Incidentally has Reeves or Starmer actually discussed with the Teaching Hospitals how they double the number of Medical Students? It would be quite a building programme, and I am not convinced there are enough candidates of the right calibre. At present 75% of applicants are successful, albeit many on their second application.
Finally, I think 'Great British Energy', in public ownership, is a big winner.
Yes it will be
I’m not keen. State competing with private simply won’t work well.
It will be popular though. I'd rather we went all in and grabbed hold of 100% of our needs in energy and food. Fuck globalism, its over
Globalism isn’t over. It’s only just begun.
It’s also unbeatable.
Populism will defeat globalism. Watch this space.
Not If moderatism defeates populism first.
This winter will do for moderatism. Also watch this space.
i honestly think the only chance for the conservatives now as the economy is screwed is to go full on bnp lite to get the red wall votes...start talking about things like an immigration freeze..fight a full on culture wars battle
Sounds like an excellent way of losing seats in the South to the Lib Dems.
As well as making an even bigger disaster for the economy than they're already doing - though that scarcely seems possible.
Finally, I think 'Great British Energy', in public ownership, is a big winner.
Yes it will be
I’m not keen. State competing with private simply won’t work well.
It will be popular though. I'd rather we went all in and grabbed hold of 100% of our needs in energy and food. Fuck globalism, its over
Globalism isn’t over. It’s only just begun.
It’s also unbeatable.
Populism will defeat globalism. Watch this space.
Not If moderatism defeates populism first.
This winter will do for moderatism. Also watch this space.
i honestly think the only chance for the conservatives now as the economy is screwed is to go full on bnp lite to get the red wall votes...start talking about things like an immigration freeze..fight a full on culture wars battle
You can only do that from opposition because the inevitable response from voters who want those things is "well you're in power, do something about it".
Finally, I think 'Great British Energy', in public ownership, is a big winner.
Yes it will be
I’m not keen. State competing with private simply won’t work well.
It will be popular though. I'd rather we went all in and grabbed hold of 100% of our needs in energy and food. Fuck globalism, its over
Globalism isn’t over. It’s only just begun.
It’s also unbeatable.
Populism will defeat globalism. Watch this space.
Not If moderatism defeates populism first.
This winter will do for moderatism. Also watch this space.
i honestly think the only chance for the conservatives now as the economy is screwed is to go full on bnp lite to get the red wall votes...start talking about things like an immigration freeze..fight a full on culture wars battle
"BNP-lite"?? What - only a mild form of fascism? As opposed to the full blown deportation of undesirables and execution of hard cases?
Could you define "BNP Lite"? Does it only involve prisons? Hard labour? Punishment beatings?
My betting decision of the day is not to top up on lab majority. Sks is not looking like Ed mil, but he could be a Cameron looking like an easy winner but having to settle for a lib dem fudge
Well, he does need a Blair '97-scale swing to achieve a majority of one, so a Hung Parliament still seems the most likely outcome. Besides which, despite the Tories' awful polling performances, we have to remember that (accounting for the relative probability of different age groups actually bothering to cast a vote,) the over 55s constitute over half of the entire electorate, and they're likely to keep breaking heavily for the Conservatives. That should be enough to keep the Tories in the game even if they're so badly mauled amongst younger cohorts that their Parliamentary majority is erased.
Indeed, it's arguable that the ideal scenario for the next GE would be one in which the Conservatives end up as the largest single party, Labour has to rely on both the SNP and the Liberal Democrats for support, and Starmer ends up being dragged kicking and screaming into legislating for electoral reform. A broadly proportional voting system would probably prevent the Conservative Party from ever winning a majority again, and would make it hard for it to return to power full stop for so long as it represents the interests of multi-millionaires, elderly homeowners and no-one else.
It would also make it near impossible for Labour to ever win a majority again or for a government implementing socialism to get a majority again, even Attlee in 1945, Wilson in 1966 or Blair in 1997 would have failed to get a majority with PR.
The LDs would normally be kingmakers, as 2010 showed they can go with the Tories as much as Labour. A Corbyn Left Party would emerge with seats which Labour would need to do deals with along with the Greens to have any hope of government and a Farage Nationalist party too would also win seats with which the Tories would also eventually have to probably do deals
Do you mean, young HY, that politicians would actually have to start thinking for themselves about the policies that they intend to support, and explain and justify their real intentions to the electors in order to have to win over their support? This would lead to the fragmentation of political parties as we know them, and obviously to the collapse of civilization.
It would mean nothing of the sort - the politicians would just go off into a room with no press to decide the makeup of the government with no reference to the opinions of the people.
It's a problem, to be sure, but is it really worse than what we've just experienced in the UK?
Finally, I think 'Great British Energy', in public ownership, is a big winner.
Yes it will be
I’m not keen. State competing with private simply won’t work well.
It will be popular though. I'd rather we went all in and grabbed hold of 100% of our needs in energy and food. Fuck globalism, its over
Globalism isn’t over. It’s only just begun.
It’s also unbeatable.
Populism will defeat globalism. Watch this space.
Not If moderatism defeates populism first.
This winter will do for moderatism. Also watch this space.
i honestly think the only chance for the conservatives now as the economy is screwed is to go full on bnp lite to get the red wall votes...start talking about things like an immigration freeze..fight a full on culture wars battle
If the Tories were to even hint at going BNP anything, I wouldn't just stop voting for them, I'd actively campaign for Labour!
Finally, I think 'Great British Energy', in public ownership, is a big winner.
Yes it will be
I’m not keen. State competing with private simply won’t work well.
It will be popular though. I'd rather we went all in and grabbed hold of 100% of our needs in energy and food. Fuck globalism, its over
Globalism isn’t over. It’s only just begun.
It’s also unbeatable.
Populism will defeat globalism. Watch this space.
Not If moderatism defeates populism first.
This winter will do for moderatism. Also watch this space.
i honestly think the only chance for the conservatives now as the economy is screwed is to go full on bnp lite to get the red wall votes...start talking about things like an immigration freeze..fight a full on culture wars battle
Yes, if not there is scope for a red wall friendly populist movement to really grab the long term trend away from Labour there. But they need to get motivated and organised now
They’ve not shown any great inclination or effort to really understand or tune into the dynamics of the red wall or build upon that voter base (one of the greatest party political failings of the Tories in the past 3 years - and Liz is even less convincing than BoJo and Rishi on that front) so good luck with that…
Kherson Oblast - 97.47% Zaporozhye Oblast - 98% Donetsk Oblast - 98.05% Luhansk Oblast - 97.79%
I really don't understand why they don't make the results even slightly believable. Has 97% ever been achieved in any fair referendum? Maybe something like 52-48 would work?
It's performative. The point is not to convince; quite the opposite. It's about demonstrating power and the hopelessness of resistance.
Of course getting their arses kicked by Ukraine's army rather goes against the narrative.
I see according to some in Labour I'm superficially a brown man.
Magnificent.
"Culturally white" is the most recent one I've had said to/about me. From a self appointed "anti-racist" too. Wankers.
Polite way of saying coconut isn't it?
Wankers indeed.
I was going to say that it's surprising that some people, otherwise being against racism, still think (correctly) that they can get away with such things, but I'm really not surprised at all.
It's not hard to not do. Yes, apologies will get made, as in this case, which is about all that can be demanded I guess, but such comment is not made in the heat of the moment, its considered and deliberate, so whilst apologies have to be made it's generally pretty clear what the genuine feeling is.
And it gives cover to more 'overt' racism to boot. Fantastic.
But then I say that as a white man on behalf of non whites everywhere.
I'm not surprised - the comments were ill-judged but not racist imo.
Compare and contrast with some of Boris Johnson's utterances.
In what world is it not racist to say black men shouldn't go to private school or work in banking?! It's literally stereotyping them. She's a racist moron, glad to see Starmer take it seriously.
She doesn't actually say that but do I take your point. She is falling back on lazy stereotypes, racist and classist.
I agree with Starmer's action and it's good if, as reported, she's apologised.
She is essentially saying that some one is not genuinely black if they come from a wealthy background and that they should not speak with an RP accent. What does that actually say? It says that black people should never have such aspirations, or maybe that they are not good enough to send their children to top independent schools.
It is actually fucking outrageous An apology is not enough. She should have the whip removed
She has
And yet I see that you thought what she said was "not racist" in your opinion? How is it she is allowed a free pass?
Finally, I think 'Great British Energy', in public ownership, is a big winner.
Yes it will be
I’m not keen. State competing with private simply won’t work well.
It will be popular though. I'd rather we went all in and grabbed hold of 100% of our needs in energy and food. Fuck globalism, its over
Globalism isn’t over. It’s only just begun.
It’s also unbeatable.
Populism will defeat globalism. Watch this space.
Not If moderatism defeates populism first.
This winter will do for moderatism. Also watch this space.
i honestly think the only chance for the conservatives now as the economy is screwed is to go full on bnp lite to get the red wall votes...start talking about things like an immigration freeze..fight a full on culture wars battle
Except the Trussticle just opened the taps for more immigration, most of which now comes from Africa, Middle East and Subcontinent. All fine places of course, but a problem for anyone wanting culture war.
Finally, I think 'Great British Energy', in public ownership, is a big winner.
Yes it will be
I’m not keen. State competing with private simply won’t work well.
It will be popular though. I'd rather we went all in and grabbed hold of 100% of our needs in energy and food. Fuck globalism, its over
Globalism isn’t over. It’s only just begun.
It’s also unbeatable.
Populism will defeat globalism. Watch this space.
Not If moderatism defeates populism first.
This winter will do for moderatism. Also watch this space.
i honestly think the only chance for the conservatives now as the economy is screwed is to go full on bnp lite to get the red wall votes...start talking about things like an immigration freeze..fight a full on culture wars battle
Except the Trussticle just opened the taps for more immigration, most of which now comes from Africa, Middle East and Subcontinent. All fine places of course, but a problem for anyone wanting culture war.
Nothing wrong with that in my eyes. Any problem with that in yours?
Kherson Oblast - 97.47% Zaporozhye Oblast - 98% Donetsk Oblast - 98.05% Luhansk Oblast - 97.79%
why the clustering around 98% couldnt they throw in a 95% somewhere
What is it with dictatorial regimes and thinking that 100% is too obviously a fix, but 96% is far too tight to permit? Even going door to door with gunmen you'd find at least 5% of people stubborn enough to say no.
Unless its a small town only, nothing should ever get above 95%.
As NigelB says it is clearly performative, in that not even they will believe it, but they can make people say they believe it.
Finally, I think 'Great British Energy', in public ownership, is a big winner.
Yes it will be
I’m not keen. State competing with private simply won’t work well.
It will be popular though. I'd rather we went all in and grabbed hold of 100% of our needs in energy and food. Fuck globalism, its over
Globalism isn’t over. It’s only just begun.
It’s also unbeatable.
Populism will defeat globalism. Watch this space.
Not If moderatism defeates populism first.
This winter will do for moderatism. Also watch this space.
i honestly think the only chance for the conservatives now as the economy is screwed is to go full on bnp lite to get the red wall votes...start talking about things like an immigration freeze..fight a full on culture wars battle
"BNP-lite"?? What - only a mild form of fascism? As opposed to the full blown deportation of undesirables and execution of hard cases?
Could you define "BNP Lite"? Does it only involve prisons? Hard labour? Punishment beatings?
She exhibited the worst kind of racism: an assumption that those with certain skin colour should behave in a certain way.
Sure she has been stupidly racist but not sure how it can possibly be the worst form of racism. Slavery or lynching for example are certainly worse.....
The one assumption underpins the other.
Not really. Her racist assumption is all people from a group should think the same way. Slavery or lynching are based on other groups being either a threat and/or sub human. It would be a very long journey from her lazy stereotyping to get to a mindset of justifying lynching.
Dead wrong, Emmett Till was murdered for behaving in a certain way inappropriate to his skin colour. Nobody thought he was a threat.
"Although the practice of lynching had existed since before slavery, it gained momentum duringReconstruction, when viable black towns sprang up across the South and African Americans began to make political and economic inroads by registering to vote, establishing businesses and running for public office. Many whites—landowners and poor whites—felt threatened by this rise in black prominence."
Someone bothered to write an article claiming they felt threatened. It was part of it, not all, but a part. Anyway, its a silly discussion to get into further.
What she said was wrong, racist and stupid and she has been rightly sacked. No loss to the Labour party or political society either.
Finally, I think 'Great British Energy', in public ownership, is a big winner.
Yes it will be
I’m not keen. State competing with private simply won’t work well.
It will be popular though. I'd rather we went all in and grabbed hold of 100% of our needs in energy and food. Fuck globalism, its over
Globalism isn’t over. It’s only just begun.
It’s also unbeatable.
Populism will defeat globalism. Watch this space.
Not If moderatism defeates populism first.
This winter will do for moderatism. Also watch this space.
i honestly think the only chance for the conservatives now as the economy is screwed is to go full on bnp lite to get the red wall votes...start talking about things like an immigration freeze..fight a full on culture wars battle
Yes, if not there is scope for a red wall friendly populist movement to really grab the long term trend away from Labour there. But they need to get motivated and organised now
They’ve not shown any great inclination or effort to really understand or tune into the dynamics of the red wall or build upon that voter base (one of the greatest party political failings of the Tories in the past 3 years - and Liz is even less convincing than BoJo and Rishi on that front) so good luck with that…
Whuch is why i said there is scope for a red wall friendly populist movement. The red wall is leaving labour, has been for nearly 20 years, somebody can cash in if the Tories are too thick to
Finally, I think 'Great British Energy', in public ownership, is a big winner.
Yes it will be
I’m not keen. State competing with private simply won’t work well.
It will be popular though. I'd rather we went all in and grabbed hold of 100% of our needs in energy and food. Fuck globalism, its over
Globalism isn’t over. It’s only just begun.
It’s also unbeatable.
Populism will defeat globalism. Watch this space.
Not If moderatism defeates populism first.
This winter will do for moderatism. Also watch this space.
i honestly think the only chance for the conservatives now as the economy is screwed is to go full on bnp lite to get the red wall votes...start talking about things like an immigration freeze..fight a full on culture wars battle
Except the Trussticle just opened the taps for more immigration, most of which now comes from Africa, Middle East and Subcontinent. All fine places of course, but a problem for anyone wanting culture war.
Nothing wrong with that in my eyes. Any problem with that in yours?
As I said, all fine places.
Not ideal from the BNP-Lite point of view, but that isn't my political position. I am anti-fascist.
Finally, I think 'Great British Energy', in public ownership, is a big winner.
Yes it will be
I’m not keen. State competing with private simply won’t work well.
It will be popular though. I'd rather we went all in and grabbed hold of 100% of our needs in energy and food. Fuck globalism, its over
Globalism isn’t over. It’s only just begun.
It’s also unbeatable.
Populism will defeat globalism. Watch this space.
Not If moderatism defeates populism first.
This winter will do for moderatism. Also watch this space.
i honestly think the only chance for the conservatives now as the economy is screwed is to go full on bnp lite to get the red wall votes...start talking about things like an immigration freeze..fight a full on culture wars battle
Yes, if not there is scope for a red wall friendly populist movement to really grab the long term trend away from Labour there. But they need to get motivated and organised now
They’ve not shown any great inclination or effort to really understand or tune into the dynamics of the red wall or build upon that voter base (one of the greatest party political failings of the Tories in the past 3 years - and Liz is even less convincing than BoJo and Rishi on that front) so good luck with that…
Whuch is why i said there is scope for a red wall friendly populist movement. The red wall is leaving labour, has been for nearly 20 years, somebody can cash in if the Tories are too thick to
The idea that the red wall is full of racists is one of the most depressing and appalling ideas mooted here. Its really not.
The red wall is seats where people increasingly own their own home and transport, have aspiration and meet typical concerns for voting Tory, its not some morass of bigoted hicks.
I see according to some in Labour I'm superficially a brown man.
You mean a Labour MP accused a particular black man of being "superficially black", and was immediately suspended by the party.
Whatever you are, you're not even superficially honest.
She accused a particular black man of being superficially black on the basis of his education, profession and political views, which would, whatever her intent, apply to a very wide array of other people.
Given her reasoning, there's no way it could not apply to a lot of other people.
Kherson Oblast - 97.47% Zaporozhye Oblast - 98% Donetsk Oblast - 98.05% Luhansk Oblast - 97.79%
why the clustering around 98% couldnt they throw in a 95% somewhere
What is it with dictatorial regimes and thinking that 100% is too obviously a fix, but 96% is far too tight to permit? Even going door to door with gunmen you'd gind at least 5% of people stubborn enough to say no.
Unless its a small town only, nothing should ever get above 95%.
As NigelB says it is clearly performative, in that not even they will believe it, but they can make people say they believe it.
Fear of consequences. the returning officer for Kherson Oblast is shitting himself he is going to be enlisted or sent to Kamchatka for his pathetic underperformance.
I see according to some in Labour I'm superficially a brown man.
Magnificent.
"Culturally white" is the most recent one I've had said to/about me. From a self appointed "anti-racist" too. Wankers.
Polite way of saying coconut isn't it?
Wankers indeed.
I was going to say that it's surprising that some people, otherwise being against racism, still think (correctly) that they can get away with such things, but I'm really not surprised at all.
It's not hard to not do. Yes, apologies will get made, as in this case, which is about all that can be demanded I guess, but such comment is not made in the heat of the moment, its considered and deliberate, so whilst apologies have to be made it's generally pretty clear what the genuine feeling is.
And it gives cover to more 'overt' racism to boot. Fantastic.
But then I say that as a white man on behalf of non whites everywhere.
It is amusing, recently I had to listen a non racist white person tell me that it seems like I'm betraying my cultures and people by only ever being in relationships with white people.
It's the kind of logic the National Front espouse.
Dem donors are so fucking stupid. They have given more money to Flowers for a congressional seat he will lose by 30 points minimum than they have to two knife edge Senate races in Wisconsin and North Carolina.
Genuine fucking idiots (all though fair play to Flowers for running the grift so well)
Incidentally has Reeves or Starmer actually discussed with the Teaching Hospitals how they double the number of Medical Students? It would be quite a building programme, and I am not convinced there are enough candidates of the right calibre. At present 75% of applicants are successful, albeit many on their second application.
75% doesn't sound right to me? I've seen 17% success rate online, even with second applications that seems unlikely.
Finally, I think 'Great British Energy', in public ownership, is a big winner.
Yes it will be
I’m not keen. State competing with private simply won’t work well.
It will be popular though. I'd rather we went all in and grabbed hold of 100% of our needs in energy and food. Fuck globalism, its over
Globalism isn’t over. It’s only just begun.
It’s also unbeatable.
Populism will defeat globalism. Watch this space.
Not If moderatism defeates populism first.
This winter will do for moderatism. Also watch this space.
i honestly think the only chance for the conservatives now as the economy is screwed is to go full on bnp lite to get the red wall votes...start talking about things like an immigration freeze..fight a full on culture wars battle
Except the Trussticle just opened the taps for more immigration, most of which now comes from Africa, Middle East and Subcontinent. All fine places of course, but a problem for anyone wanting culture war.
Nothing wrong with that in my eyes. Any problem with that in yours?
Aggressive, Bart. I have told you before, decaf only after 1 pm.
They will come over here, take our jobs and make our women pregnant.
I think Greek/Italian bonds are currently where they are because the market expects that the ECB will treat the Russian invasion / energy crisis, like they did the Eurozone crisis and the pandemic crisis. Basically: their view is that the ECB will always find a crisis to justify intervention.
There may be implications he said, as the euro traded significantly below 96 US cents.
The Fed is keeping up the pressure, The BoE will almost certainly respond. What will the ECB do? how far can it go in terms of rates? They are looking at a recession as it is.
While Germany avoided a down quarter (just) in 2Q, I think 3Q and 4Q are almost certainly going to be recessionary, as they are being hit by both high energy prices and by supply chain disruptions that affect the production of autos. I would also expect Italy and Benelux to enter recession sooner, rather than later.
Spain and Portugal have fewer energy issues: they've both got lots of wind and solar, and have entered into long term gas supply contracts. They also had a fabulous Summer 2022 as holidaying returned in Europe. More of an issue will be Summer 2023 for them: but that's a long way away.
France is touch-and-go. I think they'll do better than Germany, but worse than Iberia.
I see according to some in Labour I'm superficially a brown man.
Magnificent.
"Culturally white" is the most recent one I've had said to/about me. From a self appointed "anti-racist" too. Wankers.
Polite way of saying coconut isn't it?
Wankers indeed.
I was going to say that it's surprising that some people, otherwise being against racism, still think (correctly) that they can get away with such things, but I'm really not surprised at all.
It's not hard to not do. Yes, apologies will get made, as in this case, which is about all that can be demanded I guess, but such comment is not made in the heat of the moment, its considered and deliberate, so whilst apologies have to be made it's generally pretty clear what the genuine feeling is.
And it gives cover to more 'overt' racism to boot. Fantastic.
But then I say that as a white man on behalf of non whites everywhere.
It is amusing, recently I had to listen a non racist white person tell me that it seems like I'm betraying my cultures and people by only ever being in relationships with white people.
It's the kind of logic the National Front espouse.
Probably internalising whiteness or something something I'm not a racist I swear.
Finally, I think 'Great British Energy', in public ownership, is a big winner.
Yes it will be
I’m not keen. State competing with private simply won’t work well.
It will be popular though. I'd rather we went all in and grabbed hold of 100% of our needs in energy and food. Fuck globalism, its over
Globalism isn’t over. It’s only just begun.
It’s also unbeatable.
Populism will defeat globalism. Watch this space.
Not If moderatism defeates populism first.
This winter will do for moderatism. Also watch this space.
i honestly think the only chance for the conservatives now as the economy is screwed is to go full on bnp lite to get the red wall votes...start talking about things like an immigration freeze..fight a full on culture wars battle
Except the Trussticle just opened the taps for more immigration, most of which now comes from Africa, Middle East and Subcontinent. All fine places of course, but a problem for anyone wanting culture war.
Nothing wrong with that in my eyes. Any problem with that in yours?
Aggressive, Bart. I have told you before, decaf only after 1 pm.
They will come over here, take our jobs and make our women pregnant.
That's aggressive? Asking someone if they see a problem?
Jeez I knew Malcolm had left, but I didn't realise the bar on aggressiveness had been moved that low now.
Kherson Oblast - 97.47% Zaporozhye Oblast - 98% Donetsk Oblast - 98.05% Luhansk Oblast - 97.79%
why the clustering around 98% couldnt they throw in a 95% somewhere
What is it with dictatorial regimes and thinking that 100% is too obviously a fix, but 96% is far too tight to permit? Even going door to door with gunmen you'd gind at least 5% of people stubborn enough to say no.
Unless its a small town only, nothing should ever get above 95%.
As NigelB says it is clearly performative, in that not even they will believe it, but they can make people say they believe it.
Fear of consequences. the returning officer for Kherson Oblast is shitting himself he is going to be enlisted or sent to Kamchatka for his pathetic underperformance.
I am, in a way, genuinely curious at the particularly methodology of faking elections. When to ballot stuff, when to intimidate non supporters, when to just make the whole thing up. And how to come up with the precise figures?
It is said Russia has to keep pumping gas to prevent water getting into the NS1/2 pipes. Why can't they pump air in instead? Anyone know - @rcs1000, @Malmesbury, @Richard_Tyndall, other techies?
Good question.
Tbf how do we know that are not pumping in air?
Good question. Try a match? Tho a spectrometer could be safer.
I worked in LNG planning a long time ago. Natural gas pipe lines not so much.
That being said, gas is pumped under very considerable pressure. Adding air to the mix against a back pressure of water inflowing into the pipe could produce an explosive mix under high pressure.
Incidentally has Reeves or Starmer actually discussed with the Teaching Hospitals how they double the number of Medical Students? It would be quite a building programme, and I am not convinced there are enough candidates of the right calibre. At present 75% of applicants are successful, albeit many on their second application.
Seeing as many of them will end up as GPs I think 3 Es at A-level should be an adequate pass rate, or perhaps an apprentice scheme might suffice.
Finally, I think 'Great British Energy', in public ownership, is a big winner.
Yes it will be
I’m not keen. State competing with private simply won’t work well.
It will be popular though. I'd rather we went all in and grabbed hold of 100% of our needs in energy and food. Fuck globalism, its over
Globalism isn’t over. It’s only just begun.
It’s also unbeatable.
Populism will defeat globalism. Watch this space.
Not If moderatism defeates populism first.
This winter will do for moderatism. Also watch this space.
i honestly think the only chance for the conservatives now as the economy is screwed is to go full on bnp lite to get the red wall votes...start talking about things like an immigration freeze..fight a full on culture wars battle
Yes, if not there is scope for a red wall friendly populist movement to really grab the long term trend away from Labour there. But they need to get motivated and organised now
They’ve not shown any great inclination or effort to really understand or tune into the dynamics of the red wall or build upon that voter base (one of the greatest party political failings of the Tories in the past 3 years - and Liz is even less convincing than BoJo and Rishi on that front) so good luck with that…
Whuch is why i said there is scope for a red wall friendly populist movement. The red wall is leaving labour, has been for nearly 20 years, somebody can cash in if the Tories are too thick to
The idea that the red wall is full of racists is one of the most depressing and appalling ideas mooted here. Its really not.
The red wall is seats where people increasingly own their own home and transport, have aspiration and meet typical concerns for voting Tory, its not some morass of bigoted hicks.
It is engaged by populist ideas - 'getting brexit done' was the example in 2019, levelling up is the current one that they want but are not seeing. Its the area that alongside Wales most heavily bought in to UKIP firstly then BXP. Populust movements. Its got nothing to do with racism. And yes, much of it demographically is shifting Tory or was what should have been more traditionally Tory but for the class/mining etc divides of earlier times. There is scope to crush Labour in these areas if the right offer is made.
Need to correct that. Tottenham Tories. Not a Councillor - they don't have any.
Quite interesting to see their comparisons for the LTNs - pass laws, Belfast duriung the Troubles ...
The cluelessness is encouraging, in that they will lose through having no meaningful case.
Of course - I'd forgotten you are very keen on urban cycling. Quite. I see 'ghetto' is also used. And it doesn't help that in their historical comparisons the wealthy folk tooling around in big cars were, erm, one colour/race/whatever, and the poor, another ... astounding stuff to come out with in London of all places.
I'm also quite pleased that the Duke of Norfolk got a totting-up driving ban the other day for going through lights on red because he was distracted by using his mobile phone (the new drunk driving - similar penalties required) and did not even look properly. The silly old bugger could have killed someone far too easily.
I've never heard so many weasel words to try and avoid it.
London doing better now - in some places they have moved forward to nearly properly segregated cycleways, which is about the third iteration in 15 years. Chiswick latest (computo pic). Still too narrow and priorities / junctions need work within the wide High Road corridor, but on the way. I lived there for a few years and it was like a motorway.
Government after government has failed to do nearly enough about the supply side of the British economy. Reams have been written, far more eloquently than I can manage, about how this inaction has trapped us, time and time again, into choices we don’t want to have to make, on public services and elsewhere. It has trapped us into falling ever further behind America in our living standards. And it has nudged us into accepting relative decline as the norm and the future of Britain.
Until now, nobody has truly dared tackle this head-on. But we have finally found a PM and chancellor willing to do so. And yet for whatever reason — perhaps simply because we cannot get our heads around the reorganisation they have in mind — we are risking making it politically impossible before they have even begun to try.
That, at least, is a load of waffle just because there were no supply side reforms, just a bunch of tax cuts which will push up demand.
I'm all in favour of supply side reforms and pushing up business investment, there's was very little in the Friday statement that actually achieves any supply side fix.
He does address that if you read the whole piece:
This is a long list, and even then it is only really a start on the work that the economy needs. It is also vague: it equivocates about the most important supply-side reform of all — housing reform — promising merely that more detail will be announced soon.
But it is a start. And if it is implemented properly (and followed up with more), it would allow Kwarteng’s plan to succeed, and with it, bring to end the awful bind that British policymaking has been stuck in since 2008.
The plan is therefore a do-or-die moment.
To commit to the Growth Plan’s tax-and-spend decisions without the structural reforms to go along with them would be a disaster. It would represent the worst of the status quo, but with a new layer of ‘bad’ added on top.
And there are lots of reasons for pessimism. Getting a supply-side reform through Parliament is much more difficult than doing new spending, especially with special interest groups doing their absolute utmost to block progress. Truss is already light on political capital, given how few MPs originally voted for her, and the response to our currency trouble will only have made that worse. Worst of all, there is very little time: it is less than two years until a general election.
Which is why it's waffle. The writer is just projecting onto Kwasi what he wants to happen. There's been no detail or moves to boost supply just vague ideas and ambitions. What we actually have is a series of tax cuts which are intended to boost demand. Rather than defending them based on something he hopes they will do in the future, they need to be chastised for not doing what is necessary to reform the economy by boosting supply (and investment).
The Friday event, when you take it for the actual measures and exclude all of the guff, is aimed at producing a short term gain in demand by borrowing loads of money. In a high inflation environment it's going to cause interest rates to shoot up and the currency to tank, unsurprisingly that's what has happened.
When you take in the actual measures and exclude all of the guff, almost all of what happened was pre-announced and the 45p changes "cost" £2 billion supposedly, but the real cost to the Exchequer will of course be far less than that and may even by negative.
So the hysteria that has followed is just ridiculous. Yes you are completely right that the vague ideas and ambitions need meat on the bones to follow through with, I totally agree with you on that, but at least they're targeting the right issues and saying the right things even if its not yet in action. They need to follow through with credible actions on reforms, but those are things that aren't simply announced in a statement.
No, they aren't targeting the right issues because they haven't done anything. What they have done is borrow £45bn to increase demand which is targeting the wrong issues.
They might be saying the right things but then they're doing the exact opposite and you're falling for it.
But that £45bn is predominantly to reverse the NI Tax Rise and the Corporation Tax rise, both of which you and I both vehemently disagreed with at the time they were announced. Only £2bn, if that, relates to the 45p tax change but you're acting as if the entire £45bn has gone on that.
I had a look at the evidence of the corporation tax rise and I changed my position. We've had chronically low business investment for over a decade and our model if low CT has resulted in low investment by businesses who prefer to pay dividends rather than chase capital growth which is taxed at a higher rate. Worse still major UK companies are no longer majority domestically owned so the payouts are draining overseas and tax isn't payable.
CT of 30% and a series of big investment allowances on capital and R&D to bring that number down makes much more sense to me.
On NI they went further by keeping the higher threshold, it was the right thing to do but it isn't cost free.
The reason I'm so annoyed by cutting the additional rate is it shows the government has got the wrong priorities. That is a purely demand generation play, it puts tens of thousands in the hands of already pretty well of people hoping they will spend it and the lower tax rate will attract a few thousand extra workers who will also come and spend their money here.
Nowhere in the statement did they show that they were interested in boosting supply or putting in place real reform of education, training, skills and investment in capital to boost supply.
It's bizarre. So called "supply side" economics originating in the US with Reagan was basically borrowing money and cutting taxes, too.
Finally, I think 'Great British Energy', in public ownership, is a big winner.
Yes it will be
I’m not keen. State competing with private simply won’t work well.
It will be popular though. I'd rather we went all in and grabbed hold of 100% of our needs in energy and food. Fuck globalism, its over
Globalism isn’t over. It’s only just begun.
It’s also unbeatable.
Populism will defeat globalism. Watch this space.
Not If moderatism defeates populism first.
This winter will do for moderatism. Also watch this space.
i honestly think the only chance for the conservatives now as the economy is screwed is to go full on bnp lite to get the red wall votes...start talking about things like an immigration freeze..fight a full on culture wars battle
Except the Trussticle just opened the taps for more immigration, most of which now comes from Africa, Middle East and Subcontinent. All fine places of course, but a problem for anyone wanting culture war.
Nothing wrong with that in my eyes. Any problem with that in yours?
Aggressive, Bart. I have told you before, decaf only after 1 pm.
They will come over here, take our jobs and make our women pregnant.
That's aggressive? Asking someone if they see a problem?
Jeez I knew Malcolm had left, but I didn't realise the bar on aggressiveness had been moved that low now.
"You got a problem with that?" is fighting talk, yes.
She exhibited the worst kind of racism: an assumption that those with certain skin colour should behave in a certain way.
Sure she has been stupidly racist but not sure how it can possibly be the worst form of racism. Slavery or lynching for example are certainly worse.....
There's nothing intrinsically racist about slavery, so long as you are willing enslave people of all ethnic and religious backgrounds.
Finally, I think 'Great British Energy', in public ownership, is a big winner.
Yes it will be
I’m not keen. State competing with private simply won’t work well.
It will be popular though. I'd rather we went all in and grabbed hold of 100% of our needs in energy and food. Fuck globalism, its over
Globalism isn’t over. It’s only just begun.
It’s also unbeatable.
Populism will defeat globalism. Watch this space.
Not If moderatism defeates populism first.
This winter will do for moderatism. Also watch this space.
i honestly think the only chance for the conservatives now as the economy is screwed is to go full on bnp lite to get the red wall votes...start talking about things like an immigration freeze..fight a full on culture wars battle
Yes, if not there is scope for a red wall friendly populist movement to really grab the long term trend away from Labour there. But they need to get motivated and organised now
They’ve not shown any great inclination or effort to really understand or tune into the dynamics of the red wall or build upon that voter base (one of the greatest party political failings of the Tories in the past 3 years - and Liz is even less convincing than BoJo and Rishi on that front) so good luck with that…
Whuch is why i said there is scope for a red wall friendly populist movement. The red wall is leaving labour, has been for nearly 20 years, somebody can cash in if the Tories are too thick to
The idea that the red wall is full of racists is one of the most depressing and appalling ideas mooted here. Its really not.
The red wall is seats where people increasingly own their own home and transport, have aspiration and meet typical concerns for voting Tory, its not some morass of bigoted hicks.
One thing that has been worrying me today and yesterday is that a loss of confidence in the UK will eventually lead to the City turning into a shadow of what it is today. One of the major reasons so many investors and banks are happy to do their business here is because the UK has, historically, had a very stable government and economic outlook. This band of idiots has put all of that hard won credibility at risk and if it continues investors will start moving their money elsewhere and that means banks and jobs will follow.
I think you're just going through a bout of general pessimism and it's skewing your judgment.
I think you're just going through a bout of general denial and it's skewing your judgement.
You seem to think I'm a partisan Tory which shows how little you understand my perspective.
I'm just judging from the content and cherry-picking of your posts.
Plus the smugness you show by accusing those who disagree with you of lacking understanding = to dumb to comprehend your "perspective".
Government after government has failed to do nearly enough about the supply side of the British economy. Reams have been written, far more eloquently than I can manage, about how this inaction has trapped us, time and time again, into choices we don’t want to have to make, on public services and elsewhere. It has trapped us into falling ever further behind America in our living standards. And it has nudged us into accepting relative decline as the norm and the future of Britain.
Until now, nobody has truly dared tackle this head-on. But we have finally found a PM and chancellor willing to do so. And yet for whatever reason — perhaps simply because we cannot get our heads around the reorganisation they have in mind — we are risking making it politically impossible before they have even begun to try.
That, at least, is a load of waffle just because there were no supply side reforms, just a bunch of tax cuts which will push up demand.
I'm all in favour of supply side reforms and pushing up business investment, there's was very little in the Friday statement that actually achieves any supply side fix.
He does address that if you read the whole piece:
This is a long list, and even then it is only really a start on the work that the economy needs. It is also vague: it equivocates about the most important supply-side reform of all — housing reform — promising merely that more detail will be announced soon.
But it is a start. And if it is implemented properly (and followed up with more), it would allow Kwarteng’s plan to succeed, and with it, bring to end the awful bind that British policymaking has been stuck in since 2008.
The plan is therefore a do-or-die moment.
To commit to the Growth Plan’s tax-and-spend decisions without the structural reforms to go along with them would be a disaster. It would represent the worst of the status quo, but with a new layer of ‘bad’ added on top.
And there are lots of reasons for pessimism. Getting a supply-side reform through Parliament is much more difficult than doing new spending, especially with special interest groups doing their absolute utmost to block progress. Truss is already light on political capital, given how few MPs originally voted for her, and the response to our currency trouble will only have made that worse. Worst of all, there is very little time: it is less than two years until a general election.
Which is why it's waffle. The writer is just projecting onto Kwasi what he wants to happen. There's been no detail or moves to boost supply just vague ideas and ambitions. What we actually have is a series of tax cuts which are intended to boost demand. Rather than defending them based on something he hopes they will do in the future, they need to be chastised for not doing what is necessary to reform the economy by boosting supply (and investment).
The Friday event, when you take it for the actual measures and exclude all of the guff, is aimed at producing a short term gain in demand by borrowing loads of money. In a high inflation environment it's going to cause interest rates to shoot up and the currency to tank, unsurprisingly that's what has happened.
When you take in the actual measures and exclude all of the guff, almost all of what happened was pre-announced and the 45p changes "cost" £2 billion supposedly, but the real cost to the Exchequer will of course be far less than that and may even by negative.
So the hysteria that has followed is just ridiculous. Yes you are completely right that the vague ideas and ambitions need meat on the bones to follow through with, I totally agree with you on that, but at least they're targeting the right issues and saying the right things even if its not yet in action. They need to follow through with credible actions on reforms, but those are things that aren't simply announced in a statement.
No, they aren't targeting the right issues because they haven't done anything. What they have done is borrow £45bn to increase demand which is targeting the wrong issues.
They might be saying the right things but then they're doing the exact opposite and you're falling for it.
But that £45bn is predominantly to reverse the NI Tax Rise and the Corporation Tax rise, both of which you and I both vehemently disagreed with at the time they were announced. Only £2bn, if that, relates to the 45p tax change but you're acting as if the entire £45bn has gone on that.
I had a look at the evidence of the corporation tax rise and I changed my position. We've had chronically low business investment for over a decade and our model if low CT has resulted in low investment by businesses who prefer to pay dividends rather than chase capital growth which is taxed at a higher rate. Worse still major UK companies are no longer majority domestically owned so the payouts are draining overseas and tax isn't payable.
CT of 30% and a series of big investment allowances on capital and R&D to bring that number down makes much more sense to me.
On NI they went further by keeping the higher threshold, it was the right thing to do but it isn't cost free.
The reason I'm so annoyed by cutting the additional rate is it shows the government has got the wrong priorities. That is a purely demand generation play, it puts tens of thousands in the hands of already pretty well of people hoping they will spend it and the lower tax rate will attract a few thousand extra workers who will also come and spend their money here.
Nowhere in the statement did they show that they were interested in boosting supply or putting in place real reform of education, training, skills and investment in capital to boost supply.
It's bizarre. So called "supply side" economics originating in the US with Reagan was basically borrowing money and cutting taxes, too.
It is said Russia has to keep pumping gas to prevent water getting into the NS1/2 pipes. Why can't they pump air in instead? Anyone know - @rcs1000, @Malmesbury, @Richard_Tyndall, other techies?
No - you dont need to pump or store gas (or nitrogen or dry air) to keep water out. The pipeline will do that by itself. A leaking pipeline indicates a massive quality failure due to poor welding workmanship and is almost unheard of in a modern 'sweet gas' pipeline. (Almost). To have three simultaneous leaks can only be intentional, ie sabotage. The only question is by who??
Incidentally has Reeves or Starmer actually discussed with the Teaching Hospitals how they double the number of Medical Students? It would be quite a building programme, and I am not convinced there are enough candidates of the right calibre. At present 75% of applicants are successful, albeit many on their second application.
75% doesn't sound right to me? I've seen 17% success rate online, even with second applications that seems unlikely.
Five new medical schools have recently opened. It is doable. The question of what is "the right calibre" could probably bear more research. 3 A*s now but ABB a couple of decades back and I recall a careers teacher lamenting it used to be the thick kids who became doctors. Medicine is a five-year course but four years for graduates so is the extra year really needed? There are lots of questions that can and perhaps should be asked but in the absence of Dominic Cummings, let's open more medical schools and expand existing ones.
Finally, I think 'Great British Energy', in public ownership, is a big winner.
Yes it will be
I’m not keen. State competing with private simply won’t work well.
It will be popular though. I'd rather we went all in and grabbed hold of 100% of our needs in energy and food. Fuck globalism, its over
Globalism isn’t over. It’s only just begun.
It’s also unbeatable.
Populism will defeat globalism. Watch this space.
Not If moderatism defeates populism first.
This winter will do for moderatism. Also watch this space.
i honestly think the only chance for the conservatives now as the economy is screwed is to go full on bnp lite to get the red wall votes...start talking about things like an immigration freeze..fight a full on culture wars battle
Yes, if not there is scope for a red wall friendly populist movement to really grab the long term trend away from Labour there. But they need to get motivated and organised now
They’ve not shown any great inclination or effort to really understand or tune into the dynamics of the red wall or build upon that voter base (one of the greatest party political failings of the Tories in the past 3 years - and Liz is even less convincing than BoJo and Rishi on that front) so good luck with that…
Whuch is why i said there is scope for a red wall friendly populist movement. The red wall is leaving labour, has been for nearly 20 years, somebody can cash in if the Tories are too thick to
The idea that the red wall is full of racists is one of the most depressing and appalling ideas mooted here. Its really not.
The red wall is seats where people increasingly own their own home and transport, have aspiration and meet typical concerns for voting Tory, its not some morass of bigoted hicks.
Need to correct that. Tottenham Tories. Not a Councillor - they don't have any.
Quite interesting to see their comparisons for the LTNs - pass laws, Belfast duriung the Troubles ...
The cluelessness is encouraging, in that they will lose through having no meaningful case.
Of course - I'd forgotten you are very keen on urban cycling. Quite. I see 'ghetto' is also used. And it doesn't help that in their historical comparisons the wealthy folk tooling around in big cars were, erm, one colour/race/whatever, and the poor, another ... astounding stuff to come out with in London of all places.
I'm also quite pleased that the Duke of Norfolk got a totting-up driving ban the other day for going through lights on red because he was distracted by using his mobile phone (the new drunk driving - similar penalties required) and did not even look properly. The silly old bugger could have killed someone far too easily.
I've never heard so many weasel words to try and avoid it.
London doing better now - in some places they have moved forward to nearly properly segregated cycleways, which is about the third iteration in 15 years. Chiswick latest (computo pic). Still too narrow and priorities / junctions need work within the wide High Road corridor, but on the way. I lived there for a few years and it was like a motorway.
The thing is how hard is it to get your butler to marry your phone to the car's bluetooth? Unless he was in a 1920s State Bentley or some such.
It is said Russia has to keep pumping gas to prevent water getting into the NS1/2 pipes. Why can't they pump air in instead? Anyone know - @rcs1000, @Malmesbury, @Richard_Tyndall, other techies?
No - you dont need to pump or store gas (or nitrogen or dry air) to keep water out. The pipeline will do that by itself. A leaking pipeline indicates a massive quality failure due to poor welding workmanship and is almost unheard of in a modern 'sweet gas' pipeline. (Almost). To have three simultaneous leaks can only be intentional, ie sabotage. The only question is by who??
How does the pipeline do that by itself if it has a great big hole (or holes) in it?
I'm not surprised - the comments were ill-judged but not racist imo.
Compare and contrast with some of Boris Johnson's utterances.
In what world is it not racist to say black men shouldn't go to private school or work in banking?! It's literally stereotyping them. She's a racist moron, glad to see Starmer take it seriously.
What is a black man supposed to sound like, in Ms Huq's view?
She exhibited the worst kind of racism: an assumption that those with certain skin colour should behave in a certain way.
Hyperbole alert: '...the worst kind of racism...' Really? You mean worse than Jim Crow? Worse than apartheid? Worse than the gas chambers?
She was wrong, she was punished, she apologised.
Meanwhile the economy continues from strength to strength.
The problem will be this - she believes what she said. Just as the left believe right wingers are baby eating psychopaths who hate the poor and think they should all starve if they don’t work, the right harbours the suspicion that the left thinks any person of colour who dares not to be left wing isn’t really a true person of colour. The left think they own the ethnic vote, They don’t, they have to earn it, like any other vote.
I'm not surprised - the comments were ill-judged but not racist imo.
Compare and contrast with some of Boris Johnson's utterances.
In what world is it not racist to say black men shouldn't go to private school or work in banking?! It's literally stereotyping them. She's a racist moron, glad to see Starmer take it seriously.
What is a black man supposed to sound like, in Ms Huq's view?
That, quite aside from the racism of the rest, was the more confusing part of it. Is there an obligation that people define their race in every radio appearance?
"We have X with us in the studio, and for our listeners, they are British, of chinese-polish descent"
I'm not surprised - the comments were ill-judged but not racist imo.
Compare and contrast with some of Boris Johnson's utterances.
In what world is it not racist to say black men shouldn't go to private school or work in banking?! It's literally stereotyping them. She's a racist moron, glad to see Starmer take it seriously.
What is a black man supposed to sound like, in Ms Huq's view?
I crash de exchange rates after tellin my mates I do plenty of blow Befo' to royal funerals I go
Incidentally has Reeves or Starmer actually discussed with the Teaching Hospitals how they double the number of Medical Students? It would be quite a building programme, and I am not convinced there are enough candidates of the right calibre. At present 75% of applicants are successful, albeit many on their second application.
75% doesn't sound right to me? I've seen 17% success rate online, even with second applications that seems unlikely.
Five new medical schools have recently opened. It is doable. The question of what is "the right calibre" could probably bear more research. 3 A*s now but ABB a couple of decades back and I recall a careers teacher lamenting it used to be the thick kids who became doctors. Medicine is a five-year course but four years for graduates so is the extra year really needed? There are lots of questions that can and perhaps should be asked but in the absence of Dominic Cummings, let's open more medical schools and expand existing ones.
I used to work with a lot of doctors. The idea that they need to be (or indeed are) the creme de la creme of intellect is in reality nonsense, mainly perpetuated by themselves. They no more need to have the highest grades than any other profession does. Sure, being a neurosurgeon or electrophysiologist requires genuine intellect, but most general surgeons are not super intelligent and as for the average GPs, well much of their diagnosis could be achieved with a great deal less training, and most of the time they simply refer to someone who actually specialises in something.
One thing that has been worrying me today and yesterday is that a loss of confidence in the UK will eventually lead to the City turning into a shadow of what it is today. One of the major reasons so many investors and banks are happy to do their business here is because the UK has, historically, had a very stable government and economic outlook. This band of idiots has put all of that hard won credibility at risk and if it continues investors will start moving their money elsewhere and that means banks and jobs will follow.
I think you're just going through a bout of general pessimism and it's skewing your judgment.
I think you're just going through a bout of general denial and it's skewing your judgement.
You seem to think I'm a partisan Tory which shows how little you understand my perspective.
I'm just judging from the content and cherry-picking of your posts.
Plus the smugness you show by accusing those who disagree with you of lacking understanding = to dumb to comprehend your "perspective".
I don't think you're too dumb to comprehend my perspective, just too blinkered to avoid seeing everything through your own partisan lens.
Just listened to it. He's not a naturally good speaker but what he said was impressive and more importantly he sounded believable and like he meant it. I also found him likable. A solid 8/10
Finally, I think 'Great British Energy', in public ownership, is a big winner.
Yes it will be
I’m not keen. State competing with private simply won’t work well.
It will be popular though. I'd rather we went all in and grabbed hold of 100% of our needs in energy and food. Fuck globalism, its over
Globalism isn’t over. It’s only just begun.
It’s also unbeatable.
Populism will defeat globalism. Watch this space.
Not If moderatism defeates populism first.
This winter will do for moderatism. Also watch this space.
i honestly think the only chance for the conservatives now as the economy is screwed is to go full on bnp lite to get the red wall votes...start talking about things like an immigration freeze..fight a full on culture wars battle
Yes, if not there is scope for a red wall friendly populist movement to really grab the long term trend away from Labour there. But they need to get motivated and organised now
They’ve not shown any great inclination or effort to really understand or tune into the dynamics of the red wall or build upon that voter base (one of the greatest party political failings of the Tories in the past 3 years - and Liz is even less convincing than BoJo and Rishi on that front) so good luck with that…
Whuch is why i said there is scope for a red wall friendly populist movement. The red wall is leaving labour, has been for nearly 20 years, somebody can cash in if the Tories are too thick to
The idea that the red wall is full of racists is one of the most depressing and appalling ideas mooted here. Its really not.
The red wall is seats where people increasingly own their own home and transport, have aspiration and meet typical concerns for voting Tory, its not some morass of bigoted hicks.
No that's Norfolk.
Racist
I knew folks from Norfolk were inbred but I didn't realise to the point they'd formed their own race . . .
I'm not surprised - the comments were ill-judged but not racist imo.
Compare and contrast with some of Boris Johnson's utterances.
In what world is it not racist to say black men shouldn't go to private school or work in banking?! It's literally stereotyping them. She's a racist moron, glad to see Starmer take it seriously.
She doesn't actually say that but do I take your point. She is falling back on lazy stereotypes, racist and classist.
I agree with Starmer's action and it's good if, as reported, she's apologised.
Can't say its likely to be believable as an apology, but that's all you can really ask of the individual, since we cannot see into peoples' hearts. That'll be an end to it.
Incidentally has Reeves or Starmer actually discussed with the Teaching Hospitals how they double the number of Medical Students? It would be quite a building programme, and I am not convinced there are enough candidates of the right calibre. At present 75% of applicants are successful, albeit many on their second application.
75% doesn't sound right to me? I've seen 17% success rate online, even with second applications that seems unlikely.
I sit on our admissions panels, and that is the figure that I have been quoted by our application team. Of course more may apply if they thought they could get in.
I don't have a problem with expansion, but quite how we manage isn't obvious. There are only so many good clinical teachers.
Incidentally has Reeves or Starmer actually discussed with the Teaching Hospitals how they double the number of Medical Students? It would be quite a building programme, and I am not convinced there are enough candidates of the right calibre. At present 75% of applicants are successful, albeit many on their second application.
Seeing as many of them will end up as GPs I think 3 Es at A-level should be an adequate pass rate, or perhaps an apprentice scheme might suffice.
Being a GP is a very tough job, with nowhere near the resources of us hospital staff. They need to be particularly sharp clinicians.
Finally, I think 'Great British Energy', in public ownership, is a big winner.
Yes it will be
I’m not keen. State competing with private simply won’t work well.
It will be popular though. I'd rather we went all in and grabbed hold of 100% of our needs in energy and food. Fuck globalism, its over
Globalism isn’t over. It’s only just begun.
It’s also unbeatable.
Populism will defeat globalism. Watch this space.
Not If moderatism defeates populism first.
This winter will do for moderatism. Also watch this space.
i honestly think the only chance for the conservatives now as the economy is screwed is to go full on bnp lite to get the red wall votes...start talking about things like an immigration freeze..fight a full on culture wars battle
Yes, if not there is scope for a red wall friendly populist movement to really grab the long term trend away from Labour there. But they need to get motivated and organised now
They’ve not shown any great inclination or effort to really understand or tune into the dynamics of the red wall or build upon that voter base (one of the greatest party political failings of the Tories in the past 3 years - and Liz is even less convincing than BoJo and Rishi on that front) so good luck with that…
Whuch is why i said there is scope for a red wall friendly populist movement. The red wall is leaving labour, has been for nearly 20 years, somebody can cash in if the Tories are too thick to
The idea that the red wall is full of racists is one of the most depressing and appalling ideas mooted here. Its really not.
The red wall is seats where people increasingly own their own home and transport, have aspiration and meet typical concerns for voting Tory, its not some morass of bigoted hicks.
No that's Norfolk.
Racist
I knew folks from Norfolk were inbred but I didn't realise to the point they'd formed their own race . . .
We are Angles, we don't need no stinking Jutes, Saxons, Vikings or Normans over here taking our 'nips and lavender
She exhibited the worst kind of racism: an assumption that those with certain skin colour should behave in a certain way.
Hyperbole alert: '...the worst kind of racism...' Really? You mean worse than Jim Crow? Worse than apartheid? Worse than the gas chambers?
She was wrong, she was punished, she apologised.
Meanwhile the economy continues from strength to strength.
The problem will be this - she believes what she said. Just as the left believe right wingers are baby eating psychopaths who hate the poor and think they should all starve if they don’t work, the right harbours the suspicion that the left thinks any person of colour who dares not to be left wing isn’t really a true person of colour. The left think they own the ethnic vote, They don’t, they have to earn it, like any other vote.
Sympathetic to this view but when we look at the data at an aggregate level, the colour of someone’s skin is mildly correlated to political allegiance. David Cameron made that correlation weaker but it still exists to a certain degree.
Finally, I think 'Great British Energy', in public ownership, is a big winner.
Yes it will be
I’m not keen. State competing with private simply won’t work well.
It will be popular though. I'd rather we went all in and grabbed hold of 100% of our needs in energy and food. Fuck globalism, its over
Globalism isn’t over. It’s only just begun.
It’s also unbeatable.
Populism will defeat globalism. Watch this space.
Not If moderatism defeates populism first.
This winter will do for moderatism. Also watch this space.
i honestly think the only chance for the conservatives now as the economy is screwed is to go full on bnp lite to get the red wall votes...start talking about things like an immigration freeze..fight a full on culture wars battle
"BNP-lite"?? What - only a mild form of fascism? As opposed to the full blown deportation of undesirables and execution of hard cases?
Could you define "BNP Lite"? Does it only involve prisons? Hard labour? Punishment beatings?
He promised a new 70% home ownership target if Labour won power, with proposals to help first-time buyers get on the property ladder.
I am behind you Keir, I am behind you
Please no props for first time buyers. All they are about is to ensure first time buyers bid higher against each other so that prices are higher for the people selling.
What first time buyers really need is low prices and that comes from the govt withdrawing from the housing market, including taking housing benefit back to the levels of a couple of decades ago. The houses will still end up lived in, just at a lower price, whether rented or bought.
On that general topic, how far do we think the new Government's commitment to easing planning restrictions for onshore wind is going to get?
Not far would be my hunch. It's not even a party political thing, we simply have way too many people in this country opposed to development. Everyone is in favour in theory, like raising taxes, but not around here. Oh no, we can't have any new houses, schools, shops, offices, factories, roads, railways, airports, power stations, tunnels, parks, masts, etc. No, build them somewhere else.
Kherson Oblast - 97.47% Zaporozhye Oblast - 98% Donetsk Oblast - 98.05% Luhansk Oblast - 97.79%
Genuine courageous votes to stay in Ukraine? Or just made up numbers to look ‘realistic’?
If you look at the last Ukrainian parliamentary elections, the Pro Russia (now banned) Opposition Platform - For Life, got majorities/pluralities in much of Donetsk and Luhansk, but did much worse in the other 2 provinces.
Not saying those Opposition Platform voters are necessarily in favour of joining Russia, but maybe you'd expect higher support in those places for it, than in Kherson or Zaporizhzhia
He promised a new 70% home ownership target if Labour won power, with proposals to help first-time buyers get on the property ladder.
I am behind you Keir, I am behind you
Please no props for first time buyers. All they are about is to ensure first time buyers bid higher against each other so that prices are higher for the people selling.
What first time buyers really need is low prices and that comes from the govt withdrawing from the housing market, including taking housing benefit back to the levels of a couple of decades ago. The houses will still end up lived in, just at a lower price, whether rented or bought.
Housing benefit shouldn't be reduced, it should be abolished. Roll it into a UBI and allow people to choose how to spend their own money for housing, whether it be on a mortgage, or rent.
Insisting on renting instead of buying your own home, or having benefits like housing benefit that get lost if you work more, just sets the wrong incentives.
If he becomes PM at the next election he will be about 20 years older than Blair was. There's only a 9 year age gap between him and Blair.
CHB's post is the sort of exultant bullshit you get from a Labour Bot. it has been a work of art engratiating him /her/they into the minds of PB ers over the last couple of years. Now the leopard shows it's spots.
"If Russia invades, that means tanks or troops crossing the ... border of Ukraine again, then there will be ... no longer a Nord Stream 2. We, we will bring an end to it," Biden said. Asked how, given the project is in German control, Biden said: "I promise you, we'll be able to do it."
Scholz said the United States and Germany had the same approach to Ukraine, to Russia and to sanctions, but did not directly confirm the Nord Stream 2 plans or mention the pipeline publicly by name over the course of his day-long visit.
He promised a new 70% home ownership target if Labour won power, with proposals to help first-time buyers get on the property ladder.
I am behind you Keir, I am behind you
Please no props for first time buyers. All they are about is to ensure first time buyers bid higher against each other so that prices are higher for the people selling.
What first time buyers really need is low prices and that comes from the govt withdrawing from the housing market, including taking housing benefit back to the levels of a couple of decades ago. The houses will still end up lived in, just at a lower price, whether rented or bought.
Housing benefit shouldn't be reduced, it should be abolished. Roll it into a UBI and allow people to choose how to spend their own money for housing, whether it be on a mortgage, or rent.
Insisting on renting instead of buying your own home, or having benefits like housing benefit that get lost if you work more, just sets the wrong incentives.
Yeah I'd be happy with that. But within the current framework we have ended up in a pointless inflationary spiral of housing benefit that just helps landlords with little to no improvement in the housing stock for the people who are supposed to be being helped. It is another bad policy that neither party will tackle.
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As well as making an even bigger disaster for the economy than they're already doing - though that scarcely seems possible.
Could you define "BNP Lite"? Does it only involve prisons? Hard labour? Punishment beatings?
The point is not to convince; quite the opposite. It's about demonstrating power and the hopelessness of resistance.
Of course getting their arses kicked by Ukraine's army rather goes against the narrative.
It's not hard to not do. Yes, apologies will get made, as in this case, which is about all that can be demanded I guess, but such comment is not made in the heat of the moment, its considered and deliberate, so whilst apologies have to be made it's generally pretty clear what the genuine feeling is.
And it gives cover to more 'overt' racism to boot. Fantastic.
But then I say that as a white man on behalf of non whites everywhere.
Whatever you are, you're not even superficially honest.
If gilts are collapsing in value then are not Defined Benefit pensions in deep shite?
Unless its a small town only, nothing should ever get above 95%.
As NigelB says it is clearly performative, in that not even they will believe it, but they can make people say they believe it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cricket_test
"Although the practice of lynching had existed since before slavery, it gained momentum duringReconstruction, when viable black towns sprang up across the South and African Americans began to make political and economic inroads by registering to vote, establishing businesses and running for public office. Many whites—landowners and poor whites—felt threatened by this rise in black prominence."
Someone bothered to write an article claiming they felt threatened. It was part of it, not all, but a part. Anyway, its a silly discussion to get into further.
What she said was wrong, racist and stupid and she has been rightly sacked. No loss to the Labour party or political society either.
🇩🇰 PM M.Frederiksen took part in the opening of the #BalticPipe together with 🇵🇱President @AndrzejDuda 🇵🇱PM @MorawieckiM
The project contributes to ensuring #security of supply in DK, PL, EE & the Baltic States and reduces the EU's dependence on 🇷🇺RU #gas
https://twitter.com/DenmarkinPoland/status/1574719518869520384
Not ideal from the BNP-Lite point of view, but that isn't my political position. I am anti-fascist.
The red wall is seats where people increasingly own their own home and transport, have aspiration and meet typical concerns for voting Tory, its not some morass of bigoted hicks.
Given her reasoning, there's no way it could not apply to a lot of other people.
It's the kind of logic the National Front espouse.
Genuine fucking idiots (all though fair play to Flowers for running the grift so well)
The UK medical schools have already called for a big increase in student numbers, I doubt they will mind Starmers ambition.
https://www.medschools.ac.uk/news/medical-schools-call-for-increase-in-doctors-to-support-nhs-recovery-and-sustainability
They will come over here, take our jobs and make our women pregnant.
Spain and Portugal have fewer energy issues: they've both got lots of wind and solar, and have entered into long term gas supply contracts. They also had a fabulous Summer 2022 as holidaying returned in Europe. More of an issue will be Summer 2023 for them: but that's a long way away.
France is touch-and-go. I think they'll do better than Germany, but worse than Iberia.
Jeez I knew Malcolm had left, but I didn't realise the bar on aggressiveness had been moved that low now.
That being said, gas is pumped under very considerable pressure. Adding air to the mix against a back pressure of water inflowing into the pipe could produce an explosive mix under high pressure.
I would be very very careful about doing that....
There is scope to crush Labour in these areas if the right offer is made.
I've never heard so many weasel words to try and avoid it.
London doing better now - in some places they have moved forward to nearly properly segregated cycleways, which is about the third iteration in 15 years. Chiswick latest (computo pic). Still too narrow and priorities / junctions need work within the wide High Road corridor, but on the way. I lived there for a few years and it was like a motorway.
This is not to say Starmer is a fascist - he’s not - but the language is uncomfortable
Do you see pistachio nut and envy it for the intelligence God gave it?
Plus the smugness you show by accusing those who disagree with you of lacking understanding = to dumb to comprehend your "perspective".
Sort of thing Farage says about Brexiteers.
"We have X with us in the studio, and for our listeners, they are British, of chinese-polish descent"
He is this generation's Tony Blair.
I am behind you Keir, I am behind you
after tellin my mates
I do plenty of blow
Befo' to royal funerals I go
I am really, genuinely disappointed about that political wing stuff.
I don't have a problem with expansion, but quite how we manage isn't obvious. There are only so many good clinical teachers. Being a GP is a very tough job, with nowhere near the resources of us hospital staff. They need to be particularly sharp clinicians.
This is gonna be a must watch.
This really won’t end well if this delusion continues .
What first time buyers really need is low prices and that comes from the govt withdrawing from the housing market, including taking housing benefit back to the levels of a couple of decades ago. The houses will still end up lived in, just at a lower price, whether rented or bought.
Thought you were on hols?
Not saying those Opposition Platform voters are necessarily in favour of joining Russia, but maybe you'd expect higher support in those places for it, than in Kherson or Zaporizhzhia
Insisting on renting instead of buying your own home, or having benefits like housing benefit that get lost if you work more, just sets the wrong incentives.
Now the leopard shows it's spots.
From supporting Ukraine to addressing global economic challenges, the UK and Italy are close allies. 🇬🇧🇮🇹
https://twitter.com/trussliz/status/1574476937015304192?s=46&t=UjLejN7sri8-lM915-SOwQ
Tone deaf.
Some cracking comments.
@radeksikorski
Thank you, USA.
https://twitter.com/radeksikorski/status/1574800653724966915