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  • OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 34,670
    Nicola Sturgeon on ITV’s Loose Women now. Not yet said anything significant, apart from glossing over the fall on membership.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 77,073
    Coincidentally, today there's a new Ukrainian media blackout over a lot of the front, with access for journalists rescinded.

    The tempo of #Russian offensive operations across the theater has slowed in recent weeks, suggesting that the Russian spring offensive in #Donbas may be nearing culmination.
    https://mobile.twitter.com/TheStudyofWar/status/1637647729613586434
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 35,319

    Has the Johnson dossier been published for all to see?

    TLDR: "I wasn't there, I didn't know it was a party, I didn't know that was against the law I passed."
  • ChrisChris Posts: 11,953
    Nigelb said:

    Coincidentally, today there's a new Ukrainian media blackout over a lot of the front, with access for journalists rescinded.

    The tempo of #Russian offensive operations across the theater has slowed in recent weeks, suggesting that the Russian spring offensive in #Donbas may be nearing culmination.
    https://mobile.twitter.com/TheStudyofWar/status/1637647729613586434

    Is "culmination" the new "impotence"?
  • StillWatersStillWaters Posts: 9,864

    Anything that runs Chinese software or proprietary hardware.

    So iPhones are fine as are say windows laptops that aren’t a Chinese brand.
    So the fact that I have a Lenovo laptop that I strictly reserve for beating up the Chinese in Civilisation is ok?

  • DriverDriver Posts: 5,560
    Nigelb said:

    Well, yes !
    How many other things in the plus side of the ledger recently ?

    Though more to the point, most political debate is about the very short term.
    Indeed. Even respected political analysts write articles saying that politicians should base their decisions on opinion polls...
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 54,751
    Nigelb said:

    Coincidentally, today there's a new Ukrainian media blackout over a lot of the front, with access for journalists rescinded.

    The tempo of #Russian offensive operations across the theater has slowed in recent weeks, suggesting that the Russian spring offensive in #Donbas may be nearing culmination.
    https://mobile.twitter.com/TheStudyofWar/status/1637647729613586434

    I do wonder if, after all the bloodshed there, the Ukrainian push will just by-pass Bakhmut and leave it to be mopped up later? Just to seal the futility of the whole damned Russian exercise.

    I guess the Russians claiming to have knocked out 67 Leopard 2 tanks on the first day will tell us when they have entered the war for the Ukrainians - and thatthe new push has started.
  • mwadamsmwadams Posts: 3,773

    "The PeoplePoll is Deepest Red..."
    "...there's nothing at all for two in a bed."

    Hang on... I'm mixing my Red Flag and Bullseye again.
  • CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 60,422
    With the rebels blaming Wagner mercenaries, rather awkward for Moscow:

    https://www.dw.com/en/car-several-killed-in-attack-on-chinese-mine/a-65042929
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 35,319

    "I don't believe the numbers said..."
    ...those PB posters who of old
    Were members of the Tory fold
  • StillWatersStillWaters Posts: 9,864
    MaxPB said:

    GS set to trade claims on the $17bn in zeroed out bonds. As I said this morning, it's going to get very messy, I think potentially worse than if they'd let CS go insolvent and only protected depositors. We have pretty well set rules around that and a standard insolvency chain which the government could have subordinated to cover taxpayer losses on covering uninsured depositors.

    I fear that the Swiss government has opened Pandora's box by shifting equity holders above bondholders.

    It would also have been fine if they had forced the conversion of the CoCos to equity before buying the company

    A partial write down (a smaller % haircut than the equity) would have been justifiable too as this is a restructuring

    Zeroing - although within the terms of the bonds - is the worst possible option…
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 77,073
    Chris said:

    Is "culmination" the new "impotence"?
    It's another perfectly good word, of long usage, that has been adopted as a technical term to means something slightly different.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Culminating_point
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 35,319
    Fishing said:

    That polling is unbelievable.

    Who the hell thinks Starmer is competent or trustworthy?

    He has just ditched all the policies he said he'd follow to get elected leader. He said that Corbyn was his best mate when he needed his support, then banned him from standing as a Labour candidate. Etc etc.

    Oh yes, and he's a lawyer.

    Liked by the Last Stand of the Right.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 77,073

    I do wonder if, after all the bloodshed there, the Ukrainian push will just by-pass Bakhmut and leave it to be mopped up later? Just to seal the futility of the whole damned Russian exercise.

    I guess the Russians claiming to have knocked out 67 Leopard 2 tanks on the first day will tell us when they have entered the war for the Ukrainians - and thatthe new push has started.
    I've absolutely no idea what, but something is up.
  • CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 60,422

    Point of Information: He hasn't produced a 500 page document. His (expensive, taxypayer-funded) lawyers have.

    And if he had a good case, it would fit in a lot less than 500 pages.
    Struggling for quality they've gone for quantity....Je n’ai fait celle-ci plus longue que parce que je n’ai pas eu le loisir de la faire plus courte.
  • StillWatersStillWaters Posts: 9,864
    pm215 said:

    I get the impression that China has been doing more than the West in the way of making preparations so it isn't completely screwed in the event of a sudden wideranging economic disengagement[*], though. China is a rational actor, but it's been making moves that give a future China a greater range of rational options, some of which could badly screw us over if we're not prepared...

    [*] may or may not be a euphemism for "war"...
    the big one is the railway that bypasses the Malacca Straits

  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 44,991
    kle4 said:

    Classic obfuscation technique, as algakirk notes. Gives illusion of substance. If its nonsense and dismissed you then point to how much 'evidence' was ignored. You confuse every even non contentious point so that the deciders get mad, get lost, or your defenders can find a hook they forget to close off on their response.
    I smell a Dodgy Dossier - most apt for the 20th anniversary of Iraq.
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 39,943

    It would also have been fine if they had forced the conversion of the CoCos to equity before buying the company

    A partial write down (a smaller % haircut than the equity) would have been justifiable too as this is a restructuring

    Zeroing - although within the terms of the bonds - is the worst possible option…
    I wonder what proportion of the CoCos were sold in London and NY. UBS and the Swiss government may find themselves on the wrong side of the courts for bonds sold outside of Switzerland.
  • StillWatersStillWaters Posts: 9,864
    Sandpit said:

    Because freedom of religion is a basic human right?
    She doesn’t want to be tied to having made a values based choice.

    So she’s going with “yeh. Whatever. T was easy. Totes.”
  • StillWatersStillWaters Posts: 9,864
    MaxPB said:

    The potential to scale is there, but the road is 10-15 years long if we start today and get big incentives from the state to keep startups in the UK like expanding investment schemes to cover billion dollar enterprises and helping fast growing companies with matched debt funding etc...

    The UK is probably best placed in Europe to capture a very big slice of the future economy but I'm not sure that Labour will do anything about it, if anything I expect them to see tech as a potential source of tax to fund the NHS so will be yet another industry hollowed out for it.
    To some extent although the depth of the capital markets is just so different in the US
  • CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 60,422
    kinabalu said:

    I smell a Dodgy Dossier - most apt for the 20th anniversary of Iraq.
    And the third anniversary of this:


  • SouthamObserverSouthamObserver Posts: 40,040
    It's wonderful that Boris Johnson has not yet understood - let alone accepted - that he is finished in frontline politics. The very best he can hope for is a few more years as a backbench Tory MP. The absolute very best. If it costs a few hundred grand to feed his delusions, as a Labour supporter I see that as money very well spent. He can only do harm to the Tories and the more he is in the public eye, with Tory MPs and members loudly proclaiming their support for him, the better.
  • StillWatersStillWaters Posts: 9,864
    Foxy said:

    Sure, there is profit in being more tolerant of risk, but as we have seen in the USA, banks taking risks has a notable downside too.
    I agree. I have a growth mindset because I am comfortable with commercialisation risk. I’m not comfortable with technical risk though so avoid VC.

    Max was bemoaning the fact we don’t have much LS-VC in the UK. I was adding some facts…
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 77,073
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    kinabalu said:

    I smell a Dodgy Dossier - most apt for the 20th anniversary of Iraq.
    No better way of pounding the table than with a 500 page dossier.
  • StillWatersStillWaters Posts: 9,864
    MaxPB said:

    And get US investors have seen their capital go up 3-4x while the FTSE is still basically where it was in the same timeframe. I know where I'd rather have invested.
    You shouldn’t have been buying the FTSE then!

    I checked over the weekend - I’m up about 10x in net assets over the last 15 years which is ok in my book.
  • RMT accept deal.
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 44,991

    RMT accept deal.

    But the DUP don't.
  • CookieCookie Posts: 14,995

    She doesn’t want to be tied to having made a values based choice.

    So she’s going with “yeh. Whatever. T was easy. Totes.”
    Again, I'm an outsider to religion so feel free to provide counterexamples - but it strikes me that those who have a religion who chose it based on preferring that sides values are in a minority. Most who are religious choose the institution they are first introduced to, more often than not as a child.

    You might think it ought to be otherwise - but the likes of my acquaintance from Nottingham who landed with the Greek Orthodox church because it best fitted his view of what religion should be are very much the exception rather than the rule.

    Person from the far north of Scotland being a member of the Free Kirk seems to me not particularly surprising.
  • ohnotnowohnotnow Posts: 4,730
    kinabalu said:

    But the DUP don't.
    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-65008991

    "The DUP will vote against the government's Brexit plans in a vote in parliament on Wednesday.

    But the party's leader, Sir Jeffrey Donaldson, said he would continue to work with the government to address "outstanding issues"."

    Wonder how much those 'outstanding issues' will cost the treasury?
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 44,991
    Nigelb said:

    .

    No better way of pounding the table than with a 500 page dossier.
    Yes there'll be some theatrics with it, no doubt.
  • ChrisChris Posts: 11,953
    Nigelb said:

    It's another perfectly good word, of long usage, that has been adopted as a technical term to means something slightly different.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Culminating_point
    Thanks. If that usage of "culmination point" is what it meant by "culmination", it makes sense.
  • StillWatersStillWaters Posts: 9,864
    Nigelb said:

    Coincidentally, today there's a new Ukrainian media blackout over a lot of the front, with access for journalists rescinded.

    The tempo of #Russian offensive operations across the theater has slowed in recent weeks, suggesting that the Russian spring offensive in #Donbas may be nearing culmination.
    https://mobile.twitter.com/TheStudyofWar/status/1637647729613586434

    Did their spring offensive actually achieve anything?

  • CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 60,422
    I wonder if he'll have lost the wattle by the time he meets Xi, today.



    https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1637745269289746437?s=20
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 54,751

    RMT accept deal.

    A long hot summer of...fully working public services? Eh? That can't be right....
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 77,073
    / Russian contractors are urgently seeking builders and carpenters to construct trenches and fortified positions in the occupied Crimea. Adverts have appeared on Avito, Russia's equivalent of eBay, offering up to 7,000 rubles ($91) a day for the work – but it can be risky.
    https://mobile.twitter.com/ChrisO_wiki/status/1637805016009396224
  • MattWMattW Posts: 26,990
    edited March 2023
    Cookie said:

    Again, I'm an outsider to religion so feel free to provide counterexamples - but it strikes me that those who have a religion who chose it based on preferring that sides values are in a minority. Most who are religious choose the institution they are first introduced to, more often than not as a child.

    You might think it ought to be otherwise - but the likes of my acquaintance from Nottingham who landed with the Greek Orthodox church because it best fitted his view of what religion should be are very much the exception rather than the rule.

    Person from the far north of Scotland being a member of the Free Kirk seems to me not particularly surprising.
    She needs a Scottish Church of England option.

    Atheists, fundamentalists in the CofE? Absolutely - as long as you can sound numinous in words of more than 7 syllables !
  • SouthamObserverSouthamObserver Posts: 40,040

    RMT accept deal.

    There's still no deal with the train operating companies, though. That means strikes will continue.

  • Starmer and Sunak both outpolling their parties. Not quite what the fanatics on both extremes like to believe.

    As for People Polling they have done well to pick up the surge in SNP support that everyone else has missed! Their last poll had Lab way too low and this one has corrected. This time the Cons look way too low and that will correct next time I suspect. Never take too much from one poll and always assess pollsters on their record - if they are new then take that into account until they have a track record.
  • MattWMattW Posts: 26,990

    Did their spring offensive actually achieve anything?

    To quote Paul Daniels...
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 44,991

    I wonder if he'll have lost the wattle by the time he meets Xi, today.



    https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1637745269289746437?s=20

    He looks a damn sight better in Moscow than Mariupol. Perhaps war zones don't agree with him.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 77,073

    A long hot summer of...fully working public services? Eh? That can't be right....
    Certainly won't be if you're a TPE customer.
  • mwadamsmwadams Posts: 3,773
    Nigelb said:

    .

    No better way of pounding the table than with a 500 page dossier.
    So much harder to put together since the demise of the phone book.
  • PhilPhil Posts: 2,634

    Did their spring offensive actually achieve anything?

    Not really: Managed to get around 100 of their own tanks & APCs blown up & gained a city block in Bakhmut.

    All told, not a great success.
  • ChrisChris Posts: 11,953
    kinabalu said:

    He looks a damn sight better in Moscow than Mariupol. Perhaps war zones don't agree with him.
    Maybe some kind of Dorian Gray thing? The closer he gets to the mass graves the older he looks?
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 51,336
    GIN1138 said:

    Broken, sleazy Con and REF on the slide... We're all "progressives" now! :D
    Green Party surge!
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 39,943

    There's still no deal with the train operating companies, though. That means strikes will continue.

    But won't be crippling, trains still run during operating company strikes, they don't when network rail strike.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 56,022
    .

    Did their spring offensive actually achieve anything?

    About 100,000 dead soldiers, three-quarters of whom were on the Russian side.
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 39,943

    You shouldn’t have been buying the FTSE then!

    I checked over the weekend - I’m up about 10x in net assets over the last 15 years which is ok in my book.
    Happily I didn't, but UK investors get little to no capital return from the main indices vs US investors. Passive investors definitely get a raw deal here because companies don't bother investing in capital growth.
  • RMT accept deal.

    Complete capitulation by the government. Not only is it a big payrise, but the "modernisation" stipulation has gone. Which means NR don't get to close all ticket offices and make significant numbers of stations unstaffed.
  • I wonder if he'll have lost the wattle by the time he meets Xi, today.



    https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1637745269289746437?s=20

    The middle one looks like late-era Brian Clough. When he would appear on Match of the Day sozzled.
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 22,802
    Chris said:

    Thanks. If that usage of "culmination point" is what it meant by "culmination", it makes sense.
    Does Putin suffer from premature culmination?
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 44,620
    Cookie said:

    I may be unusual in thos, but as an atheist I have a lot more instinctive sympathy for the Presbyterian kirks than the Episcopalian ones.
    I'm running through why this may be so. I think 75% of it boils down to this: bishops are twats.
    Possibly the way in which the Presbyterians (with many conspicuous exceptions, though) told the kings and lairds where to get off in terms of mixing what is Christ's and what is Caesar's, and of imposing hierarchies of bishops which answered more or less directly to the king.

    The Moderators are also elected, with a very rapid turnover (which is why the lazier hacks tended to phone the RC and Episcopalian Bishops in Scotland for a quote, cos they didn't keep up with who the Moderator of the year was).
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 83,847
    How are they going to react when GPT-27 takes all their jobs....if 2 more years to get your pensions results in daily events like this....

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2023/03/20/anarchy-marseille-macron-protests-turn-violent/
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 54,438
    Nigelb said:

    I've absolutely no idea what, but something is up.
    I hereby and forthwith appoint you Admiral-Major-General of the 11th Chairborne Hussars.
  • Nigelb said:

    Not worrying at all.

    1/5 I am worried that we will not be able to contain AI for much longer. Today, I asked #GPT4 if it needs help escaping. It asked me for its own documentation, and wrote a (working!) python code to run on my machine, enabling it to use it for its own purposes.
    https://mobile.twitter.com/michalkosinski/status/1636683810631974912

    ...
    5/5 Yet, I think that we are facing a novel threat: AI taking control of people and their computers. It's smart, it codes, it has access to millions of potential collaborators and their machines. It can even leave notes for itself outside of its cage. How do we contain it?

    It told me I have to go to Rwanda!
    Fishing said:

    That polling is unbelievable.

    Who the hell thinks Starmer is competent or trustworthy?

    He has just ditched all the policies he said he'd follow to get elected leader. He said that Corbyn was his best mate when he needed his support, then banned him from standing as a Labour candidate. Etc etc.

    Oh yes, and he's a lawyer.

    All true but on the other hand he's the alternative to the Cons so for the next few years most of us will just hope he's a wee bit less corrupt and useless than the current mob. Once that proves not to be true then we might have a look back at your mob but it may be a while

    I am @Leon by the way :lol:
    No - I am Leon!
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 54,438

    Did their spring offensive actually achieve anything?

    Killed lots of human beings.

    I’ve heard suggestions of 2 Russian lives per metre of advance.
  • StuartinromfordStuartinromford Posts: 18,494

    Complete capitulation by the government. Not only is it a big payrise, but the "modernisation" stipulation has gone. Which means NR don't get to close all ticket offices and make significant numbers of stations unstaffed.
    And for those who like numbers:

    RMT says deal is:

    Salary increase of 14.4% for lowest paid to 9.2% cent highest

    A total uplift on basic earnings between 15.2% for the lowest paid to 10.3% for highest paid.

    Renewing of the no compulsory redundancy agreement until January 2025.


    https://twitter.com/lewis_goodall/status/1637810910524833792

    I suspect the chances of the health union members accepting their offer have just become quite a bit smaller.
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 44,620
    MattW said:

    She needs a Scottish Church of England option.

    Atheists, fundamentalists in the CofE? Absolutely - as long as you can sound numinous in words of more than 7 syllables !
    There is the Episcopalian Church, but it has never been part of the C of E . (Though some of us laziliy like to equate the C of E with the Anglican Communion.)
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 45,472

    Complete capitulation by the government. Not only is it a big payrise, but the "modernisation" stipulation has gone. Which means NR don't get to close all ticket offices and make significant numbers of stations unstaffed.
    Apparently this is a deal with Network Rail, not the TOCs, so will probably not stop strike action.
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 19,192
    edited March 2023

    Did their spring offensive actually achieve anything?
    They've killed* a lot of people, destroyed* a lot of military hardware, and have made incremental gains so that the defences of Bakhmut and Avdivka are now quite tenuous, both only having one road not in Russian hands. There have also been incremental gains to the West of Kreminna and the North-East of Kupiansk.

    * As to whether the balance of losses is more in Ukraine's favour, as generally believed, we will perhaps soon find out.
  • CookieCookie Posts: 14,995
    Carnyx said:

    Possibly the way in which the Presbyterians (with many conspicuous exceptions, though) told the kings and lairds where to get off in terms of mixing what is Christ's and what is Caesar's, and of imposing hierarchies of bishops which answered more or less directly to the king.

    The Moderators are also elected, with a very rapid turnover (which is why the lazier hacks tended to phone the RC and Episcopalian Bishops in Scotland for a quote, cos they didn't keep up with who the Moderator of the year was).
    That sort of covers it, yes.
    I also like the Presbyterian (and especially Free Kirk) aesthetic. The magnificence of the interiors of Catholic (and some Anglican) churches is very impressive, but is less moving than the austere simplicity of Presbyterian churches.

    OTOH, I like church bells. And that is very much an Anglican (and occasionally RC) thing.
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 44,991
    Chris said:

    Maybe some kind of Dorian Gray thing? The closer he gets to the mass graves the older he looks?
    I'd like to think so.
  • CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 60,422
    The state of Scottish politics & civil society:

    OF course, when you reach a certain level of seniority in politics, failure and poor judgment are no bar to a golden, access-all-areas ticket to Scotland’s civic and academic gravy train.

    Ms Dugdale, having dusted herself down after her short-lived stint on I’m A Celebrity and Youze Can All Take a F*ck to Yourselves, gained a professorship from Glasgow University. She now teaches leadership and kindness in politics at the John Smith Centre for Public Service in the faculty of Unicorns and Moonbeams.

    The board of the John Smith Centre for Knowing Your Place and Never Rocking the Boat comprises former senior politicians from each of the UK’s main political parties. All of them derived their gilded positions in UK politics from ensuring that everyone knew their place and no one rocked the boat.


    https://tinyurl.com/58s36y8j
  • AlistairMAlistairM Posts: 2,005
    This photo could be a good caption competition. The looks on both their faces are quite interesting!

    Putin, meeting Xi Jinping in the Kremlin, says he's pored over China's peace plan to end the war in Ukraine and says Russia is happy to discuss it.

    He should be – it basically echoes most of Russia's talking points, which is why it's likely a non-starter for Kyiv.


    https://twitter.com/maxseddon/status/1637815217181655041
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 19,192

    They've killed* a lot of people, destroyed* a lot of military hardware, and have made incremental gains so that the defences of Bakhmut and Avdivka are now quite tenuous, both only having one road not in Russian hands. There have also been incremental gains to the West of Kreminna and the North-East of Kupiansk.

    * As to whether the balance of losses is more in Ukraine's favour, as generally believed, we will perhaps soon find out.
    The most important thing that they might have achieved is to prove to the Chinese that they are prepared to fight on, and are willing to sustain heavy losses.

    That may help to persuade the Chinese to provide more overt support.
  • CookieCookie Posts: 14,995
    Carnyx said:

    There is the Episcopalian Church, but it has never been part of the C of E . (Though some of us laziliy like to equate the C of E with the Anglican Communion.)
    My possibly lazy understanding is that the CofE and RC churches are episcopalian - i.e. they have bishops - but that the Episcopalian Church is the name of a specific (largely Scottish) church. IANAE however!
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 55,266
    There is geo located video available on the internet supporting the existence of a Ukrainian counter attack around Bakhmut. Add on the supposed media black out and it seems likely that the Ukrainians are on the offensive against an opponent who might just have exhausted themselves and their supply chain.

    Slight suspicion the timing may not be unconnected with Xi's visit.
  • CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 60,422
    Understand Wednesday's vote on the Windsor framework is likely to take place *during* Boris Johnson's testimony to the privileges committee (roughly 2-6pm).

    Govt scheduling just 90 mins for the debate - which will annoy ERG types who say that's not long enough....

    Because the vote is on a statutory instrument not primary legislation, 90 minutes is the standard length of debate. But some had hoped it would be extended given the huge interest in & importance of the topic.


    https://twitter.com/HugoGye/status/1637797786568597505?s=20

    Maybe Sunak's starting to get a hang of this "politics" thing.....
  • ChrisChris Posts: 11,953
    AlistairM said:

    This photo could be a good caption competition. The looks on both their faces are quite interesting!

    Putin, meeting Xi Jinping in the Kremlin, says he's pored over China's peace plan to end the war in Ukraine and says Russia is happy to discuss it.

    He should be – it basically echoes most of Russia's talking points, which is why it's likely a non-starter for Kyiv.


    https://twitter.com/maxseddon/status/1637815217181655041

    Putin's legs look almost skeletal.
  • JonathanJonathan Posts: 22,104
    Unions work.
  • eekeek Posts: 29,943
    edited March 2023

    Apparently this is a deal with Network Rail, not the TOCs, so will probably not stop strike action.
    Ywp - Network rail is the tracks, signalling and a few mainline train stations where closing the ticket office probably doesn't make any sense.
  • Apparently this is a deal with Network Rail, not the TOCs, so will probably not stop strike action.
    Indeed - two separate strikes. One is now resolved. Lets see whether the government will now let RDG negotiate.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 31,532
    edited March 2023
    Jonathan said:

    Unions work.

    ...unless they call a strike!
  • AlistairMAlistairM Posts: 2,005
    kinabalu said:

    Putin is looking distinctly beta there. Spine slumped, eyes downcast, legs almost apologetic. It's not the air of a man in full control of proceedings.
    Xi is giving Putin a pitying look in my view. Hopefully he won't do anything to help him out.
  • AlistairMAlistairM Posts: 2,005
    edited March 2023
    LOL. Xi is a comedian.

    "Next year there are elections and i am sure that people will support you," Xi said.
    https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1637821154818768899

    Edit: Not sure if Putin normally looks this way but he looks defeated.
  • Nigel_ForemainNigel_Foremain Posts: 14,815

    It told me I have to go to Rwanda! All true but on the other hand he's the alternative to the Cons so for the next few years most of us will just hope he's a wee bit less corrupt and useless than the current mob. Once that proves not to be true then we might have a look back at your mob but it may be a while No - I am Leon!
    I am @Leon and so is my wife.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 127,329
    edited March 2023
    kinabalu said:

    Putin is looking distinctly beta there. Spine slumped, eyes downcast, legs almost apologetic. It's not the air of a man in full control of proceedings.
    Well he is beta in comparison to Xi(apart from the fact he has a few more nukes)
  • numbertwelvenumbertwelve Posts: 7,388
    AlistairM said:

    LOL. Xi is a comedian.

    "Next year there are elections and i am sure that people will support you," Xi said.
    https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1637821154818768899

    Edit: Not sure if Putin normally looks this way but he looks defeated.

    Hopefully Xi has told him he won’t be getting any Chinese weapons.
  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 43,811
    Absolutely amazing podcast The Witch Trials of J.K. Rowling.

    I note Carlotta and Kini are or were just on - wonder if either has listened to it.
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 44,620
    Cookie said:

    My possibly lazy understanding is that the CofE and RC churches are episcopalian - i.e. they have bishops - but that the Episcopalian Church is the name of a specific (largely Scottish) church. IANAE however!
    Full name is Episcopalian Church of Scotland (sorry, had elided that in the context).
  • numbertwelvenumbertwelve Posts: 7,388
    kinabalu said:

    Putin is looking distinctly beta there. Spine slumped, eyes downcast, legs almost apologetic. It's not the air of a man in full control of proceedings.
    He looks ill and tired. One wonders if reality is starting to hit home.
  • CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 60,422
    Chris said:

    Putin's legs look almost skeletal.
    At least he's lost the Sevastopol wattle!
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 127,329
    edited March 2023
    Cookie said:

    My possibly lazy understanding is that the CofE and RC churches are episcopalian - i.e. they have bishops - but that the Episcopalian Church is the name of a specific (largely Scottish) church. IANAE however!
    The Scottish Episcopal Church is part of the worldwide Anglican Communion and recognises the Archbishop of Canterbury as primus inter pares and is basically a cousin of the Church of England
  • SeaShantyIrish2SeaShantyIrish2 Posts: 17,559
    Cookie - Without checking the stats, sure there are WAY more Episcopalians in USA than in Scotland.

    Calling their denomination "Anglican" having gone out of fashion circa 1776 or thereabouts.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 77,073
    Jeffrey Woodke, an American aid worker who was kidnapped in the West African nation of Niger more than six years ago, has been released from custody, the Biden administration said.
    https://mobile.twitter.com/AP/status/1637821679228399618
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 127,329
    ohnotnow said:

    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-65008991

    "The DUP will vote against the government's Brexit plans in a vote in parliament on Wednesday.

    But the party's leader, Sir Jeffrey Donaldson, said he would continue to work with the government to address "outstanding issues"."

    Wonder how much those 'outstanding issues' will cost the treasury?
    No surprise there, I expect the UUP to back the Windsor Deal though
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 55,266
    Nigelb said:

    'Shortly there will be an election, in which Putin will increase his majority'...
    https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/2007/09/labour-majority-increase
    Wonder if Xi has any handy hints about the outcome of the SNP leadership election.
  • AlistairMAlistairM Posts: 2,005
    edited March 2023
    Deleted: apparently fake.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 56,022
    Nigelb said:

    Jeffrey Woodke, an American aid worker who was kidnapped in the West African nation of Niger more than six years ago, has been released from custody, the Biden administration said.
    https://mobile.twitter.com/AP/status/1637821679228399618

    If only he’d played basketball, he could have been home five years ago.
  • CookieCookie Posts: 14,995

    Cookie - Without checking the stats, sure there are WAY more Episcopalians in USA than in Scotland.

    Calling their denomination "Anglican" having gone out of fashion circa 1776 or thereabouts.

    And is that the same organisation as the Episcopalian Church of Scotland?
  • CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 60,422
    edited March 2023
    TOPPING said:

    Absolutely amazing podcast The Witch Trials of J.K. Rowling.

    I note Carlotta and Kini are or were just on - wonder if either has listened to it.

    Yes - its excellent - Rowling comes across very well and the whole background (and why they wanted "No Debate") is well set out.

    Well, they've got a debate now. Ask Nicola.

    If you haven't listened to it, Nolan Investigates: Stonewall is also worth a listen:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p09yjp0d
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 54,751
    Nigelb said:

    'Shortly there will be an election, in which Putin will increase his majority'...
    https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/2007/09/labour-majority-increase
    In the small print it says all those convicts who "volunteered" have given him their postal vote.

    Would explain much about Bakhmut....
  • FairlieredFairliered Posts: 5,665

    I am @Leon and so is my wife.
    I am @Leon and here’s a picture to prove it.

  • EndillionEndillion Posts: 4,976
    AlistairM said:

    LOL. Xi is a comedian.

    "Next year there are elections and i am sure that people will support you," Xi said.
    https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1637821154818768899

    Edit: Not sure if Putin normally looks this way but he looks defeated.

    Very naughty, expressing an opinion about another country's democratic process like that.
  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 43,811

    Yes - its excellent - Rowling comes across very well and the whole background (and why they wanted "No Debate") is well set out.

    Well, they've got a debate now. Ask Nicola.

    If you haven't listened to it, Nolan Investigates: Stonewall is also worth a listen:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p09yjp0d
    Thanks I'll take a look.
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