The Humza Yousaf exit markets are going to be fun.
I'm going to go for late 2024/earlier 2025.
All dependent on the next GE.
I've discovered something very disturbing about Humza Yousaf.
He went to a grammar school.
No, he went to a private school like us. 'Hutchesons' Grammar School is an independent day school for boys and girls aged 3–18 in Glasgow, Scotland.' Indeed the leader of Scottish Labour, Anas Sarwar went to the same private school. Albeit Douglas Ross went to a comprehensive https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hutchesons'_Grammar_School
Hurrah, it is remarkable what a private education for the children/grandchildren of humble immigrants from Pakistan.
What does it do for arrogant ones?
Not that you would know of course, Mr Eagles, given your legendary modesty...
OT. A great piece on the Cotswold hunt burying foxes alive and students at agricultural college tying foxes to cars and parading them. These people should be horse whipped and sent to spend the remainder of their lives in Rwanda. Who would miss them?.
Is it weird to find anthropomorphic foxes in cartoons etc quite sexy? Asking for a friend.
The Humza Yousaf exit markets are going to be fun.
I'm going to go for late 2024/earlier 2025.
All dependent on the next GE.
I've discovered something very disturbing about Humza Yousaf.
He went to a grammar school.
No, he went to a private school like us. 'Hutchesons' Grammar School is an independent day school for boys and girls aged 3–18 in Glasgow, Scotland.' Indeed the leader of Scottish Labour, Anas Sarwar went to the same private school. Albeit Douglas Ross went to a comprehensive https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hutchesons'_Grammar_School
Hurrah, it is remarkable what a private education for the children/grandchildren of humble immigrants from Pakistan.
What does it do for arrogant ones?
Not that you would know of course, Mr Eagles, given your legendary modesty...
The Humza Yousaf exit markets are going to be fun.
I'm going to go for late 2024/earlier 2025.
All dependent on the next GE.
I've discovered something very disturbing about Humza Yousaf.
He went to a grammar school.
No, he went to a private school like us. 'Hutchesons' Grammar School is an independent day school for boys and girls aged 3–18 in Glasgow, Scotland.' Indeed the leader of Scottish Labour, Anas Sarwar went to the same private school. Albeit Douglas Ross went to a comprehensive https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hutchesons'_Grammar_School
Hurrah, it is remarkable what a private education for the children/grandchildren of humble immigrants from Pakistan.
What does it do for arrogant ones?
Not that you would know of course, Mr Eagles, given your legendary modesty...
I hate arrogance.
But I'm not a humble immigrant to this country.
Which of the words in bold should we be agreeing with?
The Humza Yousaf exit markets are going to be fun.
I'm going to go for late 2024/earlier 2025.
All dependent on the next GE.
I've discovered something very disturbing about Humza Yousaf.
He went to a grammar school.
No, he went to a private school like us. 'Hutchesons' Grammar School is an independent day school for boys and girls aged 3–18 in Glasgow, Scotland.' Indeed the leader of Scottish Labour, Anas Sarwar went to the same private school. Albeit Douglas Ross went to a comprehensive https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hutchesons'_Grammar_School
Hurrah, it is remarkable what a private education for the children/grandchildren of humble immigrants from Pakistan.
What does it do for arrogant ones?
Not that you would know of course, Mr Eagles, given your legendary modesty...
The Humza Yousaf exit markets are going to be fun.
I'm going to go for late 2024/earlier 2025.
All dependent on the next GE.
I've discovered something very disturbing about Humza Yousaf.
He went to a grammar school.
No, he went to a private school like us. 'Hutchesons' Grammar School is an independent day school for boys and girls aged 3–18 in Glasgow, Scotland.' Indeed the leader of Scottish Labour, Anas Sarwar went to the same private school. Albeit Douglas Ross went to a comprehensive https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hutchesons'_Grammar_School
Hurrah, it is remarkable what a private education for the children/grandchildren of humble immigrants from Pakistan.
What does it do for arrogant ones?
Not that you would know of course, Mr Eagles, given your legendary modesty...
The Humza Yousaf exit markets are going to be fun.
I'm going to go for late 2024/earlier 2025.
All dependent on the next GE.
I've discovered something very disturbing about Humza Yousaf.
He went to a grammar school.
No, he went to a private school like us. 'Hutchesons' Grammar School is an independent day school for boys and girls aged 3–18 in Glasgow, Scotland.' Indeed the leader of Scottish Labour, Anas Sarwar went to the same private school. Albeit Douglas Ross went to a comprehensive https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hutchesons'_Grammar_School
Hurrah, it is remarkable what a private education for the children/grandchildren of humble immigrants from Pakistan.
What does it do for arrogant ones?
Not that you would know of course, Mr Eagles, given your legendary modesty...
I hate arrogance.
But I'm not a humble immigrant to this country.
Neither humble nor immigrant?
Well.
I'll let you all into a little secret.
I was genuinely humble and modest up to about the age of 19/20, because that's how my parents/grandparents were and raised me.
It was at university I turned into self assured person you all know now.
The Humza Yousaf exit markets are going to be fun.
I'm going to go for late 2024/earlier 2025.
All dependent on the next GE.
I've discovered something very disturbing about Humza Yousaf.
He went to a grammar school.
No, he went to a private school like us. 'Hutchesons' Grammar School is an independent day school for boys and girls aged 3–18 in Glasgow, Scotland.' Indeed the leader of Scottish Labour, Anas Sarwar went to the same private school. Albeit Douglas Ross went to a comprehensive https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hutchesons'_Grammar_School
Hurrah, it is remarkable what a private education for the children/grandchildren of humble immigrants from Pakistan.
What does it do for arrogant ones?
Not that you would know of course, Mr Eagles, given your legendary modesty...
Struggling to see how the member for *Skye, Lochaber and Badenoch* squares 'Rural Affairs are so unimportant it's insulting to be given the opportunity to represent them in the Cabinet of the national government'.
The Humza Yousaf exit markets are going to be fun.
I'm going to go for late 2024/earlier 2025.
All dependent on the next GE.
I've discovered something very disturbing about Humza Yousaf.
He went to a grammar school.
No, he went to a private school like us. 'Hutchesons' Grammar School is an independent day school for boys and girls aged 3–18 in Glasgow, Scotland.' Indeed the leader of Scottish Labour, Anas Sarwar went to the same private school. Albeit Douglas Ross went to a comprehensive https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hutchesons'_Grammar_School
Hurrah, it is remarkable what a private education for the children/grandchildren of humble immigrants from Pakistan.
What does it do for arrogant ones?
Not that you would know of course, Mr Eagles, given your legendary modesty...
I hate arrogance.
But I'm not a humble immigrant to this country.
Which of the words in bold should we be agreeing with?
The Humza Yousaf exit markets are going to be fun.
I'm going to go for late 2024/earlier 2025.
All dependent on the next GE.
I've discovered something very disturbing about Humza Yousaf.
He went to a grammar school.
I believe any school in Scotland appended by 'grammar' only has it for historical reasons, mine certainly did.
Thanks.
Hopefully it won't be long until England follows Scotland's lead.
Far better if we followed Northern Ireland's lead instead.
In England some areas like Tyneside and Northumberland, Norfolk and Suffolk, Sussex and Surrey, Hertfordshire and Hampshire, inner London, Cornwall and Somerset, Bristol, Oxfordshire and Cambridgeshire, Herefordshire and Shropshire, Nottinghamshire, Derbyshire and Leicestershire don't even have a single grammar school left now.
Fortunately here in Essex we still do, in Chelmsford, Colchester and Southend
The Humza Yousaf exit markets are going to be fun.
I'm going to go for late 2024/earlier 2025.
All dependent on the next GE.
I've discovered something very disturbing about Humza Yousaf.
He went to a grammar school.
I believe any school in Scotland appended by 'grammar' only has it for historical reasons, mine certainly did.
Thanks.
Hopefully it won't be long until England follows Scotland's lead.
Far better if we followed Northern Ireland's lead instead.
In England some areas like Tyneside and Northumberland, Norfolk and Suffolk, Sussex and Surrey, Hertfordshire and Hampshire, inner London, Cornwall and Somerset, Herefordshire and Shropshire, Nottinghamshire, Derbyshire and Leicestershire don't even have a single grammar school left now
Edit - it's in Telford and Wrekin. But if you don't count that as Shropshire, you need to add Staffordshire to your list as the only state grammar is in Stoke.
The Humza Yousaf exit markets are going to be fun.
I'm going to go for late 2024/earlier 2025.
All dependent on the next GE.
I've discovered something very disturbing about Humza Yousaf.
He went to a grammar school.
No, he went to a private school like us. 'Hutchesons' Grammar School is an independent day school for boys and girls aged 3–18 in Glasgow, Scotland.' Indeed the leader of Scottish Labour, Anas Sarwar went to the same private school. Albeit Douglas Ross went to a comprehensive https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hutchesons'_Grammar_School
Hurrah, it is remarkable what a private education for the children/grandchildren of humble immigrants from Pakistan.
What does it do for arrogant ones?
Not that you would know of course, Mr Eagles, given your legendary modesty...
The Humza Yousaf exit markets are going to be fun.
I'm going to go for late 2024/earlier 2025.
All dependent on the next GE.
I've discovered something very disturbing about Humza Yousaf.
He went to a grammar school.
No, he went to a private school like us. 'Hutchesons' Grammar School is an independent day school for boys and girls aged 3–18 in Glasgow, Scotland.' Indeed the leader of Scottish Labour, Anas Sarwar went to the same private school. Albeit Douglas Ross went to a comprehensive https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hutchesons'_Grammar_School
Hurrah, it is remarkable what a private education for the children/grandchildren of humble immigrants from Pakistan.
What does it do for arrogant ones?
Not that you would know of course, Mr Eagles, given your legendary modesty...
I hate arrogance.
But I'm not a humble immigrant to this country.
Neither humble nor immigrant?
Well.
I'll let you all into a little secret.
I was genuinely humble and modest up to about the age of 19/20, because that's how my parents/grandparents were and raised me.
It was at university I turned into self assured person you all know now.
More than that, you were the most humble and modest person you knew. The undisputed king of humility and modesty.
The Humza Yousaf exit markets are going to be fun.
I'm going to go for late 2024/earlier 2025.
All dependent on the next GE.
I've discovered something very disturbing about Humza Yousaf.
He went to a grammar school.
I believe any school in Scotland appended by 'grammar' only has it for historical reasons, mine certainly did.
Thanks.
Hopefully it won't be long until England follows Scotland's lead.
Far better if we followed Northern Ireland's lead instead.
In England some areas like Tyneside and Northumberland, Norfolk and Suffolk, Sussex and Surrey, Hertfordshire and Hampshire, inner London, Cornwall and Somerset, Herefordshire and Shropshire, Nottinghamshire, Derbyshire and Leicestershire don't even have a single grammar school left now
Edit - it's in Telford and Wrekin. But if you don't count that as Shropshire, you need to add Staffordshire to your list as the only state grammar is in Stoke.
Not really a full state grammar school though as it has boarders it charges £12,144 per year for. It is really part grammar school, part private school for boarders
Struggling to see how the member for *Skye, Lochaber and Badenoch* squares 'Rural Affairs are so unimportant it's insulting to be given the opportunity to represent them in the Cabinet of the national government'.
The Humza Yousaf exit markets are going to be fun.
I'm going to go for late 2024/earlier 2025.
All dependent on the next GE.
I've discovered something very disturbing about Humza Yousaf.
He went to a grammar school.
No, he went to a private school like us. 'Hutchesons' Grammar School is an independent day school for boys and girls aged 3–18 in Glasgow, Scotland.' Indeed the leader of Scottish Labour, Anas Sarwar went to the same private school. Albeit Douglas Ross went to a comprehensive https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hutchesons'_Grammar_School
Hurrah, it is remarkable what a private education for the children/grandchildren of humble immigrants from Pakistan.
What does it do for arrogant ones?
Not that you would know of course, Mr Eagles, given your legendary modesty...
I hate arrogance.
But I'm not a humble immigrant to this country.
Neither humble nor immigrant?
Well.
I'll let you all into a little secret.
I was genuinely humble and modest up to about the age of 19/20, because that's how my parents/grandparents were and raised me.
It was at university I turned into self assured person you all know now.
More than that, you were the most humble and modest person you knew. The undisputed king of humility and modesty.
It was the opinion of my teachers, they told me to believe in myself more.
It's why I want every child to have the kind of education I had.
Small class sizes where the teachers knew what to do for every student.
The Humza Yousaf exit markets are going to be fun.
I'm going to go for late 2024/earlier 2025.
All dependent on the next GE.
I've discovered something very disturbing about Humza Yousaf.
He went to a grammar school.
I believe any school in Scotland appended by 'grammar' only has it for historical reasons, mine certainly did.
Thanks.
Hopefully it won't be long until England follows Scotland's lead.
Far better if we followed Northern Ireland's lead instead.
In England some areas like Tyneside and Northumberland, Norfolk and Suffolk, Sussex and Surrey, Hertfordshire and Hampshire, inner London, Cornwall and Somerset, Herefordshire and Shropshire, Nottinghamshire, Derbyshire and Leicestershire don't even have a single grammar school left now
Edit - it's in Telford and Wrekin. But if you don't count that as Shropshire, you need to add Staffordshire to your list as the only state grammar is in Stoke.
Not really a full state grammar school though as it has boarders it charges £12,144 per year for. It is really part grammar school, part private school for boarders
No, it's not just a private school for boarders as you still have to pass the exam to get in, and the tuition is on the state.
To my mind it's a shambolic arrangement, but it isn't actually unique. There are state boarding schools in Keswick and I think also Burford that use the same model.
In any case Newport Girls High School is completely free, although I appreciate you and I wouldn't have been able to enrol in it...
Struggling to see how the member for *Skye, Lochaber and Badenoch* squares 'Rural Affairs are so unimportant it's insulting to be given the opportunity to represent them in the Cabinet of the national government'.
Struggling to see how the member for *Skye, Lochaber and Badenoch* squares 'Rural Affairs are so unimportant it's insulting to be given the opportunity to represent them in the Cabinet of the national government'.
Islington North vox pops on BBC London News not especially supportive of Starmer this evening.
FWIW I think Corbyn will win his seat easily if he stands as an Indy. He has Red Ken as a shining example of what can be achieved and, no doubt, Mr L will pile in to support his campaign.
He'll poll well if he stands. He'll have taken the temperature and won't be doing it otherwise. If he doesn't stand that tells us he knows he'd get hammered.
He may well poll fairly well simply through name recognition but he’ll still get thrashed by the Labour candidate. It’s one of the safest seats in the country but it’s also socially and ethnically diverse and he is a busted flush. Islington is not tower hamlets.
It genuinely is moving for me that London, Scotland, and the UK are run by non white people, from different parties.
True but white males Sir Keir Starmer and Douglas Ross could still become UK PM and Scottish FM at the next UK general and Scottish elections
Doesn't matter, white people are the majority in this country, I'd expect them to be in charge most of the time.
But think about it, race really didn't factor in these leadership elections. In Scotland it was the religion of Kate Forbes which was focussed on a lot.
There was no rancour in the streets of the black* men having the whip hand over the white people.
It genuinely is moving for me that London, Scotland, and the UK are run by non white people, from different parties.
True but white males Sir Keir Starmer and Douglas Ross could still become UK PM and Scottish FM at the next UK general and Scottish elections
Bloody hell. What are you drinking this evening?
Well he is leader of the Opposition in Scotland and Yousaf is hopeless
"leader of the Opposition in Scotland",
Nonsense.
Mr Sarwar is.
No he isn't. Ross has more MSPs in his party than Sarwar does in his. Arguably rural seats in Scotland are now more likely to go SCon under Yousaf than central belt seats are to go to SLab, though I expect the SNP to lose ground in both with Yousaf in charge
Struggling to see how the member for *Skye, Lochaber and Badenoch* squares 'Rural Affairs are so unimportant it's insulting to be given the opportunity to represent them in the Cabinet of the national government'.
It genuinely is moving for me that London, Scotland, and the UK are run by non white people, from different parties.
True but white males Sir Keir Starmer and Douglas Ross could still become UK PM and Scottish FM at the next UK general and Scottish elections
Bloody hell. What are you drinking this evening?
Well he is leader of the Opposition in Scotland and Yousaf is hopeless
"leader of the Opposition in Scotland",
Nonsense.
Mr Sarwar is.
No he isn't. Ross has more MSPs in his party than Sarwar does in his. Arguably rural seats in Scotland are now more likely to go SCon under Yousaf than central belt seats are to go to SLab, though I expect the SNP to lose ground in both with Yousaf in charge
Pressed the button too early - sorry. Was already edited by the time you saw this.
It genuinely is moving for me that London, Scotland, and the UK are run by non white people, from different parties.
True but white males Sir Keir Starmer and Douglas Ross could still become UK PM and Scottish FM at the next UK general and Scottish elections
Doesn't matter, white people are the majority in this country, I'd expect them to be in charge most of the time.
But think about it, race really didn't factor in these leadership elections. In Scotland it was the religion of Kate Forbes which was focussed on a lot.
There was no rancour in the streets of the black* men having the whip hand over the white people.
*Well brown.
On that you are right, you are regarded with much more suspicion being an evangelical Christian by most British people now as a potential PM than you are as a non white British person, even if you are Muslim or Hindu (provided not too hardline in your faith)
Struggling to see how the member for *Skye, Lochaber and Badenoch* squares 'Rural Affairs are so unimportant it's insulting to be given the opportunity to represent them in the Cabinet of the national government'.
Struggling to see how the member for *Skye, Lochaber and Badenoch* squares 'Rural Affairs are so unimportant it's insulting to be given the opportunity to represent them in the Cabinet of the national government'.
It genuinely is moving for me that London, Scotland, and the UK are run by non white people, from different parties.
True but white males Sir Keir Starmer and Douglas Ross could still become UK PM and Scottish FM at the next UK general and Scottish elections
Bloody hell. What are you drinking this evening?
Well he is leader of the Opposition in Scotland and Yousaf is hopeless
"leader of the Opposition in Scotland",
Nonsense.
Mr Sarwar is.
Technically Hyufd is right on this, but in practice I suspect Kate Forbes is likely to prove more of a threat to Yousaf than either of them.
I don't think there is an official "Leader of the Opposition". Nothing I can see on the SPICe website.
Never was. Didn't make sense in a buggered d'Hondt system where Labour and the LDs hoped to be 1st and 2nd parties anyway, and neither wanted to give the SNP Official OPposition status if it did better than they feared.
Struggling to see how the member for *Skye, Lochaber and Badenoch* squares 'Rural Affairs are so unimportant it's insulting to be given the opportunity to represent them in the Cabinet of the national government'.
Struggling to see how the member for *Skye, Lochaber and Badenoch* squares 'Rural Affairs are so unimportant it's insulting to be given the opportunity to represent them in the Cabinet of the national government'.
The Humza Yousaf exit markets are going to be fun.
I'm going to go for late 2024/earlier 2025.
All dependent on the next GE.
I've discovered something very disturbing about Humza Yousaf.
He went to a grammar school.
No, he went to a private school like us. 'Hutchesons' Grammar School is an independent day school for boys and girls aged 3–18 in Glasgow, Scotland.' Indeed the leader of Scottish Labour, Anas Sarwar went to the same private school. Albeit Douglas Ross went to a comprehensive https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hutchesons'_Grammar_School
Hurrah, it is remarkable what a private education for the children/grandchildren of humble immigrants from Pakistan.
What does it do for arrogant ones?
Not that you would know of course, Mr Eagles, given your legendary modesty...
I hate arrogance.
But I'm not a humble immigrant to this country.
Neither humble nor immigrant?
And perhaps French as well?
Recently I was described as a banker.
I see it is insult me month.
Sorry, not intended to insult. Apologies.
Isn't Mons. Macaron a French Banker?
Incidentally if you want do the full South Asian heritage Leaders thing, you could add in Leo Varadkar.
It genuinely is moving for me that London, Scotland, and the UK are run by non white people, from different parties.
Why? I admit it is interesting in an historical sense and might be moving if you are of say Indian heritage but if you are part of the white majority i find your emotions weird.
Struggling to see how the member for *Skye, Lochaber and Badenoch* squares 'Rural Affairs are so unimportant it's insulting to be given the opportunity to represent them in the Cabinet of the national government'.
She's saying she's taking time away after a bruising campaign to spend family time, and wishes the FM the best of Scottish luck etc.
She's implying she wants nothing to do with the incompetent f***wit's doomed administration.
I suspect her constituents and the wider public get that.
I know, but it is an argument her opponents will make.
As an aside, which is biggest cabinet demotion a UK Chancellor has ever accepted since WWII?
Lord Chancellor, Chancellor of the Exchequer or Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster?
Exchequer.
I think Norman Lamont was offered Environment which he turned down.
Then I would guess the answer is RA Butler in 1955 who accepted Lord Privy Seal and Leader of the House in Eden's only major reshuffle after four years as Chancellor.
Struggling to see how the member for *Skye, Lochaber and Badenoch* squares 'Rural Affairs are so unimportant it's insulting to be given the opportunity to represent them in the Cabinet of the national government'.
It genuinely is moving for me that London, Scotland, and the UK are run by non white people, from different parties.
True but white males Sir Keir Starmer and Douglas Ross could still become UK PM and Scottish FM at the next UK general and Scottish elections
Bloody hell. What are you drinking this evening?
Well he is leader of the Opposition in Scotland and Yousaf is hopeless
"leader of the Opposition in Scotland",
Nonsense.
Mr Sarwar is.
Technically Hyufd is right on this, but in practice I suspect Kate Forbes is likely to prove more of a threat to Yousaf than either of them.
I don't think there is an official "Leader of the Opposition". Nothing I can see on the SPICe website.
Never was. Didn't make sense in a buggered d'Hondt system where Labour and the LDs hoped to be 1st and 2nd parties anyway, and neither wanted to give the SNP Official OPposition status if it did better than they feared.
Yet there has always been one acknowledged in Wales, which has an even more buggered D'Hondt system.
Struggling to see how the member for *Skye, Lochaber and Badenoch* squares 'Rural Affairs are so unimportant it's insulting to be given the opportunity to represent them in the Cabinet of the national government'.
Islington North vox pops on BBC London News not especially supportive of Starmer this evening.
If Blair could tolerate Corbyn then Starmer should be able to do so. It is an unnecessary fight to pick. A bit like when Blair put up Dobson as Mayoral candidate, to lose to Livingstone then grudgingly readmitted Ken to the party.
It probably will lose some votes to the Greens, but not too many.
During the Blair years Corbyn was a nonentity, nobody took a blind bit of notice of anything he said, Having been leader the Tory press in particular were going to amplify his every utterance on Israel and the Ukraine to embarrass the Labour Party. Overall Labour's prospects are significantly improved by him being booted out of the party.
Corbyn was merely a pound shop Dave Nellist until mischievous Conservatives paid their £3 for him to devastate the Labour Party. He duly obliged.
It genuinely is moving for me that London, Scotland, and the UK are run by non white people, from different parties.
True but white males Sir Keir Starmer and Douglas Ross could still become UK PM and Scottish FM at the next UK general and Scottish elections
Bloody hell. What are you drinking this evening?
Well he is leader of the Opposition in Scotland and Yousaf is hopeless
"leader of the Opposition in Scotland",
Nonsense.
Mr Sarwar is.
Technically Hyufd is right on this, but in practice I suspect Kate Forbes is likely to prove more of a threat to Yousaf than either of them.
I don't think there is an official "Leader of the Opposition". Nothing I can see on the SPICe website.
Never was. Didn't make sense in a buggered d'Hondt system where Labour and the LDs hoped to be 1st and 2nd parties anyway, and neither wanted to give the SNP Official OPposition status if it did better than they feared.
Yet there has always been one acknowledged in Wales, which has an even more buggered D'Hondt system.
Interesting. Maybe they weren't so afraid of PC. It's one thing having a fellow Unionist in the job - one's turn next time - but when it comes to ...
It genuinely is moving for me that London, Scotland, and the UK are run by non white people, from different parties.
True but white males Sir Keir Starmer and Douglas Ross could still become UK PM and Scottish FM at the next UK general and Scottish elections
Bloody hell. What are you drinking this evening?
Well he is leader of the Opposition in Scotland and Yousaf is hopeless
"leader of the Opposition in Scotland",
Nonsense.
Mr Sarwar is. Or indeed Mr Double-Barrelled LD. Or indeed nobody. There is no such thing at Holyrood. Though Ms Davidson liked to call herself that.
At least for the FM there is a constitutional, democratic framework for being appointed FM. Parliament, Sovereign, Court of Session.
The PM can be anyone at all. Could be HYUFD.
No, only if the King agrees to appoint me as I can clearly command the support of most MPs in the Commons
This could be easily fixed if there was a quick vote after a GE for the PM in the House of Commons. Would avoid that situation Brown found himself in in 2010, and avoid putting the monarch in an invidious position if there was controversy over the appointment, or if the government immediately collapsed.
Wonder if they considered it around the Fixed-term Parliaments Act?
It genuinely is moving for me that London, Scotland, and the UK are run by non white people, from different parties.
Why? I admit it is interesting in an historical sense and might be moving if you are of say Indian heritage but if you are part of the white majority i find your emotions weird.
He is of Pakistani heritage. Might be a way to go until we get a white PM of Pakistan or India though, although a few whites live, work or retire in Delhi and Mumbai now
It genuinely is moving for me that London, Scotland, and the UK are run by non white people, from different parties.
True but white males Sir Keir Starmer and Douglas Ross could still become UK PM and Scottish FM at the next UK general and Scottish elections
Bloody hell. What are you drinking this evening?
Well he is leader of the Opposition in Scotland and Yousaf is hopeless
"leader of the Opposition in Scotland",
Nonsense.
Mr Sarwar is. Or indeed Mr Double-Barrelled LD. Or indeed nobody. There is no such thing at Holyrood. Though Ms Davidson liked to call herself that.
At least for the FM there is a constitutional, democratic framework for being appointed FM. Parliament, Sovereign, Court of Session.
The PM can be anyone at all. Could be HYUFD.
No, only if the King agrees to appoint me as I can clearly command the support of most MPs in the Commons
This could be easily fixed if there was a quick vote after a GE for the PM in the House of Commons. Would avoid that situation Brown found himself in in 2010, and avoid putting the monarch in an invidious position if there was controversy over the appointment, or if the government immediately collapsed.
Wonder if they considered it around the Fixed-term Parliaments Act?
Curious, given the Scottish system was set up by Blairite Labour and the LDs.
I am trying to think if any chancellors other than Butler and Zahawi have ever accepted another office in cabinet rather than going to The Top or resigning altogether.
If I'm honest, the only other one I can think of is Callaghan in 1967 who was shunted sideways to the Home Office after the devaluation debacle.
It genuinely is moving for me that London, Scotland, and the UK are run by non white people, from different parties.
True but white males Sir Keir Starmer and Douglas Ross could still become UK PM and Scottish FM at the next UK general and Scottish elections
Bloody hell. What are you drinking this evening?
Well he is leader of the Opposition in Scotland and Yousaf is hopeless
"leader of the Opposition in Scotland",
Nonsense.
Mr Sarwar is. Or indeed Mr Double-Barrelled LD. Or indeed nobody. There is no such thing at Holyrood. Though Ms Davidson liked to call herself that.
At least for the FM there is a constitutional, democratic framework for being appointed FM. Parliament, Sovereign, Court of Session.
The PM can be anyone at all. Could be HYUFD.
No, only if the King agrees to appoint me as I can clearly command the support of most MPs in the Commons
This could be easily fixed if there was a quick vote after a GE for the PM in the House of Commons. Would avoid that situation Brown found himself in in 2010, and avoid putting the monarch in an invidious position if there was controversy over the appointment, or if the government immediately collapsed.
Wonder if they considered it around the Fixed-term Parliaments Act?
It is not really needed as a PM who could not command the support of the House of Commons would swiftly lose a VONC. So the monarch by convention only appoints a PM who is leader of the party with a majority of MPs in the Commons or in a hung parliament can form a coalition or confidence and supply deal producing a majority. Hence Cameron only replaced Brown as PM in 2010 and went to the Palace once his deal with the LDs was signed and Corbyn never replaced May in 2017 as he was unable to do the required deal with the DUP she was
I am trying to think if any chancellors other than Butler and Zahawi have ever accepted another office in cabinet rather than going to The Top or resigning altogether.
If I'm honest, the only other one I can think of is Callaghan in 1967 who was shunted sideways to the Home Office after the devaluation debacle.
I am trying to think if any chancellors other than Butler and Zahawi have ever accepted another office in cabinet rather than going to The Top or resigning altogether.
If I'm honest, the only other one I can think of is Callaghan in 1967 who was shunted sideways to the Home Office after the devaluation debacle.
Ken Clarke and Sanid Javid did.
Both resigned before later coming back. If that's the criteria we could add Dalton to the list.
Although I have overlooked Geoffrey Howe in 1983 - Foreign Office.
It genuinely is moving for me that London, Scotland, and the UK are run by non white people, from different parties.
Why? I admit it is interesting in an historical sense and might be moving if you are of say Indian heritage but if you are part of the white majority i find your emotions weird.
He is of Pakistani heritage. Might be a way to go until we get a white PM of Pakistan or India though, although a few whites live, work or retire in Delhi and Mumbai now
I am trying to think if any chancellors other than Butler and Zahawi have ever accepted another office in cabinet rather than going to The Top or resigning altogether.
If I'm honest, the only other one I can think of is Callaghan in 1967 who was shunted sideways to the Home Office after the devaluation debacle.
Big smile at Cicero towers this evening. I was not even going to watch the match, and just had the alert on in the background. Second half began to pay attention and the last 30 minutes have been agony: Its never the despair, Scotland, its the hope.. But wow. what. a. result.
I am trying to think if any chancellors other than Butler and Zahawi have ever accepted another office in cabinet rather than going to The Top or resigning altogether.
If I'm honest, the only other one I can think of is Callaghan in 1967 who was shunted sideways to the Home Office after the devaluation debacle.
Ken Clarke and Sanid Javid did.
Both resigned before later coming back. If that's the criteria we could add Dalton to the list.
Although I have overlooked Geoffrey Howe in 1983 - Foreign Office.
Also Peter Thorneycroft, who resigned as Chancellor in 1958 but returned as Minister for Aviation in 1959 and eventually Secretary of State for Defence in 1962.
It genuinely is moving for me that London, Scotland, and the UK are run by non white people, from different parties.
Why? I admit it is interesting in an historical sense and might be moving if you are of say Indian heritage but if you are part of the white majority i find your emotions weird.
He is of Pakistani heritage. Might be a way to go until we get a white PM of Pakistan or India though, although a few whites live, work or retire in Delhi and Mumbai now
{Sonia Gandhi has entered the chat}
Fair point, though marrying the son of then PM Indira Gandhi helped quite a lot in that and she was only ever Leader of the Opposition in India not PM
Big smile at Cicero towers this evening. I was not even going to watch the match, and just had the alert on in the background. Second half began to pay attention and the last 30 minutes have been agony: Its never the despair, Scotland, its the hope.. But wow. what. a. result.
I suspect that a fair few SNP members who voted for Kate Forbes were expecting Humza Yousaf to offer her nothing less than the post of Deputy FM, and they too will see this as a humiliating snub. Humza is making no attempt to even heal the splits among his Parliamentary party and the remaining SNP membership grassroots, far less the wider Independence movement.
"Now, some will say that Forbes, a Highland MSP, ought to have taken the rural affairs job and used it to improve the lot of those parts of Scotland that were neglected under Sturgeon’s government. But rural affairs is not going to be a priority under Yousaf either. He’s a city boy. He loves cities so much that he represents one while living in another. He shows no particular interest in or understanding of rural Scotland. That he considers the rural affairs post a demotion with which to punish an opponent is perhaps an indication of the regard in which he holds this brief. For Forbes to have taken it under these circumstances would have been to acquiesce in an act of disrespect for communities that have been disrespected more than enough by the SNP."
I suspect that a fair few SNP members who voted for Kate Forbes were expecting Humza Yousaf to offer her nothing less than the post of Deputy FM, and they too will see this as a humiliating snub. Humza is making no attempt to even heal the splits among his Parliamentary party and the remaining SNP membership grassroots, far less the wider Independence movement.
"Now, some will say that Forbes, a Highland MSP, ought to have taken the rural affairs job and used it to improve the lot of those parts of Scotland that were neglected under Sturgeon’s government. But rural affairs is not going to be a priority under Yousaf either. He’s a city boy. He loves cities so much that he represents one while living in another. He shows no particular interest in or understanding of rural Scotland. That he considers the rural affairs post a demotion with which to punish an opponent is perhaps an indication of the regard in which he holds this brief. For Forbes to have taken it under these circumstances would have been to acquiesce in an act of disrespect for communities that have been disrespected more than enough by the SNP."
Rural Scottish seats held by the SNP like Gordon, Angus, Argyll and Bute, Ayrshire Central and Perth and North Perthshire are now prime Conservative targets
I suspect that a fair few SNP members who voted for Kate Forbes were expecting Humza Yousaf to offer her nothing less than the post of Deputy FM, and they too will see this as a humiliating snub. Humza is making no attempt to even heal the splits among his Parliamentary party and the remaining SNP membership grassroots, far less the wider Independence movement.
"Now, some will say that Forbes, a Highland MSP, ought to have taken the rural affairs job and used it to improve the lot of those parts of Scotland that were neglected under Sturgeon’s government. But rural affairs is not going to be a priority under Yousaf either. He’s a city boy. He loves cities so much that he represents one while living in another. He shows no particular interest in or understanding of rural Scotland. That he considers the rural affairs post a demotion with which to punish an opponent is perhaps an indication of the regard in which he holds this brief. For Forbes to have taken it under these circumstances would have been to acquiesce in an act of disrespect for communities that have been disrespected more than enough by the SNP."
Rural Scottish seats held by the SNP like Gordon, Angus, Argyll and Bute, Ayrshire Central and Perth and North Pershire are now prime Conservative targets
I'm surte you are an expert on Scottish affairs, such as the prime role of the Official Leader of the Opposition in the Holyrood Parliament.
I suspect that a fair few SNP members who voted for Kate Forbes were expecting Humza Yousaf to offer her nothing less than the post of Deputy FM, and they too will see this as a humiliating snub. Humza is making no attempt to even heal the splits among his Parliamentary party and the remaining SNP membership grassroots, far less the wider Independence movement.
"Now, some will say that Forbes, a Highland MSP, ought to have taken the rural affairs job and used it to improve the lot of those parts of Scotland that were neglected under Sturgeon’s government. But rural affairs is not going to be a priority under Yousaf either. He’s a city boy. He loves cities so much that he represents one while living in another. He shows no particular interest in or understanding of rural Scotland. That he considers the rural affairs post a demotion with which to punish an opponent is perhaps an indication of the regard in which he holds this brief. For Forbes to have taken it under these circumstances would have been to acquiesce in an act of disrespect for communities that have been disrespected more than enough by the SNP."
Rural Scottish seats held by the SNP like Gordon, Angus, Argyll and Bute, Ayrshire Central and Perth and North Pershire are now prime Conservative targets
Ayrshire Central is certainly not a rural seat. The Conservative vote consists mainly of comfortably off retirees in Troon and Prestwick and staunch orangemen in Irvine and Dreghorn.
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But I'm not a humble immigrant to this country.
Hopefully it won't be long until England follows Scotland's lead.
Queen Elizabeth's Grammar School in Ashbourne springs to mind.
Chase Grammar School here in Cannock is non selective albeit private (and pretty rubbish, but that's another story).
Well, it was nice knowing you...
https://youtube.com/watch?v=GOoJK_fY7nE&si=EnSIkaIECMiOmarE
I'll let you all into a little secret.
I was genuinely humble and modest up to about the age of 19/20, because that's how my parents/grandparents were and raised me.
It was at university I turned into self assured person you all know now.
I see it is insult me month.
She's saying she's taking time away after a bruising campaign to spend family time, and wishes the FM the best of Scottish luck etc.
She's implying she wants nothing to do with the incompetent f***wit's doomed administration.
I suspect her constituents and the wider public get that.
In England some areas like Tyneside and Northumberland, Norfolk and Suffolk, Sussex and Surrey, Hertfordshire and Hampshire, inner London, Cornwall and Somerset, Bristol, Oxfordshire and Cambridgeshire, Herefordshire and Shropshire, Nottinghamshire, Derbyshire and Leicestershire don't even have a single grammar school left now.
Fortunately here in Essex we still do, in Chelmsford, Colchester and Southend
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_grammar_schools_in_England
Edit - it's in Telford and Wrekin. But if you don't count that as Shropshire, you need to add Staffordshire to your list as the only state grammar is in Stoke.
modesty.
I think someone like Forbes would have found that quite insulting.
It's why I want every child to have the kind of education I had.
Small class sizes where the teachers knew what to do for every student.
To my mind it's a shambolic arrangement, but it isn't actually unique. There are state boarding schools in Keswick and I think also Burford that use the same model.
In any case Newport Girls High School is completely free, although I appreciate you and I wouldn't have been able to enrol in it...
Nonsense.
Mr Sarwar is. Or indeed Mr Double-Barrelled LD. Or indeed nobody. There is no such thing at Holyrood. Though Ms Davidson liked to call herself that.
But think about it, race really didn't factor in these leadership elections. In Scotland it was the religion of Kate Forbes which was focussed on a lot.
There was no rancour in the streets of the black* men having the whip hand over the white people.
*Well brown.
The PM can be anyone at all. Could be HYUFD.
As an aside, which is biggest cabinet demotion a UK Chancellor has ever accepted since WWII?
I think Norman Lamont was offered Environment which he turned down.
Incidentally if you want do the full South Asian heritage Leaders thing, you could add in Leo Varadkar.
Wonder if they considered it around the Fixed-term Parliaments Act?
If I'm honest, the only other one I can think of is Callaghan in 1967 who was shunted sideways to the Home Office after the devaluation debacle.
12,133 deaths were registered in England and Wales in the week ending 17 March 2023 (Week 11) 9.7% above the five-year average (1,074 excess deaths).
▪️ 11,315 in England (9.5% above, 983 excess deaths)
▪️ 795 in Wales (12.6% above, 89 excess deaths)
https://twitter.com/ONS/status/1640633559546318849?s=20
Maybe I'm getting a shade ahead of myself, but still.
Although I have overlooked Geoffrey Howe in 1983 - Foreign Office.
https://twitter.com/DanVevers/status/1640817350969573378/photo/1
Stephen Daisley absolutely nails it in The Spectator - Kate Forbes quitting is a nightmare for the SNP
https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/kate-forbes-quitting-is-a-nightmare-for-the-snp/
"Now, some will say that Forbes, a Highland MSP, ought to have taken the rural affairs job and used it to improve the lot of those parts of Scotland that were neglected under Sturgeon’s government. But rural affairs is not going to be a priority under Yousaf either. He’s a city boy. He loves cities so much that he represents one while living in another. He shows no particular interest in or understanding of rural Scotland. That he considers the rural affairs post a demotion with which to punish an opponent is perhaps an indication of the regard in which he holds this brief. For Forbes to have taken it under these circumstances would have been to acquiesce in an act of disrespect for communities that have been disrespected more than enough by the SNP."
The Blue Wall polling much better for Starmer and Labour than the National numbers yesterday which might be illuminating of Blue Wall perspectives.
The Con-Lab swing is a solid 18.5% while the Con-LD swing is 6.5%.
Don’t forget the Blue Wall seats contain plenty of southern Con-Lab marginals.
Sturgeon resigns.
Scotland beat Spain.
If Carling did Tuesdays…