The tectonic plates appear to be shifting – politicalbetting.com
Perhaps the most significant bit of today – Rishi getting public backing from the Right of the Tory party. Lord FrostKemi BadenochDavid DavisNeeded to back up his ‘unity’ pitchNow… all eyes on Suella Braverman
seen as we have HYUFD on , OT but i am hosting a murder mystery halloween party next weekend and playing Lurch the Butler with other guests being Mortician adams. Gomex Adams ,Dracula, bride of Dracula , Poison Ivy (?) , Cruella de ville ,Frankenstein etc ! Any tips for acting in character ?
I think Sunak's supporters are plentiful, and very positive about him. And I like to think that Johnson will be humiliated (Of course he is incapable of feeling shame, so no-one will need to feel sorry for him.)
Sunak to be Tory leader by coronation by Monday night like Howard 2003 and PM by coronation by Tuesday night like Brown 2007
Then the polls close a bit and once we get the first lead under 15 Labour twitter goes into hyperventilating meltdown
Seriously?
It would be astonishing if there wasn't a substantial step forward for the Conservatives but going from 15% to 25% isn't exactly an election-winning position, is it?
As it seems I have to repeat to you and some of the others on here, the one thing you won't be seeing from Labour, the LDs or any other non-Conservative party is complacency. They know every vote has to be won and nothing can be assumed.
35 point poll leads are nice to look at but totally meaningless.
I suspect Labour are well prepared for a Sunak administration and have their attack lines ready. I also think they'll be much happier facing Sunak than Johnson - let's face it, in Sunak and Starmer there's not much charisma. It would be ideal for a Farage or Johnson to be leading a breakaway conservative movement.
This is a great thread by @TSE although not I suspect the Mordaunt bit.
I reckon the 235 to 120 could be very close to the final tally. Under those circumstances it's inconceivable that Johnson could lead his party in parliament. The real trouble would come if he still wanted the members to decide ... and won. Then we're in chaos-multiplied.
Well maybe but news moves on fast. I won't re-hash the fish n' chip analogy but I'm not sure a week, a month, a year from now this will look particularly favourable for Johnson.
I loathe him, I'll admit, and it will amuse me if his mad dash across the Atlantic, followed by mega-ramp, is all to show that he is no longer the big fish he thought he was. Except when wrapped in newspaper.
I expect polling to return to the status Truss ante under Sunak.
I think it gets under 20 lead but higher than pre Truss as permanent damage has been done. 10 will be low end/opinium with the average mid high teens imo
seen as we have HYUFD on , OT but i am hosting a murder mystery halloween party next weekend and playing Lurch the Butler with other guests being Mortician adams. Gomex Adams ,Dracula, bride of Dracula , Poison Ivy (?) , Cruella de ville ,Frankenstein etc ! Any tips for acting in character ?
Just follow some politicians, May would make an excellent Morticia, Mandelson Dracula, Priti Patel Cruella de Ville, Braverman Poison Ivy, Raab Frankenstein etc
If Sunak does become Prime Minister I'm really looking forward to the lefties moaning that Sunak really doesn't count as an ethnic minority.
Wrong type of darkie/superficially brown.
I think the Labour MP's underlying point was that if BUT ONLY IF you're of a certain social class (and wear expensive clothes and sound a certain way), then it doesn't matter much whether you're black or brown. The point was badly stated, and it was right that she was reprimanded by her Party for saying what she did.
I expect polling to return to the status Truss ante under Sunak.
I think it gets under 20 lead but higher than pre Truss as permanent damage has been done. 10 will be low end/opinium with the average mid high teens imo
Having said that JL Partners...... Voting intentions conducted by @JLPartnersPolls for Labour against every possible Tory leader…
Current: 🌹LAB: 51% 🌳CON: 25%
Johnson: 🌹LAB: 46% 🌳CON: 36%
Sunak: 🌹LAB: 46% 🌳CON: 35%
Mordaunt: 🌹LAB: 50% 🌳CON: 28% (Caveat in that she’s widely unknown)
If Sunak does become Prime Minister I'm really looking forward to the lefties moaning that Sunak really doesn't count as an ethnic minority.
Wrong type of darkie/superficially brown.
NYT readers are going to be extremely confused that the racist UK led by the racist Tory party have elected Sunak....
I've already written the PB thread if Sunak becomes PM.
'Enoch Powell was right, the darkies do now have the whip hand over white British people.'
Why are you going on about race like this? I don't know anyone in my circles that would speak about things in these terms, let alone think them, except my friend who is a card carrying member of the Conservative Party.
seen as we have HYUFD on , OT but i am hosting a murder mystery halloween party next weekend and playing Lurch the Butler with other guests being Mortician adams. Gomex Adams ,Dracula, bride of Dracula , Poison Ivy (?) , Cruella de ville ,Frankenstein etc ! Any tips for acting in character ?
Just follow some politicians, May would make an excellent Morticia, Mandelson Dracula, Priti Patel Cruella de Ville, Braverman Poison Ivy, Raab Frankenstein etc
I expect polling to return to the status Truss ante under Sunak.
I think it gets under 20 lead but higher than pre Truss as permanent damage has been done. 10 will be low end/opinium with the average mid high teens imo
Having said that JL Partners...... Voting intentions conducted by @JLPartnersPolls for Labour against every possible Tory leader…
Current: 🌹LAB: 51% 🌳CON: 25%
Johnson: 🌹LAB: 46% 🌳CON: 36%
Sunak: 🌹LAB: 46% 🌳CON: 35%
Mordaunt: 🌹LAB: 50% 🌳CON: 28% (Caveat in that she’s widely unknown)
10-11 points down would be a remarkable turn around (not sure i believe it).
If Sunak does become Prime Minister I'm really looking forward to the lefties moaning that Sunak really doesn't count as an ethnic minority.
Wrong type of darkie/superficially brown.
I'm a Labour voter, typical leftie, and I would like to acknowledge the fantastic contribution that the Indian community has made to this country. My home town (Tywyn) has a current library exhibition of the arrival of Ugandan Asian refugees to the disused Army Camp 30 years ago. I remember the collections of warm clothes and meeting the kids my age - I was about 5. Eventually most were rehoused in Leicester and remade their fortunes. One of a few things to thank Ted Heath for. It did him no favours.
I expect polling to return to the status Truss ante under Sunak.
I think it gets under 20 lead but higher than pre Truss as permanent damage has been done. 10 will be low end/opinium with the average mid high teens imo
Having said that JL Partners...... Voting intentions conducted by @JLPartnersPolls for Labour against every possible Tory leader…
Current: 🌹LAB: 51% 🌳CON: 25%
Johnson: 🌹LAB: 46% 🌳CON: 36%
Sunak: 🌹LAB: 46% 🌳CON: 35%
Mordaunt: 🌹LAB: 50% 🌳CON: 28% (Caveat in that she’s widely unknown)
So Boris does fractionally better than Rishi there then, though both do miles better against Labour than Truss does or Mordaunt would
It's possible the Truss interregnum will have done the Tories a favour in the long run by lessening the charge of betrayal against Sunak as well as subduing the people who weren't happy with his fiscal approach. He stands a better chance of uniting the party now than he would have done if he'd won the first time around.
Well maybe but news moves on fast. I won't re-hash the fish n' chip analogy but I'm not sure a week, a month, a year from now this will look particularly favourable for Johnson.
I loathe him, I'll admit, and it will amuse me if his mad dash across the Atlantic, followed by mega-ramp, is all to show that he is no longer the big fish he thought he was. Except when wrapped in newspaper.
None of which really matters if you have something of a pathological need for attention. Long term strategy really isn’t his thing.
If Sunak does become Prime Minister I'm really looking forward to the lefties moaning that Sunak really doesn't count as an ethnic minority.
Wrong type of darkie/superficially brown.
NYT readers are going to be extremely confused that the racist UK led by the racist Tory party have elected Sunak....
I've already written the PB thread if Sunak becomes PM.
'Enoch Powell was right, the darkies do now have the whip hand over white British people.'
Why are you going on about race like this? I don't know anyone in my circles that would speak about things in these terms, let alone think them, except my friend who is a card carrying member of the Conservative Party.
You have got think and speak back to front, and a logical disconnect between what TSE writes vs what your "circles" have to say about it.
I actually think it is a hugely positive thing that a non-white or a woman being elected to some of the highest offices in the land doesn't actually really get much press focusing upon that these days.
Team twat, i mean Truss, being a woman, a black guy etc, the issue was their policies not their gender or race.
I actually think it is a hugely positive thing that a non-white or a woman being elected to some of the highest offices in the land doesn't actually really get much press focusing upon that these days.
Quite
Until I saw TSE's comment I hadn't even considered the matter.
FYI (also btw) believe that a contender - up until this week anyway - for shortest interval between fall and rise of a Prime Minister, is William Lyon Mackenzie King (Liberal) of Canada.
Who was forced from office (under at least one interpretation) on June 28, 1926. And was back as PM (after constitutional crisis between WLMK and Gov. Gen Byng) on September 25, 1926.
By way of contrast, when incumbent Liberal PM Pierre Trudeau left office on June 4, 1979 it took him until March 3, 1980 to get back in.
I actually think it is a hugely positive thing that a non-white or a woman being elected to some of the highest offices in the land doesn't actually really get much press focusing upon that these days.
I'm in a few Tory association WhatsApp groups, some Red Wall.
All the bile raised towards Sunak is all to do with the betrayal of Boris Johnson, not his skin colour.
We had four non white people in a row as Chancellor, skin colour hardly mentioned, all the focus was on policies.
If Sunak does become Prime Minister I'm really looking forward to the lefties moaning that Sunak really doesn't count as an ethnic minority.
Wrong type of darkie/superficially brown.
Will he get the all important Rupa Huq seal of authenticity?
I would have thought she'd hate him given he's a Hindu.
Wouldn't that make him also the first PM to avow a religion other than Christianity?
Indeed but Sunak went to Winchester, founded by the Bishop of Winchester and is more of a traditional Tory in background than Truss was
To be a little more specific, it was founded by the 48th Bishop of Winchester. Not by Tim Dakin or whoever his successor is now he's been fired.
There are 47 known BoWs before Willie Wykeham? Are you sure?
No, because it's very uncertain whether some of them were Bishop or not, and also whether you count the bishops of Dorchester. But it had been going for over 700 years at that point, so it was at around the halfway stage of its existence. 47 doesn't seem far out.
Jolyon Maugham thinks that only lawyers have access to the "cultural elite".
@JolyonMaugham If you haven't practiced law you won't have heard the alienating language of the cultural elites - of clubs and school ties, of Classics and Greats, of Opera and Rugby. It is used, sometimes quite deliberately, by some judges to alienate those from the 'wrong' side of the tracks.
I expect polling to return to the status Truss ante under Sunak.
I think it gets under 20 lead but higher than pre Truss as permanent damage has been done. 10 will be low end/opinium with the average mid high teens imo
Having said that JL Partners...... Voting intentions conducted by @JLPartnersPolls for Labour against every possible Tory leader…
Current: 🌹LAB: 51% 🌳CON: 25%
Johnson: 🌹LAB: 46% 🌳CON: 36%
Sunak: 🌹LAB: 46% 🌳CON: 35%
Mordaunt: 🌹LAB: 50% 🌳CON: 28% (Caveat in that she’s widely unknown)
So Boris does fractionally better than Rishi there then, though both do miles better against Labour than Truss does or Mordaunt would
If the Tories manage 35 and certainly 36 in a GE i see no chance of a Lab Majority
If Sunak does become Prime Minister I'm really looking forward to the lefties moaning that Sunak really doesn't count as an ethnic minority.
Wrong type of darkie/superficially brown.
NYT readers are going to be extremely confused that the racist UK led by the racist Tory party have elected Sunak....
I've already written the PB thread if Sunak becomes PM.
'Enoch Powell was right, the darkies do now have the whip hand over white British people.'
I will be immensely proud if the conservative party elect Sunak as their leader and first Asian PM
Sure, although you’ve been castigating them as a pack of lunatics all week.
I have not been castigating Sunak and I do not use the word lunatic, not least because of its connotation with mental health which my family have suffered from
I openly admit to condemning Truss and the conservative party for the mess they have made over the last 6 weeks and before but not in the way you describe
If Sunak does become Prime Minister I'm really looking forward to the lefties moaning that Sunak really doesn't count as an ethnic minority.
Wrong type of darkie/superficially brown.
NYT readers are going to be extremely confused that the racist UK led by the racist Tory party have elected Sunak....
I've already written the PB thread if Sunak becomes PM.
'Enoch Powell was right, the darkies do now have the whip hand over white British people.'
Why are you going on about race like this? I don't know anyone in my circles that would speak about things in these terms, let alone think them, except my friend who is a card carrying member of the Conservative Party.
You have got think and speak back to front
Yes you're probably right although I liked putting it that way around for ontological reasons.
I actually think it is a hugely positive thing that a non-white or a woman being elected to some of the highest offices in the land doesn't actually really get much press focusing upon that these days.
I'm in a few Tory association WhatsApp groups, some Red Wall.
All the bile raised towards Sunak is all to do with the betrayal of Boris Johnson, not his skin colour.
We had four non white people in a row as Chancellor, skin colour hardly mentioned, all the focus was on policies.
You would know better than me TSE but are you sure what they're saying matches what they're thinking?
It's possible the Truss interregnum will have done the Tories a favour in the long run by lessening the charge of betrayal against Sunak as well as subduing the people who weren't happy with his fiscal approach. He stands a better chance of uniting the party now than he would have done if he'd won the first time around.
Not sure how it lessens the charge of betrayal. He and his unsavoury parliamentary fanbase have now sabotaged two Prime Ministers in their avowed cause of 'stabilising the markets'.
Jolyon Maugham thinks that only lawyers have access to the "cultural elite".
@JolyonMaugham If you haven't practiced law you won't have heard the alienating language of the cultural elites - of clubs and school ties, of Classics and Greats, of Opera and Rugby. It is used, sometimes quite deliberately, by some judges to alienate those from the 'wrong' side of the tracks.
Jolyon seems the like of person who has told me that I've never experienced racism because I was privately educated, the son of a doctor, and earn decent money.
If Sunak does become Prime Minister I'm really looking forward to the lefties moaning that Sunak really doesn't count as an ethnic minority.
Wrong type of darkie/superficially brown.
Will he get the all important Rupa Huq seal of authenticity?
I would have thought she'd hate him given he's a Hindu.
Wouldn't that make him also the first PM to avow a religion other than Christianity?
Indeed but Sunak went to Winchester, founded by the Bishop of Winchester and is more of a traditional Tory in background than Truss was
To be a little more specific, it was founded by the 48th Bishop of Winchester. Not by Tim Dakin or whoever his successor is now he's been fired.
There are 47 known BoWs before Willie Wykeham? Are you sure?
No, because it's very uncertain whether some of them were Bishop or not, and also whether you count the bishops of Dorchester. But it had been going for over 700 years at that point, so it was at around the halfway stage of its existence. 47 doesn't seem far out.
I actually think it is a hugely positive thing that a non-white or a woman being elected to some of the highest offices in the land doesn't actually really get much press focusing upon that these days.
I'm in a few Tory association WhatsApp groups, some Red Wall.
All the bile raised towards Sunak is all to do with the betrayal of Boris Johnson, not his skin colour.
We had four non white people in a row as Chancellor, skin colour hardly mentioned, all the focus was on policies.
I couldn't give a toss about his skin colour.
I support Sunak because he's by far the best candidate.
Jolyon Maugham thinks that only lawyers have access to the "cultural elite".
@JolyonMaugham If you haven't practiced law you won't have heard the alienating language of the cultural elites - of clubs and school ties, of Classics and Greats, of Opera and Rugby. It is used, sometimes quite deliberately, by some judges to alienate those from the 'wrong' side of the tracks.
Technically speaking, Sunak is also a law breaker.
And also locked down and spent tens of billions he didn't have and taxed Tory core voters. In fact Sunak's strict advantages over Johnson boil down to the fact that he wasn't in charge, which isn't a great deal different from Truss.
I expect polling to return to the status Truss ante under Sunak.
I think it gets under 20 lead but higher than pre Truss as permanent damage has been done. 10 will be low end/opinium with the average mid high teens imo
Having said that JL Partners...... Voting intentions conducted by @JLPartnersPolls for Labour against every possible Tory leader…
Current: 🌹LAB: 51% 🌳CON: 25%
Johnson: 🌹LAB: 46% 🌳CON: 36%
Sunak: 🌹LAB: 46% 🌳CON: 35%
Mordaunt: 🌹LAB: 50% 🌳CON: 28% (Caveat in that she’s widely unknown)
So Boris does fractionally better than Rishi there then, though both do miles better against Labour than Truss does or Mordaunt would
If the Tories manage 35 and certainly 36 in a GE i see no chance of a Lab Majority
The Tories polled a fair bit higher than that in both 1945 and 1966!
I expect polling to return to the status Truss ante under Sunak.
I think it gets under 20 lead but higher than pre Truss as permanent damage has been done. 10 will be low end/opinium with the average mid high teens imo
Having said that JL Partners...... Voting intentions conducted by @JLPartnersPolls for Labour against every possible Tory leader…
Current: 🌹LAB: 51% 🌳CON: 25%
Johnson: 🌹LAB: 46% 🌳CON: 36%
Sunak: 🌹LAB: 46% 🌳CON: 35%
Mordaunt: 🌹LAB: 50% 🌳CON: 28% (Caveat in that she’s widely unknown)
I actually think it is a hugely positive thing that a non-white or a woman being elected to some of the highest offices in the land doesn't actually really get much press focusing upon that these days.
I'm in a few Tory association WhatsApp groups, some Red Wall.
All the bile raised towards Sunak is all to do with the betrayal of Boris Johnson, not his skin colour.
We had four non white people in a row as Chancellor, skin colour hardly mentioned, all the focus was on policies.
You would know better than me TSE but are you sure what they're saying matches what they're thinking?
These are the same people who moaned about lefty Remoaner Jeremy Hunt becoming Chancellor and praise Kemi Badenoch and want her to be PM.
Jolyon Maugham thinks that only lawyers have access to the "cultural elite".
@JolyonMaugham If you haven't practiced law you won't have heard the alienating language of the cultural elites - of clubs and school ties, of Classics and Greats, of Opera and Rugby. It is used, sometimes quite deliberately, by some judges to alienate those from the 'wrong' side of the tracks.
Jolyon seems the like of person who has told me that I've never experienced racism because I was privately educated, the son of a doctor, and earn decent money.
That reminds me that he also made a racist comment to Rishi Sunak.
Jolyon Maugham thinks that only lawyers have access to the "cultural elite".
@JolyonMaugham If you haven't practiced law you won't have heard the alienating language of the cultural elites - of clubs and school ties, of Classics and Greats, of Opera and Rugby. It is used, sometimes quite deliberately, by some judges to alienate those from the 'wrong' side of the tracks.
I actually think it is a hugely positive thing that a non-white or a woman being elected to some of the highest offices in the land doesn't actually really get much press focusing upon that these days.
I'm in a few Tory association WhatsApp groups, some Red Wall.
All the bile raised towards Sunak is all to do with the betrayal of Boris Johnson, not his skin colour.
We had four non white people in a row as Chancellor, skin colour hardly mentioned, all the focus was on policies.
It's possible the Truss interregnum will have done the Tories a favour in the long run by lessening the charge of betrayal against Sunak as well as subduing the people who weren't happy with his fiscal approach. He stands a better chance of uniting the party now than he would have done if he'd won the first time around.
Not sure how it lessens the charge of betrayal. He and his unsavoury parliamentary fanbase have now sabotaged two Prime Ministers in their avowed cause of 'stabilising the markets'.
Point of order - the last two prime ministers entirely sabotaged themselves with absolutely no other help whatever
I actually think it is a hugely positive thing that a non-white or a woman being elected to some of the highest offices in the land doesn't actually really get much press focusing upon that these days.
I'm in a few Tory association WhatsApp groups, some Red Wall.
All the bile raised towards Sunak is all to do with the betrayal of Boris Johnson, not his skin colour.
We had four non white people in a row as Chancellor, skin colour hardly mentioned, all the focus was on policies.
I couldn't give a toss about his skin colour.
I support Sunak because he's by far the best candidate.
We need to get beyond this.
It's like when I got married to an English native, it was like whatever.
If Sunak does become Prime Minister I'm really looking forward to the lefties moaning that Sunak really doesn't count as an ethnic minority.
Wrong type of darkie/superficially brown.
NYT readers are going to be extremely confused that the racist UK led by the racist Tory party have elected Sunak....
I've already written the PB thread if Sunak becomes PM.
'Enoch Powell was right, the darkies do now have the whip hand over white British people.'
Why are you going on about race like this? I don't know anyone in my circles that would speak about things in these terms, let alone think them, except my friend who is a card carrying member of the Conservative Party.
You have got think and speak back to front
Yes you're probably right although I liked putting it that way around for ontological reasons.
I actually think it is a hugely positive thing that a non-white or a woman being elected to some of the highest offices in the land doesn't actually really get much press focusing upon that these days.
I'm in a few Tory association WhatsApp groups, some Red Wall.
All the bile raised towards Sunak is all to do with the betrayal of Boris Johnson, not his skin colour.
We had four non white people in a row as Chancellor, skin colour hardly mentioned, all the focus was on policies.
I couldn't give a toss about his skin colour.
I support Sunak because he's by far the best candidate.
We need to get beyond this.
You mean the least worst candidate.
You equivocated during the last contest, quite rightly, because Rishi is significantly flawed.
Nevertheless we must wish him well, and to come to power for Diwali is surely auspicious.
I expect polling to return to the status Truss ante under Sunak.
I think it gets under 20 lead but higher than pre Truss as permanent damage has been done. 10 will be low end/opinium with the average mid high teens imo
Having said that JL Partners...... Voting intentions conducted by @JLPartnersPolls for Labour against every possible Tory leader…
Current: 🌹LAB: 51% 🌳CON: 25%
Johnson: 🌹LAB: 46% 🌳CON: 36%
Sunak: 🌹LAB: 46% 🌳CON: 35%
Mordaunt: 🌹LAB: 50% 🌳CON: 28% (Caveat in that she’s widely unknown)
Hypothetical polling is garbage.
It wasn't for Johnson in 2019 or for Major in 1990 or indeed for Blair in 1994
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Some Tory donors being told Boris will not run.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/oct/22/boris-johnson-ambition-tory-party-prime-minister
No need to drag it out any longer than necessary
Wrong type of darkie/superficially brown.
Bollocks.
He is already yesterday’s fish and chip wrapper - a failure to get the nominations shows that - and the country will be all the better for it.
So I wouldn’t be shocked . I’m confident though that Starmer will beat Sunak at the next GE.
Wouldn't that make him also the first PM to avow a religion other than Christianity?
The concern of a Corbynite for the sinister racist secret at the heart of another party is fucking touching, it really is.
It would be astonishing if there wasn't a substantial step forward for the Conservatives but going from 15% to 25% isn't exactly an election-winning position, is it?
As it seems I have to repeat to you and some of the others on here, the one thing you won't be seeing from Labour, the LDs or any other non-Conservative party is complacency. They know every vote has to be won and nothing can be assumed.
35 point poll leads are nice to look at but totally meaningless.
I suspect Labour are well prepared for a Sunak administration and have their attack lines ready. I also think they'll be much happier facing Sunak than Johnson - let's face it, in Sunak and Starmer there's not much charisma. It would be ideal for a Farage or Johnson to be leading a breakaway conservative movement.
I reckon the 235 to 120 could be very close to the final tally. Under those circumstances it's inconceivable that Johnson could lead his party in parliament. The real trouble would come if he still wanted the members to decide ... and won. Then we're in chaos-multiplied.
Paul Staines is a nasty piece of work, frankly.
'Enoch Powell was right, the darkies do now have the whip hand over white British people.'
I loathe him, I'll admit, and it will amuse me if his mad dash across the Atlantic, followed by mega-ramp, is all to show that he is no longer the big fish he thought he was. Except when wrapped in newspaper.
The fear of absolute carnage if the members vote for him pushes some of his support to jump ship in the next vote .
The point was badly stated, and it was right that she was reprimanded by her Party for saying what she did.
Voting intentions conducted by @JLPartnersPolls for Labour against every possible Tory leader…
Current:
🌹LAB: 51%
🌳CON: 25%
Johnson:
🌹LAB: 46%
🌳CON: 36%
Sunak:
🌹LAB: 46%
🌳CON: 35%
Mordaunt:
🌹LAB: 50%
🌳CON: 28%
(Caveat in that she’s widely unknown)
Not like Truss btw. Mps didnt have a chance to show loyalty before she torched the economy.
Rishi won't get much of a bounce. But he might slowly claw back some credibility and so limit losses at the next GE.
Labour can only get the first openly LGBT PM now, maybe Streeting
Long term strategy really isn’t his thing.
Team twat, i mean Truss, being a woman, a black guy etc, the issue was their policies not their gender or race.
Until I saw TSE's comment I hadn't even considered the matter.
Who was forced from office (under at least one interpretation) on June 28, 1926. And was back as PM (after constitutional crisis between WLMK and Gov. Gen Byng) on September 25, 1926.
By way of contrast, when incumbent Liberal PM Pierre Trudeau left office on June 4, 1979 it took him until March 3, 1980 to get back in.
Unless he can get to the 100 without them then the anonymous are worth zip at this stage .
All the bile raised towards Sunak is all to do with the betrayal of Boris Johnson, not his skin colour.
We had four non white people in a row as Chancellor, skin colour hardly mentioned, all the focus was on policies.
RIP Tories!
@JolyonMaugham
If you haven't practiced law you won't have heard the alienating language of the cultural elites - of clubs and school ties, of Classics and Greats, of Opera and Rugby. It is used, sometimes quite deliberately, by some judges to alienate those from the 'wrong' side of the tracks.
https://twitter.com/JolyonMaugham/status/1583770349279186944
I openly admit to condemning Truss and the conservative party for the mess they have made over the last 6 weeks and before but not in the way you describe
On the subject of grammar, it has been bugging me for hours. Shouldn't Guido's spreadsheet be 'Who's backing whom?'
https://order-order.com/2022/10/21/whos-backing-who-the-spreadsheet-returns/
Dorchester Dorset or Dorchester Oxon?
I support Sunak because he's by far the best candidate.
We need to get beyond this.
I'm worried that the Daily Star will try and measure his premiership live against some sumac.
pure coincidence I know.
For the avoidance of doubt i am not accusing you of being a racist
You equivocated during the last contest, quite rightly, because Rishi is significantly flawed.
Nevertheless we must wish him well, and to come to power for Diwali is surely auspicious.