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Now the knives are out for Hun – politicalbetting.com
Now the knives are out for Hun – politicalbetting.com
? BREAKING: Tory MPs demand that Rishi Sunak SACKS Chancellor Jeremy Hunt in the upcoming reshuffle or face "annihilation" at GE[@HarriLine]
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And a response:
"Interestingly enough, your paperwork on your propery is not valid if you don't hold russian passport.
They literally force citizens to get russian passports, otherwise they can't own property there."
https://twitter.com/MamedovGyunduz/status/1714190461382889520
And who do they want instead?
She's of the "no change, no chance" brigade.
I think it is change, or no change it is no chance.
He couldn't?
He mustn't...
He bloody will, won't he?
Chancellor Grant Shapps....
If Hunt and Rishi have resolved the emergency then it could be argued is there a need for Hunt now?
If they haven't, then a new direction could also be argued as justifying the change.
But that seems unlikely as a) that would apply to Rishi as well, and b) the messaging appears to be it is too soon to change course, so changing Chancellors would not lead to policy change.
Though I think he first needs stints at Education and Health.
So Chancellor after next.
Ending fiscal drag would not be a tax cut, it would be ending a tax rise.
Tax thresholds rising with inflation isn't a tax cut, its revenue neutral.
Blimey - multiple Labour MPs telling me that a couple of shadow cabinet members are considering resigning over Keir Starmer’s handling of the Gaza situation
https://x.com/ShehabKhan/status/1717137955637121084?s=20
Proof positive that "things can only get better" is not factual.
I'm not sure the public really react to such a thing, but it's probably better to have someone planning to be around be the economic face of the party.
And if you want growth you need infrastructure - so clearly Hunt and co don't want growth because all the infrastructure projects have been cancelled....
Have they never even glanced at Russias own justifications and statements going well beyond that?
That's £200 billion, more than the NHS costs in all. Could you find some figures for cuts that adds up to roughly this, shuts up the infinite clamour for greater expenditure, avoids civil insurrection and wins the next election. Hunt and Sunak will be pleased to hear it.
1. The usual critics on the far left, who can scarcely contain their glee at being presented with an excuse to weigh in against Keir Starmer as strongly as possible. They see it as an opportunity. The Momentum-supporting Oxford councillor on the radio this morning was an example.
2. A broad swathe of opinion within the wider Labour Party, people who are mostly supportive of the leadership and certainly not those habitually seeking to undermine it from within. That includes amongst others Muslim councillors, most of whom are quite willing to condemn Hamas's actions on 7th October unreservedly but nonetheless are appalled by the humanitarian situation unfolding in Gaza and the relentless killing through bombing and are getting it in the neck from their local communities who are similarly appalled.
In political terms, Keir Starmer should be concerned. The usual critics are not of much relevance, they have already been marginalised within the party and there is no way back now. However, the criticism from within the Muslim community will lose Labour electoral support if not properly addressed, some of it in marginal seats. If Israel continues on its present course, the situation in Gaza is going to get even worse and I think that public opinion will increasingly become critical of the actions of the Israeli government going forward.
I wonder this is part of the policy to appease the pro-Palestine element in Labour PLP.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/israel-must-be-urged-to-follow-the-laws-of-war-ministers-told/ar-AA1iMuRr?ocid=entnewsntp&cvid=2dd5acb5e2194760b6068e0d0678bcbb&ei=12
And that's just arithmetic.
To argue for ceasefire while an undeniable war crime continues by holding the hostages has little appeal for most centrists. Those are the votes Sir K has acquired and needs to retain.
Considering is the operative word here.
Most of us don't care, and most PMs are wise enough not to make a big deal of it.
If Tory MPs want more deep tax cuts again they can have that put it in the party's election manifesto and see if they get a mandate from voters for it
By calling for a ceasefire, what people are saying is that Israel should never act back against terrorism.
The true respond should be that Isreal has a right to act against Hamas, but every action should be lawful, measured and no open ended.
Which is basically Starmers position, He is right, and should hold right against those which are anti-israel.
I think it would hardly be noticed, because it is as irrelevant as Starmers wife.
However we shouldn’t think that the market thinks all the problems are solved, we are still in a very twitchy phase.
Hunt obviously wishes to stand down at the next election, but Sunak can’t just swap him out for Billy Random without some appreciable market risk. In some ways, Hunt is now seen as a safer pair of hands than Sunak himself.
If one assumes an Autumn 24 election, I would guess Hunt will be reshuffled in Spring.
Was there much demand that we should be condemning Russia for its actions in Syria? That seemed far more barbaric and indiscriminate that what we have seen so far from Israel.
The UK and US taxed and regulated themselves into growth in the - the hay day for workers and goods was under the highest taxes on the richest people, and - the UK specifically - went from being hollowed out by the WW2 to rebuilding itself better with the NHS, council homes, state run schools and a social safety net. Every action from the right wing since has been to chip away at the successes of that era.
It’s funded by immense oil wealth and has carved out a small niche as a centre for Middle Eastern and to some extent Indian trade.
It’s also run on very cheap Indian labour.
It’s hardly a scalable model.
As an aside, it’s one of the ironies of global economics that Britain and France, while jealously preserving their very different economic models, have pretty much tracked alongside each other in terms of GDP per capita for about fifty years.
Sir K faces a very particular problem. Elections are won from the centre, and by coalition of interest groups. The Tories have lost, for now, millions from the centre which is why Sir K can win. The usual Tory coalition from right wing to centrist is (with a few eccentric exceptions) broadly sympathetic to Israel.
The current Labour coalition is deeply divided. Most of the new voters he needs are from the centre who voted Tory (me included); most of those are sympathetic to Israel, a fortiori. But his coalition includes also: most Muslims, the broad left, the public sector payroll vote, people who don't know any history, BAMEs, the young, WWC, single issue fanatics, champagne socialists and media talking heads.
Once those particular Pandora's boxes is let out of the Trojan horse they will be uneasy bedfellows over Israel/Palestine/Hamas.
There is no good way for Sir K to handle this. Only bad and worse ones. He deserves the support of all who think this current government must be replaced.
And Lego does very well, too.
I'm happy not to know most minister's religious or other affiliations.
It's like the other argument that corporation tax should be lower - we had low corporation tax rates for 12 years but that didn't result in companies investing money - they just continued to run short term profit maximising low investment operations..
https://news.un.org/en/story/2023/10/1142687
But again - this is just a continuation of Israeli lives mattering and Palestinian lives don't.
https://www.thenational.scot/news/19622026.labour-mps-consider-defecting-tories-keir-starmers-leadership/
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/may/11/milifan-prime-minister-ed-miliband
Interesting polling from Ipsos (rest of thread too):
"Reeves consistently leads Jeremy Hunt on who would make the best Chancellor. Could Reeves be a 'secret weapon' for Labour at an election?
It's unusual for a Shad Chancellor to be ahead here. Pre Reeves last one was Balls in '13."
https://twitter.com/keiranpedley/status/1717152862596108506?t=iYIEmBELC_IcyWJQwRQ1iw&s=19
I would much rather the people here who do not care about the number of dead Palestinians just say so, or take TOPPINGs position, which is at least honest. I can have an honest disagreement with them when their idea of war morality is essentially just "might decides right". But to all the people who say how horrified they are of 1,400 killed - including babies! - and then hand wave away years of Palestinian children being killed or the civilians death now - your morality is hollow. You don't care about life. You care about your side, your team, your allies - but not human life.
When Blair and Brown stuck to Tory spending plans in the early years of their rule, the economy continued to perform strongly (though the storm clouds were gathering as they were already ramping up spending via PPPs). When they threw off this discipline, things went progressively to shit.