I think this straight down line is out of date now
At least half of recent polls show Tory’s on up compared to recent from pollster
Indeed the pollingreport seats has Tory’s on the rise again.
Why does polling report still have 44 SNP?
Rishi now getting more seats than Major 1997 and Hague 2001.
So much for the Tories heading for their worst defeat of all time!
Don't worry. The full dire extent will sink in after a few weeks of the tedious leadership of Keir Starmer. If the Tories do lose the next GE, they won't have lost to Harold Wilson, Tony Blair, or even Clement Atlee.
They'll have lost to Keir Starmer. That will hurt.
That's Sir Keir 'Hammer of the Tories, Vanquisher of the Corbynites' Starmer, thank you very much.
Edit: I jest, because to me he's just 'ok', but maybe those people putting him forward as a potential leader weeks after being elected in 2015 were right all along!
It’s amazing how many people had no problem admitting that Elon Musk is seriously smart - until he revealed that he is quite right wing. At which point he miraculously morphed into a stuttering moron who just keeps getting lucky
Musk strikes me as one of those super smart people who is also a bit dumb in certain respects, certainly in his dealings with people. Spending time in academia and then finance I have come across many people who fall into this category, Musk just seems one of the more extreme examples.
He’s likes to think he's autistic and he’s confessed this. That’s the issue
FTFY
I know a fair few actually-diagnosed high functioning autistic people. Musk ticks all the boxes. Newton and Einstein were, it is thought, high functioning autistics
I also wonder about Gerard Manley Hopkins. Tremendous intelligent and an incredible focused talent. Genius. Yet apparently hopelessly awkward in society and prone to saying weird things and making terrible faux pas
Firstly, thank you for a politer answer than my sarky response deserved.
Secondly, we are never going to agree on this. I am perfectly willing to believe in the existence of autism, but the medical paradigm should be limited to those who are significantly (life-changing) affected by it. Widening the definition to people who can cope well in normal life but just feel a bit off isn't a good idea:
For the medical paradigm to be useful it must meet certain criteria (can you diagnose it, can you measure the difference between the sick and the well, is the phenomenon a problem, and so on). What you refer to as high-functioning autisistic spectrum disorder doesn't really meet these criteria on a least one basic criteria (does the patient want to be cured) and more fittingly should be categorised as within normal (Gaussian, not acceptable) human variation.
I do however note your later (and previous) insistence that as you have a friend who feels better by identifying as an Aspie, then it is legitimate. God forbid I should ever disagree with the fads and fancies of the rich, but having an identity that makes you feel better is not the same as a disease and shouldn't be treated as such
Autism is very much not a disease. It's intrinsic to one's very consciousness if present. Elon is quite clearly on the spectrum. That I felt was clear when I watched one of his presentations years back.
It’s amazing how many people had no problem admitting that Elon Musk is seriously smart - until he revealed that he is quite right wing. At which point he miraculously morphed into a stuttering moron who just keeps getting lucky
Musk strikes me as one of those super smart people who is also a bit dumb in certain respects, certainly in his dealings with people. Spending time in academia and then finance I have come across many people who fall into this category, Musk just seems one of the more extreme examples.
He’s likes to think he's autistic and he’s confessed this. That’s the issue
FTFY
Do one, actually. Autism is hard enough to deal with without creepy insinuations that it's a lifestyle choice. And is there anything more pathetic than that ftfy thing?
If autism is not a lifestyle choice then the diagnosis should not be widened to include people who wish to adopt it just to feel validated. Which was the point I was making.
How do you know that is what Musk is doing?
Because a man capable of forming relationships, fathering children and parenting them, forming companies, suborning existing ones, employing people and carrying on thru the day and his life does not have a problem that is tractable in medical terms. I'd believe him if he said he was socially awkward and says strange things. My issue arises when that condition is defined as an illness, because illnesses don't work like that. I'm not saying he hasn't got "it", I'm saying that "it" is not an illness.
It’s amazing how many people had no problem admitting that Elon Musk is seriously smart - until he revealed that he is quite right wing. At which point he miraculously morphed into a stuttering moron who just keeps getting lucky
Musk strikes me as one of those super smart people who is also a bit dumb in certain respects, certainly in his dealings with people. Spending time in academia and then finance I have come across many people who fall into this category, Musk just seems one of the more extreme examples.
He’s likes to think he's autistic and he’s confessed this. That’s the issue
FTFY
I know a fair few actually-diagnosed high functioning autistic people. Musk ticks all the boxes. Newton and Einstein were, it is thought, high functioning autistics
I also wonder about Gerard Manley Hopkins. Tremendous intelligent and an incredible focused talent. Genius. Yet apparently hopelessly awkward in society and prone to saying weird things and making terrible faux pas
Firstly, thank you for a politer answer than my sarky response deserved.
Secondly, we are never going to agree on this. I am perfectly willing to believe in the existence of autism, but the medical paradigm should be limited to those who are significantly (life-changing) affected by it. Widening the definition to people who can cope well in normal life but just feel a bit off isn't a good idea:
For the medical paradigm to be useful it must meet certain criteria (can you diagnose it, can you measure the difference between the sick and the well, is the phenomenon a problem, and so on). What you refer to as high-functioning autisistic spectrum disorder doesn't really meet these criteria on a least one basic criteria (does the patient want to be cured) and more fittingly should be categorised as within normal (Gaussian, not acceptable) human variation.
I do however note your later (and previous) insistence that as you have a friend who feels better by identifying as an Aspie, then it is legitimate. God forbid I should ever disagree with the fads and fancies of the rich, but having an identity that makes you feel better is not the same as a disease and shouldn't be treated as such
Autism is very much not a disease. It's intrinsic to one's very consciousness if present. Elon is quite clearly on the spectrum. That I felt was clear when I watched one of his presentations years back.
Quite so. If you watch Musk's first 2 hour podcast with Rogan, it says I AM AUTISTIC from minute 1
It’s amazing how many people had no problem admitting that Elon Musk is seriously smart - until he revealed that he is quite right wing. At which point he miraculously morphed into a stuttering moron who just keeps getting lucky
Musk strikes me as one of those super smart people who is also a bit dumb in certain respects, certainly in his dealings with people. Spending time in academia and then finance I have come across many people who fall into this category, Musk just seems one of the more extreme examples.
He’s likes to think he's autistic and he’s confessed this. That’s the issue
FTFY
Do one, actually. Autism is hard enough to deal with without creepy insinuations that it's a lifestyle choice. And is there anything more pathetic than that ftfy thing?
If autism is not a lifestyle choice then the diagnosis should not be widened to include people who wish to adopt it just to feel validated. Which was the point I was making.
How do you know that is what Musk is doing?
Because a man capable of forming relationships, fathering children and parenting them, forming companies, suborning existing ones, employing people and carrying on thru the day and his life does not have a problem that is tractable in medical terms. I'd believe him if he said he was socially awkward and says strange things. My issue arises when that condition is defined as an illness, because illnesses don't work like that. I'm not saying he hasn't got "it", I'm saying that "it" is not an illness.
I don't think illness is the only paradigm through which you can view medically diagnosable states.
That's why it's called Autistic Spectrum Disorder and not Autistic Spectrum Disease.
Fundamentally. Asperger's meant an intelligent* austistic person. That's why it was removed.
*Intelligent having many definitions.
And quite a few "Aspies" have reclaimed it, and use it for themselves, and you have no right to deny that
I can think of a great many things where that is the case, yet people argue about it all the time.
As with any self label isn't the key thing about whether other people should be obliged to act in a certain way in reaction to a self labelling, beyond mere polite acceptance of that self label? Or, indeed, are people required to even accept someone else's label, particularly if it would cause confusion with something that is formally diagnosed?
It’s amazing how many people had no problem admitting that Elon Musk is seriously smart - until he revealed that he is quite right wing. At which point he miraculously morphed into a stuttering moron who just keeps getting lucky
Musk strikes me as one of those super smart people who is also a bit dumb in certain respects, certainly in his dealings with people. Spending time in academia and then finance I have come across many people who fall into this category, Musk just seems one of the more extreme examples.
He’s likes to think he's autistic and he’s confessed this. That’s the issue
FTFY
Do one, actually. Autism is hard enough to deal with without creepy insinuations that it's a lifestyle choice. And is there anything more pathetic than that ftfy thing?
Absolutely right. It’s not fun and it’s something people admit easily and Musk has - as I correctly surmised - publicly discussed his autism. I salute him for that alone
Asperger's isn't even a term used these days. So that's profoundly unhelpful.
Fuck me. So in leftieland he's not allowed to self identfy as Asperger's? tho it's OK for people with cocks to self identify as "women"?
More that Asperger's isn't a term really used in clinical terms; it was merged into ASD for diagnostic purposes a few years ago I think.
Not everything has to be about culture wars y'know.
Except that there are these people called "Aspies" who PREFER to identify as Asperger's as they believe the old category suits their character traits better. Musk is clearly an Aspie. Good luck to him
If he so wishes to identify, who the fuck has the right to say NO? Honestly. Lefties. They drive me insane
I wasn't saying no?
Hmm. Fair enough. But others were
How dare they say what Musk admits about himself is "profoundly unhelpful" simply because it doesn't fit some new diagnostic criteria which are:
1. controversial, and
2. rejected by many actually autistic people and
3. likely to be changed again in time, as they always are?
If someone came to you and said "I have cancer" but they used the wrong technical word for their tumour would you criticise them? How about starting off with "that's brave of you to admit, can't be easy"
I went over 10,000 comments today and didn’t notice. I’ve been on here 4 1/2 years. @MoonRabbit has been on just over 18 months and done far more than me. I am an amateur.
It’s amazing how many people had no problem admitting that Elon Musk is seriously smart - until he revealed that he is quite right wing. At which point he miraculously morphed into a stuttering moron who just keeps getting lucky
Musk strikes me as one of those super smart people who is also a bit dumb in certain respects, certainly in his dealings with people. Spending time in academia and then finance I have come across many people who fall into this category, Musk just seems one of the more extreme examples.
He’s likes to think he's autistic and he’s confessed this. That’s the issue
FTFY
Do one, actually. Autism is hard enough to deal with without creepy insinuations that it's a lifestyle choice. And is there anything more pathetic than that ftfy thing?
If autism is not a lifestyle choice then the diagnosis should not be widened to include people who wish to adopt it just to feel validated. Which was the point I was making.
How do you know that is what Musk is doing?
Because a man capable of forming relationships, fathering children and parenting them, forming companies, suborning existing ones, employing people and carrying on thru the day and his life does not have a problem that is tractable in medical terms. I'd believe him if he said he was socially awkward and says strange things. My issue arises when that condition is defined as an illness, because illnesses don't work like that. I'm not saying he hasn't got "it", I'm saying that "it" is not an illness.
I don't think illness is the only paradigm through which you can view medically diagnosable states.
That's why it's called Autistic Spectrum Disorder and not Autistic Spectrum Disease.
OK: consider the above modified to say "disorder" instead of/as well as "disease"
[Addendum: Fair point, but we are now arguing about the boundaries of "disorder". Specifically, should the medical paradigm be used for this thing? At what point does it stop being "person with a real problem" and start being "vague feeling of unease". Can it be objectively diagnosed? What's the error rate of such diagnoses? Is there a treatment and if so, does it work? Does the person want to be cured? What purpose does defining it as a disorder serve?]
I went over 10,000 comments today and didn’t notice. I’ve been on here 4 1/2 years. @MoonRabbit has been on just over 18 months and done far more than me. I am an amateur.
I must have read hundreds of thousands of the fucking things
This one refers to a former chancellor. It's all the rage on Twitter at the moment
(This link isn't the actual e-mail, you'll have to find it for yourself since TSE will lock me up with Max Verstappen and force feed me Pineapple Pizzas if I link to it)
A disorder is a disruption to regular bodily structure and function. A syndrome is a collection of signs and symptoms associated with a specific health-related cause. A condition is an abnormal state of health that interferes with normal or regular feelings of wellbeing
I went over 10,000 comments today and didn’t notice. I’ve been on here 4 1/2 years. @MoonRabbit has been on just over 18 months and done far more than me. I am an amateur.
It’s amazing how many people had no problem admitting that Elon Musk is seriously smart - until he revealed that he is quite right wing. At which point he miraculously morphed into a stuttering moron who just keeps getting lucky
Musk strikes me as one of those super smart people who is also a bit dumb in certain respects, certainly in his dealings with people. Spending time in academia and then finance I have come across many people who fall into this category, Musk just seems one of the more extreme examples.
He’s likes to think he's autistic and he’s confessed this. That’s the issue
FTFY
Do one, actually. Autism is hard enough to deal with without creepy insinuations that it's a lifestyle choice. And is there anything more pathetic than that ftfy thing?
If autism is not a lifestyle choice then the diagnosis should not be widened to include people who wish to adopt it just to feel validated. Which was the point I was making.
How do you know that is what Musk is doing?
Because a man capable of forming relationships, fathering children and parenting them, forming companies, suborning existing ones, employing people and carrying on thru the day and his life does not have a problem that is tractable in medical terms. I'd believe him if he said he was socially awkward and says strange things. My issue arises when that condition is defined as an illness, because illnesses don't work like that. I'm not saying he hasn't got "it", I'm saying that "it" is not an illness.
I don't think illness is the only paradigm through which you can view medically diagnosable states.
That's why it's called Autistic Spectrum Disorder and not Autistic Spectrum Disease.
OK: consider the above modified to say "disorder" instead of/as well as "disease"
[Addendum: Fair point, but we are now arguing about the boundaries of "disorder". Specifically, should the medical paradigm be used for this thing? At what point does it stop being "person with a real problem" and start being "vague feeling of unease". Can it be objectively diagnosed? What's the error rate of such diagnoses? Is there a treatment and if so, does it work? Does the person want to be cured? What purpose does defining it as a disorder serve?]
All classifications have fuzzy boundaries, so you can look at any classification or diagnosis of a disorder or a disease and find people at the boundary where you might dispute if they really have a real problem. Many people applied your exact arguments over ASD to Covid-19.
That doesn't mean it isn't a real thing that is useful to be able to diagnose.
I have a diagnosis for ASD. It's useful for me, and for the medical professionals who help me with my mental health, to have that diagnosis as a core foundation on which to build an understanding of my psychology and to design coping strategies and anticipate difficult situations.
I've been married twice, have one child, have held down reasonably well-paid jobs, and sometimes react to stressful arguments by doing things like pouring a glass of water over my head.
I'm really not sure what your problem is with ASD as a diagnosis, but I find it quite hostile and unpleasant.
I'm really not sure what your problem is with ASD as a diagnosis, but I find it quite hostile and unpleasant.
It's not intended as such I assure you. My stance is as explained: by stretching the definition it falls outside the boundaries of medicine. It's not meant to insult you nor belittle you. It is meant to question the usefulness of the medical paradigm and consider whether we need another definition to cover cases like this.
Just caught up with the cricket score. Typical Headingley day. Relatively low scoring match with lots of wickets, although one or two batsmen have done well. Interesting how the stereotypes about particular grounds often seem to be true.
Either the ramblings of a deranged schizophrenic, or the juciest gossip ever. Who knows?
Push the envelope: what email? PM me if you don't want to say out loud.
PM'd. Enjoy.
Most kind, thank you. I've read it and, well, that's a bit of a bombshell and no mistake...
If it's not true, it's extremely well done.
If it's wholly the work of someone who's professionally disinterested, it's especially well done. Perhaps unbelievably so. But I wonder what the threat of "Just got to choose who’s next" is about.
Either the ramblings of a deranged schizophrenic, or the juciest gossip ever. Who knows?
Push the envelope: what email? PM me if you don't want to say out loud.
PM'd. Enjoy.
Most kind, thank you. I've read it and, well, that's a bit of a bombshell and no mistake...
If it's not true, it's extremely well done.
If it's wholly the work of someone who's professionally disinterested, it's especially well done. Perhaps unbelievably so. But I wonder what the threat of "Just got to choose who’s next" is about.
Better than most average Russian trolls, certainly.
If all hearts were open and all desires known — as they would be if people showed their souls — how many gapings, sighings, clenched fists, knotted brows, broad grins, and red eyes should we see in the market-place!
It’s just a standard thing, you know know, where people are passionate in their work, and try not to take it home with them, as that wouldn’t go down very well at all. In some jobs though, such as publishing, you have to shout “it’s a stop” otherwise what happens if you don’t?
On second reading, I think it's fabricated or at least elaborated. The green room paragraph is a bit of a tell.
True in all details seems unlikely. If (Spartan) it's not professional work, the author may not be being 100% true to themselves about their motivation which is not a recipe for clear perception and analysis. Then again, 90% wouldn't be bad.
Skeletons dancing in closets is an unusual turn of phrase.
My daughter is ringing the bells for a wedding tomorrow. I don't know who the couple are, but, given what we know about human relationships in general, the chances aren't that low that the email could have been written about that couple, or any one of the large number of other couples marrying this weekend.
There is a bunch of corroborating evidence, so I am pretty sure some of it is true (and it chimes with gossip I have heard) BUT the whole thing reads too much like a vengeful, rather hysterical takedown, by some slighted person (an ex?) so I suspect there are enormous amounts of exaggeration, as well, if not outright lies
There is a bunch of corroborating evidence, so I am pretty sure some of it is true (and it chimes with gossip I have heard) BUT the whole thing reads too much like a vengeful, rather hysterical takedown, by some slighted person (an ex?) so I suspect there are enormous amounts of exaggeration, as well, if not outright lies
My guess is that the stuff involving ladies over 25 is true, and the stuff involving ladies under 25 is made up.
The stuff about his boring the pants off a whole dinner party in Italy by whinging about Brexit rings true though.
There is a bunch of corroborating evidence, so I am pretty sure some of it is true (and it chimes with gossip I have heard) BUT the whole thing reads too much like a vengeful, rather hysterical takedown, by some slighted person (an ex?) so I suspect there are enormous amounts of exaggeration, as well, if not outright lies
My guess is that the stuff involving ladies over 25 is true, and the stuff involving ladies under 25 is made up.
The stuff about his boring the pants off a whole dinner party in Italy by whinging about Brexit rings true though.
The email writer would have been better adopting a less catty, bitchy, hateful style of prose
I like it when people let rip as themselves. "To touch serenity with a finger wet with tears." But what if it's put on in this case, though, and the author is professionally disinterested? Pretty skilled piece of work if so.
On second reading, I think it's fabricated or at least elaborated. The green room paragraph is a bit of a tell.
True in all details seems unlikely. If (Spartan) it's not professional work, the author may not be being 100% true to themselves about their motivation which is not a recipe for clear perception and analysis. Then again, 90% wouldn't be bad.
Skeletons dancing in closets is an unusual turn of phrase.
Important witness at the Post Office Inquiry Gareth Jenkins was supposed to be giving evidence yesterday. He didn't do so because at the last moment the Post Office disclosed a further 4,767 potentially relevant documents which made it impossible to fairly hear his evidence. Head of the inquiry Sir Wyn Williams was not happy with this turn of events.
Important witness at the Post Office Inquiry Gareth Jenkins was supposed to be giving evidence yesterday. He didn't do so because at the last moment the Post Office disclosed a further 4,767 potentially relevant documents which made it impossible to fairly hear his evidence.
What's the story with the (BOY) George Osborne email that's been trending on Twitter? @TheScreamingEagles
George Osborne is a good Muslim boy.
I have PM'd you the full email, if you haven't seen it.
Thanks. I've read it now... 👍
Not sure what to make of it... BUT... here's what I think (and remember I'm no fan of George Osborne - OGH once banned for 12hrs me for calling him a "creep" - The first and only time I was banned here in 17 years)
....
If George is indeed a cheating son-of-a-bitch, the poster (whoever he/she/they/them) is should have messaged "Thea" privately with their "evidence" rather than sharing it all over the internet.
It very much reads like a bitter, desperate and vengeful Corbynista (or one of George's original ex's) trying to ruin Thea's happy day (always remember the wedding day is the BRIDES day - which is a pretty scummy thing to do, whatever your politics, IMO)
Remember, everyone.... An eye for and eye... AND THE WHOLE WORLD GOES BLIND...
The entire thing is all over Twitter (not threads). I don’t think you are guarding a dragon’s lair of secret gossip. Sorry
I was enabling a freer and more forthright discussion without exposing OGH to legal problems. Resorting to euphemism. circumlocution or innuendo is for children.
What's the story with the (BOY) George Osborne email that's been trending on Twitter? @TheScreamingEagles
George Osborne is a good Muslim boy.
I have PM'd you the full email, if you haven't seen it.
Thanks. I've read it now... 👍
Not sure what to make of it... BUT... here's what I think (and remember I'm no fan of George Osborne - OGH once banned for 12hrs me for calling him a "creep" - The first and only time I was banned here in 17 years)
....
If George is indeed a cheating son-of-a-bitch, the poster (whoever he/she/they/them) is should have messaged "Thea" privately with their "evidence" rather than sharing it all over the internet.
It very much reads like a bitter, desperate and vengeful Corbynista (or one of George's original ex's) trying to ruin Thea's happy day (always remember the wedding day is the BRIDES day - which is a pretty scummy thing to do, whatever your politics, IMO)
Remember, everyone.... An eye for and eye... AND THE WHOLE WORLD GOES BLIND...
It reads like a jilted ex to me. It feels very personal, not at all political.
I won't post here again before August, so I wish George and Thea all the best and hope their lives are full of love, joy and happiness...
BUT,,,
Thea...
If it turns out George is ultimately a lying, cheating, sniveling son-of-a-bitch who ***** you liked he ****** the British people from 2010 to 2015... make sure you take the b*stard for every penny you can! 😂
Am amazed RCS has to ask a pack of PBers re the stupid email.
Seeing as how it took me all of 10 seconds worth of googling before I was reading it.
Or about half of it, gave up as it was way less than edifying, enlightening, entertaining or exciting (plus bunch of other e-words) than graffiti at a bus station toilet.
Am amazed RCS has to ask a pack of PBers re the stupid email.
Seeing as how it took me all of 10 seconds worth of googling before I was reading it.
Or about half of it, gave up as it was way less than edifying, enlightening, entertaining or exciting (plus bunch of other e-words) than graffiti at a bus station toilet.
Yes, you’d just press the delete button if someone sent you this.
Now, I have read some extremely funny hate mail from jilted ex’s, during my professional career, in which the miscreant partner’s shortcomings are laid bare pitilessly, but this isn’t one such.
Am amazed RCS has to ask a pack of PBers re the stupid email.
Seeing as how it took me all of 10 seconds worth of googling before I was reading it.
Or about half of it, gave up as it was way less than edifying, enlightening, entertaining or exciting (plus bunch of other e-words) than graffiti at a bus station toilet.
That’s a great summary. I came across it on Twitter. It’s hardly earth shattering stuff. Or certainly the bit I read wasn’t.
What's the story with the (BOY) George Osborne email that's been trending on Twitter? @TheScreamingEagles
George Osborne is a good Muslim boy.
I have PM'd you the full email, if you haven't seen it.
Thanks. I've read it now... 👍
Not sure what to make of it... BUT... here's what I think (and remember I'm no fan of George Osborne - OGH once banned for 12hrs me for calling him a "creep" - The first and only time I was banned here in 17 years)
....
If George is indeed a cheating son-of-a-bitch, the poster (whoever he/she/they/them) is should have messaged "Thea" privately with their "evidence" rather than sharing it all over the internet.
It very much reads like a bitter, desperate and vengeful Corbynista (or one of George's original ex's) trying to ruin Thea's happy day (always remember the wedding day is the BRIDES day - which is a pretty scummy thing to do, whatever your politics, IMO)
Remember, everyone.... An eye for and eye... AND THE WHOLE WORLD GOES BLIND...
Are you sure that’s what the ban was for and not for a subtle reference to Radiohead’s seminal track which just happens to have the same name.
I went over 10,000 comments today and didn’t notice. I’ve been on here 4 1/2 years. @MoonRabbit has been on just over 18 months and done far more than me. I am an amateur.
She’s also half your age and (probably) has done far more than you…
I went over 10,000 comments today and didn’t notice. I’ve been on here 4 1/2 years. @MoonRabbit has been on just over 18 months and done far more than me. I am an amateur.
She’s also half your age and (probably) has done far more than you…
She wasn't the first to recognise ex the remarkable comeback potential of Truss.
Let's draw a veil over who has done whom, shall we ?
Am amazed RCS has to ask a pack of PBers re the stupid email.
Seeing as how it took me all of 10 seconds worth of googling before I was reading it.
Or about half of it, gave up as it was way less than edifying, enlightening, entertaining or exciting (plus bunch of other e-words) than graffiti at a bus station toilet.
Perhaps - but if you're using Twitter efficiently, you wouldn't have seen it, unless you glanced at 'trending'. Didn't appear on my feed.
Cost of Euston HS2 terminus could race past £4.8bn estimate, MPs say Overspend blamed on government indecision https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/jul/07/cost-of-euston-hs2-terminus-could-race-past-4-point-8bn-estimate-mps-say ...In a highly critical report, MPs on the committee said the Department for Transport (DfT) was yet to “establish the design and expectations for the station” against what it was “willing to spend”, despite spending more than eight years planning and designing the London terminus...
It’s amazing how many people had no problem admitting that Elon Musk is seriously smart - until he revealed that he is quite right wing. At which point he miraculously morphed into a stuttering moron who just keeps getting lucky
Musk strikes me as one of those super smart people who is also a bit dumb in certain respects, certainly in his dealings with people. Spending time in academia and then finance I have come across many people who fall into this category, Musk just seems one of the more extreme examples.
He’s likes to think he's autistic and he’s confessed this. That’s the issue
FTFY
Do one, actually. Autism is hard enough to deal with without creepy insinuations that it's a lifestyle choice. And is there anything more pathetic than that ftfy thing?
Absolutely right. It’s not fun and it’s something people admit easily and Musk has - as I correctly surmised - publicly discussed his autism. I salute him for that alone
Asperger's isn't even a term used these days. So that's profoundly unhelpful.
Fuck me. So in leftieland he's not allowed to self identfy as Asperger's? tho it's OK for people with cocks to self identify as "women"?
No. Nowt to do with politics. It's been removed as of 2013 from DSM-5, as no satisfactory distinction from other forms of autism could be made. Hence the term ASD which it was merged with in 2021 under ICD-11. Autistic Spectrum Disorder. So. From 2013 you couldn't be diagnosed with Asperger's. You can self identify as whatever you like as ever. But it ain't very helpful.
It's his fucking choice. Dipshit
And there is massive controvery in autist-land over the removal of these terms: Asperger's, high functioning, etc
Don't call me a dipshit. I don't identify as such. Glad to see you defend someone's choice to self identify in the teeth of medical opinion. Imho. As a professional working in the area, ADHD is under diagnosed. And ASD over. Like anxiety and depression a few years back. Similarly, the two are often overlapping and can be confused.
Fair enough. But this issue makes me personally angry
Probably because a very close relative of mine has recently been officially diagnosed as ASD and this person was told "we would once have diagnosed you as Aspie, and high functioning, but this is no longer officially allowed even though we think it useful", then this person went away and read up on all of it and decided "fuck yeah, I'm Aspie": - ie: high functioning, socially awkward, doesn't need much or any help with daily living, but has real and grave problems in certain situations, highly intelligent etc
This person, close to me, has self identified as Aspie and it brings this person a lot of consolation - and also practical assistance: because this person now reaches out to other self-identified "Aspies" and finds common ground, AND a social network. And Elon Musk is therefore a bit of an inspiration. The richest-ish man in the world says he's Aspie. Yay
Good luck to them all
Self-diagnosed Aspergers has been fashionable amongst a certain type of tech nerd since the internet decided decades ago Bill Gates had it (also the "richest-ish man in the world"). Self-diagnosed ADHD was also popular in the United States after the amphetamines used to treat it became known as "smart drugs".
It’s amazing how many people had no problem admitting that Elon Musk is seriously smart - until he revealed that he is quite right wing. At which point he miraculously morphed into a stuttering moron who just keeps getting lucky
Musk strikes me as one of those super smart people who is also a bit dumb in certain respects, certainly in his dealings with people. Spending time in academia and then finance I have come across many people who fall into this category, Musk just seems one of the more extreme examples.
He’s likes to think he's autistic and he’s confessed this. That’s the issue
FTFY
Do one, actually. Autism is hard enough to deal with without creepy insinuations that it's a lifestyle choice. And is there anything more pathetic than that ftfy thing?
Absolutely right. It’s not fun and it’s something people admit easily and Musk has - as I correctly surmised - publicly discussed his autism. I salute him for that alone
Asperger's isn't even a term used these days. So that's profoundly unhelpful.
Fuck me. So in leftieland he's not allowed to self identfy as Asperger's? tho it's OK for people with cocks to self identify as "women"?
No. Nowt to do with politics. It's been removed as of 2013 from DSM-5, as no satisfactory distinction from other forms of autism could be made. Hence the term ASD which it was merged with in 2021 under ICD-11. Autistic Spectrum Disorder. So. From 2013 you couldn't be diagnosed with Asperger's. You can self identify as whatever you like as ever. But it ain't very helpful.
It's his fucking choice. Dipshit
And there is massive controvery in autist-land over the removal of these terms: Asperger's, high functioning, etc
Don't call me a dipshit. I don't identify as such. Glad to see you defend someone's choice to self identify in the teeth of medical opinion. Imho. As a professional working in the area, ADHD is under diagnosed. And ASD over. Like anxiety and depression a few years back. Similarly, the two are often overlapping and can be confused.
Fair enough. But this issue makes me personally angry
Probably because a very close relative of mine has recently been officially diagnosed as ASD and this person was told "we would once have diagnosed you as Aspie, and high functioning, but this is no longer officially allowed even though we think it useful", then this person went away and read up on all of it and decided "fuck yeah, I'm Aspie": - ie: high functioning, socially awkward, doesn't need much or any help with daily living, but has real and grave problems in certain situations, highly intelligent etc
This person, close to me, has self identified as Aspie and it brings this person a lot of consolation - and also practical assistance: because this person now reaches out to other self-identified "Aspies" and finds common ground, AND a social network. And Elon Musk is therefore a bit of an inspiration. The richest-ish man in the world says he's Aspie. Yay
Good luck to them all
Self-diagnosed Aspergers has been fashionable amongst a certain type of tech nerd since the internet decided decades ago Bill Gates had it (also the "richest-ish man in the world"). Self-diagnosed ADHD was also popular in the United States after the amphetamines used to treat it became known as "smart drugs".
People often like to validate themselves with a medicalised diagnosis. Sometimes it is helpful in accessing support, sometimes it is an obstacle and people say "I can't do that because I am X diagnosis" or just a licence to behave in an unusual manner
A label like this can be quite restricting, and not all personality traits need to be medicalised. We should treat people as they are, whether they carry a medical label or not.
Have to say that SKS was presumably grateful for the interruption of his speech by protesters yesterday as it broke the tedium and made it vaguely newsworthy. He didn’t have that advantage on R4 in the morning and boy that was grim. Platitudes and generalities piled high with not a detail in sight. He’s going to be poor in the election campaign, possibly even worse than Sunak if you can imagine such a thing.
Important witness at the Post Office Inquiry Gareth Jenkins was supposed to be giving evidence yesterday. He didn't do so because at the last moment the Post Office disclosed a further 4,767 potentially relevant documents which made it impossible to fairly hear his evidence.
Isn't that tactic disallowed, or at least frowned on? Or am I just remembering legal dramas?
I would think that some quite important people involved are getting desperate. Despite a number of attempts at Lessons Will Be Learned* and It Has Been An Awful Experience For Everyone** some impertinent people are still wanting actual people to pay an actual legal price for what happened.
*No lessons will be learned. Now shut up , headcount, and let me carry on as if nothing happened **I was a victim too. The biggest victim. Now shut up, headcount, and let me carry on as if nothing happened. Copyright Alistair Campbell
It’s amazing how many people had no problem admitting that Elon Musk is seriously smart - until he revealed that he is quite right wing. At which point he miraculously morphed into a stuttering moron who just keeps getting lucky
Musk strikes me as one of those super smart people who is also a bit dumb in certain respects, certainly in his dealings with people. Spending time in academia and then finance I have come across many people who fall into this category, Musk just seems one of the more extreme examples.
He’s likes to think he's autistic and he’s confessed this. That’s the issue
FTFY
Do one, actually. Autism is hard enough to deal with without creepy insinuations that it's a lifestyle choice. And is there anything more pathetic than that ftfy thing?
Absolutely right. It’s not fun and it’s something people admit easily and Musk has - as I correctly surmised - publicly discussed his autism. I salute him for that alone
Asperger's isn't even a term used these days. So that's profoundly unhelpful.
Fuck me. So in leftieland he's not allowed to self identfy as Asperger's? tho it's OK for people with cocks to self identify as "women"?
No. Nowt to do with politics. It's been removed as of 2013 from DSM-5, as no satisfactory distinction from other forms of autism could be made. Hence the term ASD which it was merged with in 2021 under ICD-11. Autistic Spectrum Disorder. So. From 2013 you couldn't be diagnosed with Asperger's. You can self identify as whatever you like as ever. But it ain't very helpful.
It's his fucking choice. Dipshit
And there is massive controvery in autist-land over the removal of these terms: Asperger's, high functioning, etc
Don't call me a dipshit. I don't identify as such. Glad to see you defend someone's choice to self identify in the teeth of medical opinion. Imho. As a professional working in the area, ADHD is under diagnosed. And ASD over. Like anxiety and depression a few years back. Similarly, the two are often overlapping and can be confused.
Fair enough. But this issue makes me personally angry
Probably because a very close relative of mine has recently been officially diagnosed as ASD and this person was told "we would once have diagnosed you as Aspie, and high functioning, but this is no longer officially allowed even though we think it useful", then this person went away and read up on all of it and decided "fuck yeah, I'm Aspie": - ie: high functioning, socially awkward, doesn't need much or any help with daily living, but has real and grave problems in certain situations, highly intelligent etc
This person, close to me, has self identified as Aspie and it brings this person a lot of consolation - and also practical assistance: because this person now reaches out to other self-identified "Aspies" and finds common ground, AND a social network. And Elon Musk is therefore a bit of an inspiration. The richest-ish man in the world says he's Aspie. Yay
Good luck to them all
Self-diagnosed Aspergers has been fashionable amongst a certain type of tech nerd since the internet decided decades ago Bill Gates had it (also the "richest-ish man in the world"). Self-diagnosed ADHD was also popular in the United States after the amphetamines used to treat it became known as "smart drugs".
People often like to validate themselves with a medicalised diagnosis. Sometimes it is helpful in accessing support, sometimes it is an obstacle and people say "I can't do that because I am X diagnosis" or just a licence to behave in an unusual manner
A label like this can be quite restricting, and not all personality traits need to be medicalised. We should treat people as they are, whether they carry a medical label or not.
Yes, but more. Labels help because they reify a set of traits, making it easier to connect with other people with a similar experience and to look up information. (I say that as someone with a physical health spectrum disorder.)
Am amazed RCS has to ask a pack of PBers re the stupid email.
Seeing as how it took me all of 10 seconds worth of googling before I was reading it.
Or about half of it, gave up as it was way less than edifying, enlightening, entertaining or exciting (plus bunch of other e-words) than graffiti at a bus station toilet.
Agreed. I can't be bothered working out whether it's genuine or not.
OTOH Robert Jenrick is genuinely and quite luridly evil when he has the children's Disney art painted over in the refugee centres because it might make the place too "welcoming". He's Cruella De Vil. Probably kills puppy dogs for fun.
It’s amazing how many people had no problem admitting that Elon Musk is seriously smart - until he revealed that he is quite right wing. At which point he miraculously morphed into a stuttering moron who just keeps getting lucky
Musk strikes me as one of those super smart people who is also a bit dumb in certain respects, certainly in his dealings with people. Spending time in academia and then finance I have come across many people who fall into this category, Musk just seems one of the more extreme examples.
He’s likes to think he's autistic and he’s confessed this. That’s the issue
FTFY
Do one, actually. Autism is hard enough to deal with without creepy insinuations that it's a lifestyle choice. And is there anything more pathetic than that ftfy thing?
Absolutely right. It’s not fun and it’s something people admit easily and Musk has - as I correctly surmised - publicly discussed his autism. I salute him for that alone
Asperger's isn't even a term used these days. So that's profoundly unhelpful.
Fuck me. So in leftieland he's not allowed to self identfy as Asperger's? tho it's OK for people with cocks to self identify as "women"?
No. Nowt to do with politics. It's been removed as of 2013 from DSM-5, as no satisfactory distinction from other forms of autism could be made. Hence the term ASD which it was merged with in 2021 under ICD-11. Autistic Spectrum Disorder. So. From 2013 you couldn't be diagnosed with Asperger's. You can self identify as whatever you like as ever. But it ain't very helpful.
It's his fucking choice. Dipshit
And there is massive controvery in autist-land over the removal of these terms: Asperger's, high functioning, etc
Don't call me a dipshit. I don't identify as such. Glad to see you defend someone's choice to self identify in the teeth of medical opinion. Imho. As a professional working in the area, ADHD is under diagnosed. And ASD over. Like anxiety and depression a few years back. Similarly, the two are often overlapping and can be confused.
Fair enough. But this issue makes me personally angry
Probably because a very close relative of mine has recently been officially diagnosed as ASD and this person was told "we would once have diagnosed you as Aspie, and high functioning, but this is no longer officially allowed even though we think it useful", then this person went away and read up on all of it and decided "fuck yeah, I'm Aspie": - ie: high functioning, socially awkward, doesn't need much or any help with daily living, but has real and grave problems in certain situations, highly intelligent etc
This person, close to me, has self identified as Aspie and it brings this person a lot of consolation - and also practical assistance: because this person now reaches out to other self-identified "Aspies" and finds common ground, AND a social network. And Elon Musk is therefore a bit of an inspiration. The richest-ish man in the world says he's Aspie. Yay
Good luck to them all
Self-diagnosed Aspergers has been fashionable amongst a certain type of tech nerd since the internet decided decades ago Bill Gates had it (also the "richest-ish man in the world"). Self-diagnosed ADHD was also popular in the United States after the amphetamines used to treat it became known as "smart drugs".
People often like to validate themselves with a medicalised diagnosis. Sometimes it is helpful in accessing support, sometimes it is an obstacle and people say "I can't do that because I am X diagnosis" or just a licence to behave in an unusual manner
A label like this can be quite restricting, and not all personality traits need to be medicalised. We should treat people as they are, whether they carry a medical label or not.
I'm far from being an expert on autism and Asperger's, but many people I know in tech are probably in some ways on the spectrum. Mrs J probably is, as she readily acknowledges.
Perhaps people go into tech because the sort of laser-focus the job requires suits certain autism traits?
But what annoys me is people using such diagnoses (esp. self diagnosis) as an excuse for sh*tty behaviour. Something that makes other people think such sh*tty behaviour is typical of people with that diagnosis, when it is not.
I've noticed that tweets are back again without having signed on to twitter (or even being a member in my case). Presumably the protests reached even Musk, particularly with the advent of a potential competitor in nuclear war and the end of the world as we know it or Threads for short.
Am amazed RCS has to ask a pack of PBers re the stupid email.
Seeing as how it took me all of 10 seconds worth of googling before I was reading it.
Or about half of it, gave up as it was way less than edifying, enlightening, entertaining or exciting (plus bunch of other e-words) than graffiti at a bus station toilet.
Agreed. I can't be bothered working out whether it's genuine or not.
OTOH Robert Jenrick is genuinely and quite luridly evil when he has the children's Disney art painted over in the refugee centres because it might make the place too "welcoming". He's Cruella De Vil. Probably kills puppy dogs for fun.
We already have Cruella in the cabinet. Maybe the Grinch? I do think that this competition to be the most obnoxious member of the cabinet is getting slightly out of hand. It is not entirely clear to me that it was even a good way of winning votes in the first place, to be honest.
It’s amazing how many people had no problem admitting that Elon Musk is seriously smart - until he revealed that he is quite right wing. At which point he miraculously morphed into a stuttering moron who just keeps getting lucky
Musk strikes me as one of those super smart people who is also a bit dumb in certain respects, certainly in his dealings with people. Spending time in academia and then finance I have come across many people who fall into this category, Musk just seems one of the more extreme examples.
He’s likes to think he's autistic and he’s confessed this. That’s the issue
FTFY
Do one, actually. Autism is hard enough to deal with without creepy insinuations that it's a lifestyle choice. And is there anything more pathetic than that ftfy thing?
Absolutely right. It’s not fun and it’s something people admit easily and Musk has - as I correctly surmised - publicly discussed his autism. I salute him for that alone
Asperger's isn't even a term used these days. So that's profoundly unhelpful.
Fuck me. So in leftieland he's not allowed to self identfy as Asperger's? tho it's OK for people with cocks to self identify as "women"?
No. Nowt to do with politics. It's been removed as of 2013 from DSM-5, as no satisfactory distinction from other forms of autism could be made. Hence the term ASD which it was merged with in 2021 under ICD-11. Autistic Spectrum Disorder. So. From 2013 you couldn't be diagnosed with Asperger's. You can self identify as whatever you like as ever. But it ain't very helpful.
It's his fucking choice. Dipshit
And there is massive controvery in autist-land over the removal of these terms: Asperger's, high functioning, etc
Don't call me a dipshit. I don't identify as such. Glad to see you defend someone's choice to self identify in the teeth of medical opinion. Imho. As a professional working in the area, ADHD is under diagnosed. And ASD over. Like anxiety and depression a few years back. Similarly, the two are often overlapping and can be confused.
Fair enough. But this issue makes me personally angry
Probably because a very close relative of mine has recently been officially diagnosed as ASD and this person was told "we would once have diagnosed you as Aspie, and high functioning, but this is no longer officially allowed even though we think it useful", then this person went away and read up on all of it and decided "fuck yeah, I'm Aspie": - ie: high functioning, socially awkward, doesn't need much or any help with daily living, but has real and grave problems in certain situations, highly intelligent etc
This person, close to me, has self identified as Aspie and it brings this person a lot of consolation - and also practical assistance: because this person now reaches out to other self-identified "Aspies" and finds common ground, AND a social network. And Elon Musk is therefore a bit of an inspiration. The richest-ish man in the world says he's Aspie. Yay
Good luck to them all
Self-diagnosed Aspergers has been fashionable amongst a certain type of tech nerd since the internet decided decades ago Bill Gates had it (also the "richest-ish man in the world"). Self-diagnosed ADHD was also popular in the United States after the amphetamines used to treat it became known as "smart drugs".
People often like to validate themselves with a medicalised diagnosis. Sometimes it is helpful in accessing support, sometimes it is an obstacle and people say "I can't do that because I am X diagnosis" or just a licence to behave in an unusual manner
A label like this can be quite restricting, and not all personality traits need to be medicalised. We should treat people as they are, whether they carry a medical label or not.
Yes, but more. Labels help because they reify a set of traits, making it easier to connect with other people with a similar experience and to look up information. (I say that as someone with a physical health spectrum disorder.)
Sure, labelling can be useful, but it can also be restricting. People sometimes use it as an excuse to avoid an activity, rather than a spur to work harder than most at an activity.
Some people find reading and writing difficult, some people find social interaction difficult, some people find unpredictability difficult, some people find noise difficult. Labelling these personality traits can help people mitigate the traits, but it can also cause people to retreat from their potential.
In any case, a lot of people do search for these medical labels. No one is allowed to simply be "eccentric" any more.
It’s amazing how many people had no problem admitting that Elon Musk is seriously smart - until he revealed that he is quite right wing. At which point he miraculously morphed into a stuttering moron who just keeps getting lucky
Musk strikes me as one of those super smart people who is also a bit dumb in certain respects, certainly in his dealings with people. Spending time in academia and then finance I have come across many people who fall into this category, Musk just seems one of the more extreme examples.
He’s likes to think he's autistic and he’s confessed this. That’s the issue
FTFY
Do one, actually. Autism is hard enough to deal with without creepy insinuations that it's a lifestyle choice. And is there anything more pathetic than that ftfy thing?
Absolutely right. It’s not fun and it’s something people admit easily and Musk has - as I correctly surmised - publicly discussed his autism. I salute him for that alone
Asperger's isn't even a term used these days. So that's profoundly unhelpful.
Fuck me. So in leftieland he's not allowed to self identfy as Asperger's? tho it's OK for people with cocks to self identify as "women"?
No. Nowt to do with politics. It's been removed as of 2013 from DSM-5, as no satisfactory distinction from other forms of autism could be made. Hence the term ASD which it was merged with in 2021 under ICD-11. Autistic Spectrum Disorder. So. From 2013 you couldn't be diagnosed with Asperger's. You can self identify as whatever you like as ever. But it ain't very helpful.
It's his fucking choice. Dipshit
And there is massive controvery in autist-land over the removal of these terms: Asperger's, high functioning, etc
Don't call me a dipshit. I don't identify as such. Glad to see you defend someone's choice to self identify in the teeth of medical opinion. Imho. As a professional working in the area, ADHD is under diagnosed. And ASD over. Like anxiety and depression a few years back. Similarly, the two are often overlapping and can be confused.
Fair enough. But this issue makes me personally angry
Probably because a very close relative of mine has recently been officially diagnosed as ASD and this person was told "we would once have diagnosed you as Aspie, and high functioning, but this is no longer officially allowed even though we think it useful", then this person went away and read up on all of it and decided "fuck yeah, I'm Aspie": - ie: high functioning, socially awkward, doesn't need much or any help with daily living, but has real and grave problems in certain situations, highly intelligent etc
This person, close to me, has self identified as Aspie and it brings this person a lot of consolation - and also practical assistance: because this person now reaches out to other self-identified "Aspies" and finds common ground, AND a social network. And Elon Musk is therefore a bit of an inspiration. The richest-ish man in the world says he's Aspie. Yay
Good luck to them all
Self-diagnosed Aspergers has been fashionable amongst a certain type of tech nerd since the internet decided decades ago Bill Gates had it (also the "richest-ish man in the world"). Self-diagnosed ADHD was also popular in the United States after the amphetamines used to treat it became known as "smart drugs".
People often like to validate themselves with a medicalised diagnosis. Sometimes it is helpful in accessing support, sometimes it is an obstacle and people say "I can't do that because I am X diagnosis" or just a licence to behave in an unusual manner
A label like this can be quite restricting, and not all personality traits need to be medicalised. We should treat people as they are, whether they carry a medical label or not.
I'm far from being an expert on autism and Asperger's, but many people I know in tech are probably in some ways on the spectrum. Mrs J probably is, as she readily acknowledges.
Perhaps people go into tech because the sort of laser-focus the job requires suits certain autism traits?
But what annoys me is people using such diagnoses (esp. self diagnosis) as an excuse for sh*tty behaviour. Something that makes other people think such sh*tty behaviour is typical of people with that diagnosis, when it is not.
Agreed. In my experience people on the spectrum are not skilled at picking up social cues, especially from body language or facial expressions but are very aware of that and try harder to do so making them generally more polite than average. The behaviour you are describing seems much more psychopathic to me. This shares some of the traits of autism but the motivations for ignoring other peoples' feelings and expressions is very different.
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Foxy painted that mural himself, as his contribution to smashing the evil trafficking gangs.
Edit: I jest, because to me he's just 'ok', but maybe those people putting him forward as a potential leader weeks after being elected in 2015 were right all along!
Asperger's meant an intelligent* austistic person.
That's why it was removed.
*Intelligent having many definitions.
That's why it's called Autistic Spectrum Disorder and not Autistic Spectrum Disease.
As with any self label isn't the key thing about whether other people should be obliged to act in a certain way in reaction to a self labelling, beyond mere polite acceptance of that self label? Or, indeed, are people required to even accept someone else's label, particularly if it would cause confusion with something that is formally diagnosed?
I'm not a medical professional.
Every single one of your arguments can be layered over yours on self ID of gender.
[Addendum: Fair point, but we are now arguing about the boundaries of "disorder". Specifically, should the medical paradigm be used for this thing? At what point does it stop being "person with a real problem" and start being "vague feeling of unease". Can it be objectively diagnosed? What's the error rate of such diagnoses? Is there a treatment and if so, does it work? Does the person want to be cured? What purpose does defining it as a disorder serve?]
(it was a real question, btw)
Imagine how it will kick off when I reveal there hasn't been any ADD for about a decade.
I'm in no position to judge.
Either the ramblings of a deranged schizophrenic, or the juciest gossip ever. Who knows?
I ain't linking to it. I like my PB account.
(This link isn't the actual e-mail, you'll have to find it for yourself since TSE will lock me up with Max Verstappen and force feed me Pineapple Pizzas if I link to it)
https://twitter.com/nmsonline/status/1677018147897917440
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-us-canada-66114544
Here’s tonight’s paper round up
Good news.
Completed expected news.
Are you sure? News.
Never trust a Greek bearing gifts, News.
Why didn’t more papers cover this? News.
That doesn't mean it isn't a real thing that is useful to be able to diagnose.
I have a diagnosis for ASD. It's useful for me, and for the medical professionals who help me with my mental health, to have that diagnosis as a core foundation on which to build an understanding of my psychology and to design coping strategies and anticipate difficult situations.
I've been married twice, have one child, have held down reasonably well-paid jobs, and sometimes react to stressful arguments by doing things like pouring a glass of water over my head.
I'm really not sure what your problem is with ASD as a diagnosis, but I find it quite hostile and unpleasant.
And that concludes the papers. No bad news.
It is a little worrying though that someone can produce this and by the end of tomorrow everyone will have read it.
Skeletons dancing in closets is an unusual turn of phrase.
I have PM'd you the full email, if you haven't seen it.
The stuff about his boring the pants off a whole dinner party in Italy by whinging about Brexit rings true though.
But what if it's put on in this case, though, and the author is professionally disinterested? Pretty skilled piece of work if so.
Important witness at the Post Office Inquiry Gareth Jenkins was supposed to be giving evidence yesterday. He didn't do so because at the last moment the Post Office disclosed a further 4,767 potentially relevant documents which made it impossible to fairly hear his evidence. Head of the inquiry Sir Wyn Williams was not happy with this turn of events.
Video here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0VqwuOCm5I
I've added you to a convo of you want to discuss THE EMAIL in private. Anybody else wanna play, just say.
Not sure what to make of it... BUT... here's what I think (and remember I'm no fan of George Osborne - OGH once banned for 12hrs me for calling him a "creep" - The first and only time I was banned here in 17 years)
....
If George is indeed a cheating son-of-a-bitch, the poster (whoever he/she/they/them) is should have messaged "Thea" privately with their "evidence" rather than sharing it all over the internet.
It very much reads like a bitter, desperate and vengeful Corbynista (or one of George's original ex's) trying to ruin Thea's happy day (always remember the wedding day is the BRIDES day - which is a pretty scummy thing to do, whatever your politics, IMO)
Remember, everyone.... An eye for and eye... AND THE WHOLE WORLD GOES BLIND...
But a complaint? Heavens no.
BUT,,,
Thea...
If it turns out George is ultimately a lying, cheating, sniveling son-of-a-bitch who ***** you liked he ****** the British people from 2010 to 2015... make sure you take the b*stard for every penny you can! 😂
Otherwise, have a happy life! 🙏
Seeing as how it took me all of 10 seconds worth of googling before I was reading it.
Or about half of it, gave up as it was way less than edifying, enlightening, entertaining or exciting (plus bunch of other e-words) than graffiti at a bus station toilet.
Now, I have read some extremely funny hate mail from jilted ex’s, during my professional career, in which the miscreant partner’s shortcomings are laid bare pitilessly, but this isn’t one such.
Are you sure that’s what the ban was for and not for a subtle reference to Radiohead’s seminal track which just happens to have the same name.
Let's draw a veil over who has done whom, shall we ?
A New Poll on the Trump Indictments Has a Surprising Result
A new POLITICO Magazine/Ipsos poll finds one thing that unites people on the Trump indictments.
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2023/07/06/trump-trial-poll-ipsos-00104772
Didn't appear on my feed.
Overspend blamed on government indecision
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/jul/07/cost-of-euston-hs2-terminus-could-race-past-4-point-8bn-estimate-mps-say
...In a highly critical report, MPs on the committee said the Department for Transport (DfT) was yet to “establish the design and expectations for the station” against what it was “willing to spend”, despite spending more than eight years planning and designing the London terminus...
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/jul/07/russia-us-talks-ukraine-war-biden
Don't know if it'll do much good but maybe worth a try..
A label like this can be quite restricting, and not all personality traits need to be medicalised. We should treat people as they are, whether they carry a medical label or not.
Labour gain from SNP in East Kilbride West on a swing of 14%. SNP in 3rd place BEHIND THE TORIES on first preferences
https://twitter.com/themajorityscot/status/1677095791133958150?s=20
He didn’t have that advantage on R4 in the morning and boy that was grim. Platitudes and generalities piled high with not a detail in sight. He’s going to be poor in the election campaign, possibly even worse than Sunak if you can imagine such a thing.
*No lessons will be learned. Now shut up , headcount, and let me carry on as if nothing happened
**I was a victim too. The biggest victim. Now shut up, headcount, and let me carry on as if nothing happened. Copyright Alistair Campbell
OTOH Robert Jenrick is genuinely and quite luridly evil when he has the children's Disney art painted over in the refugee centres because it might make the place too "welcoming". He's Cruella De Vil. Probably kills puppy dogs for fun.
Perhaps people go into tech because the sort of laser-focus the job requires suits certain autism traits?
But what annoys me is people using such diagnoses (esp. self diagnosis) as an excuse for sh*tty behaviour. Something that makes other people think such sh*tty behaviour is typical of people with that diagnosis, when it is not.
Some people find reading and writing difficult, some people find social interaction difficult, some people find unpredictability difficult, some people find noise difficult. Labelling these personality traits can help people mitigate the traits, but it can also cause people to retreat from their potential.
In any case, a lot of people do search for these medical labels. No one is allowed to simply be "eccentric" any more.