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The New York court hearing open thread – politicalbetting.com
The New York court hearing open thread – politicalbetting.com
The first thing I hope we will get is the detail of each of the charges against the former President. At the moment we don’t know.
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https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1643304829387694092
Questioning Humza Yousaf’s competence is ‘racist’, says SNP MP
Karen Adam claims he’d been unfairly criticised because of hi
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2023/04/04/snp-mp-karen-adam-humza-yousaf-competence-racist/
Wait until Karen Adams hears what I said about, inter alia, Liz Truss and Sir Gavin Williamson.
What I said this morning.
Could Trump end up in prison sooner than we think?
He’s the sort of chap who could insult the judge/dox the jury and end up with a contempt charge.
I think American judiciary have quite strong powers in this regard.
Oh, hang on.
I'm 12 hours early.
https://ryxcommar.com/2023/03/28/chatgpt-as-a-query-engine-on-a-giant-corpus-of-text/
Not on this case at least, but even then.
Lamb to the Slaughter or go down fighting? Because going down fighting could see him going down pretty quickly and unambiguously.
“Sean Hogg raped a 13 year old girl
Judge Lord Lake saw fit to sentence Sean Hogg to:
- No prison time
- 7 weeks community service (unpaid work)
- 3 years on the sex offender registry
Rape in Scotland over the next 10 years will skyrocket because of this case”
https://twitter.com/themaxstoic/status/1643166062475722753?s=46&t=bulOICNH15U6kB0MwE6Lfw
People on Twitter are blaming it on Progressive SNP Judicial Reforms. I have NO idea if this is true
It does seem remarkably lenient
For once British media's cultural cringe in following american news is at least partially justified.
The ones for magistrates in England are so proscriptive that they practically dictate the sentences.
Blimey, being on here this evening is like playing a game of Cards Against Humanity
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-65173054
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-65173054
It does seem excruciatingly unfair on the 13 year old VICTIM. He doesn’t even do a day in jail?
Hey Ho. I don’t know the details so I’ll leave it there
https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/crime/sean-hogg-rapist-who-attacked-13-year-old-girl-in-dalkeith-country-park-walks-free-from-court-4091838
Rape of a 13-year-old girl, unknown to the attacker, in a public park. Seems astonishingly lenient a sentence, given that the attacker was old enough to vote.
How to avoid martyring him at some point during those cases?
What makes this even odder, at least judging by the news reports, is that. mitigating factors aside, there were some pretty strong aggravating factors: the victim was just 13. The judge's remark that if he had been over 25 the sentence would have been 4-5 years imprisonment is itself, on the face of it, odd: surely one would expect a much longer sentence?
20. The full range of sentencing options remains open to the court. However, the nature and duration of a sentence imposed on a young person should be different from that which might be imposed on an older person being sentenced for the same, or a similar, offence.
21. A custodial sentence should only be imposed on a young person when the court is satisfied that no other sentence is appropriate. If a custodial sentence is imposed on a young person, it should be shorter than that which would have been imposed on an older person for the same, or a similar, offence.
https://www.scottishsentencingcouncil.org.uk/media/2171/sentencing-young-people-guideline-for-publication.pdf
Nothing there that constitutes a blanket excuse of young people from prison. The decision to give him a slap on the wrist is ultimately on the judge.
"A new sentencing guideline developed by the Scottish Sentencing Council comes into effect in all courts in Scotland today (Wednesday, 26 January 2022).
The sentencing young people guideline applies to the sentencing of those who are under the age of 25 at the date of their plea of guilty or when a finding of guilt is made against them.
It was developed over an intensive period of stakeholder engagement and research, culminating in a full public consultation in 2020 and its approval by the High Court on 09 November 2021.
Reflecting compelling scientific evidence on the development of cognitive maturity, the guideline says that a young person will generally have a lower level of maturity, and a greater capacity for change and rehabilitation, than an older person.
For this reason, it states that rehabilitation should be a primary consideration when sentencing a young person.
The Council considers that this will help to achieve one of the guideline’s key aims: to reduce reoffending among young people, and thereby help to increase public safety."
They've gone raving bonkers, haven't they?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-56364821
https://www.heraldscotland.com/politics/23434828.yousaf-says-understands-concerns-rapist-hogg-avoids-jail/
You enemy of Planet Earth.
Some of his critics are racist/far right, therefore if you join in criticism of him you’re just as bad.
It applies to a variety of issues. Low traffic neighbourhood and the trans debate among others. Join in the criticism and you’re aligning with bad people.
"A sobbing rapist who attacked a 13-year-old girl in a Midlothian park walked free from court on Monday. Sean Hogg pounced on the girl at Dalkeith Country Park on various occasions between March and June 2018.
"Court papers state Hogg, now 21, threatened his victim and pulled down her lower clothing. Hogg, of Hamilton, South Lanarkshire, then seized her by the wrists and caused the girl to carry out a sex act on him. He then pushed his victim's head down and raped her."
Mind you sometimes we see some local news too.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11937665/Moment-Just-Stop-Oil-eco-zealot-sings-protest-song-police-hauled-Dartford-Crossing.html
Which means it'll probably happen.
Sounds like Rishi Sunak is pressing ahead with plans to change the definition of sex in the Equality Act to biological sex
Source close to Sunak says he 'remains committed to his campaign pledge' and he will support Badenoch in 'taking that work forward'
https://twitter.com/steven_swinford/status/1643277177843007490
Scotland does not have sentencing guidelines for rape as yet. The only relevant guidelines are those for sentencing young people. AIUI, the SNP pushed for this to be defined as offenders aged below 25 and this was accepted by the Sentencing Council for Scotland, despite the majority of respondents to the consultation being against it. But, as Pigeon says, this is down to the judge. The guidelines say that a custodial sentence should only be imposed if no other sentence is appropriate. My view is that this is a case where the judge should have decided that no other sentence is appropriate and sent him to jail.
The levels of crucifixion and impalement are shockingly low.
Judges will sometimes make mistakes and I hope there is scope for the leniency of the sentence to be appealed, though the report only says that the defendant intends to appeal the sentence.
Ludicrous sentences (both ways) have been known to happen in England, quite frequently.