling Labour group on Oxford City Council over Palestine. Apparently they're now down to 22 out of 48.
It's interesting, and I can't fully explain, why this seems to have been a bigger issue in Oxford than in most other places. I don't know of anywhere else where Labour has lost a council majority over this.
Another resignation from the ruling Labour group on Oxford City Council over Palestine. Apparently they're now down to 22 out of 48.
It's interesting, and I can't fully explain, why this seems to have been a bigger issue in Oxford than in most other places. I don't know of anywhere else where Labour has lost a council majority over this.
Suspect plenty of Oxford Labour councillors are not paticularly bound to the party: they would happily stand as a LibDem or even Green without compunction.
There's something in that. To some extent there's a geographical divide - North Oxford is LibDem, East Oxford is Labour, and the Greens have been picking up votes from Labour around the city centre and the gentrifying parts of East Oxford. (There's one ex-Labour councillor on County who I'm half expecting to stand as a Green next time round.)
The other weird Oxford thing is that it has a very strong ultra-left tradition. It was basically the last redoubt of Dave Nellist's TUSC (Trade Unionist & Socialist Coalition) which had elected councillors until a few years back. I think some of the Corbynites who've resigned are basically following in this tradition.
Ouch. Front page of the Times. I wonder if Sunak is in danger?
“PM lied to me and betrayed Britain”. Screaming headline
It’s all a bit weird seeing as this comes right after “the greatest reshuffle in the history of the solar system”
He is if we continue to see polls with the Tories on 19%. Undoubtedly.
I am not sure I have ever seen a Times headline as hostile to a Tory PM as that one. Accusing him - via Braverman - of “betraying Britain”
That’s pretty devastating. But still they should get the massive Cameron boost soon as literally two PBers swing back from the Lib Dem’s because of the most brilliant reshuffle since God purged Satan
Who, apart from TSE, claimed it was particularly brilliant ? It was certainly a surprise - and the majority seem to be glad Braverman is gone (I concur) - but ‘brilliant’ ?
There were 3 Tory fans: TSE, Topping and BigG. Of those, BigG was always going to vote Conservative anyway, but the other 2 were converts.
I certainly worried there would be a lot more in the stockbroker belt whose pencils would now land on the Tory box after hovering over Lib Dem. I still worry. I’ll not be reassured until I see a few polls with Lib Dems unchanged, and ideally a blue wall poll.
There is a large demographic of people (remain voting, traditionally Tory, commuter belt, well off, no mortgage, 55+) whose votes remain up for grabs and who are by no means dead cert Labour or LD voters, but who have been torn between distaste for the new yobbish edge to the party and love for low taxes. They seemed to warm to Sunak - hence the better blue wall polling since Boris/Liz went.
But if the party could please collapse into a further bout of internecine conflict that will hopefully see off any further squeeze.
Certainly others apart from superfan TSE thought it a worthwhile gamble, but no more than that. And there was a lot of electoral swings and roundabouts type discussion.
Luckyguy1983 said: "As I understand it, all new administrations bring in their own partisan teams rather than relying upon a 'neutral' civil service as with our system."
Here's a brief description of the US presidential appointment powers, and limits on them: "According to the United States Office of Government Ethics, a political appointee is "any employee who is appointed by the President, the Vice President, or agency head".[1] As of 2016, there were around 4,000 political appointment positions which an incoming administration needs to review, and fill or confirm, of which about 1,200 require Senate confirmation.[2][3] The White House Presidential Personnel Office (PPO) is one of the offices most responsible for political appointees and for assessing candidates to work at or for the White House." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_appointments_in_the_United_States
That's many more than in most democracies.
I believe the 50,000 number comes from the Trump attempt to change many civil service jobs to patronage jobs. I don't believe a president can do that, legally, but am not an expert on the subject. The Wikipedia article describes that effort, briefly.
(One tradition that might surprise those in the UK: During wars, including the Cold War, it was traditional for the Cabinet to include one or more members of the opposiiton party. I know George W. Bush continued that tradition, but don't know whether any of his successors did.)
Another resignation from the ruling Labour group on Oxford City Council over Palestine. Apparently they're now down to 22 out of 48.
It's interesting, and I can't fully explain, why this seems to have been a bigger issue in Oxford than in most other places. I don't know of anywhere else where Labour has lost a council majority over this.
Trying to catch up on today’s events and a thought occurs. Has there been any discussion of the vote on the King’s Speech? Traditionally, it’s a test of confidence.
If the Suella wing of the party numbers anywhere near what they’ve suggested (30 was the last number I saw bandied around by one of them), it’s not inconceivable that they could bring the Government down.
It’s an extreme step but what if they think the betrayal narrative is valid and that the grassroots public share in that sentiment? What if Suella, 30p Lee and Maid Miriam think “sod it”?
It seems a little careless on the part of the Prime Minister to alienate a determined and vocal wing of his party when he (theoretically) needs them.
Apologies in advance if this has been discussed already up/down thread.
Trying to catch up on today’s events and a thought occurs. Has there been any discussion of the vote on the King’s Speech? Traditionally, it’s a test of confidence.
If the Suella wing of the party numbers anywhere near what they’ve suggested (30 was the last number I saw bandied around by one of them), it’s not inconceivable that they could bring the Government down.
It’s an extreme step but what if they think the betrayal narrative is valid and that the grassroots public share in that sentiment? What if Suella, 30p Lee and Maid Miriam think “sod it”?
It seems a little careless on the part of the Prime Minister to alienate a determined and vocal wing of his party when he (theoretically) needs them.
Apologies in advance if this has been discussed already up/down thread.
She hasn't got 30 who will actually back her in a madcap vote like this.
As much of a tool Goodwin is, you have to hand it to him with this ‘poll’ in terms of getting publicity for ‘People Polling’, the dodgiest pollster in political history since Angus Reid teamed up with @StuartDickson to create Subsample Scotland. I’ll eat my hat if this 30 pt lead is reflected in other polling.
And as for @Big_G_NorthWales ’s claim that it’s of 2019 Tory voters. LOL.
GB News advertised a sensational poll for 9.00pm so I watched it and Goodwin said it was from 2019 conservative voters
The comedy continued when the three panellists who discussed the poll dismissed it and were far from complimentary about Braverman and this on their own programme
And for the benefit of doubt I do not watch GB News normally
I mean, if it’s a sample of 2019 voters (it isn’t), Rishi might as well call his pal Elon and jettison Central Office into space, while converting every Tory constituency office into hostels for homeless veterans. They won’t be needed for their current purpose again.
Indeed. If the Tories can only count on 19% of their 2019 voters they are down to Green Party levels of support.
NEW: Suella Braverman has in her possession physical documents that show Rishi Sunak reneged on a deal with her to make him leader, sources say
— they may become public in the coming days along with further revelations about the PM’s record on migration
I have in my hand a piece of paper…
Suella who?
Has Sunak's camp actually denied they had a deal yet? I'd have thought the potential hit to his internal authority would be whether his word can be trusted, not whether they put his word down on paper.
Obviously if they are denying there was a deal then written proof is more impactful.
No, they explicitly did not deny it. So it sounds like there may be some extant proof
Which js really dangerous for Sunak
is it?
How many swing voters could give a f whether Braverman has a gravy stained bit of paper saying the boss promised she could be even more horrible than she was?
They just see division and chaos.
Thing is, people like you hate Braverman. And you always would and always will (which is fine, of course). But you’re never going to vote Tory anyway, so they really shouldn’t care what you think
Trouble is they often act like they do. They allowed the left to bully them into dumping Boris (of course, Boris didn’t help, he was a twat) and now they’ve allowed the left to bully them into dumping Braverman - who was a totemic figure for many on the right of the the party
So now they’re going to lose votes on the right and I really doubt Braverman haters will now say “ok, now I like the Tories again because Suella has gone, yay, vote for Sunak”
The party is weak. It is pitiful. It needs a leader who will just tell the woke and the left to jump in a lake
Boo hoo. It’s all the fault of those nwasty leftie bullies. FFS.
How could Braverman continue? She had gone postal. Completely rogue. Sending articles into the papers and refusing Downing Street’s edits. The PM had lost all control of her. Nailed on sacking, no choice.
Suella was definitely trying to get sacked at the end.
She wants to be next Conservative leader, and that means she wants to be untainted by electoral defeat, and to be the standard bearer of the right.
Hence the letter. Hence her behaviour.
The idea that she is uniquely principled is for the birds.
When you have a minister who is not speaking for the silent majority, but simply being wilfully offensive, she has to go.
Simple as.
Exactly. Even on a basic technocratic level, it’s impossible to run a government when the Home Secretary is doing what the hell she likes in the face of Downing Street’s input. No choice but to sack her regardless of what you think of her views.
Nah. Keep her in the tent. Say she is our attack dog
Just grow a pair and ignore liberal media
Who wants to share a tent with an attack dog?
An attack dog that a large majority of Brits polled said Sunak was right to sack.
She is a different beast to Boris in his pomp. If he was the Corbyn character, unaccountably appealing to a lot of people while offputting to lots of others but undoubtedly charismatic, she’s the Rebecca Long Bailey. Worst individual ratings of the entire cabinet if I recall.
I don't think her negative ratings are based on deep-seated antipathy. Most people don't know anything about her except that she's painted as a cartoon villain and they're supposed to hate her.
It's the inverse phenomenon of someone having broad support that's only an inch thick.
Beth Rigby @BethRigby · 10m Braverman backers say public want ‘vivid’ politicians - and reference Johnson- who speak their minds, while also acknowledging she’s a public figure that divides opinion. As for cut through, this excoriating letter to PM now has over 23m views.
Trying to catch up on today’s events and a thought occurs. Has there been any discussion of the vote on the King’s Speech? Traditionally, it’s a test of confidence.
If the Suella wing of the party numbers anywhere near what they’ve suggested (30 was the last number I saw bandied around by one of them), it’s not inconceivable that they could bring the Government down.
It’s an extreme step but what if they think the betrayal narrative is valid and that the grassroots public share in that sentiment? What if Suella, 30p Lee and Maid Miriam think “sod it”?
It seems a little careless on the part of the Prime Minister to alienate a determined and vocal wing of his party when he (theoretically) needs them.
Apologies in advance if this has been discussed already up/down thread.
She hasn't got 30 who will actually back her in a madcap vote like this.
More like three.
I agree. That’s why I said “if the numbers are anywhere near what they’ve suggested”.
I find it a little odd that amidst talk of letters to the 1922, leadership challenges, etc. the obvious (and immediate) way to wreak havoc (the King’s Speech) has been ignored.
Beth Rigby @BethRigby · 10m Braverman backers say public want ‘vivid’ politicians - and reference Johnson- who speak their minds, while also acknowledging she’s a public figure that divides opinion. As for cut through, this excoriating letter to PM now has over 23m views.
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How many times as Braverman hit the refresh key?
This has the feeling of look at how many people watched a hit piece video...its 29 trillion views now, that means insert politicians is dead man walking.
Beth Rigby @BethRigby · 10m Braverman backers say public want ‘vivid’ politicians - and reference Johnson- who speak their minds, while also acknowledging she’s a public figure that divides opinion. As for cut through, this excoriating letter to PM now has over 23m views.
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How many times as Braverman hit the refresh key?
I don't think it's possible to hit the refresh key that many times, unless someone's invented a computer program that can do it. Maybe it's got traction with US conservatives?
@Jacob_Rees_Mogg delivers excoriating attack on PM on @GBNEWS saying: “Suella Braverman is right. The PM has repeatedly and manifestly not delivered on these promises.” He adds: “Sadly, this government no longer seems serious about solving illegal or even legal migration.”
Solving 'legal migration'?
Once upon a time, the Tories under Cameron promised to reduce it to the tens of thousands a year.
@Jacob_Rees_Mogg delivers excoriating attack on PM on @GBNEWS saying: “Suella Braverman is right. The PM has repeatedly and manifestly not delivered on these promises.” He adds: “Sadly, this government no longer seems serious about solving illegal or even legal migration.”
Solving 'legal migration'?
Once upon a time, the Tories under Cameron promised to reduce it to the tens of thousands a year.
Trying to catch up on today’s events and a thought occurs. Has there been any discussion of the vote on the King’s Speech? Traditionally, it’s a test of confidence.
If the Suella wing of the party numbers anywhere near what they’ve suggested (30 was the last number I saw bandied around by one of them), it’s not inconceivable that they could bring the Government down.
It’s an extreme step but what if they think the betrayal narrative is valid and that the grassroots public share in that sentiment? What if Suella, 30p Lee and Maid Miriam think “sod it”?
It seems a little careless on the part of the Prime Minister to alienate a determined and vocal wing of his party when he (theoretically) needs them.
Apologies in advance if this has been discussed already up/down thread.
She hasn't got 30 who will actually back her in a madcap vote like this.
More like three.
Indeed. The idea that she is some sort of standard bearer for a grand rightwing faction of the PCP is, to put it politely, utter horse shit.
Though it is rather obvious, we feel compelled to point out that this “interview” is of course NOT a real a BBC interview, but a comedy sketch produced by Israel's most renowned satire show.
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The odd moment but basically not exactly That Was the Week. And not sure what they are trying to say about the BBC? Bowen is totally biased???
Another resignation from the ruling Labour group on Oxford City Council over Palestine. Apparently they're now down to 22 out of 48.
It's interesting, and I can't fully explain, why this seems to have been a bigger issue in Oxford than in most other places. I don't know of anywhere else where Labour has lost a council majority over this.
Suspect plenty of Oxford Labour councillors are not paticularly bound to the party: they would happily stand as a LibDem or even Green without compunction.
There's something in that. To some extent there's a geographical divide - North Oxford is LibDem, East Oxford is Labour, and the Greens have been picking up votes from Labour around the city centre and the gentrifying parts of East Oxford. (There's one ex-Labour councillor on County who I'm half expecting to stand as a Green next time round.)
The other weird Oxford thing is that it has a very strong ultra-left tradition. It was basically the last redoubt of Dave Nellist's TUSC (Trade Unionist & Socialist Coalition) which had elected councillors until a few years back. I think some of the Corbynites who've resigned are basically following in this tradition.
I don't think TUSC have ever had elected members in Oxford, though they do put up candidates a bit (seven of the 24 wards in 2022). There *was* a small group a bit more than a decade ago representing the Independent Working-Class Association -- never more than four or so councillors -- who were a bit of an oddity: economically leftish, but socially not so much.
I agree about the geographical divide; not so much about the idea of Labour councillors not being particularly bound to the party. From the outside, they generally come across as fairly tribal, the more so because many of them are more obviously comfortably middle-class than working-class. That said, clearly they're looking pretty fissile as a group at the moment (is it the only council where Labour have lost a majority? I thought they had in Blackburn and Burnley, which are, admittedly, not especially similar to Oxford). The vast majority of the councillors they've lost have either been quite openly ex-Momentum types (and lambasted by some of their former comrades as such), or from the Asian community, or both. And although all becoming independents, they've managed to split into three different independent groupings. Quite a mess.
As much of a tool Goodwin is, you have to hand it to him with this ‘poll’ in terms of getting publicity for ‘People Polling’, the dodgiest pollster in political history since Angus Reid teamed up with @StuartDickson to create Subsample Scotland. I’ll eat my hat if this 30 pt lead is reflected in other polling.
And as for @Big_G_NorthWales ’s claim that it’s of 2019 Tory voters. LOL.
GB News advertised a sensational poll for 9.00pm so I watched it and Goodwin said it was from 2019 conservative voters
The comedy continued when the three panellists who discussed the poll dismissed it and were far from complimentary about Braverman and this on their own programme
And for the benefit of doubt I do not watch GB News normally
I mean, if it’s a sample of 2019 voters (it isn’t), Rishi might as well call his pal Elon and jettison Central Office into space, while converting every Tory constituency office into hostels for homeless veterans. They won’t be needed for their current purpose again.
Indeed. If the Tories can only count on 19% of their 2019 voters they are down to Green Party levels of support.
NEW: Suella Braverman has in her possession physical documents that show Rishi Sunak reneged on a deal with her to make him leader, sources say
— they may become public in the coming days along with further revelations about the PM’s record on migration
I have in my hand a piece of paper…
Suella who?
Has Sunak's camp actually denied they had a deal yet? I'd have thought the potential hit to his internal authority would be whether his word can be trusted, not whether they put his word down on paper.
Obviously if they are denying there was a deal then written proof is more impactful.
No, they explicitly did not deny it. So it sounds like there may be some extant proof
Which js really dangerous for Sunak
is it?
How many swing voters could give a f whether Braverman has a gravy stained bit of paper saying the boss promised she could be even more horrible than she was?
They just see division and chaos.
Thing is, people like you hate Braverman. And you always would and always will (which is fine, of course). But you’re never going to vote Tory anyway, so they really shouldn’t care what you think
Trouble is they often act like they do. They allowed the left to bully them into dumping Boris (of course, Boris didn’t help, he was a twat) and now they’ve allowed the left to bully them into dumping Braverman - who was a totemic figure for many on the right of the the party
So now they’re going to lose votes on the right and I really doubt Braverman haters will now say “ok, now I like the Tories again because Suella has gone, yay, vote for Sunak”
The party is weak. It is pitiful. It needs a leader who will just tell the woke and the left to jump in a lake
Boo hoo. It’s all the fault of those nwasty leftie bullies. FFS.
How could Braverman continue? She had gone postal. Completely rogue. Sending articles into the papers and refusing Downing Street’s edits. The PM had lost all control of her. Nailed on sacking, no choice.
Suella was definitely trying to get sacked at the end.
She wants to be next Conservative leader, and that means she wants to be untainted by electoral defeat, and to be the standard bearer of the right.
Hence the letter. Hence her behaviour.
The idea that she is uniquely principled is for the birds.
When you have a minister who is not speaking for the silent majority, but simply being wilfully offensive, she has to go.
Simple as.
Exactly. Even on a basic technocratic level, it’s impossible to run a government when the Home Secretary is doing what the hell she likes in the face of Downing Street’s input. No choice but to sack her regardless of what you think of her views.
Nah. Keep her in the tent. Say she is our attack dog
Just grow a pair and ignore liberal media
Who wants to share a tent with an attack dog?
An attack dog that a large majority of Brits polled said Sunak was right to sack.
She is a different beast to Boris in his pomp. If he was the Corbyn character, unaccountably appealing to a lot of people while offputting to lots of others but undoubtedly charismatic, she’s the Rebecca Long Bailey. Worst individual ratings of the entire cabinet if I recall.
I don't think her negative ratings are based on deep-seated antipathy. Most people don't know anything about her except that she's painted as a cartoon villain and they're supposed to hate her.
It's the inverse phenomenon of someone having broad support that's only an inch thick.
LOL. I see this incarnation of ‘WilliamGlenn’ needs its floppy disk changing.
Trying to catch up on today’s events and a thought occurs. Has there been any discussion of the vote on the King’s Speech? Traditionally, it’s a test of confidence.
If the Suella wing of the party numbers anywhere near what they’ve suggested (30 was the last number I saw bandied around by one of them), it’s not inconceivable that they could bring the Government down.
It’s an extreme step but what if they think the betrayal narrative is valid and that the grassroots public share in that sentiment? What if Suella, 30p Lee and Maid Miriam think “sod it”?
It seems a little careless on the part of the Prime Minister to alienate a determined and vocal wing of his party when he (theoretically) needs them.
Apologies in advance if this has been discussed already up/down thread.
She hasn't got 30 who will actually back her in a madcap vote like this.
More like three.
Indeed. The idea that she is some sort of standard bearer for a grand rightwing faction of the PCP is, to put it politely, utter horse shit.
She's about to find out how cold it is outside the homeless tent.
But she'll keep up her morale by plotting the March 2025 leadership campaign and her total victory over James Cleverly.
Though it is rather obvious, we feel compelled to point out that this “interview” is of course NOT a real a BBC interview, but a comedy sketch produced by Israel's most renowned satire show.
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The odd moment but basically not exactly That Was the Week. And not sure what they are trying to say about the BBC? Bowen is totally biased???
There is the internal investigation into their coverage from a number of years that cost a lot of money that the BBC won't release that is widely thought says yes exactly this.
Ouch. Front page of the Times. I wonder if Sunak is in danger?
“PM lied to me and betrayed Britain”. Screaming headline
It’s all a bit weird seeing as this comes right after “the greatest reshuffle in the history of the solar system”
He is if we continue to see polls with the Tories on 19%. Undoubtedly.
I am not sure I have ever seen a Times headline as hostile to a Tory PM as that one. Accusing him - via Braverman - of “betraying Britain”
That’s pretty devastating. But still they should get the massive Cameron boost soon as literally two PBers swing back from the Lib Dem’s because of the most brilliant reshuffle since God purged Satan
Who, apart from TSE, claimed it was particularly brilliant ? It was certainly a surprise - and the majority seem to be glad Braverman is gone (I concur) - but ‘brilliant’ ?
There were 3 Tory fans: TSE, Topping and BigG. Of those, BigG was always going to vote Conservative anyway, but the other 2 were converts.
I certainly worried there would be a lot more in the stockbroker belt whose pencils would now land on the Tory box after hovering over Lib Dem. I still worry. I’ll not be reassured until I see a few polls with Lib Dems unchanged, and ideally a blue wall poll.
There is a large demographic of people (remain voting, traditionally Tory, commuter belt, well off, no mortgage, 55+) whose votes remain up for grabs and who are by no means dead cert Labour or LD voters, but who have been torn between distaste for the new yobbish edge to the party and love for low taxes. They seemed to warm to Sunak - hence the better blue wall polling since Boris/Liz went.
But if the party could please collapse into a further bout of internecine conflict that will hopefully see off any further squeeze.
Certainly others apart from superfan TSE thought it a worthwhile gamble, but no more than that. And there was a lot of electoral swings and roundabouts type discussion.
I knew almost immediately that the reshuffle was a major mistake, and I said so on here. For these reasons
1 the advantage of caving in to the guardian and sacking Braverman (what advantage?) was completely outweighed by the guaranteed Tory civil war that sacking her would kick off. I said it would start now in public BEFORE the election
And so it is. Look at the Times and the Mail
2. I pointed out that David Cameron is unpopular, he has a dodgy past, he will be unelected, it suggests no MPs are good enough to be For Sec, and finally the idea that this failed loser posh boy would appeal to Remainers was insane as he will just remind them that he cluelessly delivered Brexit. Leavers just hold him in contempt
Beth Rigby @BethRigby · 10m Braverman backers say public want ‘vivid’ politicians - and reference Johnson- who speak their minds, while also acknowledging she’s a public figure that divides opinion. As for cut through, this excoriating letter to PM now has over 23m views.
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How many times as Braverman hit the refresh key?
excoriating is the buzzword du jour for the political media. A bit like transition is for the football media.
As much of a tool Goodwin is, you have to hand it to him with this ‘poll’ in terms of getting publicity for ‘People Polling’, the dodgiest pollster in political history since Angus Reid teamed up with @StuartDickson to create Subsample Scotland. I’ll eat my hat if this 30 pt lead is reflected in other polling.
And as for @Big_G_NorthWales ’s claim that it’s of 2019 Tory voters. LOL.
GB News advertised a sensational poll for 9.00pm so I watched it and Goodwin said it was from 2019 conservative voters
The comedy continued when the three panellists who discussed the poll dismissed it and were far from complimentary about Braverman and this on their own programme
And for the benefit of doubt I do not watch GB News normally
I mean, if it’s a sample of 2019 voters (it isn’t), Rishi might as well call his pal Elon and jettison Central Office into space, while converting every Tory constituency office into hostels for homeless veterans. They won’t be needed for their current purpose again.
Indeed. If the Tories can only count on 19% of their 2019 voters they are down to Green Party levels of support.
NEW: Suella Braverman has in her possession physical documents that show Rishi Sunak reneged on a deal with her to make him leader, sources say
— they may become public in the coming days along with further revelations about the PM’s record on migration
I have in my hand a piece of paper…
Suella who?
Has Sunak's camp actually denied they had a deal yet? I'd have thought the potential hit to his internal authority would be whether his word can be trusted, not whether they put his word down on paper.
Obviously if they are denying there was a deal then written proof is more impactful.
No, they explicitly did not deny it. So it sounds like there may be some extant proof
Which js really dangerous for Sunak
is it?
How many swing voters could give a f whether Braverman has a gravy stained bit of paper saying the boss promised she could be even more horrible than she was?
They just see division and chaos.
Thing is, people like you hate Braverman. And you always would and always will (which is fine, of course). But you’re never going to vote Tory anyway, so they really shouldn’t care what you think
Trouble is they often act like they do. They allowed the left to bully them into dumping Boris (of course, Boris didn’t help, he was a twat) and now they’ve allowed the left to bully them into dumping Braverman - who was a totemic figure for many on the right of the the party
So now they’re going to lose votes on the right and I really doubt Braverman haters will now say “ok, now I like the Tories again because Suella has gone, yay, vote for Sunak”
The party is weak. It is pitiful. It needs a leader who will just tell the woke and the left to jump in a lake
Boo hoo. It’s all the fault of those nwasty leftie bullies. FFS.
How could Braverman continue? She had gone postal. Completely rogue. Sending articles into the papers and refusing Downing Street’s edits. The PM had lost all control of her. Nailed on sacking, no choice.
Suella was definitely trying to get sacked at the end.
She wants to be next Conservative leader, and that means she wants to be untainted by electoral defeat, and to be the standard bearer of the right.
Hence the letter. Hence her behaviour.
The idea that she is uniquely principled is for the birds.
When you have a minister who is not speaking for the silent majority, but simply being wilfully offensive, she has to go.
Simple as.
Exactly. Even on a basic technocratic level, it’s impossible to run a government when the Home Secretary is doing what the hell she likes in the face of Downing Street’s input. No choice but to sack her regardless of what you think of her views.
Nah. Keep her in the tent. Say she is our attack dog
Just grow a pair and ignore liberal media
Who wants to share a tent with an attack dog?
An attack dog that a large majority of Brits polled said Sunak was right to sack.
She is a different beast to Boris in his pomp. If he was the Corbyn character, unaccountably appealing to a lot of people while offputting to lots of others but undoubtedly charismatic, she’s the Rebecca Long Bailey. Worst individual ratings of the entire cabinet if I recall.
Suella has become something of a popular hate figure. I agree most of it is based on very shallow knowledge. 'Cruella' - it's very 'Thatcher milk snatcher'.
Ouch. Front page of the Times. I wonder if Sunak is in danger?
“PM lied to me and betrayed Britain”. Screaming headline
It’s all a bit weird seeing as this comes right after “the greatest reshuffle in the history of the solar system”
He is if we continue to see polls with the Tories on 19%. Undoubtedly.
I am not sure I have ever seen a Times headline as hostile to a Tory PM as that one. Accusing him - via Braverman - of “betraying Britain”
That’s pretty devastating. But still they should get the massive Cameron boost soon as literally two PBers swing back from the Lib Dem’s because of the most brilliant reshuffle since God purged Satan
Who, apart from TSE, claimed it was particularly brilliant ? It was certainly a surprise - and the majority seem to be glad Braverman is gone (I concur) - but ‘brilliant’ ?
There were 3 Tory fans: TSE, Topping and BigG. Of those, BigG was always going to vote Conservative anyway, but the other 2 were converts.
I certainly worried there would be a lot more in the stockbroker belt whose pencils would now land on the Tory box after hovering over Lib Dem. I still worry. I’ll not be reassured until I see a few polls with Lib Dems unchanged, and ideally a blue wall poll.
There is a large demographic of people (remain voting, traditionally Tory, commuter belt, well off, no mortgage, 55+) whose votes remain up for grabs and who are by no means dead cert Labour or LD voters, but who have been torn between distaste for the new yobbish edge to the party and love for low taxes. They seemed to warm to Sunak - hence the better blue wall polling since Boris/Liz went.
But if the party could please collapse into a further bout of internecine conflict that will hopefully see off any further squeeze.
Certainly others apart from superfan TSE thought it a worthwhile gamble, but no more than that. And there was a lot of electoral swings and roundabouts type discussion.
Ouch. Front page of the Times. I wonder if Sunak is in danger?
“PM lied to me and betrayed Britain”. Screaming headline
It’s all a bit weird seeing as this comes right after “the greatest reshuffle in the history of the solar system”
He is if we continue to see polls with the Tories on 19%. Undoubtedly.
I am not sure I have ever seen a Times headline as hostile to a Tory PM as that one. Accusing him - via Braverman - of “betraying Britain”
That’s pretty devastating. But still they should get the massive Cameron boost soon as literally two PBers swing back from the Lib Dem’s because of the most brilliant reshuffle since God purged Satan
Who, apart from TSE, claimed it was particularly brilliant ? It was certainly a surprise - and the majority seem to be glad Braverman is gone (I concur) - but ‘brilliant’ ?
There were 3 Tory fans: TSE, Topping and BigG. Of those, BigG was always going to vote Conservative anyway, but the other 2 were converts.
I certainly worried there would be a lot more in the stockbroker belt whose pencils would now land on the Tory box after hovering over Lib Dem. I still worry. I’ll not be reassured until I see a few polls with Lib Dems unchanged, and ideally a blue wall poll.
There is a large demographic of people (remain voting, traditionally Tory, commuter belt, well off, no mortgage, 55+) whose votes remain up for grabs and who are by no means dead cert Labour or LD voters, but who have been torn between distaste for the new yobbish edge to the party and love for low taxes. They seemed to warm to Sunak - hence the better blue wall polling since Boris/Liz went.
But if the party could please collapse into a further bout of internecine conflict that will hopefully see off any further squeeze.
Certainly others apart from superfan TSE thought it a worthwhile gamble, but no more than that. And there was a lot of electoral swings and roundabouts type discussion.
I knew almost immediately that the reshuffle was a major mistake, and I said so on here. For these reasons
1 the advantage of caving in to the guardian and sacking Braverman (what advantage?) was completely outweighed by the guaranteed Tory civil war that sacking her would kick off. I said it would start now in public BEFORE the election
And so it is. Look at the Times and the Mail
2. I pointed out that David Cameron is unpopular, he has a dodgy past, he will be unelected, it suggests no MPs are good enough to be For Sec, and finally the idea that this failed loser posh boy would appeal to Remainers was insane as he will just remind them that he cluelessly delivered Brexit. Leavers just hold him in contempt
Other than that, the reshuffle was genius
We’ll see; you might prove right.
70% of the public still (the pollsters say) think it was right to sack her - though they’re not at all as keen on the Cameron return. The more interesting question to me is whether he is confined (or confines himself) entirely to his foreign policy brief, or has a larger political role.
Speaker Mike Johnson passes his first big test: "On Tuesday afternoon, Republicans and Democrats reached a deal in the House to avoid a government shutdown, passing a continuing resolution that will fund some government departments until mid-January and the rest through early February. The bill does not include spending cuts or policy changes that Republican hard-liners sought. . . . 127 Republicans and 209 Democrats voted in favor of the bill, which required the support of two-thirds of the chamber as House Speaker Mike Johnson (R-La.) chose to pass the bill under the suspension of House rules to fast track it because some Republicans were planning to block the bill during a procedural vote."
Two Democrats and 93 Republicans voted against the bill.
Sarah Vine: "I can't help thinking that if Sunak was going to resurrect the ghost of any Prime Minister past, he might have been better off choosing the one who inspired an 80-seat majority — and not the one who lost a referendum and then walked away."
Speaker Mike Johnson passes his first big test: "On Tuesday afternoon, Republicans and Democrats reached a deal in the House to avoid a government shutdown, passing a continuing resolution that will fund some government departments until mid-January and the rest through early February. The bill does not include spending cuts or policy changes that Republican hard-liners sought. . . . 127 Republicans and 209 Democrats voted in favor of the bill, which required the support of two-thirds of the chamber as House Speaker Mike Johnson (R-La.) chose to pass the bill under the suspension of House rules to fast track it because some Republicans were planning to block the bill during a procedural vote."
Two Democrats and 93 Republicans voted against the bill.
Which test, though ? It’s a welcome vote, which I applaud - but from the Speaker’s POV, relying on a majority of Democratic votes to get it through, against the no votes of a large GOP minority, might prove hazardous for his position.
Thanks to Alan for the article about Argentina, which has been slightly overshadowed on this page by British politics. We have some excellent header writers on PB.
As much of a tool Goodwin is, you have to hand it to him with this ‘poll’ in terms of getting publicity for ‘People Polling’, the dodgiest pollster in political history since Angus Reid teamed up with @StuartDickson to create Subsample Scotland. I’ll eat my hat if this 30 pt lead is reflected in other polling.
And as for @Big_G_NorthWales ’s claim that it’s of 2019 Tory voters. LOL.
We probably need to be careful about how much in the hospital they may be. The Chief of the hospital was told by the Israelis that they will be operating at it but it isnt yet clear whether that means they are occupying the main multi storey building to any extent. Better to wait to see if the 'storming' is a full on assault to control the building, a ground/basement floor entrance operation or in the grounds.
With the economy/inflation looking like they will improve somewhat, the question for Sunak must be: why not just be patient?
Instead, he's gone tank slapper and pissed off:
1) The left for appointing people like Braverman 2) The red wall for cancelling HS2 3) The blue wall for cancelling Net Zero and putting a motorway through the Shires 4) The right for swapping Braverman for Cameron 5) Remainers for appointing Cameron
It's like the Top Gear phase where they pissed off every minority/country in a couple of seasons. But without the massive popularity.
Just for context, Al Shifa has multiple building on the campus including the main multi storey and a good half a dozen or so standalone buildings. The Israelis reportedly believe there are 5 Hamas positions, pretty much all below ground beside or directly under buildings on the campus, including under one of the main multi storey buildings
Another resignation from the ruling Labour group on Oxford City Council over Palestine. Apparently they're now down to 22 out of 48.
It's interesting, and I can't fully explain, why this seems to have been a bigger issue in Oxford than in most other places. I don't know of anywhere else where Labour has lost a council majority over this.
Suspect plenty of Oxford Labour councillors are not paticularly bound to the party: they would happily stand as a LibDem or even Green without compunction.
There's something in that. To some extent there's a geographical divide - North Oxford is LibDem, East Oxford is Labour, and the Greens have been picking up votes from Labour around the city centre and the gentrifying parts of East Oxford. (There's one ex-Labour councillor on County who I'm half expecting to stand as a Green next time round.)
The other weird Oxford thing is that it has a very strong ultra-left tradition. It was basically the last redoubt of Dave Nellist's TUSC (Trade Unionist & Socialist Coalition) which had elected councillors until a few years back. I think some of the Corbynites who've resigned are basically following in this tradition.
They used to make cars there, hence Oxford = Cowley Tech.
With the economy/inflation looking like they will improve somewhat, the question for Sunak must be: why not just be patient?
Instead, he's gone tank slapper and pissed off:
1) The left for appointing people like Braverman 2) The red wall for cancelling HS2 3) The blue wall for cancelling Net Zero and putting a motorway through the Shires 4) The right for swapping Braverman for Cameron 5) Remainers for appointing Cameron
It's like the Top Gear phase where they pissed off every minority/country in a couple of seasons. But without the massive popularity.
Sunak being the Hammond to Boris's Clarkson I suppose. (And May's May?)
With the economy/inflation looking like they will improve somewhat, the question for Sunak must be: why not just be patient?
Instead, he's gone tank slapper and pissed off:
1) The left for appointing people like Braverman 2) The red wall for cancelling HS2 3) The blue wall for cancelling Net Zero and putting a motorway through the Shires 4) The right for swapping Braverman for Cameron 5) Remainers for appointing Cameron
It's like the Top Gear phase where they pissed off every minority/country in a couple of seasons. But without the massive popularity.
From my perspective as a righty type, it's like the man is a raving schizophrenic. One moment he's doing stuff to make sure I never vote Tory again. Next he's busy trying to woo me with hints that he understands reality on things like net zero. Then he appoints "hug a huskie" Cameron. I've literally no idea either what he actually believes or wants to do with the country, but I'm increasingly sure I don't want to vote for him.
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These aren’t the approximately 4000 political appointments every incoming administration makes.
She is a different beast to Boris in his pomp. If he was the Corbyn character, unaccountably appealing to a lot of people while offputting to lots of others but undoubtedly charismatic, she’s the Rebecca Long Bailey. Worst individual ratings of the entire cabinet if I recall.
Wiki has it as the most recent poll here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_next_United_Kingdom_general_election
When you click the link to look at the tables it sends you here
https://peoplepolling.org/tables/202303_GBN_W13_full.pdf
Says the poll is from March 29th 2023? 🤷♂️
Political appointees are legally a separate category from career civil servants:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_appointments_in_the_United_States
This envisages something at least an order of magnitude larger, and of a different kind.
I certainly worried there would be a lot more in the stockbroker belt whose pencils would now land on the Tory box after hovering over Lib Dem. I still worry. I’ll not be reassured until I see a few polls with Lib Dems unchanged, and ideally a blue wall poll.
There is a large demographic of people (remain voting, traditionally Tory, commuter belt, well off, no mortgage, 55+) whose votes remain up for grabs and who are by no means dead cert Labour or LD voters, but who have been torn between distaste for the new yobbish edge to the party and love for low taxes. They seemed to warm to Sunak - hence the better blue wall polling since Boris/Liz went.
But if the party could please collapse into a further bout of internecine conflict that will hopefully see off any further squeeze.
The man says it in front of tens of thousands of Jews who are gathering in Washington D.C. today to protest against antisemitism.
https://x.com/visegrad24/status/1724564371907490280?s=20
They won IMSA Sportscar and Michelin Endurance this year with the V-Series so they know plenty about going around corners.
The other weird Oxford thing is that it has a very strong ultra-left tradition. It was basically the last redoubt of Dave Nellist's TUSC (Trade Unionist & Socialist Coalition) which had elected councillors until a few years back. I think some of the Corbynites who've resigned are basically following in this tradition.
Here's a brief description of the US presidential appointment powers, and limits on them:
"According to the United States Office of Government Ethics, a political appointee is "any employee who is appointed by the President, the Vice President, or agency head".[1] As of 2016, there were around 4,000 political appointment positions which an incoming administration needs to review, and fill or confirm, of which about 1,200 require Senate confirmation.[2][3] The White House Presidential Personnel Office (PPO) is one of the offices most responsible for political appointees and for assessing candidates to work at or for the White House."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_appointments_in_the_United_States
That's many more than in most democracies.
I believe the 50,000 number comes from the Trump attempt to change many civil service jobs to patronage jobs. I don't believe a president can do that, legally, but am not an expert on the subject. The Wikipedia article describes that effort, briefly.
(One tradition that might surprise those in the UK: During wars, including the Cold War, it was traditional for the Cabinet to include one or more members of the opposiiton party. I know George W. Bush continued that tradition, but don't know whether any of his successors did.)
Purveyors of lacklustre or downright useless PMs for a good while.
If the Suella wing of the party numbers anywhere near what they’ve suggested (30 was the last number I saw bandied around by one of them), it’s not inconceivable that they could bring the Government down.
It’s an extreme step but what if they think the betrayal narrative is valid and that the
grassrootspublic share in that sentiment? What if Suella, 30p Lee and Maid Miriam think “sod it”?It seems a little careless on the part of the Prime Minister to alienate a determined and vocal wing of his party when he (theoretically) needs them.
Apologies in advance if this has been discussed already up/down thread.
And yet millions will vote for him quite probably ending 200 odd years of democracy and liberal freedom under the law.
Quite incredible.
More like three.
It's the inverse phenomenon of someone having broad support that's only an inch thick.
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Braverman backers say public want ‘vivid’ politicians - and reference
Johnson- who speak their minds, while also acknowledging she’s a public figure that divides opinion. As for cut through, this excoriating letter to PM now has over 23m views.
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How many times as Braverman hit the refresh key?
I find it a little odd that amidst talk of letters to the 1922, leadership challenges, etc. the obvious (and immediate) way to wreak havoc (the King’s Speech) has been ignored.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2010/jan/11/david-cameron-limit-immigration
https://www.tomorrowspapers.co.uk/daily-mirror-front-page-2023-11-15/
https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1724571122388087033
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The BBC has secured an “exclusive interview” with the leader of Hamas.
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Though it is rather obvious, we feel compelled to point out that this “interview” is of course NOT a real a BBC interview, but a comedy sketch produced by Israel's most renowned satire show.
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The odd moment but basically not exactly That Was the Week. And not sure what they are trying to say about the BBC? Bowen is totally biased???
I agree about the geographical divide; not so much about the idea of Labour councillors not being particularly bound to the party. From the outside, they generally come across as fairly tribal, the more so because many of them are more obviously comfortably middle-class than working-class. That said, clearly they're looking pretty fissile as a group at the moment (is it the only council where Labour have lost a majority? I thought they had in Blackburn and Burnley, which are, admittedly, not especially similar to Oxford). The vast majority of the councillors they've lost have either been quite openly ex-Momentum types (and lambasted by some of their former comrades as such), or from the Asian community, or both. And although all becoming independents, they've managed to split into three different independent groupings. Quite a mess.
But she'll keep up her morale by plotting the March 2025 leadership campaign and her total victory over James Cleverly.
1 the advantage of caving in to the guardian and sacking Braverman (what advantage?) was completely outweighed by the guaranteed Tory civil war that sacking her would kick off. I said it would start now in public BEFORE the election
And so it is. Look at the Times and the Mail
2. I pointed out that David Cameron is unpopular, he has a dodgy past, he will be unelected, it suggests no MPs are good enough to be For Sec, and finally the idea that this failed loser posh boy would appeal to Remainers was insane as he will just remind them that he cluelessly delivered Brexit. Leavers just hold him in contempt
Other than that, the reshuffle was genius
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Well, that dead cat got buried quickly.
70% of the public still (the pollsters say) think it was right to sack her - though they’re not at all as keen on the Cameron return.
The more interesting question to me is whether he is confined (or confines himself) entirely to his foreign policy brief, or has a larger political role.
https://twitter.com/JoeTruzman/status/1724579218024214610
"On Tuesday afternoon, Republicans and Democrats reached a deal in the House to avoid a government shutdown, passing a continuing resolution that will fund some government departments until mid-January and the rest through early February. The bill does not include spending cuts or policy changes that Republican hard-liners sought.
. . .
127 Republicans and 209 Democrats voted in favor of the bill, which required the support of two-thirds of the chamber as House Speaker Mike Johnson (R-La.) chose to pass the bill under the suspension of House rules to fast track it because some Republicans were planning to block the bill during a procedural vote."
Two Democrats and 93 Republicans voted against the bill.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-12749625/SARAH-VINE-David-Camerons-decent-White-Lady-Rishi-Sunak-resurrect-ghost-PM.html
Any reference to reality would be lost on him.
It’s a welcome vote, which I applaud - but from the Speaker’s POV, relying on a majority of Democratic votes to get it through, against the no votes of a large GOP minority, might prove hazardous for his position.
Instead, he's gone tank slapper and pissed off:
1) The left for appointing people like Braverman
2) The red wall for cancelling HS2
3) The blue wall for cancelling Net Zero and putting a motorway through the Shires
4) The right for swapping Braverman for Cameron
5) Remainers for appointing Cameron
It's like the Top Gear phase where they pissed off every minority/country in a couple of seasons. But without the massive popularity.
I've literally no idea either what he actually believes or wants to do with the country, but I'm increasingly sure I don't want to vote for him.