Dan Bloom @danbloom1 · 24m MP continues: "People will look at whether she can turn things around, and they will look at whether they can win with her as prime minister. If they cant, and she can’t, it gets to the Lady Macbeth territory - If it were done… then 'twere well it were done quickly."
Why is he saying that today?
That comment could have been made two weeks ago. Now, the answer to those questions is already extremely clear.
Some Conservative MPs are just ultra-loyal to their Party's regime of rules and figureheads. Weird, but they refuse to question.
Others are just pig-shit thick. Including plenty in the new intake.
In terms of fessing up to my previous views on Truss, I’ve taken a look back and actually pleasantly surprised that I was calling out it was more likely than not she would flop. Where I was more incorrect was on having a massive downer on Sunak and thinking Truss would do a better job than him (laughable now):
July 26th July 27th
“So there is a chance that with the right advice that she actually finds her feet and turns into a much more formidable opponent.
I don’t think it’s likely. But she’s got more chance of impressing on the upside than Sunak.“
5 September
“I think Truss will fail because I think events are too much for pretty much any PM to handle. That said, I still think she was a better choice than Sunak. A dice roll, but one the Tories probably had to make”
(Hmm… not convinced about that one now…)
6 September
“ My prediction - by October/November the narrative will be “oh didn’t we underestimate Liz, she’s doing a really good job in challenging circumstances” before it all implodes next year.”
(Obviously wrong! But at least I got the implosion right - just quicker than I ever thought possible).
Isn't that route within range of Ukrainian artillery as well?
It's a contemporary battlefield tour. Money back if not satisfied!
During the Crimean War, tourists led by Mark Twain visited the wrecked city of Sevastopol.
Thomas Cook ran tours of the Boer War battlefields before the conflict was ended.
Er, no way Mark Twain (ak Samuel Langhorne Clemens) was giving battlefield tours during the Crimean War. He wasn't yet a cub riverboat pilot when the war ended (1856)
He visited Crimea in 1867, over ten years AFTER the end of the Crimean War.
"Twain himself had visited the Crimea in the summer of 1867 when he went on his first European excursion (The Innocents Abroad, Ch. 35). He had a good idea of the various battlefields, even going so far as to make a sketch of them (see Notebooks and Journals, I, 404).
For the most part, Twain emphasized he desolation, still visible many years after the war had ended. But he also spoke respectfully of the Russian defenders of Sevastopol, whose "desperate valor could not avail, and they had to give up at last." No hint here of Russians turning tail at the sight of a British regiment. Earlier on this voyage he had seen "the white-moustached old Crimean soldier Canrobert, marshal of France," on parade in Paris (Ch. 13).
It's Brendan Clarke Smith from the Cabinet Office, answering because "its a breach of security" so he's batting away any questions on policy as not his remit.
Dan Bloom @danbloom1 · 24m MP continues: "People will look at whether she can turn things around, and they will look at whether they can win with her as prime minister. If they cant, and she can’t, it gets to the Lady Macbeth territory - If it were done… then 'twere well it were done quickly."
Why is he saying that today?
That comment could have been made two weeks ago. Now, the answer to those questions is already extremely clear.
Some Conservative MPs are just ultra-loyal to their Party's regime of rules and figureheads. Weird, but they refuse to question.
Others are just pig-shit thick. Including plenty in the new intake.
I have made this point repeatedly. So many of the 2019 Tories are thick as mince. They are great at repeating slogans but that's all they can do. Which isn't helpful if you need MPs to actually become ministers and make informed decisions.
SO how does the voting record as published in Hansard get changed, to reflect that people voted in a division who apparently did NOT go through a lobby in the normal fashion?
As with the (alleged) Prime Minister and her (sometimes) Chief Whip? Who are now both listed as votes against the Fracking Ban motion, but last night were conspicuously absent (if not exactly AWOL) from the voting?
In terms of fessing up to my previous views on Truss, I’ve taken a look back and actually pleasantly surprised that I was calling out it was more likely than not she would flop. Where I was more incorrect was on having a massive downer on Sunak and thinking Truss would do a better job than him (laughable now):
July 26th July 27th
“So there is a chance that with the right advice that she actually finds her feet and turns into a much more formidable opponent.
I don’t think it’s likely. But she’s got more chance of impressing on the upside than Sunak.“
5 September
“I think Truss will fail because I think events are too much for pretty much any PM to handle. That said, I still think she was a better choice than Sunak. A dice roll, but one the Tories probably had to make”
(Hmm… not convinced about that one now…)
6 September
“ My prediction - by October/November the narrative will be “oh didn’t we underestimate Liz, she’s doing a really good job in challenging circumstances” before it all implodes next year.”
(Obviously wrong! But at least I got the implosion right - just quicker than I ever thought possible).
Make sure you hang on to that, Twelve. It'll be handy when the PB War Crimes Tribunal starts its work.
In terms of fessing up to my previous views on Truss, I’ve taken a look back and actually pleasantly surprised that I was calling out it was more likely than not she would flop. Where I was more incorrect was on having a massive downer on Sunak and thinking Truss would do a better job than him (laughable now):
July 26th July 27th
“So there is a chance that with the right advice that she actually finds her feet and turns into a much more formidable opponent.
I don’t think it’s likely. But she’s got more chance of impressing on the upside than Sunak.“
5 September
“I think Truss will fail because I think events are too much for pretty much any PM to handle. That said, I still think she was a better choice than Sunak. A dice roll, but one the Tories probably had to make”
(Hmm… not convinced about that one now…)
6 September
“ My prediction - by October/November the narrative will be “oh didn’t we underestimate Liz, she’s doing a really good job in challenging circumstances” before it all implodes next year.”
(Obviously wrong! But at least I got the implosion right - just quicker than I ever thought possible).
A few years back, I had a real downer om a prospective Johnson PMship, due to his performance as MoL. I think I was right, and unusually for the right reasons. I did not have such a massive negative on Truss, and was willing to give her the benefit of the doubt in case she surprised on the upside.
Ooops.
Then again, I was a Mordaunt guy. I still think she was the best option out of the lot of them.
On the grounds of it's good to get out of your silo and expose yourself to different views I caught a bit of David Campbell Bannerman on GB News yesterday. He detects in all this Truss chaos the unmistakable hand of "corporate WEF globalists" seeking revenge for Brexit. Really seemed to think that. Quite passionate about it. Then it was back to my silo. Least I've proved I can do it.
Labour gets granted an UQ on Braverman - up soon in the House?
They continue to press on fresh bruises
They’d better be careful with the Truss attacks. Starmer came over as a bully yesterday.
Hmm. I had that thought, too, listening to PMQ’s. Out of a woman’s mouth it wouldn’t have been problematic, but, yes, Starmer is treading a fine line.
A little unfair, perhaps. Politics - and particularly PMQ’s is a bear pit and they know what they’re getting themselves into etc etc.
Gender shouldn’t matter. But it kinda does.
Sturgeon has three advantages over Starmer:
1. She’s a woman and can get away with criticising another woman. 2. Physical distance: Edinburgh/London. 3. She keeps it concise and to the point (“Resign”) whereas Starmer is trying to be a loquacious smarty pants.
Then she faffs it all up against the wall by making it all about 'independence'.
Yes, there's nothing like complete and total anarchy at Westminster for putting off people in Scotland from the idea of independence.
Dan Bloom @danbloom1 · 24m MP continues: "People will look at whether she can turn things around, and they will look at whether they can win with her as prime minister. If they cant, and she can’t, it gets to the Lady Macbeth territory - If it were done… then 'twere well it were done quickly."
Why is he saying that today?
That comment could have been made two weeks ago. Now, the answer to those questions is already extremely clear.
Some Conservative MPs are just ultra-loyal to their Party's regime of rules and figureheads. Weird, but they refuse to question.
Others are just pig-shit thick. Including plenty in the new intake.
I have made this point repeatedly. So many of the 2019 Tories are thick as mince. They are great at repeating slogans but that's all they can do. Which isn't helpful if you need MPs to actually become ministers and make informed decisions.
As mentioned earlier, clever people are generally too clever to want to go into politics in the social media age. We get the politicians we deserve. And the only reason you can say "2019 Tories" is that the 2019 Labour new intake was rather small...
Dan Bloom @danbloom1 · 24m MP continues: "People will look at whether she can turn things around, and they will look at whether they can win with her as prime minister. If they cant, and she can’t, it gets to the Lady Macbeth territory - If it were done… then 'twere well it were done quickly."
Why is he saying that today?
That comment could have been made two weeks ago. Now, the answer to those questions is already extremely clear.
Some Conservative MPs are just ultra-loyal to their Party's regime of rules and figureheads. Weird, but they refuse to question.
Others are just pig-shit thick. Including plenty in the new intake.
I have made this point repeatedly. So many of the 2019 Tories are thick as mince. They are great at repeating slogans but that's all they can do. Which isn't helpful if you need MPs to actually become ministers and make informed decisions.
So what's wrong with the Tory selection committees? Dropping into a safe seat with a role in politics for life (well, now to be cut short at the next election!) - surely there should be decent, competent, sensible people to choose from?
If the only question they get asked is "are you prepared to impose the hardest of Brexits on the country regardless of the evidence and damage it would do?", then QED.
News that Russians are starting to get out of Enerhodar. That's the town where the big nuclear plant is based. I hope it has been made clear to Putin that there will be big consequences if anything goes wrong there.
Russian columns leaving Kherson. Given they are well within HIMARS range, wonder if there has been a local deal done between the two sides - take your men (but not your heavy weaponry) over the river without destroying Kherson, and in turn we will not destroy you...?
SO how does the voting record as published in Hansard get changed, to reflect that people voted in a division who apparently did NOT go through a lobby in the normal fashion?
As with the (alleged) Prime Minister and her (sometimes) Chief Whip? Who are now both listed as votes against the Fracking Ban motion, but last night were conspicuously absent (if not exactly AWOL) from the voting?
This is what happens when you have electronic voting. And this is with only 640-odd people eligible to vote, where errors in the record are easy to find and correct.
On the grounds of it's good to get out of your silo and expose yourself to different views I caught a bit of David Campbell Bannerman on GB News yesterday. He detects in all this Truss chaos the unmistakable hand of "corporate WEF globalists" seeking revenge for Brexit. Really seemed to think that. Quite passionate about it. Then it was back to my silo. Least I've proved I can do it.
That BBC archaeologist BritNat weirdo is also a “corporate WEF globalist” obsessive. His Twitter feed is a record of his descent into madness
Labour gets granted an UQ on Braverman - up soon in the House?
They continue to press on fresh bruises
They’d better be careful with the Truss attacks. Starmer came over as a bully yesterday.
Hmm. I had that thought, too, listening to PMQ’s. Out of a woman’s mouth it wouldn’t have been problematic, but, yes, Starmer is treading a fine line.
A little unfair, perhaps. Politics - and particularly PMQ’s is a bear pit and they know what they’re getting themselves into etc etc.
Gender shouldn’t matter. But it kinda does.
Sturgeon has three advantages over Starmer:
1. She’s a woman and can get away with criticising another woman. 2. Physical distance: Edinburgh/London. 3. She keeps it concise and to the point (“Resign”) whereas Starmer is trying to be a loquacious smarty pants.
Then she faffs it all up against the wall by making it all about 'independence'.
Yes, there's nothing like complete and total anarchy at Westminster for putting off people in Scotland from the idea of independence.
The British Nationalists have predicted the demise of the Scottish self-determination movement on thousands of occasions. They have a 100% record to date. 100% wrong.
SO how does the voting record as published in Hansard get changed, to reflect that people voted in a division who apparently did NOT go through a lobby in the normal fashion?
As with the (alleged) Prime Minister and her (sometimes) Chief Whip? Who are now both listed as votes against the Fracking Ban motion, but last night were conspicuously absent (if not exactly AWOL) from the voting?
This is what happens when you have electronic voting. And this is with only 640-odd people eligible to vote, where errors in the record are easy to find and correct.
Did anybody actually see Liz Truss or Wendy Morton in the Division Lobby casting their votes?
SO how does the voting record as published in Hansard get changed, to reflect that people voted in a division who apparently did NOT go through a lobby in the normal fashion?
As with the (alleged) Prime Minister and her (sometimes) Chief Whip? Who are now both listed as votes against the Fracking Ban motion, but last night were conspicuously absent (if not exactly AWOL) from the voting?
I'd imagine a couple of colleagues assure the officials that they definitely saw you in the lobby, and the official swallows any doubts as a favour to powerful people.
After all, the vote is won, there's no question they'd both have supported the government, so adding them to the list just saves a little embarassment.
I suspect that Morton has been added in because she was seen with Truss throughout and it looks better for both of them.
The alternative - that the voting machine fails to record votes and that it happened twice in succession (assuming they went through together) is both unlikely and concerning, for other votes. Surely it gives some sort of confirmation - like a clear beep - when the vote is recorded (like a cashless credit card, which we're all used to), and they will be using this system countless times each week.
Labour gets granted an UQ on Braverman - up soon in the House?
They continue to press on fresh bruises
They’d better be careful with the Truss attacks. Starmer came over as a bully yesterday.
Hmm. I had that thought, too, listening to PMQ’s. Out of a woman’s mouth it wouldn’t have been problematic, but, yes, Starmer is treading a fine line.
A little unfair, perhaps. Politics - and particularly PMQ’s is a bear pit and they know what they’re getting themselves into etc etc.
Gender shouldn’t matter. But it kinda does.
Sturgeon has three advantages over Starmer:
1. She’s a woman and can get away with criticising another woman. 2. Physical distance: Edinburgh/London. 3. She keeps it concise and to the point (“Resign”) whereas Starmer is trying to be a loquacious smarty pants.
Then she faffs it all up against the wall by making it all about 'independence'.
Yes, there's nothing like complete and total anarchy at Westminster for putting off people in Scotland from the idea of independence.
I love how the BritNats think that utter chaos in London is somehow a big plus for the Union.
Dan Bloom @danbloom1 · 24m MP continues: "People will look at whether she can turn things around, and they will look at whether they can win with her as prime minister. If they cant, and she can’t, it gets to the Lady Macbeth territory - If it were done… then 'twere well it were done quickly."
Why is he saying that today?
That comment could have been made two weeks ago. Now, the answer to those questions is already extremely clear.
Some Conservative MPs are just ultra-loyal to their Party's regime of rules and figureheads. Weird, but they refuse to question.
Others are just pig-shit thick. Including plenty in the new intake.
I have made this point repeatedly. So many of the 2019 Tories are thick as mince. They are great at repeating slogans but that's all they can do. Which isn't helpful if you need MPs to actually become ministers and make informed decisions.
To be fair, Labour has a similar proportion of moon-howlers.... Just fewer in number.
Dan Bloom @danbloom1 · 24m MP continues: "People will look at whether she can turn things around, and they will look at whether they can win with her as prime minister. If they cant, and she can’t, it gets to the Lady Macbeth territory - If it were done… then 'twere well it were done quickly."
Why is he saying that today?
That comment could have been made two weeks ago. Now, the answer to those questions is already extremely clear.
Some Conservative MPs are just ultra-loyal to their Party's regime of rules and figureheads. Weird, but they refuse to question.
Others are just pig-shit thick. Including plenty in the new intake.
I have made this point repeatedly. So many of the 2019 Tories are thick as mince. They are great at repeating slogans but that's all they can do. Which isn't helpful if you need MPs to actually become ministers and make informed decisions.
Quite, though I'm startled to find out who is comparing Tory MPs to grice sharn.
Dan Bloom @danbloom1 · 24m MP continues: "People will look at whether she can turn things around, and they will look at whether they can win with her as prime minister. If they cant, and she can’t, it gets to the Lady Macbeth territory - If it were done… then 'twere well it were done quickly."
Why is he saying that today?
That comment could have been made two weeks ago. Now, the answer to those questions is already extremely clear.
Some Conservative MPs are just ultra-loyal to their Party's regime of rules and figureheads. Weird, but they refuse to question.
Others are just pig-shit thick. Including plenty in the new intake.
I have made this point repeatedly. So many of the 2019 Tories are thick as mince. They are great at repeating slogans but that's all they can do. Which isn't helpful if you need MPs to actually become ministers and make informed decisions.
To be fair, Labour has a similar proportion of moon-howlers.... Just fewer in number.
Safe seats = party selection committees indulge their political obsessions free of any need to put a convincing capable candidate in front of the voters.
On the grounds of it's good to get out of your silo and expose yourself to different views I caught a bit of David Campbell Bannerman on GB News yesterday. He detects in all this Truss chaos the unmistakable hand of "corporate WEF globalists" seeking revenge for Brexit. Really seemed to think that. Quite passionate about it. Then it was back to my silo. Least I've proved I can do it.
That BBC archaeologist BritNat weirdo is also a “corporate WEF globalist” obsessive. His Twitter feed is a record of his descent into madness
Neil Oliver
My job is parallel to his historical interest, so I was around him once. His whole demeanor did remind me of mental illness. He wasn't even giving any political views. But his unblinking stare and self-enclosed intensity was very unnerving.
Labour gets granted an UQ on Braverman - up soon in the House?
They continue to press on fresh bruises
They’d better be careful with the Truss attacks. Starmer came over as a bully yesterday.
Hmm. I had that thought, too, listening to PMQ’s. Out of a woman’s mouth it wouldn’t have been problematic, but, yes, Starmer is treading a fine line.
A little unfair, perhaps. Politics - and particularly PMQ’s is a bear pit and they know what they’re getting themselves into etc etc.
Gender shouldn’t matter. But it kinda does.
Sturgeon has three advantages over Starmer:
1. She’s a woman and can get away with criticising another woman. 2. Physical distance: Edinburgh/London. 3. She keeps it concise and to the point (“Resign”) whereas Starmer is trying to be a loquacious smarty pants.
Then she faffs it all up against the wall by making it all about 'independence'.
Yes, there's nothing like complete and total anarchy at Westminster for putting off people in Scotland from the idea of independence.
I love how the BritNats think that utter chaos in London is somehow a big plus for the Union.
As yours truly keeps on saying - without serious refutation mind you - it's the Conservative and Disunionist Party.
Has anyone got a spreadsheet of PBers who were ramping Truss during the summer? It would make for fascinating reading.
Leon. Erm… That’s it.
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Excuse me, I never ramped her.
I wanted her to win, even if she lost the next election for the Tories, as I wanted the Health and Social Care Levy axed. I was quite clear that I'd rather lose the next election with Truss doing that, than win it with Sunak implementing that levy.
That's not ramping, that's putting purity/principle (take your pick) ahead of party politics.
So how least bad do the rest of the polices have to be for you to support someone on the one policy you judge good.
Some policies are a matter of hardcore principle for me and absolute deal-breakers. Being racist, restricting abortion, and increasing NI fit that bill for me.
I tipped Sunak to be PM when he was almost unheard-of and was arguably Boris's biggest fan on this site until they both increased NI and I quit the party and stopped supporting them both instantly the second they increased it. That's how core a principle it is to me.
All my life I've advocated flat and consistent taxes. Higher or lower tax rates is about a choice on what your priorities are, but inconsistent taxes paid by some people based on how they earn but not others who earn the exact same amount? Absolute deal-breaker for me I'm afraid.
I think we can (but won't) debate long into the night how your voting for Nigel Farage sits with your "absolute deal-breakers. Being racist..."
If Corbyn wasn't an anti-semite (big if) then he certainly enabled anti-semitism.
If Farage wasn't...
I absolutely despise Farage. I would never in a million years vote for Farage to go to Westminster.
I cast a protest vote, at a protest election, to get Farage out of the European Parliament and Theresa May out of Downing Street. Had it been a real election and not a sham one, I'd have voted differently.
What if everyone who despised Farage voted for him. What if everyone who despised him had voted for UKIP in the UK. How come you get to register your protest vote but no one else is. You voted for someone who if not a racist enabled racism.
But you have principles and "absolute deal-breakers".
Lots of people registered their protest vote at that election that should never have been.
A A Gill once famously said that there is not an "watching ironically" button to press when you tune in to trashy reality TV. The viewing figures are the viewing figures.
And the MPs elected to Parliament are the MPs elected to Parliament.
How many MPs did Farage get elected to Westminster in 2019?
SO how does the voting record as published in Hansard get changed, to reflect that people voted in a division who apparently did NOT go through a lobby in the normal fashion?
As with the (alleged) Prime Minister and her (sometimes) Chief Whip? Who are now both listed as votes against the Fracking Ban motion, but last night were conspicuously absent (if not exactly AWOL) from the voting?
This is what happens when you have electronic voting. And this is with only 640-odd people eligible to vote, where errors in the record are easy to find and correct.
Did anybody actually see Liz Truss or Wendy Morton in the Division Lobby casting their votes?
I'm sure there are several reliable witnesses. Rees Mogg, for example.
The usual stuff about safe for a year, and no agreed successor, but you could (and maybe Christopher Hope did) use the same reasons to say Boris was immovable.
The usual stuff about safe for a year, and no agreed successor, but you could (and maybe Christopher Hope did) use the same reasons to say Boris was immovable.
Russian columns leaving Kherson. Given they are well within HIMARS range, wonder if there has been a local deal done between the two sides - take your men (but not your heavy weaponry) over the river without destroying Kherson, and in turn we will not destroy you...?
Dan Bloom @danbloom1 · 24m MP continues: "People will look at whether she can turn things around, and they will look at whether they can win with her as prime minister. If they cant, and she can’t, it gets to the Lady Macbeth territory - If it were done… then 'twere well it were done quickly."
Why is he saying that today?
That comment could have been made two weeks ago. Now, the answer to those questions is already extremely clear.
Some Conservative MPs are just ultra-loyal to their Party's regime of rules and figureheads. Weird, but they refuse to question.
Others are just pig-shit thick. Including plenty in the new intake.
I have made this point repeatedly. So many of the 2019 Tories are thick as mince. They are great at repeating slogans but that's all they can do. Which isn't helpful if you need MPs to actually become ministers and make informed decisions.
So what's wrong with the Tory selection committees? Dropping into a safe seat with a role in politics for life (well, now to be cut short at the next election!) - surely there should be decent, competent, sensible people to choose from?
If the only question they get asked is "are you prepared to impose the hardest of Brexits on the country regardless of the evidence and damage it would do?", then QED.
Not sure what the Cons selection committees would have been like in Stoke on Trent and Nottinghamshire, did they really think they were picking actual seat winning MPs in places like Gedling....
If Labour go ahead with this then they are making a rod for their own back. They are going to have very difficult choices to make and this will make it even harder.
SO how does the voting record as published in Hansard get changed, to reflect that people voted in a division who apparently did NOT go through a lobby in the normal fashion?
As with the (alleged) Prime Minister and her (sometimes) Chief Whip? Who are now both listed as votes against the Fracking Ban motion, but last night were conspicuously absent (if not exactly AWOL) from the voting?
I'd imagine a couple of colleagues assure the officials that they definitely saw you in the lobby, and the official swallows any doubts as a favour to powerful people.
After all, the vote is won, there's no question they'd both have supported the government, so adding them to the list just saves a little embarassment.
I suspect that Morton has been added in because she was seen with Truss throughout and it looks better for both of them.
The alternative - that the voting machine fails to record votes and that it happened twice in succession (assuming they went through together) is both unlikely and concerning, for other votes. Surely it gives some sort of confirmation - like a clear beep - when the vote is recorded (like a cashless credit card, which we're all used to), and they will be using this system countless times each week.
From wiki on 'misstatements':
Because Hansard is treated as accurate, there is a parliamentary convention whereby if a member of Parliament makes an inaccurate statement in Parliament, they must write a correction in the copy of Hansard kept in the House of Commons library.
Presumably there are security cameras in the lobbies?
Her best bet now is surely to make up that she was indeed recruited by Paddy Ashdown as a sleeper agent to break up the Tory party, once and for all. Flips her in the history books from the worst PM ever to a key successful historical figure......
I wonder if this subsea cable thing was why Braveheart was in Washington yesterday?
I'm here to ramp this until Leon wakes up. 3am in Colorado.
Hmm. Do you think he'd go for Russian escalation or aliens? Given we don't expect him for a few hours, you probably have to make the call for him...
ETA: Could also be Northlink accidentally cutting the north link. Afterall, there's an awful lot of Magnus the Viking under the water and he's probably got a sharp sword/axe.
Escalation by Russian Woke Trans Illegal Immigrant Alien AIs, surely?
Russian columns leaving Kherson. Given they are well within HIMARS range, wonder if there has been a local deal done between the two sides - take your men (but not your heavy weaponry) over the river without destroying Kherson, and in turn we will not destroy you...?
Wow! What a bunch of xenophobes on the Conservative benches. Questions along the lines of "Can you assure us that the new HS will keep forriners out?"
As I'm sure you will recall I have called this tendency amongst Tories out previously. To the upset of people who had been PB Tories not of that tendency.
For an awful lot of people, Brexit was about getting shut of the foreigners of various kinds who were here taking all the jobs and claiming benefits and filling schools and hospitals.
Would appear in best interests of UKR as well as UK, to have a functioning government in Westminster ASAP.
Just when things look bleakest for Putin, the Tories are throwing him a lifeline, just like the Trump-Putinists.
Provided HMG can keep on paying the bills the crisis in the rest of the government doesn't seem to be causing any particular difficulties for the MoD or the provision of support to Ukraine by the UK.
I wouldn't want Liz Truss to be making important decisions if the Russians are cutting our subsea cables, or do vindicate Leon's wildest fears.
Wallace will see it as his duty to stay in his post and do his job.
Wow! What a bunch of xenophobes on the Conservative benches. Questions along the lines of "Can you assure us that the new HS will keep forriners out?"
As I'm sure you will recall I have called this tendency amongst Tories out previously. To the upset of people who had been PB Tories not of that tendency.
For an awful lot of people, Brexit was about getting shut of the foreigners of various kinds who were here taking all the jobs and claiming benefits and filling schools and hospitals.
I do recall you saying. Probably because I have said much the same only to be told that I am deluded (which is a big rich coming from the PB Tory extremes)
Wow! What a bunch of xenophobes on the Conservative benches. Questions along the lines of "Can you assure us that the new HS will keep forriners out?"
As I'm sure you will recall I have called this tendency amongst Tories out previously. To the upset of people who had been PB Tories not of that tendency.
For an awful lot of people, Brexit was about getting shut of the foreigners of various kinds who were here taking all the jobs and claiming benefits and filling schools and hospitals.
You'll perhaps forgive me if I don't take Bev's paraphrasing of the questions on trust?
Russian columns leaving Kherson. Given they are well within HIMARS range, wonder if there has been a local deal done between the two sides - take your men (but not your heavy weaponry) over the river without destroying Kherson, and in turn we will not destroy you...?
Would appear in best interests of UKR as well as UK, to have a functioning government in Westminster ASAP.
Just when things look bleakest for Putin, the Tories are throwing him a lifeline, just like the Trump-Putinists.
Provided HMG can keep on paying the bills the crisis in the rest of the government doesn't seem to be causing any particular difficulties for the MoD or the provision of support to Ukraine by the UK.
I wouldn't want Liz Truss to be making important decisions if the Russians are cutting our subsea cables, or do vindicate Leon's wildest fears.
Wallace will see it as his duty to stay in his post and do his job.
Liz Truss in her last (perhaps for all time?) PMQs pledged to maintain MILITARY aid to UKR at current levels (how reassuring!) but rather pointedly said NOTHING about non-military aid, which is clearly just as significant.
@NadineDorries One person was elected by the British public with a manifesto and a mandate until January ‘25. If Liz Truss is no longer PM there can be no coronation of previously failed candidates.
MPs must demand return of @BorisJohnson - if not it has to be leadership election or a GE.
It is inconceivable that we could continue to face the world parading the notion that we are a democracy.
A coronation is the transfer of power out of the hands of the people and into the offices of a few already extremely powerful men in grey suits. It would be an abomination
Deficits don't matter - Dick Cheney and Republican Party, 2003
Manifestos don't matter - Liz Truss and Conservative Party, 2022
Manifestos don't matter - the courts, in the Wheeler case. Lefties cheered then.
Manifestos don't matter in the sense that governments should not be bound by them, events change the landscape over 5 years. Of course they do matter in the sense that people who voted for you will feel let down or worse if you can't convince them of the necessity for doing the opposite of a manifesto commitment. I guess there won't be much if any fracking before the next GE so unlikely to be a massive issue on its own amongst everything else, but just adds to the out of touch and delusional angle that will bring the Tories down.
🇩🇪 Chancellor @OlafScholz : Yes! China can buy it. I am forcing through the sale of this critical infrastructure and am overruling all ministers and all German security agencies to do what the Chinese dictator wants. https://twitter.com/noclador/status/1583039861447331840
Would appear in best interests of UKR as well as UK, to have a functioning government in Westminster ASAP.
Just when things look bleakest for Putin, the Tories are throwing him a lifeline, just like the Trump-Putinists.
Provided HMG can keep on paying the bills the crisis in the rest of the government doesn't seem to be causing any particular difficulties for the MoD or the provision of support to Ukraine by the UK.
I wouldn't want Liz Truss to be making important decisions if the Russians are cutting our subsea cables, or do vindicate Leon's wildest fears.
Wallace will see it as his duty to stay in his post and do his job.
Liz Truss in her last (perhaps for all time?) PMQs pledged to maintain MILITARY aid to UKR at current levels (how reassuring!) but rather pointedly said NOTHING about non-military aid, which is clearly just as significant.
What she said is:
We must make sure that Ukraine wins. It can win, it will win, and it must win.
Your attempts to cast some doubt on her - and the UK's - support for Ukraine are laughable.
One person was elected by the British public with a manifesto and a mandate until January ‘25. If Liz Truss is no longer PM there can be no coronation of previously failed candidates.
MPs must demand return of @BorisJohnson - if not it has to be leadership election or a GE.
Russian columns leaving Kherson. Given they are well within HIMARS range, wonder if there has been a local deal done between the two sides - take your men (but not your heavy weaponry) over the river without destroying Kherson, and in turn we will not destroy you...?
Russian columns leaving Kherson. Given they are well within HIMARS range, wonder if there has been a local deal done between the two sides - take your men (but not your heavy weaponry) over the river without destroying Kherson, and in turn we will not destroy you...?
Russian columns leaving Kherson. Given they are well within HIMARS range, wonder if there has been a local deal done between the two sides - take your men (but not your heavy weaponry) over the river without destroying Kherson, and in turn we will not destroy you...?
Reports suggest that they are retreating across the dam to the east, so they aren't being targeted on the crossing itself. They are having to abandon all their heavy equipment.
🇩🇪 Chancellor @OlafScholz : Yes! China can buy it. I am forcing through the sale of this critical infrastructure and am overruling all ministers and all German security agencies to do what the Chinese dictator wants. https://twitter.com/noclador/status/1583039861447331840
There is a peculiar strain of extreme mercantilism in a part of German politics. Trade is all, and somehow thinking about strategic implications is bad….
The very first transatlantic cable, while it was being laid, was sabotaged by nails being driven through it.
Gooch and the Great Eastern's captain turned up all hands, said what had happened, and said that the cable had been repaired so they could go forward.
They also said that if they caught anyone doing that again, that person could find out how far they could swim, viz whether they could swim back to Ireland.
Strangely, they had no further trouble on that score.
Would appear in best interests of UKR as well as UK, to have a functioning government in Westminster ASAP.
Just when things look bleakest for Putin, the Tories are throwing him a lifeline, just like the Trump-Putinists.
Provided HMG can keep on paying the bills the crisis in the rest of the government doesn't seem to be causing any particular difficulties for the MoD or the provision of support to Ukraine by the UK.
I wouldn't want Liz Truss to be making important decisions if the Russians are cutting our subsea cables, or do vindicate Leon's wildest fears.
Wallace will see it as his duty to stay in his post and do his job.
Liz Truss in her last (perhaps for all time?) PMQs pledged to maintain MILITARY aid to UKR at current levels (how reassuring!) but rather pointedly said NOTHING about non-military aid, which is clearly just as significant.
What she said is:
We must make sure that Ukraine wins. It can win, it will win, and it must win.
Your attempts to cast some doubt on her - and the UK's - support for Ukraine are laughable.
Truss may THINK she's supporting the UKR, but then she likely thinks she's supporting the UK.
@NadineDorries One person was elected by the British public with a manifesto and a mandate until January ‘25. If Liz Truss is no longer PM there can be no coronation of previously failed candidates.
MPs must demand return of @BorisJohnson - if not it has to be leadership election or a GE.
It is inconceivable that we could continue to face the world parading the notion that we are a democracy.
A coronation is the transfer of power out of the hands of the people and into the offices of a few already extremely powerful men in grey suits. It would be an abomination
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Others are just pig-shit thick. Including plenty in the new intake.
July 26th
July 27th
“So there is a chance that with the right advice that she actually finds her feet and turns into a much more formidable opponent.
I don’t think it’s likely. But she’s got more chance of impressing on the upside than Sunak.“
5 September
“I think Truss will fail because I think events are too much for pretty much any PM to handle. That said, I still think she was a better choice than Sunak. A dice roll, but one the Tories probably had to make”
(Hmm… not convinced about that one now…)
6 September
“ My prediction - by October/November the narrative will be “oh didn’t we underestimate Liz, she’s doing a really good job in challenging circumstances” before it all implodes next year.”
(Obviously wrong! But at least I got the implosion right - just quicker than I ever thought possible).
He visited Crimea in 1867, over ten years AFTER the end of the Crimean War.
https://victorianweb.org/history/crimea/beck/2n1.html
"Twain himself had visited the Crimea in the summer of 1867 when he went on his first European excursion (The Innocents Abroad, Ch. 35). He had a good idea of the various battlefields, even going so far as to make a sketch of them (see Notebooks and Journals, I, 404).
For the most part, Twain emphasized he desolation, still visible many years after the war had ended. But he also spoke respectfully of the Russian defenders of Sevastopol, whose "desperate valor could not avail, and they had to give up at last." No hint here of Russians turning tail at the sight of a British regiment. Earlier on this voyage he had seen "the white-moustached old Crimean soldier Canrobert, marshal of France," on parade in Paris (Ch. 13).
As with the (alleged) Prime Minister and her (sometimes) Chief Whip? Who are now both listed as votes against the Fracking Ban motion, but last night were conspicuously absent (if not exactly AWOL) from the voting?
Ooops.
Then again, I was a Mordaunt guy. I still think she was the best option out of the lot of them.
If the only question they get asked is "are you prepared to impose the hardest of Brexits on the country regardless of the evidence and damage it would do?", then QED.
https://mobile.twitter.com/HouseofCommons/status/1583012259172741121
https://twitter.com/igorsushko/status/1582902740727959553
Neil Oliver
I mean, that was the "obvious" conclusion jumped to by some of the leading pundits on PB when the Nordstream pipeline(s) were sabotaged?
Seems that standards keep on slipping, on PB as well in UK "government".
After all, the vote is won, there's no question they'd both have supported the government, so adding them to the list just saves a little embarassment.
I suspect that Morton has been added in because she was seen with Truss throughout and it looks better for both of them.
The alternative - that the voting machine fails to record votes and that it happened twice in succession (assuming they went through together) is both unlikely and concerning, for other votes. Surely it gives some sort of confirmation - like a clear beep - when the vote is recorded (like a cashless credit card, which we're all used to), and they will be using this system countless times each week.
There were two yesterday: C4 + Peston. Rule of three.
Why you shouldn't write off Liz Truss just yet
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2022/10/20/why-shouldnt-write-liz-truss-just-yet/
https://twitter.com/TWMCLtd/status/1583031360863711232
https://twitter.com/NadineDorries/status/1583033679990861825?s=20&t=imNq-JFc5YBLkndpM1eSOg
The earliest I know of was somebody cutting all the German owned cables in the Channel in 1914.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-42367551
Were there any earlier occurrences?
How many MPs did Farage get elected to Westminster in 2019?
Rees Mogg, for example.
I wonder if it is D-Noticed (so to speak)
the main news to come out of TUC is Keir Starmer promising to rip up Tory anti-strike legislation including the 2016 Trade Union Act
https://twitter.com/PickardJE/status/1583029599415345152
Because Hansard is treated as accurate, there is a parliamentary convention whereby if a member of Parliament makes an inaccurate statement in Parliament, they must write a correction in the copy of Hansard kept in the House of Commons library.
Presumably there are security cameras in the lobbies?
The spotlight being off Boris and his non stop cavalcade of gaffes, grift and disasters is doing wonders for the polling gap.
Of course, once Truss starts up her cavalcade of disasters thing may not go as well.
Would appear in best interests of UKR as well as UK, to have a functioning government in Westminster ASAP.
Just when things look bleakest for Putin, the Tories are throwing him a lifeline, just like the Trump-Putinists.
Manifestos don't matter - Liz Truss and Conservative Party, 2022
Who the hell do they think they are being loyal towards? Supine twats....
For an awful lot of people, Brexit was about getting shut of the foreigners of various kinds who were here taking all the jobs and claiming benefits and filling schools and hospitals.
I wouldn't want Liz Truss to be making important decisions if the Russians are cutting our subsea cables, or do vindicate Leon's wildest fears.
Wallace will see it as his duty to stay in his post and do his job.
Telling the Ukrainians that they're using Ukraine's own citizens as a human shield, so that Ukrainian forces won't shoot at them.
I've layed that a bit.
One person was elected by the British public with a manifesto and a mandate until January ‘25.
If Liz Truss is no longer PM there can be no coronation of previously failed candidates.
MPs must demand return of @BorisJohnson - if not it has to be leadership election or a GE.
It is inconceivable that we could continue to face the world parading the notion that we are a democracy.
A coronation is the transfer of power out of the hands of the people and into the offices of a few already extremely powerful men in grey suits. It would be an abomination
https://twitter.com/NadineDorries/status/1583033679990861825
Treason!!
🇨🇳 China: We want to buy part of the port of Hamburg.
🇩🇪 Economic Ministry: No!
🇩🇪 Interior Ministry: No!
🇩🇪 Defense Ministry: No!
🇩🇪 Foreign Ministry: No!
🇩🇪 Finance Ministry: No!
🇩🇪 Transport Ministry: No!
🇩🇪 Intelligence Agency: No!
🇩🇪 Counterintelligence Agency: No!
🇪🇺 EU Commission: No!
🇩🇪 Chancellor @OlafScholz : Yes! China can buy it. I am forcing through the sale of this critical infrastructure and am overruling all ministers and all German security agencies to do what the Chinese dictator wants.
https://twitter.com/noclador/status/1583039861447331840
We must make sure that Ukraine wins. It can win, it will win, and it must win.
Your attempts to cast some doubt on her - and the UK's - support for Ukraine are laughable.
(((Dan Hodges)))
@DPJHodges
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Seems to finally be a degree of coordination here.
If Liz Truss is no longer PM there can be no coronation of previously failed candidates.
MPs must demand return of @BorisJohnson - if not it has to be leadership election or a GE.
https://twitter.com/NadineDorries/status/1583033679990861825?s=20&t=udtAEqEsbG7NP2NMSPkGVQ
https://twitter.com/DutchNewchurch/status/1583035259922567168
You don't need to turn people into active, knowing traitors to turn them into "useful idiots".
Yet again, you prove yourself to be a twister of truly epic proportions.
Gooch and the Great Eastern's captain turned up all hands, said what had happened, and said that the cable had been repaired so they could go forward.
They also said that if they caught anyone doing that again, that person could find out how far they could swim, viz whether they could swim back to Ireland.
Strangely, they had no further trouble on that score.
Or is this just a "frighten the horses" variation using a GE rather than the Farage bogeyman.