Detail of the statement bit more nuanced than headlines. But the fundamental grievance is that EU law shouldn't apply at all in NI without consent. A very high bar, which wasn't explicitly part of their 7 tests. I sympathise with their concerns but...(1/3)
They should have been clear there weren't 7 tests but 1 and its pretty much impossible one to meet with any form of the protocol. Ultimately the implication is DUP will never back any form of the protocol in NI (2/3)
Which then leaves them two choices either they want a hard border on island of Ireland or they want all UK in SM & CU (though May backstop came close & they rejected that). They should be clear of which of these they want to see. (3/3)
Is it really a breach of the sub judice rules to call him a murderer just because an appeal of sentence has been allowed? He is not denying his guilt.
Yes.,
https://erskinemay.parliament.uk/section/5176/matters-sub-judice/ ...Cases in which proceedings are active in the United Kingdom courts, including courts martial, coroners' courts and fatal accident inquiries, may not be referred to in any motion, debate, question or supplementary question. In criminal matters, proceedings are active when a charge has been brought or a summons to appear has been issued or, in Scotland, a warrant to cite has been granted, until the proceedings are concluded by verdict and sentence or discontinuance or, in cases dealt with by courts martial, after the conclusion of the mandatory post-trial review. In civil matters, proceedings are active when arrangements for the hearing, such as setting down a case for trial, have been made, until the proceedings are ended by judgment or discontinuance. Appellate proceedings (whether criminal or civil) are active from the time when they are commenced by application for leave to appeal or by notice of appeal until ended by judgment or discontinuance.
The rules governing sub judice are subject to the proviso that, where a ministerial decision is in question, or where in the opinion of the Lord Speaker a case concerns issues of national importance such as the economy, public order or the essential services, reference to the issues or the case may be made. The Lord Speaker must be given at least 24 hours' notice of any proposal to refer to a matter which is sub judice. The exercise of the Lord Speaker's discretion may not be challenged in the House...
You could read that either way, surely? The proceedings have been concluded, he's just appealed the conclusion (I am not a lawyer).
In the passage quoted, "Appellate" means relating to an appeal.
Ah, didn't see that passage. Thanks. I would amend this to exclude appeals of sentence alone.
Disagree. It would still be political and media pressure on the appellate judges. Which is the whole point.
Cookie - Without checking the stats, sure there are WAY more Episcopalians in USA than in Scotland.
Calling their denomination "Anglican" having gone out of fashion circa 1776 or thereabouts.
And is that the same organisation as the Episcopalian Church of Scotland?
Separate but friendly (like all the churches in the Anglican Communion). Episcopal(ian) is sometimes used when Anglican makes the link to England too obvious to be tactful, or a good sell. See also the (tiny) Reformed Episcopal Church of Spain.
According to wikipedia, there are about 3 million self-identified US Episcopalians (1.2 percent of the population) and less than 30 thousand Scottish Piskies (about 0.5 percent of the population).
All part of the Anglican Communion.
US Episcopalians may be small in number but they are outsized in influence, producing Presidents like George HW Bush, Ford and FDR and Transport Secretary Pete Buttigieg and Senator McCain.
US Episcopalians are also far more likely to have a degree than the average American and have a much higher income on average too
Their only purpose now, it seems to litigate over the ownership of church assets with departing congregations.
WRT Anglican Communion, the meaning of 'Communion' historically is that it identifies a body all of whom recognise fully each others' sacraments and ordained ministries. They are interchangeable.
This is not longer true of the Anglican communion (global) or even the Church of England (basically just England). Especially the ordination of women issue but also the gay issue has meant that not all Anglicans have to recognise the ministry of all other Anglicans. This is now several decades old.
As a result in England bishops come in 3 flavours, and each parish can choose. Most have the diocesan bishop, as ever, as their bishop bit hundreds of parishes choose to have an ultra low church alternative or an ultra high church alternative according to taste and conviction.
In the long run this is not sustainable, and it is not a communion. Which is sad.
The Anglican Communion is NOT and never has been a top down global denomination like the Roman Catholic Church where what the Vatican says goes globally. It is merely a loose federation of Catholic but reformed churches who believe bishops have a role in the ordering of ministry. While also accepting there are different means of interpreting the Bible and a commitment to the sacraments
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