Bloody hell. I thought he had might get twelve months, but four years? That is a very long time, unless I have much misunderstood the charges.
After the expenses scandal, the sums were larger but jail sentences were around 1 year.
Something has made a difference - perhaps the raised expectations and setting up a charity for th purposes of extracting money. Need to see the sentencing remarks.
McGabble got 6 months I think, and served 4. He was submitting false receipts for £10k's, fake subscriptions and services, falsely claiming his garage was his office.....I don't think he had even had an mitigating factors around being a drug addict with mental health problems.
There were some very lucky MPs who had rental agreements that looked extremely dodgy to say the least, no contract, no receipts, paid to mates.
"punchy State of the Union address" - that's one way of putting it, it more reminded me of the "Grandpa" Marsh out of South Park.
But what it did do was show that all the 'senile' talk is way off beam.
Did it, he ended up howling at the moon, making very little sense. Something or other about nobody wanting to swap with Winnie the Pooh to be leader of China.
"punchy State of the Union address" - that's one way of putting it, it more reminded me of the "Grandpa" Marsh out of South Park.
But what it did do was show that all the 'senile' talk is way off beam.
Did it, he ended up howling at the moon, making very little sense. Something or other about nobody wanting to swap with Winnie the Pooh to be leader of China.
You're the one with cognitive issues if you think he's senile. Have you had a check?
"punchy State of the Union address" - that's one way of putting it, it more reminded me of the "Grandpa" Marsh out of South Park.
But what it did do was show that all the 'senile' talk is way off beam.
Did it, he ended up howling at the moon, making very little sense. Something or other about nobody wanting to swap with Winnie the Pooh to be leader of China.
You're the one with cognitive issues if you think he's senile. Have you had a check?
So all that talk about chatbots and 'the college essay is dead' was a bit previous then.
Not really, you just write an essay in one chatbot and then tell another one to mark it. Can't get on to chatgpt now but i bet it would pick up the error.
Very much on topic, there’s supposed to be a discussion about the State of the Union speech between Amercian Conservative Dave Rubin, and Liberal Peter Boghossian, on Rubin’s Youtube channel in the next few minutes. https://youtube.com/@RubinReport/featured
I have to run away for a couple of hours, because I have a wife and dinner!
Yes Biden's speech went down well and offered a key wedge issue for him and the Democrats with the GOP in terms of preserving Social Security and Medicare from cuts.
Trump meanwhile leads DeSantis 42% to 32% in new Yougov of GOP voters
The lesson to be learned? Don't **** with Nick Clegg!
Are you suggesting the sentencing judge has been exposed to a number of extremely targeted Facebook ads over the past few days/weeks on the need for tougher sentences for misuse of public funds?
EDIT - I would love to have been a fly on the wall both when he was selected and then when they realised they had elected a ticking bomb. Former constituency of mine so interested.
They were supposed to have Oliver Coppard - who is now Mayor of Sarf Yorkshire. But he had to drop out and as I understand it O'Mara was a Corbynite parachutee.
So it sounds like the vetting process was if he pledged fealty to Jezbollah and would wind up the constituency. Which happened a lot. In Stockton South we managed to avoid having Jessie Jessie Jessie Jo Jacobs imposed on us by doing a backroom deal with the regional director. So the "selection" of Dr Paul Williams over JJJ was literally a couple of us on the phone bagging him quicker than Momentum could get JJJJJ imposed over the regional director's head.
If he chickens out, his numerous boosters in the GOP will be looking elsewhere in four years time. And there's no guarantee his governorship will look as shiny by then; quite the opposite.
Yes Biden's speech went down well and offered a key wedge issue for him and the Democrats with the GOP in terms of preserving Social Security and Medicare from cuts.
Trump meanwhile leads DeSantis 42% to 32% in new Yougov of GOP voters
He’s keeping his nose clean for 2028 or 2032, knows that 2024 is going to be dominated by the Trump sh!t-show.
Lots of smart Democrats decided to sit out 1992 and to wait for a better opportunity in 1996.
That turned out to be a mistake.
If Biden is re elected and as rumoured moves Harris to the SC and replaces her with Buttigieg as his VP, the Democrats could be in the White House for 16 years.
Beating Biden in 2024 may be the only chance Republicans get to become President for a generation
Bloody hell. I thought he had might get twelve months, but four years? That is a very long time, unless I have much misunderstood the charges.
After the expenses scandal, the sums were larger but jail sentences were around 1 year.
Something has made a difference - perhaps the raised expectations and setting up a charity for th purposes of extracting money. Need to see the sentencing remarks.
McGabble got 6 months I think, and served 4. He was submitting false receipts for £10k's, fake subscriptions and services, falsely claiming his garage was his office.....I don't think he had even had an mitigating factors around being a drug addict with mental health problems.
There were some very lucky MPs who had rental agreements that looked extremely dodgy to say the least, no contract, no receipts, paid to mates.
Bloody hell. I thought he had might get twelve months, but four years? That is a very long time, unless I have much misunderstood the charges.
After the expenses scandal, the sums were larger but jail sentences were around 1 year.
Something has made a difference - perhaps the raised expectations and setting up a charity for th purposes of extracting money. Need to see the sentencing remarks.
McGabble got 6 months I think, and served 4. He was submitting false receipts for £10k's, fake subscriptions and services, falsely claiming his garage was his office.....I don't think he had even had an mitigating factors around being a drug addict with mental health problems.
There were some very lucky MPs who had rental agreements that looked extremely dodgy to say the least, no contract, no receipts, paid to mates.
There were a *lot* of very lucky MPs.
Mortgage flipping, for a start.
Well there is where the difference between immoral and illegal. Paying rent to a friend with no receipts or contract or paying rent to live with somebody who you then hand out public money to, is a slightly different matter from the rules let me keep flipping to different properties.
Yes Biden's speech went down well and offered a key wedge issue for him and the Democrats with the GOP in terms of preserving Social Security and Medicare from cuts.
Trump meanwhile leads DeSantis 42% to 32% in new Yougov of GOP voters
The basic problem for Republicans is the breakdown of their primary electorate after decades of Fox News and talk radio. I would describe it as follows:
40% - the "F*ck You Republicans". Typically rural whites or blue collar whites that actively delight in their politicians being active assholes to those outside their group.
45% - the "Strength and Decorum Republicans". Higher income folks that want their tax cuts and hate being imposed on. They want someone strong to fight back against Democrats but want it done in a way that doesn't make them embarrassed in polite company.
15% - the "Civil and Intellectual Republicans". People that have studies conservative theory, believe in liberal democracy and are intellectually consistent.
Trump obviously scoops up the 40% very quickly because he is the most unrestrained asshole out there. Now in theory the second two groups can join forces to defeat Trump, and polling sometimes suggests this.
But as soon as the primary starts, Trump tears down his rivals and it doesn't hurt him with his 40%, because they like him being an asshole. The victim is now screwed. If they don't fight back and remain above the fray, they seem weak and lose support among the second group. If they do fight back, the Trumpians hate him for attacking their guy, while the Strength and Decorum guys feel he is no better than Trump so he doesn't consolidate them. And the Civil ones go right off him.
And of course, if there are more than two opponents to Trump, Trump romps home in a divided field.
If he chickens out, his numerous boosters in the GOP will be looking elsewhere in four years time. And there's no guarantee his governorship will look as shiny by then; quite the opposite.
In four years time, Trump will be too old and whichever of Trump and Biden wins in 2024 will be term-limited in 2028. DeSantis's main danger (other than events, dear boy, events) will be if some other non-Trump Republican runs and wins this time round so will be incumbent in 2028, but the (current!) polls show that's not going to happen. But if DeSantis runs now and loses, whether to Trump or Biden, it's game over.
He’s keeping his nose clean for 2028 or 2032, knows that 2024 is going to be dominated by the Trump sh!t-show.
Lots of smart Democrats decided to sit out 1992 and to wait for a better opportunity in 1996.
That turned out to be a mistake.
If you don't run off a 19% governor win, when you've got national recognition before you even announce, and the GOP leaning press are on your side, when do you run ?
Not to run would almost certainly be seen as chickening out, rather than playing the long game. Perceived cowardice is a fatal flaw in a politician.
That’s really sharp and intelligent analysis. Are we really sure he’s a Republican? 🤔
It’s very surprising coming from him - Louis Theroux did a doc on BBC where he spent time with Fuentes and he’s a vile vile piece of shit but not stupid, cynical maybe, so Republicans will be listening.
If he chickens out, his numerous boosters in the GOP will be looking elsewhere in four years time. And there's no guarantee his governorship will look as shiny by then; quite the opposite.
In four years time, Trump will be too old and whichever of Trump and Biden wins in 2024 will be term-limited in 2028. DeSantis's main danger (other than events, dear boy, events) will be if some other non-Trump Republican runs and wins this time round so will be incumbent in 2028, but the (current!) polls show that's not going to happen. But if DeSantis runs now and loses, whether to Trump or Biden, it's game over.
I wouldn't plan on an 82 year old Trump not running in 2028.
He’s keeping his nose clean for 2028 or 2032, knows that 2024 is going to be dominated by the Trump sh!t-show.
Lots of smart Democrats decided to sit out 1992 and to wait for a better opportunity in 1996.
That turned out to be a mistake.
If Biden is re elected and as rumoured moves Harris to the SC and replaces her with Buttigieg as his VP, the Democrats could be in the White House for 16 years.
Beating Biden in 2024 may be the only chance Republicans get to become President for a generation
That’s really sharp and intelligent analysis. Are we really sure he’s a Republican? 🤔
It’s very surprising coming from him - Louis Theroux did a doc on BBC where he spent time with Fuentes and he’s a vile vile piece of shit but not stupid, cynical maybe, so Republicans will be listening.
He is the American Tommy Robinson or Nick Griffin. If you remember Nick Griffin BNP "manifesto" once you got past the race element, was actually very left wing...nationalise everything, buy British, stop cheap imports, open the mines, the factories, etc etc etc.
The biggest take down of Griffin wasn't the QT appearance, it was when interviewed by Iain Dale. Where Dale said ok, we know your views on immigration etc, lets talk about your other ideas, and because it took him away from his stock area of race he totally blew up as he had no idea how any of the Corbynista type policies could be made possible.
Yes Biden's speech went down well and offered a key wedge issue for him and the Democrats with the GOP in terms of preserving Social Security and Medicare from cuts.
Trump meanwhile leads DeSantis 42% to 32% in new Yougov of GOP voters
The basic problem for Republicans is the breakdown of their primary electorate after decades of Fox News and talk radio. I would describe it as follows:
40% - the "F*ck You Republicans". Typically rural whites or blue collar whites that actively delight in their politicians being active assholes to those outside their group.
45% - the "Strength and Decorum Republicans". Higher income folks that want their tax cuts and hate being imposed on. They want someone strong to fight back against Democrats but want it done in a way that doesn't make them embarrassed in polite company.
15% - the "Civil and Intellectual Republicans". People that have studies conservative theory, believe in liberal democracy and are intellectually consistent.
Trump obviously scoops up the 40% very quickly because he is the most unrestrained asshole out there. Now in theory the second two groups can join forces to defeat Trump, and polling sometimes suggests this.
But as soon as the primary starts, Trump tears down his rivals and it doesn't hurt him with his 40%, because they like him being an asshole. The victim is now screwed. If they don't fight back and remain above the fray, they seem weak and lose support among the second group. If they do fight back, the Trumpians hate him for attacking their guy, while the Strength and Decorum guys feel he is no better than Trump so he doesn't consolidate them. And the Civil ones go right off him.
And of course, if there are more than two opponents to Trump, Trump romps home in a divided field.
Not fighting back has worked for DeSantis so far - it's rather seen as his ignoring Trump.
"punchy State of the Union address" - that's one way of putting it, it more reminded me of the "Grandpa" Marsh out of South Park.
But what it did do was show that all the 'senile' talk is way off beam.
Or he had a good half hour.
He did. But he's very much in this world rather than one of his own - that's what I really mean. My mum sadly is senile now. It's not about frailty and gaffes it's about losing grip on what's what.
She was ok (ish) just say 3 months ago but now - no. Which illustrates what I think the real risk with Biden is and why he kind of is too old to run again in an ideal world. He's fine now but could be struggling at some point in a 2nd term.
If he chickens out, his numerous boosters in the GOP will be looking elsewhere in four years time. And there's no guarantee his governorship will look as shiny by then; quite the opposite.
In four years time, Trump will be too old and whichever of Trump and Biden wins in 2024 will be term-limited in 2028. DeSantis's main danger (other than events, dear boy, events) will be if some other non-Trump Republican runs and wins this time round so will be incumbent in 2028, but the (current!) polls show that's not going to happen. But if DeSantis runs now and loses, whether to Trump or Biden, it's game over.
And even if that all happens, DeSantis will only be aged 53 in 2032. Still young by Presidential standards.
So a few reasons why I don't trust Seymour Hersh's thinly sourced journalism. I've had to deal with his terribly sourced investigations since the August 2013 Sarin attacks, which @DanKaszeta and I picked apart in the Guardian
He’s keeping his nose clean for 2028 or 2032, knows that 2024 is going to be dominated by the Trump sh!t-show.
Lots of smart Democrats decided to sit out 1992 and to wait for a better opportunity in 1996.
That turned out to be a mistake.
If Biden is re elected and as rumoured moves Harris to the SC and replaces her with Buttigieg as his VP, the Democrats could be in the White House for 16 years.
Beating Biden in 2024 may be the only chance Republicans get to become President for a generation
Really? Why so pessimistic for the GOP over that timeframe?
He’s keeping his nose clean for 2028 or 2032, knows that 2024 is going to be dominated by the Trump sh!t-show.
Lots of smart Democrats decided to sit out 1992 and to wait for a better opportunity in 1996.
That turned out to be a mistake.
If you don't run off a 19% governor win, when you've got national recognition before you even announce, and the GOP leaning press are on your side, when do you run ?
Not to run would almost certainly be seen as chickening out, rather than playing the long game. Perceived cowardice is a fatal flaw in a politician.
Not just Trump to think of beating though, he also has to consider his chances of beating Biden after first saying what he needs to to beat Trump?
I was going to ask RCS for a citation of great Democrat politicians who chickened out challenging Bush 92, but I have thought of a better question. If Biden didn’t run, the list of good Democrat presidential talent would be wafer thin wouldn’t it? On that basis, the future of the Whitehouse is in GOP hands isn’t it, Democrats locked out for several decades due to dearth of presidential material waiting in the wings?
This thread is very close to being one topic! Have we exhausted all there is to say about lavatory hygiene?
If he chickens out, his numerous boosters in the GOP will be looking elsewhere in four years time. And there's no guarantee his governorship will look as shiny by then; quite the opposite.
In four years time, Trump will be too old and whichever of Trump and Biden wins in 2024 will be term-limited in 2028. DeSantis's main danger (other than events, dear boy, events) will be if some other non-Trump Republican runs and wins this time round so will be incumbent in 2028, but the (current!) polls show that's not going to happen. But if DeSantis runs now and loses, whether to Trump or Biden, it's game over.
"Other than events" is not a bad example of what begging the question means. You've laid out an argument, and elided the most significant bit of it.
He’s keeping his nose clean for 2028 or 2032, knows that 2024 is going to be dominated by the Trump sh!t-show.
Lots of smart Democrats decided to sit out 1992 and to wait for a better opportunity in 1996.
That turned out to be a mistake.
If you don't run off a 19% governor win, when you've got national recognition before you even announce, and the GOP leaning press are on your side, when do you run ?
Not to run would almost certainly be seen as chickening out, rather than playing the long game. Perceived cowardice is a fatal flaw in a politician.
Not just Trump to think of beating though, he also has to consider his chances of beating Biden after first saying what he needs to to beat Trump?
I was going to ask RCS for a citation of great Democrat politicians who chickened out challenging Bush 92, but I have thought of a better question. If Biden didn’t run, the list of good Democrat presidential talent would be wafer thin wouldn’t it?
EDIT: If you want to keep up with space stuff, read nasaspaceflight.com. Despite the name, it covers rocketry worldwide. The contributors include a lot of people in the industry.
Yes Biden's speech went down well and offered a key wedge issue for him and the Democrats with the GOP in terms of preserving Social Security and Medicare from cuts.
Trump meanwhile leads DeSantis 42% to 32% in new Yougov of GOP voters
The basic problem for Republicans is the breakdown of their primary electorate after decades of Fox News and talk radio. I would describe it as follows:
40% - the "F*ck You Republicans". Typically rural whites or blue collar whites that actively delight in their politicians being active assholes to those outside their group.
45% - the "Strength and Decorum Republicans". Higher income folks that want their tax cuts and hate being imposed on. They want someone strong to fight back against Democrats but want it done in a way that doesn't make them embarrassed in polite company.
15% - the "Civil and Intellectual Republicans". People that have studies conservative theory, believe in liberal democracy and are intellectually consistent.
Trump obviously scoops up the 40% very quickly because he is the most unrestrained asshole out there. Now in theory the second two groups can join forces to defeat Trump, and polling sometimes suggests this.
But as soon as the primary starts, Trump tears down his rivals and it doesn't hurt him with his 40%, because they like him being an asshole. The victim is now screwed. If they don't fight back and remain above the fray, they seem weak and lose support among the second group. If they do fight back, the Trumpians hate him for attacking their guy, while the Strength and Decorum guys feel he is no better than Trump so he doesn't consolidate them. And the Civil ones go right off him.
And of course, if there are more than two opponents to Trump, Trump romps home in a divided field.
That's astute analysis. The other thing that works for Trump in my view is that your 45% middle group align more naturally with the 40% group, especially in the privacy of the polling station where nobody is watching. And I reckon the 15% is declining in size each year as the Republican brand becomes debased and smart younger voters find it harder to align with the intellectual case for conservatism.
EDIT: If you want to keep up with space stuff, read nasaspaceflight.com. Despite the name, it covers rocketry worldwide. The contributors include a lot of people in the industry.
Thanks very much M.
And thanks too to RP, who I see provided the link as well.
So a few reasons why I don't trust Seymour Hersh's thinly sourced journalism. I've had to deal with his terribly sourced investigations since the August 2013 Sarin attacks, which @DanKaszeta and I picked apart in the Guardian
He’s keeping his nose clean for 2028 or 2032, knows that 2024 is going to be dominated by the Trump sh!t-show.
Lots of smart Democrats decided to sit out 1992 and to wait for a better opportunity in 1996.
That turned out to be a mistake.
If you don't run off a 19% governor win, when you've got national recognition before you even announce, and the GOP leaning press are on your side, when do you run ?
Not to run would almost certainly be seen as chickening out, rather than playing the long game. Perceived cowardice is a fatal flaw in a politician.
Not just Trump to think of beating though, he also has to consider his chances of beating Biden after first saying what he needs to to beat Trump?
I was going to ask RCS for a citation of great Democrat politicians who chickened out challenging Bush 92, but I have thought of a better question. If Biden didn’t run, the list of good Democrat presidential talent would be wafer thin wouldn’t it? ...
Though it's a fair point that the Democratic bench is likely to be significantly stronger in four years time.
Yes Biden's speech went down well and offered a key wedge issue for him and the Democrats with the GOP in terms of preserving Social Security and Medicare from cuts.
Trump meanwhile leads DeSantis 42% to 32% in new Yougov of GOP voters
The basic problem for Republicans is the breakdown of their primary electorate after decades of Fox News and talk radio. I would describe it as follows:
40% - the "F*ck You Republicans". Typically rural whites or blue collar whites that actively delight in their politicians being active assholes to those outside their group.
45% - the "Strength and Decorum Republicans". Higher income folks that want their tax cuts and hate being imposed on. They want someone strong to fight back against Democrats but want it done in a way that doesn't make them embarrassed in polite company.
15% - the "Civil and Intellectual Republicans". People that have studies conservative theory, believe in liberal democracy and are intellectually consistent.
Trump obviously scoops up the 40% very quickly because he is the most unrestrained asshole out there. Now in theory the second two groups can join forces to defeat Trump, and polling sometimes suggests this.
But as soon as the primary starts, Trump tears down his rivals and it doesn't hurt him with his 40%, because they like him being an asshole. The victim is now screwed. If they don't fight back and remain above the fray, they seem weak and lose support among the second group. If they do fight back, the Trumpians hate him for attacking their guy, while the Strength and Decorum guys feel he is no better than Trump so he doesn't consolidate them. And the Civil ones go right off him.
And of course, if there are more than two opponents to Trump, Trump romps home in a divided field.
Not fighting back has worked for DeSantis so far - it's rather seen as his ignoring Trump.
Because the general public is not tuned in yet, as they will be in a primary campaign. If RDS tries to ignore an attack in a debate, he will look weak as hell.
He’s keeping his nose clean for 2028 or 2032, knows that 2024 is going to be dominated by the Trump sh!t-show.
Lots of smart Democrats decided to sit out 1992 and to wait for a better opportunity in 1996.
That turned out to be a mistake.
If you don't run off a 19% governor win, when you've got national recognition before you even announce, and the GOP leaning press are on your side, when do you run ?
Not to run would almost certainly be seen as chickening out, rather than playing the long game. Perceived cowardice is a fatal flaw in a politician.
Not just Trump to think of beating though, he also has to consider his chances of beating Biden after first saying what he needs to to beat Trump?
I was going to ask RCS for a citation of great Democrat politicians who chickened out challenging Bush 92, but I have thought of a better question. If Biden didn’t run, the list of good Democrat presidential talent would be wafer thin wouldn’t it?
No.
You say no (I can’t give you a like for replying for just one word reply) I still convinced Biden the last Democratic President for quite a long while. In fact the response to Buttelgeig, Harris, Sanders, Newsome, Klubacher, is more than no, it’s good grief! What are you going to say, only recently elected Pritzker, flaky weirdo Shapiro, or the even more deeply untrustworthy libertarian Polis? Absolutely none of these names will ever get remotely near the presidency in a battle with a Republican candidate (we all saw how Hilary was turned into mincemeat). Except perhaps the anti lockdown chancer Polis. And even then as an outside bet.
He’s keeping his nose clean for 2028 or 2032, knows that 2024 is going to be dominated by the Trump sh!t-show.
Lots of smart Democrats decided to sit out 1992 and to wait for a better opportunity in 1996.
That turned out to be a mistake.
If you don't run off a 19% governor win, when you've got national recognition before you even announce, and the GOP leaning press are on your side, when do you run ?
Not to run would almost certainly be seen as chickening out, rather than playing the long game. Perceived cowardice is a fatal flaw in a politician.
Not just Trump to think of beating though, he also has to consider his chances of beating Biden after first saying what he needs to to beat Trump?
I was going to ask RCS for a citation of great Democrat politicians who chickened out challenging Bush 92, but I have thought of a better question. If Biden didn’t run, the list of good Democrat presidential talent would be wafer thin wouldn’t it? ...
Though it's a fair point that the Democratic bench is likely to be significantly stronger in four years time.
The US has the same problem we have. The politicians of the future are 'issue' politicians. What we and they need are politicians that can embrace the big and diverse. We're not going to get that though.
So a few reasons why I don't trust Seymour Hersh's thinly sourced journalism. I've had to deal with his terribly sourced investigations since the August 2013 Sarin attacks, which @DanKaszeta and I picked apart in the Guardian
So a few reasons why I don't trust Seymour Hersh's thinly sourced journalism. I've had to deal with his terribly sourced investigations since the August 2013 Sarin attacks, which @DanKaszeta and I picked apart in the Guardian
Quoting Scott Ritter as a source... hmmmm... how shall I put this....
Seymour Hersh's marbles have left the building.
I’m sure it’s a coincidence that his “investigations” tend to exonerate Russia or it’s Proxies and implicate their opponents…
I always like the reverse Kevin Bacon.
Something happens somewhere in the world. Your task is to blame it on US/NATO. If it takes 28 steps, so be it. A 29th that takes the blame beyond US/NATO - that's WRONG.
When the Rwandan Genocide kicked off, the number of twats, who hadn't heard of Rwanda, but were utterly certain that the genocide was US run....
Off topic, but I think a success this big deserves some notice:
"WASHINGTON, D.C.— 66th U.S. Secretary of State Dr. Condoleezza Rice and Former President of the United Republic of Tanzania Dr. Jakaya Mrisho Kikwete will join President George W. Bush for a conversation during PEPFAR at 20, an event marking 20 years of the President’s Emergency Plan for AIDS Relief (PEPFAR) hosted by the George W. Bush Institute at the United States Institute of Peace on Feb. 24 starting at 9:00 a.m. ET. The trio will discuss the inception of PEPFAR, its enormous impact, and how the program is a win for both partner countries and for U.S. foreign policy." source: https://www.bushcenter.org/newsroom/pepfar-at-20
This will annoy some people, but I think it nearly certain that Bush's Christian beliefs were why he proposed this program.
I hope there are no fights at the Guardian over who gets to attend this event.
(Bill Gates recently claimed -- in a Washington Post opinion piece -- that the program has saved 25 million lives, so far. Amazingly, neither Obama nor Trump screwed up the program, though Obama was thinking of doing so. He was, as I recall, discouaged from doing so by Bishop Tutu, among others.)
I've mentioned on here before that I've been receiving treatment for depression for a while, and during that period, about a year of which was spent in Scotland, I wasn't seen by a single doctor in person - all my consultations were over the phone.
In one of these consultations I mentioned that I'd been uncharacteristically tired, sleeping during the day, and I thought it might be a post-Covid symptom, but it was brushed off as a typical symptom of depression, though my depression had never presented in that way before.
I've recently moved to Ireland, which I'd always thought had an even worse health system than Britain, and had an appointment with a GP, in person, recently for a repeat prescription. They decided to order some blood tests, and the result of these tests is that I am severely iron-deficient, and the resulting anaemia would explain my extreme tiredness and lethargy, which hasn't helped to deal with my depression.
With iron supplements I should start to feel more energetic relatively quickly, but under the care of the NHS this would have remained undiagnosed.
My wife moved from Ireland to live with me in 2009, and her experience was the main reason I thought the Irish health system was worse than the NHS, but she says it is clear that it has deteriorated severely since then.
It's obvious to a lot of people in Britain that the NHS is struggling, but you don't know the half of it until you experience health care in another modern European country. It is so much worse then you realise. You deserve better.
He’s keeping his nose clean for 2028 or 2032, knows that 2024 is going to be dominated by the Trump sh!t-show.
Lots of smart Democrats decided to sit out 1992 and to wait for a better opportunity in 1996.
That turned out to be a mistake.
If you don't run off a 19% governor win, when you've got national recognition before you even announce, and the GOP leaning press are on your side, when do you run ?
Not to run would almost certainly be seen as chickening out, rather than playing the long game. Perceived cowardice is a fatal flaw in a politician.
Not just Trump to think of beating though, he also has to consider his chances of beating Biden after first saying what he needs to to beat Trump?
I was going to ask RCS for a citation of great Democrat politicians who chickened out challenging Bush 92, but I have thought of a better question. If Biden didn’t run, the list of good Democrat presidential talent would be wafer thin wouldn’t it?
No.
You say no (I can’t give you a like for replying for just one word reply) I still convinced Biden the last Democratic President for quite a long while. In fact the response to Buttelgeig, Harris, Sanders, Newsome, Klubacher, is more than no, it’s good grief! What are you going to say, only recently elected Pritzker, flaky weirdo Shapiro, or the even more deeply untrustworthy libertarian Polis? Absolutely none of these names will ever get remotely near the presidency in a battle with a Republican candidate (we all saw how Hilary was turned into mincemeat). Except perhaps the anti lockdown chancer Polis. And even then as an outside bet.
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There were some very lucky MPs who had rental agreements that looked extremely dodgy to say the least, no contract, no receipts, paid to mates.
That was possibly the worst SOTU of all time - and Tump did some of them.
He’s keeping his nose clean for 2028 or 2032, knows that 2024 is going to be dominated by the Trump sh!t-show.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhJRzQsLZGg
‘Chlamydia can be cured but there’s no cure for regret.’
Is De Santis made of wood? do we have a duck to weigh him against?
Starmer being middle of the road on policy is evidence that he is both a Hard Right Ultra Tory and A Communist To The Left of Mao?
https://youtube.com/@RubinReport/featured
I have to run away for a couple of hours, because I have a wife and dinner!
Unless both of the other two favourites are clearly out in the next six months, he’ll bide his time..
(Born 1978, same as your good self).
Trump meanwhile leads DeSantis 42% to 32% in new Yougov of GOP voters
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/feb/09/former-sheffield-hallam-mp-jared-omara-jailed-for-four-years
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2023/02/09/ftse-100-markets-live-news-energy-bills-housing-market-musk/
Squeaky bum time.
They were supposed to have Oliver Coppard - who is now Mayor of Sarf Yorkshire. But he had to drop out and as I understand it O'Mara was a Corbynite parachutee.
So it sounds like the vetting process was if he pledged fealty to Jezbollah and would wind up the constituency. Which happened a lot. In Stockton South we managed to avoid having Jessie Jessie Jessie Jo Jacobs imposed on us by doing a backroom deal with the regional director. So the "selection" of Dr Paul Williams over JJJ was literally a couple of us on the phone bagging him quicker than Momentum could get JJJJJ imposed over the regional director's head.
Who did the bagging for O'Mara then...?
And he does.
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/3849675-desantis-edges-closer-to-2024-decision/
If he chickens out, his numerous boosters in the GOP will be looking elsewhere in four years time. And there's no guarantee his governorship will look as shiny by then; quite the opposite.
Whether that makes him a Republican or just a loon is another question.
That turned out to be a mistake.
New European Super League announced, to replace Champions League
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2023/02/09/european-super-league-new-tournament-to-replace-champions-league/
Beating Biden in 2024 may be the only chance Republicans get to become President for a generation
Mortgage flipping, for a start.
“Northern Ireland election delayed until January 2024, as government remains in limbo”
They think January elections are do able, despite campaigning over Christmas, risk of stay at home weather warnings etc.
40% - the "F*ck You Republicans". Typically rural whites or blue collar whites that actively delight in their politicians being active assholes to those outside their group.
45% - the "Strength and Decorum Republicans". Higher income folks that want their tax cuts and hate being imposed on. They want someone strong to fight back against Democrats but want it done in a way that doesn't make them embarrassed in polite company.
15% - the "Civil and Intellectual Republicans". People that have studies conservative theory, believe in liberal democracy and are intellectually consistent.
Trump obviously scoops up the 40% very quickly because he is the most unrestrained asshole out there. Now in theory the second two groups can join forces to defeat Trump, and polling sometimes suggests this.
But as soon as the primary starts, Trump tears down his rivals and it doesn't hurt him with his 40%, because they like him being an asshole. The victim is now screwed. If they don't fight back and remain above the fray, they seem weak and lose support among the second group. If they do fight back, the Trumpians hate him for attacking their guy, while the Strength and Decorum guys feel he is no better than Trump so he doesn't consolidate them. And the Civil ones go right off him.
And of course, if there are more than two opponents to Trump, Trump romps home in a divided field.
That's an odd sort of compliment.
Not to run would almost certainly be seen as chickening out, rather than playing the long game. Perceived cowardice is a fatal flaw in a politician.
The biggest take down of Griffin wasn't the QT appearance, it was when interviewed by Iain Dale. Where Dale said ok, we know your views on immigration etc, lets talk about your other ideas, and because it took him away from his stock area of race he totally blew up as he had no idea how any of the Corbynista type policies could be made possible.
Parties now have until 18 January 2024 to form an executive - if they fail, a new election will then be held within 12 weeks of that date.
Currently USA insulin price is around 8-15 times higher than Europe.
https://aspe.hhs.gov/reports/comparing-insulin-prices-us-other-countries
She was ok (ish) just say 3 months ago but now - no. Which illustrates what I think the real risk with Biden is and why he kind of is too old to run again in an ideal world. He's fine now but could be struggling at some point in a 2nd term.
https://twitter.com/eliothiggins/status/1623693699224829952
Biden's potential lifeline for Florida Democrats
“They have not given up. To the contrary, they are going to fight," said Rep. Kathy Castor.
https://www.politico.com/news/2023/02/09/bidens-potential-lifeline-for-florida-democrats-00081954
I was going to ask RCS for a citation of great Democrat politicians who chickened out challenging Bush 92, but I have thought of a better question. If Biden didn’t run, the list of good Democrat presidential talent would be wafer thin wouldn’t it? On that basis, the future of the Whitehouse is in GOP hands isn’t it, Democrats locked out for several decades due to dearth of presidential material waiting in the wings?
This thread is very close to being one topic! Have we exhausted all there is to say about lavatory hygiene?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-64579269
Fuckit. Shitting hell fuckit basteward.
You've laid out an argument, and elided the most significant bit of it.
EDIT: If you want to keep up with space stuff, read nasaspaceflight.com. Despite the name, it covers rocketry worldwide. The contributors include a lot of people in the industry.
And thanks too to RP, who I see provided the link as well.
Which sounds expensive for the US Government if they don't get at the supply side.
No impact on medical insurance companies.
Seymour Hersh's marbles have left the building.
I still convinced Biden the last Democratic President for quite a long while.
In fact the response to Buttelgeig, Harris, Sanders, Newsome, Klubacher, is more than no, it’s good grief!
What are you going to say, only recently elected Pritzker, flaky weirdo Shapiro, or the even more deeply untrustworthy libertarian Polis? Absolutely none of these names will ever get remotely near the presidency in a battle with a Republican candidate (we all saw how Hilary was turned into mincemeat). Except perhaps the anti lockdown chancer Polis. And even then as an outside bet.
Something happens somewhere in the world. Your task is to blame it on US/NATO. If it takes 28 steps, so be it. A 29th that takes the blame beyond US/NATO - that's WRONG.
When the Rwandan Genocide kicked off, the number of twats, who hadn't heard of Rwanda, but were utterly certain that the genocide was US run....
"My hands are shaking, don't let my heart keep breaking cos ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XhwH_bYeNiE
I can’t really play any instrument, but I did learn how to play “Don’t Make Me Over” on the piano.
"WASHINGTON, D.C.— 66th U.S. Secretary of State Dr. Condoleezza Rice and Former President of the United Republic of Tanzania Dr. Jakaya Mrisho Kikwete will join President George W. Bush for a conversation during PEPFAR at 20, an event marking 20 years of the President’s Emergency Plan for AIDS Relief (PEPFAR) hosted by the George W. Bush Institute at the United States Institute of Peace on Feb. 24 starting at 9:00 a.m. ET. The trio will discuss the inception of PEPFAR, its enormous impact, and how the program is a win for both partner countries and for U.S. foreign policy."
source: https://www.bushcenter.org/newsroom/pepfar-at-20
This will annoy some people, but I think it nearly certain that Bush's Christian beliefs were why he proposed this program.
I hope there are no fights at the Guardian over who gets to attend this event.
(Bill Gates recently claimed -- in a Washington Post opinion piece -- that the program has saved 25 million lives, so far. Amazingly, neither Obama nor Trump screwed up the program, though Obama was thinking of doing so. He was, as I recall, discouaged from doing so by Bishop Tutu, among others.)
I've mentioned on here before that I've been receiving treatment for depression for a while, and during that period, about a year of which was spent in Scotland, I wasn't seen by a single doctor in person - all my consultations were over the phone.
In one of these consultations I mentioned that I'd been uncharacteristically tired, sleeping during the day, and I thought it might be a post-Covid symptom, but it was brushed off as a typical symptom of depression, though my depression had never presented in that way before.
I've recently moved to Ireland, which I'd always thought had an even worse health system than Britain, and had an appointment with a GP, in person, recently for a repeat prescription. They decided to order some blood tests, and the result of these tests is that I am severely iron-deficient, and the resulting anaemia would explain my extreme tiredness and lethargy, which hasn't helped to deal with my depression.
With iron supplements I should start to feel more energetic relatively quickly, but under the care of the NHS this would have remained undiagnosed.
My wife moved from Ireland to live with me in 2009, and her experience was the main reason I thought the Irish health system was worse than the NHS, but she says it is clear that it has deteriorated severely since then.
It's obvious to a lot of people in Britain that the NHS is struggling, but you don't know the half of it until you experience health care in another modern European country. It is so much worse then you realise. You deserve better.