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  • CookieCookie Posts: 13,803
    nico679 said:

    Must be awful to have achieved your ambition to be PM and then to crash and burn 6 weeks later.

    Yes, agreed.
    All of us fail from time to time. But few so spectacularly or so publicly. I feel the same slight sickness on her behalf that I did see Gordon Brown's world come crashing down around him with bigoted-woman-gate.
  • Sounds like they've at least tried to arrange some sort of orderly transition. Like Robert Baratheon, at least they'll say she did this right, this one thing...
  • Question, why do we think Sunak is a fair bit shorter than Mordaunt in the next PM market? Given that we are always being told there is a big chunk of the party very much against him while that isn't the case with Penny?

    Thanks
  • CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 60,216
    R4 WATO Truss Downing St statement 1.30
  • FlatlanderFlatlander Posts: 4,668

    Off-topic:

    Re. the potential cable-cutting. It can be argued that one of the first acts Britain committed during World War One won the war (eventually). Within the first few weeks of the war, we cut all but one of Germany's marine cables (and we had access to that one).

    This severely hampered German international communications throughout the war, and aided our signals intelligence. Then in 1917 it allowed the infamous Zimmerman Telegram to be intercepted, which helped bring the US into the war.

    Cutting cables nowadays would not have the same effect; but it may prove absolutely awful for trade.

    Good for Elon Musk though...

    What state is OneWeb in at the moment?
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 10,061

    KGM taken off air for a week

    KGM?
    Krishnan 'Potty mouth' Guru Murphy I assume
    Yes, him
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 62,724
    1.08
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 62,724
    Paul Brand
    @PaulBrandITV
    ·
    4m
    BREAKING: Liz Truss will make a statement in Downing Street at 1:30pm.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 35,990
    Crest on the lectern
  • CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 60,216
    Lecturn outside No.10
  • londonpubmanlondonpubman Posts: 3,639
    The Crest is there so no GE...
  • nico679nico679 Posts: 6,275
    Cookie said:

    nico679 said:

    Must be awful to have achieved your ambition to be PM and then to crash and burn 6 weeks later.

    Yes, agreed.
    All of us fail from time to time. But few so spectacularly or so publicly. I feel the same slight sickness on her behalf that I did see Gordon Brown's world come crashing down around him with bigoted-woman-gate.
    I do have a little sympathy for her but she did bring this on herself and has caused a lot of harm to many people .
  • Pro_RataPro_Rata Posts: 5,288

    Cookie said:

    Cookie said:

    Weather or not you want it report.

    Air quality in Seattle is now slightly improved, now AQ1=230 = very unhealthy. So bad it actually woke me up in middle of night (why I'm up working AND typing here).

    Wind's are shifting, and sloooooowly begining to bring in clean(er) air from North Pacific, with rain (which we need badly) forecast for Friday into next week.

    This is the second time in four or five years we've had MAJOR problem with forest fire smoke. NOT something that was the norm for my first quarter century in the great Pacific Northwest.

    Anyone who tries to tell you that global warming isn't real, is blowing smoke up your ass.

    Always want the reports, SSI. I was going to say nothing is too arcane for this site. That might not be true - but this is nowhere near the limit of arcanery. Keep it coming!
    Air Quality Index for York = 33 = good!

    Addendum - Westminster AQI = approx 60 = moderate
    AQI 44 in Dublin = Good
    I was going to ask you where you got this from and thought Google might answer me - this is quite a good source:
    https://aqicn.org/map/unitedkingdom/

    You mention York: traditionally, AQ in York has been surprisingly poor for a small city due to its location in relation to a number of coal power stations. Almost no coal being burned for UK electricity now, but AQ still relatively poor for a small city. I expect due to traffic.

    It's worth noting that, as I understand it, these AQI stats tend to by hyper local - that is, they will be quite different 100 yards away. The primary driver is traffic, and the worst areas in the UK are largely those roads with the heaviest traffic (and with frequent traffic jams).
    This is my source, covers the globe. Lots of monitoring sites depending on area, hundreds in Seattle:

    https://www.iqair.com/us/air-quality-map?lat=47.568236&lng=-122.308628&zoomLevel=10
    The other factor in York is its propensity to still air - the Vale of York is a common UK location for fog.
  • Scott_xP said:

    Crest on the lectern

    "I fight on. I fight to win"
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 34,664
    IanB2 said:

    Lecturn in ten minutes!

    Or at least a statement from no. 10

    "Nothing has changed!" "I fight on!" ?
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 10,061
    NOTHING HAS CHANGED! A new day has dawned has it not a quitter, the lady's not for its a funny old world, The Oval...... Malfunction! Malfunction!
  • SlackbladderSlackbladder Posts: 9,773
    Yay more chaos!!!
  • Hang on. If she is resigning as PM she needs a crest doesn't she?
  • pingping Posts: 3,805
    1.05
  • SlackbladderSlackbladder Posts: 9,773

    Hang on. If she is resigning as PM she needs a crest doesn't she?

    There is a crest.
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 49,863
    nico679 said:

    Must be awful to have achieved your ambition to be PM and then to crash and burn 6 weeks later.

    She still gets her photo on the staircase
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 22,015
    Hopefully not Coffey as interim PM.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 60,457
    edited October 2022
    Christ, how exciting.
  • SlackbladderSlackbladder Posts: 9,773
    Is that Laura K at the lecturn? Laura K for PM!!
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 62,724

    Hopefully not Coffey as interim PM.

    My wallet says you are so wrong.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 35,990
    17. But I'm not sure it matters anymore https://twitter.com/pauljholmes/status/1583071291506323457
  • CookieCookie Posts: 13,803
    nico679 said:

    Cookie said:

    nico679 said:

    Must be awful to have achieved your ambition to be PM and then to crash and burn 6 weeks later.

    Yes, agreed.
    All of us fail from time to time. But few so spectacularly or so publicly. I feel the same slight sickness on her behalf that I did see Gordon Brown's world come crashing down around him with bigoted-woman-gate.
    I do have a little sympathy for her but she did bring this on herself and has caused a lot of harm to many people .
    So did Gordon Brown.
    And yet neither are comic book villains. Neither were criminals out to enrich themselves. Both were doing what they thought best. And both are humans. There is an element of Greek tragedy to the demise of both: hubris and nemesis.
  • RandallFlaggRandallFlagg Posts: 1,293
    SW Norfolk by-election soon?
  • RazedabodeRazedabode Posts: 3,028
    Would have been so funny if she came out and announced an election
  • nico679 said:

    Cookie said:

    nico679 said:

    Must be awful to have achieved your ambition to be PM and then to crash and burn 6 weeks later.

    Yes, agreed.
    All of us fail from time to time. But few so spectacularly or so publicly. I feel the same slight sickness on her behalf that I did see Gordon Brown's world come crashing down around him with bigoted-woman-gate.
    I do have a little sympathy for her but she did bring this on herself and has caused a lot of harm to many people .
    I think many would agree with you but she has to go
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 35,990
    The pound rising and gilt yields falling (the cost of govt borrowing) as the lectern is wheeled out in front of Number 10
  • numbertwelvenumbertwelve Posts: 6,813
    This looks to me like she’s been pushed before there’s a firm plan in place re the succession - which is going to make things… interesting… in the coming days
  • Due to a very late change in plans today I am currently walking round IKEA Lakeside in a suit watching Sky News and talking to you. Nothing to see here...
  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 42,957
    The lectern is like an Escher painting - going nowhere.

    Which is of course a reverse symbol of what is about to happen to Liz.

    For the lolz I'd absolutely love it if she said I'm staying.
  • GhedebravGhedebrav Posts: 3,860
    What's the over under on number of blinks per minute? I'm going for a controlled 35.
  • RandallFlaggRandallFlagg Posts: 1,293
    Cookie said:

    nico679 said:

    Cookie said:

    nico679 said:

    Must be awful to have achieved your ambition to be PM and then to crash and burn 6 weeks later.

    Yes, agreed.
    All of us fail from time to time. But few so spectacularly or so publicly. I feel the same slight sickness on her behalf that I did see Gordon Brown's world come crashing down around him with bigoted-woman-gate.
    I do have a little sympathy for her but she did bring this on herself and has caused a lot of harm to many people .
    So did Gordon Brown.
    And yet neither are comic book villains. Neither were criminals out to enrich themselves. Both were doing what they thought best. And both are humans. There is an element of Greek tragedy to the demise of both: hubris and nemesis.
    Brown was PM for almost three years...
    Truss is going to be the shortest PM in history. I think she had it worse.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 62,724
    1.02
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,020
    edited October 2022
    Cookie said:

    nico679 said:

    Cookie said:

    nico679 said:

    Must be awful to have achieved your ambition to be PM and then to crash and burn 6 weeks later.

    Yes, agreed.
    All of us fail from time to time. But few so spectacularly or so publicly. I feel the same slight sickness on her behalf that I did see Gordon Brown's world come crashing down around him with bigoted-woman-gate.
    I do have a little sympathy for her but she did bring this on herself and has caused a lot of harm to many people .
    So did Gordon Brown.
    And yet neither are comic book villains. Neither were criminals out to enrich themselves. Both were doing what they thought best. And both are humans. There is an element of Greek tragedy to the demise of both: hubris and nemesis.
    I don't give Brown an easy pass like that. Don't forget the political careers of his own side that Brown destroyed by regularly passing dirt on them to the papers and of course he knew nothing about McBride / Draper sitting right next to him organising a disgusting smear operation.
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 10,061
    Sky saying she will resign, its over
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 62,724
    She's gone says Beth
  • Rigby confirms it is her resignation
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 60,457
    Confirmed. She's about to resign.
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 49,863
    nico679 said:

    Cookie said:

    nico679 said:

    Must be awful to have achieved your ambition to be PM and then to crash and burn 6 weeks later.

    Yes, agreed.
    All of us fail from time to time. But few so spectacularly or so publicly. I feel the same slight sickness on her behalf that I did see Gordon Brown's world come crashing down around him with bigoted-woman-gate.
    I do have a little sympathy for her but she did bring this on herself and has caused a lot of harm to many people .
    It was the ultimate in idiotic hubris, thinking she was all powerful and didn’t need to lay any ground or bring anyone else along with her.

    She worked with Johnson for too long, and leaned all the wrong lessons.
  • mwadamsmwadams Posts: 3,593
    These men are not nicking the lectern.


  • SlackbladderSlackbladder Posts: 9,773
    So what happens now? Who the Hell knows.
  • Confirmed. She's about to resign.

    The relief
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 71,073
    Spare some sympathy for the flotsam.
    Don't overdo it, though.

    https://twitter.com/danbloom1/status/1583012281591664641
    ...piece on the utter breakdown of the Tory party last night

    A Tory MP told me after the vote was watered down: "F***ing c***s! I should have rebelled! I am f***ed in my constituency now!”
  • Can anyone explain the significance of the Crest being on the lectern to it not?
  • BlancheLivermoreBlancheLivermore Posts: 5,917
    edited October 2022
    Did anyone else hear Mike Freer MP talking yesterday on R5 about the Chancellor’s quantum table?

    “Nothing is off the table and nothing is on the table”
  • SeaShantyIrish2SeaShantyIrish2 Posts: 17,559
    edited October 2022
    Is the fact that the Lecturn exhibits a definite twisting and turning, some kind of graphic symbol?

    Are they waiting for Larry the Cat to saunter by?
  • Confirmed. She's about to resign.

    The relief
    I believe the appropriate word is REJOICE! REJOICE!
  • CookieCookie Posts: 13,803
    Blimey.
    I said earlier today these things always drag on longer than you think. Boris clung on for about 6 months after his position became untenable. This is British politics once again moving surprisingly quickly when it has to.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 62,724
    Nigelb said:

    What are the odds on Mordaunt being wheeled out to make the statement instead ?

    LOL
  • DriverDriver Posts: 4,963

    Can anyone explain the significance of the Crest being on the lectern to it not?

    Crest = government/PM business
    No crest - party business, i.e. calling a general election
  • AlistairMAlistairM Posts: 2,005
    The key question is what happens now? What plan do the Tories have to put in a new PM ASAP?
  • CookieCookie Posts: 13,803
    TOPPING said:

    Good thing Cameron called that referendum to settle the internal rifts in the Conservative Party or things would have gotten ugly

    https://twitter.com/BergAslak/status/1582802166657736704

    That chaos with Ed Milliband is looking particularly attractive meanwhile.
    I'd take this over having Nicola Sturgeon's hands on the levers of government.
  • StockyStocky Posts: 10,215
    Historic day then.

    Again..
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 71,073

    LEGENDARY MODESTY KLAXON

    It's become a convention.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 52,568
    Hubris, meet nemesis.
  • stjohnstjohn Posts: 1,861
    Therese Coffey last price matched 22. Unbelievable!
  • numbertwelvenumbertwelve Posts: 6,813
    Can’t even turn up on time for her resignation statement lol
  • Pro_RataPro_Rata Posts: 5,288
    Scott_xP said:
    Decent poll for her to end on.

    Only 29 behind.
  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 42,957
    While they may have trashed their reputation for economic competence, governance, and politics in general, at least the Cons have reclaimed their reputation for being ruthless over getting rid of duff leaders.
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 10,061
    The ghost of Canning is cracking one off
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 122,969
    So Truss goes, has to be Sunak by coronation now in my view
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 49,863
    edited October 2022
    Here we go,,


  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 71,073
    I think we are about to hear the first concession speech to … a lettuce
    https://twitter.com/kakape/status/1583073547039432706
  • GhedebravGhedebrav Posts: 3,860
    Still think she's going to cling on. Very happy to be wrong, of course.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 35,990

    Hubris, meet nemesis.

    The immovable object of Liz's inadequacy meets the immovable object of political reality
  • HERE WE GO...
  • CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 60,216
    Husband with her. She’s going.
  • mwadamsmwadams Posts: 3,593
    BBC: "So much has been happening in each 24 hour segment"

    "24 hour segment". Truly the voice of the people.
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 42,592

    Off-topic:

    Re. the potential cable-cutting. It can be argued that one of the first acts Britain committed during World War One won the war (eventually). Within the first few weeks of the war, we cut all but one of Germany's marine cables (and we had access to that one).

    This severely hampered German international communications throughout the war, and aided our signals intelligence. Then in 1917 it allowed the infamous Zimmerman Telegram to be intercepted, which helped bring the US into the war.

    Cutting cables nowadays would not have the same effect; but it may prove absolutely awful for trade.

    Good for Elon Musk though...

    What state is OneWeb in at the moment?
    I think something like OneWeb/Starlink depends on the international links as well - I don't think even the intra-satellite laser links in Starlink V2 will have anywhere near the capacity.
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 49,863
    Gone!
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 52,568
    GONE
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 42,592
    Good.
  • I presume Steve Bray making a racket again.
  • londonpubmanlondonpubman Posts: 3,639
    Biggest political meltdown of all time!
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 49,863
    New leader in a week
  • BBC reported that she is resigning just before she came out of the door
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 42,592
    edited October 2022
    A week-long leadership election. Hence no membership vote.
  • Told Charles she is resigning
  • One PBer owes me £500.

    Nice.
  • SlackbladderSlackbladder Posts: 9,773
    leadserhip election within a week...
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 62,724
    One week
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 71,073
    "Leadership election"
    Klaxon.
  • Hubris, meet nemesis.

    Glorious! Another leadership contest! This will be BRUTAL
  • JonathanJonathan Posts: 21,664
    bye Liz!
  • She looked relieved, if anything.
  • StockyStocky Posts: 10,215
    Remaining until successor is chosen.
  • TheValiantTheValiant Posts: 1,874
    Short and sweet.

    Resigned. No members ballot either if she's gone in a week.
  • EabhalEabhal Posts: 8,671
    One week!!
  • stjohnstjohn Posts: 1,861
    Rishi gone odds on.
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