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  • AnabobazinaAnabobazina Posts: 23,479
    edited July 2023
    kle4 said:

    viewcode said:

    Omnium said:

    kle4 said:

    Still never seen Airplane. I've seen in quoted so many times I've probably heard most of the movie anyway.

    But really the key question is what sorts of political movies would it be expected political anoraks will have watched, and has everyone indeed seen them?

    I remember watching The Iron Lady, and thinking it was pretty dull, but then that's generally the case with biopics, even of remarkable people (I also find Meryl Streep overrated - it may be unfair, but I'm always very aware its her in her films, rather than the character she is portraying).

    Good Political movies

    All the President's men
    Frost vs Nixon

    and of course Don's Party

    Nixon (Hopkins/Stone)
    The Parallax View
    All The Way (Cranston as LBJ)
    Path To War (Michael Gambon as LBJ)
    Good political film: Darkest Hour.
    Especially the Underground scene.
    Lol. That is a classic PB Tory trigger warning right there. Right up there with wild swimming, and cashless buses.

    Take cover!
  • GardenwalkerGardenwalker Posts: 21,277

    White Men Can't Jump
    Goodfellas
    Withnail And I
    The Blues Brothers
    Pulp Fiction
    The Commitments
    Dazed And Confused

    I think these are my favourite seven movies

    I know there are better made films with much better acting, but those are the ones I have enjoyed again and again as an adult

    Oh, and all the Monty Python films

    My favourites mostly seem to be romcoms, but there it is:

    Four Weddings and a Funeral
    Amelie
    Shakespeare in Love
    Pride & Prejudice (2005)
    Master and Commander
    Gravity
    Airplane
    How depressingly middle-brow.

    The only good ones there are M&C, Gravity and Airplane, while Amelie and P&P(05) are downright shite.
    Thank you for your kind comments ;-)
    Amelie is the pineapple-on-pizza of film.
    Sorry, I don’t make the rules.
    Fortunately you don't.

    Anyhow, I'll take 'depressingly middle-brow' from the man who chose The Sound of Music in his list, lol.
    A great film. Something for everyone.
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 21,823

    Sean_F said:

    Sean_F said:

    White Men Can't Jump
    Goodfellas
    Withnail And I
    The Blues Brothers
    Pulp Fiction
    The Commitments
    Dazed And Confused

    I think these are my favourite seven movies

    I know there are better made films with much better acting, but those are the ones I have enjoyed again and again as an adult

    Oh, and all the Monty Python films

    For me, the top ten are:

    Goodfellas
    Godfather I and II
    The Death of Stalin
    The Wolf of Wall Street
    The Last King of Scotland
    Some Like it Hot
    From Russia with Love
    Airplane
    Ruthless People.
    Very good list, but too Anglo.
    Fair enough. Among foreign films, I hugely enjoyed La Reine Margot, Jean de Florette, Manon des Sources, Satyricon (a very rare film which does depict a lot of what I think life was like in Ancient Rome) .

    Jean de Florette and Manon des Sources are brilliant. A must-see duo (or whatever the two equivalent of trilogy/quartet is).
    Diptych? Duology? Duet?
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 95,918
    viewcode said:

    I have never seen Die Hard.

    I basically saw no “action films” in the 80s because, well, I was a child, and my parents would let me watch them on VHS.

    And I never bothered to remedy that in the 90s.

    So I haven’t seen:

    Die Hard(s)
    Lethal Weapon(s)
    Alien(s)
    Predator(s)
    Terminator(s)
    Beverly Hills Cop
    or Rambos.

    I’ll get around to it some day.

    I like to think of myself as very unaffected by current 'woke' mores, but I re-watched Lethal Weapon on TV the other day and the way Riggs (Mel Gibson's character) carries on is very 'toxic male' - I felt dirty even as I thought this. Wouldn't stop me watching it mind. That series is 'OK' - hasn't aged brilliantly. Die Hard(s) until recent 'comebacks' are very good. Best of that bunch are the Alien(s).
    If you want to see a film that has aged BADLY, try “Manhattan”.

    Apparently this was beloved of film critics, until only about 10 years ago. But watching it in 2023, Allen comes across as a spoilt and unpleasant narcissist who seems to be using the entire film to indulge his own, slightly unsavoury sexual fantasies.
    Stanley Kubrick is a genius and I will say so to the end of time. But the verbal bullying he put Shelley Duvall thru to get that performance in the Shining does not sit well with me.

    Whilst he is an extreme example I'd hope things are better now, as it seems like there's plenty of examples in the industry of horrible bullying and harrassment (even of non sexual kinds) in the name of 'art', which the people themselves may wave off later.

    I mean, art can surely be a challenge sometimes, and very impactful on culture, but at the end of the day you're making movies, plays, whatever, calm the f*ck down.
  • PhilPhil Posts: 2,249
    dixiedean said:

    Phil said:

    Huw is one of the highest paid, previously most respected, newsreaders on the publicly owned broadcaster

    That doesn't just give him celebrity; it brings him authority and power too

    He's not just an ordinary guy with kinks

    He has abused his position - see the Beeb confirmed stories about his threats - he deserves to lose it

    If he has does anything illegal on top of that then he should be punished for it, if not: not

    But he shouldn't be forgiven his abuse of power, just because he's gone a bit nuts now

    Given his long history of depression “gone a bit nuts now” seems to minimise the reality of his situation a bit.

    But, at the same time, depression is not an excuse for bad behaviour of this kind. Especially when the perpetrator is wealthy enough to afford top flight private medical treatment.

    I think the Beeb has to sack him. This is gross misconduct & mental illness doesn’t excuse it.
    This is all difficult.
    Suppose it was a brain tumour? Does that excuse it?
    Probably? If you could reasonably claim that someone was not in control of their behaviour, then you might be able to plot a path to redemption. But in this case we have an established pattern of behaviour going back at least three years?

    Regardless, I’m going to drop this line of discussion as it seems a bit unseemly to keep picking at the scab.

    Die Hard is clearly a movie that happens at Christmas & is therefore a Christmas movie if you want it to be.
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 42,640
    viewcode said:

    Sean_F said:

    Sean_F said:

    White Men Can't Jump
    Goodfellas
    Withnail And I
    The Blues Brothers
    Pulp Fiction
    The Commitments
    Dazed And Confused

    I think these are my favourite seven movies

    I know there are better made films with much better acting, but those are the ones I have enjoyed again and again as an adult

    Oh, and all the Monty Python films

    For me, the top ten are:

    Goodfellas
    Godfather I and II
    The Death of Stalin
    The Wolf of Wall Street
    The Last King of Scotland
    Some Like it Hot
    From Russia with Love
    Airplane
    Ruthless People.
    Very good list, but too Anglo.
    Fair enough. Among foreign films, I hugely enjoyed La Reine Margot, Jean de Florette, Manon des Sources, Satyricon (a very rare film which does depict a lot of what I think life was like in Ancient Rome) .

    Jean de Florette and Manon des Sources are brilliant. A must-see duo (or whatever the two equivalent of trilogy/quartet is).
    Diptych? Duology? Duet?
    Pair.
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 34,595
    viewcode said:

    Sean_F said:

    Sean_F said:

    White Men Can't Jump
    Goodfellas
    Withnail And I
    The Blues Brothers
    Pulp Fiction
    The Commitments
    Dazed And Confused

    I think these are my favourite seven movies

    I know there are better made films with much better acting, but those are the ones I have enjoyed again and again as an adult

    Oh, and all the Monty Python films

    For me, the top ten are:

    Goodfellas
    Godfather I and II
    The Death of Stalin
    The Wolf of Wall Street
    The Last King of Scotland
    Some Like it Hot
    From Russia with Love
    Airplane
    Ruthless People.
    Very good list, but too Anglo.
    Fair enough. Among foreign films, I hugely enjoyed La Reine Margot, Jean de Florette, Manon des Sources, Satyricon (a very rare film which does depict a lot of what I think life was like in Ancient Rome) .

    Jean de Florette and Manon des Sources are brilliant. A must-see duo (or whatever the two equivalent of trilogy/quartet is).
    Diptych? Duology? Duet?
    I was trying to avoid 'a must-see pair'.
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 21,823
    Sean_F said:

    viewcode said:

    Omnium said:

    kle4 said:

    Still never seen Airplane. I've seen in quoted so many times I've probably heard most of the movie anyway.

    But really the key question is what sorts of political movies would it be expected political anoraks will have watched, and has everyone indeed seen them?

    I remember watching The Iron Lady, and thinking it was pretty dull, but then that's generally the case with biopics, even of remarkable people (I also find Meryl Streep overrated - it may be unfair, but I'm always very aware its her in her films, rather than the character she is portraying).

    Good Political movies

    All the President's men
    Frost vs Nixon

    and of course Don's Party

    Nixon (Hopkins/Stone)
    The Parallax View
    All The Way (Cranston as LBJ)
    Path To War (Michael Gambon as LBJ)
    A completely obscure, but very good one, is Power Play, with Donald Pleasance as an absolutely vile secret police chief. David Hemmings is the idealistic army officer who is talked into overthrowing a ruthless civilian dictatorship, and Peter O'Toole, the army officer who first supports the coup, then executes his fellow plotters.
    I've seen that! I enjoyed it thoroughly! David Hemmings saunters in and prepares to take control until Peter O'Toole quietly reminds him that he is surrounded by men with guns loyal to Peter and how does he propose to leave the room exactly?
  • AnabobazinaAnabobazina Posts: 23,479
    Carnyx said:

    viewcode said:

    Sean_F said:

    Sean_F said:

    White Men Can't Jump
    Goodfellas
    Withnail And I
    The Blues Brothers
    Pulp Fiction
    The Commitments
    Dazed And Confused

    I think these are my favourite seven movies

    I know there are better made films with much better acting, but those are the ones I have enjoyed again and again as an adult

    Oh, and all the Monty Python films

    For me, the top ten are:

    Goodfellas
    Godfather I and II
    The Death of Stalin
    The Wolf of Wall Street
    The Last King of Scotland
    Some Like it Hot
    From Russia with Love
    Airplane
    Ruthless People.
    Very good list, but too Anglo.
    Fair enough. Among foreign films, I hugely enjoyed La Reine Margot, Jean de Florette, Manon des Sources, Satyricon (a very rare film which does depict a lot of what I think life was like in Ancient Rome) .

    Jean de Florette and Manon des Sources are brilliant. A must-see duo (or whatever the two equivalent of trilogy/quartet is).
    Diptych? Duology? Duet?
    Pair.
    Couplet

    Brace

    ?
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 42,640
    No-one for Kurosawa, e.g. Kagemusha, Yojimbo, etc.?

    Pather Panchali?

    Or Walkabout or Ten Canoes?
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 49,611
    DougSeal said:

    -

    There was a very odd post this morning about the Sun “popping champagne”.

    But they’ve fucked this up, haven’t they?

    One does hope so.

    I can't bear the smug Edwards, but the Sun's vile sting operation has been truly evil.
    I cannot help but feel that if these revelations were coming out about Andrew Neil, or Jacob Rees Mogg, or the Duke of York, the PB-ers currently clutching their pearls about 'mental health', 'vile sting operation' etc. would be singing a somewhat different tune.
    Your feelings don’t count. Show us some evidence.
    Well, back when the tabloids were hunting Conservative cabinet ministers (for personal relationships) , I seem to recall anger from one side. I even recall one hilarious incident, when some gay activists were trying to out... Alan Duncan. It seemed to upset them more to be told that he was openly gay, and there was no outing to do. "But he's a Toorrrrrrryyyyyy!?"

    When the tabloids went after Labour cabinet ministers, strangely this changed to a Terrible Attack On Human dignity. With the other side doing the It's The Way Public Life Works bit.
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 34,595
    Carnyx said:

    No-one for Kurosawa, e.g. Kagemusha, Yojimbo, etc.?

    Pather Panchali?

    Or Walkabout or Ten Canoes?

    I've heard of just one of those. And that's a good film for sure.
  • kjhkjh Posts: 11,720
    Carnyx said:

    kjh said:

    Carnyx said:

    kjh said:

    Carnyx said:

    kjh said:

    Sean_F said:

    EPG said:

    Foxy said:

    EPG said:

    Sean_F said:

    Sean_F said:

    EPG said:

    Sean_F said:

    Unethical behaviour is not necessarily the same thing as illegal behaviour. I've been talking this over with my wife, who is an HR professional.

    Paying a drug addict, who is aged over 18, to provide sexually explict photos, on the part of somebody like a senior local government officer, would be considered an act of gross misconduct. The officer would be suspended, and in all likelihood be dismissed. He might well lose pension rights. He would not be getting away with the argument that "a good chap has the right to a private life." And, if some local rag reported the issue, attempts to blame the local rag would fall flat.

    Whether one hates The Sun or not, is immaterial. There is a public interest in reporting this story.

    Presumably "drug addict" is doing the work there, rather than making anyone who pays for OnlyFans eligible for loss of pension?
    It's the issue of bringing your employer into disrepute, if you're senior enough.

    About a decade ago, there was a guy who was Assistant Director of Housing at Hammersmith & Fulham. He had a Nazi fetish, and he liked posting pictures of himself online having sex with other Nazi fetishists. One of the tabloids reported the story to general mirth, but there was no question of the man keeping his job.
    Why?
    Given some of your posts, I’ve long suspected you of quite odd sexual fetishises, but I’d never dream that it ought to cost you your job.
    Fortunately, I'm self-employed. If I were a partner in a magic circle law firm, who did what is alleged here, I probably would be on my way out.
    Because partners are not employees with rights under law.

    Too many of your examples are irrelevant to the assertion that OnlyFans is grounds for summary dismissal. And, no, I wouldn't necessarily trust HR to know the law, especially when it protects the employee.
    As a point of fact, is there any evidence this took place on OnlyFans?
    I'm inquiring specifically about Sean_F's bare-bones scenario where gross misconduct includes paying for porn in one's own time, to a person who turns out to be an addict. No, I don't know much at all about the details of the current controversy.
    You can make the argument that the law goes too far in allowing employers to dismiss people for actions outside of the workplace that they say will bring them into disrepute.

    However, it is the case that employment law allows them considerable latitude to do so.
    I know a very good and capable 35-year old guy, who had a good career in project management of complex systems integration in the rail industry totally destroyed - forever - because he took cocaine at a party with some friends on a Sunday night, and was randomly drugs tested at 9.30am the next morning (it happens to a random pool once a year) and he got unlucky and it was still in his system.

    It's not my cup of tea but I thought that was a bit harsh. The problem with zero tolerance is that it really is zero tolerance.
    Agree. Not sure why an employer is drug testing at 9.30 in the morning someone who isn't behaving inappropriately at work unless they have a high level public facing role where disclosure of drug taking would bring their employer into disrepute.
    Random testing.
    I don't think they should be if they are doing their job properly and if disclosure wouldn't bring their employer into disrepute (ie if it wouldn't be news outside of the employer)
    Railway industry. Very sensitive to drugs, like schools are sensitive to any undue interest in underage persons.
    But surely commonsense applies. I don't want my train driver under the influence even if the slightest, so tests are fair enough. I don't give a toss if the porter had a session the night before provided he can do his job properly.
    Porter?! Where do you live, Buggleskelly?

    Organizations don't have time to apply minute distinctions - still less their employers or the employers' insurers. Especially if people find themselves dealing with safety critical functions (which can happen in the office just as much as in the cab).
    😁 I had to look up Buggleskelly. And I sort of do. We have a brilliant ticket clerk. The station is magnificent. Flowers everywhere. Puzzle and book exchange. And so much more. He brings in his dog to work and was told he wasn't allowed so decided he had to leave. Uproar in the village and then it hit the national press and TV and finally Grant Shapps intervened and told Network Rail to stop being stupid. They backed down. He (and his dog) are brilliant.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 49,611
    DougSeal said:

    Foxy said:

    I have never seen Die Hard.

    I basically saw no “action films” in the 80s because, well, I was a child, and my parents would let me watch them on VHS.

    And I never bothered to remedy that in the 90s.

    So I haven’t seen:

    Die Hard(s)
    Lethal Weapon(s)
    Alien(s)
    Predator(s)
    Terminator(s)
    Beverly Hills Cop
    or Rambos.

    I’ll get around to it some day.

    Neither Alien (sci-fi horror) nor Beverly Hills Cop (comedy) fit that category.

    Alien is excellent; BHC, amusing.
    Alien was late 70's wasn't it?

    I have never seen any of the Die Hards, nor Lethal Weapons, nor any Star Wars (apart from the original) nor any Star Trek (apart from the 1960's original), nor LoTR films, nor The Hobbit, nor any "Superhero" films.

    Action films are not really my cup of tea. I find special effects boring, and too often a substitute to cover up thin characterisation and plot.
    Star Trek 2: The Wrath of Khan is worth seeing even if you don’t like sci-fi. The characterisation and revenge plot are first class, and the ultimate space battle (through a plot contrivance) is more like a blind struggle between two WW2 submarines.
    It was basically stolen from Enemy Down Below.
  • CiceroCicero Posts: 3,067
    edited July 2023
    nico679 said:

    When will the Sun be providing proof that Edwards paid for the pics/videos?

    The police found no criminality . The Suns pathetic backtracking is vomit inducing and they’re now accusing other media outlets of misconstruing their original reports.

    Absolutely desperate stuff from this garbage excuse of a newspaper.

    Not sure that any Murdoch rag is much more than a propaganda pamphlet. The "BBC nest of perverts" issues is really shocking until you remember the dirty digger is on his fifth wife... frankly, the day the old b@!&%%£ croaks, I will open a bottle of fine malt.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 48,492
    Sean_F said:

    Sean_F said:

    White Men Can't Jump
    Goodfellas
    Withnail And I
    The Blues Brothers
    Pulp Fiction
    The Commitments
    Dazed And Confused

    I think these are my favourite seven movies

    I know there are better made films with much better acting, but those are the ones I have enjoyed again and again as an adult

    Oh, and all the Monty Python films

    For me, the top ten are:

    Goodfellas
    Godfather I and II
    The Death of Stalin
    The Wolf of Wall Street
    The Last King of Scotland
    Some Like it Hot
    From Russia with Love
    Airplane
    Ruthless People.
    Very good list, but too Anglo.
    Fair enough. Among foreign films, I hugely enjoyed La Reine Margot, Jean de Florette, Manon des Sources, Satyricon (a very rare film which does depict a lot of what I think life was like in Ancient Rome) .
    Babette's Feast (best film about food)

    In the Fog and Come and See (brilliant war films)

    A Girl Walks Home alone at Night (best Iranian skateboarding vampire western. Indeed possibly the only one...)


  • GardenwalkerGardenwalker Posts: 21,277
    Carnyx said:

    No-one for Kurosawa, e.g. Kagemusha, Yojimbo, etc.?

    Pather Panchali?

    Or Walkabout or Ten Canoes?

    Or Tarkovsky? Or Antonioni?

    You’ve just reminded me there is a Eustache retrospective at Lincoln Center which I need to get back to New York for.
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 34,595
    edited July 2023

    White Men Can't Jump
    Goodfellas
    Withnail And I
    The Blues Brothers
    Pulp Fiction
    The Commitments
    Dazed And Confused

    I think these are my favourite seven movies

    I know there are better made films with much better acting, but those are the ones I have enjoyed again and again as an adult

    Oh, and all the Monty Python films

    My favourites mostly seem to be romcoms, but there it is:

    Four Weddings and a Funeral
    Amelie
    Shakespeare in Love
    Pride & Prejudice (2005)
    Master and Commander
    Gravity
    Airplane
    How depressingly middle-brow.

    The only good ones there are M&C, Gravity and Airplane, while Amelie and P&P(05) are downright shite.
    Thank you for your kind comments ;-)
    Amelie is the pineapple-on-pizza of film.
    Sorry, I don’t make the rules.
    Fortunately you don't.

    Anyhow, I'll take 'depressingly middle-brow' from the man who chose The Sound of Music in his list, lol.
    A great film. Something for everyone.
    Cabaret knocks the pants off it. Come to think of it, why wasn't Cabaret in my list?
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 42,640
    viewcode said:

    Sean_F said:

    viewcode said:

    Omnium said:

    kle4 said:

    Still never seen Airplane. I've seen in quoted so many times I've probably heard most of the movie anyway.

    But really the key question is what sorts of political movies would it be expected political anoraks will have watched, and has everyone indeed seen them?

    I remember watching The Iron Lady, and thinking it was pretty dull, but then that's generally the case with biopics, even of remarkable people (I also find Meryl Streep overrated - it may be unfair, but I'm always very aware its her in her films, rather than the character she is portraying).

    Good Political movies

    All the President's men
    Frost vs Nixon

    and of course Don's Party

    Nixon (Hopkins/Stone)
    The Parallax View
    All The Way (Cranston as LBJ)
    Path To War (Michael Gambon as LBJ)
    A completely obscure, but very good one, is Power Play, with Donald Pleasance as an absolutely vile secret police chief. David Hemmings is the idealistic army officer who is talked into overthrowing a ruthless civilian dictatorship, and Peter O'Toole, the army officer who first supports the coup, then executes his fellow plotters.
    I've seen that! I enjoyed it thoroughly! David Hemmings saunters in and prepares to take control until Peter O'Toole quietly reminds him that he is surrounded by men with guns loyal to Peter and how does he propose to leave the room exactly?
    Didn't we discuss it recently? Basically the film of not the novel but the how-to book by Edward Luttwak, on how to stage a coup?
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 81,627
    BBC News - Boris Johnson early Covid WhatsApps still not passed to inquiry
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-66165001

    The dog eat my homework phone.....
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 34,595

    BBC News - Boris Johnson early Covid WhatsApps still not passed to inquiry
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-66165001

    The dog eat my homework phone.....

    ate
  • nico679nico679 Posts: 6,220
    edited July 2023
    Best foreign series .

    The Bridge
    Spiral
    The Killing

    Best foreign films

    The Lives of Others
    The Secret In Their Eyes the original Argentinian film and not the garbage US remake
    All About My Mother, Volver directed by Pedro Almodovar , the latter has a quite brilliant performance by Penelope Cruz , even better than her performance in All About My Mother .

  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 42,640
    kjh said:

    Carnyx said:

    kjh said:

    Carnyx said:

    kjh said:

    Carnyx said:

    kjh said:

    Sean_F said:

    EPG said:

    Foxy said:

    EPG said:

    Sean_F said:

    Sean_F said:

    EPG said:

    Sean_F said:

    Unethical behaviour is not necessarily the same thing as illegal behaviour. I've been talking this over with my wife, who is an HR professional.

    Paying a drug addict, who is aged over 18, to provide sexually explict photos, on the part of somebody like a senior local government officer, would be considered an act of gross misconduct. The officer would be suspended, and in all likelihood be dismissed. He might well lose pension rights. He would not be getting away with the argument that "a good chap has the right to a private life." And, if some local rag reported the issue, attempts to blame the local rag would fall flat.

    Whether one hates The Sun or not, is immaterial. There is a public interest in reporting this story.

    Presumably "drug addict" is doing the work there, rather than making anyone who pays for OnlyFans eligible for loss of pension?
    It's the issue of bringing your employer into disrepute, if you're senior enough.

    About a decade ago, there was a guy who was Assistant Director of Housing at Hammersmith & Fulham. He had a Nazi fetish, and he liked posting pictures of himself online having sex with other Nazi fetishists. One of the tabloids reported the story to general mirth, but there was no question of the man keeping his job.
    Why?
    Given some of your posts, I’ve long suspected you of quite odd sexual fetishises, but I’d never dream that it ought to cost you your job.
    Fortunately, I'm self-employed. If I were a partner in a magic circle law firm, who did what is alleged here, I probably would be on my way out.
    Because partners are not employees with rights under law.

    Too many of your examples are irrelevant to the assertion that OnlyFans is grounds for summary dismissal. And, no, I wouldn't necessarily trust HR to know the law, especially when it protects the employee.
    As a point of fact, is there any evidence this took place on OnlyFans?
    I'm inquiring specifically about Sean_F's bare-bones scenario where gross misconduct includes paying for porn in one's own time, to a person who turns out to be an addict. No, I don't know much at all about the details of the current controversy.
    You can make the argument that the law goes too far in allowing employers to dismiss people for actions outside of the workplace that they say will bring them into disrepute.

    However, it is the case that employment law allows them considerable latitude to do so.
    I know a very good and capable 35-year old guy, who had a good career in project management of complex systems integration in the rail industry totally destroyed - forever - because he took cocaine at a party with some friends on a Sunday night, and was randomly drugs tested at 9.30am the next morning (it happens to a random pool once a year) and he got unlucky and it was still in his system.

    It's not my cup of tea but I thought that was a bit harsh. The problem with zero tolerance is that it really is zero tolerance.
    Agree. Not sure why an employer is drug testing at 9.30 in the morning someone who isn't behaving inappropriately at work unless they have a high level public facing role where disclosure of drug taking would bring their employer into disrepute.
    Random testing.
    I don't think they should be if they are doing their job properly and if disclosure wouldn't bring their employer into disrepute (ie if it wouldn't be news outside of the employer)
    Railway industry. Very sensitive to drugs, like schools are sensitive to any undue interest in underage persons.
    But surely commonsense applies. I don't want my train driver under the influence even if the slightest, so tests are fair enough. I don't give a toss if the porter had a session the night before provided he can do his job properly.
    Porter?! Where do you live, Buggleskelly?

    Organizations don't have time to apply minute distinctions - still less their employers or the employers' insurers. Especially if people find themselves dealing with safety critical functions (which can happen in the office just as much as in the cab).
    😁 I had to look up Buggleskelly. And I sort of do. We have a brilliant ticket clerk. The station is magnificent. Flowers everywhere. Puzzle and book exchange. And so much more. He brings in his dog to work and was told he wasn't allowed so decided he had to leave. Uproar in the village and then it hit the national press and TV and finally Grant Shapps intervened and told Network Rail to stop being stupid. They backed down. He (and his dog) are brilliant.
    Fair enough - but remmber that even ticket clerks, indeed all rail staff, would have emergency duties.
  • AnabobazinaAnabobazina Posts: 23,479

    BBC News - Boris Johnson early Covid WhatsApps still not passed to inquiry
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-66165001

    The dog eat my homework phone.....

    ate
    I assumed Francis’ OP was an instruction
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 29,352
    Nobody yet mentioned Brazil as a movie. And a political movie, too.
  • GardenwalkerGardenwalker Posts: 21,277

    White Men Can't Jump
    Goodfellas
    Withnail And I
    The Blues Brothers
    Pulp Fiction
    The Commitments
    Dazed And Confused

    I think these are my favourite seven movies

    I know there are better made films with much better acting, but those are the ones I have enjoyed again and again as an adult

    Oh, and all the Monty Python films

    My favourites mostly seem to be romcoms, but there it is:

    Four Weddings and a Funeral
    Amelie
    Shakespeare in Love
    Pride & Prejudice (2005)
    Master and Commander
    Gravity
    Airplane
    How depressingly middle-brow.

    The only good ones there are M&C, Gravity and Airplane, while Amelie and P&P(05) are downright shite.
    Thank you for your kind comments ;-)
    Amelie is the pineapple-on-pizza of film.
    Sorry, I don’t make the rules.
    Fortunately you don't.

    Anyhow, I'll take 'depressingly middle-brow' from the man who chose The Sound of Music in his list, lol.
    A great film. Something for everyone.
    Cabaret knocks the pants off it. Come to think of it, why wasn't Cabaret in my list?
    I actually tried to watch Cabaret recently.
    It’s kind of not-very-good, apart obviously from the choreography and the very famous scene in the beer garden.

    I don’t think Fosse was very good with narrative and editing.
  • StuartinromfordStuartinromford Posts: 17,077
    Phil said:

    dixiedean said:

    Phil said:

    Huw is one of the highest paid, previously most respected, newsreaders on the publicly owned broadcaster

    That doesn't just give him celebrity; it brings him authority and power too

    He's not just an ordinary guy with kinks

    He has abused his position - see the Beeb confirmed stories about his threats - he deserves to lose it

    If he has does anything illegal on top of that then he should be punished for it, if not: not

    But he shouldn't be forgiven his abuse of power, just because he's gone a bit nuts now

    Given his long history of depression “gone a bit nuts now” seems to minimise the reality of his situation a bit.

    But, at the same time, depression is not an excuse for bad behaviour of this kind. Especially when the perpetrator is wealthy enough to afford top flight private medical treatment.

    I think the Beeb has to sack him. This is gross misconduct & mental illness doesn’t excuse it.
    This is all difficult.
    Suppose it was a brain tumour? Does that excuse it?
    Probably? If you could reasonably claim that someone was not in control of their behaviour, then you might be able to plot a path to redemption. But in this case we have an established pattern of behaviour going back at least three years?

    Regardless, I’m going to drop this line of discussion as it seems a bit unseemly to keep picking at the scab.

    Die Hard is clearly a movie that happens at Christmas & is therefore a Christmas movie if you want it to be.
    Part of the point of Christmas is that, after about 3.10 pm on Christmas Day, you can do whatever you damn well please. (Within agreed norms of legality and decency, natch.) Watch Die Hard, Shun Die Hard, it doesn't matter.

    (Though one top tip: move the Big Feast to the following day- have some sort of rolling buffet that just sits there on Christmas Day itself. Originally picked it up as a clergy household thing, but it does make the days around Christmas flow better.)
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 81,627

    BBC News - Boris Johnson early Covid WhatsApps still not passed to inquiry
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-66165001

    The dog eat my homework phone.....

    ate
    I assumed Francis’ OP was an instruction
    It wasn't, it was my dyslexia....but given we know Boris hates the dog & says it eats everything, the instruction claim also works.
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 34,595

    BBC News - Boris Johnson early Covid WhatsApps still not passed to inquiry
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-66165001

    The dog eat my homework phone.....

    ate
    I assumed Francis’ OP was an instruction
    You might very well think that...
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 21,823
    Carnyx said:

    No-one for Kurosawa, e.g. Kagemusha, Yojimbo, etc.?

    Pather Panchali?

    Or Walkabout or Ten Canoes?

    I tried to do this some years ago and couldn't do seven films. I couldn't even do seven directors. I had to do top X films from Y directors

    As for Kurosawa, well I'll raise you "Ran". Not for its plot but for its brilliant use of colour.

    Speaking of colour, nobody said A Matter of Life Or Death, Colonel Blimp, The Red Shoes (there are no bad ballet movies), Black Narcissus. We are starved of colour up there...☹️
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 29,352
    Crouching tiger hidden dragon.
    Eat drink man woman.
    Ang Lee. And his 4 character metaphor movies.
  • OnlyLivingBoyOnlyLivingBoy Posts: 15,716
    Cicero said:

    nico679 said:

    When will the Sun be providing proof that Edwards paid for the pics/videos?

    The police found no criminality . The Suns pathetic backtracking is vomit inducing and they’re now accusing other media outlets of misconstruing their original reports.

    Absolutely desperate stuff from this garbage excuse of a newspaper.

    Not sure that any Murdoch rag is much more than a propaganda pamphlet. The "BBC nest of perverts" issues is really shocking until you remember the dirty digger is on his fifth wife... frankly, the day the old b@!&%%£ croaks, I will open a bottle of fine malt.
    Also it bears repeating that the Sun used to publish photos of topless teenage girls, so the idea that they are acting as the nation's moral arbiter in these matters is faintly nauseating.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 49,611
    Carnyx said:

    Sean_F said:

    EPG said:

    Foxy said:

    EPG said:

    Sean_F said:

    Sean_F said:

    EPG said:

    Sean_F said:

    Unethical behaviour is not necessarily the same thing as illegal behaviour. I've been talking this over with my wife, who is an HR professional.

    Paying a drug addict, who is aged over 18, to provide sexually explict photos, on the part of somebody like a senior local government officer, would be considered an act of gross misconduct. The officer would be suspended, and in all likelihood be dismissed. He might well lose pension rights. He would not be getting away with the argument that "a good chap has the right to a private life." And, if some local rag reported the issue, attempts to blame the local rag would fall flat.

    Whether one hates The Sun or not, is immaterial. There is a public interest in reporting this story.

    Presumably "drug addict" is doing the work there, rather than making anyone who pays for OnlyFans eligible for loss of pension?
    It's the issue of bringing your employer into disrepute, if you're senior enough.

    About a decade ago, there was a guy who was Assistant Director of Housing at Hammersmith & Fulham. He had a Nazi fetish, and he liked posting pictures of himself online having sex with other Nazi fetishists. One of the tabloids reported the story to general mirth, but there was no question of the man keeping his job.
    Why?
    Given some of your posts, I’ve long suspected you of quite odd sexual fetishises, but I’d never dream that it ought to cost you your job.
    Fortunately, I'm self-employed. If I were a partner in a magic circle law firm, who did what is alleged here, I probably would be on my way out.
    Because partners are not employees with rights under law.

    Too many of your examples are irrelevant to the assertion that OnlyFans is grounds for summary dismissal. And, no, I wouldn't necessarily trust HR to know the law, especially when it protects the employee.
    As a point of fact, is there any evidence this took place on OnlyFans?
    I'm inquiring specifically about Sean_F's bare-bones scenario where gross misconduct includes paying for porn in one's own time, to a person who turns out to be an addict. No, I don't know much at all about the details of the current controversy.
    You can make the argument that the law goes too far in allowing employers to dismiss people for actions outside of the workplace that they say will bring them into disrepute.

    However, it is the case that employment law allows them considerable latitude to do so.
    I know a very good and capable 35-year old guy, who had a good career in project management of complex systems integration in the rail industry totally destroyed - forever - because he took cocaine at a party with some friends on a Sunday night, and was randomly drugs tested at 9.30am the next morning (it happens to a random pool once a year) and he got unlucky and it was still in his system.

    It's not my cup of tea but I thought that was a bit harsh. The problem with zero tolerance is that it really is zero tolerance.
    That seems completely absurd.
    It is, and it's what happens under zero tolerance.
    No such thing. The tests will have a clear margin of error *in themselves*. So no, not zero tolerance.

    Oh? Not union member? For reasons? Tough shite.
    IIRC some countries have a zero tolerance for alcohol/drivers.

    Which provided evidence of the existence of people with a traces of alcohol in their bloodstream naturally. Again IIRC, they had to be provided with medical cards explaining the situation.
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 34,595
    Surprised nobody's mentioned Shawshank Redemption yet.
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 21,823
    Foxy said:

    Sean_F said:

    Sean_F said:

    White Men Can't Jump
    Goodfellas
    Withnail And I
    The Blues Brothers
    Pulp Fiction
    The Commitments
    Dazed And Confused

    I think these are my favourite seven movies

    I know there are better made films with much better acting, but those are the ones I have enjoyed again and again as an adult

    Oh, and all the Monty Python films

    For me, the top ten are:

    Goodfellas
    Godfather I and II
    The Death of Stalin
    The Wolf of Wall Street
    The Last King of Scotland
    Some Like it Hot
    From Russia with Love
    Airplane
    Ruthless People.
    Very good list, but too Anglo.
    Fair enough. Among foreign films, I hugely enjoyed La Reine Margot, Jean de Florette, Manon des Sources, Satyricon (a very rare film which does depict a lot of what I think life was like in Ancient Rome) .
    Babette's Feast (best film about food)

    In the Fog and Come and See (brilliant war films)

    A Girl Walks Home alone at Night (best Iranian skateboarding vampire western. Indeed possibly the only one...)


    "Come and See". Great film. Not a good date film... ☹️
  • OnlyLivingBoyOnlyLivingBoy Posts: 15,716
    nico679 said:

    Best foreign series .

    The Bridge
    Spiral
    The Killing

    Best foreign films

    The Lives of Others
    The Secret In Their Eyes the original Argentinian film and not the garbage US remake
    All About My Mother, Volver directed by Pedro Almodovar , the latter has a quite brilliant performance by Penelope Cruz , even better than her performance in All About My Mother .

    Penelope Cruz in Jamon Jamon made a very strong impression on my teenage mind.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 70,565

    White Men Can't Jump
    Goodfellas
    Withnail And I
    The Blues Brothers
    Pulp Fiction
    The Commitments
    Dazed And Confused

    I think these are my favourite seven movies

    I know there are better made films with much better acting, but those are the ones I have enjoyed again and again as an adult

    Oh, and all the Monty Python films

    My favourites mostly seem to be romcoms, but there it is:

    Four Weddings and a Funeral
    Amelie
    Shakespeare in Love
    Pride & Prejudice (2005)
    Master and Commander
    Gravity
    Airplane
    Casablanca
    It's a Wonderful Life
    The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance
    Toy Story 3
    Titanic
    Frozen
    Manon des Sources.
    Casablanca is a stone cold classic which doesn’t pall however many times you watch it.

    Titanic leaves me cold. Frozen has a nice soundtrack.

    I don’t understand the appeal of Goodfellas (or indeed any of those interminable mafia movies where Joe Pesci seems to be playing the same role he did in the last one, or the one before that).
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 29,352
    I'm a huge fan of Fight Club.
    But I don't talk about it.
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 28,246
    The Railway Children
    Goldeneye
    Chariots of Fire
    Silence of the Lambs
    Rear Window
    The Third Man
    Ghostbusters
    The Fifth Element
    Gosford Park

  • AnabobazinaAnabobazina Posts: 23,479
    Casablanca is the best film ever made but is a too obvious choice, as is Shawshank.

    Surprised that

    Black Book (Verhoeven)

    and

    In The Heat of the Night

    rarely make these lists.

    The Great Race is an epic comedy.

    Misery is almost unwatchably excellent

  • MiklosvarMiklosvar Posts: 1,855

    Surprised nobody's mentioned Shawshank Redemption yet.

    Good thing too. You can entirely predict every dreary second of it from knowing that 1. it is every dad's fav film and 2. it has got Morgan Freeman in it. You will often read the Amazing Fact that it flopped at the box office. Unamazing to me.
  • OmniumOmnium Posts: 10,701

    Surprised nobody's mentioned Shawshank Redemption yet.

    Well, although it's good it's always amazed me that people rank it so highly. I'm a little more surprised that nobody has mentioned 12 Angry Men.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 49,611
    Nigelb said:

    White Men Can't Jump
    Goodfellas
    Withnail And I
    The Blues Brothers
    Pulp Fiction
    The Commitments
    Dazed And Confused

    I think these are my favourite seven movies

    I know there are better made films with much better acting, but those are the ones I have enjoyed again and again as an adult

    Oh, and all the Monty Python films

    My favourites mostly seem to be romcoms, but there it is:

    Four Weddings and a Funeral
    Amelie
    Shakespeare in Love
    Pride & Prejudice (2005)
    Master and Commander
    Gravity
    Airplane
    Casablanca
    It's a Wonderful Life
    The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance
    Toy Story 3
    Titanic
    Frozen
    Manon des Sources.
    Casablanca is a stone cold classic which doesn’t pall however many times you watch it.

    Titanic leaves me cold. Frozen has a nice soundtrack.

    I don’t understand the appeal of Goodfellas (or indeed any of those interminable mafia movies where Joe Pesci seems to be playing the same role he did in the last one, or the one before that).
    Goodfellas is the best of those films - very well shot and acted

    And while it glamourises parts of the mob life, it also shows how fucked up it is.
  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 42,783
    viewcode said:

    Carnyx said:

    No-one for Kurosawa, e.g. Kagemusha, Yojimbo, etc.?

    Pather Panchali?

    Or Walkabout or Ten Canoes?

    I tried to do this some years ago and couldn't do seven films. I couldn't even do seven directors. I had to do top X films from Y directors

    As for Kurosawa, well I'll raise you "Ran". Not for its plot but for its brilliant use of colour.

    Speaking of colour, nobody said A Matter of Life Or Death, Colonel Blimp, The Red Shoes (there are no bad ballet movies), Black Narcissus. We are starved of colour up there...☹️
    The Three Colours... trilogy is masterful.
  • MiklosvarMiklosvar Posts: 1,855
    Nigelb said:

    White Men Can't Jump
    Goodfellas
    Withnail And I
    The Blues Brothers
    Pulp Fiction
    The Commitments
    Dazed And Confused

    I think these are my favourite seven movies

    I know there are better made films with much better acting, but those are the ones I have enjoyed again and again as an adult

    Oh, and all the Monty Python films

    My favourites mostly seem to be romcoms, but there it is:

    Four Weddings and a Funeral
    Amelie
    Shakespeare in Love
    Pride & Prejudice (2005)
    Master and Commander
    Gravity
    Airplane
    Casablanca
    It's a Wonderful Life
    The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance
    Toy Story 3
    Titanic
    Frozen
    Manon des Sources.
    Casablanca is a stone cold classic which doesn’t pall however many times you watch it.

    Titanic leaves me cold. Frozen has a nice soundtrack.

    I don’t understand the appeal of Goodfellas (or indeed any of those interminable mafia movies where Joe Pesci seems to be playing the same role he did in the last one, or the one before that).
    I love Goodfellas, and it knocks the overrated Godfathers out of contention.
  • DougSealDougSeal Posts: 12,541

    DougSeal said:

    Foxy said:

    I have never seen Die Hard.

    I basically saw no “action films” in the 80s because, well, I was a child, and my parents would let me watch them on VHS.

    And I never bothered to remedy that in the 90s.

    So I haven’t seen:

    Die Hard(s)
    Lethal Weapon(s)
    Alien(s)
    Predator(s)
    Terminator(s)
    Beverly Hills Cop
    or Rambos.

    I’ll get around to it some day.

    Neither Alien (sci-fi horror) nor Beverly Hills Cop (comedy) fit that category.

    Alien is excellent; BHC, amusing.
    Alien was late 70's wasn't it?

    I have never seen any of the Die Hards, nor Lethal Weapons, nor any Star Wars (apart from the original) nor any Star Trek (apart from the 1960's original), nor LoTR films, nor The Hobbit, nor any "Superhero" films.

    Action films are not really my cup of tea. I find special effects boring, and too often a substitute to cover up thin characterisation and plot.
    Star Trek 2: The Wrath of Khan is worth seeing even if you don’t like sci-fi. The characterisation and revenge plot are first class, and the ultimate space battle (through a plot contrivance) is more like a blind struggle between two WW2 submarines.
    It was basically stolen from Enemy Down Below.
    Genius copies
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 49,611
    For comedy, try - https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0152930/

    A brilliant film by Luc Besson.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 51,607

    Casablanca is the best film ever made but is a too obvious choice, as is Shawshank.

    Surprised that

    Black Book (Verhoeven)

    and

    In The Heat of the Night

    rarely make these lists.

    The Great Race is an epic comedy.

    Misery is almost unwatchably excellent

    True Lies was also Verhoeven :)

    Carice van Houten was also in Valkyrie, briefly.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 48,492

    White Men Can't Jump
    Goodfellas
    Withnail And I
    The Blues Brothers
    Pulp Fiction
    The Commitments
    Dazed And Confused

    I think these are my favourite seven movies

    I know there are better made films with much better acting, but those are the ones I have enjoyed again and again as an adult

    Oh, and all the Monty Python films

    My favourites mostly seem to be romcoms, but there it is:

    Four Weddings and a Funeral
    Amelie
    Shakespeare in Love
    Pride & Prejudice (2005)
    Master and Commander
    Gravity
    Airplane
    How depressingly middle-brow.

    The only good ones there are M&C, Gravity and Airplane, while Amelie and P&P(05) are downright shite.
    Thank you for your kind comments ;-)
    Amelie is the pineapple-on-pizza of film.
    Sorry, I don’t make the rules.
    Fortunately you don't.

    Anyhow, I'll take 'depressingly middle-brow' from the man who chose The Sound of Music in his list, lol.
    A great film. Something for everyone.
    Cabaret knocks the pants off it. Come to think of it, why wasn't Cabaret in my list?
    I actually tried to watch Cabaret recently.
    It’s kind of not-very-good, apart obviously from the choreography and the very famous scene in the beer garden.

    I don’t think Fosse was very good with narrative and editing.
    The problem with Cabaret and A Taste of Honey or Sweet Charity is that the sexuality depicted is no longer shocking.

    On the other hand, the sexuality of Last Tango in Paris, Christiana F or The Rocky Horror Picture Show, tells a lot about what went wrong with attitudes to sex in the 1970's.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 49,611
    DougSeal said:

    DougSeal said:

    Foxy said:

    I have never seen Die Hard.

    I basically saw no “action films” in the 80s because, well, I was a child, and my parents would let me watch them on VHS.

    And I never bothered to remedy that in the 90s.

    So I haven’t seen:

    Die Hard(s)
    Lethal Weapon(s)
    Alien(s)
    Predator(s)
    Terminator(s)
    Beverly Hills Cop
    or Rambos.

    I’ll get around to it some day.

    Neither Alien (sci-fi horror) nor Beverly Hills Cop (comedy) fit that category.

    Alien is excellent; BHC, amusing.
    Alien was late 70's wasn't it?

    I have never seen any of the Die Hards, nor Lethal Weapons, nor any Star Wars (apart from the original) nor any Star Trek (apart from the 1960's original), nor LoTR films, nor The Hobbit, nor any "Superhero" films.

    Action films are not really my cup of tea. I find special effects boring, and too often a substitute to cover up thin characterisation and plot.
    Star Trek 2: The Wrath of Khan is worth seeing even if you don’t like sci-fi. The characterisation and revenge plot are first class, and the ultimate space battle (through a plot contrivance) is more like a blind struggle between two WW2 submarines.
    It was basically stolen from Enemy Down Below.
    Genius copies
    The original is worth watching. Even if to identify where all the sub movie cliches started.
  • Jim_MillerJim_Miller Posts: 2,960
    edited July 2023
    Huw Edwards made the Washington Post: https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/07/12/huw-edwards-bbc-presenter/

    (From what I've seen, American journalists have shown very little interest in this story. Guild loyalty may be one of the reasons why.)
  • CyclefreeCyclefree Posts: 25,269
    ydoethur said:

    And in other news:

    "Many young people in Italy are expressing outrage on social media, after a judge cleared a school caretaker of groping a teenager, because it did not last long enough."

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-66174352

    I would like to think in this country we would bang the sleazy fucker up.

    But those cases in Scotland and Stoke where rapists of young girls walked free have rather dented my confidence.
    At least the Met has arrested Sarah-Jane Baker on suspicion of inciting violence.
  • AnabobazinaAnabobazina Posts: 23,479

    BBC News - Boris Johnson early Covid WhatsApps still not passed to inquiry
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-66165001

    The dog eat my homework phone.....

    ate
    I assumed Francis’ OP was an instruction
    You might very well think that...
    Ha ha. Chapeau!
  • MiklosvarMiklosvar Posts: 1,855
    Foxy said:

    White Men Can't Jump
    Goodfellas
    Withnail And I
    The Blues Brothers
    Pulp Fiction
    The Commitments
    Dazed And Confused

    I think these are my favourite seven movies

    I know there are better made films with much better acting, but those are the ones I have enjoyed again and again as an adult

    Oh, and all the Monty Python films

    My favourites mostly seem to be romcoms, but there it is:

    Four Weddings and a Funeral
    Amelie
    Shakespeare in Love
    Pride & Prejudice (2005)
    Master and Commander
    Gravity
    Airplane
    How depressingly middle-brow.

    The only good ones there are M&C, Gravity and Airplane, while Amelie and P&P(05) are downright shite.
    Thank you for your kind comments ;-)
    Amelie is the pineapple-on-pizza of film.
    Sorry, I don’t make the rules.
    Fortunately you don't.

    Anyhow, I'll take 'depressingly middle-brow' from the man who chose The Sound of Music in his list, lol.
    A great film. Something for everyone.
    Cabaret knocks the pants off it. Come to think of it, why wasn't Cabaret in my list?
    I actually tried to watch Cabaret recently.
    It’s kind of not-very-good, apart obviously from the choreography and the very famous scene in the beer garden.

    I don’t think Fosse was very good with narrative and editing.
    The problem with Cabaret and A Taste of Honey or Sweet Charity is that the sexuality depicted is no longer shocking.

    On the other hand, the sexuality of Last Tango in Paris, Christiana F or The Rocky Horror Picture Show, tells a lot about what went wrong with attitudes to sex in the 1970's.
    A man who is tired of the RHPS is tired of life.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 81,627
    edited July 2023
    Omnium said:

    Surprised nobody's mentioned Shawshank Redemption yet.

    Well, although it's good it's always amazed me that people rank it so highly. I'm a little more surprised that nobody has mentioned 12 Angry Men.
    That films shows that you don't need cgi, explosions, ever changing vistas, just one room and a great story and pacing can make for a brilliant movie.
  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 42,783
    Everyone has different best films for different moods.

    Right now I'd say:

    Donnie Darko
    Kes
    The Rock
    Distant Voices Still Lives
    Four Lions
    War Requiem
    Prodigal Son/Warriors Two
    The Warriors
    The Long Day Closes
    Black Hawk Down

    Plenty more, that said.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 70,565
    kle4 said:

    White Men Can't Jump
    Goodfellas
    Withnail And I
    The Blues Brothers
    Pulp Fiction
    The Commitments
    Dazed And Confused

    I think these are my favourite seven movies

    I know there are better made films with much better acting, but those are the ones I have enjoyed again and again as an adult

    Oh, and all the Monty Python films

    My favourites mostly seem to be romcoms, but there it is:

    Four Weddings and a Funeral
    Amelie
    Shakespeare in Love
    Pride & Prejudice (2005)
    Master and Commander
    Gravity
    Airplane
    How depressingly middle-brow.

    The only good ones there are M&C, Gravity and Airplane, while Amelie and P&P(05) are downright shite.
    Thank you for your kind comments ;-)
    Unless Garden Walker is just anti-Jane Austen, he might have a passionate predilection for the BBC TV adaptation of the 90's. I prefer it over 2005 too.
    Mrs P. prefers the BBC version, I prefer the 2005 film. We watch them both once a year or so.

    There's a book too, apparently ;-)
    Read it last year, it's pretty good - turns out it had some of my favourite lines from the miniseries in it, who could have predicted?

    Lady Susan was an interesting read too, no idea if they've ever adapted it.
    I liked the version with zombies.
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 29,352
    Miyazaki stuff too.
    Howl's Moving Castle, Spirited Away, My Neighbour Totoro, Princess Mononoke.
    Animation which can be appreciated by parents and kids on different levels isn't easy.
    On which point.
    How about Wallace and Gromit?
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 21,823
    viewcode said:

    Carnyx said:

    No-one for Kurosawa, e.g. Kagemusha, Yojimbo, etc.?

    Pather Panchali?

    Or Walkabout or Ten Canoes?

    I tried to do this some years ago and couldn't do seven films. I couldn't even do seven directors. I had to do top X films from Y directors

    As for Kurosawa, well I'll raise you "Ran". Not for its plot but for its brilliant use of colour.

    Speaking of colour, nobody said A Matter of Life Or Death, Colonel Blimp, The Red Shoes (there are no bad ballet movies), Black Narcissus. We are starved of colour up there...☹️
    No Terrence Malick. No Badlands, no Thin Red Line, no Tree of Life. No Coppola. No Apocalypse Now, no Godfathers. Scorsese apparently never existed, nor did Hitchcock. No Hitchcock blondes, no Cary Grant in a powder blue suit. Eastwood is unforgiven and Unforgiven is lost. Nobody made our day. Tarantino still works in a video store. You could fill seven great films just by his or Kubrick's filmography. No Villeneuve: Rachael is still alive with no incept date and Dune is the month between May and July. Nolan is noman: no Dunkirk, no Tenet. All these moments have been lost, like tears in...and we're back to Scott: no Alien,no Blade Runner. Ah, we are poor in the midst of plenty.

    And no "Lifeforce". We are Bad People.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 95,918
    edited July 2023
    Miklosvar said:

    Surprised nobody's mentioned Shawshank Redemption yet.

    Good thing too. You can entirely predict every dreary second of it from knowing that 1. it is every dad's fav film and 2. it has got Morgan Freeman in it. You will often read the Amazing Fact that it flopped at the box office. Unamazing to me.
    I like it, but that brings up a more interesting potential list - things everyone seems to think are great, but you just don't get (like the Withnail and I example earlier).

    I've said it before, but I wasn't joking, Marlon Brando is shit in The Godfather. That stupid voice alone makes it impossible to take seriously, with his ridiculous expressions not helping.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 51,607

    DougSeal said:

    Foxy said:

    I have never seen Die Hard.

    I basically saw no “action films” in the 80s because, well, I was a child, and my parents would let me watch them on VHS.

    And I never bothered to remedy that in the 90s.

    So I haven’t seen:

    Die Hard(s)
    Lethal Weapon(s)
    Alien(s)
    Predator(s)
    Terminator(s)
    Beverly Hills Cop
    or Rambos.

    I’ll get around to it some day.

    Neither Alien (sci-fi horror) nor Beverly Hills Cop (comedy) fit that category.

    Alien is excellent; BHC, amusing.
    Alien was late 70's wasn't it?

    I have never seen any of the Die Hards, nor Lethal Weapons, nor any Star Wars (apart from the original) nor any Star Trek (apart from the 1960's original), nor LoTR films, nor The Hobbit, nor any "Superhero" films.

    Action films are not really my cup of tea. I find special effects boring, and too often a substitute to cover up thin characterisation and plot.
    Star Trek 2: The Wrath of Khan is worth seeing even if you don’t like sci-fi. The characterisation and revenge plot are first class, and the ultimate space battle (through a plot contrivance) is more like a blind struggle between two WW2 submarines.
    It was basically stolen from Enemy Down Below.
    "THIS IS CETI ALPHA FIVE!"
  • OnlyLivingBoyOnlyLivingBoy Posts: 15,716
    Nigelb said:

    White Men Can't Jump
    Goodfellas
    Withnail And I
    The Blues Brothers
    Pulp Fiction
    The Commitments
    Dazed And Confused

    I think these are my favourite seven movies

    I know there are better made films with much better acting, but those are the ones I have enjoyed again and again as an adult

    Oh, and all the Monty Python films

    My favourites mostly seem to be romcoms, but there it is:

    Four Weddings and a Funeral
    Amelie
    Shakespeare in Love
    Pride & Prejudice (2005)
    Master and Commander
    Gravity
    Airplane
    Casablanca
    It's a Wonderful Life
    The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance
    Toy Story 3
    Titanic
    Frozen
    Manon des Sources.
    Casablanca is a stone cold classic which doesn’t pall however many times you watch it.

    Titanic leaves me cold. Frozen has a nice soundtrack.

    I don’t understand the appeal of Goodfellas (or indeed any of those interminable mafia movies where Joe Pesci seems to be playing the same role he did in the last one, or the one before that).
    I adore Titanic. I think it's one of the few modern films that feels like a movie from the golden age of Hollywood, with charismatic stars, glamour and adventure. It is a romantic film, an adventure, a historical movie, a disaster movie, a summer blockbuster, all rolled into one. The two leads are brilliant actors with a genuine chemistry. The special effects are incredible and haven't dated. Even the really corny bits that should be terrible somehow work - that last scene where they are reunited in a kind of Titanic heaven should be completely absurd but leaves me a blubbering wreck every time.
    Frozen is more than the brilliant soundtrack - I find the relationship between the sisters very affecting. Perhaps because I have an older sibling who was a bit troubled and had a difficult childhood and adolescence, it has a lot of resonance for me. It feels emotionally real, which is very hard to get right in art. And it's gorgeous to look at. And it has one of the best songs ever written.
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 28,246
    ...
    TOPPING said:

    Everyone has different best films for different moods.

    Right now I'd say:

    Donnie Darko
    Kes
    The Rock
    Distant Voices Still Lives
    Four Lions
    War Requiem
    Prodigal Son/Warriors Two
    The Warriors
    The Long Day Closes
    Black Hawk Down

    Plenty more, that said.

    Should we be hiding your scissors?
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 34,595
    viewcode said:

    viewcode said:

    Carnyx said:

    No-one for Kurosawa, e.g. Kagemusha, Yojimbo, etc.?

    Pather Panchali?

    Or Walkabout or Ten Canoes?

    I tried to do this some years ago and couldn't do seven films. I couldn't even do seven directors. I had to do top X films from Y directors

    As for Kurosawa, well I'll raise you "Ran". Not for its plot but for its brilliant use of colour.

    Speaking of colour, nobody said A Matter of Life Or Death, Colonel Blimp, The Red Shoes (there are no bad ballet movies), Black Narcissus. We are starved of colour up there...☹️
    No Terrence Malick. No Badlands, no Thin Red Line, no Tree of Life. No Coppola. No Apocalypse Now, no Godfathers. Scorsese apparently never existed, nor did Hitchcock. No Hitchcock blondes, no Cary Grant in a powder blue suit. Eastwood is unforgiven and Unforgiven is lost. Nobody made our day. Tarantino still works in a video store. You could fill seven great films just by his or Kubrick's filmography. No Villeneuve: Rachael is still alive with no incept date and Dune is the month between May and July. Nolan is noman: no Dunkirk, no Tenet. All these moments have been lost, like tears in...and we're back to Scott: no Alien,no Blade Runner. Ah, we are poor in the midst of plenty.

    And no "Lifeforce". We are Bad People.
    Are you ok?
  • EPGEPG Posts: 6,644
    About two dozen Hitchcock movies have made an impact on me upon watching. Sometimes I will still think suddenly about, say, that scene with Doris Day near the end of The Man Who Knew Too Much, or the two fellows chatting at the start of Strangers on a Train. The only problem is that the thrill the first time was really visceral and you know you are only recreating it in part as an intellectual thrill.
  • OnlyLivingBoyOnlyLivingBoy Posts: 15,716
    Miklosvar said:

    Foxy said:

    White Men Can't Jump
    Goodfellas
    Withnail And I
    The Blues Brothers
    Pulp Fiction
    The Commitments
    Dazed And Confused

    I think these are my favourite seven movies

    I know there are better made films with much better acting, but those are the ones I have enjoyed again and again as an adult

    Oh, and all the Monty Python films

    My favourites mostly seem to be romcoms, but there it is:

    Four Weddings and a Funeral
    Amelie
    Shakespeare in Love
    Pride & Prejudice (2005)
    Master and Commander
    Gravity
    Airplane
    How depressingly middle-brow.

    The only good ones there are M&C, Gravity and Airplane, while Amelie and P&P(05) are downright shite.
    Thank you for your kind comments ;-)
    Amelie is the pineapple-on-pizza of film.
    Sorry, I don’t make the rules.
    Fortunately you don't.

    Anyhow, I'll take 'depressingly middle-brow' from the man who chose The Sound of Music in his list, lol.
    A great film. Something for everyone.
    Cabaret knocks the pants off it. Come to think of it, why wasn't Cabaret in my list?
    I actually tried to watch Cabaret recently.
    It’s kind of not-very-good, apart obviously from the choreography and the very famous scene in the beer garden.

    I don’t think Fosse was very good with narrative and editing.
    The problem with Cabaret and A Taste of Honey or Sweet Charity is that the sexuality depicted is no longer shocking.

    On the other hand, the sexuality of Last Tango in Paris, Christiana F or The Rocky Horror Picture Show, tells a lot about what went wrong with attitudes to sex in the 1970's.
    A man who is tired of the RHPS is tired of life.
    My aunt is in it! It is a weird film though.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 49,611

    Omnium said:

    Surprised nobody's mentioned Shawshank Redemption yet.

    Well, although it's good it's always amazed me that people rank it so highly. I'm a little more surprised that nobody has mentioned 12 Angry Men.
    That films shows that you don't need cgi, explosions, ever changing vistas, just one room and a great story and pacing can make for a brilliant movie.
    Phonebooth
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 21,823

    viewcode said:

    viewcode said:

    Carnyx said:

    No-one for Kurosawa, e.g. Kagemusha, Yojimbo, etc.?

    Pather Panchali?

    Or Walkabout or Ten Canoes?

    I tried to do this some years ago and couldn't do seven films. I couldn't even do seven directors. I had to do top X films from Y directors

    As for Kurosawa, well I'll raise you "Ran". Not for its plot but for its brilliant use of colour.

    Speaking of colour, nobody said A Matter of Life Or Death, Colonel Blimp, The Red Shoes (there are no bad ballet movies), Black Narcissus. We are starved of colour up there...☹️
    No Terrence Malick. No Badlands, no Thin Red Line, no Tree of Life. No Coppola. No Apocalypse Now, no Godfathers. Scorsese apparently never existed, nor did Hitchcock. No Hitchcock blondes, no Cary Grant in a powder blue suit. Eastwood is unforgiven and Unforgiven is lost. Nobody made our day. Tarantino still works in a video store. You could fill seven great films just by his or Kubrick's filmography. No Villeneuve: Rachael is still alive with no incept date and Dune is the month between May and July. Nolan is noman: no Dunkirk, no Tenet. All these moments have been lost, like tears in...and we're back to Scott: no Alien,no Blade Runner. Ah, we are poor in the midst of plenty.

    And no "Lifeforce". We are Bad People.
    Are you ok?
    That is perhaps a question you should not ask, and certainly one I should not answer.
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 34,595
    The Graduate! How could I forget The Graduate?
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 95,918
    How did I forget Wall-E?! I only saw it again at the cinema earlier this year. Such a bold direction taken for a children's film, visually stunning, emotional as hell, and uplifting to boot.
  • MiklosvarMiklosvar Posts: 1,855

    The Graduate! How could I forget The Graduate?

    The Graduate! How could I forget The Graduate?

    What's that you say?
  • StuartinromfordStuartinromford Posts: 17,077
    Foxy said:

    White Men Can't Jump
    Goodfellas
    Withnail And I
    The Blues Brothers
    Pulp Fiction
    The Commitments
    Dazed And Confused

    I think these are my favourite seven movies

    I know there are better made films with much better acting, but those are the ones I have enjoyed again and again as an adult

    Oh, and all the Monty Python films

    My favourites mostly seem to be romcoms, but there it is:

    Four Weddings and a Funeral
    Amelie
    Shakespeare in Love
    Pride & Prejudice (2005)
    Master and Commander
    Gravity
    Airplane
    How depressingly middle-brow.

    The only good ones there are M&C, Gravity and Airplane, while Amelie and P&P(05) are downright shite.
    Thank you for your kind comments ;-)
    Amelie is the pineapple-on-pizza of film.
    Sorry, I don’t make the rules.
    Fortunately you don't.

    Anyhow, I'll take 'depressingly middle-brow' from the man who chose The Sound of Music in his list, lol.
    A great film. Something for everyone.
    Cabaret knocks the pants off it. Come to think of it, why wasn't Cabaret in my list?
    I actually tried to watch Cabaret recently.
    It’s kind of not-very-good, apart obviously from the choreography and the very famous scene in the beer garden.

    I don’t think Fosse was very good with narrative and editing.
    The problem with Cabaret and A Taste of Honey or Sweet Charity is that the sexuality depicted is no longer shocking.

    On the other hand, the sexuality of Last Tango in Paris, Christiana F or The Rocky Horror Picture Show, tells a lot about what went wrong with attitudes to sex in the 1970's.
    As, in a different way, did all those Confessions of a Door to Door Cucumber Salesman type movies.

    The musical numbers in Cabaret work, and do a lot of driving the story forward. But the bits in-between much less so. What musicals managed to avoid that- start big and just keep going even in the words between the songs? There must be something before Moulin Rouge, but it's the first one I can think of.
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 28,246

    Nigelb said:

    White Men Can't Jump
    Goodfellas
    Withnail And I
    The Blues Brothers
    Pulp Fiction
    The Commitments
    Dazed And Confused

    I think these are my favourite seven movies

    I know there are better made films with much better acting, but those are the ones I have enjoyed again and again as an adult

    Oh, and all the Monty Python films

    My favourites mostly seem to be romcoms, but there it is:

    Four Weddings and a Funeral
    Amelie
    Shakespeare in Love
    Pride & Prejudice (2005)
    Master and Commander
    Gravity
    Airplane
    Casablanca
    It's a Wonderful Life
    The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance
    Toy Story 3
    Titanic
    Frozen
    Manon des Sources.
    Casablanca is a stone cold classic which doesn’t pall however many times you watch it.

    Titanic leaves me cold. Frozen has a nice soundtrack.

    I don’t understand the appeal of Goodfellas (or indeed any of those interminable mafia movies where Joe Pesci seems to be playing the same role he did in the last one, or the one before that).
    I adore Titanic. I think it's one of the few modern films that feels like a movie from the golden age of Hollywood, with charismatic stars, glamour and adventure. It is a romantic film, an adventure, a historical movie, a disaster movie, a summer blockbuster, all rolled into one. The two leads are brilliant actors with a genuine chemistry. The special effects are incredible and haven't dated. Even the really corny bits that should be terrible somehow work - that last scene where they are reunited in a kind of Titanic heaven should be completely absurd but leaves me a blubbering wreck every time.
    Frozen is more than the brilliant soundtrack - I find the relationship between the sisters very affecting. Perhaps because I have an older sibling who was a bit troubled and had a difficult childhood and adolescence, it has a lot of resonance for me. It feels emotionally real, which is very hard to get right in art. And it's gorgeous to look at. And it has one of the best songs ever written.
    I have never been interested enough to watch either film. Regarding Titanic, I have a strong prejudice against films where I know the outcome. Especially if that outcome is most people get drownded.

    With Frozen, I've only heard the 'main song' (which I think is very poor - don't think a song that poor would have even made soundtrack on The Little Mermaid.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 70,565
    Carnyx said:

    No-one for Kurosawa, e.g. Kagemusha, Yojimbo, etc.?

    Always.

    Though a greater Japanese film for me is Spirited Away.
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 29,352

    Miklosvar said:

    Foxy said:

    White Men Can't Jump
    Goodfellas
    Withnail And I
    The Blues Brothers
    Pulp Fiction
    The Commitments
    Dazed And Confused

    I think these are my favourite seven movies

    I know there are better made films with much better acting, but those are the ones I have enjoyed again and again as an adult

    Oh, and all the Monty Python films

    My favourites mostly seem to be romcoms, but there it is:

    Four Weddings and a Funeral
    Amelie
    Shakespeare in Love
    Pride & Prejudice (2005)
    Master and Commander
    Gravity
    Airplane
    How depressingly middle-brow.

    The only good ones there are M&C, Gravity and Airplane, while Amelie and P&P(05) are downright shite.
    Thank you for your kind comments ;-)
    Amelie is the pineapple-on-pizza of film.
    Sorry, I don’t make the rules.
    Fortunately you don't.

    Anyhow, I'll take 'depressingly middle-brow' from the man who chose The Sound of Music in his list, lol.
    A great film. Something for everyone.
    Cabaret knocks the pants off it. Come to think of it, why wasn't Cabaret in my list?
    I actually tried to watch Cabaret recently.
    It’s kind of not-very-good, apart obviously from the choreography and the very famous scene in the beer garden.

    I don’t think Fosse was very good with narrative and editing.
    The problem with Cabaret and A Taste of Honey or Sweet Charity is that the sexuality depicted is no longer shocking.

    On the other hand, the sexuality of Last Tango in Paris, Christiana F or The Rocky Horror Picture Show, tells a lot about what went wrong with attitudes to sex in the 1970's.
    A man who is tired of the RHPS is tired of life.
    My aunt is in it! It is a weird film though.
    May I ask?
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 34,595
    The Grand Budapest Hotel

    And that's it from me - night all.
  • Alphabet_SoupAlphabet_Soup Posts: 3,190
    I prefer films that are long and slow and totally engrossing like Andrei Rublev. I saw it at the old Academy cinema in Oxford Street and when I came out there were three inches of snow on the ground. For avoidance of doubt it is not a Christmas movie, although it features a certain amount of bell-ringing.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 51,607

    Omnium said:

    Surprised nobody's mentioned Shawshank Redemption yet.

    Well, although it's good it's always amazed me that people rank it so highly. I'm a little more surprised that nobody has mentioned 12 Angry Men.
    That films shows that you don't need cgi, explosions, ever changing vistas, just one room and a great story and pacing can make for a brilliant movie.
    Phonebooth
    "There's the spirit!"
  • OnlyLivingBoyOnlyLivingBoy Posts: 15,716

    Nigelb said:

    White Men Can't Jump
    Goodfellas
    Withnail And I
    The Blues Brothers
    Pulp Fiction
    The Commitments
    Dazed And Confused

    I think these are my favourite seven movies

    I know there are better made films with much better acting, but those are the ones I have enjoyed again and again as an adult

    Oh, and all the Monty Python films

    My favourites mostly seem to be romcoms, but there it is:

    Four Weddings and a Funeral
    Amelie
    Shakespeare in Love
    Pride & Prejudice (2005)
    Master and Commander
    Gravity
    Airplane
    Casablanca
    It's a Wonderful Life
    The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance
    Toy Story 3
    Titanic
    Frozen
    Manon des Sources.
    Casablanca is a stone cold classic which doesn’t pall however many times you watch it.

    Titanic leaves me cold. Frozen has a nice soundtrack.

    I don’t understand the appeal of Goodfellas (or indeed any of those interminable mafia movies where Joe Pesci seems to be playing the same role he did in the last one, or the one before that).
    I adore Titanic. I think it's one of the few modern films that feels like a movie from the golden age of Hollywood, with charismatic stars, glamour and adventure. It is a romantic film, an adventure, a historical movie, a disaster movie, a summer blockbuster, all rolled into one. The two leads are brilliant actors with a genuine chemistry. The special effects are incredible and haven't dated. Even the really corny bits that should be terrible somehow work - that last scene where they are reunited in a kind of Titanic heaven should be completely absurd but leaves me a blubbering wreck every time.
    Frozen is more than the brilliant soundtrack - I find the relationship between the sisters very affecting. Perhaps because I have an older sibling who was a bit troubled and had a difficult childhood and adolescence, it has a lot of resonance for me. It feels emotionally real, which is very hard to get right in art. And it's gorgeous to look at. And it has one of the best songs ever written.
    I have never been interested enough to watch either film. Regarding Titanic, I have a strong prejudice against films where I know the outcome. Especially if that outcome is most people get drownded.

    With Frozen, I've only heard the 'main song' (which I think is very poor - don't think a song that poor would have even made soundtrack on The Little Mermaid.
    Yes, spoiler alert, the ship sinks.
    On Let it Go, sorry, you are simply wrong. This is a song that is so good that it forced them to rewrite the entire film.
  • MiklosvarMiklosvar Posts: 1,855
    viewcode said:

    viewcode said:

    Carnyx said:

    No-one for Kurosawa, e.g. Kagemusha, Yojimbo, etc.?

    Pather Panchali?

    Or Walkabout or Ten Canoes?

    I tried to do this some years ago and couldn't do seven films. I couldn't even do seven directors. I had to do top X films from Y directors

    As for Kurosawa, well I'll raise you "Ran". Not for its plot but for its brilliant use of colour.

    Speaking of colour, nobody said A Matter of Life Or Death, Colonel Blimp, The Red Shoes (there are no bad ballet movies), Black Narcissus. We are starved of colour up there...☹️
    No Terrence Malick. No Badlands, no Thin Red Line, no Tree of Life. No Coppola. No Apocalypse Now, no Godfathers. Scorsese apparently never existed, nor did Hitchcock. No Hitchcock blondes, no Cary Grant in a powder blue suit. Eastwood is unforgiven and Unforgiven is lost. Nobody made our day. Tarantino still works in a video store. You could fill seven great films just by his or Kubrick's filmography. No Villeneuve: Rachael is still alive with no incept date and Dune is the month between May and July. Nolan is noman: no Dunkirk, no Tenet. All these moments have been lost, like tears in...and we're back to Scott: no Alien,no Blade Runner. Ah, we are poor in the midst of plenty.

    And no "Lifeforce". We are Bad People.
    Been watching lots of Hitchcock on archive.org, and not as impressed as I expected to be. N by NW is outdated and superseded by good Daniel Craig JB films (and btw Layer Cake is superb), Rear Window is creepy voyeurism, Vertigo a bit ho hum.
  • jamesdoylejamesdoyle Posts: 790
    Foxy said:

    Sean_F said:

    Sean_F said:

    White Men Can't Jump
    Goodfellas
    Withnail And I
    The Blues Brothers
    Pulp Fiction
    The Commitments
    Dazed And Confused

    I think these are my favourite seven movies

    I know there are better made films with much better acting, but those are the ones I have enjoyed again and again as an adult

    Oh, and all the Monty Python films

    For me, the top ten are:

    Goodfellas
    Godfather I and II
    The Death of Stalin
    The Wolf of Wall Street
    The Last King of Scotland
    Some Like it Hot
    From Russia with Love
    Airplane
    Ruthless People.
    Very good list, but too Anglo.
    Fair enough. Among foreign films, I hugely enjoyed La Reine Margot, Jean de Florette, Manon des Sources, Satyricon (a very rare film which does depict a lot of what I think life was like in Ancient Rome) .
    Babette's Feast (best film about food)

    In the Fog and Come and See (brilliant war films)

    A Girl Walks Home alone at Night (best Iranian skateboarding vampire western. Indeed possibly the only one...)


    Babette's Feast and La Reine Margot are two of my all time favourites!
  • OnlyLivingBoyOnlyLivingBoy Posts: 15,716
    dixiedean said:

    Miklosvar said:

    Foxy said:

    White Men Can't Jump
    Goodfellas
    Withnail And I
    The Blues Brothers
    Pulp Fiction
    The Commitments
    Dazed And Confused

    I think these are my favourite seven movies

    I know there are better made films with much better acting, but those are the ones I have enjoyed again and again as an adult

    Oh, and all the Monty Python films

    My favourites mostly seem to be romcoms, but there it is:

    Four Weddings and a Funeral
    Amelie
    Shakespeare in Love
    Pride & Prejudice (2005)
    Master and Commander
    Gravity
    Airplane
    How depressingly middle-brow.

    The only good ones there are M&C, Gravity and Airplane, while Amelie and P&P(05) are downright shite.
    Thank you for your kind comments ;-)
    Amelie is the pineapple-on-pizza of film.
    Sorry, I don’t make the rules.
    Fortunately you don't.

    Anyhow, I'll take 'depressingly middle-brow' from the man who chose The Sound of Music in his list, lol.
    A great film. Something for everyone.
    Cabaret knocks the pants off it. Come to think of it, why wasn't Cabaret in my list?
    I actually tried to watch Cabaret recently.
    It’s kind of not-very-good, apart obviously from the choreography and the very famous scene in the beer garden.

    I don’t think Fosse was very good with narrative and editing.
    The problem with Cabaret and A Taste of Honey or Sweet Charity is that the sexuality depicted is no longer shocking.

    On the other hand, the sexuality of Last Tango in Paris, Christiana F or The Rocky Horror Picture Show, tells a lot about what went wrong with attitudes to sex in the 1970's.
    A man who is tired of the RHPS is tired of life.
    My aunt is in it! It is a weird film though.
    May I ask?
    She is one of the dancers. I don't want to dox myself so I won't say anymore. She was the only cool member of my family.
  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 42,783

    ...

    TOPPING said:

    Everyone has different best films for different moods.

    Right now I'd say:

    Donnie Darko
    Kes
    The Rock
    Distant Voices Still Lives
    Four Lions
    War Requiem
    Prodigal Son/Warriors Two
    The Warriors
    The Long Day Closes
    Black Hawk Down

    Plenty more, that said.

    Should we be hiding your scissors?
    I could also have written Four Lions ten times.
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 21,823

    Omnium said:

    Surprised nobody's mentioned Shawshank Redemption yet.

    Well, although it's good it's always amazed me that people rank it so highly. I'm a little more surprised that nobody has mentioned 12 Angry Men.
    That films shows that you don't need cgi, explosions, ever changing vistas, just one room and a great story and pacing can make for a brilliant movie.
    Glengarry Glen Ross
  • MiklosvarMiklosvar Posts: 1,855

    Miklosvar said:

    Foxy said:

    White Men Can't Jump
    Goodfellas
    Withnail And I
    The Blues Brothers
    Pulp Fiction
    The Commitments
    Dazed And Confused

    I think these are my favourite seven movies

    I know there are better made films with much better acting, but those are the ones I have enjoyed again and again as an adult

    Oh, and all the Monty Python films

    My favourites mostly seem to be romcoms, but there it is:

    Four Weddings and a Funeral
    Amelie
    Shakespeare in Love
    Pride & Prejudice (2005)
    Master and Commander
    Gravity
    Airplane
    How depressingly middle-brow.

    The only good ones there are M&C, Gravity and Airplane, while Amelie and P&P(05) are downright shite.
    Thank you for your kind comments ;-)
    Amelie is the pineapple-on-pizza of film.
    Sorry, I don’t make the rules.
    Fortunately you don't.

    Anyhow, I'll take 'depressingly middle-brow' from the man who chose The Sound of Music in his list, lol.
    A great film. Something for everyone.
    Cabaret knocks the pants off it. Come to think of it, why wasn't Cabaret in my list?
    I actually tried to watch Cabaret recently.
    It’s kind of not-very-good, apart obviously from the choreography and the very famous scene in the beer garden.

    I don’t think Fosse was very good with narrative and editing.
    The problem with Cabaret and A Taste of Honey or Sweet Charity is that the sexuality depicted is no longer shocking.

    On the other hand, the sexuality of Last Tango in Paris, Christiana F or The Rocky Horror Picture Show, tells a lot about what went wrong with attitudes to sex in the 1970's.
    A man who is tired of the RHPS is tired of life.
    My aunt is in it! It is a weird film though.
    That makes you the coolest person I have ever interacted with. I am serious.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 48,492
    Miklosvar said:

    Foxy said:

    White Men Can't Jump
    Goodfellas
    Withnail And I
    The Blues Brothers
    Pulp Fiction
    The Commitments
    Dazed And Confused

    I think these are my favourite seven movies

    I know there are better made films with much better acting, but those are the ones I have enjoyed again and again as an adult

    Oh, and all the Monty Python films

    My favourites mostly seem to be romcoms, but there it is:

    Four Weddings and a Funeral
    Amelie
    Shakespeare in Love
    Pride & Prejudice (2005)
    Master and Commander
    Gravity
    Airplane
    How depressingly middle-brow.

    The only good ones there are M&C, Gravity and Airplane, while Amelie and P&P(05) are downright shite.
    Thank you for your kind comments ;-)
    Amelie is the pineapple-on-pizza of film.
    Sorry, I don’t make the rules.
    Fortunately you don't.

    Anyhow, I'll take 'depressingly middle-brow' from the man who chose The Sound of Music in his list, lol.
    A great film. Something for everyone.
    Cabaret knocks the pants off it. Come to think of it, why wasn't Cabaret in my list?
    I actually tried to watch Cabaret recently.
    It’s kind of not-very-good, apart obviously from the choreography and the very famous scene in the beer garden.

    I don’t think Fosse was very good with narrative and editing.
    The problem with Cabaret and A Taste of Honey or Sweet Charity is that the sexuality depicted is no longer shocking.

    On the other hand, the sexuality of Last Tango in Paris, Christiana F or The Rocky Horror Picture Show, tells a lot about what went wrong with attitudes to sex in the 1970's.
    A man who is tired of the RHPS is tired of life.
    Not tired of it and there are some great songs and performances in it, but the sexual politics is really a bit dodgy. Dr Frank n Furter murders his ex (Meatloaf as Eddie) and abuses his sex slave Rocky, and commits rape by deception on both Brad and Janet. Tim Curry is great in the role, bit it is a role depicting narcisstic psychopathy.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 70,565

    The Railway Children
    Goldeneye
    Chariots of Fire
    Silence of the Lambs
    Rear Window
    The Third Man
    Ghostbusters
    The Fifth Element
    Gosford Park

    Rear Window is good, but Vertigo better, I think ?
    The Third Man, definitely.
  • OnlyLivingBoyOnlyLivingBoy Posts: 15,716
    TOPPING said:

    ...

    TOPPING said:

    Everyone has different best films for different moods.

    Right now I'd say:

    Donnie Darko
    Kes
    The Rock
    Distant Voices Still Lives
    Four Lions
    War Requiem
    Prodigal Son/Warriors Two
    The Warriors
    The Long Day Closes
    Black Hawk Down

    Plenty more, that said.

    Should we be hiding your scissors?
    I could also have written Four Lions ten times.
    Would that be Forty Lions?
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 95,918

    Nigelb said:

    White Men Can't Jump
    Goodfellas
    Withnail And I
    The Blues Brothers
    Pulp Fiction
    The Commitments
    Dazed And Confused

    I think these are my favourite seven movies

    I know there are better made films with much better acting, but those are the ones I have enjoyed again and again as an adult

    Oh, and all the Monty Python films

    My favourites mostly seem to be romcoms, but there it is:

    Four Weddings and a Funeral
    Amelie
    Shakespeare in Love
    Pride & Prejudice (2005)
    Master and Commander
    Gravity
    Airplane
    Casablanca
    It's a Wonderful Life
    The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance
    Toy Story 3
    Titanic
    Frozen
    Manon des Sources.
    Casablanca is a stone cold classic which doesn’t pall however many times you watch it.

    Titanic leaves me cold. Frozen has a nice soundtrack.

    I don’t understand the appeal of Goodfellas (or indeed any of those interminable mafia movies where Joe Pesci seems to be playing the same role he did in the last one, or the one before that).
    I adore Titanic. I think it's one of the few modern films that feels like a movie from the golden age of Hollywood, with charismatic stars, glamour and adventure. It is a romantic film, an adventure, a historical movie, a disaster movie, a summer blockbuster, all rolled into one. The two leads are brilliant actors with a genuine chemistry. The special effects are incredible and haven't dated. Even the really corny bits that should be terrible somehow work - that last scene where they are reunited in a kind of Titanic heaven should be completely absurd but leaves me a blubbering wreck every time.
    Frozen is more than the brilliant soundtrack - I find the relationship between the sisters very affecting. Perhaps because I have an older sibling who was a bit troubled and had a difficult childhood and adolescence, it has a lot of resonance for me. It feels emotionally real, which is very hard to get right in art. And it's gorgeous to look at. And it has one of the best songs ever written.
    I have never been interested enough to watch either film. Regarding Titanic, I have a strong prejudice against films where I know the outcome. Especially if that outcome is most people get drownded.

    With Frozen, I've only heard the 'main song' (which I think is very poor - don't think a song that poor would have even made soundtrack on The Little Mermaid.
    Yes, spoiler alert, the ship sinks.
    On Let it Go, sorry, you are simply wrong. This is a song that is so good that it forced them to rewrite the entire film.
    He might appreciate it more if sung in 20 different languages
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BS0T8Cd4UhA&list=FLg5SdxeHca5JpoZ1j9-RpJg&index=85
  • MiklosvarMiklosvar Posts: 1,855
    Foxy said:

    Miklosvar said:

    Foxy said:

    White Men Can't Jump
    Goodfellas
    Withnail And I
    The Blues Brothers
    Pulp Fiction
    The Commitments
    Dazed And Confused

    I think these are my favourite seven movies

    I know there are better made films with much better acting, but those are the ones I have enjoyed again and again as an adult

    Oh, and all the Monty Python films

    My favourites mostly seem to be romcoms, but there it is:

    Four Weddings and a Funeral
    Amelie
    Shakespeare in Love
    Pride & Prejudice (2005)
    Master and Commander
    Gravity
    Airplane
    How depressingly middle-brow.

    The only good ones there are M&C, Gravity and Airplane, while Amelie and P&P(05) are downright shite.
    Thank you for your kind comments ;-)
    Amelie is the pineapple-on-pizza of film.
    Sorry, I don’t make the rules.
    Fortunately you don't.

    Anyhow, I'll take 'depressingly middle-brow' from the man who chose The Sound of Music in his list, lol.
    A great film. Something for everyone.
    Cabaret knocks the pants off it. Come to think of it, why wasn't Cabaret in my list?
    I actually tried to watch Cabaret recently.
    It’s kind of not-very-good, apart obviously from the choreography and the very famous scene in the beer garden.

    I don’t think Fosse was very good with narrative and editing.
    The problem with Cabaret and A Taste of Honey or Sweet Charity is that the sexuality depicted is no longer shocking.

    On the other hand, the sexuality of Last Tango in Paris, Christiana F or The Rocky Horror Picture Show, tells a lot about what went wrong with attitudes to sex in the 1970's.
    A man who is tired of the RHPS is tired of life.
    Not tired of it and there are some great songs and performances in it, but the sexual politics is really a bit dodgy. Dr Frank n Furter murders his ex (Meatloaf as Eddie) and abuses his sex slave Rocky, and commits rape by deception on both Brad and Janet. Tim Curry is great in the role, bit it is a role depicting narcisstic psychopathy.
    Yes of course it is. So is Macbeth.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 95,918
    Foxy said:

    Miklosvar said:

    Foxy said:

    White Men Can't Jump
    Goodfellas
    Withnail And I
    The Blues Brothers
    Pulp Fiction
    The Commitments
    Dazed And Confused

    I think these are my favourite seven movies

    I know there are better made films with much better acting, but those are the ones I have enjoyed again and again as an adult

    Oh, and all the Monty Python films

    My favourites mostly seem to be romcoms, but there it is:

    Four Weddings and a Funeral
    Amelie
    Shakespeare in Love
    Pride & Prejudice (2005)
    Master and Commander
    Gravity
    Airplane
    How depressingly middle-brow.

    The only good ones there are M&C, Gravity and Airplane, while Amelie and P&P(05) are downright shite.
    Thank you for your kind comments ;-)
    Amelie is the pineapple-on-pizza of film.
    Sorry, I don’t make the rules.
    Fortunately you don't.

    Anyhow, I'll take 'depressingly middle-brow' from the man who chose The Sound of Music in his list, lol.
    A great film. Something for everyone.
    Cabaret knocks the pants off it. Come to think of it, why wasn't Cabaret in my list?
    I actually tried to watch Cabaret recently.
    It’s kind of not-very-good, apart obviously from the choreography and the very famous scene in the beer garden.

    I don’t think Fosse was very good with narrative and editing.
    The problem with Cabaret and A Taste of Honey or Sweet Charity is that the sexuality depicted is no longer shocking.

    On the other hand, the sexuality of Last Tango in Paris, Christiana F or The Rocky Horror Picture Show, tells a lot about what went wrong with attitudes to sex in the 1970's.
    A man who is tired of the RHPS is tired of life.
    Not tired of it and there are some great songs and performances in it, but the sexual politics is really a bit dodgy. Dr Frank n Furter murders his ex (Meatloaf as Eddie) and abuses his sex slave Rocky, and commits rape by deception on both Brad and Janet. Tim Curry is great in the role, bit it is a role depicting narcisstic psychopathy.
    People can enjoy sleazy subject matter, perhaps the dodgyness is the point? (I've only seen it once, didn't like it or get why it became a cult hit).
  • EPGEPG Posts: 6,644
    Some other good movies that left me transfixed upon first watching: Laura (1944), Jackie Brown. Taxi Driver came close.

    Some other good movies, mostly not mentioned: La belle et la bete (Cocteau), La grande illusion, Dreyer's Joan of Arc, Cria cuervos, Battle Royale, Branded to Kill, Funeral Parade of Roses, most of Tarantino, There Will Be Blood, High Noon, Anatomy of a Murder (with Duke Ellington!), Treasure of the Sierra Madre, Touch of Evil and most of Welles, plus The Third Man in that connection.
  • StuartinromfordStuartinromford Posts: 17,077
    edited July 2023

    Nigelb said:

    White Men Can't Jump
    Goodfellas
    Withnail And I
    The Blues Brothers
    Pulp Fiction
    The Commitments
    Dazed And Confused

    I think these are my favourite seven movies

    I know there are better made films with much better acting, but those are the ones I have enjoyed again and again as an adult

    Oh, and all the Monty Python films

    My favourites mostly seem to be romcoms, but there it is:

    Four Weddings and a Funeral
    Amelie
    Shakespeare in Love
    Pride & Prejudice (2005)
    Master and Commander
    Gravity
    Airplane
    Casablanca
    It's a Wonderful Life
    The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance
    Toy Story 3
    Titanic
    Frozen
    Manon des Sources.
    Casablanca is a stone cold classic which doesn’t pall however many times you watch it.

    Titanic leaves me cold. Frozen has a nice soundtrack.

    I don’t understand the appeal of Goodfellas (or indeed any of those interminable mafia movies where Joe Pesci seems to be playing the same role he did in the last one, or the one before that).
    I adore Titanic. I think it's one of the few modern films that feels like a movie from the golden age of Hollywood, with charismatic stars, glamour and adventure. It is a romantic film, an adventure, a historical movie, a disaster movie, a summer blockbuster, all rolled into one. The two leads are brilliant actors with a genuine chemistry. The special effects are incredible and haven't dated. Even the really corny bits that should be terrible somehow work - that last scene where they are reunited in a kind of Titanic heaven should be completely absurd but leaves me a blubbering wreck every time.
    Frozen is more than the brilliant soundtrack - I find the relationship between the sisters very affecting. Perhaps because I have an older sibling who was a bit troubled and had a difficult childhood and adolescence, it has a lot of resonance for me. It feels emotionally real, which is very hard to get right in art. And it's gorgeous to look at. And it has one of the best songs ever written.
    I have never been interested enough to watch either film. Regarding Titanic, I have a strong prejudice against films where I know the outcome. Especially if that outcome is most people get drownded.

    With Frozen, I've only heard the 'main song' (which I think is very poor - don't think a song that poor would have even made soundtrack on The Little Mermaid.
    Yes, spoiler alert, the ship sinks.
    On Let it Go, sorry, you are simply wrong. This is a song that is so good that it forced them to rewrite the entire film.
    The kids don't lie. Frozen is the movie that took over their childhood.

    Whereas in the 1970s, we had The Aristocats, Robin Hood with the fox, and Pete's blooming Dragon.

    If you weren't there, you don't know how bad it was.
  • MiklosvarMiklosvar Posts: 1,855

    Nigelb said:

    White Men Can't Jump
    Goodfellas
    Withnail And I
    The Blues Brothers
    Pulp Fiction
    The Commitments
    Dazed And Confused

    I think these are my favourite seven movies

    I know there are better made films with much better acting, but those are the ones I have enjoyed again and again as an adult

    Oh, and all the Monty Python films

    My favourites mostly seem to be romcoms, but there it is:

    Four Weddings and a Funeral
    Amelie
    Shakespeare in Love
    Pride & Prejudice (2005)
    Master and Commander
    Gravity
    Airplane
    Casablanca
    It's a Wonderful Life
    The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance
    Toy Story 3
    Titanic
    Frozen
    Manon des Sources.
    Casablanca is a stone cold classic which doesn’t pall however many times you watch it.

    Titanic leaves me cold. Frozen has a nice soundtrack.

    I don’t understand the appeal of Goodfellas (or indeed any of those interminable mafia movies where Joe Pesci seems to be playing the same role he did in the last one, or the one before that).
    I adore Titanic. I think it's one of the few modern films that feels like a movie from the golden age of Hollywood, with charismatic stars, glamour and adventure. It is a romantic film, an adventure, a historical movie, a disaster movie, a summer blockbuster, all rolled into one. The two leads are brilliant actors with a genuine chemistry. The special effects are incredible and haven't dated. Even the really corny bits that should be terrible somehow work - that last scene where they are reunited in a kind of Titanic heaven should be completely absurd but leaves me a blubbering wreck every time.
    Frozen is more than the brilliant soundtrack - I find the relationship between the sisters very affecting. Perhaps because I have an older sibling who was a bit troubled and had a difficult childhood and adolescence, it has a lot of resonance for me. It feels emotionally real, which is very hard to get right in art. And it's gorgeous to look at. And it has one of the best songs ever written.
    I have never been interested enough to watch either film. Regarding Titanic, I have a strong prejudice against films where I know the outcome. Especially if that outcome is most people get drownded.

    With Frozen, I've only heard the 'main song' (which I think is very poor - don't think a song that poor would have even made soundtrack on The Little Mermaid.
    Yes, spoiler alert, the ship sinks.
    On Let it Go, sorry, you are simply wrong. This is a song that is so good that it forced them to rewrite the entire film.
    Naah, just had a listen. Standard issue musical filler. Elaine Paige (Page?) on Sunday stuff.
  • MiklosvarMiklosvar Posts: 1,855

    Nigelb said:

    White Men Can't Jump
    Goodfellas
    Withnail And I
    The Blues Brothers
    Pulp Fiction
    The Commitments
    Dazed And Confused

    I think these are my favourite seven movies

    I know there are better made films with much better acting, but those are the ones I have enjoyed again and again as an adult

    Oh, and all the Monty Python films

    My favourites mostly seem to be romcoms, but there it is:

    Four Weddings and a Funeral
    Amelie
    Shakespeare in Love
    Pride & Prejudice (2005)
    Master and Commander
    Gravity
    Airplane
    Casablanca
    It's a Wonderful Life
    The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance
    Toy Story 3
    Titanic
    Frozen
    Manon des Sources.
    Casablanca is a stone cold classic which doesn’t pall however many times you watch it.

    Titanic leaves me cold. Frozen has a nice soundtrack.

    I don’t understand the appeal of Goodfellas (or indeed any of those interminable mafia movies where Joe Pesci seems to be playing the same role he did in the last one, or the one before that).
    I adore Titanic. I think it's one of the few modern films that feels like a movie from the golden age of Hollywood, with charismatic stars, glamour and adventure. It is a romantic film, an adventure, a historical movie, a disaster movie, a summer blockbuster, all rolled into one. The two leads are brilliant actors with a genuine chemistry. The special effects are incredible and haven't dated. Even the really corny bits that should be terrible somehow work - that last scene where they are reunited in a kind of Titanic heaven should be completely absurd but leaves me a blubbering wreck every time.
    Frozen is more than the brilliant soundtrack - I find the relationship between the sisters very affecting. Perhaps because I have an older sibling who was a bit troubled and had a difficult childhood and adolescence, it has a lot of resonance for me. It feels emotionally real, which is very hard to get right in art. And it's gorgeous to look at. And it has one of the best songs ever written.
    I have never been interested enough to watch either film. Regarding Titanic, I have a strong prejudice against films where I know the outcome. Especially if that outcome is most people get drownded.

    With Frozen, I've only heard the 'main song' (which I think is very poor - don't think a song that poor would have even made soundtrack on The Little Mermaid.
    Yes, spoiler alert, the ship sinks.
    On Let it Go, sorry, you are simply wrong. This is a song that is so good that it forced them to rewrite the entire film.

    Nigelb said:

    White Men Can't Jump
    Goodfellas
    Withnail And I
    The Blues Brothers
    Pulp Fiction
    The Commitments
    Dazed And Confused

    I think these are my favourite seven movies

    I know there are better made films with much better acting, but those are the ones I have enjoyed again and again as an adult

    Oh, and all the Monty Python films

    My favourites mostly seem to be romcoms, but there it is:

    Four Weddings and a Funeral
    Amelie
    Shakespeare in Love
    Pride & Prejudice (2005)
    Master and Commander
    Gravity
    Airplane
    Casablanca
    It's a Wonderful Life
    The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance
    Toy Story 3
    Titanic
    Frozen
    Manon des Sources.
    Casablanca is a stone cold classic which doesn’t pall however many times you watch it.

    Titanic leaves me cold. Frozen has a nice soundtrack.

    I don’t understand the appeal of Goodfellas (or indeed any of those interminable mafia movies where Joe Pesci seems to be playing the same role he did in the last one, or the one before that).
    I adore Titanic. I think it's one of the few modern films that feels like a movie from the golden age of Hollywood, with charismatic stars, glamour and adventure. It is a romantic film, an adventure, a historical movie, a disaster movie, a summer blockbuster, all rolled into one. The two leads are brilliant actors with a genuine chemistry. The special effects are incredible and haven't dated. Even the really corny bits that should be terrible somehow work - that last scene where they are reunited in a kind of Titanic heaven should be completely absurd but leaves me a blubbering wreck every time.
    Frozen is more than the brilliant soundtrack - I find the relationship between the sisters very affecting. Perhaps because I have an older sibling who was a bit troubled and had a difficult childhood and adolescence, it has a lot of resonance for me. It feels emotionally real, which is very hard to get right in art. And it's gorgeous to look at. And it has one of the best songs ever written.
    I have never been interested enough to watch either film. Regarding Titanic, I have a strong prejudice against films where I know the outcome. Especially if that outcome is most people get drownded.

    With Frozen, I've only heard the 'main song' (which I think is very poor - don't think a song that poor would have even made soundtrack on The Little Mermaid.
    Yes, spoiler alert, the ship sinks.
    On Let it Go, sorry, you are simply wrong. This is a song that is so good that it forced them to rewrite the entire film.
    The kids don't lie. Frozen is the movie that took over their childhood.

    Whereas in the 1970s, we had The Aristocats, Robin Hood with the fox, and Pete's blooming Dragon.

    If you weren't there, you don't know how bad it was.
    My kids it was Toy Story, Shrek, Chicken Run. Which mase it a pretty good time to have kids.
  • OnlyLivingBoyOnlyLivingBoy Posts: 15,716

    The Railway Children
    Goldeneye
    Chariots of Fire
    Silence of the Lambs
    Rear Window
    The Third Man
    Ghostbusters
    The Fifth Element
    Gosford Park

    Oh the Railway Children... Daddy my daddy... Kills me every time.
    Rear Window is probably my favourite Hitchcock too. James Stewart and Grace Kelly, what's not to like?
    Ghostbusters, though? I feel like that is the poster child of films you enjoyed as a child that are actually fucking terrible.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 48,492
    edited July 2023
    Miklosvar said:

    Foxy said:

    Miklosvar said:

    Foxy said:

    White Men Can't Jump
    Goodfellas
    Withnail And I
    The Blues Brothers
    Pulp Fiction
    The Commitments
    Dazed And Confused

    I think these are my favourite seven movies

    I know there are better made films with much better acting, but those are the ones I have enjoyed again and again as an adult

    Oh, and all the Monty Python films

    My favourites mostly seem to be romcoms, but there it is:

    Four Weddings and a Funeral
    Amelie
    Shakespeare in Love
    Pride & Prejudice (2005)
    Master and Commander
    Gravity
    Airplane
    How depressingly middle-brow.

    The only good ones there are M&C, Gravity and Airplane, while Amelie and P&P(05) are downright shite.
    Thank you for your kind comments ;-)
    Amelie is the pineapple-on-pizza of film.
    Sorry, I don’t make the rules.
    Fortunately you don't.

    Anyhow, I'll take 'depressingly middle-brow' from the man who chose The Sound of Music in his list, lol.
    A great film. Something for everyone.
    Cabaret knocks the pants off it. Come to think of it, why wasn't Cabaret in my list?
    I actually tried to watch Cabaret recently.
    It’s kind of not-very-good, apart obviously from the choreography and the very famous scene in the beer garden.

    I don’t think Fosse was very good with narrative and editing.
    The problem with Cabaret and A Taste of Honey or Sweet Charity is that the sexuality depicted is no longer shocking.

    On the other hand, the sexuality of Last Tango in Paris, Christiana F or The Rocky Horror Picture Show, tells a lot about what went wrong with attitudes to sex in the 1970's.
    A man who is tired of the RHPS is tired of life.
    Not tired of it and there are some great songs and performances in it, but the sexual politics is really a bit dodgy. Dr Frank n Furter murders his ex (Meatloaf as Eddie) and abuses his sex slave Rocky, and commits rape by deception on both Brad and Janet. Tim Curry is great in the role, bit it is a role depicting narcisstic psychopathy.
    Yes of course it is. So is Macbeth.
    The difference is that RHPS is often seen as sexually liberating, and Dr Frank n Furter as a role model. It really is much darker. I didn't even mention the cannibalism scene.
  • MiklosvarMiklosvar Posts: 1,855
    EPG said:

    Some other good movies that left me transfixed upon first watching: Laura (1944), Jackie Brown. Taxi Driver came close.

    Some other good movies, mostly not mentioned: La belle et la bete (Cocteau), La grande illusion, Dreyer's Joan of Arc, Cria cuervos, Battle Royale, Branded to Kill, Funeral Parade of Roses, most of Tarantino, There Will Be Blood, High Noon, Anatomy of a Murder (with Duke Ellington!), Treasure of the Sierra Madre, Touch of Evil and most of Welles, plus The Third Man in that connection.

    Key Largo. The bit where Bogart gets pissed off and starts shooting people is up there with the bit in the Odyssey where Od starts doing the same.
  • Richard_TyndallRichard_Tyndall Posts: 32,288

    There was a very odd post this morning about the Sun “popping champagne”.

    But they’ve fucked this up, haven’t they?

    One does hope so.

    I can't bear the smug Edwards, but the Sun's vile sting operation has been truly evil.
    I cannot help but feel that if these revelations were coming out about Andrew Neil, or Jacob Rees Mogg, or the Duke of York, the PB-ers currently clutching their pearls about 'mental health', 'vile sting operation' etc. would be singing a somewhat different tune.
    Well I wouldn't. I would say exactly the same thing if this were Sadiq Khan, Nicola Sturgeon or James O'Brien, all of whom I fucking detest.

    No one who has not committed a crime deserves to have their private lives turned upside down like this just to sell a few newspapers or launch a thinly veiled ideological attack on the state broadcasting service. And again I say that as someone who would gladly see the BBC privatised.

    This has been a despicable act by the Sun and by all those other commentators who jumped on the band wagon. It shows our media and our country at its very worst and is something to be ashamed of.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 122,374
    edited July 2023
    Charlie Davis, who supported a 2nd referendum on Brexit, is picked as Tory candidate for Eltham and Chislehurst tonight.

    Clear some of the Conservative candidates selected under Rishi Sunak are somewhat different to those mostly picked under Boris Johnson in 2019. Even if Bromley and Greenwich both voted Remain
    https://twitter.com/tomorrowsmps/status/1679130911864938496?s=20
    https://twitter.com/tomorrowsmps/status/1679238091700158468?s=20
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