Categories
LAB’s VAT on private education plan set to be big issue – politicalbetting.com
LAB’s VAT on private education plan set to be big issue – politicalbetting.com
Intriguing idea that removing VAT exemptions from private schools would be “class war.” Not a term I think is necessarily helpful but since it’s been brought up, here’s an alternative take on class war in modern Britain. pic.twitter.com/MWAXcTYWyK
0
This discussion has been closed.
Comments
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Varsity_Blues_scandal
It seemed to me that there were two things going on: first, that parents were competing with other parents, second that parents were trying to make sure their kids met the right people, for business contacts, and for marriage.
(I don't know whether those thoughts apply to schools in he UK.)
I might even read it.
'The judiciary, for instance, should surely reflect society much better.'
No. It doesn't need to reflect society. It needs to be qualified and respected; utterly impartial.
Starmer started with the state money that Sunak’s old school, Winchester, receives.
I asked this question of Jonathan on the last thread and never got a response: what state money does Winchester receive?
Police investigated “many very real and disgusting” threats against the Duchess of Sussex while she was living in Britain, the Met’s former counter terror chief, has disclosed.
Asked in an interview if the threats against the duchess were credible, Neil Basu replied: “Absolutely, and if you’d seen the stuff that was written and you were receiving it . . . the kind of rhetoric that’s online, if you don’t know what I know, you would feel under threat all of the time.”
He said that there had been threats to Meghan more than once, adding: “We had teams investigating it. People have been prosecuted for those threats.”
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/meghan-was-under-constant-threat-says-former-police-chief-neil-basu-l6cv3htr6
Starmer ended with a spiel about Sunak being weak. (“Every week he gets pushed around and every week he gets weaker”). Sunak has his own weak jibe in response. (“Too weak to confirm no one on the picket line.”) This sounds like an argument about character. In reality, a leader’s “strength” or “weakness” is probably 80% a consequence of political context (how much space they have available to act), and at most only 20% a matter of personal authority and leadership virility. But the public at large won’t take much convincing that Sunak is weak, given everything that is happening in his party and in the country at large (see 9.21am), and so this is an easy hit for Labour.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2022/nov/30/rishi-sunak-keir-starmer-pmqs-latest-live-news-uk-politics?page=with:block-63874d448f08ec68b6015133#block-63874d448f08ec68b6015133
Ending charity status is likely to see the loss of these advantages and also children leaving and adding to the state sector
I expect in this climate it will help Labour but you only need to see just how many Labour mps were privately educated themselves or their children to realise the hypocrisy in this policy
As a saver, I saved up for my kids education a decade ago, not everyone is in such a lucky position.
Savers can access the highest interest rate in almost a decade from Thursday, following the launch of a new “best buy” account paying 7pc.
First Direct has announced it will double the rate on its regular saver from 3.5pc to 7pc on Thursday December 1. It will replace Monmouthshire Building Society, which offers an account paying 5.5pc, as the market-leading provider.
This is the highest rate since January 2013, according to the analyst Moneyfacts.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/personal-banking/savings/top-savings-rate-hits-10-year-high-7pc/
My tactic this World Cup has been to bet against the team most physically tired in the last half hour or so, and the Tunisians were out on their feet so I backed the draw (ie France to equalize).
I think the "tax on aspiration" argument was used back then, with some success.
That said, private schooling was, I think, a bit less exclusive back then. I think it's a lot less affordable now, and there are fewer ways into it apart from having very very rich parents.
And the Aussies for progressing, even if they did crush Tunisian dreams in the process.
Let them pay VAT.
But, it’s not something I’m going lose sleep over either way, there are bigger issues out there.
Scotland Independence Referendum Voting Intention (26-27 November):
Yes, for Independence: 49% (+5)
No, against Independence: 45% (-2)
Don't Know: 5% (-4)
Changes +/- 18 September 2021
https://twitter.com/RedfieldWilton/status/1597999017367343104
Scottish National Party 41% (-4)
Labour 31% (+12)
Conservative 16% (-9)
Liberal Democrat 8% (+2)
Green 2% (+1)
Reform 2% (new)
Other 1% (–)
Changes with GE2019.
https://twitter.com/cjayanetti/status/1597999979745812481
Unfortunately, I haven't wronged them in any way, so I shan't be able to.
Not happening for CON in Scotland. Might hold the two borders seats and that's it.
And I'm not sure we do expect our PMs to be in touch or know what people are experiencing. I think so long as we think they will improve our situation, regardless of how well they know what people are experiencing, people don't care.
However, the basic point that Sunak appears weak to the public, because his position and the context is weak regardless of his personal quality, I think is true.
They are a symptom, not a cause: the cause is aspirational wealthy parents being prepared to do almost anything to ensure that their offspring has either the same chances in life that they did, or significantly better ones.
The only ways to "fix" the "inequality" that results in, are to either confiscate all their money, or ban them from caring about their children, or forcing all parents to care as much. None of which are close to viable.
Make private schools more expensive by removing tax breaks, and most parents affected will find some way to cope (and the schools will pare back their scholarship programmes to help meet them halfway). Ban them outright and the parents will find other ways to use their money to achieve the same general goals (after school clubs, tutors, etc).
Sure, you can make the argument in pure economic terms that the Treasury would rather have cash now than the potential benefits of the scholarship programme drifting through in future. But any politician who genuinely thinks this will affect inequality is someone who should not be allowed within a million miles of elected office.
spending my Iran winning Group B winningstrying to work out where Argentina will finish tonight.It’s the lack of contrition that is a consequence of his public school education. I think Truss, deep down, knows she really fucked up.
The public school prick doesn’t think he’s done anything wrong. On reflection, I’m fairly ambivalent about the taxation of these schools. It’s the culture that needs to change. Not a couple of token poor kids on scholarships, or opening up the swimming pool to the plebs on sunday evenings, or whatever.
Real culture change. Us normal people, with normal educations, understand that actions have consequences. The pricks that these institutions churn out, don’t.
Damian Hinds, the prisons minister, blamed the crisis on a “sudden increase” in the prison population as a result of the barristers’ strike over the summer.
The drop in trials led to a spike in the number of offenders being held in prison on remand, which was already abnormally high owing to the courts backlog caused by the Covid-19 pandemic.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/uk-runs-out-prison-cells-space-emergency-government-9p75b68v0
It's one of those sugar rush policies for the left, it feels good while you hammer the rich but the end result is everyone ends up worse off.
However, this is a worldwide phenomenon. See the Japanese and the Thais still 100% wearing masks OUTSIDE
Covid has made the world statist, even communist. Perhaps that was China's fiendish plan all along. Tho it doesn't seem to be panning out too well for them, either
I was like 21, there was no way I was getting a mortgage straight out of university, so my mother persuaded my father to take out a mortgage with me on it as well.
Ok they helped with the deposit, and grandma and grandad Eagles helped with the furnishings and I paid them back.
Go or not go? Am a bit knacked
If Labour win the next election the union is probably safe until the 2030s.
Time to make it as difficult as possible
Why shouldn't it be applied to private education?
It's the Tim-nice-but-dims who sailed through private school and Oxbridge with as little talent as the average supermarket shelf-stacker*, that really piss me off.
They take up, and screw-up, roles way beyond their capability because they've got the paper qualifications and/or the connections. And the country is the poorer because of it.
I saw lots of them in the finance industry.
Rant over ;-)
(*Unfair on shelf-stackers, to whom I apologise.)
20% hike on fees gonna price 20% of indigenous punters out of the market, and the gap will be filled by Chinese and Russian hyper rich. Not in the country's interests.
Jamie Wallis, the MP who claimed before his trial for crashing a car while dressed as a woman (in which the judge said he was 'not credible') that he 'IDs' as a woman, and ran a 'sugar daddy' website, has been named a member of the UK parliament's Women and Equalities Committee
https://twitter.com/ripx4nutmeg/status/1597982021988384768
I suspect this could be the same.
So for what it's worth here's my "aspiration". That as a nation we choose to spend as much money as we can afford on a brilliant, high-quality state education system in which every single kid, whatever their background, can benefit from superb teaching and an excellent curriculum designed to maximise each student's achievements and help them to reach whatever role they aspire to.
That's real aspiration. And there isn't a touch of class envy in it.
The clue's in the name.
Still true though
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/616728
It's the new Covid mentality again. STAY HOME. Pathetic
https://redfieldandwiltonstrategies.com/scottish-independence-referendum--westminster-voting-intention-26-27-november-2022/