Yes. I was wrong. I said 30-42. I was suckered by recent Tory increases and a few 30%s. But were those polls newbie pollsters, are we getting established v newbie split again? Survation 28, Ipsos 28, yougov 25, Opinium now 28 but with swingback.
Gap between Tories to labour is one measurement, Tories not breaking into 30s is another measurement, but a ridiculous 59% LLG with swingback built in? And we are just 10 months from the optimum day for the Tories to hold the election. Everyday beyond May 2nd next year is a worse result for them.
And ten months before the 1997 election takes us to early July 1996. The (gold standard) ICM poll from then...
C30 L45 LD21.
There are plenty of rational reasons to think we're not mindlessly heading down a path signposted "1997 revisited". But every month that the polls pootle along like this makes the underlying question louder.
What Is going to stop Sunak suffering the same fate as Major?
Yes. I was wrong. I said 30-42. I was suckered by recent Tory increases and a few 30%s. But were those polls newbie pollsters, are we getting established v newbie split again? Survation 28, Ipsos 28, yougov 25, Opinium now 28 but with swingback.
Gap between Tories to labour is one measurement, Tories not breaking into 30s is another measurement, but a ridiculous 59% LLG with swingback built in? And we are just 10 months from the optimum day for the Tories to hold the election. Everyday beyond May 2nd next year is a worse result for them.
Extraordinary! The government is threatening to take legal action against the Covid Inquiry to stop them having access to unredacted documents . And in vomit inducing hypocrisy they’re trying to use the Human Rights Act to help them .
The very same Act that many of the right wing loons in the Tory party want to get rid of .
Yes. I was wrong. I said 30-42. I was suckered by recent Tory increases and a few 30%s. But were those polls newbie pollsters, are we getting established v newbie split again? Survation 28, Ipsos 28, yougov 25, Opinium now 28 but with swingback.
Gap between Tories to labour is one measurement, Tories not breaking into 30s is another measurement, but a ridiculous 59% LLG with swingback built in? And we are just 10 months from the optimum day for the Tories to hold the election. Everyday beyond May 2nd next year is a worse result for them.
I know they love winding Russians up but this sounds very serious.
Yes. The key audience for this message looks to be Ukrainians rather than third country supporters or Russia. Which suggests something big is about to happen.
If I were about to launch a major offensive I would be doing my best to downplay it in the hope of catching my enemy off guard, not boasting about it left, right and centre.
I hope for their sake that whatever it is doesn't turn out to be a damp squib. It wouldn't be optimal for morale in Ukraine.
Radio chatter and satellite recon (and many other things) means that it is impossible to hide that an offensive is about to take place. Just the targets - and that will require a lot of fakery and decoying to hide.
Rishi is a traitor and I question his Britishness.
Rishi Sunak will ask stores to cap basic food prices
No 10 in discussions with supermarkets over French-style approach to cost of living crisis
Downing Street is drawing up plans for retailers to introduce price caps on basic food items such as bread and milk to help tackle the rising cost of living, The Telegraph can disclose.
Rishi Sunak’s aides have started work on a deal with supermarkets akin to an agreement in France in which the country’s major retailers charge the “lowest possible amount” for some essential food products.
The move would amount to the biggest attempt to manage supermarket prices since controls established by Edward Heath in 1973. However, No 10 insists that any action by retailers would be voluntary.
It comes amid growing concern in government about sustained pressure on household finances from inflation and the rising cost of borrowing.
A Treasury source said: “Food inflation is much more resilient and difficult to get rid of than we anticipated.”
What Is going to stop Sunak suffering the same fate as Major?
SKS is not Tony Blair.
But set against that, Rishi is a much less effective retail politician than John Major. Even in '97, by which time he was clearly broken, you could see the remains of the charisma that triumphed in '92. Major was a has been. In terms of political star quality, Sunak looks more like a never was.
One of the interesting data points we'll get next year is where the balance between oppositions wining and governments losing lies. My hunch is that the second is much more important.
The original Horse was Leon too, Not much doubt about it in hindsight.
How you manage to find time to earn a living Leon whilst playing games with so many PB avatars, I can only put down to you having discovered the optimum combination of drugs.
I know they love winding Russians up but this sounds very serious.
Yes. The key audience for this message looks to be Ukrainians rather than third country supporters or Russia. Which suggests something big is about to happen.
If I were about to launch a major offensive I would be doing my best to downplay it in the hope of catching my enemy off guard, not boasting about it left, right and centre.
I hope for their sake that whatever it is doesn't turn out to be a damp squib. It wouldn't be optimal for morale in Ukraine.
This could be their FUSAG/Operations Fortitude and Bodyguard.
I've often wondered how you could conduct Operation Overlord in a social media age.
Another Brexit vision sadly turns out to be a mirage:
3 December 2020:
The government has unveiled plans to ban the export of live animals for slaughter and fattening.
The proposals form part of an eight-week consultation, launched by Defra secretary George Eustice in England and Wales on Thursday (3 December), seeking views on how to better protect animal welfare during transport.
“We are committed to improving the welfare of animals at all stages of life. Today marks a major step forward in delivering on our manifesto commitment to end live exports for slaughter,” said Mr Eustice.
“Now that we have left the EU, we have an opportunity to end this unnecessary practice. We want to ensure that animals are spared stress prior to slaughter.”
Rishi Sunak’s government has ditched a bill that would effectively have banned the export of live farmed animals for fattening and slaughter.
In a statement to the House of Commons on Thursday 25 May, Defra farming minister Mark Spencer confirmed the government was dropping the Kept Animals Bill.
Mr Spencer told MPs that while animal welfare “has been a key priority of the government”, the legislation “risked being extended far beyond the original commitments in the manifesto”.
But he insisted the government would be “taking forward measures in the Kept Animals Bill individually during the remainder of this parliament”.
The Conservative Animal Welfare Foundation said it was disappointed by the government’s decision to drop the bill.
Except it is not a mirage at all. It is something we can now do which we were unable to do previously. The fact that this dregs of a Government has decided not to do it doesn't change that. It just means we will have to wait until they are gone before we do it.
The option is now there to do it. All it takes is a Government with some compassion.
What's wrong with live animal exports?
It is generally considered to be unfairly stressful to the animals.
Surely that depends on the circumstances? For example, there's little to object to about a slaughterhouse in Monaghan processing animals from Rosslea. It would be much preferable to transporting them to Coleraine. Surely what matters is journey time, not borders. The animals know nothing about lines on maps.
I don't know enough about the issues to give you a definitive answer, though I suspect the ferry journey adds another layer of stress to the experience. Obviously the ideal scenario is for abbatoirs to be as near the farms as possible and the final journey to be as short and stress free as possible. Personally I don't have an implacable opposition to live animal exports, but I do see how banning them would have been seen as a step forward for animal welfare, and therefore somewhat awkward for Brexit critics.
I think a blanket ban would be using a sledgehammer to crack a nut, and would obviously be problematic if applied to land borders. Clearly transporting animals in a way that needs multiple modes of transport (road, rail, sea, air) is going to add to the stress, but I believe that sort of thing can be accounted for without resorting to an outright ban. As long as we don't treat the idea of crossing a border as a proxy for the real issues of journey time and comfort.
Actually if they had anny nouse, that is another area the Government could really make a difference over in terms of animal welfare. As part of EU compliance (possibly gold plated as always) most local abattoirs have been shut down over the last couple of decades. This means that rather than a short trip to a local abattoir it is now necessary to make much longer trips to centralised abattoirs. It has had a very severe effect on small livestock farmers as it is far more expensive and has also ben very detrimental to animal welfare.
I know they love winding Russians up but this sounds very serious.
Yes. The key audience for this message looks to be Ukrainians rather than third country supporters or Russia. Which suggests something big is about to happen.
If I were about to launch a major offensive I would be doing my best to downplay it in the hope of catching my enemy off guard, not boasting about it left, right and centre.
I hope for their sake that whatever it is doesn't turn out to be a damp squib. It wouldn't be optimal for morale in Ukraine.
Radio chatter and satellite recon (and many other things) means that it is impossible to hide that an offensive is about to take place. Just the targets - and that will require a lot of fakery and decoying to hide.
Plus they want the Russians to be scared. And they are.
We've got a looming constitutional crisis coming up thanks to our unelected head of state.
Will the first King’s speech delivered by Charles include meaningful bills for change - or legislative proposals about the unions and gender equality designed to put Labour on the spot.
And will Buckingham Palace go along with such a political act?
Tories will have turning the country into a republic in their 2029 manifesto.
Why shouldn't a King's/Queen's speech be political? Governments are meant to govern and sometimes that involves politics to get the things you think are important into law.
We've got a looming constitutional crisis coming up thanks to our unelected head of state.
Will the first King’s speech delivered by Charles include meaningful bills for change - or legislative proposals about the unions and gender equality designed to put Labour on the spot.
And will Buckingham Palace go along with such a political act?
Tories will have turning the country into a republic in their 2029 manifesto.
Absolutely not, you cannot be a proper Tory without being a monarchist. The King as a constitutional monarch just has to read whatever government legislative proposals are put in front of him, even if they are rubbish
Rishi is a traitor and I question his Britishness.
Rishi Sunak will ask stores to cap basic food prices
No 10 in discussions with supermarkets over French-style approach to cost of living crisis
Downing Street is drawing up plans for retailers to introduce price caps on basic food items such as bread and milk to help tackle the rising cost of living, The Telegraph can disclose.
Rishi Sunak’s aides have started work on a deal with supermarkets akin to an agreement in France in which the country’s major retailers charge the “lowest possible amount” for some essential food products.
The move would amount to the biggest attempt to manage supermarket prices since controls established by Edward Heath in 1973. However, No 10 insists that any action by retailers would be voluntary.
It comes amid growing concern in government about sustained pressure on household finances from inflation and the rising cost of borrowing.
A Treasury source said: “Food inflation is much more resilient and difficult to get rid of than we anticipated.”
How does that work? Lets take milk as an example. Only a few companies sully milk in bulk, companies like Arla. They buy direct from the farmer. Girl cows need to be fed, and the cost of feed is £lots.
"Now look here, can't you keep these beastly prices in check" is great as crayon politics. But it isn't real world. I'm in my 3rd decade in the food industry and I have never seen a market like this.
I'm also seeing behaviours that boggle the mind - every day is school day. I secured a Cost Price Increase with a major UK customer a few weeks back. He didn't even ask how much or why. Simply "send me an email". Not only did he accept it and implement it immediately, he back dated it for a couple of purchase orders already raised.
We've got a looming constitutional crisis coming up thanks to our unelected head of state.
Will the first King’s speech delivered by Charles include meaningful bills for change - or legislative proposals about the unions and gender equality designed to put Labour on the spot.
And will Buckingham Palace go along with such a political act?
Tories will have turning the country into a republic in their 2029 manifesto.
Absolutely not, you cannot be a proper Tory without being a monarchist. The King as a constitutional monarch just has to read whatever government legislative proposals are put in front of him, even if they are rubbish
The Tories are facing an “electoral timebomb” because millennial voters regard them as dishonest, incompetent and out of touch, according to a report this week.
The report, by the Onward think tank, says they are the first generation that has not become more conservative as they have got older.
This is significant because millennials, which the report classes as aged 25 to 40, are already the most numerous single demographic group in 51 per cent of parliamentary seats, outnumbering the older Generation X (aged 41-55) and baby boomers (56-70) and the younger Generation Z (aged 18-24). They outnumber Generation X in two thirds of seats. The report’s age boundaries depart from most definitions, which make baby boomers aged about 59-77; Gen X 42-58; millennials 27-41 and Gen Z 10-26.
“Millennials are the first demographic cohort not to become more right-wing as they age,” says the report, entitled Missing millennials: why the Conservatives lost a generation, and how to win them back.
“They are failing to acquire many of the attributes that have traditionally moved voters rightwards: home ownership, secure and stable employment, starting families. Without a stake in society, their political preferences are trending in the opposite direction. In fact, they are the first generation to become more left-wing as they age.”
I've been saying this for years - but been persistently told just to wait.
The problem is the Tories have failed to build houses. So you have created Labour voters.
Yet Tory councils across the South had put forward Local Plans proposing lots of new housing in their area over the next 10-15 years.
Unfortunately in those same areas there was a NIMBY revolt on May 4th to the LDs, Independents and Greens and the Tories lost control of most councils they controlled in the Home Counties.
Starmer then proposed to pick up the mantle Gove and new NOC councils in the South are rowing back from by building on the greenbelt if Labour gets elected, only to see the Tories take the lead in bluewall seats in the latest Redfield poll for the first time under Sunak as PM.
Building more houses is needed, especially in the expensive South, however any party proposing to do so swiftly loses popularity
We've got a looming constitutional crisis coming up thanks to our unelected head of state.
Will the first King’s speech delivered by Charles include meaningful bills for change - or legislative proposals about the unions and gender equality designed to put Labour on the spot.
And will Buckingham Palace go along with such a political act?
Tories will have turning the country into a republic in their 2029 manifesto.
Absolutely not, you cannot be a proper Tory without being a monarchist. The King as a constitutional monarch just has to read whatever government legislative proposals are put in front of him, even if they are rubbish
Republicans in the US are right-wing.
They aren't Tories though, most American Tories went to Canada after the American Revolution
Rishi is a traitor and I question his Britishness.
Rishi Sunak will ask stores to cap basic food prices
No 10 in discussions with supermarkets over French-style approach to cost of living crisis
Downing Street is drawing up plans for retailers to introduce price caps on basic food items such as bread and milk to help tackle the rising cost of living, The Telegraph can disclose.
Rishi Sunak’s aides have started work on a deal with supermarkets akin to an agreement in France in which the country’s major retailers charge the “lowest possible amount” for some essential food products.
The move would amount to the biggest attempt to manage supermarket prices since controls established by Edward Heath in 1973. However, No 10 insists that any action by retailers would be voluntary.
It comes amid growing concern in government about sustained pressure on household finances from inflation and the rising cost of borrowing.
A Treasury source said: “Food inflation is much more resilient and difficult to get rid of than we anticipated.”
How does that work? Lets take milk as an example. Only a few companies sully milk in bulk, companies like Arla. They buy direct from the farmer. Girl cows need to be fed, and the cost of feed is £lots.
"Now look here, can't you keep these beastly prices in check" is great as crayon politics. But it isn't real world. I'm in my 3rd decade in the food industry and I have never seen a market like this.
I'm also seeing behaviours that boggle the mind - every day is school day. I secured a Cost Price Increase with a major UK customer a few weeks back. He didn't even ask how much or why. Simply "send me an email". Not only did he accept it and implement it immediately, he back dated it for a couple of purchase orders already raised.
He'll end up paying private equity to subsidise food prices in supermarkets.
I'm sure the likes of Clayton, Dubilier, & Rice, and the Issa Brothers will love it.
Another Brexit vision sadly turns out to be a mirage:
3 December 2020:
The government has unveiled plans to ban the export of live animals for slaughter and fattening.
The proposals form part of an eight-week consultation, launched by Defra secretary George Eustice in England and Wales on Thursday (3 December), seeking views on how to better protect animal welfare during transport.
“We are committed to improving the welfare of animals at all stages of life. Today marks a major step forward in delivering on our manifesto commitment to end live exports for slaughter,” said Mr Eustice.
“Now that we have left the EU, we have an opportunity to end this unnecessary practice. We want to ensure that animals are spared stress prior to slaughter.”
Rishi Sunak’s government has ditched a bill that would effectively have banned the export of live farmed animals for fattening and slaughter.
In a statement to the House of Commons on Thursday 25 May, Defra farming minister Mark Spencer confirmed the government was dropping the Kept Animals Bill.
Mr Spencer told MPs that while animal welfare “has been a key priority of the government”, the legislation “risked being extended far beyond the original commitments in the manifesto”.
But he insisted the government would be “taking forward measures in the Kept Animals Bill individually during the remainder of this parliament”.
The Conservative Animal Welfare Foundation said it was disappointed by the government’s decision to drop the bill.
I am really puzzled by this. I am guessing the CS killed this as they seem to be running the show these days. Presumably they couldn't bear a positive Brexit story.
More likely a sop to the farmers, kicked in the teeth by Brexit promises.
If there is one group of producers that deserve to be kicked in the teeth, it's our subsidy-gobbling, low productivity farmers. We should go for free trade in food, and ignore their special pleading..
No, we should be supporting our farmers and British food properly as the French and Americans back their farmers
Yes. I was wrong. I said 30-42. I was suckered by recent Tory increases and a few 30%s. But were those polls newbie pollsters, are we getting established v newbie split again? Survation 28, Ipsos 28, yougov 25, Opinium now 28 but with swingback.
Gap between Tories to labour is one measurement, Tories not breaking into 30s is another measurement, but a ridiculous 59% LLG with swingback built in? And we are just 10 months from the optimum day for the Tories to hold the election. Everyday beyond May 2nd next year is a worse result for them.
Opinium have Labour only 5 ahead on best to manage economy, Starmer just 5 ahead on who’d make a better PM, and Rishi leaping 3 on publics approval.
Just can't stand that. The whole defeat loaded onto one player. Ditch the penalty shootout please. It's indefensible.
And replace it with what?
Something akin to boxing. If a team wins on goals scored that's it. They win the match. That's equivalent to the knockout or stoppage. If it's equal on that metric (ie a draw after extra time) you get a 'decision'. Like the points verdict on a boxing match that goes the distance. A panel of (expert and independent) judges score the game based on things such as possession, chances created, style, sportsmanship. So the win goes to the better team on the day. The team who played best. Who deserved to win. It'd still have plenty of suspense if the match has been close. That excruciating wait for the judge's scores to be announced. Fantastic. But also fair and above all humane.
If it involves a judge, it isn't a sport, it's a performance.
You could do it on number of corners in the event of a tie after extra time.
Alternatively, you could have the penalty shoot out before extra time.
the idea of sport is to create drama and tension not reduce it (for fear of possible hurt feelings )
You make an excellent point.
I was merely trying to think of other ways one could decide the result of a football match, I'm the event that you didn't want penalties at the end.
We've got a looming constitutional crisis coming up thanks to our unelected head of state.
Will the first King’s speech delivered by Charles include meaningful bills for change - or legislative proposals about the unions and gender equality designed to put Labour on the spot.
And will Buckingham Palace go along with such a political act?
Tories will have turning the country into a republic in their 2029 manifesto.
Why shouldn't a King's/Queen's speech be political? Governments are meant to govern and sometimes that involves politics to get the things you think are important into law.
It's a pretence. Like when complaining about the Queen not ignoring the prorogation request.
Rishi is a traitor and I question his Britishness.
Rishi Sunak will ask stores to cap basic food prices
No 10 in discussions with supermarkets over French-style approach to cost of living crisis
Downing Street is drawing up plans for retailers to introduce price caps on basic food items such as bread and milk to help tackle the rising cost of living, The Telegraph can disclose.
Rishi Sunak’s aides have started work on a deal with supermarkets akin to an agreement in France in which the country’s major retailers charge the “lowest possible amount” for some essential food products.
The move would amount to the biggest attempt to manage supermarket prices since controls established by Edward Heath in 1973. However, No 10 insists that any action by retailers would be voluntary.
It comes amid growing concern in government about sustained pressure on household finances from inflation and the rising cost of borrowing.
A Treasury source said: “Food inflation is much more resilient and difficult to get rid of than we anticipated.”
How does that work? Lets take milk as an example. Only a few companies sully milk in bulk, companies like Arla. They buy direct from the farmer. Girl cows need to be fed, and the cost of feed is £lots.
"Now look here, can't you keep these beastly prices in check" is great as crayon politics. But it isn't real world. I'm in my 3rd decade in the food industry and I have never seen a market like this.
I'm also seeing behaviours that boggle the mind - every day is school day. I secured a Cost Price Increase with a major UK customer a few weeks back. He didn't even ask how much or why. Simply "send me an email". Not only did he accept it and implement it immediately, he back dated it for a couple of purchase orders already raised.
How long before Rishi addresses the nation to ask
Do you want a strong Government which has clear authority for the future to take decisions which will be needed? Do you want Parliament and the elected Government to continue to fight strenuously against inflation? Or do you want them to abandon the struggle against rising prices under pressure from one particularly powerful group of workers...
Another Brexit vision sadly turns out to be a mirage:
3 December 2020:
The government has unveiled plans to ban the export of live animals for slaughter and fattening.
The proposals form part of an eight-week consultation, launched by Defra secretary George Eustice in England and Wales on Thursday (3 December), seeking views on how to better protect animal welfare during transport.
“We are committed to improving the welfare of animals at all stages of life. Today marks a major step forward in delivering on our manifesto commitment to end live exports for slaughter,” said Mr Eustice.
“Now that we have left the EU, we have an opportunity to end this unnecessary practice. We want to ensure that animals are spared stress prior to slaughter.”
Rishi Sunak’s government has ditched a bill that would effectively have banned the export of live farmed animals for fattening and slaughter.
In a statement to the House of Commons on Thursday 25 May, Defra farming minister Mark Spencer confirmed the government was dropping the Kept Animals Bill.
Mr Spencer told MPs that while animal welfare “has been a key priority of the government”, the legislation “risked being extended far beyond the original commitments in the manifesto”.
But he insisted the government would be “taking forward measures in the Kept Animals Bill individually during the remainder of this parliament”.
The Conservative Animal Welfare Foundation said it was disappointed by the government’s decision to drop the bill.
I am really puzzled by this. I am guessing the CS killed this as they seem to be running the show these days. Presumably they couldn't bear a positive Brexit story.
More likely a sop to the farmers, kicked in the teeth by Brexit promises.
If there is one group of producers that deserve to be kicked in the teeth, it's our subsidy-gobbling, low productivity farmers. We should go for free trade in food, and ignore their special pleading..
No, we should be supporting our farmers and British food properly as the French and Americans back their farmers
The best way to enrich our farmers would be to liberalise planning laws so they can sell off their land for development. /sarcasm
Just can't stand that. The whole defeat loaded onto one player. Ditch the penalty shootout please. It's indefensible.
And replace it with what?
Something akin to boxing. If a team wins on goals scored that's it. They win the match. That's equivalent to the knockout or stoppage. If it's equal on that metric (ie a draw after extra time) you get a 'decision'. Like the points verdict on a boxing match that goes the distance. A panel of (expert and independent) judges score the game based on things such as possession, chances created, style, sportsmanship. So the win goes to the better team on the day. The team who played best. Who deserved to win. It'd still have plenty of suspense if the match has been close. That excruciating wait for the judge's scores to be announced. Fantastic. But also fair and above all humane.
If it involves a judge, it isn't a sport, it's a performance.
You could do it on number of corners in the event of a tie after extra time.
Alternatively, you could have the penalty shoot out before extra time.
Make the goals bigger
Or keep removing one player from each side... Every five minutes one goes. The fewer players there are, the easier it is to score.
We've got a looming constitutional crisis coming up thanks to our unelected head of state.
Will the first King’s speech delivered by Charles include meaningful bills for change - or legislative proposals about the unions and gender equality designed to put Labour on the spot.
And will Buckingham Palace go along with such a political act?
Tories will have turning the country into a republic in their 2029 manifesto.
Why shouldn't a King's/Queen's speech be political? Governments are meant to govern and sometimes that involves politics to get the things you think are important into law.
It's a pretence. Like when complaining about the Queen not ignoring the prorogation request.
She did not save us, she was a willing participant in an unlawful act.
I want a head of state that will stand up to unlawful acts, that's why we need a elected head of state.
Another Brexit vision sadly turns out to be a mirage:
3 December 2020:
The government has unveiled plans to ban the export of live animals for slaughter and fattening.
The proposals form part of an eight-week consultation, launched by Defra secretary George Eustice in England and Wales on Thursday (3 December), seeking views on how to better protect animal welfare during transport.
“We are committed to improving the welfare of animals at all stages of life. Today marks a major step forward in delivering on our manifesto commitment to end live exports for slaughter,” said Mr Eustice.
“Now that we have left the EU, we have an opportunity to end this unnecessary practice. We want to ensure that animals are spared stress prior to slaughter.”
Rishi Sunak’s government has ditched a bill that would effectively have banned the export of live farmed animals for fattening and slaughter.
In a statement to the House of Commons on Thursday 25 May, Defra farming minister Mark Spencer confirmed the government was dropping the Kept Animals Bill.
Mr Spencer told MPs that while animal welfare “has been a key priority of the government”, the legislation “risked being extended far beyond the original commitments in the manifesto”.
But he insisted the government would be “taking forward measures in the Kept Animals Bill individually during the remainder of this parliament”.
The Conservative Animal Welfare Foundation said it was disappointed by the government’s decision to drop the bill.
I am really puzzled by this. I am guessing the CS killed this as they seem to be running the show these days. Presumably they couldn't bear a positive Brexit story.
More likely a sop to the farmers, kicked in the teeth by Brexit promises.
If there is one group of producers that deserve to be kicked in the teeth, it's our subsidy-gobbling, low productivity farmers. We should go for free trade in food, and ignore their special pleading..
No, we should be supporting our farmers and British food properly as the French and Americans back their farmers
Well we voted for Brexit instead. Including, bizarrely, many farmers.
Rishi is a traitor and I question his Britishness.
Rishi Sunak will ask stores to cap basic food prices
No 10 in discussions with supermarkets over French-style approach to cost of living crisis
Downing Street is drawing up plans for retailers to introduce price caps on basic food items such as bread and milk to help tackle the rising cost of living, The Telegraph can disclose.
Rishi Sunak’s aides have started work on a deal with supermarkets akin to an agreement in France in which the country’s major retailers charge the “lowest possible amount” for some essential food products.
The move would amount to the biggest attempt to manage supermarket prices since controls established by Edward Heath in 1973. However, No 10 insists that any action by retailers would be voluntary.
It comes amid growing concern in government about sustained pressure on household finances from inflation and the rising cost of borrowing.
A Treasury source said: “Food inflation is much more resilient and difficult to get rid of than we anticipated.”
How does that work? Lets take milk as an example. Only a few companies sully milk in bulk, companies like Arla. They buy direct from the farmer. Girl cows need to be fed, and the cost of feed is £lots.
"Now look here, can't you keep these beastly prices in check" is great as crayon politics. But it isn't real world. I'm in my 3rd decade in the food industry and I have never seen a market like this.
I'm also seeing behaviours that boggle the mind - every day is school day. I secured a Cost Price Increase with a major UK customer a few weeks back. He didn't even ask how much or why. Simply "send me an email". Not only did he accept it and implement it immediately, he back dated it for a couple of purchase orders already raised.
How long before Rishi addresses the nation to ask
Do you want a strong Government which has clear authority for the future to take decisions which will be needed? Do you want Parliament and the elected Government to continue to fight strenuously against inflation? Or do you want them to abandon the struggle against rising prices under pressure from one particularly powerful group of workers...
Sunak is not quite allowed to wait for the 50th anniversary of that election. Nearly but not quite.
Another Brexit vision sadly turns out to be a mirage:
3 December 2020:
The government has unveiled plans to ban the export of live animals for slaughter and fattening.
The proposals form part of an eight-week consultation, launched by Defra secretary George Eustice in England and Wales on Thursday (3 December), seeking views on how to better protect animal welfare during transport.
“We are committed to improving the welfare of animals at all stages of life. Today marks a major step forward in delivering on our manifesto commitment to end live exports for slaughter,” said Mr Eustice.
“Now that we have left the EU, we have an opportunity to end this unnecessary practice. We want to ensure that animals are spared stress prior to slaughter.”
Rishi Sunak’s government has ditched a bill that would effectively have banned the export of live farmed animals for fattening and slaughter.
In a statement to the House of Commons on Thursday 25 May, Defra farming minister Mark Spencer confirmed the government was dropping the Kept Animals Bill.
Mr Spencer told MPs that while animal welfare “has been a key priority of the government”, the legislation “risked being extended far beyond the original commitments in the manifesto”.
But he insisted the government would be “taking forward measures in the Kept Animals Bill individually during the remainder of this parliament”.
The Conservative Animal Welfare Foundation said it was disappointed by the government’s decision to drop the bill.
I am really puzzled by this. I am guessing the CS killed this as they seem to be running the show these days. Presumably they couldn't bear a positive Brexit story.
More likely a sop to the farmers, kicked in the teeth by Brexit promises.
If there is one group of producers that deserve to be kicked in the teeth, it's our subsidy-gobbling, low productivity farmers. We should go for free trade in food, and ignore their special pleading..
No, we should be supporting our farmers and British food properly as the French and Americans back their farmers
But “we” are not though. This Tory governments tariff shredding FTAs are destroying farming incomes, and whole niche UK industries and companies, where jobs and livelihoods are all interlinked reliant on each other.
Daft thing for you to post considering this hopelessly confused and incompetent government doing the very opposite.
Another Brexit vision sadly turns out to be a mirage:
3 December 2020:
The government has unveiled plans to ban the export of live animals for slaughter and fattening.
The proposals form part of an eight-week consultation, launched by Defra secretary George Eustice in England and Wales on Thursday (3 December), seeking views on how to better protect animal welfare during transport.
“We are committed to improving the welfare of animals at all stages of life. Today marks a major step forward in delivering on our manifesto commitment to end live exports for slaughter,” said Mr Eustice.
“Now that we have left the EU, we have an opportunity to end this unnecessary practice. We want to ensure that animals are spared stress prior to slaughter.”
Rishi Sunak’s government has ditched a bill that would effectively have banned the export of live farmed animals for fattening and slaughter.
In a statement to the House of Commons on Thursday 25 May, Defra farming minister Mark Spencer confirmed the government was dropping the Kept Animals Bill.
Mr Spencer told MPs that while animal welfare “has been a key priority of the government”, the legislation “risked being extended far beyond the original commitments in the manifesto”.
But he insisted the government would be “taking forward measures in the Kept Animals Bill individually during the remainder of this parliament”.
The Conservative Animal Welfare Foundation said it was disappointed by the government’s decision to drop the bill.
I am really puzzled by this. I am guessing the CS killed this as they seem to be running the show these days. Presumably they couldn't bear a positive Brexit story.
More likely a sop to the farmers, kicked in the teeth by Brexit promises.
If there is one group of producers that deserve to be kicked in the teeth, it's our subsidy-gobbling, low productivity farmers. We should go for free trade in food, and ignore their special pleading..
No, we should be supporting our farmers and British food properly as the French and Americans back their farmers
Well we voted for Brexit instead. Including, bizarrely, many farmers.
Absolute roasters, second biggest Brexit self harmers after the DUP.
Another Brexit vision sadly turns out to be a mirage:
3 December 2020:
The government has unveiled plans to ban the export of live animals for slaughter and fattening.
The proposals form part of an eight-week consultation, launched by Defra secretary George Eustice in England and Wales on Thursday (3 December), seeking views on how to better protect animal welfare during transport.
“We are committed to improving the welfare of animals at all stages of life. Today marks a major step forward in delivering on our manifesto commitment to end live exports for slaughter,” said Mr Eustice.
“Now that we have left the EU, we have an opportunity to end this unnecessary practice. We want to ensure that animals are spared stress prior to slaughter.”
Rishi Sunak’s government has ditched a bill that would effectively have banned the export of live farmed animals for fattening and slaughter.
In a statement to the House of Commons on Thursday 25 May, Defra farming minister Mark Spencer confirmed the government was dropping the Kept Animals Bill.
Mr Spencer told MPs that while animal welfare “has been a key priority of the government”, the legislation “risked being extended far beyond the original commitments in the manifesto”.
But he insisted the government would be “taking forward measures in the Kept Animals Bill individually during the remainder of this parliament”.
The Conservative Animal Welfare Foundation said it was disappointed by the government’s decision to drop the bill.
I am really puzzled by this. I am guessing the CS killed this as they seem to be running the show these days. Presumably they couldn't bear a positive Brexit story.
More likely a sop to the farmers, kicked in the teeth by Brexit promises.
If there is one group of producers that deserve to be kicked in the teeth, it's our subsidy-gobbling, low productivity farmers. We should go for free trade in food, and ignore their special pleading..
No, we should be supporting our farmers and British food properly as the French and Americans back their farmers
But “we” are not though. This Tory governments tariff shredding FTAs are destroying farming incomes, and whole niche UK industries and companies, where jobs and livelihoods are all interlinked reliant on each other.
Daft thing for you to post considering this hopelessly confused and incompetent government doing the very opposite.
The only FTAs of any significance we have now we didn't in the EU are with Australia and New Zealand and there are plenty of opportunities for British farmers to expand exports there too
Just can't stand that. The whole defeat loaded onto one player. Ditch the penalty shootout please. It's indefensible.
And replace it with what?
Something akin to boxing. If a team wins on goals scored that's it. They win the match. That's equivalent to the knockout or stoppage. If it's equal on that metric (ie a draw after extra time) you get a 'decision'. Like the points verdict on a boxing match that goes the distance. A panel of (expert and independent) judges score the game based on things such as possession, chances created, style, sportsmanship. So the win goes to the better team on the day. The team who played best. Who deserved to win. It'd still have plenty of suspense if the match has been close. That excruciating wait for the judge's scores to be announced. Fantastic. But also fair and above all humane.
If it involves a judge, it isn't a sport, it's a performance.
You could do it on number of corners in the event of a tie after extra time.
Alternatively, you could have the penalty shoot out before extra time.
Make the goals bigger
Or keep removing one player from each side... Every five minutes one goes...
Snipers in the stand? The referee screaming "take the shot"? Well, it could work...
Rishi is a traitor and I question his Britishness.
Rishi Sunak will ask stores to cap basic food prices
No 10 in discussions with supermarkets over French-style approach to cost of living crisis
Downing Street is drawing up plans for retailers to introduce price caps on basic food items such as bread and milk to help tackle the rising cost of living, The Telegraph can disclose.
Rishi Sunak’s aides have started work on a deal with supermarkets akin to an agreement in France in which the country’s major retailers charge the “lowest possible amount” for some essential food products.
The move would amount to the biggest attempt to manage supermarket prices since controls established by Edward Heath in 1973. However, No 10 insists that any action by retailers would be voluntary.
It comes amid growing concern in government about sustained pressure on household finances from inflation and the rising cost of borrowing.
A Treasury source said: “Food inflation is much more resilient and difficult to get rid of than we anticipated.”
How does that work? Lets take milk as an example. Only a few companies sully milk in bulk, companies like Arla. They buy direct from the farmer. Girl cows need to be fed, and the cost of feed is £lots.
"Now look here, can't you keep these beastly prices in check" is great as crayon politics. But it isn't real world. I'm in my 3rd decade in the food industry and I have never seen a market like this.
I'm also seeing behaviours that boggle the mind - every day is school day. I secured a Cost Price Increase with a major UK customer a few weeks back. He didn't even ask how much or why. Simply "send me an email". Not only did he accept it and implement it immediately, he back dated it for a couple of purchase orders already raised.
He'll end up paying private equity to subsidise food prices in supermarkets.
I'm sure the likes of Clayton, Dubilier, & Rice, and the Issa Brothers will love it.
Both of them will be channelling Sir Bob of Geldof "give us yer fucking money"
Rishi is a traitor and I question his Britishness.
Rishi Sunak will ask stores to cap basic food prices
No 10 in discussions with supermarkets over French-style approach to cost of living crisis
Downing Street is drawing up plans for retailers to introduce price caps on basic food items such as bread and milk to help tackle the rising cost of living, The Telegraph can disclose.
Rishi Sunak’s aides have started work on a deal with supermarkets akin to an agreement in France in which the country’s major retailers charge the “lowest possible amount” for some essential food products.
The move would amount to the biggest attempt to manage supermarket prices since controls established by Edward Heath in 1973. However, No 10 insists that any action by retailers would be voluntary.
It comes amid growing concern in government about sustained pressure on household finances from inflation and the rising cost of borrowing.
A Treasury source said: “Food inflation is much more resilient and difficult to get rid of than we anticipated.”
This looks like a desperate measure by Sunak to look like he gives a fig about people’s struggles. It’s yet another chase for a good headline . The only thing the government is concerned about is its election chances !
Rishi is a traitor and I question his Britishness.
Rishi Sunak will ask stores to cap basic food prices
No 10 in discussions with supermarkets over French-style approach to cost of living crisis
Downing Street is drawing up plans for retailers to introduce price caps on basic food items such as bread and milk to help tackle the rising cost of living, The Telegraph can disclose.
Rishi Sunak’s aides have started work on a deal with supermarkets akin to an agreement in France in which the country’s major retailers charge the “lowest possible amount” for some essential food products.
The move would amount to the biggest attempt to manage supermarket prices since controls established by Edward Heath in 1973. However, No 10 insists that any action by retailers would be voluntary.
It comes amid growing concern in government about sustained pressure on household finances from inflation and the rising cost of borrowing.
A Treasury source said: “Food inflation is much more resilient and difficult to get rid of than we anticipated.”
How does that work? Lets take milk as an example. Only a few companies sully milk in bulk, companies like Arla. They buy direct from the farmer. Girl cows need to be fed, and the cost of feed is £lots.
"Now look here, can't you keep these beastly prices in check" is great as crayon politics. But it isn't real world. I'm in my 3rd decade in the food industry and I have never seen a market like this.
I'm also seeing behaviours that boggle the mind - every day is school day. I secured a Cost Price Increase with a major UK customer a few weeks back. He didn't even ask how much or why. Simply "send me an email". Not only did he accept it and implement it immediately, he back dated it for a couple of purchase orders already raised.
I don't understand this response. Can you reword it please?
Rishi is a traitor and I question his Britishness.
Rishi Sunak will ask stores to cap basic food prices
No 10 in discussions with supermarkets over French-style approach to cost of living crisis
Downing Street is drawing up plans for retailers to introduce price caps on basic food items such as bread and milk to help tackle the rising cost of living, The Telegraph can disclose.
Rishi Sunak’s aides have started work on a deal with supermarkets akin to an agreement in France in which the country’s major retailers charge the “lowest possible amount” for some essential food products.
The move would amount to the biggest attempt to manage supermarket prices since controls established by Edward Heath in 1973. However, No 10 insists that any action by retailers would be voluntary.
It comes amid growing concern in government about sustained pressure on household finances from inflation and the rising cost of borrowing.
A Treasury source said: “Food inflation is much more resilient and difficult to get rid of than we anticipated.”
What the actual fuck type of Tory is he even PRETENDING to be? The supermarkets do a far better job of keeping down food prices than your shit Government would ever do. Leave food the FUCK ALONE. Ministry of Bananas is meant to be a joke ffs.
Will someone please get rid (politically) of this utter clown and release him to this glittering Silicone Valley career he believes is ahead of him please.
Another Brexit vision sadly turns out to be a mirage:
3 December 2020:
The government has unveiled plans to ban the export of live animals for slaughter and fattening.
The proposals form part of an eight-week consultation, launched by Defra secretary George Eustice in England and Wales on Thursday (3 December), seeking views on how to better protect animal welfare during transport.
“We are committed to improving the welfare of animals at all stages of life. Today marks a major step forward in delivering on our manifesto commitment to end live exports for slaughter,” said Mr Eustice.
“Now that we have left the EU, we have an opportunity to end this unnecessary practice. We want to ensure that animals are spared stress prior to slaughter.”
Rishi Sunak’s government has ditched a bill that would effectively have banned the export of live farmed animals for fattening and slaughter.
In a statement to the House of Commons on Thursday 25 May, Defra farming minister Mark Spencer confirmed the government was dropping the Kept Animals Bill.
Mr Spencer told MPs that while animal welfare “has been a key priority of the government”, the legislation “risked being extended far beyond the original commitments in the manifesto”.
But he insisted the government would be “taking forward measures in the Kept Animals Bill individually during the remainder of this parliament”.
The Conservative Animal Welfare Foundation said it was disappointed by the government’s decision to drop the bill.
I am really puzzled by this. I am guessing the CS killed this as they seem to be running the show these days. Presumably they couldn't bear a positive Brexit story.
More likely a sop to the farmers, kicked in the teeth by Brexit promises.
If there is one group of producers that deserve to be kicked in the teeth, it's our subsidy-gobbling, low productivity farmers. We should go for free trade in food, and ignore their special pleading..
No, we should be supporting our farmers and British food properly as the French and Americans back their farmers
Well we voted for Brexit instead. Including, bizarrely, many farmers.
Absolute roasters, second biggest Brexit self harmers after the DUP.
I was expecting Geoff Marshall to be a first day poster, but he wasn't last time I checked. Some TrainTubers did upload: I'll see if I can find some links.
The original Horse was Leon too, Not much doubt about it in hindsight.
How you manage to find time to earn a living Leon whilst playing games with so many PB avatars, I can only put down to you having discovered the optimum combination of drugs.
Just can't stand that. The whole defeat loaded onto one player. Ditch the penalty shootout please. It's indefensible.
And replace it with what?
Something akin to boxing. If a team wins on goals scored that's it. They win the match. That's equivalent to the knockout or stoppage. If it's equal on that metric (ie a draw after extra time) you get a 'decision'. Like the points verdict on a boxing match that goes the distance. A panel of (expert and independent) judges score the game based on things such as possession, chances created, style, sportsmanship. So the win goes to the better team on the day. The team who played best. Who deserved to win. It'd still have plenty of suspense if the match has been close. That excruciating wait for the judge's scores to be announced. Fantastic. But also fair and above all humane.
If it involves a judge, it isn't a sport, it's a performance.
You could do it on number of corners in the event of a tie after extra time.
Alternatively, you could have the penalty shoot out before extra time.
Make the goals bigger
Or keep removing one player from each side... Every five minutes one goes. The fewer players there are, the easier it is to score.
If it's still a draw after extra time, neither team wins. Instead, the winner is deemed to be the best loser from the previous round (which I guess would be either Middlesbrough or Sunderland). That creates an incentive to score; a draw is as bad as a loss.
Another Brexit vision sadly turns out to be a mirage:
3 December 2020:
The government has unveiled plans to ban the export of live animals for slaughter and fattening.
The proposals form part of an eight-week consultation, launched by Defra secretary George Eustice in England and Wales on Thursday (3 December), seeking views on how to better protect animal welfare during transport.
“We are committed to improving the welfare of animals at all stages of life. Today marks a major step forward in delivering on our manifesto commitment to end live exports for slaughter,” said Mr Eustice.
“Now that we have left the EU, we have an opportunity to end this unnecessary practice. We want to ensure that animals are spared stress prior to slaughter.”
Rishi Sunak’s government has ditched a bill that would effectively have banned the export of live farmed animals for fattening and slaughter.
In a statement to the House of Commons on Thursday 25 May, Defra farming minister Mark Spencer confirmed the government was dropping the Kept Animals Bill.
Mr Spencer told MPs that while animal welfare “has been a key priority of the government”, the legislation “risked being extended far beyond the original commitments in the manifesto”.
But he insisted the government would be “taking forward measures in the Kept Animals Bill individually during the remainder of this parliament”.
The Conservative Animal Welfare Foundation said it was disappointed by the government’s decision to drop the bill.
I am really puzzled by this. I am guessing the CS killed this as they seem to be running the show these days. Presumably they couldn't bear a positive Brexit story.
More likely a sop to the farmers, kicked in the teeth by Brexit promises.
If there is one group of producers that deserve to be kicked in the teeth, it's our subsidy-gobbling, low productivity farmers. We should go for free trade in food, and ignore their special pleading..
No, we should be supporting our farmers and British food properly as the French and Americans back their farmers
But “we” are not though. This Tory governments tariff shredding FTAs are destroying farming incomes, and whole niche UK industries and companies, where jobs and livelihoods are all interlinked reliant on each other.
Daft thing for you to post considering this hopelessly confused and incompetent government doing the very opposite.
The only FTAs of any significance we have now we didn't in the EU are with Australia and New Zealand and there are plenty of opportunities for British farmers to expand exports there too
Wrong.
fears for firms at risk from cheap imports, that worker protections and economic security are being neglected, that wider opportunities to improve trade performance are being missed, the ‘net zero’ climate promise undermined, also, that the government is weakening its own hand in negotiations.
In other words Business and Trade under this Tory government is utter shambles
I come from farming family. Farming industry knows if you cut tarrifs you are actually cutting farming incomes, is the truth.
in this report there’s a billion dollar UK industry at stake, and levelling up jobs to protect, and that’s the main purpose for applying tariffs in the first place isn’t it - protect our industries and our workers and their incomes? And are pesticides limits and control not important too?
You tried to portray this government as standing up for Britain, BJ4BW etc - the mounting evidence and the truth is very opposite to what you spun.
Why do you think you are behind and heading for a bloodbath? It’s the betrayal.
Just can't stand that. The whole defeat loaded onto one player. Ditch the penalty shootout please. It's indefensible.
And replace it with what?
Something akin to boxing. If a team wins on goals scored that's it. They win the match. That's equivalent to the knockout or stoppage. If it's equal on that metric (ie a draw after extra time) you get a 'decision'. Like the points verdict on a boxing match that goes the distance. A panel of (expert and independent) judges score the game based on things such as possession, chances created, style, sportsmanship. So the win goes to the better team on the day. The team who played best. Who deserved to win. It'd still have plenty of suspense if the match has been close. That excruciating wait for the judge's scores to be announced. Fantastic. But also fair and above all humane.
If it involves a judge, it isn't a sport, it's a performance.
You could do it on number of corners in the event of a tie after extra time.
Alternatively, you could have the penalty shoot out before extra time.
Make the goals bigger
Or keep removing one player from each side... Every five minutes one goes...
Snipers in the stand? The referee screaming "take the shot"? Well, it could work...
You wouldn't have to actually kill the players, you could use paintballs and just remove the ones who are hit.
We've got a looming constitutional crisis coming up thanks to our unelected head of state.
Will the first King’s speech delivered by Charles include meaningful bills for change - or legislative proposals about the unions and gender equality designed to put Labour on the spot.
And will Buckingham Palace go along with such a political act?
Tories will have turning the country into a republic in their 2029 manifesto.
Why shouldn't a King's/Queen's speech be political? Governments are meant to govern and sometimes that involves politics to get the things you think are important into law.
Yes, 'political' in this sense seems to be a metaphor for 'things I don't like'.
This is in no way a constitutional crisis unless Prince Charles is a dick about it.
Just can't stand that. The whole defeat loaded onto one player. Ditch the penalty shootout please. It's indefensible.
And replace it with what?
Something akin to boxing. If a team wins on goals scored that's it. They win the match. That's equivalent to the knockout or stoppage. If it's equal on that metric (ie a draw after extra time) you get a 'decision'. Like the points verdict on a boxing match that goes the distance. A panel of (expert and independent) judges score the game based on things such as possession, chances created, style, sportsmanship. So the win goes to the better team on the day. The team who played best. Who deserved to win. It'd still have plenty of suspense if the match has been close. That excruciating wait for the judge's scores to be announced. Fantastic. But also fair and above all humane.
If it involves a judge, it isn't a sport, it's a performance.
You could do it on number of corners in the event of a tie after extra time.
Alternatively, you could have the penalty shoot out before extra time.
Make the goals bigger
Or keep removing one player from each side... Every five minutes one goes. The fewer players there are, the easier it is to score.
If it's still a draw after extra time, neither team wins. Instead, the winner is deemed to be the best loser from the previous round (which I guess would be either Middlesbrough or Sunderland). That creates an incentive to score; a draw is as bad as a loss.
How does that work in the first round. Also, what happens if both teams won, say, 1-0 in the previous round?
The original Horse was Leon too, Not much doubt about it in hindsight.
How you manage to find time to earn a living Leon whilst playing games with so many PB avatars, I can only put down to you having discovered the optimum combination of drugs.
Rishi is a traitor and I question his Britishness.
Rishi Sunak will ask stores to cap basic food prices
No 10 in discussions with supermarkets over French-style approach to cost of living crisis
Downing Street is drawing up plans for retailers to introduce price caps on basic food items such as bread and milk to help tackle the rising cost of living, The Telegraph can disclose.
Rishi Sunak’s aides have started work on a deal with supermarkets akin to an agreement in France in which the country’s major retailers charge the “lowest possible amount” for some essential food products.
The move would amount to the biggest attempt to manage supermarket prices since controls established by Edward Heath in 1973. However, No 10 insists that any action by retailers would be voluntary.
It comes amid growing concern in government about sustained pressure on household finances from inflation and the rising cost of borrowing.
A Treasury source said: “Food inflation is much more resilient and difficult to get rid of than we anticipated.”
What the actual fuck type of Tory is he even PRETENDING to be? The supermarkets do a far better job of keeping down food prices than your shit Government would ever do. Leave food the FUCK ALONE. Ministry of Bananas is meant to be a joke ffs.
Will someone please get rid (politically) of this utter clown and release him to this glittering Silicone Valley career he believes is ahead of him please.
And who was the complete pillock earlier here who was saying that Rishi's political philosophy was 'Laissez Faire'?? That's aged well.
Just can't stand that. The whole defeat loaded onto one player. Ditch the penalty shootout please. It's indefensible.
And replace it with what?
Something akin to boxing. If a team wins on goals scored that's it. They win the match. That's equivalent to the knockout or stoppage. If it's equal on that metric (ie a draw after extra time) you get a 'decision'. Like the points verdict on a boxing match that goes the distance. A panel of (expert and independent) judges score the game based on things such as possession, chances created, style, sportsmanship. So the win goes to the better team on the day. The team who played best. Who deserved to win. It'd still have plenty of suspense if the match has been close. That excruciating wait for the judge's scores to be announced. Fantastic. But also fair and above all humane.
If it involves a judge, it isn't a sport, it's a performance.
You could do it on number of corners in the event of a tie after extra time.
Alternatively, you could have the penalty shoot out before extra time.
Make the goals bigger
Or keep removing one player from each side... Every five minutes one goes...
Snipers in the stand? The referee screaming "take the shot"? Well, it could work...
You wouldn't have to actually kill the players, you could use paintballs and just remove the ones who are hit.
Remove the ones who fall over. Grealish first obvs.
Just can't stand that. The whole defeat loaded onto one player. Ditch the penalty shootout please. It's indefensible.
And replace it with what?
Something akin to boxing. If a team wins on goals scored that's it. They win the match. That's equivalent to the knockout or stoppage. If it's equal on that metric (ie a draw after extra time) you get a 'decision'. Like the points verdict on a boxing match that goes the distance. A panel of (expert and independent) judges score the game based on things such as possession, chances created, style, sportsmanship. So the win goes to the better team on the day. The team who played best. Who deserved to win. It'd still have plenty of suspense if the match has been close. That excruciating wait for the judge's scores to be announced. Fantastic. But also fair and above all humane.
If it involves a judge, it isn't a sport, it's a performance.
Boxing not a sport? Ali, Frazier, Foreman, the Thrilla in Manilla? Fury v Joshua at Wembley if it happens. Not sport? C'mon.
Another Brexit vision sadly turns out to be a mirage:
3 December 2020:
The government has unveiled plans to ban the export of live animals for slaughter and fattening.
The proposals form part of an eight-week consultation, launched by Defra secretary George Eustice in England and Wales on Thursday (3 December), seeking views on how to better protect animal welfare during transport.
“We are committed to improving the welfare of animals at all stages of life. Today marks a major step forward in delivering on our manifesto commitment to end live exports for slaughter,” said Mr Eustice.
“Now that we have left the EU, we have an opportunity to end this unnecessary practice. We want to ensure that animals are spared stress prior to slaughter.”
Rishi Sunak’s government has ditched a bill that would effectively have banned the export of live farmed animals for fattening and slaughter.
In a statement to the House of Commons on Thursday 25 May, Defra farming minister Mark Spencer confirmed the government was dropping the Kept Animals Bill.
Mr Spencer told MPs that while animal welfare “has been a key priority of the government”, the legislation “risked being extended far beyond the original commitments in the manifesto”.
But he insisted the government would be “taking forward measures in the Kept Animals Bill individually during the remainder of this parliament”.
The Conservative Animal Welfare Foundation said it was disappointed by the government’s decision to drop the bill.
I am really puzzled by this. I am guessing the CS killed this as they seem to be running the show these days. Presumably they couldn't bear a positive Brexit story.
More likely a sop to the farmers, kicked in the teeth by Brexit promises.
If there is one group of producers that deserve to be kicked in the teeth, it's our subsidy-gobbling, low productivity farmers. We should go for free trade in food, and ignore their special pleading..
No, we should be supporting our farmers and British food properly as the French and Americans back their farmers
But “we” are not though. This Tory governments tariff shredding FTAs are destroying farming incomes, and whole niche UK industries and companies, where jobs and livelihoods are all interlinked reliant on each other.
Daft thing for you to post considering this hopelessly confused and incompetent government doing the very opposite.
The only FTAs of any significance we have now we didn't in the EU are with Australia and New Zealand and there are plenty of opportunities for British farmers to expand exports there too
Wrong.
fears for firms at risk from cheap imports, that worker protections and economic security are being neglected, that wider opportunities to improve trade performance are being missed, the ‘net zero’ climate promise undermined, also, that the government is weakening its own hand in negotiations.
In other words Business and Trade under this Tory government is utter shambles
I come from farming family. Farming industry knows if you cut tarrifs you are actually cutting farming incomes, is the truth.
in this report there’s a billion dollar UK industry at stake, and levelling up jobs to protect, and that’s the main purpose for applying tariffs in the first place isn’t it - protect our industries and our workers and their incomes? And are pesticides limits and control not important too?
You tried to portray this government as standing up for Britain, BJ4BW etc - the mounting evidence and the truth is very opposite to what you spun.
Why do you think you are behind and heading for a bloodbath? It’s the betrayal.
Well we have technically increased barriers for EU farm products to the UK, the only tariff barriers removed on farming imports post Brexit the EU hasn't already removed are from Australia and NZ as mentioned
What Is going to stop Sunak suffering the same fate as Major?
SKS is not Tony Blair.
But set against that, Rishi is a much less effective retail politician than John Major. Even in '97, by which time he was clearly broken, you could see the remains of the charisma that triumphed in '92. Major was a has been. In terms of political star quality, Sunak looks more like a never was.
One of the interesting data points we'll get next year is where the balance between oppositions wining and governments losing lies. My hunch is that the second is much more important.
What Is going to stop Sunak suffering the same fate as Major?
SKS is not Tony Blair.
But set against that, Rishi is a much less effective retail politician than John Major. Even in '97, by which time he was clearly broken, you could see the remains of the charisma that triumphed in '92. Major was a has been. In terms of political star quality, Sunak looks more like a never was.
One of the interesting data points we'll get next year is where the balance between oppositions wining and governments losing lies. My hunch is that the second is much more important.
Just can't stand that. The whole defeat loaded onto one player. Ditch the penalty shootout please. It's indefensible.
And replace it with what?
Something akin to boxing. If a team wins on goals scored that's it. They win the match. That's equivalent to the knockout or stoppage. If it's equal on that metric (ie a draw after extra time) you get a 'decision'. Like the points verdict on a boxing match that goes the distance. A panel of (expert and independent) judges score the game based on things such as possession, chances created, style, sportsmanship. So the win goes to the better team on the day. The team who played best. Who deserved to win. It'd still have plenty of suspense if the match has been close. That excruciating wait for the judge's scores to be announced. Fantastic. But also fair and above all humane.
If it involves a judge, it isn't a sport, it's a performance.
You could do it on number of corners in the event of a tie after extra time.
Alternatively, you could have the penalty shoot out before extra time.
Make the goals bigger
Or keep removing one player from each side... Every five minutes one goes. The fewer players there are, the easier it is to score.
Oy, that’s my idea! At least with this it would be based on all football skills, not just penalty kicks.
Just can't stand that. The whole defeat loaded onto one player. Ditch the penalty shootout please. It's indefensible.
And replace it with what?
Something akin to boxing. If a team wins on goals scored that's it. They win the match. That's equivalent to the knockout or stoppage. If it's equal on that metric (ie a draw after extra time) you get a 'decision'. Like the points verdict on a boxing match that goes the distance. A panel of (expert and independent) judges score the game based on things such as possession, chances created, style, sportsmanship. So the win goes to the better team on the day. The team who played best. Who deserved to win. It'd still have plenty of suspense if the match has been close. That excruciating wait for the judge's scores to be announced. Fantastic. But also fair and above all humane.
If it involves a judge, it isn't a sport, it's a performance.
You could do it on number of corners in the event of a tie after extra time.
Alternatively, you could have the penalty shoot out before extra time.
Make the goals bigger
Or keep removing one player from each side... Every five minutes one goes. The fewer players there are, the easier it is to score.
If it's still a draw after extra time, neither team wins. Instead, the winner is deemed to be the best loser from the previous round (which I guess would be either Middlesbrough or Sunderland). That creates an incentive to score; a draw is as bad as a loss.
How does that work in the first round. Also, what happens if both teams won, say, 1-0 in the previous round?
Well look, I just come up with the ideas. It's up to football to make them work. I'm sure, given their track record in making things work which other sports manage to do just fine with all will be well.
But it doesn't really matter. The point is to have some alternative winner to make a draw equal to a loss: that way draws will be highly unlikely. In the cases you mention, the first answer could be one of the other losers from the first round, and the second could be the drawing of lots. It's still no more arbitrary than penalties. And anyway, as I understand football fans, they like nothing better than a last minute win they didn't deserve. Having the chance to win from, metaphorically, beyond the grave would surely be very popular.
We've got a looming constitutional crisis coming up thanks to our unelected head of state.
Will the first King’s speech delivered by Charles include meaningful bills for change - or legislative proposals about the unions and gender equality designed to put Labour on the spot.
And will Buckingham Palace go along with such a political act?
Tories will have turning the country into a republic in their 2029 manifesto.
Why shouldn't a King's/Queen's speech be political? Governments are meant to govern and sometimes that involves politics to get the things you think are important into law.
Yes, 'political' in this sense seems to be a metaphor for 'things I don't like'.
This is in no way a constitutional crisis unless Prince Charles is a dick about it.
It would certainly be controversial, especially after Boris used HMQ to read out a load of "laws" he'd no intention of passing because he knew he was calling an election.
Rishi is a traitor and I question his Britishness.
Rishi Sunak will ask stores to cap basic food prices
No 10 in discussions with supermarkets over French-style approach to cost of living crisis
Downing Street is drawing up plans for retailers to introduce price caps on basic food items such as bread and milk to help tackle the rising cost of living, The Telegraph can disclose.
Rishi Sunak’s aides have started work on a deal with supermarkets akin to an agreement in France in which the country’s major retailers charge the “lowest possible amount” for some essential food products.
The move would amount to the biggest attempt to manage supermarket prices since controls established by Edward Heath in 1973. However, No 10 insists that any action by retailers would be voluntary.
It comes amid growing concern in government about sustained pressure on household finances from inflation and the rising cost of borrowing.
A Treasury source said: “Food inflation is much more resilient and difficult to get rid of than we anticipated.”
What the actual fuck type of Tory is he even PRETENDING to be? The supermarkets do a far better job of keeping down food prices than your shit Government would ever do. Leave food the FUCK ALONE. Ministry of Bananas is meant to be a joke ffs.
Will someone please get rid (politically) of this utter clown and release him to this glittering Silicone Valley career he believes is ahead of him please.
I have actually been going thru the NatCon YouTube's. Some are unexpectedly good (JRM, Goodwin) some are not. But they were mostly on culture issues, and only a few (JRM!) seemed to have an underlying theory of how an economy works. Which makes me think: have the Conservatives, being now dominated by rich citizens of nowhere and consumed with the Culture War, simply forgotten how to run an economy? I'm beginning to think that they just don't know how to do it.
Another Brexit vision sadly turns out to be a mirage:
3 December 2020:
The government has unveiled plans to ban the export of live animals for slaughter and fattening.
The proposals form part of an eight-week consultation, launched by Defra secretary George Eustice in England and Wales on Thursday (3 December), seeking views on how to better protect animal welfare during transport.
“We are committed to improving the welfare of animals at all stages of life. Today marks a major step forward in delivering on our manifesto commitment to end live exports for slaughter,” said Mr Eustice.
“Now that we have left the EU, we have an opportunity to end this unnecessary practice. We want to ensure that animals are spared stress prior to slaughter.”
Rishi Sunak’s government has ditched a bill that would effectively have banned the export of live farmed animals for fattening and slaughter.
In a statement to the House of Commons on Thursday 25 May, Defra farming minister Mark Spencer confirmed the government was dropping the Kept Animals Bill.
Mr Spencer told MPs that while animal welfare “has been a key priority of the government”, the legislation “risked being extended far beyond the original commitments in the manifesto”.
But he insisted the government would be “taking forward measures in the Kept Animals Bill individually during the remainder of this parliament”.
The Conservative Animal Welfare Foundation said it was disappointed by the government’s decision to drop the bill.
I am really puzzled by this. I am guessing the CS killed this as they seem to be running the show these days. Presumably they couldn't bear a positive Brexit story.
More likely a sop to the farmers, kicked in the teeth by Brexit promises.
If there is one group of producers that deserve to be kicked in the teeth, it's our subsidy-gobbling, low productivity farmers. We should go for free trade in food, and ignore their special pleading..
No, we should be supporting our farmers and British food properly as the French and Americans back their farmers
But “we” are not though. This Tory governments tariff shredding FTAs are destroying farming incomes, and whole niche UK industries and companies, where jobs and livelihoods are all interlinked reliant on each other.
Daft thing for you to post considering this hopelessly confused and incompetent government doing the very opposite.
The only FTAs of any significance we have now we didn't in the EU are with Australia and New Zealand and there are plenty of opportunities for British farmers to expand exports there too
Wrong.
fears for firms at risk from cheap imports, that worker protections and economic security are being neglected, that wider opportunities to improve trade performance are being missed, the ‘net zero’ climate promise undermined, also, that the government is weakening its own hand in negotiations.
In other words Business and Trade under this Tory government is utter shambles
I come from farming family. Farming industry knows if you cut tarrifs you are actually cutting farming incomes, is the truth.
in this report there’s a billion dollar UK industry at stake, and levelling up jobs to protect, and that’s the main purpose for applying tariffs in the first place isn’t it - protect our industries and our workers and their incomes? And are pesticides limits and control not important too?
You tried to portray this government as standing up for Britain, BJ4BW etc - the mounting evidence and the truth is very opposite to what you spun.
Why do you think you are behind and heading for a bloodbath? It’s the betrayal.
Well we have technically increased barriers for EU farm products to the UK, the only tariff barriers removed on farming imports post Brexit the EU hasn't already removed are from Australia and NZ as mentioned
The betrayal of UK being lined up by Tory politicians in secret trade deals in the previous post completely passed you by?
Okay. We’ll move on - haven’t nearly finished with you yet. And on that betrayal fact in posts above, yet more betrayal, upon betrayal - I don’t know what came over you yesterday, early finish, tie off, drinking in the sun - you resurrected an old poll, changed it from a 1% Tory lead to a big one, and tried to tie it into to Sunak’s successful nimby policy versus Starmer’s unpopular sending bulldozers into the green belt. Did you not?
Sunak’s short termist self serving “we are now the party defending privilege, go get into habit of voting for another party if aspiration is what you need” nimby policies are utter disaster for the Tory party - that’s why every Tory MP wants to stand on Starmer’s house building policy. That’s unspun truth isn’t it?
The original Horse was Leon too, Not much doubt about it in hindsight.
How you manage to find time to earn a living Leon whilst playing games with so many PB avatars, I can only put down to you having discovered the optimum combination of drugs.
“The atomic bomb is necessary to defend western values”
Enoch Powell:
“No! We do not fight for values, I would fight for this country, even if we had a communist government”
Thatcher:
“Nonsense, Enoch, If I send British Troops abroad, it will be to defend our values”
Powell:
“No, Prime minister, values exist in a transcendental realm, beyond space and time, they can be neither fought for, nor destroyed”
Enoch’s point was: you ultimately fight for your land and your people, not some ideology, or ephemeral values.
Uncomfortably, I find myself muttering “Enoch woz right” …..!
Who can really believe that? Enoch was a fucking idiot. Of course you fight for values. If this country got a fascist government I'd cheerfully pick up a gun and fight* it. If this country got attacked by a fascist enemy, I'd pick up a gun and fight* for it.
Who here would really fight for fascism if that fascism was under the union flag?
*I'm not saying I'd be any good, but fuck me I'd try.
Just can't stand that. The whole defeat loaded onto one player. Ditch the penalty shootout please. It's indefensible.
And replace it with what?
Something akin to boxing. If a team wins on goals scored that's it. They win the match. That's equivalent to the knockout or stoppage. If it's equal on that metric (ie a draw after extra time) you get a 'decision'. Like the points verdict on a boxing match that goes the distance. A panel of (expert and independent) judges score the game based on things such as possession, chances created, style, sportsmanship. So the win goes to the better team on the day. The team who played best. Who deserved to win. It'd still have plenty of suspense if the match has been close. That excruciating wait for the judge's scores to be announced. Fantastic. But also fair and above all humane.
If it involves a judge, it isn't a sport, it's a performance.
Boxing not a sport? Ali, Frazier, Foreman, the Thrilla in Manilla? Fury v Joshua at Wembley if it happens. Not sport? C'mon.
Boxing can be a sport as long as they win/lose when one boxer cannot continue.
Any ‘sport’ decided by interpretation is not a sport. Removes at a stroke from the olympics ; Gymnastics, diving, all martial arts, boxing, dressage…
Sport should have a definitive objective achieved. Goal scored, run scored, etc.
Don't care about honours. If Liz Truss wants to hand out shiny trinkets, let her.
If it's putting people in the HoL, it matters to all of us. I mean, fine if you really don't care, but it certainly affects you more than just her doling out some title.
Rishi is a traitor and I question his Britishness.
Rishi Sunak will ask stores to cap basic food prices
No 10 in discussions with supermarkets over French-style approach to cost of living crisis
Downing Street is drawing up plans for retailers to introduce price caps on basic food items such as bread and milk to help tackle the rising cost of living, The Telegraph can disclose.
Rishi Sunak’s aides have started work on a deal with supermarkets akin to an agreement in France in which the country’s major retailers charge the “lowest possible amount” for some essential food products.
The move would amount to the biggest attempt to manage supermarket prices since controls established by Edward Heath in 1973. However, No 10 insists that any action by retailers would be voluntary.
It comes amid growing concern in government about sustained pressure on household finances from inflation and the rising cost of borrowing.
A Treasury source said: “Food inflation is much more resilient and difficult to get rid of than we anticipated.”
How does that work? Lets take milk as an example. Only a few companies sully milk in bulk, companies like Arla. They buy direct from the farmer. Girl cows need to be fed, and the cost of feed is £lots.
"Now look here, can't you keep these beastly prices in check" is great as crayon politics. But it isn't real world. I'm in my 3rd decade in the food industry and I have never seen a market like this.
I'm also seeing behaviours that boggle the mind - every day is school day. I secured a Cost Price Increase with a major UK customer a few weeks back. He didn't even ask how much or why. Simply "send me an email". Not only did he accept it and implement it immediately, he back dated it for a couple of purchase orders already raised.
I don't understand this response. Can you reword it please?
Presumably the customer knew if he didn't pay whatever price he was quoted, he wouldn't get any other supply, so didn't challenge it.
Rishi is a traitor and I question his Britishness.
Rishi Sunak will ask stores to cap basic food prices
No 10 in discussions with supermarkets over French-style approach to cost of living crisis
Downing Street is drawing up plans for retailers to introduce price caps on basic food items such as bread and milk to help tackle the rising cost of living, The Telegraph can disclose.
Rishi Sunak’s aides have started work on a deal with supermarkets akin to an agreement in France in which the country’s major retailers charge the “lowest possible amount” for some essential food products.
The move would amount to the biggest attempt to manage supermarket prices since controls established by Edward Heath in 1973. However, No 10 insists that any action by retailers would be voluntary.
It comes amid growing concern in government about sustained pressure on household finances from inflation and the rising cost of borrowing.
A Treasury source said: “Food inflation is much more resilient and difficult to get rid of than we anticipated.”
What the actual fuck type of Tory is he even PRETENDING to be? The supermarkets do a far better job of keeping down food prices than your shit Government would ever do. Leave food the FUCK ALONE. Ministry of Bananas is meant to be a joke ffs.
Will someone please get rid (politically) of this utter clown and release him to this glittering Silicone Valley career he believes is ahead of him please.
I have actually been going thru the NatCon YouTube's. Some are unexpectedly good (JRM, Goodwin) some are not. But they were mostly on culture issues, and only a few (JRM!) seemed to have an underlying theory of how an economy works. Which makes me think: have the Conservatives, being now dominated by rich citizens of nowhere and consumed with the Culture War, simply forgotten how to run an economy? I'm beginning to think that they just don't know how to do it.
There's a fairly good grasp of economics within the Tory Party I think, though there's definitely an ideological split between the Trussites (let financial services rip, more immigration) and the Red wallers (less immigration, more levelling up). The issue is the upper echelons have been totally captured by the nutso Davos agenda, which frankly if you saw a Bond villain try to implement, you'd be cheering when Bond threw a toaster in his bath. It's that bad. Remember even Jeremy Hunt actually thinks Corporation Tax should be at 15%. But in office he's whacked it up to 25%.
Rishi is a traitor and I question his Britishness.
Rishi Sunak will ask stores to cap basic food prices
No 10 in discussions with supermarkets over French-style approach to cost of living crisis
Downing Street is drawing up plans for retailers to introduce price caps on basic food items such as bread and milk to help tackle the rising cost of living, The Telegraph can disclose.
Rishi Sunak’s aides have started work on a deal with supermarkets akin to an agreement in France in which the country’s major retailers charge the “lowest possible amount” for some essential food products.
The move would amount to the biggest attempt to manage supermarket prices since controls established by Edward Heath in 1973. However, No 10 insists that any action by retailers would be voluntary.
It comes amid growing concern in government about sustained pressure on household finances from inflation and the rising cost of borrowing.
A Treasury source said: “Food inflation is much more resilient and difficult to get rid of than we anticipated.”
What the actual fuck type of Tory is he even PRETENDING to be? The supermarkets do a far better job of keeping down food prices than your shit Government would ever do. Leave food the FUCK ALONE. Ministry of Bananas is meant to be a joke ffs.
Will someone please get rid (politically) of this utter clown and release him to this glittering Silicone Valley career he believes is ahead of him please.
I have actually been going thru the NatCon YouTube's. Some are unexpectedly good (JRM, Goodwin) some are not. But they were mostly on culture issues, and only a few (JRM!) seemed to have an underlying theory of how an economy works. Which makes me think: have the Conservatives, being now dominated by rich citizens of nowhere and consumed with the Culture War, simply forgotten how to run an economy? I'm beginning to think that they just don't know how to do it.
They've certainly be damaged by Boris Johnson's long knife. Purges have a chilling effect and I don't think the sensible part of the party has quite recovered its mojo. This is going to sound more provocative than I intend but fuck it here it is anyway. They need a Keir Starmer figure.
What Is going to stop Sunak suffering the same fate as Major?
SKS is not Tony Blair.
But set against that, Rishi is a much less effective retail politician than John Major. Even in '97, by which time he was clearly broken, you could see the remains of the charisma that triumphed in '92. Major was a has been. In terms of political star quality, Sunak looks more like a never was.
One of the interesting data points we'll get next year is where the balance between oppositions wining and governments losing lies. My hunch is that the second is much more important.
Lab majority is value at the current 1.85 imo.
No it isn’t.
Well what I predict is as follows - that price never again sees evens, by year end is 1.6, by the time the campaign starts is 1.33, and on the eve of the vote is 1.2.
What Is going to stop Sunak suffering the same fate as Major?
SKS is not Tony Blair.
But set against that, Rishi is a much less effective retail politician than John Major. Even in '97, by which time he was clearly broken, you could see the remains of the charisma that triumphed in '92. Major was a has been. In terms of political star quality, Sunak looks more like a never was.
One of the interesting data points we'll get next year is where the balance between oppositions wining and governments losing lies. My hunch is that the second is much more important.
Lab majority is value at the current 1.85 imo.
No it isn’t.
Clearly opinions differ. I think it it’s value as I think, sadly, that Heathener is correct. Why do I say sadly? Because I am not inspired the labour offering beyond it being their turn, and being damn sure the country needs the Tories out of power to have a think about what they have done and should be in the future.
The original Horse was Leon too, Not much doubt about it in hindsight.
How you manage to find time to earn a living Leon whilst playing games with so many PB avatars, I can only put down to you having discovered the optimum combination of drugs.
No, I'm Leon!
No, not Spartacus, it’s that Thing film set in Antarctica, where they all eye each other nervously over who’s the fake person.
Just can't stand that. The whole defeat loaded onto one player. Ditch the penalty shootout please. It's indefensible.
And replace it with what?
Something akin to boxing. If a team wins on goals scored that's it. They win the match. That's equivalent to the knockout or stoppage. If it's equal on that metric (ie a draw after extra time) you get a 'decision'. Like the points verdict on a boxing match that goes the distance. A panel of (expert and independent) judges score the game based on things such as possession, chances created, style, sportsmanship. So the win goes to the better team on the day. The team who played best. Who deserved to win. It'd still have plenty of suspense if the match has been close. That excruciating wait for the judge's scores to be announced. Fantastic. But also fair and above all humane.
If it involves a judge, it isn't a sport, it's a performance.
Boxing not a sport? Ali, Frazier, Foreman, the Thrilla in Manilla? Fury v Joshua at Wembley if it happens. Not sport? C'mon.
Boxing can be a sport as long as they win/lose when one boxer cannot continue.
Any ‘sport’ decided by interpretation is not a sport. Removes at a stroke from the olympics ; Gymnastics, diving, all martial arts, boxing, dressage…
Sport should have a definitive objective achieved. Goal scored, run scored, etc.
I understand your point . That way there’s also never controversy about dodgy judging . Things like gymnastics and diving have improved in recent years though and are very much loved by many who watch the Olympics .
Rishi is a traitor and I question his Britishness.
Rishi Sunak will ask stores to cap basic food prices
No 10 in discussions with supermarkets over French-style approach to cost of living crisis
Downing Street is drawing up plans for retailers to introduce price caps on basic food items such as bread and milk to help tackle the rising cost of living, The Telegraph can disclose.
Rishi Sunak’s aides have started work on a deal with supermarkets akin to an agreement in France in which the country’s major retailers charge the “lowest possible amount” for some essential food products.
The move would amount to the biggest attempt to manage supermarket prices since controls established by Edward Heath in 1973. However, No 10 insists that any action by retailers would be voluntary.
It comes amid growing concern in government about sustained pressure on household finances from inflation and the rising cost of borrowing.
A Treasury source said: “Food inflation is much more resilient and difficult to get rid of than we anticipated.”
What the actual fuck type of Tory is he even PRETENDING to be? The supermarkets do a far better job of keeping down food prices than your shit Government would ever do. Leave food the FUCK ALONE. Ministry of Bananas is meant to be a joke ffs.
Will someone please get rid (politically) of this utter clown and release him to this glittering Silicone Valley career he believes is ahead of him please.
I have actually been going thru the NatCon YouTube's. Some are unexpectedly good (JRM, Goodwin) some are not. But they were mostly on culture issues, and only a few (JRM!) seemed to have an underlying theory of how an economy works. Which makes me think: have the Conservatives, being now dominated by rich citizens of nowhere and consumed with the Culture War, simply forgotten how to run an economy? I'm beginning to think that they just don't know how to do it.
There's a fairly good grasp of economics within the Tory Party I think, though there's definitely an ideological split between the Trussites (let financial services rip, more immigration) and the Red wallers (less immigration, more levelling up). The issue is the upper echelons have been totally captured by the nutso Davos agenda, which frankly if you saw a Bond villain try to implement, you'd be cheering when Bond threw a toaster in his bath. It's that bad. Remember even Jeremy Hunt actually thinks Corporation Tax should be at 15%. But in office he's whacked it up to 25%.
By the way, I was also quietly impressed with Goodwin.
Another Brexit vision sadly turns out to be a mirage:
3 December 2020:
The government has unveiled plans to ban the export of live animals for slaughter and fattening.
The proposals form part of an eight-week consultation, launched by Defra secretary George Eustice in England and Wales on Thursday (3 December), seeking views on how to better protect animal welfare during transport.
“We are committed to improving the welfare of animals at all stages of life. Today marks a major step forward in delivering on our manifesto commitment to end live exports for slaughter,” said Mr Eustice.
“Now that we have left the EU, we have an opportunity to end this unnecessary practice. We want to ensure that animals are spared stress prior to slaughter.”
Rishi Sunak’s government has ditched a bill that would effectively have banned the export of live farmed animals for fattening and slaughter.
In a statement to the House of Commons on Thursday 25 May, Defra farming minister Mark Spencer confirmed the government was dropping the Kept Animals Bill.
Mr Spencer told MPs that while animal welfare “has been a key priority of the government”, the legislation “risked being extended far beyond the original commitments in the manifesto”.
But he insisted the government would be “taking forward measures in the Kept Animals Bill individually during the remainder of this parliament”.
The Conservative Animal Welfare Foundation said it was disappointed by the government’s decision to drop the bill.
I am really puzzled by this. I am guessing the CS killed this as they seem to be running the show these days. Presumably they couldn't bear a positive Brexit story.
More likely a sop to the farmers, kicked in the teeth by Brexit promises.
If there is one group of producers that deserve to be kicked in the teeth, it's our subsidy-gobbling, low productivity farmers. We should go for free trade in food, and ignore their special pleading..
No, we should be supporting our farmers and British food properly as the French and Americans back their farmers
But “we” are not though. This Tory governments tariff shredding FTAs are destroying farming incomes, and whole niche UK industries and companies, where jobs and livelihoods are all interlinked reliant on each other.
Daft thing for you to post considering this hopelessly confused and incompetent government doing the very opposite.
The only FTAs of any significance we have now we didn't in the EU are with Australia and New Zealand and there are plenty of opportunities for British farmers to expand exports there too
Wrong.
fears for firms at risk from cheap imports, that worker protections and economic security are being neglected, that wider opportunities to improve trade performance are being missed, the ‘net zero’ climate promise undermined, also, that the government is weakening its own hand in negotiations.
In other words Business and Trade under this Tory government is utter shambles
I come from farming family. Farming industry knows if you cut tarrifs you are actually cutting farming incomes, is the truth.
in this report there’s a billion dollar UK industry at stake, and levelling up jobs to protect, and that’s the main purpose for applying tariffs in the first place isn’t it - protect our industries and our workers and their incomes? And are pesticides limits and control not important too?
You tried to portray this government as standing up for Britain, BJ4BW etc - the mounting evidence and the truth is very opposite to what you spun.
Why do you think you are behind and heading for a bloodbath? It’s the betrayal.
Well we have technically increased barriers for EU farm products to the UK, the only tariff barriers removed on farming imports post Brexit the EU hasn't already removed are from Australia and NZ as mentioned
The betrayal of UK being lined up by Tory politicians in secret trade deals in the previous post completely passed you by?
Okay. We’ll move on - haven’t nearly finished with you yet. And on that betrayal fact in posts above, yet more betrayal, upon betrayal - I don’t know what came over you yesterday, early finish, tie off, drinking in the sun - you resurrected an old poll, changed it from a 1% Tory lead to a big one, and tried to tie it into to Sunak’s successful nimby policy versus Starmer’s unpopular sending bulldozers into the green belt. Did you not?
Sunak’s short termist self serving “we are now the party defending privilege, go get into habit of voting for another party if aspiration is what you need” nimby policies are utter disaster for the Tory party - that’s why every Tory MP wants to stand on Starmer’s house building policy. That’s unspun truth isn’t it?
We now have more trade barriers on farming products imported to the UK than before Brexit as the EU is a far bigger exporter to the UK than Australia and NZ as you know.
As you also well know the Redfield bluewall poll last week is the ONLY bluewall poll to have had the Tories ahead since Sunak became PM and coincidentally comes after Starmer's proposals to build on the greenbelt
The original Horse was Leon too, Not much doubt about it in hindsight.
How you manage to find time to earn a living Leon whilst playing games with so many PB avatars, I can only put down to you having discovered the optimum combination of drugs.
Another Brexit vision sadly turns out to be a mirage:
3 December 2020:
The government has unveiled plans to ban the export of live animals for slaughter and fattening.
The proposals form part of an eight-week consultation, launched by Defra secretary George Eustice in England and Wales on Thursday (3 December), seeking views on how to better protect animal welfare during transport.
“We are committed to improving the welfare of animals at all stages of life. Today marks a major step forward in delivering on our manifesto commitment to end live exports for slaughter,” said Mr Eustice.
“Now that we have left the EU, we have an opportunity to end this unnecessary practice. We want to ensure that animals are spared stress prior to slaughter.”
Rishi Sunak’s government has ditched a bill that would effectively have banned the export of live farmed animals for fattening and slaughter.
In a statement to the House of Commons on Thursday 25 May, Defra farming minister Mark Spencer confirmed the government was dropping the Kept Animals Bill.
Mr Spencer told MPs that while animal welfare “has been a key priority of the government”, the legislation “risked being extended far beyond the original commitments in the manifesto”.
But he insisted the government would be “taking forward measures in the Kept Animals Bill individually during the remainder of this parliament”.
The Conservative Animal Welfare Foundation said it was disappointed by the government’s decision to drop the bill.
I am really puzzled by this. I am guessing the CS killed this as they seem to be running the show these days. Presumably they couldn't bear a positive Brexit story.
More likely a sop to the farmers, kicked in the teeth by Brexit promises.
If there is one group of producers that deserve to be kicked in the teeth, it's our subsidy-gobbling, low productivity farmers. We should go for free trade in food, and ignore their special pleading..
No, we should be supporting our farmers and British food properly as the French and Americans back their farmers
But “we” are not though. This Tory governments tariff shredding FTAs are destroying farming incomes, and whole niche UK industries and companies, where jobs and livelihoods are all interlinked reliant on each other.
Daft thing for you to post considering this hopelessly confused and incompetent government doing the very opposite.
The only FTAs of any significance we have now we didn't in the EU are with Australia and New Zealand and there are plenty of opportunities for British farmers to expand exports there too
Wrong.
fears for firms at risk from cheap imports, that worker protections and economic security are being neglected, that wider opportunities to improve trade performance are being missed, the ‘net zero’ climate promise undermined, also, that the government is weakening its own hand in negotiations.
In other words Business and Trade under this Tory government is utter shambles
I come from farming family. Farming industry knows if you cut tarrifs you are actually cutting farming incomes, is the truth.
in this report there’s a billion dollar UK industry at stake, and levelling up jobs to protect, and that’s the main purpose for applying tariffs in the first place isn’t it - protect our industries and our workers and their incomes? And are pesticides limits and control not important too?
You tried to portray this government as standing up for Britain, BJ4BW etc - the mounting evidence and the truth is very opposite to what you spun.
Why do you think you are behind and heading for a bloodbath? It’s the betrayal.
Well we have technically increased barriers for EU farm products to the UK, the only tariff barriers removed on farming imports post Brexit the EU hasn't already removed are from Australia and NZ as mentioned
The betrayal of UK being lined up by Tory politicians in secret trade deals in the previous post completely passed you by?
Okay. We’ll move on - haven’t nearly finished with you yet. And on that betrayal fact in posts above, yet more betrayal, upon betrayal - I don’t know what came over you yesterday, early finish, tie off, drinking in the sun - you resurrected an old poll, changed it from a 1% Tory lead to a big one, and tried to tie it into to Sunak’s successful nimby policy versus Starmer’s unpopular sending bulldozers into the green belt. Did you not?
Sunak’s short termist self serving “we are now the party defending privilege, go get into habit of voting for another party if aspiration is what you need” nimby policies are utter disaster for the Tory party - that’s why every Tory MP wants to stand on Starmer’s house building policy. That’s unspun truth isn’t it?
We now have more trade barriers on farming products imported to the UK than before Brexit as the EU is a far bigger exporter to the UK than Australia and NZ as you know.
As you also well know the Redfield bluewall poll last week is the ONLY bluewall poll to have had the Tories ahead since Sunak became PM and coincidentally comes after Starmer's proposals to build on the greenbelt
You have supported a closet socialist who wants to control the price of milk. You should be deeply ashamed.
“The atomic bomb is necessary to defend western values”
Enoch Powell:
“No! We do not fight for values, I would fight for this country, even if we had a communist government”
Thatcher:
“Nonsense, Enoch, If I send British Troops abroad, it will be to defend our values”
Powell:
“No, Prime minister, values exist in a transcendental realm, beyond space and time, they can be neither fought for, nor destroyed”
Enoch’s point was: you ultimately fight for your land and your people, not some ideology, or ephemeral values.
Uncomfortably, I find myself muttering “Enoch woz right” …..!
Who can really believe that? Enoch was a fucking idiot. Of course you fight for values. If this country got a fascist government I'd cheerfully pick up a gun and fight* it. If this country got attacked by a fascist enemy, I'd pick up a gun and fight* for it.
Who here would really fight for fascism if that fascism was under the union flag?
*I'm not saying I'd be any good, but fuck me I'd try.
Some people think we've got one now. Would you support an armed insurrection?
“The atomic bomb is necessary to defend western values”
Enoch Powell:
“No! We do not fight for values, I would fight for this country, even if we had a communist government”
Thatcher:
“Nonsense, Enoch, If I send British Troops abroad, it will be to defend our values”
Powell:
“No, Prime minister, values exist in a transcendental realm, beyond space and time, they can be neither fought for, nor destroyed”
Enoch’s point was: you ultimately fight for your land and your people, not some ideology, or ephemeral values.
Uncomfortably, I find myself muttering “Enoch woz right” …..!
Who can really believe that? Enoch was a fucking idiot. Of course you fight for values. If this country got a fascist government I'd cheerfully pick up a gun and fight* it. If this country got attacked by a fascist enemy, I'd pick up a gun and fight* for it.
Who here would really fight for fascism if that fascism was under the union flag?
*I'm not saying I'd be any good, but fuck me I'd try.
Some people think we've got one now. Would you support an armed insurrection?
Not against this government, because this government is clearly and obviously not fascist.
Another Brexit vision sadly turns out to be a mirage:
3 December 2020:
The government has unveiled plans to ban the export of live animals for slaughter and fattening.
The proposals form part of an eight-week consultation, launched by Defra secretary George Eustice in England and Wales on Thursday (3 December), seeking views on how to better protect animal welfare during transport.
“We are committed to improving the welfare of animals at all stages of life. Today marks a major step forward in delivering on our manifesto commitment to end live exports for slaughter,” said Mr Eustice.
“Now that we have left the EU, we have an opportunity to end this unnecessary practice. We want to ensure that animals are spared stress prior to slaughter.”
Rishi Sunak’s government has ditched a bill that would effectively have banned the export of live farmed animals for fattening and slaughter.
In a statement to the House of Commons on Thursday 25 May, Defra farming minister Mark Spencer confirmed the government was dropping the Kept Animals Bill.
Mr Spencer told MPs that while animal welfare “has been a key priority of the government”, the legislation “risked being extended far beyond the original commitments in the manifesto”.
But he insisted the government would be “taking forward measures in the Kept Animals Bill individually during the remainder of this parliament”.
The Conservative Animal Welfare Foundation said it was disappointed by the government’s decision to drop the bill.
I am really puzzled by this. I am guessing the CS killed this as they seem to be running the show these days. Presumably they couldn't bear a positive Brexit story.
More likely a sop to the farmers, kicked in the teeth by Brexit promises.
If there is one group of producers that deserve to be kicked in the teeth, it's our subsidy-gobbling, low productivity farmers. We should go for free trade in food, and ignore their special pleading..
No, we should be supporting our farmers and British food properly as the French and Americans back their farmers
But “we” are not though. This Tory governments tariff shredding FTAs are destroying farming incomes, and whole niche UK industries and companies, where jobs and livelihoods are all interlinked reliant on each other.
Daft thing for you to post considering this hopelessly confused and incompetent government doing the very opposite.
The only FTAs of any significance we have now we didn't in the EU are with Australia and New Zealand and there are plenty of opportunities for British farmers to expand exports there too
Wrong.
fears for firms at risk from cheap imports, that worker protections and economic security are being neglected, that wider opportunities to improve trade performance are being missed, the ‘net zero’ climate promise undermined, also, that the government is weakening its own hand in negotiations.
In other words Business and Trade under this Tory government is utter shambles
I come from farming family. Farming industry knows if you cut tarrifs you are actually cutting farming incomes, is the truth.
in this report there’s a billion dollar UK industry at stake, and levelling up jobs to protect, and that’s the main purpose for applying tariffs in the first place isn’t it - protect our industries and our workers and their incomes? And are pesticides limits and control not important too?
You tried to portray this government as standing up for Britain, BJ4BW etc - the mounting evidence and the truth is very opposite to what you spun.
Why do you think you are behind and heading for a bloodbath? It’s the betrayal.
Well we have technically increased barriers for EU farm products to the UK, the only tariff barriers removed on farming imports post Brexit the EU hasn't already removed are from Australia and NZ as mentioned
The betrayal of UK being lined up by Tory politicians in secret trade deals in the previous post completely passed you by?
Okay. We’ll move on - haven’t nearly finished with you yet. And on that betrayal fact in posts above, yet more betrayal, upon betrayal - I don’t know what came over you yesterday, early finish, tie off, drinking in the sun - you resurrected an old poll, changed it from a 1% Tory lead to a big one, and tried to tie it into to Sunak’s successful nimby policy versus Starmer’s unpopular sending bulldozers into the green belt. Did you not?
Sunak’s short termist self serving “we are now the party defending privilege, go get into habit of voting for another party if aspiration is what you need” nimby policies are utter disaster for the Tory party - that’s why every Tory MP wants to stand on Starmer’s house building policy. That’s unspun truth isn’t it?
We now have more trade barriers on farming products imported to the UK than before Brexit as the EU is a far bigger exporter to the UK than Australia and NZ as you know.
As you also well know the Redfield bluewall poll last week is the ONLY bluewall poll to have had the Tories ahead since Sunak became PM and coincidentally comes after Starmer's proposals to build on the greenbelt
You have supported a closet socialist who wants to control the price of milk. You should be deeply ashamed.
Well if that helps a pensioner or family on a low income at the moment due to the cost of living good on him.
I am a conservative, not a laissez-faire libertarian, sometimes conservatives do intervene in the economy when required. That does not make them socialist, it seems you and Truss don't understand the difference
Just can't stand that. The whole defeat loaded onto one player. Ditch the penalty shootout please. It's indefensible.
And replace it with what?
Something akin to boxing. If a team wins on goals scored that's it. They win the match. That's equivalent to the knockout or stoppage. If it's equal on that metric (ie a draw after extra time) you get a 'decision'. Like the points verdict on a boxing match that goes the distance. A panel of (expert and independent) judges score the game based on things such as possession, chances created, style, sportsmanship. So the win goes to the better team on the day. The team who played best. Who deserved to win. It'd still have plenty of suspense if the match has been close. That excruciating wait for the judge's scores to be announced. Fantastic. But also fair and above all humane.
If it involves a judge, it isn't a sport, it's a performance.
Boxing not a sport? Ali, Frazier, Foreman, the Thrilla in Manilla? Fury v Joshua at Wembley if it happens. Not sport? C'mon.
Boxing can be a sport as long as they win/lose when one boxer cannot continue.
Any ‘sport’ decided by interpretation is not a sport. Removes at a stroke from the olympics ; Gymnastics, diving, all martial arts, boxing, dressage…
Sport should have a definitive objective achieved. Goal scored, run scored, etc.
But some of the greatest bouts in history have been decided on points. By this criteria they weren't sporting events but me and my mum playing scrabble is. Ludicrous.
Rishi is a traitor and I question his Britishness.
Rishi Sunak will ask stores to cap basic food prices
No 10 in discussions with supermarkets over French-style approach to cost of living crisis
Downing Street is drawing up plans for retailers to introduce price caps on basic food items such as bread and milk to help tackle the rising cost of living, The Telegraph can disclose.
Rishi Sunak’s aides have started work on a deal with supermarkets akin to an agreement in France in which the country’s major retailers charge the “lowest possible amount” for some essential food products.
The move would amount to the biggest attempt to manage supermarket prices since controls established by Edward Heath in 1973. However, No 10 insists that any action by retailers would be voluntary.
It comes amid growing concern in government about sustained pressure on household finances from inflation and the rising cost of borrowing.
A Treasury source said: “Food inflation is much more resilient and difficult to get rid of than we anticipated.”
This looks like a desperate measure by Sunak to look like he gives a fig about people’s struggles. It’s yet another chase for a good headline . The only thing the government is concerned about is its election chances !
Without in anyway condoning Sunak's utter idiocy, isn't that the only thing all Governments care about these days? They try and justify it by saying that if you are not in power you can't implement your policies so staying in power is the most important thing. But of course when your only policy is to stay in power it becomes a completely pointless exercise as far as governance is concerned.
Rishi is a traitor and I question his Britishness.
Rishi Sunak will ask stores to cap basic food prices
No 10 in discussions with supermarkets over French-style approach to cost of living crisis
Downing Street is drawing up plans for retailers to introduce price caps on basic food items such as bread and milk to help tackle the rising cost of living, The Telegraph can disclose.
Rishi Sunak’s aides have started work on a deal with supermarkets akin to an agreement in France in which the country’s major retailers charge the “lowest possible amount” for some essential food products.
The move would amount to the biggest attempt to manage supermarket prices since controls established by Edward Heath in 1973. However, No 10 insists that any action by retailers would be voluntary.
It comes amid growing concern in government about sustained pressure on household finances from inflation and the rising cost of borrowing.
A Treasury source said: “Food inflation is much more resilient and difficult to get rid of than we anticipated.”
What the actual fuck type of Tory is he even PRETENDING to be? The supermarkets do a far better job of keeping down food prices than your shit Government would ever do. Leave food the FUCK ALONE. Ministry of Bananas is meant to be a joke ffs.
Will someone please get rid (politically) of this utter clown and release him to this glittering Silicone Valley career he believes is ahead of him please.
I have actually been going thru the NatCon YouTube's. Some are unexpectedly good (JRM, Goodwin) some are not. But they were mostly on culture issues, and only a few (JRM!) seemed to have an underlying theory of how an economy works. Which makes me think: have the Conservatives, being now dominated by rich citizens of nowhere and consumed with the Culture War, simply forgotten how to run an economy? I'm beginning to think that they just don't know how to do it.
There's a fairly good grasp of economics within the Tory Party I think, though there's definitely an ideological split between the Trussites (let financial services rip, more immigration) and the Red wallers (less immigration, more levelling up). The issue is the upper echelons have been totally captured by the nutso Davos agenda, which frankly if you saw a Bond villain try to implement, you'd be cheering when Bond threw a toaster in his bath. It's that bad. Remember even Jeremy Hunt actually thinks Corporation Tax should be at 15%. But in office he's whacked it up to 25%.
By the way, I was also quietly impressed with Goodwin.
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There are plenty of rational reasons to think we're not mindlessly heading down a path signposted "1997 revisited". But every month that the polls pootle along like this makes the underlying question louder.
What Is going to stop Sunak suffering the same fate as Major?
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Rishi Sunak will ask stores to cap basic food prices
No 10 in discussions with supermarkets over French-style approach to cost of living crisis
Downing Street is drawing up plans for retailers to introduce price caps on basic food items such as bread and milk to help tackle the rising cost of living, The Telegraph can disclose.
Rishi Sunak’s aides have started work on a deal with supermarkets akin to an agreement in France in which the country’s major retailers charge the “lowest possible amount” for some essential food products.
The move would amount to the biggest attempt to manage supermarket prices since controls established by Edward Heath in 1973. However, No 10 insists that any action by retailers would be voluntary.
It comes amid growing concern in government about sustained pressure on household finances from inflation and the rising cost of borrowing.
A Treasury source said: “Food inflation is much more resilient and difficult to get rid of than we anticipated.”
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2023/05/27/rishi-sunak-asks-stores-to-cap-basic-food-prices/
Not only is this French, this is socialism. UGH.
One of the interesting data points we'll get next year is where the balance between oppositions wining and governments losing lies. My hunch is that the second is much more important.
How you manage to find time to earn a living Leon whilst playing games with so many PB avatars, I can only put down to you having discovered the optimum combination of drugs.
I've often wondered how you could conduct Operation Overlord in a social media age.
Probably with a lot of disinformation.
"Now look here, can't you keep these beastly prices in check" is great as crayon politics. But it isn't real world. I'm in my 3rd decade in the food industry and I have never seen a market like this.
I'm also seeing behaviours that boggle the mind - every day is school day. I secured a Cost Price Increase with a major UK customer a few weeks back. He didn't even ask how much or why. Simply "send me an email". Not only did he accept it and implement it immediately, he back dated it for a couple of purchase orders already raised.
Unfortunately in those same areas there was a NIMBY revolt on May 4th to the LDs, Independents and Greens and the Tories lost control of most councils they controlled in the Home Counties.
Starmer then proposed to pick up the mantle Gove and new NOC councils in the South are rowing back from by building on the greenbelt if Labour gets elected, only to see the Tories take the lead in bluewall seats in the latest Redfield poll for the first time under Sunak as PM.
Building more houses is needed, especially in the expensive South, however any party proposing to do so swiftly loses popularity
I'm sure the likes of Clayton, Dubilier, & Rice, and the Issa Brothers will love it.
I was merely trying to think of other ways one could decide the result of a football match, I'm the event that you didn't want penalties at the end.
Do you want a strong Government which has clear authority for the future to take decisions which will be needed? Do you want Parliament and the elected Government to continue to fight strenuously against inflation? Or do you want them to abandon the struggle against rising prices under pressure from one particularly powerful group of workers...
I want a head of state that will stand up to unlawful acts, that's why we need a elected head of state.
Daft thing for you to post considering this hopelessly confused and incompetent government doing the very opposite.
Will someone please get rid (politically) of this utter clown and release him to this glittering Silicone Valley career he believes is ahead of him please.
fears for firms at risk from cheap imports, that worker protections and economic security are being neglected, that wider opportunities to improve trade performance are being missed, the ‘net zero’ climate promise undermined, also, that the government is weakening its own hand in negotiations.
https://www.politicshome.com/thehouse/article/trade-secret-uks-aims-pursues-new-deals
In other words Business and Trade under this Tory government is utter shambles
I come from farming family. Farming industry knows if you cut tarrifs you are actually cutting farming incomes, is the truth.
in this report there’s a billion dollar UK industry at stake, and levelling up jobs to protect, and that’s the main purpose for applying tariffs in the first place isn’t it - protect our industries and our workers and their incomes? And are pesticides limits and control not important too?
You tried to portray this government as standing up for Britain, BJ4BW etc - the mounting evidence and the truth is very opposite to what you spun.
Why do you think you are behind and heading for a bloodbath? It’s the betrayal.
Really excellent deep dive into Tory party history.
Alternative podcast sources at:
https://unherd.com/these-times-with-tom-mctague-and-helen-thompson/
(It’s the “national conservatism” one)
fascinating excerpt at 37mins(ish)
Thatcher:
“The atomic bomb is necessary to defend western values”
Enoch Powell:
“No! We do not fight for values, I would fight for this country, even if we had a communist government”
Thatcher:
“Nonsense, Enoch, If I send British Troops abroad, it will be to defend our values”
Powell:
“No, Prime minister, values exist in a transcendental realm, beyond space and time, they can be neither fought for, nor destroyed”
Enoch’s point was: you ultimately fight for your land and your people, not some ideology, or ephemeral values.
Uncomfortably, I find myself muttering “Enoch woz right” …..!
This is in no way a constitutional crisis unless Prince Charles is a dick about it.
No, I'm Leon!
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But it doesn't really matter. The point is to have some alternative winner to make a draw equal to a loss: that way draws will be highly unlikely. In the cases you mention, the first answer could be one of the other losers from the first round, and the second could be the drawing of lots. It's still no more arbitrary than penalties. And anyway, as I understand football fans, they like nothing better than a last minute win they didn't deserve. Having the chance to win from, metaphorically, beyond the grave would surely be very popular.
Okay. We’ll move on - haven’t nearly finished with you yet. And on that betrayal fact in posts above, yet more betrayal, upon betrayal - I don’t know what came over you yesterday, early finish, tie off, drinking in the sun - you resurrected an old poll, changed it from a 1% Tory lead to a big one, and tried to tie it into to Sunak’s successful nimby policy versus Starmer’s unpopular sending bulldozers into the green belt. Did you not?
Sunak’s short termist self serving “we are now the party defending privilege, go get into habit of voting for another party if aspiration is what you need” nimby policies are utter disaster for the Tory party - that’s why every Tory MP wants to stand on Starmer’s house building policy. That’s unspun truth isn’t it?
Of course you fight for values. If this country got a fascist government I'd cheerfully pick up a gun and fight* it. If this country got attacked by a fascist enemy, I'd pick up a gun and fight* for it.
Who here would really fight for fascism if that fascism was under the union flag?
*I'm not saying I'd be any good, but fuck me I'd try.
Any ‘sport’ decided by interpretation is not a sport. Removes at a stroke from the olympics ;
Gymnastics, diving, all martial arts, boxing, dressage…
Sport should have a definitive objective achieved. Goal scored, run scored, etc.
I mean, fine if you really don't care, but it certainly affects you more than just her doling out some title.
This is going to sound more provocative than I intend but fuck it here it is anyway. They need a Keir Starmer figure.
As you also well know the Redfield bluewall poll last week is the ONLY bluewall poll to have had the Tories ahead since Sunak became PM and coincidentally comes after Starmer's proposals to build on the greenbelt
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I am a conservative, not a laissez-faire libertarian, sometimes conservatives do intervene in the economy when required. That does not make them socialist, it seems you and Truss don't understand the difference