Howdy, Stranger!

It looks like you're new here. Sign in or register to get started.

Survation finds 68% saying they didn’t believe Johnson – politicalbetting.com

123578

Comments

  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 71,070
    Trump doesn’t drink. But he has a beer track advantage over Ron DeSantis.
    https://www.politico.com/news/2023/03/25/trump-desantis-gop-primary-00088730
    Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis’ pre-campaign campaign for president has hit the skids — particularly among key blocs of voters he’ll need to dethrone former President Donald Trump next year.

    Polls show Trump dominating his likely primary competitor among GOP voters in the so-called “beer track” — a shorthand for the cultural and socioeconomic characteristics of the bloc of voters with lower incomes and levels of educational attainment. While DeSantis is still the preferred candidate of high-income voters and those with college degrees, he is showing signs of bleeding there, too...
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 32,557
    ydoethur said:

    This is a bizarre story:

    Principal fired after Florida students shown Michelangelo statue
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-65071989

    It shows just how stupid de Santis is.

    Although I suppose he has effectively banned the showing of photos of himself and Trump under the same law on the ground they’re Cupid stunts.

    The United States is clearly in a very dark place at the moment. Both sides are equally to blame in my opinion.
  • StillWatersStillWaters Posts: 8,258

    Offensive That Wasn't. Over the last few weeks we've been bombarded with news that the Ukrainians are about to launch their big counteroffensive, either to unblock Bakhmut, punch south into Zaporozhe, or both at the same time. Some commentators have speculated about elaborate VSU operational plans, including amphibious landings across the Dnepr as a grand fixing attack, swarms of attack drones, and battalion after battalion of new Western armor. I don't think any of this is actually going to happen at this point. This isn't to say the VSU hasn't tried. They clearly intended to mass forces near Bakhmut and in Zaporozhe as part of an offensive plan. Then two things happened. First, it became obvious that the assembled units were in a dire state and unable to attack. This is a common if depressing phenomenon - commanders tell snowballing white lies on their readiness reports to avoid the wrath of their bosses, until that same higher headquarters orders them to actually do something with their "combat-capable" units and they, rather embarrassedly, report that they're not actually ready for action. Then the Russians happened. More specifically, the Russians used what is clearly an excellent targeting network to destroy critical supply depots that had just been filled for the offensive and hit the collected units in their assembly areas with long-range strikes. This led to, I believe, a drastic de-scoping of the offensive to an effort to stabilize the line in Bakhmut and launch some feints in Zaporozhe in an effort to draw off Russian forces. The Zaporozhe attacks seem to have been shut down by now after disastrous losses with no gains, and General Syrsky is making bizarre excuses about the weather in an effort to explain away the lack of action around a Bakhmut that's in immediate danger of being renamed to Artemovsk. Here's a little military rule: no operation ever has perfect weather. If they were ready, they would have attacked by now. - Alcibiades

    https://twitter.com/PeImeniPusha/status/1639010022649921536?s=20

    How is Russia’s spring offensive going comrade?

  • TresTres Posts: 2,696
    kinabalu said:

    After their staunch defence of Gary Lineker, here is another one, from Brazil this time, for the protectors of free speech to get stuck into.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/65074698

    $1m fine for old men being a bit racist and homophobic is not going to work.

    This one will be more to Toby's taste. Stand by for some rousing Voltaire.
    Won't someone think of the rich old white men.
  • StillWatersStillWaters Posts: 8,258

    Fffs said:

    Mods, can we please not have Russian trolls actively trying to spark bank runs? Thanks.

    Alternatively.....

    Russian troll managers - please note if you want to spread division amongst the fine posters of pb, you will have more success focusing on restaurant menus, whether skiing is an acceptable holiday and what constitutes a Christmas film, rather than going for vaccines, bank runs and Ukraine.
    So going skiing over Christmas, and ordering a takeout pineapple pizza to eat while watching Die Hard is not as sophisticated as I thought?

  • ChrisChris Posts: 11,749

    Offensive That Wasn't. Over the last few weeks we've been bombarded with news that the Ukrainians are about to launch their big counteroffensive, either to unblock Bakhmut, punch south into Zaporozhe, or both at the same time. Some commentators have speculated about elaborate VSU operational plans, including amphibious landings across the Dnepr as a grand fixing attack, swarms of attack drones, and battalion after battalion of new Western armor. I don't think any of this is actually going to happen at this point. This isn't to say the VSU hasn't tried. They clearly intended to mass forces near Bakhmut and in Zaporozhe as part of an offensive plan. Then two things happened. First, it became obvious that the assembled units were in a dire state and unable to attack. This is a common if depressing phenomenon - commanders tell snowballing white lies on their readiness reports to avoid the wrath of their bosses, until that same higher headquarters orders them to actually do something with their "combat-capable" units and they, rather embarrassedly, report that they're not actually ready for action. Then the Russians happened. More specifically, the Russians used what is clearly an excellent targeting network to destroy critical supply depots that had just been filled for the offensive and hit the collected units in their assembly areas with long-range strikes. This led to, I believe, a drastic de-scoping of the offensive to an effort to stabilize the line in Bakhmut and launch some feints in Zaporozhe in an effort to draw off Russian forces. The Zaporozhe attacks seem to have been shut down by now after disastrous losses with no gains, and General Syrsky is making bizarre excuses about the weather in an effort to explain away the lack of action around a Bakhmut that's in immediate danger of being renamed to Artemovsk. Here's a little military rule: no operation ever has perfect weather. If they were ready, they would have attacked by now. - Alcibiades

    https://twitter.com/PeImeniPusha/status/1639010022649921536?s=20

    Please bear in mind that people here have other sources of information.
  • MattWMattW Posts: 23,161
    edited March 2023
    Andy_JS said:

    ydoethur said:

    This is a bizarre story:

    Principal fired after Florida students shown Michelangelo statue
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-65071989

    It shows just how stupid de Santis is.

    Although I suppose he has effectively banned the showing of photos of himself and Trump under the same law on the ground they’re Cupid stunts.

    The United States is clearly in a very dark place at the moment. Both sides are equally to blame in my opinion.
    I love that the offended head of the school board is called "Barney Bishop III".

    Escapee from Bedrock.

    And that the BBC article only includes a picture of David's top half.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 60,447
    Sean_F said:

    Another story that seems worthy of a bit on discussion on here:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-65038587

    MI5 spy reveals secret 'unauthorised' IRA talks

    I say well done him, ballsy with personal risk from both sides, but paid off.

    I disagree. He was making promises that he had no means of implementing.
    And, that he probably agreed with as his personal view.
  • ChrisChris Posts: 11,749
    Andy_JS said:

    ydoethur said:

    This is a bizarre story:

    Principal fired after Florida students shown Michelangelo statue
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-65071989

    It shows just how stupid de Santis is.

    Although I suppose he has effectively banned the showing of photos of himself and Trump under the same law on the ground they’re Cupid stunts.

    The United States is clearly in a very dark place at the moment. Both sides are equally to blame in my opinion.
    So hilarious, considering that the HOLY BIBLE explicitly says that the idea that nakedness is something to be ashamed of is a consequence of SIN!
  • FrankBoothFrankBooth Posts: 9,828
    Here are the real thoughts of Lt General Keith Kellogg (I don't think 'Ocean Drive' provided a link). He's concerned about the situation in the war but his answer is more lethal aid to Ukraine now in order to prevent a long war.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdIO3Bu9MaE

    Meanwhile Russian government revenues down a quarter year on year.
  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 11,064
    kinabalu said:

    Foxy said:

    Mr. Mark, while I'm (vaguely) aware that DRC has been (ironically) severely harmed by the armed conflicts over its many resources, not sure if the 21st century has seen violence/death tolls on a par with Ethiopia's rarely mentioned war.

    I can see why, for a European audience, Ukraine would take precedence, but the near total lack of coverage of the Ethiopian war seems bizarre.

    Partly because our media tends to ignore Africa, partly because the conflict there is difficult and inconvenient* to understand, but mostly because it is not a war with immediate threat to our own safety.

    * for example, recognising that people fleeing it might actually be refugees rather than economic migrants.
    The idea that people are 100% economic migrant or 100% refugee is nearly always wrong.
    Replace 'economic migrant' and 'refugee' with just about anything and this statement about people will still be true.
    The idea that people are 100% Platonic solids or 100% the use of evidentiality in verb forms is nearly always wrong.

    Hmmmm, I guess that is still true…
  • noneoftheabovenoneoftheabove Posts: 22,822
    edited March 2023
    MattW said:

    Andy_JS said:

    ydoethur said:

    This is a bizarre story:

    Principal fired after Florida students shown Michelangelo statue
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-65071989

    It shows just how stupid de Santis is.

    Although I suppose he has effectively banned the showing of photos of himself and Trump under the same law on the ground they’re Cupid stunts.

    The United States is clearly in a very dark place at the moment. Both sides are equally to blame in my opinion.
    I love that the offended head of the school board is called "Barney Bishop III".

    Escapee from Bedrock.

    And that the BBC article only includes a picture of David's top half.
    Typical lefty bbc, bashing the bishop in full view of minors.
  • MattWMattW Posts: 23,161
    Chris said:

    Andy_JS said:

    ydoethur said:

    This is a bizarre story:

    Principal fired after Florida students shown Michelangelo statue
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-65071989

    It shows just how stupid de Santis is.

    Although I suppose he has effectively banned the showing of photos of himself and Trump under the same law on the ground they’re Cupid stunts.

    The United States is clearly in a very dark place at the moment. Both sides are equally to blame in my opinion.
    So hilarious, considering that the HOLY BIBLE explicitly says that the idea that nakedness is something to be ashamed of is a consequence of SIN!
    However, the central message of said Bible is about salvation from sin, so the aforementioned Yankee Doodles don't need to be obsessed any more :smile: .
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 52,565
    Nigelb said:

    FYI: Bad news: it appears that there has been an underlying medical problem behind some of my recent medical problems (it made them more likely to happen). It isn't a really serious problem, but it needs to be dealt with ASAP and in order to stabilize it and over time fix it,
    https://mobile.twitter.com/Rebel44CZ/status/1639255328595365893

    I will take over updating the Russian and Ukrainian losses for a month. If no permanent solution is found by then, we'll kill off all lists related to the Russo-Ukrainian War.
    https://mobile.twitter.com/oryxspioenkop/status/1639592320550019075

    Poisoned by Russia? Putin must have hated those lists, all backed up by evidence....
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,100

    kle4 said:

    IanB2 said:

    Liz Truss has requested peerages for some of her closest Tory supporters despite her government lasting only seven weeks after a disastrous budget.

    The former prime minister is understood to have submitted a list of peerages, while No 10 is also still considering whether to grant a long list of honours requested by Boris Johnson as well.

    What a bizarre attempt to make something peculiar out of something entirely normal.
    Not really. Not all PMs have issued resignation honours. Therefore its perfectly reasonable to ask whether it should be something all can do even if PM for 2 months. Might at least the number be limited?
    The fact that some PMs have chosen not to exercise a choice is irrelevant in an argument about whether or not those who have chosen to exercise it should be allowed to do so. I don't know where Iain's quote came from but it smacks of more slimy briefing from the same delightful characters surrounding Sunak who demand party loyalty from everyone else except themselves.
    It's not irrelevant at all. Conventions evolve. Its convention we hold general elections on Thursdays but it was not always convention and not universally followed in any case. A choice to nominate does not oblige it, and any choice is open to criticism.

    People are well within rights to suggest the convention should be about rewarding those who gave good service during a premiership and that someone gone in 2 months has no reason to make such an award. Likewise, the fact not all PMs do it gives grounds for people to suggest it should be made official that none can do it.

    My preference would be the latter but obviously Truss is entitled to nominate under current rules.

    What she's not entitled to is amnesty from
    any criticism of her exercising the option.

    It's her choice and people can criticise her choices. Why shouldn't people say its wrong if they think it is? Many things are permissible but that doesn't mean people have to accept it is right in all circumstances.
  • DougSealDougSeal Posts: 12,541
    edited March 2023
    MattW said:

    Andy_JS said:

    ydoethur said:

    This is a bizarre story:

    Principal fired after Florida students shown Michelangelo statue
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-65071989

    It shows just how stupid de Santis is.

    Although I suppose he has effectively banned the showing of photos of himself and Trump under the same law on the ground they’re Cupid stunts.

    The United States is clearly in a very dark place at the moment. Both sides are equally to blame in my opinion.
    I love that the offended head of the school board is called "Barney Bishop III".

    Escapee from Bedrock.

    And that the BBC article only includes a picture of David's top half.
    It’s a body shaming thing. If you look closely at Michaelangelo’s David, it’s rich detail, the six pack, the veins in his hands…but no anus. So we are teaching young men that to achieve this famous exemplar of bodily perfection you must not be in possession of an anus. That and his tiny front bits. I’m not surprised it was banned.
  • pingping Posts: 3,805
    edited March 2023
    MattW said:

    Andy_JS said:

    ydoethur said:

    This is a bizarre story:

    Principal fired after Florida students shown Michelangelo statue
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-65071989

    It shows just how stupid de Santis is.

    Although I suppose he has effectively banned the showing of photos of himself and Trump under the same law on the ground they’re Cupid stunts.

    The United States is clearly in a very dark place at the moment. Both sides are equally to blame in my opinion.
    I love that the offended head of the school board is called "Barney Bishop III".

    Escapee from Bedrock.

    And that the BBC article only includes a picture of David's top half.
    That is a very good point. The BBC have made an editorial judgment, there.
  • DougSealDougSeal Posts: 12,541

    Sean_F said:

    Another story that seems worthy of a bit on discussion on here:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-65038587

    MI5 spy reveals secret 'unauthorised' IRA talks

    I say well done him, ballsy with personal risk from both sides, but paid off.

    I disagree. He was making promises that he had no means of implementing.
    And, that he probably agreed with as his personal view.
    He wasn’t making promises. I often say to opponents in litigation “I’ve got no instructions on this, so have to revert to my client, but hypothetically how would your client react to x as an offer”
  • OnlyLivingBoyOnlyLivingBoy Posts: 15,784
    DougSeal said:

    MattW said:

    Andy_JS said:

    ydoethur said:

    This is a bizarre story:

    Principal fired after Florida students shown Michelangelo statue
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-65071989

    It shows just how stupid de Santis is.

    Although I suppose he has effectively banned the showing of photos of himself and Trump under the same law on the ground they’re Cupid stunts.

    The United States is clearly in a very dark place at the moment. Both sides are equally to blame in my opinion.
    I love that the offended head of the school board is called "Barney Bishop III".

    Escapee from Bedrock.

    And that the BBC article only includes a picture of David's top half.
    It’s a body shaming thing. If you look closely at Michaelangelo’s David, it’s rich detail, the six pack, the veins in his hands…but no anus. So we are teaching young men that to achieve this famous exemplar of bodily perfection you must not be in possession of an anus. That and his tiny front bits. I’m not surprised it was banned.
    I always assumed he'd just been swimming in the North Sea.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 52,565
    We finally got around to renewing our passports this week. (I haven't travelled abroad for years.)

    We'd thought maybe Paris, to have a nice weekend break.

    Hmmm. Nope.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,100
    Nigelb said:

    Trump doesn’t drink. But he has a beer track advantage over Ron DeSantis.
    https://www.politico.com/news/2023/03/25/trump-desantis-gop-primary-00088730
    Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis’ pre-campaign campaign for president has hit the skids — particularly among key blocs of voters he’ll need to dethrone former President Donald Trump next year.

    Polls show Trump dominating his likely primary competitor among GOP voters in the so-called “beer track” — a shorthand for the cultural and socioeconomic characteristics of the bloc of voters with lower incomes and levels of educational attainment. While DeSantis is still the preferred candidate of high-income voters and those with college degrees, he is showing signs of bleeding there, too...

    To stem bleeding you need to take action - it's still early, but he needs to be more direct in why him and not Trump.

    If Trump is indicted soon most Republicans will be expending time and air on how hes innocent and it's a witch hunt and he needs support . If Desantis at that point tries to say no to Trump he'll be going against the grain.
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 42,135
    edited March 2023
    Andy_JS said:

    ydoethur said:

    This is a bizarre story:

    Principal fired after Florida students shown Michelangelo statue
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-65071989

    It shows just how stupid de Santis is.

    Although I suppose he has effectively banned the showing of photos of himself and Trump under the same law on the ground they’re Cupid stunts.

    The United States is clearly in a very dark place at the moment. Both sides are equally to blame in my opinion.
    Hmm, dunno about this 'both sides as bad as each other' business. DeSantis is a horror, yes, but Trump is another league worse.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,100
    Andy_JS said:

    ydoethur said:

    This is a bizarre story:

    Principal fired after Florida students shown Michelangelo statue
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-65071989

    It shows just how stupid de Santis is.

    Although I suppose he has effectively banned the showing of photos of himself and Trump under the same law on the ground they’re Cupid stunts.

    The United States is clearly in a very dark place at the moment. Both sides are equally to blame in my opinion.
    75/25

    All are sinners, but not all sins are equal.
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 27,898

    Nigelb said:

    The Chair of NHS England appears also to be chair of the Credit Suisse risk committee.
    https://www.credit-suisse.com/about-us/en/our-company/our-management/board-of-directors/richard-meddings.html

    Why ?

    The Chair of NHS England was talking recently about doctors being over-skilled. Sounds like the sort of innovative thinker needed by the Credit Suisse risk committee. And he's one of those exciting chartered accountants @kinabalu keeps telling us about. What could go wrong?
    A basic rule of the NU10K is that full membership is only accorded to properly generalist.

    Before 2008, Risk wasn’t fashionable. It was a dead end career in many banks. In one, I know of, the head of Risk was a guy who’d been shoved there as a political move to end his career. Where he sat, writing memos about how dangerous things were getting. Because he knew what he was doing.

    Post 2008, Risk became important. So they got rid of the annoying expert guy and appointed a nice, clubable generalist.

    The bank is in the news at the moment. Apparently, their risk management isn’t top notch…
    Deutsche Bank seems to be in trouble now from what i can gather.
    Deutsche Bank lent a bunch of money to that American guy who used to front The Apprentice over there.
  • solarflaresolarflare Posts: 3,705
    Sean_F said:

    All that needs to be said about a vegan diet is that it's revolting, food with all the good bits taken out of it.

    As for fake sausages or steaks, made out of vegetable substitutes, I'd sooner eat orc excrement.

    Vegetarian orc excrement will be on the market soon, presumably.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 60,447
    DougSeal said:

    Sean_F said:

    Another story that seems worthy of a bit on discussion on here:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-65038587

    MI5 spy reveals secret 'unauthorised' IRA talks

    I say well done him, ballsy with personal risk from both sides, but paid off.

    I disagree. He was making promises that he had no means of implementing.
    And, that he probably agreed with as his personal view.
    He wasn’t making promises. I often say to opponents in litigation “I’ve got no instructions on this, so have to revert to my client, but hypothetically how would your client react to x as an offer”
    Yes, but he didn't say that - he inferred the long-term policy of the British government was a United Ireland, which it isn't.

    Of course you could create an argument to say that such a lie was beneficial to the peace process. But, if that was true, you'd also be pretty unhappy by now if you were Sinn Fein that after 30 years this still hadn't translated into actual policy, with no prospect that it will.
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 27,898
    biggles said:

    Foxy said:

    Where to retire:


    USA saving on the pensions there...
    It’s an interesting thought for Macron. If he can’t move the left hand data point to the right, maybe he can move the right hand data point to the left? A tax on non-sugary drinks? A (literal) drink/driving campaign?
    That is the British solution. The latest rise in pension age was cancelled owing to falling life expectancy.
    https://www.ft.com/content/e946e5c5-edd8-4d14-bf16-e66027860a84 (£££)
  • ChrisChris Posts: 11,749
    kinabalu said:

    Andy_JS said:

    ydoethur said:

    This is a bizarre story:

    Principal fired after Florida students shown Michelangelo statue
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-65071989

    It shows just how stupid de Santis is.

    Although I suppose he has effectively banned the showing of photos of himself and Trump under the same law on the ground they’re Cupid stunts.

    The United States is clearly in a very dark place at the moment. Both sides are equally to blame in my opinion.
    Hmm, dunno about this 'both sides as bad as each other' business. DeSantis is a horror, yes, but Trump is another league worse.
    I think he probably meant all those horrible black people were as bad as the Nazis.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 50,266
    dixiedean said:

    Despite the sanctions western economies are now suffering more than russia. And read this.

    the United States some have proposed to divide Ukraine between Poland and Russia Many senior US military and intelligence officials believe that Ukraine will no longer be able to emerge victorious from the current conflict. At the same time, they continue to advocate arms deliveries and cash payments to Kiev, although they admit that this aid will still not help Ukraine, since Russia vastly outnumbers it in resources, money and alliances with other major powers such as China and India. “Most of the Ukrainian army is already dead. Its best soldiers, trained in the United States, have either died or are out of action. Nobody cancels Ukrainian prowess, but Russia is likely to win anyway, thanks to overwhelming resources,” said the co-chair of the Center for American Security (AFPI), Lieutenant General Keith Kellogg. He believes that the most likely outcome of the conflict is a humiliating truce for Ukraine, as a result of which the country may cease to exist: "It's time to divide Ukraine: everything east of the Dnieper will go to Russia, and everything to the west - to Poland. Historically, these two countries controlled present-day Ukraine."

    3:24 PM · Mar 23, 2023

    ·

    237.7K

    Views

    https://twitter.com/PeImeniPusha/status/1638924658757210113?s=20

    No - we are giving Russia to Ukraine. Hence the Ukrainian/Republic of China border debate.
    Republic of China?
    Are we giving the PRC to Taiwan while we are at it?

    Yes. Since Putin has uncovered the SeKrit! Plans! For! WokeTransGaYTO! Taking! Over Ze! Vurld!…. It’s time to rip off the mask and go for it.

    Basic plan outlined here - https://youtu.be/LjogCytzX0s
  • bigglesbiggles Posts: 6,052

    biggles said:

    Foxy said:

    Where to retire:


    USA saving on the pensions there...
    It’s an interesting thought for Macron. If he can’t move the left hand data point to the right, maybe he can move the right hand data point to the left? A tax on non-sugary drinks? A (literal) drink/driving campaign?
    That is the British solution. The latest rise in pension age was cancelled owing to falling life expectancy.
    https://www.ft.com/content/e946e5c5-edd8-4d14-bf16-e66027860a84 (£££)
    Heartwarming to see us beat the French at something, patriotically turning down an extra year of pension.
  • ChrisChris Posts: 11,749
    MattW said:

    Chris said:

    Andy_JS said:

    ydoethur said:

    This is a bizarre story:

    Principal fired after Florida students shown Michelangelo statue
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-65071989

    It shows just how stupid de Santis is.

    Although I suppose he has effectively banned the showing of photos of himself and Trump under the same law on the ground they’re Cupid stunts.

    The United States is clearly in a very dark place at the moment. Both sides are equally to blame in my opinion.
    So hilarious, considering that the HOLY BIBLE explicitly says that the idea that nakedness is something to be ashamed of is a consequence of SIN!
    However, the central message of said Bible is about salvation from sin, so the aforementioned Yankee Doodles don't need to be obsessed any more :smile: .
    My point in a nutshell. (And if I remember correctly, that was a Ronnie Corbett line in the 1970s in a sketch about nudity.)
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 52,565
    Makes more sense, as we heard nothing in follow-up:

    "The movement of Russian troops from Nova Kakhovka on March 23 was a “massive rotation,” not a withdrawal, as previously reported, Ukraine's Southern Command spokesperson Natalia Humeniuk said."
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 27,898
    kle4 said:

    Nigelb said:

    Trump doesn’t drink. But he has a beer track advantage over Ron DeSantis.
    https://www.politico.com/news/2023/03/25/trump-desantis-gop-primary-00088730
    Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis’ pre-campaign campaign for president has hit the skids — particularly among key blocs of voters he’ll need to dethrone former President Donald Trump next year.

    Polls show Trump dominating his likely primary competitor among GOP voters in the so-called “beer track” — a shorthand for the cultural and socioeconomic characteristics of the bloc of voters with lower incomes and levels of educational attainment. While DeSantis is still the preferred candidate of high-income voters and those with college degrees, he is showing signs of bleeding there, too...

    To stem bleeding you need to take action - it's still early, but he needs to be more direct in why him and not Trump.

    If Trump is indicted soon most Republicans will be expending time and air on how hes innocent and it's a witch hunt and he needs support . If Desantis at that point tries to say no to Trump he'll be going against the grain.
    The dilemma for DeSantis is whether to fight Trump now, and risk defeat since he is outgunned, or keep relatively quiet in the hope of inheriting MAGA voters once Trump has left the scene in four years time, with the risk a better Republican might emerge. The other player in this 3-dimensional chess game is Joe Biden. DeSantis might see a weaker opponent like Kamala Harris in 2028 than the incumbent next year.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 50,266
    dixiedean said:

    Despite the sanctions western economies are now suffering more than russia. And read this.

    the United States some have proposed to divide Ukraine between Poland and Russia Many senior US military and intelligence officials believe that Ukraine will no longer be able to emerge victorious from the current conflict. At the same time, they continue to advocate arms deliveries and cash payments to Kiev, although they admit that this aid will still not help Ukraine, since Russia vastly outnumbers it in resources, money and alliances with other major powers such as China and India. “Most of the Ukrainian army is already dead. Its best soldiers, trained in the United States, have either died or are out of action. Nobody cancels Ukrainian prowess, but Russia is likely to win anyway, thanks to overwhelming resources,” said the co-chair of the Center for American Security (AFPI), Lieutenant General Keith Kellogg. He believes that the most likely outcome of the conflict is a humiliating truce for Ukraine, as a result of which the country may cease to exist: "It's time to divide Ukraine: everything east of the Dnieper will go to Russia, and everything to the west - to Poland. Historically, these two countries controlled present-day Ukraine."

    3:24 PM · Mar 23, 2023

    ·

    237.7K

    Views

    https://twitter.com/PeImeniPusha/status/1638924658757210113?s=20

    No - we are giving Russia to Ukraine. Hence the Ukrainian/Republic of China border debate.
    Republic of China?
    Are we giving the PRC to Taiwan while we are at it?

    Yes. Since Putin has uncovered the SeKrit! Plans! For! WokeTransGaYTO! Taking! Over Ze! Vurld!…. It’s time to rip off the mask and go for it.

    Basic plan outlined here - https://youtu.be/LjogCytzX0s

    Makes more sense, as we heard nothing in follow-up:

    "The movement of Russian troops from Nova Kakhovka on March 23 was a “massive rotation,” not a withdrawal, as previously reported, Ukraine's Southern Command spokesperson Natalia Humeniuk said."

    If the reports of casualties are correct, a lot of units must have passed the percentage of casualties, where they become ineffective.
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 27,898
    Non-UK, non-EU employment is shooting up since Brexit, according to this report which for some reason the government has included in its Covid round-up, with an annual growth rate of 22 per cent.
    https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/uk-payrolled-employments-by-nationality-region-and-industry-from-july-2014-to-december-2022/uk-payrolled-employments-by-nationality-region-and-industry-from-july-2014-to-december-2022
  • bigglesbiggles Posts: 6,052

    dixiedean said:

    Despite the sanctions western economies are now suffering more than russia. And read this.

    the United States some have proposed to divide Ukraine between Poland and Russia Many senior US military and intelligence officials believe that Ukraine will no longer be able to emerge victorious from the current conflict. At the same time, they continue to advocate arms deliveries and cash payments to Kiev, although they admit that this aid will still not help Ukraine, since Russia vastly outnumbers it in resources, money and alliances with other major powers such as China and India. “Most of the Ukrainian army is already dead. Its best soldiers, trained in the United States, have either died or are out of action. Nobody cancels Ukrainian prowess, but Russia is likely to win anyway, thanks to overwhelming resources,” said the co-chair of the Center for American Security (AFPI), Lieutenant General Keith Kellogg. He believes that the most likely outcome of the conflict is a humiliating truce for Ukraine, as a result of which the country may cease to exist: "It's time to divide Ukraine: everything east of the Dnieper will go to Russia, and everything to the west - to Poland. Historically, these two countries controlled present-day Ukraine."

    3:24 PM · Mar 23, 2023

    ·

    237.7K

    Views

    https://twitter.com/PeImeniPusha/status/1638924658757210113?s=20

    No - we are giving Russia to Ukraine. Hence the Ukrainian/Republic of China border debate.
    Republic of China?
    Are we giving the PRC to Taiwan while we are at it?

    Yes. Since Putin has uncovered the SeKrit! Plans! For! WokeTransGaYTO! Taking! Over Ze! Vurld!…. It’s time to rip off the mask and go for it.

    Basic plan outlined here - https://youtu.be/LjogCytzX0s

    Makes more sense, as we heard nothing in follow-up:

    "The movement of Russian troops from Nova Kakhovka on March 23 was a “massive rotation,” not a withdrawal, as previously reported, Ukraine's Southern Command spokesperson Natalia Humeniuk said."

    If the reports of casualties are correct, a lot of units must have passed the percentage of casualties, where they become ineffective.
    I demur. Ukraine/REPUBLIC of China border. Let’s turf out those Chinese communist guerrillas from Beijing while we are at it.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 32,557
    "J.K. Rowling
    @jk_rowling

    There are multiple videos of Kellie-Jay being assaulted. Women have become used to lies, threats of violence and outright denial of reality, but if you imagine anyone feels 'defeated', think again. Your men's rights activists showed the world exactly who they are. #LetWomenSpeak"

    https://twitter.com/jk_rowling/status/1639612603302395905
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 71,070
    Andy_JS said:

    ydoethur said:

    This is a bizarre story:

    Principal fired after Florida students shown Michelangelo statue
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-65071989

    It shows just how stupid de Santis is.

    Although I suppose he has effectively banned the showing of photos of himself and Trump under the same law on the ground they’re Cupid stunts.

    The United States is clearly in a very dark place at the moment. Both sides are equally to blame in my opinion.
    The ‘both sides’ meme is part of their problem.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 71,070
    DougSeal said:

    MattW said:

    Andy_JS said:

    ydoethur said:

    This is a bizarre story:

    Principal fired after Florida students shown Michelangelo statue
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-65071989

    It shows just how stupid de Santis is.

    Although I suppose he has effectively banned the showing of photos of himself and Trump under the same law on the ground they’re Cupid stunts.

    The United States is clearly in a very dark place at the moment. Both sides are equally to blame in my opinion.
    I love that the offended head of the school board is called "Barney Bishop III".

    Escapee from Bedrock.

    And that the BBC article only includes a picture of David's top half.
    It’s a body shaming thing. If you look closely at Michaelangelo’s David, it’s rich detail, the six pack, the veins in his hands…but no anus. So we are teaching young men that to achieve this famous exemplar of bodily perfection you must not be in possession of an anus. That and his tiny front bits. I’m not surprised it was banned.
    It was a chilly day when he posed.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 71,070

    DougSeal said:

    MattW said:

    Andy_JS said:

    ydoethur said:

    This is a bizarre story:

    Principal fired after Florida students shown Michelangelo statue
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-65071989

    It shows just how stupid de Santis is.

    Although I suppose he has effectively banned the showing of photos of himself and Trump under the same law on the ground they’re Cupid stunts.

    The United States is clearly in a very dark place at the moment. Both sides are equally to blame in my opinion.
    I love that the offended head of the school board is called "Barney Bishop III".

    Escapee from Bedrock.

    And that the BBC article only includes a picture of David's top half.
    It’s a body shaming thing. If you look closely at Michaelangelo’s David, it’s rich detail, the six pack, the veins in his hands…but no anus. So we are teaching young men that to achieve this famous exemplar of bodily perfection you must not be in possession of an anus. That and his tiny front bits. I’m not surprised it was banned.
    I always assumed he'd just been swimming in the North Sea.
    Would have sunk like a stone, though.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 71,070

    kle4 said:

    Nigelb said:

    Trump doesn’t drink. But he has a beer track advantage over Ron DeSantis.
    https://www.politico.com/news/2023/03/25/trump-desantis-gop-primary-00088730
    Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis’ pre-campaign campaign for president has hit the skids — particularly among key blocs of voters he’ll need to dethrone former President Donald Trump next year.

    Polls show Trump dominating his likely primary competitor among GOP voters in the so-called “beer track” — a shorthand for the cultural and socioeconomic characteristics of the bloc of voters with lower incomes and levels of educational attainment. While DeSantis is still the preferred candidate of high-income voters and those with college degrees, he is showing signs of bleeding there, too...

    To stem bleeding you need to take action - it's still early, but he needs to be more direct in why him and not Trump.

    If Trump is indicted soon most Republicans will be expending time and air on how hes innocent and it's a witch hunt and he needs support . If Desantis at that point tries to say no to Trump he'll be going against the grain.
    The dilemma for DeSantis is whether to fight Trump now, and risk defeat since he is outgunned, or keep relatively quiet in the hope of inheriting MAGA voters once Trump has left the scene in four years time, with the risk a better Republican might emerge. The other player in this 3-dimensional chess game is Joe Biden. DeSantis might see a weaker opponent like Kamala Harris in 2028 than the incumbent next year.
    I think he’s almost certainly running.
    And the opponents in 2028 might be a lot tougher - unless it’s an incumbent President Harris, it is unlikely to be her.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,100

    kle4 said:

    Nigelb said:

    Trump doesn’t drink. But he has a beer track advantage over Ron DeSantis.
    https://www.politico.com/news/2023/03/25/trump-desantis-gop-primary-00088730
    Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis’ pre-campaign campaign for president has hit the skids — particularly among key blocs of voters he’ll need to dethrone former President Donald Trump next year.

    Polls show Trump dominating his likely primary competitor among GOP voters in the so-called “beer track” — a shorthand for the cultural and socioeconomic characteristics of the bloc of voters with lower incomes and levels of educational attainment. While DeSantis is still the preferred candidate of high-income voters and those with college degrees, he is showing signs of bleeding there, too...

    To stem bleeding you need to take action - it's still early, but he needs to be more direct in why him and not Trump.

    If Trump is indicted soon most Republicans will be expending time and air on how hes innocent and it's a witch hunt and he needs support . If Desantis at that point tries to say no to Trump he'll be going against the grain.
    The dilemma for DeSantis is whether to fight Trump now, and risk defeat since he is outgunned, or keep relatively quiet in the hope of inheriting MAGA voters once Trump has left the scene in four years time, with the risk a better Republican might emerge. The other player in this 3-dimensional chess game is Joe Biden. DeSantis might see a weaker opponent like Kamala Harris in 2028 than the incumbent next year.
    True, and he's young and has plenty of time. Probably. He was riding high after re-election, and anything could happen in the next 6 years - he should go for it whilst he knows he can.
  • ohnotnowohnotnow Posts: 3,785

    Sean_F said:

    All that needs to be said about a vegan diet is that it's revolting, food with all the good bits taken out of it.

    As for fake sausages or steaks, made out of vegetable substitutes, I'd sooner eat orc excrement.

    Vegetarian orc excrement will be on the market soon, presumably.
    'Beyond Orc'.
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 42,838

    DougSeal said:

    MattW said:

    Andy_JS said:

    ydoethur said:

    This is a bizarre story:

    Principal fired after Florida students shown Michelangelo statue
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-65071989

    It shows just how stupid de Santis is.

    Although I suppose he has effectively banned the showing of photos of himself and Trump under the same law on the ground they’re Cupid stunts.

    The United States is clearly in a very dark place at the moment. Both sides are equally to blame in my opinion.
    I love that the offended head of the school board is called "Barney Bishop III".

    Escapee from Bedrock.

    And that the BBC article only includes a picture of David's top half.
    It’s a body shaming thing. If you look closely at Michaelangelo’s David, it’s rich detail, the six pack, the veins in his hands…but no anus. So we are teaching young men that to achieve this famous exemplar of bodily perfection you must not be in possession of an anus. That and his tiny front bits. I’m not surprised it was banned.
    I always assumed he'd just been swimming in the North Sea.
    I thought the crabs had died off? Maybe it wasn't off Middlesborough or Hartlepool, though.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 60,447
    I have ordered the pork belly with dauphinoise potatoes, carrots and a red wine jus. A pint of Surrey Nirvana to wash it down.

    It will probably be the Baileys Creme Brulee for dessert. Maybe the cheese board too with a port.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 50,266
    biggles said:

    dixiedean said:

    Despite the sanctions western economies are now suffering more than russia. And read this.

    the United States some have proposed to divide Ukraine between Poland and Russia Many senior US military and intelligence officials believe that Ukraine will no longer be able to emerge victorious from the current conflict. At the same time, they continue to advocate arms deliveries and cash payments to Kiev, although they admit that this aid will still not help Ukraine, since Russia vastly outnumbers it in resources, money and alliances with other major powers such as China and India. “Most of the Ukrainian army is already dead. Its best soldiers, trained in the United States, have either died or are out of action. Nobody cancels Ukrainian prowess, but Russia is likely to win anyway, thanks to overwhelming resources,” said the co-chair of the Center for American Security (AFPI), Lieutenant General Keith Kellogg. He believes that the most likely outcome of the conflict is a humiliating truce for Ukraine, as a result of which the country may cease to exist: "It's time to divide Ukraine: everything east of the Dnieper will go to Russia, and everything to the west - to Poland. Historically, these two countries controlled present-day Ukraine."

    3:24 PM · Mar 23, 2023

    ·

    237.7K

    Views

    https://twitter.com/PeImeniPusha/status/1638924658757210113?s=20

    No - we are giving Russia to Ukraine. Hence the Ukrainian/Republic of China border debate.
    Republic of China?
    Are we giving the PRC to Taiwan while we are at it?

    Yes. Since Putin has uncovered the SeKrit! Plans! For! WokeTransGaYTO! Taking! Over Ze! Vurld!…. It’s time to rip off the mask and go for it.

    Basic plan outlined here - https://youtu.be/LjogCytzX0s

    Makes more sense, as we heard nothing in follow-up:

    "The movement of Russian troops from Nova Kakhovka on March 23 was a “massive rotation,” not a withdrawal, as previously reported, Ukraine's Southern Command spokesperson Natalia Humeniuk said."

    If the reports of casualties are correct, a lot of units must have passed the percentage of casualties, where they become ineffective.
    I demur. Ukraine/REPUBLIC of China border. Let’s turf out those Chinese communist guerrillas from Beijing while we are at it.
    That’s the sekrit plan. Don’t tell ‘im, Pike!
  • algarkirkalgarkirk Posts: 12,497
    Andy_JS said:

    ydoethur said:

    This is a bizarre story:

    Principal fired after Florida students shown Michelangelo statue
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-65071989

    It shows just how stupid de Santis is.

    Although I suppose he has effectively banned the showing of photos of himself and Trump under the same law on the ground they’re Cupid stunts.

    The United States is clearly in a very dark place at the moment. Both sides are equally to blame in my opinion.
    It may be worth also considering the way in which UK culture differs. The USA is increasingly deferential to extremist Christian opinion (normal Christians are just middling sorts like everyone else, and David is a product of a deeply Christian culture). The UK in the school system is highly deferential to Islamic opinion, while being open to ludicrous degrees of contempt for middle of the road Christianity.

  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 52,565

    dixiedean said:

    Despite the sanctions western economies are now suffering more than russia. And read this.

    the United States some have proposed to divide Ukraine between Poland and Russia Many senior US military and intelligence officials believe that Ukraine will no longer be able to emerge victorious from the current conflict. At the same time, they continue to advocate arms deliveries and cash payments to Kiev, although they admit that this aid will still not help Ukraine, since Russia vastly outnumbers it in resources, money and alliances with other major powers such as China and India. “Most of the Ukrainian army is already dead. Its best soldiers, trained in the United States, have either died or are out of action. Nobody cancels Ukrainian prowess, but Russia is likely to win anyway, thanks to overwhelming resources,” said the co-chair of the Center for American Security (AFPI), Lieutenant General Keith Kellogg. He believes that the most likely outcome of the conflict is a humiliating truce for Ukraine, as a result of which the country may cease to exist: "It's time to divide Ukraine: everything east of the Dnieper will go to Russia, and everything to the west - to Poland. Historically, these two countries controlled present-day Ukraine."

    3:24 PM · Mar 23, 2023

    ·

    237.7K

    Views

    https://twitter.com/PeImeniPusha/status/1638924658757210113?s=20

    No - we are giving Russia to Ukraine. Hence the Ukrainian/Republic of China border debate.
    Republic of China?
    Are we giving the PRC to Taiwan while we are at it?

    Yes. Since Putin has uncovered the SeKrit! Plans! For! WokeTransGaYTO! Taking! Over Ze! Vurld!…. It’s time to rip off the mask and go for it.

    Basic plan outlined here - https://youtu.be/LjogCytzX0s

    Makes more sense, as we heard nothing in follow-up:

    "The movement of Russian troops from Nova Kakhovka on March 23 was a “massive rotation,” not a withdrawal, as previously reported, Ukraine's Southern Command spokesperson Natalia Humeniuk said."

    If the reports of casualties are correct, a lot of units must have passed the percentage of casualties, where they become ineffective.
    Topping up the meat grinder....
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 71,070
    edited March 2023
    ohnotnow said:

    Sean_F said:

    All that needs to be said about a vegan diet is that it's revolting, food with all the good bits taken out of it.

    As for fake sausages or steaks, made out of vegetable substitutes, I'd sooner eat orc excrement.

    Vegetarian orc excrement will be on the market soon, presumably.
    'Beyond Orc'.
    It’s more likely to be microbial fermentation products.
    You can make almost anything out of them, and the taste/texture problem is simply a matter of product development.

    For example:
    https://www.solein.com/

    You can grow the stuff anywhere - no agricultural land required; just cheap energy - so somewhere like Saudi Arabia is likely to be self sufficient in food within a decade or so.

    Give it enough time, and even Casino would be fooled by blinded taste tests.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 60,447
    algarkirk said:

    Andy_JS said:

    ydoethur said:

    This is a bizarre story:

    Principal fired after Florida students shown Michelangelo statue
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-65071989

    It shows just how stupid de Santis is.

    Although I suppose he has effectively banned the showing of photos of himself and Trump under the same law on the ground they’re Cupid stunts.

    The United States is clearly in a very dark place at the moment. Both sides are equally to blame in my opinion.
    It may be worth also considering the way in which UK culture differs. The USA is increasingly deferential to extremist Christian opinion (normal Christians are just middling sorts like everyone else, and David is a product of a deeply Christian culture). The UK in the school system is highly deferential to Islamic opinion, while being open to ludicrous degrees of contempt for middle of the road Christianity.

    Well, we deported all our religious nutters to our American colonies in the 17th Century. Long game.

    At least the Australians stopped being criminal when they got there.

    Sort of.
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 27,898
    edited March 2023

    I have ordered the pork belly with dauphinoise potatoes, carrots and a red wine jus. A pint of Surrey Nirvana to wash it down.

    It will probably be the Baileys Creme Brulee for dessert. Maybe the cheese board too with a port.

    ‘Now,’ he turned back to the menu, ‘I myself will accompany mademoiselle with the caviar, but then I would like a very small “tournedos”, underdone, with “sauce Béarnaise” and a “cœur d’artichaut”. While mademoiselle is enjoying the strawberries, I will have half an avocado pear with a little French dressing.
    Casino Royale (raising the suspicion that Ian Fleming had seen avocado pears on a fancy foreign menu but had actually ordered one).
  • SeaShantyIrish2SeaShantyIrish2 Posts: 17,559
    kinabalu said:

    Andy_JS said:

    ydoethur said:

    This is a bizarre story:

    Principal fired after Florida students shown Michelangelo statue
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-65071989

    It shows just how stupid de Santis is.

    Although I suppose he has effectively banned the showing of photos of himself and Trump under the same law on the ground they’re Cupid stunts.

    The United States is clearly in a very dark place at the moment. Both sides are equally to blame in my opinion.
    Hmm, dunno about this 'both sides as bad as each other' business. DeSantis is a horror, yes, but Trump is another league worse.
    DeSantis is WORSE than Trump. Because he is smarter, politically MUCH savvier, and way less inclined to self-defeating stupidity. (RDS preferring politically-profitable stupidity.)
  • CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 60,216
    Interesting:



    Back with another strange map of the 2021 Census.

    This time it's the second most popular answer for the question "What is your main language?".

    I really love the fact Yiddish is on this map, but I'll confess I wasn't quite expecting it to be 𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘳𝘦.


    https://twitter.com/christicorvus/status/1639182767484473349
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 71,070

    I have ordered the pork belly with dauphinoise potatoes, carrots and a red wine jus. A pint of Surrey Nirvana to wash it down.

    It will probably be the Baileys Creme Brulee for dessert. Maybe the cheese board too with a port.

    ‘Now,’ he turned back to the menu, ‘I myself will accompany mademoiselle with the caviar, but then I would like a very small “tournedos”, underdone, with “sauce Béarnaise” and a “cœur d’artichaut”. While mademoiselle is enjoying the strawberries, I will have half an avocado pear with a little French dressing.
    Casino Royale (raising the suspicion that Ian Fleming had seen avocado pears on a fancy foreign menu but had actually ordered one).
    Bond’s meal is rather healthier.
  • Wulfrun_PhilWulfrun_Phil Posts: 4,780

    We finally got around to renewing our passports this week. (I haven't travelled abroad for years.)

    We'd thought maybe Paris, to have a nice weekend break.

    Hmmm. Nope.

    No Paris will be fine. In 2024. You'll be lucky to get your new passport back by 2023.

  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 52,565

    algarkirk said:

    Andy_JS said:

    ydoethur said:

    This is a bizarre story:

    Principal fired after Florida students shown Michelangelo statue
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-65071989

    It shows just how stupid de Santis is.

    Although I suppose he has effectively banned the showing of photos of himself and Trump under the same law on the ground they’re Cupid stunts.

    The United States is clearly in a very dark place at the moment. Both sides are equally to blame in my opinion.
    It may be worth also considering the way in which UK culture differs. The USA is increasingly deferential to extremist Christian opinion (normal Christians are just middling sorts like everyone else, and David is a product of a deeply Christian culture). The UK in the school system is highly deferential to Islamic opinion, while being open to ludicrous degrees of contempt for middle of the road Christianity.

    Well, we deported all our religious nutters to our American colonies in the 17th Century. Long game.

    At least the Australians stopped being criminal when they got there.

    Sort of.
    *cough*

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_Australian_ball-tampering_scandal
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 38,811
    Taz said:

    Taz said:

    Unpopular said:

    ydoethur said:

    Last night’s Picard. ❤️❤️❤️

    There wasn’t a single scene that I didn’t love or fangirled over.

    This season of Picard isn’t just one of the greatest seasons of sci-fi it is one of the greatest seasons of TV.

    You liked The Last Jedi too...
    It was good but it was no SPECTRE.
    Last Jedi was the best of the three new ones in my opinion but the trilogy was incredibly disjointed.
    @TheScreamingEagles are you a Trekkie ? Would someone who is not a Trekkie enjoy it too or do you need to know endless continuity references ?
    Yes I am a Trekkie.

    Non Trekkies would like it but some won’t due to all the plot points for all the other series and films.
    Thanks.

    I love TOS, and have enjoyed Voyager and TNG myself.

    Just wondering how accessible it was.
    You probably need to have watched DS9 as it's highly relevant to this season.
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 42,838
    Nigelb said:

    ohnotnow said:

    Sean_F said:

    All that needs to be said about a vegan diet is that it's revolting, food with all the good bits taken out of it.

    As for fake sausages or steaks, made out of vegetable substitutes, I'd sooner eat orc excrement.

    Vegetarian orc excrement will be on the market soon, presumably.
    'Beyond Orc'.
    It’s more likely to be microbial fermentation products.
    You can make almost anything out of them, and the taste/texture problem is simply a matter of product development.

    For example:
    https://www.solein.com/

    You can grow the stuff anywhere - no agricultural land required; just cheap energy - so somewhere like Saudi Arabia is likely to be self sufficient in food within a decade or so.

    Give it enough time, and even Casino would be fooled by blinded taste tests.
    Bread, cheese, beer - all microbially fermented ... even Casino wouldn't say no to a ploughperson's lunch.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 71,070

    kinabalu said:

    Andy_JS said:

    ydoethur said:

    This is a bizarre story:

    Principal fired after Florida students shown Michelangelo statue
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-65071989

    It shows just how stupid de Santis is.

    Although I suppose he has effectively banned the showing of photos of himself and Trump under the same law on the ground they’re Cupid stunts.

    The United States is clearly in a very dark place at the moment. Both sides are equally to blame in my opinion.
    Hmm, dunno about this 'both sides as bad as each other' business. DeSantis is a horror, yes, but Trump is another league worse.
    DeSantis is WORSE than Trump. Because he is smarter, politically MUCH savvier, and way less inclined to self-defeating stupidity. (RDS preferring politically-profitable stupidity.)
    Once in power, yes.
    But it’s still an open question whether he had the political skills for a national campaign. On that score, Trump is for now the bigger threat.
  • bigglesbiggles Posts: 6,052
    edited March 2023
    Nigelb said:

    ohnotnow said:

    Sean_F said:

    All that needs to be said about a vegan diet is that it's revolting, food with all the good bits taken out of it.

    As for fake sausages or steaks, made out of vegetable substitutes, I'd sooner eat orc excrement.

    Vegetarian orc excrement will be on the market soon, presumably.
    'Beyond Orc'.
    It’s more likely to be microbial fermentation products.
    You can make almost anything out of them, and the taste/texture problem is simply a matter of product development.

    For example:
    https://www.solein.com/

    You can grow the stuff anywhere - no agricultural land required; just cheap energy - so somewhere like Saudi Arabia is likely to be self sufficient in food within a decade or so.

    Give it enough time, and even Casino would be fooled by blinded taste tests.
    The hard part will be recreating the imperfections. The random way the fat is distributed in a rib-eye for example. I can see mince, or even a decent fillet steak, and definitely chicken, being pan made fairly soon though. I guess real chicken becomes an expensive luxury.
  • algarkirkalgarkirk Posts: 12,497

    I have ordered the pork belly with dauphinoise potatoes, carrots and a red wine jus. A pint of Surrey Nirvana to wash it down.

    It will probably be the Baileys Creme Brulee for dessert. Maybe the cheese board too with a port.

    ‘Now,’ he turned back to the menu, ‘I myself will accompany mademoiselle with the caviar, but then I would like a very small “tournedos”, underdone, with “sauce Béarnaise” and a “cœur d’artichaut”. While mademoiselle is enjoying the strawberries, I will have half an avocado pear with a little French dressing.
    Casino Royale (raising the suspicion that Ian Fleming had seen avocado pears on a fancy foreign menu but had actually ordered one).


    https://twitter.com/MattCartoonist/status/1639330750628769793



  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 27,898

    Interesting:



    Back with another strange map of the 2021 Census.

    This time it's the second most popular answer for the question "What is your main language?".

    I really love the fact Yiddish is on this map, but I'll confess I wasn't quite expecting it to be 𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘳𝘦.


    https://twitter.com/christicorvus/status/1639182767484473349

    "There" being Canvey Island, apparently. Broxtowe is top for Hungarian, according to the thread, once the seat of @NickPalmer before he became an ex-MP.

    Shalom, Canvey! Welcome to the promised land
    In search of a new life and cheaper housing, a number of London’s orthodox Jews are relocating to Canvey Island in Essex.

    https://www.theguardian.com/global/2017/oct/08/shalom-canvey-island-haredi-jews-moving-to-essex (from 2017)
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 60,447

    I have ordered the pork belly with dauphinoise potatoes, carrots and a red wine jus. A pint of Surrey Nirvana to wash it down.

    It will probably be the Baileys Creme Brulee for dessert. Maybe the cheese board too with a port.

    ‘Now,’ he turned back to the menu, ‘I myself will accompany mademoiselle with the caviar, but then I would like a very small “tournedos”, underdone, with “sauce Béarnaise” and a “cœur d’artichaut”. While mademoiselle is enjoying the strawberries, I will have half an avocado pear with a little French dressing.
    Casino Royale (raising the suspicion that Ian Fleming had seen avocado pears on a fancy foreign menu but had actually ordered one).
    I have actually ordered this.

    I'm wondering how many pages I can tease out of this with two kids in tow


  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 71,070
    Carnyx said:

    Nigelb said:

    ohnotnow said:

    Sean_F said:

    All that needs to be said about a vegan diet is that it's revolting, food with all the good bits taken out of it.

    As for fake sausages or steaks, made out of vegetable substitutes, I'd sooner eat orc excrement.

    Vegetarian orc excrement will be on the market soon, presumably.
    'Beyond Orc'.
    It’s more likely to be microbial fermentation products.
    You can make almost anything out of them, and the taste/texture problem is simply a matter of product development.

    For example:
    https://www.solein.com/

    You can grow the stuff anywhere - no agricultural land required; just cheap energy - so somewhere like Saudi Arabia is likely to be self sufficient in food within a decade or so.

    Give it enough time, and even Casino would be fooled by blinded taste tests.
    Bread, cheese, beer - all microbially fermented ... even Casino wouldn't say no to a ploughperson's lunch.
    Absolutely.
    But the pressures of growing population in regions with limited agricultural land (or fresh water), coupled with plentiful cheap energy, and the development of food processing technology, make it a huge new commercial opportunity.

    Just a question of how long it takes.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 60,447
    Carnyx said:

    Nigelb said:

    ohnotnow said:

    Sean_F said:

    All that needs to be said about a vegan diet is that it's revolting, food with all the good bits taken out of it.

    As for fake sausages or steaks, made out of vegetable substitutes, I'd sooner eat orc excrement.

    Vegetarian orc excrement will be on the market soon, presumably.
    'Beyond Orc'.
    It’s more likely to be microbial fermentation products.
    You can make almost anything out of them, and the taste/texture problem is simply a matter of product development.

    For example:
    https://www.solein.com/

    You can grow the stuff anywhere - no agricultural land required; just cheap energy - so somewhere like Saudi Arabia is likely to be self sufficient in food within a decade or so.

    Give it enough time, and even Casino would be fooled by blinded taste tests.
    Bread, cheese, beer - all microbially fermented ... even Casino wouldn't say no to a ploughperson's lunch.
    Ploughperson?

    Mate, FFS.
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 42,838
    edited March 2023
    Nigelb said:

    Carnyx said:

    Nigelb said:

    ohnotnow said:

    Sean_F said:

    All that needs to be said about a vegan diet is that it's revolting, food with all the good bits taken out of it.

    As for fake sausages or steaks, made out of vegetable substitutes, I'd sooner eat orc excrement.

    Vegetarian orc excrement will be on the market soon, presumably.
    'Beyond Orc'.
    It’s more likely to be microbial fermentation products.
    You can make almost anything out of them, and the taste/texture problem is simply a matter of product development.

    For example:
    https://www.solein.com/

    You can grow the stuff anywhere - no agricultural land required; just cheap energy - so somewhere like Saudi Arabia is likely to be self sufficient in food within a decade or so.

    Give it enough time, and even Casino would be fooled by blinded taste tests.
    Bread, cheese, beer - all microbially fermented ... even Casino wouldn't say no to a ploughperson's lunch.
    Absolutely.
    But the pressures of growing population in regions with limited agricultural land (or fresh water), coupled with plentiful cheap energy, and the development of food processing technology, make it a huge new commercial opportunity.

    Just a question of how long it takes.
    Indeed.

    Had tofu in our stir fried vegetables and rice last night, with stilton for afters ... as for the woke stuff, we had pheasant on Monday.
  • DougSealDougSeal Posts: 12,541

    Carnyx said:

    Nigelb said:

    ohnotnow said:

    Sean_F said:

    All that needs to be said about a vegan diet is that it's revolting, food with all the good bits taken out of it.

    As for fake sausages or steaks, made out of vegetable substitutes, I'd sooner eat orc excrement.

    Vegetarian orc excrement will be on the market soon, presumably.
    'Beyond Orc'.
    It’s more likely to be microbial fermentation products.
    You can make almost anything out of them, and the taste/texture problem is simply a matter of product development.

    For example:
    https://www.solein.com/

    You can grow the stuff anywhere - no agricultural land required; just cheap energy - so somewhere like Saudi Arabia is likely to be self sufficient in food within a decade or so.

    Give it enough time, and even Casino would be fooled by blinded taste tests.
    Bread, cheese, beer - all microbially fermented ... even Casino wouldn't say no to a ploughperson's lunch.
    Ploughperson?

    Mate, FFS.
    We need to talk about your less than gender inclusive language. The “m” word can be deeply offensive. Use something more appropriate like “chum” or “comrade”.
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 27,898

    I have ordered the pork belly with dauphinoise potatoes, carrots and a red wine jus. A pint of Surrey Nirvana to wash it down.

    It will probably be the Baileys Creme Brulee for dessert. Maybe the cheese board too with a port.

    ‘Now,’ he turned back to the menu, ‘I myself will accompany mademoiselle with the caviar, but then I would like a very small “tournedos”, underdone, with “sauce Béarnaise” and a “cœur d’artichaut”. While mademoiselle is enjoying the strawberries, I will have half an avocado pear with a little French dressing.
    Casino Royale (raising the suspicion that Ian Fleming had seen avocado pears on a fancy foreign menu but had actually ordered one).
    Oops. Wrecked my smartarsery by not proofreading. The suspicion is Fleming had *never* actually ordered an avocado pear, since James Bond seems to be having it as a dessert, "while mademoiselle is enjoying the strawberries".
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 42,838
    DougSeal said:

    Carnyx said:

    Nigelb said:

    ohnotnow said:

    Sean_F said:

    All that needs to be said about a vegan diet is that it's revolting, food with all the good bits taken out of it.

    As for fake sausages or steaks, made out of vegetable substitutes, I'd sooner eat orc excrement.

    Vegetarian orc excrement will be on the market soon, presumably.
    'Beyond Orc'.
    It’s more likely to be microbial fermentation products.
    You can make almost anything out of them, and the taste/texture problem is simply a matter of product development.

    For example:
    https://www.solein.com/

    You can grow the stuff anywhere - no agricultural land required; just cheap energy - so somewhere like Saudi Arabia is likely to be self sufficient in food within a decade or so.

    Give it enough time, and even Casino would be fooled by blinded taste tests.
    Bread, cheese, beer - all microbially fermented ... even Casino wouldn't say no to a ploughperson's lunch.
    Ploughperson?

    Mate, FFS.
    We need to talk about your less than gender inclusive language. The “m” word can be deeply offensive. Use something more appropriate like “chum” or “comrade”.
    I entirely agree. And lunch is very, erm, elitist.

    HInd's piece would do me and Malcolm fine as a name for the meal - but the southron would not understand.
  • carnforthcarnforth Posts: 4,587

    I have ordered the pork belly with dauphinoise potatoes, carrots and a red wine jus. A pint of Surrey Nirvana to wash it down.

    It will probably be the Baileys Creme Brulee for dessert. Maybe the cheese board too with a port.

    ‘Now,’ he turned back to the menu, ‘I myself will accompany mademoiselle with the caviar, but then I would like a very small “tournedos”, underdone, with “sauce Béarnaise” and a “cœur d’artichaut”. While mademoiselle is enjoying the strawberries, I will have half an avocado pear with a little French dressing.
    Casino Royale (raising the suspicion that Ian Fleming had seen avocado pears on a fancy foreign menu but had actually ordered one).
    Oops. Wrecked my smartarsery by not proofreading. The suspicion is Fleming had *never* actually ordered an avocado pear, since James Bond seems to be having it as a dessert, "while mademoiselle is enjoying the strawberries".
    If he thought it were sweet, why would he be having french dressing on it?
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 27,898
    carnforth said:

    I have ordered the pork belly with dauphinoise potatoes, carrots and a red wine jus. A pint of Surrey Nirvana to wash it down.

    It will probably be the Baileys Creme Brulee for dessert. Maybe the cheese board too with a port.

    ‘Now,’ he turned back to the menu, ‘I myself will accompany mademoiselle with the caviar, but then I would like a very small “tournedos”, underdone, with “sauce Béarnaise” and a “cœur d’artichaut”. While mademoiselle is enjoying the strawberries, I will have half an avocado pear with a little French dressing.
    Casino Royale (raising the suspicion that Ian Fleming had seen avocado pears on a fancy foreign menu but had actually ordered one).
    Oops. Wrecked my smartarsery by not proofreading. The suspicion is Fleming had *never* actually ordered an avocado pear, since James Bond seems to be having it as a dessert, "while mademoiselle is enjoying the strawberries".
    If he thought it were sweet, why would he be having french dressing on it?
    Because that is what Ian Fleming had seen on some poncey French restaurant's menu.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 50,266

    I have ordered the pork belly with dauphinoise potatoes, carrots and a red wine jus. A pint of Surrey Nirvana to wash it down.

    It will probably be the Baileys Creme Brulee for dessert. Maybe the cheese board too with a port.

    ‘Now,’ he turned back to the menu, ‘I myself will accompany mademoiselle with the caviar, but then I would like a very small “tournedos”, underdone, with “sauce Béarnaise” and a “cœur d’artichaut”. While mademoiselle is enjoying the strawberries, I will have half an avocado pear with a little French dressing.
    Casino Royale (raising the suspicion that Ian Fleming had seen avocado pears on a fancy foreign menu but had actually ordered one).
    Oops. Wrecked my smartarsery by not proofreading. The suspicion is Fleming had *never* actually ordered an avocado pear, since James Bond seems to be having it as a dessert, "while mademoiselle is enjoying the strawberries".
    Indeed.

    In the other hand, Googling for “avocado dessert“ finds quite a few recipes.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 50,266

    carnforth said:

    I have ordered the pork belly with dauphinoise potatoes, carrots and a red wine jus. A pint of Surrey Nirvana to wash it down.

    It will probably be the Baileys Creme Brulee for dessert. Maybe the cheese board too with a port.

    ‘Now,’ he turned back to the menu, ‘I myself will accompany mademoiselle with the caviar, but then I would like a very small “tournedos”, underdone, with “sauce Béarnaise” and a “cœur d’artichaut”. While mademoiselle is enjoying the strawberries, I will have half an avocado pear with a little French dressing.
    Casino Royale (raising the suspicion that Ian Fleming had seen avocado pears on a fancy foreign menu but had actually ordered one).
    Oops. Wrecked my smartarsery by not proofreading. The suspicion is Fleming had *never* actually ordered an avocado pear, since James Bond seems to be having it as a dessert, "while mademoiselle is enjoying the strawberries".
    If he thought it were sweet, why would he be having french dressing on it?
    Because that is what Ian Fleming had seen on some poncey French restaurant's menu.
    Given he was supposed to have pretty lived in the bar at Scott’s in Mayfair, at one point, he should have been fairly familiar with fine dining.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 28,368
    edited March 2023

    I have ordered the pork belly with dauphinoise potatoes, carrots and a red wine jus. A pint of Surrey Nirvana to wash it down.

    It will probably be the Baileys Creme Brulee for dessert. Maybe the cheese board too with a port.

    What no photos? Anyway, welcome back Leon.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 32,557
    Julie Birchill's latest article.

    "How we gave up on work
    Lockdown and working from home have made us workshy and self-indulgent."

    https://www.spiked-online.com/2023/03/20/how-we-gave-up-on-work/
  • bigglesbiggles Posts: 6,052

    I have ordered the pork belly with dauphinoise potatoes, carrots and a red wine jus. A pint of Surrey Nirvana to wash it down.

    It will probably be the Baileys Creme Brulee for dessert. Maybe the cheese board too with a port.

    ‘Now,’ he turned back to the menu, ‘I myself will accompany mademoiselle with the caviar, but then I would like a very small “tournedos”, underdone, with “sauce Béarnaise” and a “cœur d’artichaut”. While mademoiselle is enjoying the strawberries, I will have half an avocado pear with a little French dressing.
    Casino Royale (raising the suspicion that Ian Fleming had seen avocado pears on a fancy foreign menu but had actually ordered one).
    Oops. Wrecked my smartarsery by not proofreading. The suspicion is Fleming had *never* actually ordered an avocado pear, since James Bond seems to be having it as a dessert, "while mademoiselle is enjoying the strawberries".
    Indeed.

    In the other hand, Googling for “avocado dessert“ finds quite a few recipes.
    Not sure, I always took it that Bond was having an extra savoury course while she had a girly desert. Bit like the Flat Iron chain where years ago I concluded that rather than having pudding with the rest of the table, you should have another steak. With no sides, it’s about the same cost.
  • boulayboulay Posts: 5,486

    Interesting:



    Back with another strange map of the 2021 Census.

    This time it's the second most popular answer for the question "What is your main language?".

    I really love the fact Yiddish is on this map, but I'll confess I wasn't quite expecting it to be 𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘳𝘦.


    https://twitter.com/christicorvus/status/1639182767484473349

    "There" being Canvey Island, apparently. Broxtowe is top for Hungarian, according to the thread, once the seat of @NickPalmer before he became an ex-MP.

    Shalom, Canvey! Welcome to the promised land
    In search of a new life and cheaper housing, a number of London’s orthodox Jews are relocating to Canvey Island in Essex.

    https://www.theguardian.com/global/2017/oct/08/shalom-canvey-island-haredi-jews-moving-to-essex (from 2017)
    They need to rename it “Oy vey Island”.
  • OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 33,431

    Interesting:



    Back with another strange map of the 2021 Census.

    This time it's the second most popular answer for the question "What is your main language?".

    I really love the fact Yiddish is on this map, but I'll confess I wasn't quite expecting it to be 𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘳𝘦.


    https://twitter.com/christicorvus/status/1639182767484473349

    "There" being Canvey Island, apparently. Broxtowe is top for Hungarian, according to the thread, once the seat of @NickPalmer before he became an ex-MP.

    Shalom, Canvey! Welcome to the promised land
    In search of a new life and cheaper housing, a number of London’s orthodox Jews are relocating to Canvey Island in Essex.

    https://www.theguardian.com/global/2017/oct/08/shalom-canvey-island-haredi-jews-moving-to-essex (from 2017)
    Settling in quite happily apparently. The odd spat, but nothing serious.
  • noneoftheabovenoneoftheabove Posts: 22,822
    Andy_JS said:

    Julie Birchill's latest article.

    "How we gave up on work
    Lockdown and working from home have made us workshy and self-indulgent."

    https://www.spiked-online.com/2023/03/20/how-we-gave-up-on-work/

    Send her down pit for six months hard labour.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 60,447

    I have ordered the pork belly with dauphinoise potatoes, carrots and a red wine jus. A pint of Surrey Nirvana to wash it down.

    It will probably be the Baileys Creme Brulee for dessert. Maybe the cheese board too with a port.

    What no photos? Anyway, welcome back Leon.
    Here's the main.


  • BurgessianBurgessian Posts: 2,750
    kle4 said:

    kle4 said:

    Nigelb said:

    Trump doesn’t drink. But he has a beer track advantage over Ron DeSantis.
    https://www.politico.com/news/2023/03/25/trump-desantis-gop-primary-00088730
    Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis’ pre-campaign campaign for president has hit the skids — particularly among key blocs of voters he’ll need to dethrone former President Donald Trump next year.

    Polls show Trump dominating his likely primary competitor among GOP voters in the so-called “beer track” — a shorthand for the cultural and socioeconomic characteristics of the bloc of voters with lower incomes and levels of educational attainment. While DeSantis is still the preferred candidate of high-income voters and those with college degrees, he is showing signs of bleeding there, too...

    To stem bleeding you need to take action - it's still early, but he needs to be more direct in why him and not Trump.

    If Trump is indicted soon most Republicans will be expending time and air on how hes innocent and it's a witch hunt and he needs support . If Desantis at that point tries to say no to Trump he'll be going against the grain.
    The dilemma for DeSantis is whether to fight Trump now, and risk defeat since he is outgunned, or keep relatively quiet in the hope of inheriting MAGA voters once Trump has left the scene in four years time, with the risk a better Republican might emerge. The other player in this 3-dimensional chess game is Joe Biden. DeSantis might see a weaker opponent like Kamala Harris in 2028 than the incumbent next year.
    True, and he's young and has plenty of time. Probably. He was riding high after re-election, and anything could happen in the next 6 years - he should go for it whilst he knows he can.
    It's worth noting that quite a few (most, in fact) Republican presidential candidates in recent years have had trial runs for the nomination before securing it. Romney, McCain, Dole, Bush Snr, Reagan for example. There's not really that much downside for DeSantis running against Trump so long as he acquits himself reasonably.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 28,368

    I have ordered the pork belly with dauphinoise potatoes, carrots and a red wine jus. A pint of Surrey Nirvana to wash it down.

    It will probably be the Baileys Creme Brulee for dessert. Maybe the cheese board too with a port.

    What no photos? Anyway, welcome back Leon.
    Here's the main.


    Is that vegan "pork"?
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 60,447

    I have ordered the pork belly with dauphinoise potatoes, carrots and a red wine jus. A pint of Surrey Nirvana to wash it down.

    It will probably be the Baileys Creme Brulee for dessert. Maybe the cheese board too with a port.

    What no photos? Anyway, welcome back Leon.
    Here's the main.


    Is that vegan "pork"?
    No.
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 38,811
    edited March 2023
    Italy move to ban the inclusion of insect flour in pizza and pasta grade flours. Must be properly labelled and sold entirely separately to standard flours. Puts them on a collision course with the EU which wanted to silently make insect flour an additive to regular flour without obvious labelling.

    Feels relevant to today's discussion.

    I have to say, spending the last week and a bit in Rome was extremely refreshing for a cynical Brit. The people are fiercely protective of their culture and outsiders must assimilate, not carve out a bunch of special rules they get to live by. A lot to learn for Brits who should be more proud of who we are and our history.
  • I have ordered the pork belly with dauphinoise potatoes, carrots and a red wine jus. A pint of Surrey Nirvana to wash it down.

    It will probably be the Baileys Creme Brulee for dessert. Maybe the cheese board too with a port.

    What no photos? Anyway, welcome back Leon.
    Here's the main.


    Is that vegan "pork"?
    Looks like the plate is upside down! Still, at least it's not been served on an old shovel or any other pretentious wank!
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 60,447
    Bit early, but I'm tempted to escalate this and get Jean-Luc Batt-arred.
  • pingping Posts: 3,805
    edited March 2023

    Interesting:



    Back with another strange map of the 2021 Census.

    This time it's the second most popular answer for the question "What is your main language?".

    I really love the fact Yiddish is on this map, but I'll confess I wasn't quite expecting it to be 𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘳𝘦.


    https://twitter.com/christicorvus/status/1639182767484473349

    I would never have guessed Nepalese would be 2nd most common first language in NINE local authorities??!!!

    Might the explanation be Gurkhas and their families/descendants, concentrated on/near military bases in areas with few other recent immigrants/decendents?

    That’s my best guess.

    I assume the map is correct? Wouldn’t surprise me if it was wrong.

    How many Nepalese people do we have in the UK? There aren’t that many, surely?
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 60,447

    I have ordered the pork belly with dauphinoise potatoes, carrots and a red wine jus. A pint of Surrey Nirvana to wash it down.

    It will probably be the Baileys Creme Brulee for dessert. Maybe the cheese board too with a port.

    What no photos? Anyway, welcome back Leon.
    Here's the main.


    Is that vegan "pork"?
    Looks like the plate is upside down! Still, at least it's not been served on an old shovel or any other pretentious wank!
    You're just jealous.

    Nothing to stop you ordering the same or having a surreptitiously danger-wank over it later on.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 59,929
    Farooq said:

    MaxPB said:

    Italy move to ban the inclusion of insect flour in pizza and pasta grade flours. Must be properly labelled and sold entirely separately to standard flours. Puts them on a collision course with the EU which wanted to silently make insect flour an additive to regular flour without obvious labelling.

    Feels relevant to today's discussion.

    I have to say, spending the last week and a bit in Rome was extremely refreshing for a cynical Brit. The people are fiercely protective of their culture and outsiders must assimilate, not carve out a bunch of special rules they get to live by. A lot to learn for Brits who should be more proud of who we are and our history.

    Far-right lie klaxon

    The designation of the novel food on the
    labelling of the foodstuffs containing it shall
    be ‘Acheta domesticus (house cricket) partially
    defatted powder’.


    https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/PDF/?uri=CELEX:32023R0005&from=EN
    What particular characteristic made it a "far-right lie"?
  • twistedfirestopper3twistedfirestopper3 Posts: 2,421
    edited March 2023

    I have ordered the pork belly with dauphinoise potatoes, carrots and a red wine jus. A pint of Surrey Nirvana to wash it down.

    It will probably be the Baileys Creme Brulee for dessert. Maybe the cheese board too with a port.

    What no photos? Anyway, welcome back Leon.
    Here's the main.


    Is that vegan "pork"?
    Looks like the plate is upside down! Still, at least it's not been served on an old shovel or any other pretentious wank!
    You're just jealous.

    Nothing to stop you ordering the same or having a surreptitiously danger-wank over it later on.
    Casino, mate, genuinely we need to stop this little vegan/meat eater spat. I only tell you to go vegan because I know it winds you up. For what it's worth, my veganism isn't a religion, it's just a dietary and lifestyle choice after re assessing my own health and fitness after my wife's brush with breast cancer. Plus equally importantly, we really should be kinder to non humans and the planet in general. It's not down to me to judge how anyone else eats. So enjoy that pork, yer dirty meat eating bastard!🤣🤪
  • RobDRobD Posts: 59,929
    Farooq said:

    RobD said:

    Farooq said:

    MaxPB said:

    Italy move to ban the inclusion of insect flour in pizza and pasta grade flours. Must be properly labelled and sold entirely separately to standard flours. Puts them on a collision course with the EU which wanted to silently make insect flour an additive to regular flour without obvious labelling.

    Feels relevant to today's discussion.

    I have to say, spending the last week and a bit in Rome was extremely refreshing for a cynical Brit. The people are fiercely protective of their culture and outsiders must assimilate, not carve out a bunch of special rules they get to live by. A lot to learn for Brits who should be more proud of who we are and our history.

    Far-right lie klaxon

    The designation of the novel food on the
    labelling of the foodstuffs containing it shall
    be ‘Acheta domesticus (house cricket) partially
    defatted powder’.


    https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/PDF/?uri=CELEX:32023R0005&from=EN
    What particular characteristic made it a "far-right lie"?
    It's a lie that is in common circulation in far-right political circles.
    Some conspiracy theories, lies, panics, etc are more common in some ideological circles than in others.
    This particular lie is in common circulation in far-right political circles?
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 38,811
    Farooq said:

    MaxPB said:

    Italy move to ban the inclusion of insect flour in pizza and pasta grade flours. Must be properly labelled and sold entirely separately to standard flours. Puts them on a collision course with the EU which wanted to silently make insect flour an additive to regular flour without obvious labelling.

    Feels relevant to today's discussion.

    I have to say, spending the last week and a bit in Rome was extremely refreshing for a cynical Brit. The people are fiercely protective of their culture and outsiders must assimilate, not carve out a bunch of special rules they get to live by. A lot to learn for Brits who should be more proud of who we are and our history.

    Far-right lie klaxon

    The designation of the novel food on the
    labelling of the foodstuffs containing it shall
    be ‘Acheta domesticus (house cricket) partially
    defatted powder’.


    https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/PDF/?uri=CELEX:32023R0005&from=EN
    And yet it could be sold as "doppio zero" alongside proper pizza flour so unwitting customers who don't read the ingredients or labels on the back would end up buying it.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,388

    Bit early, but I'm tempted to escalate this and get Jean-Luc Batt-arred.

    Are you going to Pick 'ard core choices?
  • RobDRobD Posts: 59,929
    MaxPB said:

    Farooq said:

    MaxPB said:

    Italy move to ban the inclusion of insect flour in pizza and pasta grade flours. Must be properly labelled and sold entirely separately to standard flours. Puts them on a collision course with the EU which wanted to silently make insect flour an additive to regular flour without obvious labelling.

    Feels relevant to today's discussion.

    I have to say, spending the last week and a bit in Rome was extremely refreshing for a cynical Brit. The people are fiercely protective of their culture and outsiders must assimilate, not carve out a bunch of special rules they get to live by. A lot to learn for Brits who should be more proud of who we are and our history.

    Far-right lie klaxon

    The designation of the novel food on the
    labelling of the foodstuffs containing it shall
    be ‘Acheta domesticus (house cricket) partially
    defatted powder’.


    https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/PDF/?uri=CELEX:32023R0005&from=EN
    And yet it could be sold as "doppio zero" alongside proper pizza flour so unwitting customers who don't read the ingredients or labels on the back would end up buying it.
    Certainly tiny letters in the ingredients part doesn't constitute "obvious labelling".
  • pingping Posts: 3,805
    edited March 2023
    ping said:

    Interesting:



    Back with another strange map of the 2021 Census.

    This time it's the second most popular answer for the question "What is your main language?".

    I really love the fact Yiddish is on this map, but I'll confess I wasn't quite expecting it to be 𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘳𝘦.


    https://twitter.com/christicorvus/status/1639182767484473349

    I would never have guessed Nepalese would be 2nd most common first language in NINE local authorities??!!!

    Might the explanation be Gurkhas and their families/descendants, concentrated on/near military bases in areas with few other recent immigrants/decendents?

    That’s my best guess.

    I assume the map is correct? Wouldn’t surprise me if it was wrong.

    How many Nepalese people do we have in the UK? There aren’t that many, surely?
    Also, it might be an artefact of differential response. Gurkhas/descendants/families more likely than other non native English speaking groups to respond to the census due to higher levels of trust in the government as a consequence of their link to the military?

    Fascinating.
  • ChrisChris Posts: 11,749
    GIN1138 said:

    Andy_JS said:

    Julie Birchill's latest article.

    "How we gave up on work
    Lockdown and working from home have made us workshy and self-indulgent."

    https://www.spiked-online.com/2023/03/20/how-we-gave-up-on-work/

    Like most "columnists" I suspect she wrote that... from home? 🤷‍♂️
    Well, she calls it "work".
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 42,135
    Farooq said:

    RobD said:

    Farooq said:

    MaxPB said:

    Italy move to ban the inclusion of insect flour in pizza and pasta grade flours. Must be properly labelled and sold entirely separately to standard flours. Puts them on a collision course with the EU which wanted to silently make insect flour an additive to regular flour without obvious labelling.

    Feels relevant to today's discussion.

    I have to say, spending the last week and a bit in Rome was extremely refreshing for a cynical Brit. The people are fiercely protective of their culture and outsiders must assimilate, not carve out a bunch of special rules they get to live by. A lot to learn for Brits who should be more proud of who we are and our history.

    Far-right lie klaxon

    The designation of the novel food on the
    labelling of the foodstuffs containing it shall
    be ‘Acheta domesticus (house cricket) partially
    defatted powder’.


    https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/PDF/?uri=CELEX:32023R0005&from=EN
    What particular characteristic made it a "far-right lie"?
    It's a lie that is in common circulation in far-right political circles.
    Some conspiracy theories, lies, panics, etc are more common in some ideological circles than in others.
    Are there any non-lies in far right discourse?
This discussion has been closed.