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  • CookieCookie Posts: 14,398
    nico679 said:

    Must be awful to have achieved your ambition to be PM and then to crash and burn 6 weeks later.

    Yes, agreed.
    All of us fail from time to time. But few so spectacularly or so publicly. I feel the same slight sickness on her behalf that I did see Gordon Brown's world come crashing down around him with bigoted-woman-gate.
  • PaulSimonPaulSimon Posts: 34
    Sounds like they've at least tried to arrange some sort of orderly transition. Like Robert Baratheon, at least they'll say she did this right, this one thing...
  • DoubleCarpetDoubleCarpet Posts: 899
    Question, why do we think Sunak is a fair bit shorter than Mordaunt in the next PM market? Given that we are always being told there is a big chunk of the party very much against him while that isn't the case with Penny?

    Thanks
  • CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 60,281
    R4 WATO Truss Downing St statement 1.30
  • FlatlanderFlatlander Posts: 4,835

    Off-topic:

    Re. the potential cable-cutting. It can be argued that one of the first acts Britain committed during World War One won the war (eventually). Within the first few weeks of the war, we cut all but one of Germany's marine cables (and we had access to that one).

    This severely hampered German international communications throughout the war, and aided our signals intelligence. Then in 1917 it allowed the infamous Zimmerman Telegram to be intercepted, which helped bring the US into the war.

    Cutting cables nowadays would not have the same effect; but it may prove absolutely awful for trade.

    Good for Elon Musk though...

    What state is OneWeb in at the moment?
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 10,061

    KGM taken off air for a week

    KGM?
    Krishnan 'Potty mouth' Guru Murphy I assume
    Yes, him
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 63,820
    1.08
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 63,820
    Paul Brand
    @PaulBrandITV
    ·
    4m
    BREAKING: Liz Truss will make a statement in Downing Street at 1:30pm.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 36,371
    Crest on the lectern
  • CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 60,281
    Lecturn outside No.10
  • londonpubmanlondonpubman Posts: 3,641
    The Crest is there so no GE...
  • nico679nico679 Posts: 6,277
    Cookie said:

    nico679 said:

    Must be awful to have achieved your ambition to be PM and then to crash and burn 6 weeks later.

    Yes, agreed.
    All of us fail from time to time. But few so spectacularly or so publicly. I feel the same slight sickness on her behalf that I did see Gordon Brown's world come crashing down around him with bigoted-woman-gate.
    I do have a little sympathy for her but she did bring this on herself and has caused a lot of harm to many people .
  • Pro_RataPro_Rata Posts: 5,415

    Cookie said:

    Cookie said:

    Weather or not you want it report.

    Air quality in Seattle is now slightly improved, now AQ1=230 = very unhealthy. So bad it actually woke me up in middle of night (why I'm up working AND typing here).

    Wind's are shifting, and sloooooowly begining to bring in clean(er) air from North Pacific, with rain (which we need badly) forecast for Friday into next week.

    This is the second time in four or five years we've had MAJOR problem with forest fire smoke. NOT something that was the norm for my first quarter century in the great Pacific Northwest.

    Anyone who tries to tell you that global warming isn't real, is blowing smoke up your ass.

    Always want the reports, SSI. I was going to say nothing is too arcane for this site. That might not be true - but this is nowhere near the limit of arcanery. Keep it coming!
    Air Quality Index for York = 33 = good!

    Addendum - Westminster AQI = approx 60 = moderate
    AQI 44 in Dublin = Good
    I was going to ask you where you got this from and thought Google might answer me - this is quite a good source:
    https://aqicn.org/map/unitedkingdom/

    You mention York: traditionally, AQ in York has been surprisingly poor for a small city due to its location in relation to a number of coal power stations. Almost no coal being burned for UK electricity now, but AQ still relatively poor for a small city. I expect due to traffic.

    It's worth noting that, as I understand it, these AQI stats tend to by hyper local - that is, they will be quite different 100 yards away. The primary driver is traffic, and the worst areas in the UK are largely those roads with the heaviest traffic (and with frequent traffic jams).
    This is my source, covers the globe. Lots of monitoring sites depending on area, hundreds in Seattle:

    https://www.iqair.com/us/air-quality-map?lat=47.568236&lng=-122.308628&zoomLevel=10
    The other factor in York is its propensity to still air - the Vale of York is a common UK location for fog.
  • RochdalePioneersRochdalePioneers Posts: 29,183
    Scott_xP said:

    Crest on the lectern

    "I fight on. I fight to win"
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 34,933
    IanB2 said:

    Lecturn in ten minutes!

    Or at least a statement from no. 10

    "Nothing has changed!" "I fight on!" ?
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 10,061
    NOTHING HAS CHANGED! A new day has dawned has it not a quitter, the lady's not for its a funny old world, The Oval...... Malfunction! Malfunction!
  • SlackbladderSlackbladder Posts: 9,788
    Yay more chaos!!!
  • RochdalePioneersRochdalePioneers Posts: 29,183
    Hang on. If she is resigning as PM she needs a crest doesn't she?
  • pingping Posts: 3,805
    1.05
  • SlackbladderSlackbladder Posts: 9,788

    Hang on. If she is resigning as PM she needs a crest doesn't she?

    There is a crest.
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 50,384
    nico679 said:

    Must be awful to have achieved your ambition to be PM and then to crash and burn 6 weeks later.

    She still gets her photo on the staircase
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 22,418
    Hopefully not Coffey as interim PM.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 61,451
    edited 2022 20
    Christ, how exciting.
  • SlackbladderSlackbladder Posts: 9,788
    Is that Laura K at the lecturn? Laura K for PM!!
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 63,820

    Hopefully not Coffey as interim PM.

    My wallet says you are so wrong.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 36,371
    17. But I'm not sure it matters anymore https://twitter.com/pauljholmes/status/1583071291506323457
  • CookieCookie Posts: 14,398
    nico679 said:

    Cookie said:

    nico679 said:

    Must be awful to have achieved your ambition to be PM and then to crash and burn 6 weeks later.

    Yes, agreed.
    All of us fail from time to time. But few so spectacularly or so publicly. I feel the same slight sickness on her behalf that I did see Gordon Brown's world come crashing down around him with bigoted-woman-gate.
    I do have a little sympathy for her but she did bring this on herself and has caused a lot of harm to many people .
    So did Gordon Brown.
    And yet neither are comic book villains. Neither were criminals out to enrich themselves. Both were doing what they thought best. And both are humans. There is an element of Greek tragedy to the demise of both: hubris and nemesis.
  • RandallFlaggRandallFlagg Posts: 1,351
    SW Norfolk by-election soon?
  • RazedabodeRazedabode Posts: 3,049
    Would have been so funny if she came out and announced an election
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 64,259
    nico679 said:

    Cookie said:

    nico679 said:

    Must be awful to have achieved your ambition to be PM and then to crash and burn 6 weeks later.

    Yes, agreed.
    All of us fail from time to time. But few so spectacularly or so publicly. I feel the same slight sickness on her behalf that I did see Gordon Brown's world come crashing down around him with bigoted-woman-gate.
    I do have a little sympathy for her but she did bring this on herself and has caused a lot of harm to many people .
    I think many would agree with you but she has to go
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 36,371
    The pound rising and gilt yields falling (the cost of govt borrowing) as the lectern is wheeled out in front of Number 10
  • numbertwelvenumbertwelve Posts: 7,071
    This looks to me like she’s been pushed before there’s a firm plan in place re the succession - which is going to make things… interesting… in the coming days
  • RochdalePioneersRochdalePioneers Posts: 29,183
    Due to a very late change in plans today I am currently walking round IKEA Lakeside in a suit watching Sky News and talking to you. Nothing to see here...
  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 43,238
    The lectern is like an Escher painting - going nowhere.

    Which is of course a reverse symbol of what is about to happen to Liz.

    For the lolz I'd absolutely love it if she said I'm staying.
  • GhedebravGhedebrav Posts: 3,860
    What's the over under on number of blinks per minute? I'm going for a controlled 35.
  • RandallFlaggRandallFlagg Posts: 1,351
    Cookie said:

    nico679 said:

    Cookie said:

    nico679 said:

    Must be awful to have achieved your ambition to be PM and then to crash and burn 6 weeks later.

    Yes, agreed.
    All of us fail from time to time. But few so spectacularly or so publicly. I feel the same slight sickness on her behalf that I did see Gordon Brown's world come crashing down around him with bigoted-woman-gate.
    I do have a little sympathy for her but she did bring this on herself and has caused a lot of harm to many people .
    So did Gordon Brown.
    And yet neither are comic book villains. Neither were criminals out to enrich themselves. Both were doing what they thought best. And both are humans. There is an element of Greek tragedy to the demise of both: hubris and nemesis.
    Brown was PM for almost three years...
    Truss is going to be the shortest PM in history. I think she had it worse.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 63,820
    1.02
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,624
    edited 2022 20
    Cookie said:

    nico679 said:

    Cookie said:

    nico679 said:

    Must be awful to have achieved your ambition to be PM and then to crash and burn 6 weeks later.

    Yes, agreed.
    All of us fail from time to time. But few so spectacularly or so publicly. I feel the same slight sickness on her behalf that I did see Gordon Brown's world come crashing down around him with bigoted-woman-gate.
    I do have a little sympathy for her but she did bring this on herself and has caused a lot of harm to many people .
    So did Gordon Brown.
    And yet neither are comic book villains. Neither were criminals out to enrich themselves. Both were doing what they thought best. And both are humans. There is an element of Greek tragedy to the demise of both: hubris and nemesis.
    I don't give Brown an easy pass like that. Don't forget the political careers of his own side that Brown destroyed by regularly passing dirt on them to the papers and of course he knew nothing about McBride / Draper sitting right next to him organising a disgusting smear operation.
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 10,061
    Sky saying she will resign, its over
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 63,820
    She's gone says Beth
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 64,259
    Rigby confirms it is her resignation
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 61,451
    Confirmed. She's about to resign.
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 50,384
    nico679 said:

    Cookie said:

    nico679 said:

    Must be awful to have achieved your ambition to be PM and then to crash and burn 6 weeks later.

    Yes, agreed.
    All of us fail from time to time. But few so spectacularly or so publicly. I feel the same slight sickness on her behalf that I did see Gordon Brown's world come crashing down around him with bigoted-woman-gate.
    I do have a little sympathy for her but she did bring this on herself and has caused a lot of harm to many people .
    It was the ultimate in idiotic hubris, thinking she was all powerful and didn’t need to lay any ground or bring anyone else along with her.

    She worked with Johnson for too long, and leaned all the wrong lessons.
  • mwadamsmwadams Posts: 3,714
    These men are not nicking the lectern.


  • SlackbladderSlackbladder Posts: 9,788
    So what happens now? Who the Hell knows.
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 64,259

    Confirmed. She's about to resign.

    The relief
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 73,467
    Spare some sympathy for the flotsam.
    Don't overdo it, though.

    https://twitter.com/danbloom1/status/1583012281591664641
    ...piece on the utter breakdown of the Tory party last night

    A Tory MP told me after the vote was watered down: "F***ing c***s! I should have rebelled! I am f***ed in my constituency now!”
  • MPartridgeMPartridge Posts: 174
    Can anyone explain the significance of the Crest being on the lectern to it not?
  • BlancheLivermoreBlancheLivermore Posts: 6,129
    edited 2022 20
    Did anyone else hear Mike Freer MP talking yesterday on R5 about the Chancellor’s quantum table?

    “Nothing is off the table and nothing is on the table”
  • SeaShantyIrish2SeaShantyIrish2 Posts: 17,559
    edited 2022 20
    Is the fact that the Lecturn exhibits a definite twisting and turning, some kind of graphic symbol?

    Are they waiting for Larry the Cat to saunter by?
  • RochdalePioneersRochdalePioneers Posts: 29,183

    Confirmed. She's about to resign.

    The relief
    I believe the appropriate word is REJOICE! REJOICE!
  • CookieCookie Posts: 14,398
    Blimey.
    I said earlier today these things always drag on longer than you think. Boris clung on for about 6 months after his position became untenable. This is British politics once again moving surprisingly quickly when it has to.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 63,820
    Nigelb said:

    What are the odds on Mordaunt being wheeled out to make the statement instead ?

    LOL
  • DriverDriver Posts: 5,510

    Can anyone explain the significance of the Crest being on the lectern to it not?

    Crest = government/PM business
    No crest - party business, i.e. calling a general election
  • AlistairMAlistairM Posts: 2,005
    The key question is what happens now? What plan do the Tories have to put in a new PM ASAP?
  • CookieCookie Posts: 14,398
    TOPPING said:

    Good thing Cameron called that referendum to settle the internal rifts in the Conservative Party or things would have gotten ugly

    https://twitter.com/BergAslak/status/1582802166657736704

    That chaos with Ed Milliband is looking particularly attractive meanwhile.
    I'd take this over having Nicola Sturgeon's hands on the levers of government.
  • StockyStocky Posts: 10,248
    Historic day then.

    Again..
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 73,467

    LEGENDARY MODESTY KLAXON

    It's become a convention.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 53,358
    Hubris, meet nemesis.
  • stjohnstjohn Posts: 1,891
    Therese Coffey last price matched 22. Unbelievable!
  • numbertwelvenumbertwelve Posts: 7,071
    Can’t even turn up on time for her resignation statement lol
  • Pro_RataPro_Rata Posts: 5,415
    Scott_xP said:
    Decent poll for her to end on.

    Only 29 behind.
  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 43,238
    While they may have trashed their reputation for economic competence, governance, and politics in general, at least the Cons have reclaimed their reputation for being ruthless over getting rid of duff leaders.
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 10,061
    The ghost of Canning is cracking one off
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 125,127
    So Truss goes, has to be Sunak by coronation now in my view
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 50,384
    edited 2022 20
    Here we go,,


  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 73,467
    I think we are about to hear the first concession speech to … a lettuce
    https://twitter.com/kakape/status/1583073547039432706
  • GhedebravGhedebrav Posts: 3,860
    Still think she's going to cling on. Very happy to be wrong, of course.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 36,371

    Hubris, meet nemesis.

    The immovable object of Liz's inadequacy meets the immovable object of political reality
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,624
    HERE WE GO...
  • CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 60,281
    Husband with her. She’s going.
  • mwadamsmwadams Posts: 3,714
    BBC: "So much has been happening in each 24 hour segment"

    "24 hour segment". Truly the voice of the people.
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 44,236

    Off-topic:

    Re. the potential cable-cutting. It can be argued that one of the first acts Britain committed during World War One won the war (eventually). Within the first few weeks of the war, we cut all but one of Germany's marine cables (and we had access to that one).

    This severely hampered German international communications throughout the war, and aided our signals intelligence. Then in 1917 it allowed the infamous Zimmerman Telegram to be intercepted, which helped bring the US into the war.

    Cutting cables nowadays would not have the same effect; but it may prove absolutely awful for trade.

    Good for Elon Musk though...

    What state is OneWeb in at the moment?
    I think something like OneWeb/Starlink depends on the international links as well - I don't think even the intra-satellite laser links in Starlink V2 will have anywhere near the capacity.
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 50,384
    Gone!
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 53,358
    GONE
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 44,236
    Good.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,624
    I presume Steve Bray making a racket again.
  • londonpubmanlondonpubman Posts: 3,641
    Biggest political meltdown of all time!
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 50,384
    New leader in a week
  • prh47bridgeprh47bridge Posts: 463
    BBC reported that she is resigning just before she came out of the door
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 44,236
    edited 2022 20
    A week-long leadership election. Hence no membership vote.
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 64,259
    Told Charles she is resigning
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 120,739
    One PBer owes me £500.

    Nice.
  • SlackbladderSlackbladder Posts: 9,788
    leadserhip election within a week...
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 63,820
    One week
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 73,467
    "Leadership election"
    Klaxon.
  • RochdalePioneersRochdalePioneers Posts: 29,183

    Hubris, meet nemesis.

    Glorious! Another leadership contest! This will be BRUTAL
  • JonathanJonathan Posts: 21,817
    bye Liz!
  • PaulSimonPaulSimon Posts: 34
    She looked relieved, if anything.
  • StockyStocky Posts: 10,248
    Remaining until successor is chosen.
  • TheValiantTheValiant Posts: 1,912
    Short and sweet.

    Resigned. No members ballot either if she's gone in a week.
  • EabhalEabhal Posts: 9,380
    One week!!
  • stjohnstjohn Posts: 1,891
    Rishi gone odds on.
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