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The Republicans now a 69% betting chance for Senate control – politicalbetting.com

SystemSystem Posts: 8,489
edited November 15 in General
imageThe Republicans now a 69% betting chance for Senate control – politicalbetting.com

The big political betting markets at the moment are on next Tuesday’s midterm elections when the big issue will be whether the Democrats will lose control of the Senate. At the moment it is a 50-50 split with the VP, Kamala Harris, having the casting vote. A loss of House control looks pretty certain.

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  • 69%?

    Nice.
  • Ishmael_ZIshmael_Z Posts: 8,981
    Metaverse will catch on eventually as will 3D cinema and flying cars. Compare Zoom. Sci-fi from the 1950s on is full of videophones, but when they arrived with facetime they turned out to be a bit shit. Then covid and boom. There's no reason to suppose it will catch on before Facebook runs out of money though,, and what will catch on will be a leaner meaner iteration untainted by Facebooks fuddy duddy baggage.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 28,251
    Conservative MPs were talking this week about a “devil’s bargain” between Rishi Sunak and Suella Braverman.

    Will the deal that put Sunak to No10 hold, or backfire and cause collateral damage to his nascent premiership?

    @FinancialTimes weekend analysis https://www.ft.com/content/afc7a4b7-6cfa-499d-86ce-41e1766591a7
  • mwadamsmwadams Posts: 2,278
    Ishmael_Z said:

    Metaverse will catch on eventually as will 3D cinema and flying cars. Compare Zoom. Sci-fi from the 1950s on is full of videophones, but when they arrived with facetime they turned out to be a bit shit. Then covid and boom. There's no reason to suppose it will catch on before Facebook runs out of money though,, and what will catch on will be a leaner meaner iteration untainted by Facebooks fuddy duddy baggage.

    "The metaverse" will arrive but a) it will be several technology iterations on from the present and b) it won't arrive because someone has built "the metaverse" but because it is the substrate for something in particular.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 48,197
    I'm betting on Republicans having 50 seats and no overall control.

    Could be wrong, very wrong, but that's my angle.

    I'm very confident about them taking the House.
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 17,712
    FPT... Thanks for the advice on using Twitter.

    By pure fluke I found my way to the homepage, and from there reached the list of accounts I* am following.

    *Actually "we", since it is Wor Lass' account. So a heady mixture of Greenery, political wonkery and railways.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 28,924

    FPT... Thanks for the advice on using Twitter.

    By pure fluke I found my way to the homepage, and from there reached the list of accounts I* am following.

    *Actually "we", since it is Wor Lass' account. So a heady mixture of Greenery, political wonkery and railways.

    Make sure you follow quite a few people who are smart - that you disagree with. Keeps you on your toes and well informed

    Also follow random crazies, boffins, geeks, artists. Keep it varied
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 81,486



    *Actually "we", since it is Wor Lass' account. So a heady mixture of Greenery, political wonkery and railways.

    Sounds very...PB

  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 47,047
    Just about to watch the final part of SAS Rogue Heroes - thoroughly enjoyable. You can tell it is the Peeky Blinders team when The Damned is the soundtrack to a raid on an airfield!
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 81,486
    Martin10 said:

    Nigelb said:

    On topic, is DeSantis going to claim God has endorsed him over Trump ?

    Trump and DeSantis barrel toward 2024 — but keep their distance in Florida
    https://www.politico.com/news/2022/11/05/trump-desantis-barrel-toward-2024-00065247
    … “He can do what he wants, but Trump’s team made DeSantis,” Sabatini said of the governor. “He would have lost [in 2018] by 10, 20, maybe 30 points without Trump’s endorsement.”

    “He definitely owes him. Big time,” he added…

    I sense a trump desantis dream ticket coming
    Shudder

    Also, everyone seems to agree being VP is usually a thankless job, so why would de Santis want it?

    I reckon a lot of Republicans will kowtow and hope that Trump cannot then install one of his kids as a follow up candidate in years to come.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 81,486
    Ok, this one I know was a Yes Prime Minister episode

    Arts Council England has just released its funding decisions for the next three years - and opera's the one to take the hit. English National Opera no longer getting any regular funding, Royal Opera House down 10%, Welsh National Opera down 34%, Glyndebourne down 50%

    https://twitter.com/alexmarshall81/status/1588489054840311808
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 10,683
    Ishmael_Z said:

    Metaverse will catch on eventually as will 3D cinema and flying cars. Compare Zoom. Sci-fi from the 1950s on is full of videophones, but when they arrived with facetime they turned out to be a bit shit. Then covid and boom. There's no reason to suppose it will catch on before Facebook runs out of money though,, and what will catch on will be a leaner meaner iteration untainted by Facebooks fuddy duddy baggage.

    For 3D cinema/TV to catch on I suspect it will need to be available without needing special glasses.
  • ohnotnowohnotnow Posts: 643
    FPT:
    Leon said:


    I meant one of the Big Five

    Meta, Amazon, Google, Microsoft, Apple

    Which will fall first? A few years ago I would have guessed Microsoft but they seem to have upped their game. Now I’d guess Meta

    You missed out Netflix, which is the one that looks shakiest to me.
  • ohnotnowohnotnow Posts: 643
    Ishmael_Z said:

    Metaverse will catch on eventually as will 3D cinema and flying cars. Compare Zoom. Sci-fi from the 1950s on is full of videophones, but when they arrived with facetime they turned out to be a bit shit. Then covid and boom. There's no reason to suppose it will catch on before Facebook runs out of money though,, and what will catch on will be a leaner meaner iteration untainted by Facebooks fuddy duddy baggage.

    There was an article on the BBC the other day listing eye-watering amounts of cash being spent 'in the metaverse' (not necessarily the FB one). I don't think I've even met anyone who's met anyone who's used it - so it was kinda suprising.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-63488059
  • ohnotnowohnotnow Posts: 643
    OT, but some news from France :

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-63525377

    "France's far-right National Rally (RN) has confirmed 27-year-old Jordan Bardella as the replacement as party leader for Marine Le Pen.

    Ms Le Pen will focus instead on leading the party's group in parliament, after it took 89 seats in the National Assembly earlier this year.

    It marks the first time in its 50-year history that the main far-right party has not been led by a Le Pen.

    But the move does not mark a major change in direction for the party. "
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 81,486
    Leon said:


    I meant one of the Big Five

    Meta, Amazon, Google, Microsoft, Apple

    Which will fall first? A few years ago I would have guessed Microsoft but they seem to have upped their game. Now I’d guess Meta

    As someone who doesn't use Facebook and only Whatsapp I'd probably be less affected by Meta falling

    What about which will rise next?

    In Scott Galloway's book The Four he doesn't even include Microsoft (I forget the reasoning).

    I recall he looks at a few would be contenders to be next (whilst thinking the big four won't lose dominance for a generation), from Alibaba to Uber to Tesla.

  • Pagan2Pagan2 Posts: 5,427
    ohnotnow said:

    Ishmael_Z said:

    Metaverse will catch on eventually as will 3D cinema and flying cars. Compare Zoom. Sci-fi from the 1950s on is full of videophones, but when they arrived with facetime they turned out to be a bit shit. Then covid and boom. There's no reason to suppose it will catch on before Facebook runs out of money though,, and what will catch on will be a leaner meaner iteration untainted by Facebooks fuddy duddy baggage.

    There was an article on the BBC the other day listing eye-watering amounts of cash being spent 'in the metaverse' (not necessarily the FB one). I don't think I've even met anyone who's met anyone who's used it - so it was kinda suprising.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-63488059
    I really dont understand this article....just read it and can't see it is any different from second life which launched 20 years ago....except for the fact the graphics are shittier than second life. Second life is also got all the things it lists....own world currency which you can convert back to rl currency etc...ability to make and sell things. Whoever wrote this seems to think these "metaversi" are conceptually new
  • WillGWillG Posts: 609
    ohnotnow said:

    Ishmael_Z said:

    Metaverse will catch on eventually as will 3D cinema and flying cars. Compare Zoom. Sci-fi from the 1950s on is full of videophones, but when they arrived with facetime they turned out to be a bit shit. Then covid and boom. There's no reason to suppose it will catch on before Facebook runs out of money though,, and what will catch on will be a leaner meaner iteration untainted by Facebooks fuddy duddy baggage.

    There was an article on the BBC the other day listing eye-watering amounts of cash being spent 'in the metaverse' (not necessarily the FB one). I don't think I've even met anyone who's met anyone who's used it - so it was kinda suprising.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-63488059
    Is there any difference between this and SecondLife?
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 48,197

    Just about to watch the final part of SAS Rogue Heroes - thoroughly enjoyable. You can tell it is the Peeky Blinders team when The Damned is the soundtrack to a raid on an airfield!

    Bit too much of a modernist take for me - too many fucks and metal music.
  • WillGWillG Posts: 609
    kle4 said:

    Martin10 said:

    Nigelb said:

    On topic, is DeSantis going to claim God has endorsed him over Trump ?

    Trump and DeSantis barrel toward 2024 — but keep their distance in Florida
    https://www.politico.com/news/2022/11/05/trump-desantis-barrel-toward-2024-00065247
    … “He can do what he wants, but Trump’s team made DeSantis,” Sabatini said of the governor. “He would have lost [in 2018] by 10, 20, maybe 30 points without Trump’s endorsement.”

    “He definitely owes him. Big time,” he added…

    I sense a trump desantis dream ticket coming
    Shudder

    Also, everyone seems to agree being VP is usually a thankless job, so why would de Santis want it?

    I reckon a lot of Republicans will kowtow and hope that Trump cannot then install one of his kids as a follow up candidate in years to come.
    Trump wouldn't pick DeSantis as he likes someone loyal, attractive and charismatic. The only reason he picked Pence was because he needed a bridge to evangelicals. And he regretted it later.

    DeSantis wouldn't take it as he knows Trump ends up destroying anyone who works for him.
  • ohnotnowohnotnow Posts: 643
    Pagan2 said:

    ohnotnow said:

    Ishmael_Z said:

    Metaverse will catch on eventually as will 3D cinema and flying cars. Compare Zoom. Sci-fi from the 1950s on is full of videophones, but when they arrived with facetime they turned out to be a bit shit. Then covid and boom. There's no reason to suppose it will catch on before Facebook runs out of money though,, and what will catch on will be a leaner meaner iteration untainted by Facebooks fuddy duddy baggage.

    There was an article on the BBC the other day listing eye-watering amounts of cash being spent 'in the metaverse' (not necessarily the FB one). I don't think I've even met anyone who's met anyone who's used it - so it was kinda suprising.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-63488059
    I really dont understand this article....just read it and can't see it is any different from second life which launched 20 years ago....except for the fact the graphics are shittier than second life. Second life is also got all the things it lists....own world currency which you can convert back to rl currency etc...ability to make and sell things. Whoever wrote this seems to think these "metaversi" are conceptually new
    But... it's a tech article on the BBC. How could it not be well researched by someone with in-depth knowledge of the field? Answer me that one, eh?.....
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 10,683
    Call off the RL- this isn’t sport.
    I watched the England vs Romania ‘test’ match that ended 148 nil. Fun for five minutes, then apparent that the game should not be taking place.
  • Pagan2Pagan2 Posts: 5,427
    WillG said:

    ohnotnow said:

    Ishmael_Z said:

    Metaverse will catch on eventually as will 3D cinema and flying cars. Compare Zoom. Sci-fi from the 1950s on is full of videophones, but when they arrived with facetime they turned out to be a bit shit. Then covid and boom. There's no reason to suppose it will catch on before Facebook runs out of money though,, and what will catch on will be a leaner meaner iteration untainted by Facebooks fuddy duddy baggage.

    There was an article on the BBC the other day listing eye-watering amounts of cash being spent 'in the metaverse' (not necessarily the FB one). I don't think I've even met anyone who's met anyone who's used it - so it was kinda suprising.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-63488059
    Is there any difference between this and SecondLife?
    Yes secondlife has far better graphics
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 19,625
    Scott_xP said:

    Conservative MPs were talking this week about a “devil’s bargain” between Rishi Sunak and Suella Braverman.

    Will the deal that put Sunak to No10 hold, or backfire and cause collateral damage to his nascent premiership?

    @FinancialTimes weekend analysis https://www.ft.com/content/afc7a4b7-6cfa-499d-86ce-41e1766591a7

    At this point, I think it's more a question of whether he was cause collateral damage to Bravermann. He's worse than useless.
  • TazTaz Posts: 6,235
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-devon-63519627

    😂😂😂😂😂

    Migrants should be spread around the country not just dumped in poorer parts of the country.

  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 10,683

    Call off the RL- this isn’t sport.
    I watched the England vs Romania ‘test’ match that ended 148 nil. Fun for five minutes, then apparent that the game should not be taking place.

    On checking, it was ‘just’ 134 points to nil.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 28,924
    The Welsh anthem remains the best in the world
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 10,683
    Leon said:

    The Welsh anthem remains the best in the world

    Just turned over to see aabout 2000 people on the pitch. It really was a lot simpler in the 80’s.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 81,486
    Pagan2 said:

    ohnotnow said:

    Ishmael_Z said:

    Metaverse will catch on eventually as will 3D cinema and flying cars. Compare Zoom. Sci-fi from the 1950s on is full of videophones, but when they arrived with facetime they turned out to be a bit shit. Then covid and boom. There's no reason to suppose it will catch on before Facebook runs out of money though,, and what will catch on will be a leaner meaner iteration untainted by Facebooks fuddy duddy baggage.

    There was an article on the BBC the other day listing eye-watering amounts of cash being spent 'in the metaverse' (not necessarily the FB one). I don't think I've even met anyone who's met anyone who's used it - so it was kinda suprising.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-63488059
    I really dont understand this article....just read it and can't see it is any different from second life which launched 20 years ago....except for the fact the graphics are shittier than second life. Second life is also got all the things it lists....own world currency which you can convert back to rl currency etc...ability to make and sell things. Whoever wrote this seems to think these "metaversi" are conceptually new
    Yeah, but back then it was only nerds who were interested, now its really rich nerds who own companies journliasts care about.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 81,486
    Leon said:

    The Welsh anthem remains the best in the world

    I have a secret admiration for the French.
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 10,683
    kle4 said:

    Leon said:

    The Welsh anthem remains the best in the world

    I have a secret admiration for the French.
    Yes, but what about their anthem?
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 28,149
    Taz said:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-devon-63519627

    😂😂😂😂😂

    Migrants should be spread around the country not just dumped in poorer parts of the country.

    Hmmmm. A few days back:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-humber-63446845

    'An East Yorkshire village hotel has been told it cannot house asylum seekers after a council secured an interim High Court injunction.

    On Sunday, East Riding of Yorkshire Council confirmed it had gone to the High Court to stop Humber View Hotel in North Ferriby being used to house those seeking asylum.
    [...]

    A copy of the injunction, dated 28 October and seen by the BBC, has been attached to the front of the hotel, and halts any plans to house asylum seekers until a hearing on 7 November.

    It also prevents other hotels within the East Riding of Yorkshire being used to accommodate asylum seekers.'

    Hmm again. The Council is majority Conservative, though the local councillor quoted in extenso is LD. And I *think* Mr Davis D is the MP.

    At least the HO is being equal opps, or Ms Braverman is really trying to whip up the troops - whichever interpretation you prefer.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 81,486
    WillG said:

    kle4 said:

    Martin10 said:

    Nigelb said:

    On topic, is DeSantis going to claim God has endorsed him over Trump ?

    Trump and DeSantis barrel toward 2024 — but keep their distance in Florida
    https://www.politico.com/news/2022/11/05/trump-desantis-barrel-toward-2024-00065247
    … “He can do what he wants, but Trump’s team made DeSantis,” Sabatini said of the governor. “He would have lost [in 2018] by 10, 20, maybe 30 points without Trump’s endorsement.”

    “He definitely owes him. Big time,” he added…

    I sense a trump desantis dream ticket coming
    Shudder

    Also, everyone seems to agree being VP is usually a thankless job, so why would de Santis want it?

    I reckon a lot of Republicans will kowtow and hope that Trump cannot then install one of his kids as a follow up candidate in years to come.
    Trump wouldn't pick DeSantis as he likes someone loyal, attractive and charismatic. The only reason he picked Pence was because he needed a bridge to evangelicals. And he regretted it later.

    DeSantis wouldn't take it as he knows Trump ends up destroying anyone who works for him.
    WillG said:

    kle4 said:

    Martin10 said:

    Nigelb said:

    On topic, is DeSantis going to claim God has endorsed him over Trump ?

    Trump and DeSantis barrel toward 2024 — but keep their distance in Florida
    https://www.politico.com/news/2022/11/05/trump-desantis-barrel-toward-2024-00065247
    … “He can do what he wants, but Trump’s team made DeSantis,” Sabatini said of the governor. “He would have lost [in 2018] by 10, 20, maybe 30 points without Trump’s endorsement.”

    “He definitely owes him. Big time,” he added…

    I sense a trump desantis dream ticket coming
    Shudder

    Also, everyone seems to agree being VP is usually a thankless job, so why would de Santis want it?

    I reckon a lot of Republicans will kowtow and hope that Trump cannot then install one of his kids as a follow up candidate in years to come.
    Trump wouldn't pick DeSantis as he likes someone loyal, attractive and charismatic. The only reason he picked Pence was because he needed a bridge to evangelicals. And he regretted it later.

    DeSantis wouldn't take it as he knows Trump ends up destroying anyone who works for him.
    He should know that, yet people keep working for him nonetheless! Most of them are still loyal to him, or at least dare not criticise him, even when he destroys them.
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 28,149

    Just about to watch the final part of SAS Rogue Heroes - thoroughly enjoyable. You can tell it is the Peeky Blinders team when The Damned is the soundtrack to a raid on an airfield!

    Bit too much of a modernist take for me - too many fucks and metal music.
    Too many fucks in an Army context is modern?
  • Pagan2Pagan2 Posts: 5,427
    kle4 said:

    Pagan2 said:

    ohnotnow said:

    Ishmael_Z said:

    Metaverse will catch on eventually as will 3D cinema and flying cars. Compare Zoom. Sci-fi from the 1950s on is full of videophones, but when they arrived with facetime they turned out to be a bit shit. Then covid and boom. There's no reason to suppose it will catch on before Facebook runs out of money though,, and what will catch on will be a leaner meaner iteration untainted by Facebooks fuddy duddy baggage.

    There was an article on the BBC the other day listing eye-watering amounts of cash being spent 'in the metaverse' (not necessarily the FB one). I don't think I've even met anyone who's met anyone who's used it - so it was kinda suprising.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-63488059
    I really dont understand this article....just read it and can't see it is any different from second life which launched 20 years ago....except for the fact the graphics are shittier than second life. Second life is also got all the things it lists....own world currency which you can convert back to rl currency etc...ability to make and sell things. Whoever wrote this seems to think these "metaversi" are conceptually new
    Yeah, but back then it was only nerds who were interested, now its really rich nerds who own companies journliasts care about.
    Second life still has a lot of users and probably more than these worlds I expect. Just checked and there is currently 39,921 users in world as we speak. And yes I go in second life my family has a small plot there that we use for social gatherings, dancing , bowling , games etc. So much better than posting on faecesbook
  • LeonLeon Posts: 28,924
    kle4 said:

    Leon said:

    The Welsh anthem remains the best in the world

    I have a secret admiration for the French.
    The French anthem is bouncy and cheering - it’s a top ten - but it’s really hard to sing which is a key failing. The Welsh anthem is considerably more stirring

    I’d put the Welsh first, then Russia, then France third

    Scotland bottom
  • Dura_AceDura_Ace Posts: 10,487
    edited November 5
    Carnyx said:


    Too many fucks in an Army context is modern?

    My paternal grandfather fought in WW2 and every other word out of his mouth was 'fuck'. The other was 'c*nt'.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 48,486
    kle4 said:

    Ok, this one I know was a Yes Prime Minister episode

    Arts Council England has just released its funding decisions for the next three years - and opera's the one to take the hit. English National Opera no longer getting any regular funding, Royal Opera House down 10%, Welsh National Opera down 34%, Glyndebourne down 50%

    https://twitter.com/alexmarshall81/status/1588489054840311808

    The ENO makes opera for ordinary people, which is presumably why funding was cut.
  • logical_songlogical_song Posts: 9,301
    kle4 said:

    Martin10 said:

    Nigelb said:

    On topic, is DeSantis going to claim God has endorsed him over Trump ?

    Trump and DeSantis barrel toward 2024 — but keep their distance in Florida
    https://www.politico.com/news/2022/11/05/trump-desantis-barrel-toward-2024-00065247
    … “He can do what he wants, but Trump’s team made DeSantis,” Sabatini said of the governor. “He would have lost [in 2018] by 10, 20, maybe 30 points without Trump’s endorsement.”

    “He definitely owes him. Big time,” he added…

    I sense a trump desantis dream ticket coming
    Shudder

    Also, everyone seems to agree being VP is usually a thankless job, so why would de Santis want it?

    I reckon a lot of Republicans will kowtow and hope that Trump cannot then install one of his kids as a follow up candidate in years to come.
    Nightmare ticket.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 48,486
    ohnotnow said:

    FPT:

    Leon said:


    I meant one of the Big Five

    Meta, Amazon, Google, Microsoft, Apple

    Which will fall first? A few years ago I would have guessed Microsoft but they seem to have upped their game. Now I’d guess Meta

    You missed out Netflix, which is the one that looks shakiest to me.
    Yes, it used to FAANG:

    Facebook
    Amazon
    Apple
    Netflix
    Google

    But Netflix has cratered, and now MSFT is worth much more than Google.

    Which shows that impermanence is the only permanent thing.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 28,924
    Far too easy for the All Blax
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 81,486
    Leon said:


    kle4 said:

    Leon said:

    The Welsh anthem remains the best in the world

    I have a secret admiration for the French.
    The French anthem is bouncy and cheering - it’s a top ten - but it’s really hard to sing which is a key failing. The Welsh anthem is considerably more stirring

    I’d put the Welsh first, then Russia, then France third

    Scotland bottom
    Very cheering

    Arise, children of the Fatherland,
    The day of glory has arrived!
    Against us, tyranny's
    Bloody standard is raised, (repeated)
    Do you hear, in the countryside,
    The roar of those ferocious soldiers?
    They're coming right into your arms
    To cut the throats of your sons, your women!


    Refrain:
    𝄆 To arms, citizens,
    Form your battalions,
    March, march!
    Let an impure blood
    Water our furrows
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 48,486
    ohnotnow said:

    Ishmael_Z said:

    Metaverse will catch on eventually as will 3D cinema and flying cars. Compare Zoom. Sci-fi from the 1950s on is full of videophones, but when they arrived with facetime they turned out to be a bit shit. Then covid and boom. There's no reason to suppose it will catch on before Facebook runs out of money though,, and what will catch on will be a leaner meaner iteration untainted by Facebooks fuddy duddy baggage.

    There was an article on the BBC the other day listing eye-watering amounts of cash being spent 'in the metaverse' (not necessarily the FB one). I don't think I've even met anyone who's met anyone who's used it - so it was kinda suprising.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-63488059
    Twenty years ago, there was Second Life - the first attempt at a metaverse, and which raised billions.

    Politicians even had campaign events in it.

    It was best described by a friend of mine as "Second Life is for people who don't have a first life."
  • Dura_AceDura_Ace Posts: 10,487
    kle4 said:

    Martin10 said:

    Nigelb said:

    On topic, is DeSantis going to claim God has endorsed him over Trump ?

    Trump and DeSantis barrel toward 2024 — but keep their distance in Florida
    https://www.politico.com/news/2022/11/05/trump-desantis-barrel-toward-2024-00065247
    … “He can do what he wants, but Trump’s team made DeSantis,” Sabatini said of the governor. “He would have lost [in 2018] by 10, 20, maybe 30 points without Trump’s endorsement.”

    “He definitely owes him. Big time,” he added…

    I sense a trump desantis dream ticket coming
    Shudder

    Also, everyone seems to agree being VP is usually a thankless job, so why would de Santis want it?

    Because it's a very good shot at POTUS in 2028?

    I think RDS is too ambitious for DJT. I can't see any of his horrendous kids doing it. DJTJ is Hunter Biden not on crack. Eric appears to have significant mental impairment. Ivanka is a bit too 'Davos'.

    He'll probably go for another slavishly loyal god botherer of limited intellect and ambition.
  • Pagan2Pagan2 Posts: 5,427
    rcs1000 said:

    ohnotnow said:

    Ishmael_Z said:

    Metaverse will catch on eventually as will 3D cinema and flying cars. Compare Zoom. Sci-fi from the 1950s on is full of videophones, but when they arrived with facetime they turned out to be a bit shit. Then covid and boom. There's no reason to suppose it will catch on before Facebook runs out of money though,, and what will catch on will be a leaner meaner iteration untainted by Facebooks fuddy duddy baggage.

    There was an article on the BBC the other day listing eye-watering amounts of cash being spent 'in the metaverse' (not necessarily the FB one). I don't think I've even met anyone who's met anyone who's used it - so it was kinda suprising.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-63488059
    Twenty years ago, there was Second Life - the first attempt at a metaverse, and which raised billions.

    Politicians even had campaign events in it.

    It was best described by a friend of mine as "Second Life is for people who don't have a first life."
    There are certainly people who overuse it but then the same could be said of PB where I am sure we can all think of posters who are here almost 24/7 and as I have said SL is still very much live and kicking and has evolved greatly from those early days and I know a few people that make a decent wedge of cash there still
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 32,303
    edited November 5
    Yes, the 1.1 for the Crazies taking the House looks free money sadly. But a better value - and way more uplifting - bet is England for the RLWC @ 6. Also, the world's best horse - Flightline - is running in the Breeders today. I'm on that @ 1.45.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 48,486
    Pagan2 said:

    WillG said:

    ohnotnow said:

    Ishmael_Z said:

    Metaverse will catch on eventually as will 3D cinema and flying cars. Compare Zoom. Sci-fi from the 1950s on is full of videophones, but when they arrived with facetime they turned out to be a bit shit. Then covid and boom. There's no reason to suppose it will catch on before Facebook runs out of money though,, and what will catch on will be a leaner meaner iteration untainted by Facebooks fuddy duddy baggage.

    There was an article on the BBC the other day listing eye-watering amounts of cash being spent 'in the metaverse' (not necessarily the FB one). I don't think I've even met anyone who's met anyone who's used it - so it was kinda suprising.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-63488059
    Is there any difference between this and SecondLife?
    Yes secondlife has far better graphics
    Second Life had worse graphics than you remember. It was also full of flying penises.
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 23,758
    edited November 5
    rcs1000 said:

    ohnotnow said:

    FPT:

    Leon said:


    I meant one of the Big Five

    Meta, Amazon, Google, Microsoft, Apple

    Which will fall first? A few years ago I would have guessed Microsoft but they seem to have upped their game. Now I’d guess Meta

    You missed out Netflix, which is the one that looks shakiest to me.
    Yes, it used to FAANG:

    Facebook
    Amazon
    Apple
    Netflix
    Google

    But Netflix has cratered, and now MSFT is worth much more than Google.

    Which shows that impermanence is the only permanent thing.
    The history of leading spreadsheets proves it.

    (Well, up until Excel anyway, although... Google Sheets.)
  • Pagan2Pagan2 Posts: 5,427
    rcs1000 said:

    Pagan2 said:

    WillG said:

    ohnotnow said:

    Ishmael_Z said:

    Metaverse will catch on eventually as will 3D cinema and flying cars. Compare Zoom. Sci-fi from the 1950s on is full of videophones, but when they arrived with facetime they turned out to be a bit shit. Then covid and boom. There's no reason to suppose it will catch on before Facebook runs out of money though,, and what will catch on will be a leaner meaner iteration untainted by Facebooks fuddy duddy baggage.

    There was an article on the BBC the other day listing eye-watering amounts of cash being spent 'in the metaverse' (not necessarily the FB one). I don't think I've even met anyone who's met anyone who's used it - so it was kinda suprising.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-63488059
    Is there any difference between this and SecondLife?
    Yes secondlife has far better graphics
    Second Life had worse graphics than you remember. It was also full of flying penises.
    Well I still log in, here for an example is a photo I did for my cousin of her halloween ball avatar
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 23,758
    rcs1000 said:

    Pagan2 said:

    WillG said:

    ohnotnow said:

    Ishmael_Z said:

    Metaverse will catch on eventually as will 3D cinema and flying cars. Compare Zoom. Sci-fi from the 1950s on is full of videophones, but when they arrived with facetime they turned out to be a bit shit. Then covid and boom. There's no reason to suppose it will catch on before Facebook runs out of money though,, and what will catch on will be a leaner meaner iteration untainted by Facebooks fuddy duddy baggage.

    There was an article on the BBC the other day listing eye-watering amounts of cash being spent 'in the metaverse' (not necessarily the FB one). I don't think I've even met anyone who's met anyone who's used it - so it was kinda suprising.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-63488059
    Is there any difference between this and SecondLife?
    Yes secondlife has far better graphics
    Second Life had worse graphics than you remember. It was also full of flying penises.
    That's not the kind of second life I'd wish for tbh.
  • Richard_TyndallRichard_Tyndall Posts: 27,631
    rcs1000 said:

    ohnotnow said:

    FPT:

    Leon said:


    I meant one of the Big Five

    Meta, Amazon, Google, Microsoft, Apple

    Which will fall first? A few years ago I would have guessed Microsoft but they seem to have upped their game. Now I’d guess Meta

    You missed out Netflix, which is the one that looks shakiest to me.
    Yes, it used to FAANG:

    Facebook
    Amazon
    Apple
    Netflix
    Google

    But Netflix has cratered, and now MSFT is worth much more than Google.

    Which shows that impermanence is the only permanent thing.
    I think you may be burying Netflix prematurely. Its Q3 numbers this year were miles better than expected and the markets reacted very favourably to them. That is on top of a 23% increase in revenue in 2021. I don't think they will be going anywhere for a long time.
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 23,758
    Dura_Ace said:

    kle4 said:

    Martin10 said:

    Nigelb said:

    On topic, is DeSantis going to claim God has endorsed him over Trump ?

    Trump and DeSantis barrel toward 2024 — but keep their distance in Florida
    https://www.politico.com/news/2022/11/05/trump-desantis-barrel-toward-2024-00065247
    … “He can do what he wants, but Trump’s team made DeSantis,” Sabatini said of the governor. “He would have lost [in 2018] by 10, 20, maybe 30 points without Trump’s endorsement.”

    “He definitely owes him. Big time,” he added…

    I sense a trump desantis dream ticket coming
    Shudder

    Also, everyone seems to agree being VP is usually a thankless job, so why would de Santis want it?

    Because it's a very good shot at POTUS in 2028?

    I think RDS is too ambitious for DJT. I can't see any of his horrendous kids doing it. DJTJ is Hunter Biden not on crack. Eric appears to have significant mental impairment. Ivanka is a bit too 'Davos'.

    He'll probably go for another slavishly loyal god botherer of limited intellect and ambition.
    HYUFD is not eligible though.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 48,486
    Leon said:


    kle4 said:

    Leon said:

    The Welsh anthem remains the best in the world

    I have a secret admiration for the French.
    The French anthem is bouncy and cheering - it’s a top ten - but it’s really hard to sing which is a key failing. The Welsh anthem is considerably more stirring

    I’d put the Welsh first, then Russia, then France third

    Scotland bottom
    Scotland doesn't really have a national anthem. They just play a Corrie's song, and pretend it's the national anthem.

    I'd put the US bottom. The Star Spangled Banner is weak musically, and utter nonsense lyrically.
  • Pagan2Pagan2 Posts: 5,427

    rcs1000 said:

    Pagan2 said:

    WillG said:

    ohnotnow said:

    Ishmael_Z said:

    Metaverse will catch on eventually as will 3D cinema and flying cars. Compare Zoom. Sci-fi from the 1950s on is full of videophones, but when they arrived with facetime they turned out to be a bit shit. Then covid and boom. There's no reason to suppose it will catch on before Facebook runs out of money though,, and what will catch on will be a leaner meaner iteration untainted by Facebooks fuddy duddy baggage.

    There was an article on the BBC the other day listing eye-watering amounts of cash being spent 'in the metaverse' (not necessarily the FB one). I don't think I've even met anyone who's met anyone who's used it - so it was kinda suprising.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-63488059
    Is there any difference between this and SecondLife?
    Yes secondlife has far better graphics
    Second Life had worse graphics than you remember. It was also full of flying penises.
    That's not the kind of second life I'd wish for tbh.
    Shrugs its a good way to socialise with friends and family and do stuff together. What I use it for certainly. The flying penises have pretty much been eradicated as they gave people tools to deal with griefers
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 55,103
    edited November 5
    Pagan2 said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Pagan2 said:

    WillG said:

    ohnotnow said:

    Ishmael_Z said:

    Metaverse will catch on eventually as will 3D cinema and flying cars. Compare Zoom. Sci-fi from the 1950s on is full of videophones, but when they arrived with facetime they turned out to be a bit shit. Then covid and boom. There's no reason to suppose it will catch on before Facebook runs out of money though,, and what will catch on will be a leaner meaner iteration untainted by Facebooks fuddy duddy baggage.

    There was an article on the BBC the other day listing eye-watering amounts of cash being spent 'in the metaverse' (not necessarily the FB one). I don't think I've even met anyone who's met anyone who's used it - so it was kinda suprising.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-63488059
    Is there any difference between this and SecondLife?
    Yes secondlife has far better graphics
    Second Life had worse graphics than you remember. It was also full of flying penises.
    Well I still log in, here for an example is a photo I did for my cousin of her halloween ball avatar
    Meta is fascinating. I think Zuckerberg is right that there is no long term future in Web 2.0 style social media community (already declining rapidly amongst the young iirc) and so the metaverse is a pretty good bet.

    Whether it is right to bet the whole farm on it as he seems to be doing is another matter.

  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 20,066
    The Metaverse sounds like a horrible idea. Real dystopian stuff.
  • Pagan2Pagan2 Posts: 5,427

    rcs1000 said:

    ohnotnow said:

    FPT:

    Leon said:


    I meant one of the Big Five

    Meta, Amazon, Google, Microsoft, Apple

    Which will fall first? A few years ago I would have guessed Microsoft but they seem to have upped their game. Now I’d guess Meta

    You missed out Netflix, which is the one that looks shakiest to me.
    Yes, it used to FAANG:

    Facebook
    Amazon
    Apple
    Netflix
    Google

    But Netflix has cratered, and now MSFT is worth much more than Google.

    Which shows that impermanence is the only permanent thing.
    I think you may be burying Netflix prematurely. Its Q3 numbers this year were miles better than expected and the markets reacted very favourably to them. That is on top of a 23% increase in revenue in 2021. I don't think they will be going anywhere for a long time.
    Netflix though is making a ton of unforced errors, for example cracking down on account sharing which they used to encourage at the same time as jacking up prices. Short term they will make more money however I know a lot of people rethinking their subscriptions.
  • Pagan2Pagan2 Posts: 5,427

    Pagan2 said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Pagan2 said:

    WillG said:

    ohnotnow said:

    Ishmael_Z said:

    Metaverse will catch on eventually as will 3D cinema and flying cars. Compare Zoom. Sci-fi from the 1950s on is full of videophones, but when they arrived with facetime they turned out to be a bit shit. Then covid and boom. There's no reason to suppose it will catch on before Facebook runs out of money though,, and what will catch on will be a leaner meaner iteration untainted by Facebooks fuddy duddy baggage.

    There was an article on the BBC the other day listing eye-watering amounts of cash being spent 'in the metaverse' (not necessarily the FB one). I don't think I've even met anyone who's met anyone who's used it - so it was kinda suprising.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-63488059
    Is there any difference between this and SecondLife?
    Yes secondlife has far better graphics
    Second Life had worse graphics than you remember. It was also full of flying penises.
    Well I still log in, here for an example is a photo I did for my cousin of her halloween ball avatar
    Meta is fascinating. I think Zuckerberg is right that there is no long term future in Web 2.0 style social media community (already declining rapidly amongst the young iirc) and so the metaverse is a pretty good bet.

    Whether it is right to bet the whole farm on it as he seems to be doing is another matter.

    I agree it is much nicer to meet as virtual avatars and do something together than asynchronous posts on facebook with a picture of what you had for breakfast. For example last night there were eight of us on playing cards against humanity cracking jokes enjoying a few drinks while being up to a 1000 miles distant geographically. Last week we had a bowling tournament...etc
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 10,683
    Just realised - no Eddie Butler. Very sad loss.
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 23,758
    edited November 5
    Talk of Metaverse etc. has got me thinking of the 80+ generation, many of who are excluded from the online world.

    Yes, I know there are numerous 80-somethings who are fully PC/Smartphone/Internet literate but the majority aren't. Mostly their initial 'can't see the point' attitude has now morphed into 'I wish I could but I'm too old to learn now'.

    So, I'm in my early 60s, what am I about to miss out on because the technology looks too daunting to get involved in?
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 48,486

    rcs1000 said:

    ohnotnow said:

    FPT:

    Leon said:


    I meant one of the Big Five

    Meta, Amazon, Google, Microsoft, Apple

    Which will fall first? A few years ago I would have guessed Microsoft but they seem to have upped their game. Now I’d guess Meta

    You missed out Netflix, which is the one that looks shakiest to me.
    Yes, it used to FAANG:

    Facebook
    Amazon
    Apple
    Netflix
    Google

    But Netflix has cratered, and now MSFT is worth much more than Google.

    Which shows that impermanence is the only permanent thing.
    I think you may be burying Netflix prematurely. Its Q3 numbers this year were miles better than expected and the markets reacted very favourably to them. That is on top of a 23% increase in revenue in 2021. I don't think they will be going anywhere for a long time.
    I'm not suggesting that it is going out of business, or will cease to be a large and powerful business, I'm merely saying that it's best days - as a stock - are probably behind it.

    Content is a tough business, and the hope was that Netflix would monopolize its production and distribution in the 21st Century. Every household - worldwide - would be a Netflix subscriber, and this would mean it had more money to spend on content than anyone else, and would be dominant.

    But they've struggled, because Disney and Amazon and Apple all have increasingly impressive streaming offerings. Four years ago, people only had one streaming offering, and it was almost certainly Netflix. Now, I have Disney+ESPN+Hulu, Netflix, Amazon and Apple. (And I pay $5/month for YouTube + YouTube Music.)

    If I wanted to save $15/month, it might well be Netflix I lost.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 48,486
    Dura_Ace said:

    kle4 said:

    Martin10 said:

    Nigelb said:

    On topic, is DeSantis going to claim God has endorsed him over Trump ?

    Trump and DeSantis barrel toward 2024 — but keep their distance in Florida
    https://www.politico.com/news/2022/11/05/trump-desantis-barrel-toward-2024-00065247
    … “He can do what he wants, but Trump’s team made DeSantis,” Sabatini said of the governor. “He would have lost [in 2018] by 10, 20, maybe 30 points without Trump’s endorsement.”

    “He definitely owes him. Big time,” he added…

    I sense a trump desantis dream ticket coming
    Shudder

    Also, everyone seems to agree being VP is usually a thankless job, so why would de Santis want it?

    Because it's a very good shot at POTUS in 2028?

    I think RDS is too ambitious for DJT. I can't see any of his horrendous kids doing it. DJTJ is Hunter Biden not on crack. Eric appears to have significant mental impairment. Ivanka is a bit too 'Davos'.

    He'll probably go for another slavishly loyal god botherer of limited intellect and ambition.
    I have a friend who was with DJTJ at Wharton. He would agree that he's not on *crack*.
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 23,758
    O/T Saw this heap of nothingness in Graun, made me wonder why they waste their money in such drivel:

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/nov/05/megathreats-global-leaders-disaster-world

    TL-DR: Man who says he predicted the 2008 crash says further shit gonna happen (probably).
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 48,486

    Talk of Metaverse etc. has got me thinking of the 80+ generation, many of who are excluded from the online world.

    Yes, I know there are numerous 80-somethings who are fully PC/Smartphone/Internet literate but the majority aren't. Mostly their initial 'can't see the point' attitude has now morphed into 'I wish I could but I'm too old to learn now'.

    So, I'm in my early 60s, what am I about to miss out on because the technology looks too daunting to get involved in?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVjFOwyy06g
  • Pagan2Pagan2 Posts: 5,427

    Talk of Metaverse etc. has got me thinking of the 80+ generation, many of who are excluded from the online world.

    Yes, I know there are numerous 80-somethings who are fully PC/Smartphone/Internet literate but the majority aren't. Mostly their initial 'can't see the point' attitude has now morphed into 'I wish I could but I'm too old to learn now'.

    So, I'm in my early 60s, what am I about to miss out on because the technology looks too daunting to get involved in?

    It is not that hard if you have someone willing to mentor you. I know a lot of for example disabled folk that use second life because it gives them the ability to do stuff they couldn't normally do such as go out dancing. Also some of them like the fact that no one knows of their disability unless they choose to reveal it so they don't (wrongly) get put in a mental silo.
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 23,758
    Pagan2 said:

    Talk of Metaverse etc. has got me thinking of the 80+ generation, many of who are excluded from the online world.

    Yes, I know there are numerous 80-somethings who are fully PC/Smartphone/Internet literate but the majority aren't. Mostly their initial 'can't see the point' attitude has now morphed into 'I wish I could but I'm too old to learn now'.

    So, I'm in my early 60s, what am I about to miss out on because the technology looks too daunting to get involved in?

    It is not that hard if you have someone willing to mentor you. I know a lot of for example disabled folk that use second life because it gives them the ability to do stuff they couldn't normally do such as go out dancing. Also some of them like the fact that no one knows of their disability unless they choose to reveal it so they don't (wrongly) get put in a mental silo.
    I can't see the point of Second Life. ;-)
  • Pagan2Pagan2 Posts: 5,427

    Pagan2 said:

    Talk of Metaverse etc. has got me thinking of the 80+ generation, many of who are excluded from the online world.

    Yes, I know there are numerous 80-somethings who are fully PC/Smartphone/Internet literate but the majority aren't. Mostly their initial 'can't see the point' attitude has now morphed into 'I wish I could but I'm too old to learn now'.

    So, I'm in my early 60s, what am I about to miss out on because the technology looks too daunting to get involved in?

    It is not that hard if you have someone willing to mentor you. I know a lot of for example disabled folk that use second life because it gives them the ability to do stuff they couldn't normally do such as go out dancing. Also some of them like the fact that no one knows of their disability unless they choose to reveal it so they don't (wrongly) get put in a mental silo.
    I can't see the point of Second Life. ;-)
    hehe I have much the same attitude to facebook
  • ohnotnowohnotnow Posts: 643
    Meanwhile, China continues it's covid policies as per https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/nov/05/chinas-unswerving-zero-covid-rules-see-no-let-up

    "Health officials in China on Saturday dashed hopes there would be a relaxation of the country’s strict Covid-19 restrictions. At a news conference, they insisted China would “unswervingly” stick to its zero-Covid policy which includes lockdowns, quarantining and rigorous testing aimed at stopping the spread of the coronavirus.

    The announcement follows several days’ speculation that they were considering changing a disease containment policy that has disrupted economic growth and daily life, and is increasingly out of step with the rest of the world."
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 42,824
    Pagan2 said:

    ohnotnow said:

    Ishmael_Z said:

    Metaverse will catch on eventually as will 3D cinema and flying cars. Compare Zoom. Sci-fi from the 1950s on is full of videophones, but when they arrived with facetime they turned out to be a bit shit. Then covid and boom. There's no reason to suppose it will catch on before Facebook runs out of money though,, and what will catch on will be a leaner meaner iteration untainted by Facebooks fuddy duddy baggage.

    There was an article on the BBC the other day listing eye-watering amounts of cash being spent 'in the metaverse' (not necessarily the FB one). I don't think I've even met anyone who's met anyone who's used it - so it was kinda suprising.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-63488059
    I really dont understand this article....just read it and can't see it is any different from second life which launched 20 years ago....except for the fact the graphics are shittier than second life. Second life is also got all the things it lists....own world currency which you can convert back to rl currency etc...ability to make and sell things. Whoever wrote this seems to think these "metaversi" are conceptually new
    The ideas are things like history lessons including pupils being immersed in historical situations, or surgeons practicing operations in the metaverse before being let loose on real patients. Whether these will become the norm, I don't know, but it's this type of stuff that has got Meta so worked up

  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 42,824

    Pagan2 said:

    Talk of Metaverse etc. has got me thinking of the 80+ generation, many of who are excluded from the online world.

    Yes, I know there are numerous 80-somethings who are fully PC/Smartphone/Internet literate but the majority aren't. Mostly their initial 'can't see the point' attitude has now morphed into 'I wish I could but I'm too old to learn now'.

    So, I'm in my early 60s, what am I about to miss out on because the technology looks too daunting to get involved in?

    It is not that hard if you have someone willing to mentor you. I know a lot of for example disabled folk that use second life because it gives them the ability to do stuff they couldn't normally do such as go out dancing. Also some of them like the fact that no one knows of their disability unless they choose to reveal it so they don't (wrongly) get put in a mental silo.
    I can't see the point of Second Life. ;-)
    Perhaps you need to move to the middle of nowheresville Iowa?
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 32,303
    rcs1000 said:

    Leon said:


    kle4 said:

    Leon said:

    The Welsh anthem remains the best in the world

    I have a secret admiration for the French.
    The French anthem is bouncy and cheering - it’s a top ten - but it’s really hard to sing which is a key failing. The Welsh anthem is considerably more stirring

    I’d put the Welsh first, then Russia, then France third

    Scotland bottom
    Scotland doesn't really have a national anthem. They just play a Corrie's song, and pretend it's the national anthem.

    I'd put the US bottom. The Star Spangled Banner is weak musically, and utter nonsense lyrically.
    The German for me. I lump up whenever I hear it.

    (also agree with the positive consensus on the Welsh one)
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 55,103
    "If you believe in insurrection, I'm not your candidate"


    TrumpsTaxes
    @TrumpsTaxes
    ·
    Oct 31

    This closing ad for Elaine Luria - in one #VA02, one of the closest House races in the country - is perfect.

    https://twitter.com/TrumpsTaxes/status/1587083909971451904
  • Pagan2Pagan2 Posts: 5,427
    IanB2 said:

    Pagan2 said:

    ohnotnow said:

    Ishmael_Z said:

    Metaverse will catch on eventually as will 3D cinema and flying cars. Compare Zoom. Sci-fi from the 1950s on is full of videophones, but when they arrived with facetime they turned out to be a bit shit. Then covid and boom. There's no reason to suppose it will catch on before Facebook runs out of money though,, and what will catch on will be a leaner meaner iteration untainted by Facebooks fuddy duddy baggage.

    There was an article on the BBC the other day listing eye-watering amounts of cash being spent 'in the metaverse' (not necessarily the FB one). I don't think I've even met anyone who's met anyone who's used it - so it was kinda suprising.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-63488059
    I really dont understand this article....just read it and can't see it is any different from second life which launched 20 years ago....except for the fact the graphics are shittier than second life. Second life is also got all the things it lists....own world currency which you can convert back to rl currency etc...ability to make and sell things. Whoever wrote this seems to think these "metaversi" are conceptually new
    The ideas are things like history lessons including pupils being immersed in historical situations, or surgeons practicing operations in the metaverse before being let loose on real patients. Whether these will become the norm, I don't know, but it's this type of stuff that has got Meta so worked up

    You don't need a metaverse for that and in fact I would argue that they are much better handled by stand alone custom built app's. As soon as a metaverse style thing is involved it imposes limitations on what you can do as it has to fit with in the metaverse framework. I have seen some very good educational apps in vr but they didnt need a metaverse to make them useful.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 30,268
    Andy_JS said:

    The Metaverse sounds like a horrible idea. Real dystopian stuff.

    Read Snow Crash - where the name was invented.

    Perhaps someone will listen to Reason….
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 19,625
    IanB2 said:

    Pagan2 said:

    ohnotnow said:

    Ishmael_Z said:

    Metaverse will catch on eventually as will 3D cinema and flying cars. Compare Zoom. Sci-fi from the 1950s on is full of videophones, but when they arrived with facetime they turned out to be a bit shit. Then covid and boom. There's no reason to suppose it will catch on before Facebook runs out of money though,, and what will catch on will be a leaner meaner iteration untainted by Facebooks fuddy duddy baggage.

    There was an article on the BBC the other day listing eye-watering amounts of cash being spent 'in the metaverse' (not necessarily the FB one). I don't think I've even met anyone who's met anyone who's used it - so it was kinda suprising.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-63488059
    I really dont understand this article....just read it and can't see it is any different from second life which launched 20 years ago....except for the fact the graphics are shittier than second life. Second life is also got all the things it lists....own world currency which you can convert back to rl currency etc...ability to make and sell things. Whoever wrote this seems to think these "metaversi" are conceptually new
    The ideas are things like history lessons including pupils being immersed in historical situations, or surgeons practicing operations in the metaverse before being let loose on real patients. Whether these will become the norm, I don't know, but it's this type of stuff that has got Meta so worked up

    Isn't that what 'Operation' is for?
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 19,625

    "If you believe in insurrection, I'm not your candidate"


    TrumpsTaxes
    @TrumpsTaxes
    ·
    Oct 31

    This closing ad for Elaine Luria - in one #VA02, one of the closest House races in the country - is perfect.

    https://twitter.com/TrumpsTaxes/status/1587083909971451904

    If you don't believe in insurrection, I struggle to see how you can support the USA.
  • Pagan2Pagan2 Posts: 5,427

    Andy_JS said:

    The Metaverse sounds like a horrible idea. Real dystopian stuff.

    Read Snow Crash - where the name was invented.

    Perhaps someone will listen to Reason….
    In Snow crash the real world was the dystopia though just as much if not more so.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 30,268

    Talk of Metaverse etc. has got me thinking of the 80+ generation, many of who are excluded from the online world.

    Yes, I know there are numerous 80-somethings who are fully PC/Smartphone/Internet literate but the majority aren't. Mostly their initial 'can't see the point' attitude has now morphed into 'I wish I could but I'm too old to learn now'.

    So, I'm in my early 60s, what am I about to miss out on because the technology looks too daunting to get involved in?

    None of these things requires any actual skills.

    It’s about attitude - if you live only in your comfort zone, then everything new is impossible.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 48,486

    Andy_JS said:

    The Metaverse sounds like a horrible idea. Real dystopian stuff.

    Read Snow Crash - where the name was invented.

    Perhaps someone will listen to Reason….
    The entire book is set in my part of LA.

    I've read it half a dozen times:
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 48,197
    kinabalu said:

    Yes, the 1.1 for the Crazies taking the House looks free money sadly.

    This is my big bet at the moment.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 41,913
    edited November 5
    On topic: a long piece of US predictions from Andrew Neil, one that might be worth returning to next week to see how he did!

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-11392027/ANDREW-NEIL-Republicans-poised-victory-midterms-huge-political-crisis-beckons.html

    His key prediction is that the Senate will indeed fall to Republican control, with victory in Nevada, and perhaps a few governorships in places as previously Democrat as Oregon. He also highlights a few of the terrible candidates on both sides, for whom the result will be against the expected national swing.

    Also that both parties don’t have a clue who to run for the top job, in two years’ time.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 48,197
    Carnyx said:

    Just about to watch the final part of SAS Rogue Heroes - thoroughly enjoyable. You can tell it is the Peeky Blinders team when The Damned is the soundtrack to a raid on an airfield!

    Bit too much of a modernist take for me - too many fucks and metal music.
    Too many fucks in an Army context is modern?
    I'm under no illusions the squaddies have always been like that.

    I struggle with General Auckinleck and Ritchie competing to see how hard they can tell David Stirling to fuck off, or a trooper on sentry duty telling Stirling (an officer) to fuck off because he tried to play the class card.

    Just wasn't like that back then.
  • Pagan2Pagan2 Posts: 5,427
    rcs1000 said:

    Andy_JS said:

    The Metaverse sounds like a horrible idea. Real dystopian stuff.

    Read Snow Crash - where the name was invented.

    Perhaps someone will listen to Reason….
    The entire book is set in my part of LA.

    I've read it half a dozen times:
    I preferred ready player one (the book) and I think it highlights one thing well which we already saw in second life....real life corps trying to get in on it to make a buck without caring about the people using the world. SL is much better for them mostly having left.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 47,047

    Just about to watch the final part of SAS Rogue Heroes - thoroughly enjoyable. You can tell it is the Peeky Blinders team when The Damned is the soundtrack to a raid on an airfield!

    Bit too much of a modernist take for me - too many fucks and metal music.
    I'm sure the effin' and jeffin' language was near enough authentic.

    Loved the anachronistic soundtrack on Blinders. Love it here too.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 48,197
    Dura_Ace said:

    Carnyx said:


    Too many fucks in an Army context is modern?

    My paternal grandfather fought in WW2 and every other word out of his mouth was 'fuck'. The other was 'c*nt'.
    My paternal grandfather fought as a Lt. Colonel in the 8th Army with Monty in the desert as part of REME.

    He'd be shocked by it.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 48,197

    Just about to watch the final part of SAS Rogue Heroes - thoroughly enjoyable. You can tell it is the Peeky Blinders team when The Damned is the soundtrack to a raid on an airfield!

    Bit too much of a modernist take for me - too many fucks and metal music.
    I'm sure the effin' and jeffin' language was near enough authentic.

    Loved the anachronistic soundtrack on Blinders. Love it here too.
    Not my taste, I'm afraid.

    It's also lazy writing. I always question it when screenwriters through a few "fucks" in to jazz it up and get the laughs.

    I expect the book is better and have asked for that for Christmas.
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 17,712
    Leon said:

    The Welsh anthem remains the best in the world

    It would be nice if England actually had one.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 47,047
    kle4 said:

    Leon said:

    The Welsh anthem remains the best in the world

    I have a secret admiration for the French.
    Some secrets should stay so.
  • Ishmael_ZIshmael_Z Posts: 8,981

    Dura_Ace said:

    Carnyx said:


    Too many fucks in an Army context is modern?

    My paternal grandfather fought in WW2 and every other word out of his mouth was 'fuck'. The other was 'c*nt'.
    My paternal grandfather fought as a Lt. Colonel in the 8th Army with Monty in the desert as part of REME.

    He'd be shocked by it.
    You do realise (it took me ages to) that in ww2 fiction by the likes of CS Forester when characters say "bucking" or "mucking" it's a euphemism?
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 32,303
    Gosh, the new leader of the French Far Right is only 27 years old! How can you acquire the emotional maturity and empathy for ordinary people that's needed to lead the Far Right at such a tender age?
  • Ishmael_ZIshmael_Z Posts: 8,981
    rcs1000 said:

    Andy_JS said:

    The Metaverse sounds like a horrible idea. Real dystopian stuff.

    Read Snow Crash - where the name was invented.

    Perhaps someone will listen to Reason….
    The entire book is set in my part of LA.

    I've read it half a dozen times:
    Doesn't hold a candle to Gibson's Sprawl books.
  • Richard_TyndallRichard_Tyndall Posts: 27,631

    Voting here in Washington state: I just filled out my ballot, and thought some of you might be interested in the wide range of votes we have to decide on. The ballot began with two "advisory votes", allowing voters to check actions of the state legislature, the first on an increased tax on aviation fuel and the second on requiring "transportation companies" to pay workers compensation premiums.

    Then, KIng County asked me for my vote on a "charter amendment", changing the elections for some offices from odd numbered to even numbered years. The county also asked me to approve of an additional property tax to pay for "open spaces".

    Next came a vote on the subject of the header, a choice between Democrat Patty Murray and Republican Tiffany Smiley. (I wrote in the name of a prominent Republican.) For the House seat in Congressional district 1, I had a choice between a law-and-order Republican and the incumbent Democrat, Susan DelBene.

    In the special election for Secretary of State, I chose the nonpartisan, Julie Anderson, over the Democrat, Steve Hobbs. (That was the only close decision, for me.)

    I voted for the Republican in the state senate seat, Michelle Darnell over the incumbent, Demcrat Patty Kuderer. There were two lower house seats in the legislature, where Democrats were running unopposed.

    Then there were 12 judicial races. In only one of them was there a choice.

    Washington state asks a lot of its voters.

    I think this is great. A bit of direct democracy.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 48,197

    Voting here in Washington state: I just filled out my ballot, and thought some of you might be interested in the wide range of votes we have to decide on. The ballot began with two "advisory votes", allowing voters to check actions of the state legislature, the first on an increased tax on aviation fuel and the second on requiring "transportation companies" to pay workers compensation premiums.

    Then, KIng County asked me for my vote on a "charter amendment", changing the elections for some offices from odd numbered to even numbered years. The county also asked me to approve of an additional property tax to pay for "open spaces".

    Next came a vote on the subject of the header, a choice between Democrat Patty Murray and Republican Tiffany Smiley. (I wrote in the name of a prominent Republican.) For the House seat in Congressional district 1, I had a choice between a law-and-order Republican and the incumbent Democrat, Susan DelBene.

    In the special election for Secretary of State, I chose the nonpartisan, Julie Anderson, over the Democrat, Steve Hobbs. (That was the only close decision, for me.)

    I voted for the Republican in the state senate seat, Michelle Darnell over the incumbent, Demcrat Patty Kuderer. There were two lower house seats in the legislature, where Democrats were running unopposed.

    Then there were 12 judicial races. In only one of them was there a choice.

    Washington state asks a lot of its voters.

    What are your predictions nationwide, Jim?
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 48,486
    Ishmael_Z said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Andy_JS said:

    The Metaverse sounds like a horrible idea. Real dystopian stuff.

    Read Snow Crash - where the name was invented.

    Perhaps someone will listen to Reason….
    The entire book is set in my part of LA.

    I've read it half a dozen times:
    Doesn't hold a candle to Gibson's Sprawl books.
    I've read, and enjoyed Gibson.

    But I'm afraid to say that on this, I disagree with you. Stephenson's characters are better drawn, his worldview a little more engaging.

    Of course, he can't write an ending for toffee (see The Diamond Age for the worst example of this), but I still pickup his books more often than Gibson
  • kle4 said:

    Leon said:

    The Welsh anthem remains the best in the world

    I have a secret admiration for the French [anthem]
    Same.

    We have that bloody dirge God Save The King.

    La Marseillaise Is the only time I envy the French.

    It’s why I sing Ou Est La Papier so loud when La Marseillaise is sung.
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 35,365
    edited November 5
    Dura_Ace said:

    Carnyx said:


    Too many fucks in an Army context is modern?

    My paternal grandfather fought in WW2 and every other word out of his mouth was 'fuck'. The other was 'c*nt'.
    Oddly variations on both those words escaped my mouth when that SAS bollocks popped up with a shit version of No More Heroes attached.
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 17,712

    kle4 said:

    Leon said:

    The Welsh anthem remains the best in the world

    I have a secret admiration for the French.
    Mods??
    and Rockers?
  • MoonRabbitMoonRabbit Posts: 8,571
    Carnyx said:

    Just about to watch the final part of SAS Rogue Heroes - thoroughly enjoyable. You can tell it is the Peeky Blinders team when The Damned is the soundtrack to a raid on an airfield!

    Bit too much of a modernist take for me - too many fucks and metal music.
    Too many fucks in an Army context is modern?
    Peaky Blinders started out with small budget like this.

    Rouge Heroes is drippin. Would benefit from the extra budget in places.
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