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  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 49,950
    At least somebody in the audience got a ball to take home
  • GhedebravGhedebrav Posts: 3,860
    It’s been a tight game but not like France don’t deserve the win. It was in England’s hands.
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 26,183
    Driver said:

    tlg86 said:

    Driver said:

    So difficult for a player to score 2 penalties in a game.

    Alan Shearer and Ruud Van Nistelrooy would disagree.
    "difficult" is not "impossible".
    Of course, it was that way of thinking that led to that stupid Pires and Henry penalty debacle.
  • WillGWillG Posts: 2,366
    Unfortunate but we gave it a good go
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 32,692
    Maybe someone else should have taken the penalty.
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 49,950
    And another one
  • That was a worse penalty than Chris Waddle's in Turin.
  • Give 'em hell, Harry Maguire!
  • pingping Posts: 3,805
    Andy_JS said:

    Maybe someone else should have taken the penalty.

    You’re one of the funniest posters on this site. I don’t know if you mean to be, but you’re often hilarious!
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 17,514
    I’d say we’ve been better tonight than in the Euro final and the last WC semi. I think France will win the whole thing, so no disgrace.
  • GhedebravGhedebrav Posts: 3,860
    Nigelb said:

    V funny.

    Keeping up your standards for charm and sense of humour.
    Well done.
    Let ‘em have their fun. God knows I enjoyed watching Ronaldo blubbing earlier.
  • GhedebravGhedebrav Posts: 3,860

    I’d say we’ve been better tonight than in the Euro final and the last WC semi. I think France will win the whole thing, so no disgrace.

    Yeah, I agree.
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 26,183
    Feel for Kane as he’s been excellent tonight.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 32,692
    ping said:

    Andy_JS said:

    Maybe someone else should have taken the penalty.

    You’re one of the funniest posters on this site. I don’t know if you mean to be, but you’re often hilarious!
    I'm not a football expert.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 71,506
    Ghedebrav said:

    Nigelb said:

    V funny.

    Keeping up your standards for charm and sense of humour.
    Well done.
    Let ‘em have their fun. God knows I enjoyed watching Ronaldo blubbing earlier.
    Oh, I don’t mind.
    But a modicum of wit would be nice.
  • GhedebravGhedebrav Posts: 3,860
    The real losers are anyone who’s had to listen to Matterface & Dixon wittering on with their constant bollocks.
  • tlg86 said:

    Feel for Kane as he’s been excellent tonight.

    If he goes his entire without winning a trophy will he be the greatest England player to have never won an honour?
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 17,514
    Curse of ITV. Needs an act of parliament that ITV never show a meaningful England match again.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 71,506

    I’d say we’ve been better tonight than in the Euro final and the last WC semi. I think France will win the whole thing, so no disgrace.

    Except the ref ?
  • Know nothing about the game, but this is exciting.
  • GhedebravGhedebrav Posts: 3,860
    France have defended better than I expected.
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 26,183

    Curse of ITV. Needs an act of parliament that ITV never show a meaningful England match again.

    The bbc gambled on England making the semi. They tempted fate.
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 17,514
    tlg86 said:

    Curse of ITV. Needs an act of parliament that ITV never show a meaningful England match again.

    The bbc gambled on England making the semi. They tempted fate.
    I don’t care whose fault it it, it must never, ever happen again.
  • V sad.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 71,506
    .

    Curse of ITV. Needs an act of parliament that ITV never show a meaningful England match again.

    No, I blame Brexit.
  • GhedebravGhedebrav Posts: 3,860
    France v Morocco is a tasty semi final.
  • Send on Trent to take this freekick,
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 52,699
    This world cup demands we score.....
  • GardenwalkerGardenwalker Posts: 21,298
    You can stick your pain au chocolat up your jacksie.
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 17,514

    V sad.

    Are you a nicer person in real life? ‘Cos you are a part on here.
  • TimSTimS Posts: 13,062

    V sad.

    I still don’t understand this attitude. It seems oddly parochial in the 21st century.
  • pingping Posts: 3,805
    It’s ooooooooover
  • V funny.
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 49,950
    If your national football team has lost a big match, it can be disappointing and frustrating. However, there are some steps you can take to console yourself and move on from the loss. Some tips for coping with a football team's loss include:
    • Acknowledge your emotions: It is natural to feel disappointed, frustrated, or angry after a loss. Allow yourself to feel these emotions, and try not to bottle them up or deny them.
    • Take care of yourself: After a loss, it is important to take care of yourself physically and emotionally. This may include eating well, getting enough sleep, and engaging in activities that you enjoy.
    • Talk to friends and family: Sharing your feelings with friends and family can help you feel supported and understood, and can provide a sense of connection and camaraderie.
    • Focus on the positives: While a loss can be disappointing, there may be some positive aspects of the game or the team's performance that you can focus on. For example, you might appreciate the effort and determination of the players, or the excitement and drama of the match.
    • Look ahead: While a loss can be disheartening, it is important to remember that it is only one game, and that there will be future opportunities for your team to succeed. Try to focus on the future and the potential for your team to improve and achieve success.
    Overall, coping with a football team's loss can be difficult, but with the right mindset and support, you can move on and continue to support your team.

  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 49,950
    What’s with the French player lying down behind that wall?
  • Ok, now is the traditional time to unleash the conspiracy theories.
  • IanB2 said:

    What’s with the French player lying down behind that wall?

    The draft excluder to stop the free kick going under the wall when the wall jumps.
  • pingping Posts: 3,805
    edited December 2022
    Pressure on Southgate, now.

    I recon he’s earned another tournament, though.

    What does PB think?
  • Allez la France !

    Allez l’Écosse !

    Quelle dommage.
  • TimSTimS Posts: 13,062
    edited December 2022
    IanB2 said:

    What’s with the French player lying down behind that wall?

    Stopping a ball along the ground as the wall jump up
  • DriverDriver Posts: 4,963
    TimS said:

    V sad.

    I still don’t understand this attitude. It seems oddly parochial in the 21st century.
    What you need to understand is that Dickson is an outright Anglophobe - a true racist.
  • GhedebravGhedebrav Posts: 3,860
    IanB2 said:

    What’s with the French player lying down behind that wall?

    The ‘draught excluder’ - basically stops canny free kicks going under the wall, who usually instinctively jump.
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 17,514
    Not sure Kane is going to be Sports Personality of the Year now…
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 17,514
    IanB2 said:

    What’s with the French player lying down behind that wall?

    Blocks a low shot under a jumping wall.
  • RazedabodeRazedabode Posts: 3,028
    Part of me is glad that’s over - can enjoy the next couple of games now

    Though I’d support a ban on ITV showing games again
  • kane wants sacking
  • That was a worse penalty than Chris Waddle's in Turin.

    :)


  • Allez la France !

    Allez l’Écosse !

    Quelle dommage.

    Fucking hell, that's nearly as embarrassing as Chirac claiming England's 2003 Rugby world cup victory.
  • GhedebravGhedebrav Posts: 3,860

    Ok, now is the traditional time to unleash the conspiracy theories.

    My main one is that France defended well and England failed to capitalise on their pressure, especially with a missed penalty.
  • pingping Posts: 3,805
    I’m back to boycotting Qatar.
  • What a shame. England were great today.
  • Allez la France !

    Allez l’Écosse !

    Quelle dommage.

    It's not about anglophobia, ladies & gentlemen.
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 49,950
    So we can all now happily cheer for Morocco
  • nico679nico679 Posts: 6,277
    edited December 2022
    You have to feel for Harry Kane .

    England played well and France were average . Not much else to say really , very unlucky to lose .
  • GhedebravGhedebrav Posts: 3,860
    ping said:

    Pressure on Southgate, now.

    I recon he’s earned another tournament, though.

    What does PB think?

    100% he stays.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,478

    Allez la France !

    Allez l’Écosse !

    Quelle dommage.

    Fucking hell, that's nearly as embarrassing as Chirac claiming England's 2003 Rugby world cup victory.
    He's trying to produce some more offshore wind for Scotland, so they can retake the lead he thought they had.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 71,506
    IanB2 said:

    If your national football team has lost a big match, it can be disappointing and frustrating. However, there are some steps you can take to console yourself and move on from the loss. Some tips for coping with a football team's loss include…

    Blame the ref.

    Distract yourself by questioning Stuart’s parentage.

    Console yourself that at least we went out on penalties with the minimum of fuss.
  • So we lost on penalties - after a fashion :(
  • ThomasNasheThomasNashe Posts: 5,331
    ping said:

    Pressure on Southgate, now.

    I recon he’s earned another tournament, though.

    What does PB think?

    He’s not under any pressure.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 52,699
    Ghedebrav said:

    France v Morocco is a tasty semi final.

    We are all Morrocans now.
  • geoffwgeoffw Posts: 8,745
    Well played by both teams. C'mon France now
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 49,950
    nico679 said:

    You have to feel for Harry Kane .

    England played well and France were average . Not much else to say really , very unlucky to lose .

    Yet the game was hardly littered with chances
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 17,514
    IanB2 said:

    What’s with the French player lying down behind that wall?

    Blocks a low shot under a jumping wall.
    Ghedebrav said:

    ping said:

    Pressure on Southgate, now.

    I recon he’s earned another tournament, though.

    What does PB think?

    100% he stays.
    He can do what he likes. He’s earned the right to stay for as long as he wants.
  • Ok, now is the traditional time to unleash the conspiracy theories.

    Keir Starmer demoralized Team England due to his boring personality, hatred for growth and ignorance (or disrespect?) for the off-sides rule.
  • ydoethur said:

    Allez la France !

    Allez l’Écosse !

    Quelle dommage.

    Fucking hell, that's nearly as embarrassing as Chirac claiming England's 2003 Rugby world cup victory.
    He's trying to produce some more offshore wind for Scotland, so they can retake the lead he thought they had.
    It's a bad year for him, he fled to Sweden and now finds himself under the protective umbrella of the UK over in Sweden thanks to NATO.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 53,933
    Really disappointed for England. Played well in that second half. Deserved better.
    Think Rashford should have been on earlier although in fairness Foden much better second half.
  • ping said:

    Pressure on Southgate, now.

    I recon he’s earned another tournament, though.

    What does PB think?

    get rid - been very lucky in the past
  • DriverDriver Posts: 4,963
    Ghedebrav said:

    Ok, now is the traditional time to unleash the conspiracy theories.

    My main one is that France defended well and England failed to capitalise on their pressure, especially with a missed penalty.
    England played really well, especially in the second half. But France are a better team and it needs most things to go for you to overhaul that. And most things went against us - at least three times the ball bounced just wrong in the six yard box, the first French goal came from a foul not given, and England should have had a first half penalty.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,240
    Saka Motm for me there
  • solarflaresolarflare Posts: 3,718

    Ok, now is the traditional time to unleash the conspiracy theories.

    The match ball was replaced in the first 30 seconds. COINCIDENCE OR CONSPIRAC...no, it is just coincidence.
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 17,514
    That’s the standard we need to be at. Keep up there and eventually we may get the luck needed. Every tournament winner has some luck along the way - France have had some tonight.
  • Ghedebrav said:

    Ok, now is the traditional time to unleash the conspiracy theories.

    My main one is that France defended well and England failed to capitalise on their pressure, especially with a missed penalty.
    Missed the start, are England still taking the knee?
    No doubt Woke has destroyed the fighting spirit of ar lads will be one theory..
  • DriverDriver Posts: 4,963
    Pulpstar said:

    Saka Motm for me there

    Lloris. Multiple key saves.
  • BozzaBozza Posts: 37

    So we lost on penalties - after a fashion :(

    We weren't given enough.
  • kjhkjh Posts: 11,858
    Very good game. Very sporting from both sides. Shame England are out, but good performance.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,478

    ydoethur said:

    Allez la France !

    Allez l’Écosse !

    Quelle dommage.

    Fucking hell, that's nearly as embarrassing as Chirac claiming England's 2003 Rugby world cup victory.
    He's trying to produce some more offshore wind for Scotland, so they can retake the lead he thought they had.
    It's a bad year for him, he fled to Sweden and now finds himself under the protective umbrella of the UK over in Sweden thanks to NATO.
    ISTR he told us Sweden would never accept NATO membership as well.
  • StockyStocky Posts: 10,230
    edited December 2022
    nico679 said:

    You have to feel for Harry Kane .

    England played well and France were average . Not much else to say really , very unlucky to lose .

    Yep - sums up my thoughts. Plus a dodgy ref.

    England 57% possession, 16 shots (8), 8 on target (5).

    France was mighty lucky tonight.
  • ThomasNasheThomasNashe Posts: 5,331
    edited December 2022
    Driver said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Saka Motm for me there

    Lloris. Multiple key saves.
    Griezmann
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 49,950

    nico679 said:

    You have to feel for Harry Kane .

    England played well and France were average . Not much else to say really , very unlucky to lose .

    Luck doesn't enter into it. There is no more powerful force in English football than the Curse of ITV.
    Well, there is. I reckon Leon secretly tipped an England win.
  • once again England meet an elite team and lose -
  • TimSTimS Posts: 13,062
    edited December 2022
    Driver said:

    TimS said:

    V sad.

    I still don’t understand this attitude. It seems oddly parochial in the 21st century.
    What you need to understand is that Dickson is an outright Anglophobe - a true racist.
    Well the good thing for non-phobes is we have a fascinating semi coming up and I’ll be equally happy to see France win the whole thing or Morocco get to the final. To be fair England-Morocco wouldn’t have had quite the same colonial energy. Not quite France-Algeria but a decent proxy.

  • Only saw the final five minutes or thereabouts, but though both England and France played well.

    Not that I know squat about tactics, plays, performance but my impression was each side playing hard but tired, at a high but hardly perfect level. Except maybe the French goal tender.

    And really warmed to Harry Maguire. Despite NOT knowing he existed before just now.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 53,933
    Pulpstar said:

    Saka Motm for me there

    Taking him off was odd. He was the most dangerous player.
  • TazTaz Posts: 14,561
    a gallant loser is just a loser.
  • WhisperingOracleWhisperingOracle Posts: 9,185
    edited December 2022

    once again England meet an elite team and lose -

    Except this time they were really good, and on balance of things, really should have won. This wasn't 90s England, hoofing it around , though, was it.
  • TimSTimS Posts: 13,062

    Ghedebrav said:

    Ok, now is the traditional time to unleash the conspiracy theories.

    My main one is that France defended well and England failed to capitalise on their pressure, especially with a missed penalty.
    Missed the start, are England still taking the knee?
    No doubt Woke has destroyed the fighting spirit of ar lads will be one theory..
    I very much doubt that will be anyone’s theory.
  • ThomasNasheThomasNashe Posts: 5,331
    IanB2 said:

    nico679 said:

    You have to feel for Harry Kane .

    England played well and France were average . Not much else to say really , very unlucky to lose .

    Luck doesn't enter into it. There is no more powerful force in English football than the Curse of ITV.
    Well, there is. I reckon Leon secretly tipped an England win.
    Hate to say it, but I think he correctly predicted the score.
  • DriverDriver Posts: 4,963
    DavidL said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Saka Motm for me there

    Taking him off was odd. He was the most dangerous player.
    5 Live said he picked up an injury.
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 49,950

    once again England meet an elite team and lose -

    Except this time they were really good, and on balance of things, really should have won. This wasn't 90s England, hoofing it around though, was it.
    You’d be right if we’d been bombarding their goal area with chances. But we weren’t.
  • TazTaz Posts: 14,561

    once again England meet an elite team and lose -

    Clearly good but not great.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,478

    IanB2 said:

    nico679 said:

    You have to feel for Harry Kane .

    England played well and France were average . Not much else to say really , very unlucky to lose .

    Luck doesn't enter into it. There is no more powerful force in English football than the Curse of ITV.
    Well, there is. I reckon Leon secretly tipped an England win.
    Hate to say it, but I think he correctly predicted the score.
    If I know Leon, he predicted every score from 5-0 to 0-5 so he could say afterwards he predicted it correctly.
  • once again England meet an elite team and lose -

    Except this time they were really good, and on balance of things, really should have won. This wasn't 90s England, hoofing it around though, was it.
    well they lost again to an elite team .They did not deserve to win anyway- got 2 penalties did not look like scoring in open play
  • DriverDriver Posts: 4,963
    edited December 2022
    IanB2 said:

    once again England meet an elite team and lose -

    Except this time they were really good, and on balance of things, really should have won. This wasn't 90s England, hoofing it around though, was it.
    You’d be right if we’d been bombarding their goal area with chances. But we weren’t.
    Stats say otherwise.


  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 48,821

    once again England meet an elite team and lose -

    Except this time they were really good, and on balance of things, really should have won. This wasn't 90s England, hoofing it around though, was it.
    well they lost again to an elite team .They did not deserve to win anyway- got 2 penalties did not look like scoring in open play
    Loris did a couple of great saves. Pickford did at least one too.
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 29,423
    Pulpstar said:

    Saka Motm for me there

    Greizmann was immense tonight.
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 49,950

    IanB2 said:

    nico679 said:

    You have to feel for Harry Kane .

    England played well and France were average . Not much else to say really , very unlucky to lose .

    Luck doesn't enter into it. There is no more powerful force in English football than the Curse of ITV.
    Well, there is. I reckon Leon secretly tipped an England win.
    Hate to say it, but I think he correctly predicted the score.
    He tried to jinx the French by turning his curse upon them, but it doesn’t work like that; a power mis-used turns upon its owner and hence his joke prediction came true.
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 29,423
    Imagine if Kante, Pogba and Benzema had been fit to be in their squad.
  • TimSTimS Posts: 13,062
    Taz said:

    a gallant loser is just a loser.

    Our bipolar attitude to England football makes its predictable appearance every 2 years. England can be only terrible or world beating,

    The truth is England is a good team, probably not the best, the top 8 of the world is roughly par and a decent result, and if you compare our recent record with other good teams like Belgium, Netherlands, Argentina, Uruguay, Portugal and various others it’s not out of line with form.
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