What is wrong with them? The idea that the Irish or the Catholic Scots are oppressed like the Palestinians is as juvenile as it is embarrassing. This is Ireland which is entirely free and stable and has got rich from parasitic corporation tax rates while relying on the British to defend them. Get tae fuck
This has been going on for some decades. Since the 1980's(?) the Unionists and Republicans have separated on Israel/Palestine grounds. The (Irish) Republicans saw an analogy between the Plantation of Ulster and the building of Israeli settler towns in the Palestinian territories, or even the establishment of Israel. The inevitable sortition followed.
[EDIT: I see @Alanbrooke got there before me. Must type faster ]
The old official flag of Northern Ireland had a red Star of David on it, but not sure if that's common knowledge these days.
What is wrong with them? The idea that the Irish or the Catholic Scots are oppressed like the Palestinians is as juvenile as it is embarrassing. This is Ireland which is entirely free and stable and has got rich from parasitic corporation tax rates while relying on the British to defend them. Get tae fuck
This has been going on for some decades. Since the 1980's(?) the Unionists and Republicans have separated on Israel/Palestine grounds. The (Irish) Republicans saw an analogy between the Plantation of Ulster and the building of Israeli settler towns in the Palestinian territories, or even the establishment of Israel. The inevitable sortition followed.
[EDIT: I see @Alanbrooke got there before me. Must type faster ]
The old official flag of Northern Ireland had a red Star of David on it, but not sure if that's common knowledge these days.
Probably not, because it isnt true.
It has a white six point star one for each county.
I see Celtic fans covered themselves in glory today:
Sinn Fein are doing the same on Twitter
What is wrong with them? The idea that the Irish or the Catholic Scots are oppressed like the Palestinians is as juvenile as it is embarrassing. This is Ireland which is entirely free and stable and has got rich from parasitic corporation tax rates while relying on the British to defend them. Get tae fuck
I see Celtic fans covered themselves in glory today:
Sinn Fein are doing the same on Twitter
What is wrong with them? The idea that the Irish or the Catholic Scots are oppressed like the Palestinians is as juvenile as it is embarrassing. This is Ireland which is entirely free and stable and has got rich from parasitic corporation tax rates while relying on the British to defend them. Get tae fuck
I see Celtic fans covered themselves in glory today:
Sinn Fein are doing the same on Twitter
What is wrong with them? The idea that the Irish or the Catholic Scots are oppressed like the Palestinians is as juvenile as it is embarrassing. This is Ireland which is entirely free and stable and has got rich from parasitic corporation tax rates while relying on the British to defend them. Get tae fuck
Despite being the subject of the thread header, for some bizarre reason I reckon this poll will get a lot less attention than the last Opinium, particularly from @Mexicanpete@Big_G_NorthWales and @bigjohnowls . I don’t know why, I am struggling to put my finger on it.
They'll say "Israel" but you know and I know that even without this shit today they'd be quiet about it.
Because, of course, absolutely nothing has happened today that might be more important than which technocrat gets to govern a stable, safe country where nobody is in fear of bombs raining down on them.
Is a 'technocrat' a halfway competent politician not enamoured of delusional bullshit?
I see Celtic fans covered themselves in glory today:
Sinn Fein are doing the same on Twitter
What is wrong with them? The idea that the Irish or the Catholic Scots are oppressed like the Palestinians is as juvenile as it is embarrassing. This is Ireland which is entirely free and stable and has got rich from parasitic corporation tax rates while relying on the British to defend them. Get tae fuck
They should take a leaf out of your guys’ book.
The fact you felt the need to respond to that with whataboutism says a lot about you.
Basically far too many Celtic and Rangers supporters are hateful morons. Scottish football in Glasgow is still a cesspit. It reflects badly on the city and country.
Sorry, I forgot that only gammony old reactionaries who don’t live in Scotland are allowed to expostulate on Scottish football on PB.
Sometimes I wonder whether Hamas has become a puppet organisation for Netanyahu. The timing of this is perfect, just as he was facing a popular revolt at home up pops Hamas with exactly what he needs to cling onto power.
I see Celtic fans covered themselves in glory today:
Sinn Fein are doing the same on Twitter
What is wrong with them? The idea that the Irish or the Catholic Scots are oppressed like the Palestinians is as juvenile as it is embarrassing. This is Ireland which is entirely free and stable and has got rich from parasitic corporation tax rates while relying on the British to defend them. Get tae fuck
They should take a leaf out of your guys’ book.
The fact you felt the need to respond to that with whataboutism says a lot about you.
Basically far too many Celtic and Rangers supporters are hateful morons. Scottish football in Glasgow is still a cesspit. It reflects badly on the city and country.
Sorry, I forgot that only gammony old reactionaries who don’t live in Scotland are allowed to expostulate on Scottish football on PB.
That's your reply? You couldn't actually justify your post could you? So you go for an insult.
No I don't live in Scotland, but my mother is Glaswegian and I have a lot of Scottish relatives, so I'm well aware of what a cancer sectarianism is and I don't find it funny or acceptable in any circumstances. That it still goes on is a disgrace for Scottish football and the whole country.
I see Celtic fans covered themselves in glory today:
Sinn Fein are doing the same on Twitter
What is wrong with them? The idea that the Irish or the Catholic Scots are oppressed like the Palestinians is as juvenile as it is embarrassing. This is Ireland which is entirely free and stable and has got rich from parasitic corporation tax rates while relying on the British to defend them. Get tae fuck
They should take a leaf out of your guys’ book.
The fact you felt the need to respond to that with whataboutism says a lot about you.
Basically far too many Celtic and Rangers supporters are hateful morons. Scottish football in Glasgow is still a cesspit. It reflects badly on the city and country.
Sorry, I forgot that only gammony old reactionaries who don’t live in Scotland are allowed to expostulate on Scottish football on PB.
Also interested to be told that Rangers fans have a fetish for Prussian uniforms c. 1870. That badge looked a lot more modern to me, but what do I know? I'm not a fitba-mad weegie. Or fitba mad anything.
I see Celtic fans covered themselves in glory today:
Sinn Fein are doing the same on Twitter
What is wrong with them? The idea that the Irish or the Catholic Scots are oppressed like the Palestinians is as juvenile as it is embarrassing. This is Ireland which is entirely free and stable and has got rich from parasitic corporation tax rates while relying on the British to defend them. Get tae fuck
They should take a leaf out of your guys’ book.
The fact you felt the need to respond to that with whataboutism says a lot about you.
Basically far too many Celtic and Rangers supporters are hateful morons. Scottish football in Glasgow is still a cesspit. It reflects badly on the city and country.
Sorry, I forgot that only gammony old reactionaries who don’t live in Scotland are allowed to expostulate on Scottish football on PB.
Also interested to be told that Rangers fans have a fetish for Prussian uniforms c. 1870. That badge looked a lot more modern to me, but what do I know? I'm not a fitba-mad weegie. Or fitba mad anything.
Wouldnt worry about it, its just a function of Scotlands failing education system.
I see Celtic fans covered themselves in glory today:
Sinn Fein are doing the same on Twitter
What is wrong with them? The idea that the Irish or the Catholic Scots are oppressed like the Palestinians is as juvenile as it is embarrassing. This is Ireland which is entirely free and stable and has got rich from parasitic corporation tax rates while relying on the British to defend them. Get tae fuck
They should take a leaf out of your guys’ book.
The fact you felt the need to respond to that with whataboutism says a lot about you.
Basically far too many Celtic and Rangers supporters are hateful morons. Scottish football in Glasgow is still a cesspit. It reflects badly on the city and country.
Sorry, I forgot that only gammony old reactionaries who don’t live in Scotland are allowed to expostulate on Scottish football on PB.
That's your reply? You couldn't actually justify your post could you? So you go for an insult.
No I don't live in Scotland, but my mother is Glaswegian and I have a lot of Scottish relatives, so I'm well aware of what a cancer sectarianism is and I don't find it funny or acceptable in any circumstances. That it still goes on is a disgrace for Scottish football and the whole country.
Love a bit of both sides are as bad each other. Just to frank your credentials, do you prefer Tunnock’s teacakes or caramel logs?
What is wrong with them? The idea that the Irish or the Catholic Scots are oppressed like the Palestinians is as juvenile as it is embarrassing. This is Ireland which is entirely free and stable and has got rich from parasitic corporation tax rates while relying on the British to defend them. Get tae fuck
This has been going on for some decades. Since the 1980's(?) the Unionists and Republicans have separated on Israel/Palestine grounds. The (Irish) Republicans saw an analogy between the Plantation of Ulster and the building of Israeli settler towns in the Palestinian territories, or even the establishment of Israel. The inevitable sortition followed.
[EDIT: I see @Alanbrooke got there before me. Must type faster ]
I know the history, but at this late stage it is utterly wanky and cringe
I guess Celtic (and Rangers) have the excuse that they are mere football fans, a group of people not known for their maturity. It is worse from Sinn Fein, an actual governing party
Says the very mature bloke whose first reaction to a flare up in the Israel Palestine conflict was to parse the response of the leader of the SNP and find it wanting.
Sometimes I wonder whether Hamas has become a puppet organisation for Netanyahu. The timing of this is perfect, just as he was facing a popular revolt at home up pops Hamas with exactly what he needs to cling onto power.
A "pivotal moment" for Israel as Andrew England calls it in the FT, "the biggest challenge to Israel since 1973" as Bethan McKernan calls it in the Guardian, "the most significant military challenge to Israel in 50 years" as Bel Trew calls it in the Independent.
Basically that's what the journalists are saying. Government and opposition figures are saying the usual, that Israel has a right to defend itself.
Netanyahu was trying to whack the judiciary, a branch of the state that presumably he wants to find him not guilty in his corruption trial.
That's all out the window now. Yair Lapid rather than opposing is saying he'll serve in a GONU, which he may well soon do. And he means under Netanyahu. One thing's for certain: Netanyahu is not about to do what Peter Carrington did wrt the Falklands.
Sometimes I wonder whether Hamas has become a puppet organisation for Netanyahu. The timing of this is perfect, just as he was facing a popular revolt at home up pops Hamas with exactly what he needs to cling onto power.
It also benefits Iran, which also has a mutinous populace, now distracted by war abroad. And it benefits Shia Muslim jihadists everywhere, fearful that Israel was about to make a long term peace with Sunni Saudi Arabia
The people it really DOES not benefit are the raped, kidnapped and murdered Israelis of today, and the thousands of Gazans who will die in the weeks ahead. What a black, tragic, horrible mess
I see Celtic fans covered themselves in glory today:
Sinn Fein are doing the same on Twitter
What is wrong with them? The idea that the Irish or the Catholic Scots are oppressed like the Palestinians is as juvenile as it is embarrassing. This is Ireland which is entirely free and stable and has got rich from parasitic corporation tax rates while relying on the British to defend them. Get tae fuck
They should take a leaf out of your guys’ book.
The fact you felt the need to respond to that with whataboutism says a lot about you.
Basically far too many Celtic and Rangers supporters are hateful morons. Scottish football in Glasgow is still a cesspit. It reflects badly on the city and country.
Sorry, I forgot that only gammony old reactionaries who don’t live in Scotland are allowed to expostulate on Scottish football on PB.
That's your reply? You couldn't actually justify your post could you? So you go for an insult.
No I don't live in Scotland, but my mother is Glaswegian and I have a lot of Scottish relatives, so I'm well aware of what a cancer sectarianism is and I don't find it funny or acceptable in any circumstances. That it still goes on is a disgrace for Scottish football and the whole country.
Love a bit of both sides are as bad each other. Just to frank your credentials, do you prefer Tunnock’s teacakes or caramel logs?
I see Celtic fans covered themselves in glory today:
Sinn Fein are doing the same on Twitter
What is wrong with them? The idea that the Irish or the Catholic Scots are oppressed like the Palestinians is as juvenile as it is embarrassing. This is Ireland which is entirely free and stable and has got rich from parasitic corporation tax rates while relying on the British to defend them. Get tae fuck
They should take a leaf out of your guys’ book.
The fact you felt the need to respond to that with whataboutism says a lot about you.
Basically far too many Celtic and Rangers supporters are hateful morons. Scottish football in Glasgow is still a cesspit. It reflects badly on the city and country.
Sorry, I forgot that only gammony old reactionaries who don’t live in Scotland are allowed to expostulate on Scottish football on PB.
That's your reply? You couldn't actually justify your post could you? So you go for an insult.
No I don't live in Scotland, but my mother is Glaswegian and I have a lot of Scottish relatives, so I'm well aware of what a cancer sectarianism is and I don't find it funny or acceptable in any circumstances. That it still goes on is a disgrace for Scottish football and the whole country.
Love a bit of both sides are as bad each other. Just to frank your credentials, do you prefer Tunnock’s teacakes or caramel logs?
You have nothing of substance to say. You are out of ideas to support your post, so you are left with some luke warm insults.
What is wrong with them? The idea that the Irish or the Catholic Scots are oppressed like the Palestinians is as juvenile as it is embarrassing. This is Ireland which is entirely free and stable and has got rich from parasitic corporation tax rates while relying on the British to defend them. Get tae fuck
This has been going on for some decades. Since the 1980's(?) the Unionists and Republicans have separated on Israel/Palestine grounds. The (Irish) Republicans saw an analogy between the Plantation of Ulster and the building of Israeli settler towns in the Palestinian territories, or even the establishment of Israel. The inevitable sortition followed.
[EDIT: I see @Alanbrooke got there before me. Must type faster ]
I know the history, but at this late stage it is utterly wanky and cringe
I guess Celtic (and Rangers) have the excuse that they are mere football fans, a group of people not known for their maturity. It is worse from Sinn Fein, an actual governing party
Says the very mature bloke whose first reaction to a flare up in the Israel Palestine conflict was to parse the response of the leader of the SNP and find it wanting.
That really was not my first reaction to the Hamas thing. More like my 3.498th
I've been commenting on this all day (go see). I'm having a binge on PB
I see Celtic fans covered themselves in glory today:
Sinn Fein are doing the same on Twitter
What is wrong with them? The idea that the Irish or the Catholic Scots are oppressed like the Palestinians is as juvenile as it is embarrassing. This is Ireland which is entirely free and stable and has got rich from parasitic corporation tax rates while relying on the British to defend them. Get tae fuck
I see Celtic fans covered themselves in glory today:
Sinn Fein are doing the same on Twitter
What is wrong with them? The idea that the Irish or the Catholic Scots are oppressed like the Palestinians is as juvenile as it is embarrassing. This is Ireland which is entirely free and stable and has got rich from parasitic corporation tax rates while relying on the British to defend them. Get tae fuck
They should take a leaf out of your guys’ book.
The fact you felt the need to respond to that with whataboutism says a lot about you.
Basically far too many Celtic and Rangers supporters are hateful morons. Scottish football in Glasgow is still a cesspit. It reflects badly on the city and country.
Sorry, I forgot that only gammony old reactionaries who don’t live in Scotland are allowed to expostulate on Scottish football on PB.
Also interested to be told that Rangers fans have a fetish for Prussian uniforms c. 1870. That badge looked a lot more modern to me, but what do I know? I'm not a fitba-mad weegie. Or fitba mad anything.
Wouldnt worry about it, its just a function of Scotlands failing education system.
I'm struck by the notion that one needs to have Highers in What Glaswegian Football Team to Support and Why, as well. That went out of the window decades ago, so if it is 'failing' that's fine with me.
Sometimes I wonder whether Hamas has become a puppet organisation for Netanyahu. The timing of this is perfect, just as he was facing a popular revolt at home up pops Hamas with exactly what he needs to cling onto power.
I wonder if he'll use it to neuter the Israeli Supreme Court somehow. It would be very much in character if he does - it's what his pal Trump would do I'm sure.
The link to this instance may not be there, but the point is very very relevant. Some appeasement they are big big fans of, though the stances of Pence and others in planning to vote for people they occasionally pretend to think are wrong on so many fundamental things is just baffling.
I see Celtic fans covered themselves in glory today:
Sinn Fein are doing the same on Twitter
What is wrong with them? The idea that the Irish or the Catholic Scots are oppressed like the Palestinians is as juvenile as it is embarrassing. This is Ireland which is entirely free and stable and has got rich from parasitic corporation tax rates while relying on the British to defend them. Get tae fuck
They should take a leaf out of your guys’ book.
The fact you felt the need to respond to that with whataboutism says a lot about you.
Basically far too many Celtic and Rangers supporters are hateful morons. Scottish football in Glasgow is still a cesspit. It reflects badly on the city and country.
Sorry, I forgot that only gammony old reactionaries who don’t live in Scotland are allowed to expostulate on Scottish football on PB.
That's your reply? You couldn't actually justify your post could you? So you go for an insult.
No I don't live in Scotland, but my mother is Glaswegian and I have a lot of Scottish relatives, so I'm well aware of what a cancer sectarianism is and I don't find it funny or acceptable in any circumstances. That it still goes on is a disgrace for Scottish football and the whole country.
Love a bit of both sides are as bad each other. Just to frank your credentials, do you prefer Tunnock’s teacakes or caramel logs?
I see Celtic fans covered themselves in glory today:
Sinn Fein are doing the same on Twitter
What is wrong with them? The idea that the Irish or the Catholic Scots are oppressed like the Palestinians is as juvenile as it is embarrassing. This is Ireland which is entirely free and stable and has got rich from parasitic corporation tax rates while relying on the British to defend them. Get tae fuck
They should take a leaf out of your guys’ book.
The fact you felt the need to respond to that with whataboutism says a lot about you.
Basically far too many Celtic and Rangers supporters are hateful morons. Scottish football in Glasgow is still a cesspit. It reflects badly on the city and country.
Sorry, I forgot that only gammony old reactionaries who don’t live in Scotland are allowed to expostulate on Scottish football on PB.
Also interested to be told that Rangers fans have a fetish for Prussian uniforms c. 1870. That badge looked a lot more modern to me, but what do I know? I'm not a fitba-mad weegie. Or fitba mad anything.
Wouldnt worry about it, its just a function of Scotlands failing education system.
I'm struck by the notion that one needs to have Highers in What Glaswegian Football Team to Support and Why, as well. That went out of the window decades ago, so if it is 'failing' that's fine with me.
Phhh
Modern Scotland - no ambition
any way here's a scotsman wearing a totenkopf hussar cap
Sometimes I wonder whether Hamas has become a puppet organisation for Netanyahu. The timing of this is perfect, just as he was facing a popular revolt at home up pops Hamas with exactly what he needs to cling onto power.
It also benefits Iran, which also has a mutinous populace, now distracted by war abroad. And it benefits Shia Muslim jihadists everywhere, fearful that Israel was about to make a long term peace with Sunni Saudi Arabia
The people it really DOES not benefit are the raped, kidnapped and murdered Israelis of today, and the thousands of Gazans who will die in the weeks ahead. What a black, tragic, horrible mess
Some people you can just not deal with ever. Hamas are those people.
Crush them (Hamas). Crush them so they never come back.
And once that is done, the world needs to deal with Iran, a nation whose leaders are just pure evil.
The hair and physique matches, tragically. So she wasn't even a soldier, nor an Israeli, just a random tourist and beautiful young woman that they raped, mutilated, and murdered. And then they paraded her half naked corpse in a truck, as they spat on it and chanted Allahu Akhbar
God is Great? Really? Do you think God wants you to do that to an innocent young woman? Does that make your God even greater?
I see Celtic fans covered themselves in glory today:
Sinn Fein are doing the same on Twitter
What is wrong with them? The idea that the Irish or the Catholic Scots are oppressed like the Palestinians is as juvenile as it is embarrassing. This is Ireland which is entirely free and stable and has got rich from parasitic corporation tax rates while relying on the British to defend them. Get tae fuck
They should take a leaf out of your guys’ book.
The fact you felt the need to respond to that with whataboutism says a lot about you.
Basically far too many Celtic and Rangers supporters are hateful morons. Scottish football in Glasgow is still a cesspit. It reflects badly on the city and country.
Sorry, I forgot that only gammony old reactionaries who don’t live in Scotland are allowed to expostulate on Scottish football on PB.
Also interested to be told that Rangers fans have a fetish for Prussian uniforms c. 1870. That badge looked a lot more modern to me, but what do I know? I'm not a fitba-mad weegie. Or fitba mad anything.
Heavy the swastika is an ancient Hindu symbol of peace u kno vibes.
I see Celtic fans covered themselves in glory today:
Sinn Fein are doing the same on Twitter
What is wrong with them? The idea that the Irish or the Catholic Scots are oppressed like the Palestinians is as juvenile as it is embarrassing. This is Ireland which is entirely free and stable and has got rich from parasitic corporation tax rates while relying on the British to defend them. Get tae fuck
They should take a leaf out of your guys’ book.
The fact you felt the need to respond to that with whataboutism says a lot about you.
Basically far too many Celtic and Rangers supporters are hateful morons. Scottish football in Glasgow is still a cesspit. It reflects badly on the city and country.
Sorry, I forgot that only gammony old reactionaries who don’t live in Scotland are allowed to expostulate on Scottish football on PB.
Also interested to be told that Rangers fans have a fetish for Prussian uniforms c. 1870. That badge looked a lot more modern to me, but what do I know? I'm not a fitba-mad weegie. Or fitba mad anything.
Wouldnt worry about it, its just a function of Scotlands failing education system.
I'm struck by the notion that one needs to have Highers in What Glaswegian Football Team to Support and Why, as well. That went out of the window decades ago, so if it is 'failing' that's fine with me.
Phhh
Modern Scotland - no ambition
any way here's a scotsman wearing a totenkopf hussar cap
That’s incredibly sad. Innocent people always pay the price .
Yes, and likely to do so again:
"A very long line of Israeli tanks is heading south. Local media say the start of a ground offensive into Gaza is imminent. Israeli PM earlier warned Palestinian to leave Gaza saying the country’s army will turn Gaza into 'ruined islands.'"
I see Celtic fans covered themselves in glory today:
Sinn Fein are doing the same on Twitter
What is wrong with them? The idea that the Irish or the Catholic Scots are oppressed like the Palestinians is as juvenile as it is embarrassing. This is Ireland which is entirely free and stable and has got rich from parasitic corporation tax rates while relying on the British to defend them. Get tae fuck
They should take a leaf out of your guys’ book.
The fact you felt the need to respond to that with whataboutism says a lot about you.
Basically far too many Celtic and Rangers supporters are hateful morons. Scottish football in Glasgow is still a cesspit. It reflects badly on the city and country.
Sorry, I forgot that only gammony old reactionaries who don’t live in Scotland are allowed to expostulate on Scottish football on PB.
That's your reply? You couldn't actually justify your post could you? So you go for an insult.
No I don't live in Scotland, but my mother is Glaswegian and I have a lot of Scottish relatives, so I'm well aware of what a cancer sectarianism is and I don't find it funny or acceptable in any circumstances. That it still goes on is a disgrace for Scottish football and the whole country.
Love a bit of both sides are as bad each other. Just to frank your credentials, do you prefer Tunnock’s teacakes or caramel logs?
You have nothing of substance to say. You are out of ideas to support your post, so you are left with some luke warm insults.
You aren't worth engaging with at all.
You seem to labouring under a misapprehension that I want you to engage with me. Please disabuse yourself of that notion.
So, the cunning Labour plan is to flog the galley slaves a bit harder.
(Looks up the number of that NZ headhunter that made contact last year...)
Look, we'll all be fine once AI doctors come in along with drone surgeons and the like.
Yes, a lot of people are going to die from early bugs with the systems, but in the long run that may be less than the number dying from bugs spread by human staff, and the 24/7 nature of the treatment will see overall efficiency gains viz a viz all the suffering from long waits and inability to speak to a physician.
What is wrong with them? The idea that the Irish or the Catholic Scots are oppressed like the Palestinians is as juvenile as it is embarrassing. This is Ireland which is entirely free and stable and has got rich from parasitic corporation tax rates while relying on the British to defend them. Get tae fuck
This has been going on for some decades. Since the 1980's(?) the Unionists and Republicans have separated on Israel/Palestine grounds. The (Irish) Republicans saw an analogy between the Plantation of Ulster and the building of Israeli settler towns in the Palestinian territories, or even the establishment of Israel. The inevitable sortition followed.
[EDIT: I see @Alanbrooke got there before me. Must type faster ]
Ascendancy.
For the Irish republicans of that epoch and in the 1970s the feeling of solidarity with the Palestinians was also about belonging to a movement half of which was in prison.
In the 1960s the fellow feeling was with the civil rights movement in the USA, and the loyalists were Jim Crow fans.
I see Celtic fans covered themselves in glory today:
Sinn Fein are doing the same on Twitter
What is wrong with them? The idea that the Irish or the Catholic Scots are oppressed like the Palestinians is as juvenile as it is embarrassing. This is Ireland which is entirely free and stable and has got rich from parasitic corporation tax rates while relying on the British to defend them. Get tae fuck
They should take a leaf out of your guys’ book.
The fact you felt the need to respond to that with whataboutism says a lot about you.
Basically far too many Celtic and Rangers supporters are hateful morons. Scottish football in Glasgow is still a cesspit. It reflects badly on the city and country.
Sorry, I forgot that only gammony old reactionaries who don’t live in Scotland are allowed to expostulate on Scottish football on PB.
Also interested to be told that Rangers fans have a fetish for Prussian uniforms c. 1870. That badge looked a lot more modern to me, but what do I know? I'm not a fitba-mad weegie. Or fitba mad anything.
Wouldnt worry about it, its just a function of Scotlands failing education system.
I'm struck by the notion that one needs to have Highers in What Glaswegian Football Team to Support and Why, as well. That went out of the window decades ago, so if it is 'failing' that's fine with me.
Phhh
Modern Scotland - no ambition
any way here's a scotsman wearing a totenkopf hussar cap
So, the cunning Labour plan is to flog the galley slaves a bit harder.
(Looks up the number of that NZ headhunter that made contact last year...)
Look, we'll all be fine once AI doctors come in along with drone surgeons and the like.
Yes, a lot of people are going to die from early bugs with the systems, but in the long run that may be less than the number dying from bugs spread by human staff, and the 24/7 nature of the treatment will see overall efficiency gains viz a viz all the suffering from long waits and inability to speak to a physician.
It will be genuinely interesting to see how the placebo effect works, if at all, with Robodoc as opposed to the Drs Foxies.
That’s incredibly sad. Innocent people always pay the price .
Yes, and likely to do so again:
"A very long line of Israeli tanks is heading south. Local media say the start of a ground offensive into Gaza is imminent. Israeli PM earlier warned Palestinian to leave Gaza saying the country’s army will turn Gaza into 'ruined islands.'"
That’s incredibly sad. Innocent people always pay the price .
Yes, and likely to do so again:
"A very long line of Israeli tanks is heading south. Local media say the start of a ground offensive into Gaza is imminent. Israeli PM earlier warned Palestinian to leave Gaza saying the country’s army will turn Gaza into 'ruined islands.'"
I see Celtic fans covered themselves in glory today:
Sinn Fein are doing the same on Twitter
What is wrong with them? The idea that the Irish or the Catholic Scots are oppressed like the Palestinians is as juvenile as it is embarrassing. This is Ireland which is entirely free and stable and has got rich from parasitic corporation tax rates while relying on the British to defend them. Get tae fuck
They should take a leaf out of your guys’ book.
The fact you felt the need to respond to that with whataboutism says a lot about you.
Basically far too many Celtic and Rangers supporters are hateful morons. Scottish football in Glasgow is still a cesspit. It reflects badly on the city and country.
Sorry, I forgot that only gammony old reactionaries who don’t live in Scotland are allowed to expostulate on Scottish football on PB.
Also interested to be told that Rangers fans have a fetish for Prussian uniforms c. 1870. That badge looked a lot more modern to me, but what do I know? I'm not a fitba-mad weegie. Or fitba mad anything.
Wouldnt worry about it, its just a function of Scotlands failing education system.
I'm struck by the notion that one needs to have Highers in What Glaswegian Football Team to Support and Why, as well. That went out of the window decades ago, so if it is 'failing' that's fine with me.
Phhh
Modern Scotland - no ambition
any way here's a scotsman wearing a totenkopf hussar cap
In Tehran, people gathered in Palestine Square on Saturday to set off fireworks and celebrate Hamas’s attack on Israel.
NY Times blog
It may just be a negative reporting feedback loop, but it does kind of feel as though the world is slipping back into one of much more overt and simplistic state actions and reactions, including as seen in the last few years open wars of conquest with only the barest figleaf of other motivations. Like an amount of pretence is being removed from our system, which some might argue makes things more honest, but it also reducing the ability to even diplomatically realpolitikally not respond, as there is no cover for that.
That’s incredibly sad. Innocent people always pay the price .
Yes, and likely to do so again:
"A very long line of Israeli tanks is heading south. Local media say the start of a ground offensive into Gaza is imminent. Israeli PM earlier warned Palestinian to leave Gaza saying the country’s army will turn Gaza into 'ruined islands.'"
That’s incredibly sad. Innocent people always pay the price .
Yes, and likely to do so again:
"A very long line of Israeli tanks is heading south. Local media say the start of a ground offensive into Gaza is imminent. Israeli PM earlier warned Palestinian to leave Gaza saying the country’s army will turn Gaza into 'ruined islands.'"
That’s incredibly sad. Innocent people always pay the price .
Yes, and likely to do so again:
"A very long line of Israeli tanks is heading south. Local media say the start of a ground offensive into Gaza is imminent. Israeli PM earlier warned Palestinian to leave Gaza saying the country’s army will turn Gaza into 'ruined islands.'"
Sometimes I wonder whether Hamas has become a puppet organisation for Netanyahu. The timing of this is perfect, just as he was facing a popular revolt at home up pops Hamas with exactly what he needs to cling onto power.
So you're saying the intelligence "failures" were intentional?
So, the cunning Labour plan is to flog the galley slaves a bit harder.
(Looks up the number of that NZ headhunter that made contact last year...)
Look, we'll all be fine once AI doctors come in along with drone surgeons and the like.
Yes, a lot of people are going to die from early bugs with the systems, but in the long run that may be less than the number dying from bugs spread by human staff, and the 24/7 nature of the treatment will see overall efficiency gains viz a viz all the suffering from long waits and inability to speak to a physician.
It will be genuinely interesting to see how the placebo effect works, if at all, with Robodoc as opposed to the Drs Foxies.
Some people completely buy into AI or even just computer systems being completely correct, even when obviously wrong, so could be a positive effect, remarkably.
That’s incredibly sad. Innocent people always pay the price .
Yes, and likely to do so again:
"A very long line of Israeli tanks is heading south. Local media say the start of a ground offensive into Gaza is imminent. Israeli PM earlier warned Palestinian to leave Gaza saying the country’s army will turn Gaza into 'ruined islands.'"
That’s incredibly sad. Innocent people always pay the price .
Yes, and likely to do so again:
"A very long line of Israeli tanks is heading south. Local media say the start of a ground offensive into Gaza is imminent. Israeli PM earlier warned Palestinian to leave Gaza saying the country’s army will turn Gaza into 'ruined islands.'"
So, the cunning Labour plan is to flog the galley slaves a bit harder.
(Looks up the number of that NZ headhunter that made contact last year...)
Look, we'll all be fine once AI doctors come in along with drone surgeons and the like.
Yes, a lot of people are going to die from early bugs with the systems, but in the long run that may be less than the number dying from bugs spread by human staff, and the 24/7 nature of the treatment will see overall efficiency gains viz a viz all the suffering from long waits and inability to speak to a physician.
It will be genuinely interesting to see how the placebo effect works, if at all, with Robodoc as opposed to the Drs Foxies.
Some people completely buy into AI or even just computer systems being completely correct, even when obviously wrong, so could be a positive effect, remarkably.
I was wondering that, too. Some folk might think it great - others will be the opposite.
I do wonder if Robodoc will be so easily wheedled into prescribing unnecessary antibiotics, etc. etc.
On that Israeli intelligence failure: Here’s a stray thought: Perhaps one of the reasons for it was Edward Snowden’s theft of America’s secrets. I have been reading Edward Jay Epstein’s book on the theft and he concludes that Snowden definitely made us — and our friends and allies — more vulnerable to terrorists by revealing many of our secrets. https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/547346/how-america-lost-its-secrets-by-edward-jay-epstein/
Unless America's secrets included the names of all Mossad's agents in Iran and Gaza, it seems a stretch.
That’s incredibly sad. Innocent people always pay the price .
Yes, and likely to do so again:
"A very long line of Israeli tanks is heading south. Local media say the start of a ground offensive into Gaza is imminent. Israeli PM earlier warned Palestinian to leave Gaza saying the country’s army will turn Gaza into 'ruined islands.'"
That’s incredibly sad. Innocent people always pay the price .
Yes, and likely to do so again:
"A very long line of Israeli tanks is heading south. Local media say the start of a ground offensive into Gaza is imminent. Israeli PM earlier warned Palestinian to leave Gaza saying the country’s army will turn Gaza into 'ruined islands.'"
That’s incredibly sad. Innocent people always pay the price .
Yes, and likely to do so again:
"A very long line of Israeli tanks is heading south. Local media say the start of a ground offensive into Gaza is imminent. Israeli PM earlier warned Palestinian to leave Gaza saying the country’s army will turn Gaza into 'ruined islands.'"
That’s incredibly sad. Innocent people always pay the price .
Yes, and likely to do so again:
"A very long line of Israeli tanks is heading south. Local media say the start of a ground offensive into Gaza is imminent. Israeli PM earlier warned Palestinian to leave Gaza saying the country’s army will turn Gaza into 'ruined islands.'"
I see Celtic fans covered themselves in glory today:
Sinn Fein are doing the same on Twitter
What is wrong with them? The idea that the Irish or the Catholic Scots are oppressed like the Palestinians is as juvenile as it is embarrassing. This is Ireland which is entirely free and stable and has got rich from parasitic corporation tax rates while relying on the British to defend them. Get tae fuck
They should take a leaf out of your guys’ book.
The fact you felt the need to respond to that with whataboutism says a lot about you.
Basically far too many Celtic and Rangers supporters are hateful morons. Scottish football in Glasgow is still a cesspit. It reflects badly on the city and country.
Sorry, I forgot that only gammony old reactionaries who don’t live in Scotland are allowed to expostulate on Scottish football on PB.
Also interested to be told that Rangers fans have a fetish for Prussian uniforms c. 1870. That badge looked a lot more modern to me, but what do I know? I'm not a fitba-mad weegie. Or fitba mad anything.
Wouldnt worry about it, its just a function of Scotlands failing education system.
I'm struck by the notion that one needs to have Highers in What Glaswegian Football Team to Support and Why, as well. That went out of the window decades ago, so if it is 'failing' that's fine with me.
Phhh
Modern Scotland - no ambition
any way here's a scotsman wearing a totenkopf hussar cap
That’s incredibly sad. Innocent people always pay the price .
Yes, and likely to do so again:
"A very long line of Israeli tanks is heading south. Local media say the start of a ground offensive into Gaza is imminent. Israeli PM earlier warned Palestinian to leave Gaza saying the country’s army will turn Gaza into 'ruined islands.'"
That’s incredibly sad. Innocent people always pay the price .
Yes, and likely to do so again:
"A very long line of Israeli tanks is heading south. Local media say the start of a ground offensive into Gaza is imminent. Israeli PM earlier warned Palestinian to leave Gaza saying the country’s army will turn Gaza into 'ruined islands.'"
What is wrong with them? The idea that the Irish or the Catholic Scots are oppressed like the Palestinians is as juvenile as it is embarrassing. This is Ireland which is entirely free and stable and has got rich from parasitic corporation tax rates while relying on the British to defend them. Get tae fuck
This has been going on for some decades. Since the 1980's(?) the Unionists and Republicans have separated on Israel/Palestine grounds. The (Irish) Republicans saw an analogy between the Plantation of Ulster and the building of Israeli settler towns in the Palestinian territories, or even the establishment of Israel. The inevitable sortition followed.
[EDIT: I see @Alanbrooke got there before me. Must type faster ]
I know the history, but at this late stage it is utterly wanky and cringe
I guess Celtic (and Rangers) have the excuse that they are mere football fans, a group of people not known for their maturity. It is worse from Sinn Fein, an actual governing party
Says the very mature bloke whose first reaction to a flare up in the Israel Palestine conflict was to parse the response of the leader of the SNP and find it wanting.
That really was not my first reaction to the Hamas thing. More like my 3.498th
I've been commenting on this all day (go see). I'm having a binge on PB
Back to work tomorrow
Ok well I'll have to take your word for that. I just dropped in a few hours ago and it was 'Bartholomew' going full bore Melanie Phillips on the whole thing and you intensely involved with the rather esoteric Humza Yousaf angle. Scared me off.
That’s incredibly sad. Innocent people always pay the price .
Yes, and likely to do so again:
"A very long line of Israeli tanks is heading south. Local media say the start of a ground offensive into Gaza is imminent. Israeli PM earlier warned Palestinian to leave Gaza saying the country’s army will turn Gaza into 'ruined islands.'"
Hmmm...with all the strong views about Israel and Palestine on here tonight I realise I don't know nearly enough about the history and origins of the conflict.
Can anyone point me to a balanced history of it? A book preferably, but podcasts and/or films too.
That’s incredibly sad. Innocent people always pay the price .
Yes, and likely to do so again:
"A very long line of Israeli tanks is heading south. Local media say the start of a ground offensive into Gaza is imminent. Israeli PM earlier warned Palestinian to leave Gaza saying the country’s army will turn Gaza into 'ruined islands.'"
I see Celtic fans covered themselves in glory today:
Sinn Fein are doing the same on Twitter
What is wrong with them? The idea that the Irish or the Catholic Scots are oppressed like the Palestinians is as juvenile as it is embarrassing. This is Ireland which is entirely free and stable and has got rich from parasitic corporation tax rates while relying on the British to defend them. Get tae fuck
They should take a leaf out of your guys’ book.
The fact you felt the need to respond to that with whataboutism says a lot about you.
Basically far too many Celtic and Rangers supporters are hateful morons. Scottish football in Glasgow is still a cesspit. It reflects badly on the city and country.
Sorry, I forgot that only gammony old reactionaries who don’t live in Scotland are allowed to expostulate on Scottish football on PB.
Also interested to be told that Rangers fans have a fetish for Prussian uniforms c. 1870. That badge looked a lot more modern to me, but what do I know? I'm not a fitba-mad weegie. Or fitba mad anything.
Wouldnt worry about it, its just a function of Scotlands failing education system.
I'm struck by the notion that one needs to have Highers in What Glaswegian Football Team to Support and Why, as well. That went out of the window decades ago, so if it is 'failing' that's fine with me.
Phhh
Modern Scotland - no ambition
any way here's a scotsman wearing a totenkopf hussar cap
That’s incredibly sad. Innocent people always pay the price .
Yes, and likely to do so again:
"A very long line of Israeli tanks is heading south. Local media say the start of a ground offensive into Gaza is imminent. Israeli PM earlier warned Palestinian to leave Gaza saying the country’s army will turn Gaza into 'ruined islands.'"
That’s incredibly sad. Innocent people always pay the price .
Yes, and likely to do so again:
"A very long line of Israeli tanks is heading south. Local media say the start of a ground offensive into Gaza is imminent. Israeli PM earlier warned Palestinian to leave Gaza saying the country’s army will turn Gaza into 'ruined islands.'"
That’s incredibly sad. Innocent people always pay the price .
Yes, and likely to do so again:
"A very long line of Israeli tanks is heading south. Local media say the start of a ground offensive into Gaza is imminent. Israeli PM earlier warned Palestinian to leave Gaza saying the country’s army will turn Gaza into 'ruined islands.'"
That’s incredibly sad. Innocent people always pay the price .
Yes, and likely to do so again:
"A very long line of Israeli tanks is heading south. Local media say the start of a ground offensive into Gaza is imminent. Israeli PM earlier warned Palestinian to leave Gaza saying the country’s army will turn Gaza into 'ruined islands.'"
Gaza is one of the most crowded parts of the world. There is no place for the 2 million inhabitants to go to.
Their fault. They back Hamas and they provide the foot soldiers.
You reap what you sow.
You could say that regarding Israel's refusal to brook Palestinian independence.
Why grant independence to a people / nation whose whole intention is to destroy you?
After all, the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem was very happy backing Hitler in World War II because of Hitler's hatred towards the Jews.
Hey, but if you want to back the Grand Mufti's ideological successors, that is up to you....
Does Israel recognise the right of a Palestinian state to exist?
Do Palestinians recognise the right of Israel to exist?
Does Israel recognise the right of a Palestinian state to exist?
Do Palestinians recognise the right of Israel to exist?
Does Israel recognise the right of a Palestinian state to exist?
What is your view on civilians being snatched off the street, raped and then killed Sunil? Willing to condemn or of far less interest than a train ride to nowhere?
Sometimes I wonder whether Hamas has become a puppet organisation for Netanyahu. The timing of this is perfect, just as he was facing a popular revolt at home up pops Hamas with exactly what he needs to cling onto power.
It also benefits Iran, which also has a mutinous populace, now distracted by war abroad. And it benefits Shia Muslim jihadists everywhere, fearful that Israel was about to make a long term peace with Sunni Saudi Arabia
The people it really DOES not benefit are the raped, kidnapped and murdered Israelis of today, and the thousands of Gazans who will die in the weeks ahead. What a black, tragic, horrible mess
Some people you can just not deal with ever. Hamas are those people.
Crush them (Hamas). Crush them so they never come back.
And once that is done, the world needs to deal with Iran, a nation whose leaders are just pure evil.
Hamas have, today, shown that they are no better than ISIS. Defiling the raped bodies of women, spitting on their corpses as they exult and shriek Allahu Akhbar. It is all the same perverse and diabolical pathology: the hatred, sadism and misogyny, rolled into one murderous Islamist rage
They need to be exterminated as ISIS were exterminated. Hunt them down forever, drive them into the sea
That’s incredibly sad. Innocent people always pay the price .
Yes, and likely to do so again:
"A very long line of Israeli tanks is heading south. Local media say the start of a ground offensive into Gaza is imminent. Israeli PM earlier warned Palestinian to leave Gaza saying the country’s army will turn Gaza into 'ruined islands.'"
I see Celtic fans covered themselves in glory today:
Sinn Fein are doing the same on Twitter
What is wrong with them? The idea that the Irish or the Catholic Scots are oppressed like the Palestinians is as juvenile as it is embarrassing. This is Ireland which is entirely free and stable and has got rich from parasitic corporation tax rates while relying on the British to defend them. Get tae fuck
They should take a leaf out of your guys’ book.
The fact you felt the need to respond to that with whataboutism says a lot about you.
Basically far too many Celtic and Rangers supporters are hateful morons. Scottish football in Glasgow is still a cesspit. It reflects badly on the city and country.
Sorry, I forgot that only gammony old reactionaries who don’t live in Scotland are allowed to expostulate on Scottish football on PB.
Also interested to be told that Rangers fans have a fetish for Prussian uniforms c. 1870. That badge looked a lot more modern to me, but what do I know? I'm not a fitba-mad weegie. Or fitba mad anything.
Wouldnt worry about it, its just a function of Scotlands failing education system.
I'm struck by the notion that one needs to have Highers in What Glaswegian Football Team to Support and Why, as well. That went out of the window decades ago, so if it is 'failing' that's fine with me.
Phhh
Modern Scotland - no ambition
any way here's a scotsman wearing a totenkopf hussar cap
Sometimes I wonder whether Hamas has become a puppet organisation for Netanyahu. The timing of this is perfect, just as he was facing a popular revolt at home up pops Hamas with exactly what he needs to cling onto power.
It also benefits Iran, which also has a mutinous populace, now distracted by war abroad. And it benefits Shia Muslim jihadists everywhere, fearful that Israel was about to make a long term peace with Sunni Saudi Arabia
The people it really DOES not benefit are the raped, kidnapped and murdered Israelis of today, and the thousands of Gazans who will die in the weeks ahead. What a black, tragic, horrible mess
Some people you can just not deal with ever. Hamas are those people.
Crush them (Hamas). Crush them so they never come back.
And once that is done, the world needs to deal with Iran, a nation whose leaders are just pure evil.
Hamas have, today, shown that they are no better than ISIS. Defiling the raped bodies of women, spitting on their corpses as they exult and shriek Allahu Akhbar. It is all the same perverse and diabolical pathology: the hatred, sadism and misogyny, rolled into one murderous Islamist rage
They need to be exterminated as ISIS were exterminated. Hunt them down forever, drive them into the sea
I am sure Sunil will be on here soon to say how they are misunderstood and they are not to blame.
That’s incredibly sad. Innocent people always pay the price .
Yes, and likely to do so again:
"A very long line of Israeli tanks is heading south. Local media say the start of a ground offensive into Gaza is imminent. Israeli PM earlier warned Palestinian to leave Gaza saying the country’s army will turn Gaza into 'ruined islands.'"
Gaza is one of the most crowded parts of the world. There is no place for the 2 million inhabitants to go to.
Their fault. They back Hamas and they provide the foot soldiers.
You reap what you sow.
I get it.
Women and children are not innocent if they are Palestinian.
I hadn't realised it was so simple. Thank you for enlightening me.
Look at the videos. Women and children were cheering the attacks.
Same as with post-9/11, where there were women and children cheering the attacks.
Being a women doesn't make you innocent you know.
Were all 2.3 million cheering, or might there be an element who are innocent?, yet trapped in a slum city of 2 million riddled with tunnels and booby traps that Bini has threatened to turn into another Bakhmut.
That’s incredibly sad. Innocent people always pay the price .
Yes, and likely to do so again:
"A very long line of Israeli tanks is heading south. Local media say the start of a ground offensive into Gaza is imminent. Israeli PM earlier warned Palestinian to leave Gaza saying the country’s army will turn Gaza into 'ruined islands.'"
Gaza is one of the most crowded parts of the world. There is no place for the 2 million inhabitants to go to.
Their fault. They back Hamas and they provide the foot soldiers.
You reap what you sow.
You could say that regarding Israel's refusal to brook Palestinian independence.
Why grant independence to a people / nation whose whole intention is to destroy you?
After all, the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem was very happy backing Hitler in World War II because of Hitler's hatred towards the Jews.
Hey, but if you want to back the Grand Mufti's ideological successors, that is up to you....
Does Israel recognise the right of a Palestinian state to exist?
Do Palestinians recognise the right of Israel to exist?
Does Israel recognise the right of a Palestinian state to exist?
Do Palestinians recognise the right of Israel to exist?
Does Israel recognise the right of a Palestinian state to exist?
What is your view on civilians being snatched off the street, raped and then killed Sunil? Willing to condemn or of far less interest than a train ride to nowhere?
Yes I would condemn that most vigorously. But collective punishment is not the answer. Not all Palestinians are rapists, agree?
I see Celtic fans covered themselves in glory today:
Sinn Fein are doing the same on Twitter
What is wrong with them? The idea that the Irish or the Catholic Scots are oppressed like the Palestinians is as juvenile as it is embarrassing. This is Ireland which is entirely free and stable and has got rich from parasitic corporation tax rates while relying on the British to defend them. Get tae fuck
Thanks. Still doesn't explain the 936, unless it is a numerological thing = ICF which might be Inter-City Firm for want of any better guess.
Yes: 936 means ICF means Inter-City Firm.
Bonus question: which ICF came first - Rangers or West Ham?
As for the skull, is it really a Nazi reference or is it a reference to freemasonry, perhaps even Templar flavoured. This is Rangers after all.
The Skull and Bones at Yale call themselves Order 322, a reference to the year BCE that Demosthenes died.
The Totenkopf is a cap badge from a Prussian Hussar regiment
That's recent compared to the use of the S&C in Scotland.
Perhaps the hardest nuts among Rangers supporters can keep the skull (an ugly symbol), and when Extinction Rebellion update the diagonal lines of their hourglass they can turn them into crossbones. That's if Elon Musk doesn't beat them to it by going steampunk when he rebrands his X.
That’s incredibly sad. Innocent people always pay the price .
Yes, and likely to do so again:
"A very long line of Israeli tanks is heading south. Local media say the start of a ground offensive into Gaza is imminent. Israeli PM earlier warned Palestinian to leave Gaza saying the country’s army will turn Gaza into 'ruined islands.'"
Sometimes I wonder whether Hamas has become a puppet organisation for Netanyahu. The timing of this is perfect, just as he was facing a popular revolt at home up pops Hamas with exactly what he needs to cling onto power.
It also benefits Iran, which also has a mutinous populace, now distracted by war abroad. And it benefits Shia Muslim jihadists everywhere, fearful that Israel was about to make a long term peace with Sunni Saudi Arabia
The people it really DOES not benefit are the raped, kidnapped and murdered Israelis of today, and the thousands of Gazans who will die in the weeks ahead. What a black, tragic, horrible mess
Some people you can just not deal with ever. Hamas are those people.
Crush them (Hamas). Crush them so they never come back.
And once that is done, the world needs to deal with Iran, a nation whose leaders are just pure evil.
Hamas have, today, shown that they are no better than ISIS. Defiling the raped bodies of women, spitting on their corpses as they exult and shriek Allahu Akhbar. It is all the same perverse and diabolical pathology: the hatred, sadism and misogyny, rolled into one murderous Islamist rage
They need to be exterminated as ISIS were exterminated. Hunt them down forever, drive them into the sea
I am sure Sunil will be on here soon to say how they are misunderstood and they are not to blame.
Yes I would condemn heinous acts most vigorously. But collective punishment is not the answer. Not all Palestinians are rapists, agree?
That’s incredibly sad. Innocent people always pay the price .
Yes, and likely to do so again:
"A very long line of Israeli tanks is heading south. Local media say the start of a ground offensive into Gaza is imminent. Israeli PM earlier warned Palestinian to leave Gaza saying the country’s army will turn Gaza into 'ruined islands.'"
Gaza is one of the most crowded parts of the world. There is no place for the 2 million inhabitants to go to.
Their fault. They back Hamas and they provide the foot soldiers.
You reap what you sow.
You could say that regarding Israel's refusal to brook Palestinian independence.
Why grant independence to a people / nation whose whole intention is to destroy you?
After all, the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem was very happy backing Hitler in World War II because of Hitler's hatred towards the Jews.
Hey, but if you want to back the Grand Mufti's ideological successors, that is up to you....
Does Israel recognise the right of a Palestinian state to exist?
Do Palestinians recognise the right of Israel to exist?
Does Israel recognise the right of a Palestinian state to exist?
Do Palestinians recognise the right of Israel to exist?
Does Israel recognise the right of a Palestinian state to exist?
What is your view on civilians being snatched off the street, raped and then killed Sunil? Willing to condemn or of far less interest than a train ride to nowhere?
Yes I would condemn that most vigorously. But collective punishment is not the answer. Not all Palestinians are rapists, agree?
Absolutely not. And not all Israelis support Palestinians being locked down and some believe the Palestinians deserve a fairer deal.
So why does Hamas treat all Israelis as though they are hard-line fanatics?
(Answer - because Hamas fundamentally hates all Jews)
Sometimes I wonder whether Hamas has become a puppet organisation for Netanyahu. The timing of this is perfect, just as he was facing a popular revolt at home up pops Hamas with exactly what he needs to cling onto power.
Little known but Hamas was helped to form by Israel.
That’s incredibly sad. Innocent people always pay the price .
Yes, and likely to do so again:
"A very long line of Israeli tanks is heading south. Local media say the start of a ground offensive into Gaza is imminent. Israeli PM earlier warned Palestinian to leave Gaza saying the country’s army will turn Gaza into 'ruined islands.'"
That’s incredibly sad. Innocent people always pay the price .
Yes, and likely to do so again:
"A very long line of Israeli tanks is heading south. Local media say the start of a ground offensive into Gaza is imminent. Israeli PM earlier warned Palestinian to leave Gaza saying the country’s army will turn Gaza into 'ruined islands.'"
Gaza is one of the most crowded parts of the world. There is no place for the 2 million inhabitants to go to.
Their fault. They back Hamas and they provide the foot soldiers.
You reap what you sow.
I get it.
Women and children are not innocent if they are Palestinian.
I hadn't realised it was so simple. Thank you for enlightening me.
Look at the videos. Women and children were cheering the attacks.
Same as with post-9/11, where there were women and children cheering the attacks.
Being a women doesn't make you innocent you know.
Were all 2.3 million cheering, or might there be an element who are innocent?, yet trapped in a slum city of 2 million riddled with tunnels and booby traps that Bini has threatened to turn into another Bakhmut.
Maybe 10%, maybe 90%, who knows?
There almost certainly will be an element who will be innocent.
Just as there were Germans in 1944/45 who opposed Hitler. But the Allies - rightly - did not see that as a reason to not attack Germany. They realised the greater evil had to be defeated.
The greater evil here - Hamas - needs to be defeated.
That’s incredibly sad. Innocent people always pay the price .
Yes, and likely to do so again:
"A very long line of Israeli tanks is heading south. Local media say the start of a ground offensive into Gaza is imminent. Israeli PM earlier warned Palestinian to leave Gaza saying the country’s army will turn Gaza into 'ruined islands.'"
That’s incredibly sad. Innocent people always pay the price .
Yes, and likely to do so again:
"A very long line of Israeli tanks is heading south. Local media say the start of a ground offensive into Gaza is imminent. Israeli PM earlier warned Palestinian to leave Gaza saying the country’s army will turn Gaza into 'ruined islands.'"
Gaza is one of the most crowded parts of the world. There is no place for the 2 million inhabitants to go to.
Their fault. They back Hamas and they provide the foot soldiers.
You reap what you sow.
You could say that regarding Israel's refusal to brook Palestinian independence.
Why grant independence to a people / nation whose whole intention is to destroy you?
After all, the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem was very happy backing Hitler in World War II because of Hitler's hatred towards the Jews.
Hey, but if you want to back the Grand Mufti's ideological successors, that is up to you....
You've just called a whole nation of people genocidalists, offering as your premise the fact that 80 years ago a British-appointed religious official who had the same nationality became pro-Nazi. If that's not hate speech, I don't know what is.
Out of interest, what would your attitude be nowadays if you yourself were Palestinian, let's say living in Gaza or the West Bank?
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It has a white six point star one for each county.
Bonus question: which ICF came first - Rangers or West Ham?
As for the skull, is it really a Nazi reference or is it a reference to freemasonry, perhaps even Templar flavoured? This is Rangers after all.
The Skull and Bones at Yale call themselves Order 322, a reference to the year BCE that Demosthenes died.
There is a kind of weirdness about a ban on the skull and crossbones symbol. It's not even banned in Germany, although known Nazi symbols are.
In which case they're gold dust.
Labour will cut waiting lists and beat the Tory backlog.
We’ll deliver 2 million more appointments a year at evenings and weekends.
Faster care for patients.
Better pay for staff.
That’s Labour’s plan"
https://twitter.com/wesstreeting/status/1710759392079925491?t=NuyX2JkAqsSCLaFtqPmYww&s=19
So, the cunning Labour plan is to flog the galley slaves a bit harder.
(Looks up the number of that NZ headhunter that made contact last year...)
No I don't live in Scotland, but my mother is Glaswegian and I have a lot of Scottish relatives, so I'm well aware of what a cancer sectarianism is and I don't find it funny or acceptable in any circumstances. That it still goes on is a disgrace for Scottish football and the whole country.
30-year-old Shani Louk was a German citizen visiting Israel to attend the music festival for peace held near the Gaza border fence.
https://x.com/visegrad24/status/1710757415388414307
Pence slams Trump, GOP ‘voices of appeasement’ as Israel comes under attack
The former vice president called out Donald Trump, Ron DeSantis and Vivek Ramaswamy by name.
https://www.politico.com/news/2023/10/07/gop-presidential-hopefuls-reaffirm-support-for-israel-following-hamas-attack-00120481
Just to frank your credentials, do you prefer Tunnock’s teacakes or caramel logs?
"the biggest challenge to Israel since 1973" as Bethan McKernan calls it in the Guardian,
"the most significant military challenge to Israel in 50 years" as Bel Trew calls it in the Independent.
Basically that's what the journalists are saying.
Government and opposition figures are saying the usual, that Israel has a right to defend itself.
Netanyahu was trying to whack the judiciary, a branch of the state that presumably he wants to find him not guilty in his corruption trial.
That's all out the window now. Yair Lapid rather than opposing is saying he'll serve in a GONU, which he may well soon do. And he means under Netanyahu. One thing's for certain: Netanyahu is not about to do what Peter Carrington did wrt the Falklands.
The people it really DOES not benefit are the raped, kidnapped and murdered Israelis of today, and the thousands of Gazans who will die in the weeks ahead. What a black, tragic, horrible mess
You aren't worth engaging with at all.
I've been commenting on this all day (go see). I'm having a binge on PB
Back to work tomorrow
"I do increasingly resemble one of those medieval kings who execute their jesters for being insufficiently diverting."
https://www.ft.com/content/de6bc685-eedd-4a46-bd9b-5e6a607111c5
"The evil of banality
People have never been better-educated, or less original"
Modern Scotland - no ambition
any way here's a scotsman wearing a totenkopf hussar cap
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/August_von_Mackensen
Crush them (Hamas). Crush them so they never come back.
And once that is done, the world needs to deal with Iran, a nation whose leaders are just pure evil.
God is Great? Really? Do you think God wants you to do that to an innocent young woman? Does that make your God even greater?
The mists of red anger descend
https://news.yahoo.com/kaleidoscope-flags-marks-belfasts-sectarian-fault-lines-104446992.html
"A very long line of Israeli tanks is heading south. Local media say the start of a ground offensive into Gaza is imminent. Israeli PM earlier warned Palestinian to leave Gaza saying the country’s army will turn Gaza into 'ruined islands.'"
https://twitter.com/sorankhateri/status/1710760639847645515?t=RzrQiGYeAUvQoZ1OTPffRQ&s=19
VOA Middle East Correspondent.
Gaza is one of the most crowded parts of the world. There is no place for the 2 million inhabitants to go to.
https://www.1cor.com/london/barristers/marina-wheeler-kc/
Yes, a lot of people are going to die from early bugs with the systems, but in the long run that may be less than the number dying from bugs spread by human staff, and the 24/7 nature of the treatment will see overall efficiency gains viz a viz all the suffering from long waits and inability to speak to a physician.
NY Times blog
For the Irish republicans of that epoch and in the 1970s the feeling of solidarity with the Palestinians was also about belonging to a movement half of which was in prison.
In the 1960s the fellow feeling was with the civil rights movement in the USA, and the loyalists were Jim Crow fans.
But it is a white six point star one for each county nothing to do with the star of David.
On the other hand maybe you just believe the Jews The Jews they control everything.
You reap what you sow.
Women and children are not innocent if they are Palestinian.
I hadn't realised it was so simple. Thank you for enlightening me.
After all, the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem was very happy backing Hitler in World War II because of Hitler's hatred towards the Jews.
Hey, but if you want to back the Grand Mufti's ideological successors, that is up to you....
Finally. Some kick-back from the GOP against the Cult from someone not named Mitt or related to Dick Cheney.
I do wonder if Robodoc will be so easily wheedled into prescribing unnecessary antibiotics, etc. etc.
Same as with post-9/11, where there were women and children cheering the attacks.
Being a women doesn't make you innocent you know.
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So why complain about it when you are hit back hard.
Mind you, given the Scottish Nationalists were rather pally with the Nazis in the 1930s, such a comment from yourself is only to be expected...
Or Hamas deliberately targeting that celebration, to make a point? (That's my first guess.)
Can anyone point me to a balanced history of it? A book preferably, but podcasts and/or films too.
Thanks.
Has Hamas militants raped, kidnapped, mutilated and killed civilians today on a Jewish holiday?
How about if such things happened on Eid or Ramadan? The screams of outrage would be immense
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I sat down with the Godfather of New Labour Peter Mandelson on the eve of the party conference
I ask and what advice he gives Sir Keir Starmer to get into No10
His answer? "Make them (voters) an offer they can't refuse"
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How about "we will free you from this endless shitshow of clowns"?
They need to be exterminated as ISIS were exterminated. Hunt them down forever, drive them into the sea
Ill put it down to Scotland no longer does education.
Maybe 10%, maybe 90%, who knows?
Perhaps the hardest nuts among Rangers supporters can keep the skull (an ugly symbol), and when Extinction Rebellion update the diagonal lines of their hourglass they can turn them into crossbones. That's if Elon Musk doesn't beat them to it by going steampunk when he rebrands his X.
So why does Hamas treat all Israelis as though they are hard-line fanatics?
(Answer - because Hamas fundamentally hates all Jews)
https://theintercept.com/2018/02/19/hamas-israel-palestine-conflict/
"Cats Are Perfect. An Evolutionary Biologist Explains Why
Cats have attained evolutionary perfection
By Kate Wong
October 4, 2023"
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/cats-are-perfect-an-evolutionary-biologist-explains-why/
The Isle of Wight is slightly smaller than Rutland, at high tide. At low tide it’s larger.
Just as there were Germans in 1944/45 who opposed Hitler. But the Allies - rightly - did not see that as a reason to not attack Germany. They realised the greater evil had to be defeated.
The greater evil here - Hamas - needs to be defeated.
Cats are evil bastards
Out of interest, what would your attitude be nowadays if you yourself were Palestinian, let's say living in Gaza or the West Bank?
And if they did, would that change your mind on anything?
(As everyone should know, the Israelis have repeatedly begun negotiations that could have led to a two-state solution. As everyone should know, Hamas, unlike the PLO, has never even discussed the possibility.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two-state_solution#:~:text=The two-state solution to,west of the Jordan River.
American diplomats have tried hard for such a solution, perhaps mistakenly after Hamas took control of Gaza.)