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  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,194
    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    The government now spends more on housing benefit than on transport or the Home Office.

    https://twitter.com/georgeeaton/status/1592164903544315905

    Should be abolished. 😠
    And how are those on low incomes supposed to house themselves if they cannot afford to rent without housing benefit and there is not enough public housing, even if more is being built again?
    Workhouses?

    They seem to have closed a lot of them. Still one at Southwell though I had to pay £10 to get in or was it to get out I forget
    Workhouses being reintroduced having been originally introduced by a classical Liberal government in the 19th century would I am sure suit Bart fine
    Workhouses in their 'classic' form were set up under the New Poor Law of 1834. The Liberal Party was not founded until 1859 when the Peelites, Radicals, and Whigs merged to form one party.
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,640
    ydoethur said:

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    The government now spends more on housing benefit than on transport or the Home Office.

    https://twitter.com/georgeeaton/status/1592164903544315905

    Should be abolished. 😠
    And how are those on low incomes supposed to house themselves if they cannot afford to rent without housing benefit and there is not enough public housing, even if more is being built again?
    Workhouses?

    They seem to have closed a lot of them. Still one at Southwell though I had to pay £10 to get in or was it to get out I forget
    Workhouses being reintroduced having been originally introduced by a classical Liberal government in the 19th century would I am sure suit Bart fine
    Workhouses in their 'classic' form were set up under the New Poor Law of 1834. The Liberal Party was not founded until 1859 when the Peelites, Radicals, and Whigs merged to form one party.
    He has got you there HYUFD
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 17,214
    Just came across this on Twitter - comparison of old and new maps, fully zoomable. Have discovered our house is built on the site of a fever hospital. Did not know that.

    https://bothness.github.io/ons-basemaps/#/zoomstack-outdoor//os-1900//13,-2.19026,51.19681
  • paulyork64paulyork64 Posts: 2,507
    Nigelb said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Eustice: "We did not actually need to give Australia nor New Zealand full liberalisation of beef and sheep. It was not in our economic interests to do so. And neither Australia nor New Zealand had anything to offer in return for such a grand concession."

    https://twitter.com/lewis_goodall/status/1592209448986198016

    Perhaps she had a, not unreasonable, view that free trade was a good thing, and that British consumers would benefit from cheaper lamb?
    I never understand why pork is so cheap and lamb is so expensive.

    I mean, pork requires more infra and work than sheep.

    Weird.
    Looking at pig farms (notably in Norfolk), and sheep farms; pigs can be kept in much closer captivity than sheep. My *guess* is that you get far fewer sheep per hectare (*) than pigs, much reducing the cost.

    As an aside, my dad says that pigs are not dirty; they are very clean animals. It's only the way we keep them that makes them dirty.

    (*) Acre for you ;)
    The other strange thing about sheep is how the fleece these days has virtually no value.

    I think they get something like 50p for a fleece? And it's much more sustainable to use wool for clothes than synthetics.

    Learnt from Clarkson's farm. More weird.
    Shearing costs money; scouring the wool costs more, and is an energy intensive process. Turning the fibre into cloth is again considerably more expensive than processing synthetics.
    A lot of UK wool is way too coarse for garments anyway.

    Annual cotton production is about ten times that of wool; synthetics nearly four times that of cotton.
    In worldwide clothing terms, wool is essentially an irrelevance.
    Yes shearing can cost more than the fleece is worth. The Wiltshire breed sheds it's wool which saves the hassle. Also Easycare, crossbred from the Wiltshire.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 35,899
    NEW: ITV News/YouGov poll on the cost of living has found

    -78% of people think the govt is handling the crisis badly
    -57% are finding it hard to pay utility bills
    -26% struggling to pay rent/mortgage
    -24% struggling to make credit card/loan payments

    https://www.itv.com/news/2022-11-14/half-of-brits-struggling-to-pay-bills-as-debt-charities-see-surge-in-activity
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,640

    Just came across this on Twitter - comparison of old and new maps, fully zoomable. Have discovered our house is built on the site of a fever hospital. Did not know that.

    https://bothness.github.io/ons-basemaps/#/zoomstack-outdoor//os-1900//13,-2.19026,51.19681

    Hope you are well.

    Olivia Newton John died on a Saturday night and they tried to tell us it wasnt of a fever

    I dont believe it TBH
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,194
    edited November 2022

    ydoethur said:

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    The government now spends more on housing benefit than on transport or the Home Office.

    https://twitter.com/georgeeaton/status/1592164903544315905

    Should be abolished. 😠
    And how are those on low incomes supposed to house themselves if they cannot afford to rent without housing benefit and there is not enough public housing, even if more is being built again?
    Workhouses?

    They seem to have closed a lot of them. Still one at Southwell though I had to pay £10 to get in or was it to get out I forget
    Workhouses being reintroduced having been originally introduced by a classical Liberal government in the 19th century would I am sure suit Bart fine
    Workhouses in their 'classic' form were set up under the New Poor Law of 1834. The Liberal Party was not founded until 1859 when the Peelites, Radicals, and Whigs merged to form one party.
    He has got you there HYUFD
    I'm willing to bet he will now argue that 'classical liberalism' is wider than 'the Liberal Party.'
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 56,981

    Scott_xP said:

    @sampullara Part of today will be turning off the “microservices” bloatware. Less than 20% are actually needed for Twitter to work!
    https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1592177471654604800

    Yeah, this guy is a GENIUS...

    apparently they didnt turn off 2-factor authentication but they DID turn off the service that sends you the 2-factor authentication code. so if you log out and try to log in with an authentication code you simply wont receive one. lol. lmao https://twitter.com/zachsilberberg/status/1592228112770924544

    All the people calling Elon Musk a moron will look pretty stupid if he turns Twitter around.
    Elon Musk is not a moron.

    He's an incredibly smart and driven person.

    But he's also making a lot of very rapid business decisions, without knowing the technical consequences of those decisions.

    I would also say that the skills needed to realise the opportunity in space travel by using standard components and iterating rapidly, and in electric vehicles, are not the same as those needed to nurture and foster a community of users.

    Musk does best where he finds a very strong manager who can take his brilliant insights, and make them work. And who is also self confident (and trusted enough) to push back and be taken seriously. Gwynne Shotwell at SpaceX, for example, is the person who runs it. Elon has brilliant ideas and sees the big picture. But Ms Shotwell is the person who makes sure that things work as they should. That combination of drive & insight (Musk) and execution skills (Shotwell) is what makes things work. I am far from convinced that Musk has the execution skills needed to make Twitter work.

    Should he find a strong COO, then that changes. But for now...
  • WA 3rd Congressional District - Ticket Splitting US House versus US Senate

    First, current vote totals for US House

    Marie Gluesenkamp Perez (Dem) 154,169 50.5%
    Joe Kent (Rep) 149,548 49.0%
    writein 1,733 0.57%

    Numbers below show the difference between % cast for US House candidates in three largest counties of WA03, and % cast in these counties in US Senate race for, respectively, Democrat Patty Murray and Republican Tiffany Smiley

    (Don't have full district comparison because don't have breakdown for US Senate race in part of one county that is within 3rd district.)

    CLARK COUNTY (65% of total 3rd District vote)
    Perez +4.0% ahead of Murray
    Kent -4.5% behind Smiley
    writein +0.5% ahead of writeins in US Senate race

    COWLITZ (14% of WA03 vote)
    Perez +5.2%
    Kent -5.6%
    writein +0.3%

    LEWIS (11% of WA03 vote and also most Republican county)
    Perez +3.7%
    Kent -4.1%
    writein +0.3%

    Conclusion - That 4% or more of voters who supported Tiffany Smiley did NOT vote for Joe Kent; instead, most voted for Marie Perez, classic ticket splitting.

    In other words, way more than the current 1.5% margin of victory for Perez over Kent.

    Also some wrote in another choice rather than vote for Kent or Perez; my guess is that the lion's share of the write-ins are for Jaime Herrera Beutler, the GOP incumbent defeated in August primary.
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 17,214

    Just came across this on Twitter - comparison of old and new maps, fully zoomable. Have discovered our house is built on the site of a fever hospital. Did not know that.

    https://bothness.github.io/ons-basemaps/#/zoomstack-outdoor//os-1900//13,-2.19026,51.19681

    Hope you are well.

    Olivia Newton John died on a Saturday night and they tried to tell us it wasnt of a fever

    I dont believe it TBH
    We have found a fair bit of brick rubble which we had assumed was the builders being sloppy. Now suspect not.

    Sounds great for ghost stories.
  • paulyork64paulyork64 Posts: 2,507

    Speaking of lifes little mysteries

    Why do they always build castles at the top of hills


    Plays hell with my angina


    Very inconsiderate

    Which one? Plenty manage without but the height is handy.
  • rcs1000 said:

    Scott_xP said:

    @sampullara Part of today will be turning off the “microservices” bloatware. Less than 20% are actually needed for Twitter to work!
    https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1592177471654604800

    Yeah, this guy is a GENIUS...

    apparently they didnt turn off 2-factor authentication but they DID turn off the service that sends you the 2-factor authentication code. so if you log out and try to log in with an authentication code you simply wont receive one. lol. lmao https://twitter.com/zachsilberberg/status/1592228112770924544

    All the people calling Elon Musk a moron will look pretty stupid if he turns Twitter around.
    Elon Musk is not a moron.

    He's an incredibly smart and driven person.

    But he's also making a lot of very rapid business decisions, without knowing the technical consequences of those decisions.

    I would also say that the skills needed to realise the opportunity in space travel by using standard components and iterating rapidly, and in electric vehicles, are not the same as those needed to nurture and foster a community of users.

    Musk does best where he finds a very strong manager who can take his brilliant insights, and make them work. And who is also self confident (and trusted enough) to push back and be taken seriously. Gwynne Shotwell at SpaceX, for example, is the person who runs it. Elon has brilliant ideas and sees the big picture. But Ms Shotwell is the person who makes sure that things work as they should. That combination of drive & insight (Musk) and execution skills (Shotwell) is what makes things work. I am far from convinced that Musk has the execution skills needed to make Twitter work.

    Should he find a strong COO, then that changes. But for now...
    This is classic vanity investment combined with attempt to suck up to Sage of Mar-a-Lardo and HIS global pals.

    Made at the top of the market, and clearly a bad deal very shortly thereafter, which is why EM spent God-knows-what on a court case that was less Hail Mary that Forlorn Hope.

    Plus self-advertisement is Musk's true forte.

    NOT quasi-mass semi-targeted advertising, which is THE way to make money via Twit'r?
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 95,940
    edited November 2022
    What the heck was happening in Romania?

    7 former PMs alive is modal stuff from the UK.

    🇷🇴 16
    🇧🇬🇲🇩🇹🇭🇹🇼 14
    🇱🇻 13
    🇮🇹🇨🇿 12
    🇪🇪 11
    🇦🇹🇪🇨🇯🇵🇱🇹🇵🇬 10
    🇧🇪🇫🇮🇨🇷🇷🇸 9
    🇬🇷🇭🇷🇵🇱🇲🇰 8
    🇬🇧🇸🇪🇦🇺🇮🇸🇵🇹🇦🇷🇧🇴🇬🇹🇵🇾🇵🇪🇦🇱🇸🇰🇸🇮🇲🇪 7
    🇨🇦🇳🇿🇧🇷🇨🇴🇭🇳🇭🇺🇹🇱6
    🇩🇰🇺🇸🇳🇴🇮🇪🇨🇱🇬🇾🇲🇽🇵🇦 5
    🇪🇸🇲🇹🇸🇻🇸🇷🇲🇾🇱🇰🇰🇷🇮🇱🇨🇻🇱🇸 4
    🇯🇲🇺🇾🇿🇦 3
    🇩🇪🇫🇷🇳🇱🇱🇺🇮🇳🇹🇷🇹🇹🇮🇩🇧🇼🇬🇭🇳🇦 2
    🇸🇬🇵🇭 1

    https://twitter.com/HzBrandenburg/status/1591876779891126272
  • As far as I can tell California has counted fuck all votes over the last 24 hours.

    Maybe they've all gone surfing instead.
  • paulyork64paulyork64 Posts: 2,507
    ydoethur said:

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    The government now spends more on housing benefit than on transport or the Home Office.

    https://twitter.com/georgeeaton/status/1592164903544315905

    Should be abolished. 😠
    And how are those on low incomes supposed to house themselves if they cannot afford to rent without housing benefit and there is not enough public housing, even if more is being built again?
    Workhouses?

    They seem to have closed a lot of them. Still one at Southwell though I had to pay £10 to get in or was it to get out I forget
    Workhouses being reintroduced having been originally introduced by a classical Liberal government in the 19th century would I am sure suit Bart fine
    Workhouses in their 'classic' form were set up under the New Poor Law of 1834. The Liberal Party was not founded until 1859 when the Peelites, Radicals, and Whigs merged to form one party.
    There is a workhouse museum in Ripon I'd recommend but it was pre-covid when we went. The ticket also gets you into the old courthouse and the old jail.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,194

    ydoethur said:

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    The government now spends more on housing benefit than on transport or the Home Office.

    https://twitter.com/georgeeaton/status/1592164903544315905

    Should be abolished. 😠
    And how are those on low incomes supposed to house themselves if they cannot afford to rent without housing benefit and there is not enough public housing, even if more is being built again?
    Workhouses?

    They seem to have closed a lot of them. Still one at Southwell though I had to pay £10 to get in or was it to get out I forget
    Workhouses being reintroduced having been originally introduced by a classical Liberal government in the 19th century would I am sure suit Bart fine
    Workhouses in their 'classic' form were set up under the New Poor Law of 1834. The Liberal Party was not founded until 1859 when the Peelites, Radicals, and Whigs merged to form one party.
    There is a workhouse museum in Ripon I'd recommend but it was pre-covid when we went. The ticket also gets you into the old courthouse and the old jail.
    Why? Did you steal it?
  • Just came across this on Twitter - comparison of old and new maps, fully zoomable. Have discovered our house is built on the site of a fever hospital. Did not know that.

    https://bothness.github.io/ons-basemaps/#/zoomstack-outdoor//os-1900//13,-2.19026,51.19681

    The Muppets with Rita Moreno - Fever
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDjXeWksP4w
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 21,978

    Nigelb said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Eustice: "We did not actually need to give Australia nor New Zealand full liberalisation of beef and sheep. It was not in our economic interests to do so. And neither Australia nor New Zealand had anything to offer in return for such a grand concession."

    https://twitter.com/lewis_goodall/status/1592209448986198016

    Perhaps she had a, not unreasonable, view that free trade was a good thing, and that British consumers would benefit from cheaper lamb?
    I never understand why pork is so cheap and lamb is so expensive.

    I mean, pork requires more infra and work than sheep.

    Weird.
    Looking at pig farms (notably in Norfolk), and sheep farms; pigs can be kept in much closer captivity than sheep. My *guess* is that you get far fewer sheep per hectare (*) than pigs, much reducing the cost.

    As an aside, my dad says that pigs are not dirty; they are very clean animals. It's only the way we keep them that makes them dirty.

    (*) Acre for you ;)
    The other strange thing about sheep is how the fleece these days has virtually no value.

    I think they get something like 50p for a fleece? And it's much more sustainable to use wool for clothes than synthetics.

    Learnt from Clarkson's farm. More weird.
    Shearing costs money; scouring the wool costs more, and is an energy intensive process. Turning the fibre into cloth is again considerably more expensive than processing synthetics.
    A lot of UK wool is way too coarse for garments anyway.

    Annual cotton production is about ten times that of wool; synthetics nearly four times that of cotton.
    In worldwide clothing terms, wool is essentially an irrelevance.
    Yes shearing can cost more than the fleece is worth. The Wiltshire breed sheds it's wool which saves the hassle. Also Easycare, crossbred from the Wiltshire.
    We have been using wool based garden compost.
  • ohnotnowohnotnow Posts: 3,724

    As far as I can tell California has counted fuck all votes over the last 24 hours.

    Maybe they've all gone surfing instead.

    Modern US politics be like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYc4DT18EJg
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,194
    edited November 2022

    Speaking of lifes little mysteries

    Why do they always build castles at the top of hills


    Plays hell with my angina


    Very inconsiderate

    Bodiam's in a valley, as is Bere. Berkeley is on a river bank. Pevensey, Caernarfon and Beaumaris are on the coast.
  • stodgestodge Posts: 13,829
    kle4 said:

    What the heck was happening in Romania?

    7 former PMs alive is modal stuff from the UK.

    🇷🇴 16
    🇧🇬🇲🇩🇹🇭🇹🇼 14
    🇱🇻 13
    🇮🇹🇨🇿 12
    🇪🇪 11
    🇦🇹🇪🇨🇯🇵🇱🇹🇵🇬 10
    🇧🇪🇫🇮🇨🇷🇷🇸 9
    🇬🇷🇭🇷🇵🇱🇲🇰 8
    🇬🇧🇸🇪🇦🇺🇮🇸🇵🇹🇦🇷🇧🇴🇬🇹🇵🇾🇵🇪🇦🇱🇸🇰🇸🇮🇲🇪 7
    🇨🇦🇳🇿🇧🇷🇨🇴🇭🇳🇭🇺🇹🇱6
    🇩🇰🇺🇸🇳🇴🇮🇪🇨🇱🇬🇾🇲🇽🇵🇦 5
    🇪🇸🇲🇹🇸🇻🇸🇷🇲🇾🇱🇰🇰🇷🇮🇱🇨🇻🇱🇸 4
    🇯🇲🇺🇾🇿🇦 3
    🇩🇪🇫🇷🇳🇱🇱🇺🇮🇳🇹🇷🇹🇹🇮🇩🇧🇼🇬🇭🇳🇦 2
    🇸🇬🇵🇭 1

    https://twitter.com/HzBrandenburg/status/1591876779891126272

    Mrs Stodge, being the good Kiwi woman she is, got 5 out of 6 of the living former NZ Prime Ministers. She missed Geoffrey Palmer (no, not him from Butterflies or Reggie Perrin) but got Jim Bolger, Jenny Shipley, Helen Clark, John Key and Bill English.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 35,899
    Former Tory minister lays into post-Brexit Australia trade deal https://on.ft.com/3AfuJ48
  • As far as I can tell California has counted fuck all votes over the last 24 hours.

    Maybe they've all gone surfing instead.

    My guess is most counties are not scheduled to release more results until later in the afternoon-evening local time, which is now 12.30pm Pacific.

    That's what's happening today in Washington State today, in counties that did NOT hit bottom last week or over the weekend.

    For example, based on what I'm seeing on their webcams, King Co Elections is currently busting their hump processing and scanning ballots prior to scheduled 4pm Pacific (12 midnight UK) report.

    https://kingcounty.gov/depts/elections/about-us/security-and-accountability/watch-us-in-action.aspx
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 35,899
    We Took Back Control

    For the record, George Eustice voted against giving parliament greater oversight of trade deals https://twitter.com/Brigid_Fowler/status/1592223223844057088
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 35,899
    Indeed Eustice himself points out that other countries, eg Japan, use the mandate of their MPs in trade negotiations as a form of ballast to push back against certain asks - that mechanism has been totally bypassed for UK trade deals…
    https://twitter.com/faisalislam/status/1592256213114572800
  • AnabobazinaAnabobazina Posts: 23,479

    Scott_xP said:

    @sampullara Part of today will be turning off the “microservices” bloatware. Less than 20% are actually needed for Twitter to work!
    https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1592177471654604800

    Yeah, this guy is a GENIUS...

    apparently they didnt turn off 2-factor authentication but they DID turn off the service that sends you the 2-factor authentication code. so if you log out and try to log in with an authentication code you simply wont receive one. lol. lmao https://twitter.com/zachsilberberg/status/1592228112770924544

    All the people calling Elon Musk a moron will look pretty stupid if he turns Twitter around.
    That *if* is doing some fairly heavy lifting atm.

    Oops. Off to the lizard fanciers’ forum on Tory home for you.


    • Heavy lifting
    • Colour me …
    • IANAE/IANAL
    • Feature, not a bug
    • Ad hom
    • This
    • It’s a view
    • North of (to mean more than)
    • As I’ve said passim
    • One of those irregular verbs
    • Late of this parish
    • Nail. Head.
    • Unspoofable
    • …. (four dot ellipsis)
    • Living rent free in x’s heads



  • Clearly Elon Musk is working overtime trying to curry favor with PBers . . .

    Politico.eu - Musk fires chief Brussels lobbyist in Twitter’s layoff round

    https://www.politico.eu/article/twitters-eu-chief-lobbyist-among-musks-layoffs/
  • Scott_xP said:

    @sampullara Part of today will be turning off the “microservices” bloatware. Less than 20% are actually needed for Twitter to work!
    https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1592177471654604800

    Yeah, this guy is a GENIUS...

    apparently they didnt turn off 2-factor authentication but they DID turn off the service that sends you the 2-factor authentication code. so if you log out and try to log in with an authentication code you simply wont receive one. lol. lmao https://twitter.com/zachsilberberg/status/1592228112770924544

    All the people calling Elon Musk a moron will look pretty stupid if he turns Twitter around.
    That *if* is doing some fairly heavy lifting atm.

    Oops. Off to the lizard fanciers’ forum on Tory home for you.


    • Heavy lifting
    • Colour me …
    • IANAE/IANAL
    • Feature, not a bug
    • Ad hom
    • This
    • It’s a view
    • North of (to mean more than)
    • As I’ve said passim
    • One of those irregular verbs
    • Late of this parish
    • Nail. Head.
    • Unspoofable
    • …. (four dot ellipsis)
    • Living rent free in x’s heads



    Mind. Blown. :lol:
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 34,596
    ydoethur said:

    Speaking of lifes little mysteries

    Why do they always build castles at the top of hills


    Plays hell with my angina


    Very inconsiderate

    Bodiam's in a valley, as is Bere. Berkeley is on a river bank. Pevensey, Caernarfon and Beaumaris are on the coast.
    Hastings Castle is at the bottom of a cliff. Well, half of it is.
  • VerulamiusVerulamius Posts: 1,540
    edited November 2022
    ydoethur said:

    Speaking of lifes little mysteries

    Why do they always build castles at the top of hills


    Plays hell with my angina


    Very inconsiderate

    Bodiam's in a valley, as is Bere. Berkeley is on a river bank. Pevensey, Caernarfon and Beaumaris are on the coast.
    Berkhampsted's is by the railway.
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 42,275

    Scott_xP said:

    @sampullara Part of today will be turning off the “microservices” bloatware. Less than 20% are actually needed for Twitter to work!
    https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1592177471654604800

    Yeah, this guy is a GENIUS...

    apparently they didnt turn off 2-factor authentication but they DID turn off the service that sends you the 2-factor authentication code. so if you log out and try to log in with an authentication code you simply wont receive one. lol. lmao https://twitter.com/zachsilberberg/status/1592228112770924544

    All the people calling Elon Musk a moron will look pretty stupid if he turns Twitter around.
    That *if* is doing some fairly heavy lifting atm.

    Oops. Off to the lizard fanciers’ forum on Tory home for you.


    • Heavy lifting
    • Colour me …
    • IANAE/IANAL
    • Feature, not a bug
    • Ad hom
    • This
    • It’s a view
    • North of (to mean more than)
    • As I’ve said passim
    • One of those irregular verbs
    • Late of this parish
    • Nail. Head.
    • Unspoofable
    • …. (four dot ellipsis)
    • Living rent free in x’s heads



    Fuck off.

    Add that to your 'list'. ;)
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 28,272

    rcs1000 said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Eustice: "We did not actually need to give Australia nor New Zealand full liberalisation of beef and sheep. It was not in our economic interests to do so. And neither Australia nor New Zealand had anything to offer in return for such a grand concession."

    https://twitter.com/lewis_goodall/status/1592209448986198016

    Perhaps she had a, not unreasonable, view that free trade was a good thing, and that British consumers would benefit from cheaper lamb?
    I never understand why pork is so cheap and lamb is so expensive.

    I mean, pork requires more infra and work than sheep.

    Weird.
    Looking at pig farms (notably in Norfolk), and sheep farms; pigs can be kept in much closer captivity than sheep. My *guess* is that you get far fewer sheep per hectare (*) than pigs, much reducing the cost.

    As an aside, my dad says that pigs are not dirty; they are very clean animals. It's only the way we keep them that makes them dirty.

    (*) Acre for you ;)
    The other strange thing about sheep is how the fleece these days has virtually no value.

    I think they get something like 50p for a fleece? And it's much more sustainable to use wool for clothes than synthetics.

    Learnt from Clarkson's farm. More weird.
    Sheepswool is fabulous home insulation. Very effective, lovely to work with (non itchy) no nasty chemicals. I don't know what central Government can do to incentivise its use, but it would be a very good idea.
    Except it's combustible. After Grenfell, not a great selling point.
    Someone should tell these guys:

    https://www.thermafleece.com/product/thermafleece-cosywool-sheep-s-wool-roll
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 35,899

    Scott_xP said:

    @sampullara Part of today will be turning off the “microservices” bloatware. Less than 20% are actually needed for Twitter to work!
    https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1592177471654604800

    Yeah, this guy is a GENIUS...

    apparently they didnt turn off 2-factor authentication but they DID turn off the service that sends you the 2-factor authentication code. so if you log out and try to log in with an authentication code you simply wont receive one. lol. lmao https://twitter.com/zachsilberberg/status/1592228112770924544

    All the people calling Elon Musk a moron will look pretty stupid if he turns Twitter around.
    That *if* is doing some fairly heavy lifting atm.

    Oops. Off to the lizard fanciers’ forum on Tory home for you.


    • Heavy lifting
    • Colour me …
    • IANAE/IANAL
    • Feature, not a bug
    • Ad hom
    • This
    • It’s a view
    • North of (to mean more than)
    • As I’ve said passim
    • One of those irregular verbs
    • Late of this parish
    • Nail. Head.
    • Unspoofable
    • …. (four dot ellipsis)
    • Living rent free in x’s heads



    Fuck off.

    Add that to your 'list'. ;)
    This...
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 42,275

    Speaking of lifes little mysteries

    Why do they always build castles at the top of hills

    Plays hell with my angina

    Very inconsiderate

    It feels the same about cathedrals: many seemed to be built near the top of hills (e.g. Ely, Durham, Lincoln). This was pointed out to me at St Davids, which is at the bottom of a hill; allegedly so it could not be seen by marauders at sea. Or because they wanted it to be protected from the weather. ;)
  • Scott_xP said:

    @sampullara Part of today will be turning off the “microservices” bloatware. Less than 20% are actually needed for Twitter to work!
    https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1592177471654604800

    Yeah, this guy is a GENIUS...

    apparently they didnt turn off 2-factor authentication but they DID turn off the service that sends you the 2-factor authentication code. so if you log out and try to log in with an authentication code you simply wont receive one. lol. lmao https://twitter.com/zachsilberberg/status/1592228112770924544

    All the people calling Elon Musk a moron will look pretty stupid if he turns Twitter around.
    That *if* is doing some fairly heavy lifting atm.

    Oops. Off to the lizard fanciers’ forum on Tory home for you.


    • Heavy lifting
    • Colour me …
    • IANAE/IANAL
    • Feature, not a bug
    • Ad hom
    • This
    • It’s a view
    • North of (to mean more than)
    • As I’ve said passim
    • One of those irregular verbs
    • Late of this parish
    • Nail. Head.
    • Unspoofable
    • …. (four dot ellipsis)
    • Living rent free in x’s heads



    The likes of ...
  • AnabobazinaAnabobazina Posts: 23,479

    Scott_xP said:

    @sampullara Part of today will be turning off the “microservices” bloatware. Less than 20% are actually needed for Twitter to work!
    https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1592177471654604800

    Yeah, this guy is a GENIUS...

    apparently they didnt turn off 2-factor authentication but they DID turn off the service that sends you the 2-factor authentication code. so if you log out and try to log in with an authentication code you simply wont receive one. lol. lmao https://twitter.com/zachsilberberg/status/1592228112770924544

    All the people calling Elon Musk a moron will look pretty stupid if he turns Twitter around.
    That *if* is doing some fairly heavy lifting atm.

    Oops. Off to the lizard fanciers’ forum on Tory home for you.


    • Heavy lifting
    • Colour me …
    • IANAE/IANAL
    • Feature, not a bug
    • Ad hom
    • This
    • It’s a view
    • North of (to mean more than)
    • As I’ve said passim
    • One of those irregular verbs
    • Late of this parish
    • Nail. Head.
    • Unspoofable
    • …. (four dot ellipsis)
    • Living rent free in x’s heads

    Fuck off.



    Add that to your 'list'. ;)
    Nothing wrong with fuck off. Plain English.

  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 17,214
    Scott_xP said:

    Scott_xP said:

    @sampullara Part of today will be turning off the “microservices” bloatware. Less than 20% are actually needed for Twitter to work!
    https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1592177471654604800

    Yeah, this guy is a GENIUS...

    apparently they didnt turn off 2-factor authentication but they DID turn off the service that sends you the 2-factor authentication code. so if you log out and try to log in with an authentication code you simply wont receive one. lol. lmao https://twitter.com/zachsilberberg/status/1592228112770924544

    All the people calling Elon Musk a moron will look pretty stupid if he turns Twitter around.
    That *if* is doing some fairly heavy lifting atm.

    Oops. Off to the lizard fanciers’ forum on Tory home for you.


    • Heavy lifting
    • Colour me …
    • IANAE/IANAL
    • Feature, not a bug
    • Ad hom
    • This
    • It’s a view
    • North of (to mean more than)
    • As I’ve said passim
    • One of those irregular verbs
    • Late of this parish
    • Nail. Head.
    • Unspoofable
    • …. (four dot ellipsis)
    • Living rent free in x’s heads



    Fuck off.

    Add that to your 'list'. ;)
    This...
    +1
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 17,214

    Speaking of lifes little mysteries

    Why do they always build castles at the top of hills

    Plays hell with my angina

    Very inconsiderate

    It feels the same about cathedrals: many seemed to be built near the top of hills (e.g. Ely, Durham, Lincoln). This was pointed out to me at St Davids, which is at the bottom of a hill; allegedly so it could not be seen by marauders at sea. Or because they wanted it to be protected from the weather. ;)
    It’s also right next to the bishops palace - saves him walking too far.
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 42,275

    Speaking of lifes little mysteries

    Why do they always build castles at the top of hills

    Plays hell with my angina

    Very inconsiderate

    It feels the same about cathedrals: many seemed to be built near the top of hills (e.g. Ely, Durham, Lincoln). This was pointed out to me at St Davids, which is at the bottom of a hill; allegedly so it could not be seen by marauders at sea. Or because they wanted it to be protected from the weather. ;)
    It’s also right next to the bishops palace - saves him walking too far.
    Assuming the Bishop's Palace was built first... ;)

    When I visit Mountfitchet Castle (a modern recreation on an old motte, and brilliant for kids), I always say that they built it in a very convenient location for the railway station...
  • As far as I can tell California has counted fuck all votes over the last 24 hours.

    Maybe they've all gone surfing instead.

    My guess is most counties are not scheduled to release more results until later in the afternoon-evening local time, which is now 12.30pm Pacific.

    That's what's happening today in Washington State today, in counties that did NOT hit bottom last week or over the weekend.

    For example, based on what I'm seeing on their webcams, King Co Elections is currently busting their hump processing and scanning ballots prior to scheduled 4pm Pacific (12 midnight UK) report.

    https://kingcounty.gov/depts/elections/about-us/security-and-accountability/watch-us-in-action.aspx
    "Busting their hump processing"

    I literally have no idea what that means. It must be a fancy American term for fucking about.

    Can you please tell your compatriots to stop taking fannying around to a new art form and count the fucking votes?
  • Scott_xP said:

    @sampullara Part of today will be turning off the “microservices” bloatware. Less than 20% are actually needed for Twitter to work!
    https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1592177471654604800

    Yeah, this guy is a GENIUS...

    apparently they didnt turn off 2-factor authentication but they DID turn off the service that sends you the 2-factor authentication code. so if you log out and try to log in with an authentication code you simply wont receive one. lol. lmao https://twitter.com/zachsilberberg/status/1592228112770924544

    All the people calling Elon Musk a moron will look pretty stupid if he turns Twitter around.
    That *if* is doing some fairly heavy lifting atm.

    Oops. Off to the lizard fanciers’ forum on Tory home for you.


    • Heavy lifting
    • Colour me …
    • IANAE/IANAL
    • Feature, not a bug
    • Ad hom
    • This
    • It’s a view
    • North of (to mean more than)
    • As I’ve said passim
    • One of those irregular verbs
    • Late of this parish
    • Nail. Head.
    • Unspoofable
    • …. (four dot ellipsis)
    • Living rent free in x’s heads



    • Busting their hump processing
  • paulyork64paulyork64 Posts: 2,507

    Speaking of lifes little mysteries

    Why do they always build castles at the top of hills

    Plays hell with my angina

    Very inconsiderate

    It feels the same about cathedrals: many seemed to be built near the top of hills (e.g. Ely, Durham, Lincoln). This was pointed out to me at St Davids, which is at the bottom of a hill; allegedly so it could not be seen by marauders at sea. Or because they wanted it to be protected from the weather. ;)
    Have you named the only 3 on hills? Most I think aren't. York, Wells, Salisbury, Beverley.
  • MoonRabbitMoonRabbit Posts: 13,370

    As far as I can tell California has counted fuck all votes over the last 24 hours.

    Maybe they've all gone surfing instead.

    My guess is most counties are not scheduled to release more results until later in the afternoon-evening local time, which is now 12.30pm Pacific.

    That's what's happening today in Washington State today, in counties that did NOT hit bottom last week or over the weekend.

    For example, based on what I'm seeing on their webcams, King Co Elections is currently busting their hump processing and scanning ballots prior to scheduled 4pm Pacific (12 midnight UK) report.

    https://kingcounty.gov/depts/elections/about-us/security-and-accountability/watch-us-in-action.aspx
    "Busting their hump processing"

    I literally have no idea what that means. It must be a fancy American term for fucking about.

    Can you please tell your compatriots to stop taking fannying around to a new art form and count the fucking votes?
    To be fair, I don’t think they can do more than bust their hump. 😕
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,194
    Scott_xP said:

    Scott_xP said:

    @sampullara Part of today will be turning off the “microservices” bloatware. Less than 20% are actually needed for Twitter to work!
    https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1592177471654604800

    Yeah, this guy is a GENIUS...

    apparently they didnt turn off 2-factor authentication but they DID turn off the service that sends you the 2-factor authentication code. so if you log out and try to log in with an authentication code you simply wont receive one. lol. lmao https://twitter.com/zachsilberberg/status/1592228112770924544

    All the people calling Elon Musk a moron will look pretty stupid if he turns Twitter around.
    That *if* is doing some fairly heavy lifting atm.

    Oops. Off to the lizard fanciers’ forum on Tory home for you.


    • Heavy lifting
    • Colour me …
    • IANAE/IANAL
    • Feature, not a bug
    • Ad hom
    • This
    • It’s a view
    • North of (to mean more than)
    • As I’ve said passim
    • One of those irregular verbs
    • Late of this parish
    • Nail. Head.
    • Unspoofable
    • …. (four dot ellipsis)
    • Living rent free in x’s heads



    Fuck off.

    Add that to your 'list'. ;)
    This...

    Scott_xP said:

    @sampullara Part of today will be turning off the “microservices” bloatware. Less than 20% are actually needed for Twitter to work!
    https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1592177471654604800

    Yeah, this guy is a GENIUS...

    apparently they didnt turn off 2-factor authentication but they DID turn off the service that sends you the 2-factor authentication code. so if you log out and try to log in with an authentication code you simply wont receive one. lol. lmao https://twitter.com/zachsilberberg/status/1592228112770924544

    All the people calling Elon Musk a moron will look pretty stupid if he turns Twitter around.
    That *if* is doing some fairly heavy lifting atm.

    Oops. Off to the lizard fanciers’ forum on Tory home for you.


    • Heavy lifting
    • Colour me …
    • IANAE/IANAL
    • Feature, not a bug
    • Ad hom
    • This
    • It’s a view
    • North of (to mean more than)
    • As I’ve said passim
    • One of those irregular verbs
    • Late of this parish
    • Nail. Head.
    • Unspoofable
    • …. (four dot ellipsis)
    • Living rent free in x’s heads



    The likes of ...
    Dear oh dear. You put those in and then miss off the fourth dot....
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 95,940

    ydoethur said:

    Speaking of lifes little mysteries

    Why do they always build castles at the top of hills


    Plays hell with my angina


    Very inconsiderate

    Bodiam's in a valley, as is Bere. Berkeley is on a river bank. Pevensey, Caernarfon and Beaumaris are on the coast.
    Hastings Castle is at the bottom of a cliff. Well, half of it is.
    If only Cnut had put a sandcastle on the beach instead of himself perhaps the architects of Hastings would have realised their folly.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 70,678
    rcs1000 said:

    Scott_xP said:

    @sampullara Part of today will be turning off the “microservices” bloatware. Less than 20% are actually needed for Twitter to work!
    https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1592177471654604800

    Yeah, this guy is a GENIUS...

    apparently they didnt turn off 2-factor authentication but they DID turn off the service that sends you the 2-factor authentication code. so if you log out and try to log in with an authentication code you simply wont receive one. lol. lmao https://twitter.com/zachsilberberg/status/1592228112770924544

    All the people calling Elon Musk a moron will look pretty stupid if he turns Twitter around.
    Elon Musk is not a moron.

    He's an incredibly smart and driven person.

    But he's also making a lot of very rapid business decisions, without knowing the technical consequences of those decisions.

    I would also say that the skills needed to realise the opportunity in space travel by using standard components and iterating rapidly, and in electric vehicles, are not the same as those needed to nurture and foster a community of users.

    Musk does best where he finds a very strong manager who can take his brilliant insights, and make them work. And who is also self confident (and trusted enough) to push back and be taken seriously. Gwynne Shotwell at SpaceX, for example, is the person who runs it. Elon has brilliant ideas and sees the big picture. But Ms Shotwell is the person who makes sure that things work as they should. That combination of drive & insight (Musk) and execution skills (Shotwell) is what makes things work. I am far from convinced that Musk has the execution skills needed to make Twitter work.

    Should he find a strong COO, then that changes. But for now...
    Where the heck is he going to find such a person for Twitter now ?
  • paulyork64paulyork64 Posts: 2,507

    Speaking of lifes little mysteries

    Why do they always build castles at the top of hills

    Plays hell with my angina

    Very inconsiderate

    It feels the same about cathedrals: many seemed to be built near the top of hills (e.g. Ely, Durham, Lincoln). This was pointed out to me at St Davids, which is at the bottom of a hill; allegedly so it could not be seen by marauders at sea. Or because they wanted it to be protected from the weather. ;)
    It’s also right next to the bishops palace - saves him walking too far.
    Assuming the Bishop's Palace was built first... ;)

    When I visit Mountfitchet Castle (a modern recreation on an old motte, and brilliant for kids), I always say that they built it in a very convenient location for the railway station...
    I always thought it was silly for the Queen to build Windsor Castle under the Heathrow flightpath.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 95,940
    Nigelb said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Scott_xP said:

    @sampullara Part of today will be turning off the “microservices” bloatware. Less than 20% are actually needed for Twitter to work!
    https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1592177471654604800

    Yeah, this guy is a GENIUS...

    apparently they didnt turn off 2-factor authentication but they DID turn off the service that sends you the 2-factor authentication code. so if you log out and try to log in with an authentication code you simply wont receive one. lol. lmao https://twitter.com/zachsilberberg/status/1592228112770924544

    All the people calling Elon Musk a moron will look pretty stupid if he turns Twitter around.
    Elon Musk is not a moron.

    He's an incredibly smart and driven person.

    But he's also making a lot of very rapid business decisions, without knowing the technical consequences of those decisions.

    I would also say that the skills needed to realise the opportunity in space travel by using standard components and iterating rapidly, and in electric vehicles, are not the same as those needed to nurture and foster a community of users.

    Musk does best where he finds a very strong manager who can take his brilliant insights, and make them work. And who is also self confident (and trusted enough) to push back and be taken seriously. Gwynne Shotwell at SpaceX, for example, is the person who runs it. Elon has brilliant ideas and sees the big picture. But Ms Shotwell is the person who makes sure that things work as they should. That combination of drive & insight (Musk) and execution skills (Shotwell) is what makes things work. I am far from convinced that Musk has the execution skills needed to make Twitter work.

    Should he find a strong COO, then that changes. But for now...
    Where the heck is he going to find such a person for Twitter now ?
    Mars.
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,640

    Speaking of lifes little mysteries

    Why do they always build castles at the top of hills


    Plays hell with my angina


    Very inconsiderate

    Which one? Plenty manage without but the height is handy.
    York is it called steep hill that its at the top of

    In Bolsover its up a steeper hill than Mark Fletcher has to climb from here to hang on to the seat for the Tories
  • As far as I can tell California has counted fuck all votes over the last 24 hours.

    Maybe they've all gone surfing instead.

    My guess is most counties are not scheduled to release more results until later in the afternoon-evening local time, which is now 12.30pm Pacific.

    That's what's happening today in Washington State today, in counties that did NOT hit bottom last week or over the weekend.

    For example, based on what I'm seeing on their webcams, King Co Elections is currently busting their hump processing and scanning ballots prior to scheduled 4pm Pacific (12 midnight UK) report.

    https://kingcounty.gov/depts/elections/about-us/security-and-accountability/watch-us-in-action.aspx
    "Busting their hump processing"

    I literally have no idea what that means. It must be a fancy American term for fucking about.

    Can you please tell your compatriots to stop taking fannying around to a new art form and count the fucking votes?
    "busting a hump" = working hard

    Sorry, but speedy clearing of your election bets is NOT a priority.

    Though why California IS so sloooooow is a puzzle. They have valid votes still arriving BUT so do OR and WA.
  • paulyork64paulyork64 Posts: 2,507

    Speaking of lifes little mysteries

    Why do they always build castles at the top of hills


    Plays hell with my angina


    Very inconsiderate

    Which one? Plenty manage without but the height is handy.
    York is it called steep hill that its at the top of

    In Bolsover its up a steeper hill than Mark Fletcher has to climb from here to hang on to the seat for the Tories
    Clifford's Tower in York is def on a steep hill but didn't know it was called that.
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,640
    War causing huge release of climate warming gas, claims Ukraine and thats just Zelensky.

    I thought Russia was helpfully saving Ukranians money on their energy bills?
  • paulyork64paulyork64 Posts: 2,507

    Scott_xP said:

    @sampullara Part of today will be turning off the “microservices” bloatware. Less than 20% are actually needed for Twitter to work!
    https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1592177471654604800

    Yeah, this guy is a GENIUS...

    apparently they didnt turn off 2-factor authentication but they DID turn off the service that sends you the 2-factor authentication code. so if you log out and try to log in with an authentication code you simply wont receive one. lol. lmao https://twitter.com/zachsilberberg/status/1592228112770924544

    All the people calling Elon Musk a moron will look pretty stupid if he turns Twitter around.
    That *if* is doing some fairly heavy lifting atm.

    Oops. Off to the lizard fanciers’ forum on Tory home for you.


    • Heavy lifting
    • Colour me …
    • IANAE/IANAL
    • Feature, not a bug
    • Ad hom
    • This
    • It’s a view
    • North of (to mean more than)
    • As I’ve said passim
    • One of those irregular verbs
    • Late of this parish
    • Nail. Head.
    • Unspoofable
    • …. (four dot ellipsis)
    • Living rent free in x’s heads



    • Busting their hump processing

    Scott_xP said:

    @sampullara Part of today will be turning off the “microservices” bloatware. Less than 20% are actually needed for Twitter to work!
    https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1592177471654604800

    Yeah, this guy is a GENIUS...

    apparently they didnt turn off 2-factor authentication but they DID turn off the service that sends you the 2-factor authentication code. so if you log out and try to log in with an authentication code you simply wont receive one. lol. lmao https://twitter.com/zachsilberberg/status/1592228112770924544

    All the people calling Elon Musk a moron will look pretty stupid if he turns Twitter around.
    That *if* is doing some fairly heavy lifting atm.

    Oops. Off to the lizard fanciers’ forum on Tory home for you.


    • Heavy lifting
    • Colour me …
    • IANAE/IANAL
    • Feature, not a bug
    • Ad hom
    • This
    • It’s a view
    • North of (to mean more than)
    • As I’ve said passim
    • One of those irregular verbs
    • Late of this parish
    • Nail. Head.
    • Unspoofable
    • …. (four dot ellipsis)
    • Living rent free in x’s heads



    NEW THREAD ....
  • As far as I can tell California has counted fuck all votes over the last 24 hours.

    Maybe they've all gone surfing instead.

    My guess is most counties are not scheduled to release more results until later in the afternoon-evening local time, which is now 12.30pm Pacific.

    That's what's happening today in Washington State today, in counties that did NOT hit bottom last week or over the weekend.

    For example, based on what I'm seeing on their webcams, King Co Elections is currently busting their hump processing and scanning ballots prior to scheduled 4pm Pacific (12 midnight UK) report.

    https://kingcounty.gov/depts/elections/about-us/security-and-accountability/watch-us-in-action.aspx
    "Busting their hump processing"

    I literally have no idea what that means. It must be a fancy American term for fucking about.

    Can you please tell your compatriots to stop taking fannying around to a new art form and count the fucking votes?
    "busting a hump" = working hard

    Sorry, but speedy clearing of your election bets is NOT a priority.

    Though why California IS so sloooooow is a puzzle. They have valid votes still arriving BUT so do OR and WA.
    Working hard it should be possible to count ballots in a matter of hours, not days.

    Taking weeks to count ballots fuels conspiracy theories.
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 42,646

    Speaking of lifes little mysteries

    Why do they always build castles at the top of hills

    Plays hell with my angina

    Very inconsiderate

    It feels the same about cathedrals: many seemed to be built near the top of hills (e.g. Ely, Durham, Lincoln). This was pointed out to me at St Davids, which is at the bottom of a hill; allegedly so it could not be seen by marauders at sea. Or because they wanted it to be protected from the weather. ;)
    Have you named the only 3 on hills? Most I think aren't. York, Wells, Salisbury, Beverley.
    The former cathedral in Edinburgh is on a hill - but so too is most of the Old Town.
  • As far as I can tell California has counted fuck all votes over the last 24 hours.

    Maybe they've all gone surfing instead.

    My guess is most counties are not scheduled to release more results until later in the afternoon-evening local time, which is now 12.30pm Pacific.

    That's what's happening today in Washington State today, in counties that did NOT hit bottom last week or over the weekend.

    For example, based on what I'm seeing on their webcams, King Co Elections is currently busting their hump processing and scanning ballots prior to scheduled 4pm Pacific (12 midnight UK) report.

    https://kingcounty.gov/depts/elections/about-us/security-and-accountability/watch-us-in-action.aspx
    "Busting their hump processing"

    I literally have no idea what that means. It must be a fancy American term for fucking about.

    Can you please tell your compatriots to stop taking fannying around to a new art form and count the fucking votes?
    "busting a hump" = working hard

    Sorry, but speedy clearing of your election bets is NOT a priority.

    Though why California IS so sloooooow is a puzzle. They have valid votes still arriving BUT so do OR and WA.
    Yeah, it's bollocks though, innit?

    We and India manage to count in a day.

    It might be lack of resources, a sloppy postal service, a lack of organisation, or maybe a desire to keep the suspense going as long as possible, but it sure as hell ain't necessary or justified.

    Poor.
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 21,978
    This thread has retrenched its position on the left bank.
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 42,646

    Speaking of lifes little mysteries

    Why do they always build castles at the top of hills


    Plays hell with my angina


    Very inconsiderate

    Which one? Plenty manage without but the height is handy.
    York is it called steep hill that its at the top of

    In Bolsover its up a steeper hill than Mark Fletcher has to climb from here to hang on to the seat for the Tories
    Clifford's Tower in York is def on a steep hill but didn't know it was called that.
    The hill *is* part of the castle - an artificial 'motte'.
  • paulyork64paulyork64 Posts: 2,507

    Speaking of lifes little mysteries

    Why do they always build castles at the top of hills


    Plays hell with my angina


    Very inconsiderate

    Which one? Plenty manage without but the height is handy.
    York is it called steep hill that its at the top of

    In Bolsover its up a steeper hill than Mark Fletcher has to climb from here to hang on to the seat for the Tories
    Bolsover is up a beast of a hill.
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 42,275

    Speaking of lifes little mysteries

    Why do they always build castles at the top of hills

    Plays hell with my angina

    Very inconsiderate

    It feels the same about cathedrals: many seemed to be built near the top of hills (e.g. Ely, Durham, Lincoln). This was pointed out to me at St Davids, which is at the bottom of a hill; allegedly so it could not be seen by marauders at sea. Or because they wanted it to be protected from the weather. ;)
    Have you named the only 3 on hills? Most I think aren't. York, Wells, Salisbury, Beverley.
    Purely off the top of my head, isn't York on a lump of slightly higher ground between rivers? (Not got my maps on this new phone...)

    A 'hill' is sometimes a nebulous concept, particularly in the Fens. There's a campaign to stop the council moving Csmbridge sewage works to a place called Honey Hill. Which is not exactly a hill by most people's terms...
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 95,940
    edited November 2022

    As far as I can tell California has counted fuck all votes over the last 24 hours.

    Maybe they've all gone surfing instead.

    My guess is most counties are not scheduled to release more results until later in the afternoon-evening local time, which is now 12.30pm Pacific.

    That's what's happening today in Washington State today, in counties that did NOT hit bottom last week or over the weekend.

    For example, based on what I'm seeing on their webcams, King Co Elections is currently busting their hump processing and scanning ballots prior to scheduled 4pm Pacific (12 midnight UK) report.

    https://kingcounty.gov/depts/elections/about-us/security-and-accountability/watch-us-in-action.aspx
    "Busting their hump processing"

    I literally have no idea what that means. It must be a fancy American term for fucking about.

    Can you please tell your compatriots to stop taking fannying around to a new art form and count the fucking votes?
    "busting a hump" = working hard

    Sorry, but speedy clearing of your election bets is NOT a priority.

    Though why California IS so sloooooow is a puzzle. They have valid votes still arriving BUT so do OR and WA.
    Yeah, it's bollocks though, innit?

    We and India manage to count in a day.

    It might be lack of resources, a sloppy postal service, a lack of organisation, or maybe a desire to keep the suspense going as long as possible, but it sure as hell ain't necessary or justified.

    Poor.
    I do accept several of the arguments as to why, in some of the close races, it might take several days with the methods chosen.

    But there's a couple reporting less than 50% - none of the explanations, about being careful, and ballots still coming in, and really long ballot papers, really address being that much slower than anwhere else in the country. And it's not like it isn't known that California can take ages. If with all the other issues other places are still considerably faster what else is there? So it must be policy to not only not 'rush', but to not even go steadily.
  • AlistairMAlistairM Posts: 2,005

    Speaking of lifes little mysteries

    Why do they always build castles at the top of hills

    Plays hell with my angina

    Very inconsiderate

    It feels the same about cathedrals: many seemed to be built near the top of hills (e.g. Ely, Durham, Lincoln). This was pointed out to me at St Davids, which is at the bottom of a hill; allegedly so it could not be seen by marauders at sea. Or because they wanted it to be protected from the weather. ;)
    Have you named the only 3 on hills? Most I think aren't. York, Wells, Salisbury, Beverley.
    The original cathedral in Salisbury (Old Sarum) is on a hill.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 70,678
    Scott_xP said:

    Scott_xP said:

    @sampullara Part of today will be turning off the “microservices” bloatware. Less than 20% are actually needed for Twitter to work!
    https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1592177471654604800

    Yeah, this guy is a GENIUS...

    apparently they didnt turn off 2-factor authentication but they DID turn off the service that sends you the 2-factor authentication code. so if you log out and try to log in with an authentication code you simply wont receive one. lol. lmao https://twitter.com/zachsilberberg/status/1592228112770924544

    All the people calling Elon Musk a moron will look pretty stupid if he turns Twitter around.
    That *if* is doing some fairly heavy lifting atm.

    Oops. Off to the lizard fanciers’ forum on Tory home for you.


    • Heavy lifting
    • Colour me …
    • IANAE/IANAL
    • Feature, not a bug
    • Ad hom
    • This
    • It’s a view
    • North of (to mean more than)
    • As I’ve said passim
    • One of those irregular verbs
    • Late of this parish
    • Nail. Head.
    • Unspoofable
    • …. (four dot ellipsis)
    • Living rent free in x’s heads



    Fuck off.

    Add that to your 'list'. ;)
    This...
    … and That.
  • Dura_AceDura_Ace Posts: 13,677

    Scott_xP said:

    @sampullara Part of today will be turning off the “microservices” bloatware. Less than 20% are actually needed for Twitter to work!
    https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1592177471654604800

    Yeah, this guy is a GENIUS...

    apparently they didnt turn off 2-factor authentication but they DID turn off the service that sends you the 2-factor authentication code. so if you log out and try to log in with an authentication code you simply wont receive one. lol. lmao https://twitter.com/zachsilberberg/status/1592228112770924544

    All the people calling Elon Musk a moron will look pretty stupid if he turns Twitter around.
    That *if* is doing some fairly heavy lifting atm.

    Oops. Off to the lizard fanciers’ forum on Tory home for you.


    • Heavy lifting
    • Colour me …
    • IANAE/IANAL
    • Feature, not a bug
    • Ad hom
    • This
    • It’s a view
    • North of (to mean more than)
    • As I’ve said passim
    • One of those irregular verbs
    • Late of this parish
    • Nail. Head.
    • Unspoofable
    • …. (four dot ellipsis)
    • Living rent free in x’s heads



    Next.
    Up to a point, Lord Copper.
    Defenestrate.
    Swivel eyed.
  • Speaking of lifes little mysteries

    Why do they always build castles at the top of hills


    Plays hell with my angina


    Very inconsiderate

    Which one? Plenty manage without but the height is handy.
    York is it called steep hill that its at the top of

    In Bolsover its up a steeper hill than Mark Fletcher has to climb from here to hang on to the seat for the Tories
    Steep Hill is in Lincoln. And it is.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 122,445
    ydoethur said:

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    The government now spends more on housing benefit than on transport or the Home Office.

    https://twitter.com/georgeeaton/status/1592164903544315905

    Should be abolished. 😠
    And how are those on low incomes supposed to house themselves if they cannot afford to rent without housing benefit and there is not enough public housing, even if more is being built again?
    Workhouses?

    They seem to have closed a lot of them. Still one at Southwell though I had to pay £10 to get in or was it to get out I forget
    Workhouses being reintroduced having been originally introduced by a classical Liberal government in the 19th century would I am sure suit Bart fine
    Workhouses in their 'classic' form were set up under the New Poor Law of 1834. The Liberal Party was not founded until 1859 when the Peelites, Radicals, and Whigs merged to form one party.
    By the Whig government, which formed the bulk of the new Liberal Party. So it was still a classical liberal government
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,194
    HYUFD said:

    ydoethur said:

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    The government now spends more on housing benefit than on transport or the Home Office.

    https://twitter.com/georgeeaton/status/1592164903544315905

    Should be abolished. 😠
    And how are those on low incomes supposed to house themselves if they cannot afford to rent without housing benefit and there is not enough public housing, even if more is being built again?
    Workhouses?

    They seem to have closed a lot of them. Still one at Southwell though I had to pay £10 to get in or was it to get out I forget
    Workhouses being reintroduced having been originally introduced by a classical Liberal government in the 19th century would I am sure suit Bart fine
    Workhouses in their 'classic' form were set up under the New Poor Law of 1834. The Liberal Party was not founded until 1859 when the Peelites, Radicals, and Whigs merged to form one party.
    By the Whig government, which formed the bulk of the new Liberal Party. So it was still a classical liberal government
    Called it...
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 95,940
    ydoethur said:

    HYUFD said:

    ydoethur said:

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    The government now spends more on housing benefit than on transport or the Home Office.

    https://twitter.com/georgeeaton/status/1592164903544315905

    Should be abolished. 😠
    And how are those on low incomes supposed to house themselves if they cannot afford to rent without housing benefit and there is not enough public housing, even if more is being built again?
    Workhouses?

    They seem to have closed a lot of them. Still one at Southwell though I had to pay £10 to get in or was it to get out I forget
    Workhouses being reintroduced having been originally introduced by a classical Liberal government in the 19th century would I am sure suit Bart fine
    Workhouses in their 'classic' form were set up under the New Poor Law of 1834. The Liberal Party was not founded until 1859 when the Peelites, Radicals, and Whigs merged to form one party.
    By the Whig government, which formed the bulk of the new Liberal Party. So it was still a classical liberal government
    Called it...
    That's like calling a win for the Harlem Globetrotters over the Washington Generals, you don't get kudos for that.
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 28,272

    As far as I can tell California has counted fuck all votes over the last 24 hours.

    Maybe they've all gone surfing instead.

    My guess is most counties are not scheduled to release more results until later in the afternoon-evening local time, which is now 12.30pm Pacific.

    That's what's happening today in Washington State today, in counties that did NOT hit bottom last week or over the weekend.

    For example, based on what I'm seeing on their webcams, King Co Elections is currently busting their hump processing and scanning ballots prior to scheduled 4pm Pacific (12 midnight UK) report.

    https://kingcounty.gov/depts/elections/about-us/security-and-accountability/watch-us-in-action.aspx
    "Busting their hump processing"

    I literally have no idea what that means. It must be a fancy American term for fucking about.

    Can you please tell your compatriots to stop taking fannying around to a new art form and count the fucking votes?
    "busting a hump" = working hard

    Sorry, but speedy clearing of your election bets is NOT a priority.

    Though why California IS so sloooooow is a puzzle. They have valid votes still arriving BUT so do OR and WA.
    Could there not just be a cut-off point that votes have to be in with enough time to count them at the same time that everyone else's votes get counted? The system is farcical. When Nigel Farage stood in Thanet South, some boxes of votes went missing for a period of mere hours, leading to accusations that the vote was rigged to keep him out of the Commons. That was a few hours. Your system by contrast is so open to abuse that even I could probably rig it if I felt so inclined.
  • MoonRabbitMoonRabbit Posts: 13,370
    kle4 said:

    ydoethur said:

    Speaking of lifes little mysteries

    Why do they always build castles at the top of hills


    Plays hell with my angina


    Very inconsiderate

    Bodiam's in a valley, as is Bere. Berkeley is on a river bank. Pevensey, Caernarfon and Beaumaris are on the coast.
    Hastings Castle is at the bottom of a cliff. Well, half of it is.
    If only Cnut had put a sandcastle on the beach instead of himself perhaps the architects of Hastings would have realised their folly.
    I think Cnuts point was he was going to get wet, having mere limited powers.

    Have I missed a mini thread on Sheep Farming? There’s just too much to watch on television!
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 56,981

    As far as I can tell California has counted fuck all votes over the last 24 hours.

    Maybe they've all gone surfing instead.

    My guess is most counties are not scheduled to release more results until later in the afternoon-evening local time, which is now 12.30pm Pacific.

    That's what's happening today in Washington State today, in counties that did NOT hit bottom last week or over the weekend.

    For example, based on what I'm seeing on their webcams, King Co Elections is currently busting their hump processing and scanning ballots prior to scheduled 4pm Pacific (12 midnight UK) report.

    https://kingcounty.gov/depts/elections/about-us/security-and-accountability/watch-us-in-action.aspx
    "Busting their hump processing"

    I literally have no idea what that means. It must be a fancy American term for fucking about.

    Can you please tell your compatriots to stop taking fannying around to a new art form and count the fucking votes?
    "busting a hump" = working hard

    Sorry, but speedy clearing of your election bets is NOT a priority.

    Though why California IS so sloooooow is a puzzle. They have valid votes still arriving BUT so do OR and WA.
    Could there not just be a cut-off point that votes have to be in with enough time to count them at the same time that everyone else's votes get counted? The system is farcical. When Nigel Farage stood in Thanet South, some boxes of votes went missing for a period of mere hours, leading to accusations that the vote was rigged to keep him out of the Commons. That was a few hours. Your system by contrast is so open to abuse that even I could probably rig it if I felt so inclined.
    You really couldn't.

    Just because it is stupidly slow, doesn't mean it is meaningfully insecure.
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