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    Sky showing dire polling for Truss.

    She has a mountain to climb to rebuild her reputation after basically razing it to the ground in the hustings by refusing to say anything meaningful about CoL.

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    LeonLeon Posts: 46,994
    edited September 2022
    I like the fact that as Britain reveals its new prime minister, the biggest domestic politics story of the year, politicalbetting.com is deep into a conversation on the best way of peeling garlic, the correct time to spend cooking dinner, the 50 pest pubs in the country, and the use of stock in risottos


    And fancy cheese sandwiches with egg
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    Foxy said:

    Hilarious if Sunak wins.

    Not that it is going to happen, but real cat amongst the pigeons stuff!

    I will die laughing.

    All the way to the bank.
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    FoxyFoxy Posts: 44,578
    Have I tuned into PB, or to an episode of Ready, Steady, Cook?
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    CD13CD13 Posts: 6,351
    edited September 2022
    Mr Doof,

    "Are you suggesting the Guardian journalists should not criticise Truss's policies because they supported Johnson resigning?"

    I think I can make a safe prediction. The Guardian will criticise Ms Truss's policies whatever they are. It's the same with all newspapers - they are biased, and their biases are based on their readership. Facts never matter, they only get in the way sometimes.

    The 'I' began with a specialist science writer. I met him briefly before he disappeared forever. I watched a BBC journalist interview a specialist a few months ago.. He was extremely eloquant and scientific. She was thick, and kept interrupting to ask some extremely idiotic questions she had written down in front of her. It was embarrassing.

    And as for Professor Peston? Jeez.
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    ohnotnowohnotnow Posts: 2,919
    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    ohnotnow said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    rcs1000 said:

    ping said:

    Selebian said:

    eek said:

    This is a rough(ish) guide to energy costs assuming the October prices take effect
    Usages costs at 52p per kwh

    I'm surprised the oven uses less energy per hour than a hob ring. I guess things usually take longer in the oven tho. But if you can fill it with meals you can microwave later that could make savings.
    Oven pretty low energy draw once it's up to temperature, I should think (which takes, what, 10 minutes or so?). At that point the thermostat cycles the element on and off as needed, so there are quite some periods when the energy draw is near zero. We've got a new oven in last few weeks as part of kitchen/extension work and it really is almost cool to touch even in use - as with everything else I guess the insulation has got much better. Of course, the thing being cooked is an energy sink too.

    Traditional hob is losing energy to the air (or to the pan which loses it to the air) all the time. Induction similar, although without the direct hob to air energy transfer.
    You can transfer a lot of stuff done on the hob to a microwave with little effort.

    Eg, you can perfectly adequately steam/boil veg/rice with the correct tool. Much more energy efficient.
    Risotto in the microwave is dead easy and quick.
    What kind of witchcraft is this? Risotto isn't meant to be quick. It's meant to be a labour of love.
    Risotto in the microwave has two huge advantages - it's quick so I can cook a healthy and tasty family meal from scratch in 40 minutes after getting home from work. But more importantly, it really triggers precious foodie types.
    You don't need a microwave

    This is an absolutely magnificent risotto recipe which takes about 30 minutes


    https://www.bbcgoodfood.com/recipes/smoked-haddock-leek-risotto

    But follow the tips in the comments and amp up the flavour: add garlic and cracked black pepper at the start, chuck in a glass of white wine early on, replace spinach with cavolo nero or rocket, grate some parmesan at the end

    I also add dashi powder in my fish stock

    Honestly, it's fabulous. I did an enormous amount of cooking during lockdown, like so many of us, and this is the single best recipe I discovered, partly because it is so delish, but also coz it's so easy (but you do need to add those flavours)
    ‘grate some parmesan at the end’

    Lol
    I was so chastened by the harsh PB critique of my pre-grated Parmesan habit, I went and bought a grater

    True story

    I actually quite enjoy the grating rigmarole now, and do it with a certain Italian flourish, like I am head waiter at the Gritti Palace

    As a man ages, he must take his furtive pleasures where he can

    You can tell a man is single if he can grate a big block of cheese in under 10 seconds.

    I reckon you can grate a big block of parmesan under 2 seconds.
    I was watching a cookery youtube video a while back and the chef put the box grater flat on the surface (open end away from him) then started grating by just pushing the cheese against it. Half the effort and twice as quick.

    I guess a similar principle to below. Probably the oldest thing in my kitchen (apart from me) and still works a treat.


    If you - or any PB-er - can give me a quick easy way to peel and slice/crush garlic I will fiercely support Scottish independence til the end of time. None of the gimmicky tricks work, and garlic crushers don't do it properly, and are messy and annoying. Jamie Oliver says prepping garlic is his least favourite task, and reminds him of nightmare hours doing it as a trainee chef at the River Cafe

    I know what he means
    I squash the clove under the flat side of the knife so that the skin comes off easily, cut off the hard bit at the bottom, slice once or twice through the thinnest dimension then lay flat and slice lengthways then, holding it together loosely, slice across. I guess the only "technique" here is to slice it along the dimension requiring fewest cuts first and the one needing the most cuts last. This gives you diced garlic pieces about 2mm cubes. It is fairly quick.
    If you are doing absolutely loads an alternative is to crush in a pestle and mortar. This is what my wife does if she's making curry, for instance. Remove skins first, obvs.
    Definitely need to try this knife-crushing thing. Ta. It's the skin peeling bit that drives me nuts. You get papery-sticky bits of garlic skin on your fingers. Drives me nuts
    There's a youtube channel I watch sometimes ("Epicurious") while cooking - it had a short video on various ways of chopping garlic https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2PGGNEfNM4
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    dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 27,952
    Candidates told the result.
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    turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 15,148

    Leon said:

    ohnotnow said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    rcs1000 said:

    ping said:

    Selebian said:

    eek said:

    This is a rough(ish) guide to energy costs assuming the October prices take effect
    Usages costs at 52p per kwh

    I'm surprised the oven uses less energy per hour than a hob ring. I guess things usually take longer in the oven tho. But if you can fill it with meals you can microwave later that could make savings.
    Oven pretty low energy draw once it's up to temperature, I should think (which takes, what, 10 minutes or so?). At that point the thermostat cycles the element on and off as needed, so there are quite some periods when the energy draw is near zero. We've got a new oven in last few weeks as part of kitchen/extension work and it really is almost cool to touch even in use - as with everything else I guess the insulation has got much better. Of course, the thing being cooked is an energy sink too.

    Traditional hob is losing energy to the air (or to the pan which loses it to the air) all the time. Induction similar, although without the direct hob to air energy transfer.
    You can transfer a lot of stuff done on the hob to a microwave with little effort.

    Eg, you can perfectly adequately steam/boil veg/rice with the correct tool. Much more energy efficient.
    Risotto in the microwave is dead easy and quick.
    What kind of witchcraft is this? Risotto isn't meant to be quick. It's meant to be a labour of love.
    Risotto in the microwave has two huge advantages - it's quick so I can cook a healthy and tasty family meal from scratch in 40 minutes after getting home from work. But more importantly, it really triggers precious foodie types.
    You don't need a microwave

    This is an absolutely magnificent risotto recipe which takes about 30 minutes


    https://www.bbcgoodfood.com/recipes/smoked-haddock-leek-risotto

    But follow the tips in the comments and amp up the flavour: add garlic and cracked black pepper at the start, chuck in a glass of white wine early on, replace spinach with cavolo nero or rocket, grate some parmesan at the end

    I also add dashi powder in my fish stock

    Honestly, it's fabulous. I did an enormous amount of cooking during lockdown, like so many of us, and this is the single best recipe I discovered, partly because it is so delish, but also coz it's so easy (but you do need to add those flavours)
    ‘grate some parmesan at the end’

    Lol
    I was so chastened by the harsh PB critique of my pre-grated Parmesan habit, I went and bought a grater

    True story

    I actually quite enjoy the grating rigmarole now, and do it with a certain Italian flourish, like I am head waiter at the Gritti Palace

    As a man ages, he must take his furtive pleasures where he can

    You can tell a man is single if he can grate a big block of cheese in under 10 seconds.

    I reckon you can grate a big block of parmesan under 2 seconds.
    I was watching a cookery youtube video a while back and the chef put the box grater flat on the surface (open end away from him) then started grating by just pushing the cheese against it. Half the effort and twice as quick.

    I guess a similar principle to below. Probably the oldest thing in my kitchen (apart from me) and still works a treat.


    If you - or any PB-er - can give me a quick easy way to peel and slice/crush garlic I will fiercely support Scottish independence til the end of time. None of the gimmicky tricks work, and garlic crushers don't do it properly, and are messy and annoying. Jamie Oliver says prepping garlic is his least favourite task, and reminds him of nightmare hours doing it as a trainee chef at the River Cafe

    I know what he means
    I found that if you use a really heavy duty garlic crusher, you don’t need to peel the garlic. While clove goes in, crush, open, flick the skin etc out with the tip of a knife…

    Needs a bit of strength, though. And will destroy a flimsy garlic crusher.

    I have a Spanish made garlic grater - think a saucer with sharp bits all over. Simply rub the cloves over this, the skin comes away and garlic pulp is left behind. There is a little brush to decant the good stuff.

    Bought it at a chilli fair a couple of years ago.
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    Foxy said:

    Have I tuned into PB, or to an episode of Ready, Steady, Cook?

    Nothing much political happening today.
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    LeonLeon Posts: 46,994
    Dura_Ace said:

    Leon said:



    @NickPalmer may have come up with the most controversial opinion of his PB career. "I never bother cooking for more than 10 minutes"

    !!!!

    I don't think I've ever cooked anything. Food is just fuel for cycling and to be highly optimised toward that end.
    Yeah, but you also told us in high style that you were "never going traveling again, fuck that foreign travel shit, you fucking cocksuckers" and about two weeks later you went to Cairo
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    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    ohnotnow said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    rcs1000 said:

    ping said:

    Selebian said:

    eek said:

    This is a rough(ish) guide to energy costs assuming the October prices take effect
    Usages costs at 52p per kwh

    I'm surprised the oven uses less energy per hour than a hob ring. I guess things usually take longer in the oven tho. But if you can fill it with meals you can microwave later that could make savings.
    Oven pretty low energy draw once it's up to temperature, I should think (which takes, what, 10 minutes or so?). At that point the thermostat cycles the element on and off as needed, so there are quite some periods when the energy draw is near zero. We've got a new oven in last few weeks as part of kitchen/extension work and it really is almost cool to touch even in use - as with everything else I guess the insulation has got much better. Of course, the thing being cooked is an energy sink too.

    Traditional hob is losing energy to the air (or to the pan which loses it to the air) all the time. Induction similar, although without the direct hob to air energy transfer.
    You can transfer a lot of stuff done on the hob to a microwave with little effort.

    Eg, you can perfectly adequately steam/boil veg/rice with the correct tool. Much more energy efficient.
    Risotto in the microwave is dead easy and quick.
    What kind of witchcraft is this? Risotto isn't meant to be quick. It's meant to be a labour of love.
    Risotto in the microwave has two huge advantages - it's quick so I can cook a healthy and tasty family meal from scratch in 40 minutes after getting home from work. But more importantly, it really triggers precious foodie types.
    You don't need a microwave

    This is an absolutely magnificent risotto recipe which takes about 30 minutes


    https://www.bbcgoodfood.com/recipes/smoked-haddock-leek-risotto

    But follow the tips in the comments and amp up the flavour: add garlic and cracked black pepper at the start, chuck in a glass of white wine early on, replace spinach with cavolo nero or rocket, grate some parmesan at the end

    I also add dashi powder in my fish stock

    Honestly, it's fabulous. I did an enormous amount of cooking during lockdown, like so many of us, and this is the single best recipe I discovered, partly because it is so delish, but also coz it's so easy (but you do need to add those flavours)
    ‘grate some parmesan at the end’

    Lol
    I was so chastened by the harsh PB critique of my pre-grated Parmesan habit, I went and bought a grater

    True story

    I actually quite enjoy the grating rigmarole now, and do it with a certain Italian flourish, like I am head waiter at the Gritti Palace

    As a man ages, he must take his furtive pleasures where he can

    You can tell a man is single if he can grate a big block of cheese in under 10 seconds.

    I reckon you can grate a big block of parmesan under 2 seconds.
    I was watching a cookery youtube video a while back and the chef put the box grater flat on the surface (open end away from him) then started grating by just pushing the cheese against it. Half the effort and twice as quick.

    I guess a similar principle to below. Probably the oldest thing in my kitchen (apart from me) and still works a treat.


    If you - or any PB-er - can give me a quick easy way to peel and slice/crush garlic I will fiercely support Scottish independence til the end of time. None of the gimmicky tricks work, and garlic crushers don't do it properly, and are messy and annoying. Jamie Oliver says prepping garlic is his least favourite task, and reminds him of nightmare hours doing it as a trainee chef at the River Cafe

    I know what he means
    I squash the clove under the flat side of the knife so that the skin comes off easily, cut off the hard bit at the bottom, slice once or twice through the thinnest dimension then lay flat and slice lengthways then, holding it together loosely, slice across. I guess the only "technique" here is to slice it along the dimension requiring fewest cuts first and the one needing the most cuts last. This gives you diced garlic pieces about 2mm cubes. It is fairly quick.
    If you are doing absolutely loads an alternative is to crush in a pestle and mortar. This is what my wife does if she's making curry, for instance. Remove skins first, obvs.
    Definitely need to try this knife-crushing thing. Ta. It's the skin peeling bit that drives me nuts. You get papery-sticky bits of garlic skin on your fingers. Drives me nuts
    It works about 80-90% of the time. For some reason there are some cloves whose skin won't come off except with a knife. It is maddening, you are right. But I imagine that with your flint knapping skills this must be quick work for you!
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    ChrisChris Posts: 11,117
    edited September 2022

    Sky showing dire polling for Truss.

    She has a mountain to climb to rebuild her reputation after basically razing it to the ground in the hustings by refusing to say anything meaningful about CoL.

    It doesn't say much for her political judgment that for weeks she's continued to play quite unnecessarily to the Tory gallery, thereby diminishing her popularity with the electorate.
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    ohnotnow said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    rcs1000 said:

    ping said:

    Selebian said:

    eek said:

    This is a rough(ish) guide to energy costs assuming the October prices take effect
    Usages costs at 52p per kwh

    I'm surprised the oven uses less energy per hour than a hob ring. I guess things usually take longer in the oven tho. But if you can fill it with meals you can microwave later that could make savings.
    Oven pretty low energy draw once it's up to temperature, I should think (which takes, what, 10 minutes or so?). At that point the thermostat cycles the element on and off as needed, so there are quite some periods when the energy draw is near zero. We've got a new oven in last few weeks as part of kitchen/extension work and it really is almost cool to touch even in use - as with everything else I guess the insulation has got much better. Of course, the thing being cooked is an energy sink too.

    Traditional hob is losing energy to the air (or to the pan which loses it to the air) all the time. Induction similar, although without the direct hob to air energy transfer.
    You can transfer a lot of stuff done on the hob to a microwave with little effort.

    Eg, you can perfectly adequately steam/boil veg/rice with the correct tool. Much more energy efficient.
    Risotto in the microwave is dead easy and quick.
    What kind of witchcraft is this? Risotto isn't meant to be quick. It's meant to be a labour of love.
    Risotto in the microwave has two huge advantages - it's quick so I can cook a healthy and tasty family meal from scratch in 40 minutes after getting home from work. But more importantly, it really triggers precious foodie types.
    You don't need a microwave

    This is an absolutely magnificent risotto recipe which takes about 30 minutes


    https://www.bbcgoodfood.com/recipes/smoked-haddock-leek-risotto

    But follow the tips in the comments and amp up the flavour: add garlic and cracked black pepper at the start, chuck in a glass of white wine early on, replace spinach with cavolo nero or rocket, grate some parmesan at the end

    I also add dashi powder in my fish stock

    Honestly, it's fabulous. I did an enormous amount of cooking during lockdown, like so many of us, and this is the single best recipe I discovered, partly because it is so delish, but also coz it's so easy (but you do need to add those flavours)
    ‘grate some parmesan at the end’

    Lol
    I was so chastened by the harsh PB critique of my pre-grated Parmesan habit, I went and bought a grater

    True story

    I actually quite enjoy the grating rigmarole now, and do it with a certain Italian flourish, like I am head waiter at the Gritti Palace

    As a man ages, he must take his furtive pleasures where he can

    You can tell a man is single if he can grate a big block of cheese in under 10 seconds.

    I reckon you can grate a big block of parmesan under 2 seconds.
    I was watching a cookery youtube video a while back and the chef put the box grater flat on the surface (open end away from him) then started grating by just pushing the cheese against it. Half the effort and twice as quick.

    I guess a similar principle to below. Probably the oldest thing in my kitchen (apart from me) and still works a treat.


    Why have you got a shower head in your kitchen?
    Bath full of coal naturally.
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    IshmaelZIshmaelZ Posts: 21,830
    Odds on St Francis of Assisi?
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    WhisperingOracleWhisperingOracle Posts: 8,503
    edited September 2022
    What Boris Johnson needs to do is buy himself a 25,000 artisanal wagon shed like Camerson's, hesitatingly write a few pages of his memoir, with some doodles and daydreams. and wait for the calls to come in.
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    SandpitSandpit Posts: 49,859
    Here we go!
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    JonathanJonathan Posts: 20,901
    Tories apparently electing both the next PM and next LOTO today.
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    Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 26,530
    Announcement imminent.
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    Leon said:

    Dura_Ace said:

    Leon said:



    @NickPalmer may have come up with the most controversial opinion of his PB career. "I never bother cooking for more than 10 minutes"

    !!!!

    I don't think I've ever cooked anything. Food is just fuel for cycling and to be highly optimised toward that end.
    Yeah, but you also told us in high style that you were "never going traveling again, fuck that foreign travel shit, you fucking cocksuckers" and about two weeks later you went to Cairo
    I can imagine that cooking is less fun for vegans

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    dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 27,952
    Leon said:

    I like the fact that as Britain reveals its new prime minister, the biggest domestic politics story of the year, politicalbetting.com is deep into a conversation on the best way of peeling garlic, the correct time to spend cooking dinner, the 50 pest pubs in the country, and the use of stock in risottos


    And fancy cheese sandwiches with egg

    Used to share a flat with a chef in Taiwan.
    That method is how he chopped garlic. So I do too. But nowhere near as quickly or efficiently.
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    AlistairMAlistairM Posts: 2,004
    Sandpit said:

    Here we go!

    Presumably we can tell the result from the candidates' faces.
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    Why a speech before the results

    Stupid
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    Get Andrew Stephenson off the stage. No-one cares.
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    wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 6,930

    Why a speech before the results

    Stupid

    Weve not been irritated enough
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    FlatlanderFlatlander Posts: 3,884
    Dura_Ace said:

    Leon said:



    @NickPalmer may have come up with the most controversial opinion of his PB career. "I never bother cooking for more than 10 minutes"

    !!!!

    I don't think I've ever cooked anything. Food is just fuel for cycling and to be highly optimised toward that end.
    Doesn't eating too many gels have after effects?

    You might have to stop by the roadside whilst winning the Giro.
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    Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 32,875

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    ohnotnow said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    rcs1000 said:

    ping said:

    Selebian said:

    eek said:

    This is a rough(ish) guide to energy costs assuming the October prices take effect
    Usages costs at 52p per kwh

    I'm surprised the oven uses less energy per hour than a hob ring. I guess things usually take longer in the oven tho. But if you can fill it with meals you can microwave later that could make savings.
    Oven pretty low energy draw once it's up to temperature, I should think (which takes, what, 10 minutes or so?). At that point the thermostat cycles the element on and off as needed, so there are quite some periods when the energy draw is near zero. We've got a new oven in last few weeks as part of kitchen/extension work and it really is almost cool to touch even in use - as with everything else I guess the insulation has got much better. Of course, the thing being cooked is an energy sink too.

    Traditional hob is losing energy to the air (or to the pan which loses it to the air) all the time. Induction similar, although without the direct hob to air energy transfer.
    You can transfer a lot of stuff done on the hob to a microwave with little effort.

    Eg, you can perfectly adequately steam/boil veg/rice with the correct tool. Much more energy efficient.
    Risotto in the microwave is dead easy and quick.
    What kind of witchcraft is this? Risotto isn't meant to be quick. It's meant to be a labour of love.
    Risotto in the microwave has two huge advantages - it's quick so I can cook a healthy and tasty family meal from scratch in 40 minutes after getting home from work. But more importantly, it really triggers precious foodie types.
    You don't need a microwave

    This is an absolutely magnificent risotto recipe which takes about 30 minutes


    https://www.bbcgoodfood.com/recipes/smoked-haddock-leek-risotto

    But follow the tips in the comments and amp up the flavour: add garlic and cracked black pepper at the start, chuck in a glass of white wine early on, replace spinach with cavolo nero or rocket, grate some parmesan at the end

    I also add dashi powder in my fish stock

    Honestly, it's fabulous. I did an enormous amount of cooking during lockdown, like so many of us, and this is the single best recipe I discovered, partly because it is so delish, but also coz it's so easy (but you do need to add those flavours)
    ‘grate some parmesan at the end’

    Lol
    I was so chastened by the harsh PB critique of my pre-grated Parmesan habit, I went and bought a grater

    True story

    I actually quite enjoy the grating rigmarole now, and do it with a certain Italian flourish, like I am head waiter at the Gritti Palace

    As a man ages, he must take his furtive pleasures where he can

    You can tell a man is single if he can grate a big block of cheese in under 10 seconds.

    I reckon you can grate a big block of parmesan under 2 seconds.
    I was watching a cookery youtube video a while back and the chef put the box grater flat on the surface (open end away from him) then started grating by just pushing the cheese against it. Half the effort and twice as quick.

    I guess a similar principle to below. Probably the oldest thing in my kitchen (apart from me) and still works a treat.


    If you - or any PB-er - can give me a quick easy way to peel and slice/crush garlic I will fiercely support Scottish independence til the end of time. None of the gimmicky tricks work, and garlic crushers don't do it properly, and are messy and annoying. Jamie Oliver says prepping garlic is his least favourite task, and reminds him of nightmare hours doing it as a trainee chef at the River Cafe

    I know what he means
    I squash the clove under the flat side of the knife so that the skin comes off easily, cut off the hard bit at the bottom, slice once or twice through the thinnest dimension then lay flat and slice lengthways then, holding it together loosely, slice across. I guess the only "technique" here is to slice it along the dimension requiring fewest cuts first and the one needing the most cuts last. This gives you diced garlic pieces about 2mm cubes. It is fairly quick.
    If you are doing absolutely loads an alternative is to crush in a pestle and mortar. This is what my wife does if she's making curry, for instance. Remove skins first, obvs.
    Definitely need to try this knife-crushing thing. Ta. It's the skin peeling bit that drives me nuts. You get papery-sticky bits of garlic skin on your fingers. Drives me nuts
    It works about 80-90% of the time. For some reason there are some cloves whose skin won't come off except with a knife. It is maddening, you are right. But I imagine that with your flint knapping skills this must be quick work for you!
    Custom garlic knife...

    https://www.lamnia.com/en/p/127/knives/roselli-garlic-knife-peeling-knife-r770p
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    dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 27,952

    Get Andrew Stephenson off the stage. No-one cares.

    R5L cut away from him.
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    DynamoDynamo Posts: 651

    Why a speech before the results

    Stupid

    Because it's a rally.

    I love the lectern made from the masonic "Apprentice Pillar"!
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    LeonLeon Posts: 46,994

    Leon said:

    Dura_Ace said:

    Leon said:



    @NickPalmer may have come up with the most controversial opinion of his PB career. "I never bother cooking for more than 10 minutes"

    !!!!

    I don't think I've ever cooked anything. Food is just fuel for cycling and to be highly optimised toward that end.
    Yeah, but you also told us in high style that you were "never going traveling again, fuck that foreign travel shit, you fucking cocksuckers" and about two weeks later you went to Cairo
    I can imagine that cooking is less fun for vegans

    Good point

    I love doing fancy roast guinea fowl with bacon rashers on the top. Wouldn't be quite the same with celeriac
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    WhisperingOracleWhisperingOracle Posts: 8,503
    edited September 2022

    Why a speech before the results

    Stupid

    "All the competitors have been great, and no one should go home feeling like a loser. The entrants for Britain in Bloom this year have been of exceptionallly high quality, and I want to thank everyone for their baskets."
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    BBC R4 broadcasting live if you can’t access a screen.
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    TheValiantTheValiant Posts: 1,705
    Leon said:

    I like the fact that as Britain reveals its new prime minister, the biggest domestic politics story of the year, politicalbetting.com is deep into a conversation on the best way of peeling garlic, the correct time to spend cooking dinner, the 50 pest pubs in the country, and the use of stock in risottos


    And fancy cheese sandwiches with egg

    Last night I downloaded The Bards Tale (remastered) from Gog.com.

    I've always wanted to play it, but could never get past the horrible 1980s interface.

    Now I can enjoy it with better graphics and a reasonably better interface.

    Anyone else tried this?
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    wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 6,930
    edited September 2022
    Quick episode of the Pink Panther then the results
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    NigelbNigelb Posts: 62,474

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Cicero said:

    Leon said:

    Christ


    “Life in Blackout Britain: Experts warn energy rationing this winter could see people told not to cook until after 8pm, pubs close at 9pm, 'three-day-a-week' school, care homes cancel outings for residents and swimming pools left unheated”

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11173211/Life-Blackout-Britain-Experts-warn-energy-rationing-winter.html

    Think I really will eff off to bangers

    Well, its not for the first time that you seem to need to change your undies about some Daily Mail madeuppery... Just remember that like all writers/journalists, 90% of the time they don´t know what the f&%& they are talking about and are just looking for a story tag.
    Talking of which;

    A front-page article in the Telegraph earlier this week incorrectly used new analysis to claim that working from home will add more than £2,500 a year to energy bills, and said this meant commuters would be likely to save £1,500 by going out to work instead of staying at home.

    The Telegraph appears to have multiplied by 12 the expected energy savings in January 2023, as estimated by the price comparison website Uswitch. This calculation is flawed because energy usage is much higher in January than in an average month.

    Uswitch’s estimate may also not be reliable, for instance because it makes assumptions about the way that people use their heating that are different from official data on the subject.


    https://fullfact.org/economy/telegraph-working-from-home-energy-costs/
    Journalist + Numerical Data == Bullshit.

    The typical Journalist has the scientific training of @Leon

    So, it is all yada, yada, yada, aliens are coming, yada, yada, yada, AI is coming, yada, yada, yada, the End of Times is coming.
    Yes he’s so dumb that right now he’s being paid to sit by a pool in Portugal, or so I hear. Just down the coast from me

    If only all of us could be so “unscientific”
    Booring
    *sips cocktail pensively*

    *dives in pool*
    Are we sure he's not actually in Neasden, and using his vivid imagination?
    If not, I hope whatever he's posting on as he dives into the pool is waterproof.
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    AlistairMAlistairM Posts: 2,004
    AlistairM said:

    Sandpit said:

    Here we go!

    Presumably we can tell the result from the candidates' faces.
    From the faces looks like Truss.
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    JameiJamei Posts: 50
    Thought this would be a 30-second Graham Brady announcement in the committee room. GET ON WITH IT!!
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    SelebianSelebian Posts: 7,404

    Why a speech before the results

    Stupid

    "All the competitors have een great, and no one should go home feeling like a loser. The entrants for Britain in Bloom this year have been of exceptionallly high quality, and I want to thank everyone for their baskets."
    Basket cases, in this instance?
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    Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 26,530

    Get Andrew Stephenson off the stage. No-one cares.

    I do.
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    Get Andrew Stephenson off the stage. No-one cares.

    I had no idea who he was. Brady on now.
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    NigelbNigelb Posts: 62,474

    rcs1000 said:

    ping said:

    Selebian said:

    eek said:

    This is a rough(ish) guide to energy costs assuming the October prices take effect
    Usages costs at 52p per kwh

    I'm surprised the oven uses less energy per hour than a hob ring. I guess things usually take longer in the oven tho. But if you can fill it with meals you can microwave later that could make savings.
    Oven pretty low energy draw once it's up to temperature, I should think (which takes, what, 10 minutes or so?). At that point the thermostat cycles the element on and off as needed, so there are quite some periods when the energy draw is near zero. We've got a new oven in last few weeks as part of kitchen/extension work and it really is almost cool to touch even in use - as with everything else I guess the insulation has got much better. Of course, the thing being cooked is an energy sink too.

    Traditional hob is losing energy to the air (or to the pan which loses it to the air) all the time. Induction similar, although without the direct hob to air energy transfer.
    You can transfer a lot of stuff done on the hob to a microwave with little effort.

    Eg, you can perfectly adequately steam/boil veg/rice with the correct tool. Much more energy efficient.
    Risotto in the microwave is dead easy and quick.
    What kind of witchcraft is this? Risotto isn't meant to be quick. It's meant to be a labour of love.
    Risotto in the microwave has two huge advantages - it's quick so I can cook a healthy and tasty family meal from scratch in 40 minutes after getting home from work. But more importantly, it really triggers precious foodie types.
    It takes me 40 mins using a hob.
    How are you doing it in the microwave ?
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    dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 27,952
    Brady now telling us the interminable details of the last 2 months.
    We know only too well.
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    wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 6,930
    Ted Crilly on stage
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    GhedebravGhedebrav Posts: 3,001

    Leon said:

    Dura_Ace said:

    Leon said:



    @NickPalmer may have come up with the most controversial opinion of his PB career. "I never bother cooking for more than 10 minutes"

    !!!!

    I don't think I've ever cooked anything. Food is just fuel for cycling and to be highly optimised toward that end.
    Yeah, but you also told us in high style that you were "never going traveling again, fuck that foreign travel shit, you fucking cocksuckers" and about two weeks later you went to Cairo
    I can imagine that cooking is less fun for vegans

    Not so :)

    Though the austere protestant idea of food-as-fuel-alone is about as far from my outlook of eating as you can get.
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    Truss has won, can see it on her face, opposite for Sunak.
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    TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 114,358
    edited September 2022
    Yup, you can tell the result


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    MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 50,095
    Foxy said:

    Have I tuned into PB, or to an episode of Ready, Steady, Cook?

    It's Leon.

    So Ready, Steady, Cock.....
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    ChrisChris Posts: 11,117
    edited September 2022
    Nigelb said:

    rcs1000 said:

    ping said:

    Selebian said:

    eek said:

    This is a rough(ish) guide to energy costs assuming the October prices take effect
    Usages costs at 52p per kwh

    I'm surprised the oven uses less energy per hour than a hob ring. I guess things usually take longer in the oven tho. But if you can fill it with meals you can microwave later that could make savings.
    Oven pretty low energy draw once it's up to temperature, I should think (which takes, what, 10 minutes or so?). At that point the thermostat cycles the element on and off as needed, so there are quite some periods when the energy draw is near zero. We've got a new oven in last few weeks as part of kitchen/extension work and it really is almost cool to touch even in use - as with everything else I guess the insulation has got much better. Of course, the thing being cooked is an energy sink too.

    Traditional hob is losing energy to the air (or to the pan which loses it to the air) all the time. Induction similar, although without the direct hob to air energy transfer.
    You can transfer a lot of stuff done on the hob to a microwave with little effort.

    Eg, you can perfectly adequately steam/boil veg/rice with the correct tool. Much more energy efficient.
    Risotto in the microwave is dead easy and quick.
    What kind of witchcraft is this? Risotto isn't meant to be quick. It's meant to be a labour of love.
    Risotto in the microwave has two huge advantages - it's quick so I can cook a healthy and tasty family meal from scratch in 40 minutes after getting home from work. But more importantly, it really triggers precious foodie types.
    It takes me 40 mins using a hob.
    How are you doing it in the microwave ?
    Tips please on the easiest five-course meal that you can prepare while waiting for the result of a Tory leadership contest.
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    wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 6,930
    edited September 2022
    Nigelb said:

    rcs1000 said:

    ping said:

    Selebian said:

    eek said:

    This is a rough(ish) guide to energy costs assuming the October prices take effect
    Usages costs at 52p per kwh

    I'm surprised the oven uses less energy per hour than a hob ring. I guess things usually take longer in the oven tho. But if you can fill it with meals you can microwave later that could make savings.
    Oven pretty low energy draw once it's up to temperature, I should think (which takes, what, 10 minutes or so?). At that point the thermostat cycles the element on and off as needed, so there are quite some periods when the energy draw is near zero. We've got a new oven in last few weeks as part of kitchen/extension work and it really is almost cool to touch even in use - as with everything else I guess the insulation has got much better. Of course, the thing being cooked is an energy sink too.

    Traditional hob is losing energy to the air (or to the pan which loses it to the air) all the time. Induction similar, although without the direct hob to air energy transfer.
    You can transfer a lot of stuff done on the hob to a microwave with little effort.

    Eg, you can perfectly adequately steam/boil veg/rice with the correct tool. Much more energy efficient.
    Risotto in the microwave is dead easy and quick.
    What kind of witchcraft is this? Risotto isn't meant to be quick. It's meant to be a labour of love.
    Risotto in the microwave has two huge advantages - it's quick so I can cook a healthy and tasty family meal from scratch in 40 minutes after getting home from work. But more importantly, it really triggers precious foodie types.
    It takes me 40 mins using a hob.
    How are you doing it in the microwave ?
    Putting the microwave on the hob. How else?
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    MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 50,095
    PM Truss.

    Gawd help us.
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    glwglw Posts: 9,549
    FFS.
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    EabhalEabhal Posts: 5,887
    Cookie said:

    Our local boozer, which I have sung the praises of many times on here, is the 9th best pub in the UK according to Timeout. I would heartily recommend a visit.

    https://www.timeout.com/uk/food-and-drink/best-pubs-in-the-uk

    That's a fun list. A bit London-heavy - I concede that London does have some very good pubs, but I think it may also owe a bit to the location of the journalists.
    The pub at the top of the list looks a tad discouraging from the outside!
    I've been to Nos 5, 6 and 13.
    I can certainly vouch enthusiastically for The Marble Arch, Manchester, and the pub in Old Radnor is the one pub where I've had a Sunday lunch as good as a home cooked Sunday lunch.
    The canny man's is good - they let me in when I had a severe case of runners diarrhea on the way back from a long run in the Pentlands.

    Now, on Liz Truss ...
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    HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 116,980
    edited September 2022
    Conservative Leadership Contest result

    Sunak 60,399
    Truss 81,326

    Truss elected
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    Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 32,875
    NEW:

    Twelve Conservative MPs are planning to submit letters of no confidence in Liz Truss to force a leadership election and get Boris Johnson back as leader by Christmas.

    Source:
    https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/tory-mps-plot-bring-back-27901163
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    Why a speech before the results

    Stupid

    After months of messing the country around. Now some bloke is giving a speech making the country wait, again. Get to the result, get on with it.

    https://twitter.com/iainmartin1/status/1566751647899975680
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    dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 27,952
    Not an overwhelming margin at all.
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    Liz Truss.

    Boom. My bet lost, but the right choice was made.
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    FoxyFoxy Posts: 44,578

    Ted Crilly on stage

    Chris said:

    Nigelb said:

    rcs1000 said:

    ping said:

    Selebian said:

    eek said:

    This is a rough(ish) guide to energy costs assuming the October prices take effect
    Usages costs at 52p per kwh

    I'm surprised the oven uses less energy per hour than a hob ring. I guess things usually take longer in the oven tho. But if you can fill it with meals you can microwave later that could make savings.
    Oven pretty low energy draw once it's up to temperature, I should think (which takes, what, 10 minutes or so?). At that point the thermostat cycles the element on and off as needed, so there are quite some periods when the energy draw is near zero. We've got a new oven in last few weeks as part of kitchen/extension work and it really is almost cool to touch even in use - as with everything else I guess the insulation has got much better. Of course, the thing being cooked is an energy sink too.

    Traditional hob is losing energy to the air (or to the pan which loses it to the air) all the time. Induction similar, although without the direct hob to air energy transfer.
    You can transfer a lot of stuff done on the hob to a microwave with little effort.

    Eg, you can perfectly adequately steam/boil veg/rice with the correct tool. Much more energy efficient.
    Risotto in the microwave is dead easy and quick.
    What kind of witchcraft is this? Risotto isn't meant to be quick. It's meant to be a labour of love.
    Risotto in the microwave has two huge advantages - it's quick so I can cook a healthy and tasty family meal from scratch in 40 minutes after getting home from work. But more importantly, it really triggers precious foodie types.
    It takes me 40 mins using a hob.
    How are you doing it in the microwave ?
    Tips please on the easiest five-course meal that you can prepare while waiting for the result of a Tory leadership contest.
    First turn on the Aga...
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    81326 v 60,399
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    Under 60% for Liz
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    ohnotnowohnotnow Posts: 2,919
    This is where Truss tears her skin off and reveals herself to be a Lizard, right?
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    SelebianSelebian Posts: 7,404

    Yup, you can tell the result


    New PM announced 'live'? I should hope so! But also 'short' - shock Sunak win?
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    bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 21,846
    edited September 2022
    81.3k (57%)
    60.4k (43%)
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    MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 25,124
    HYUFD said:

    Conservative Leadership Contest result

    Truss 60,399
    Sunak 81,326

    Truss elected

    On 19,000 less than Sunak?
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    LeonLeon Posts: 46,994
    Chris said:

    Nigelb said:

    rcs1000 said:

    ping said:

    Selebian said:

    eek said:

    This is a rough(ish) guide to energy costs assuming the October prices take effect
    Usages costs at 52p per kwh

    I'm surprised the oven uses less energy per hour than a hob ring. I guess things usually take longer in the oven tho. But if you can fill it with meals you can microwave later that could make savings.
    Oven pretty low energy draw once it's up to temperature, I should think (which takes, what, 10 minutes or so?). At that point the thermostat cycles the element on and off as needed, so there are quite some periods when the energy draw is near zero. We've got a new oven in last few weeks as part of kitchen/extension work and it really is almost cool to touch even in use - as with everything else I guess the insulation has got much better. Of course, the thing being cooked is an energy sink too.

    Traditional hob is losing energy to the air (or to the pan which loses it to the air) all the time. Induction similar, although without the direct hob to air energy transfer.
    You can transfer a lot of stuff done on the hob to a microwave with little effort.

    Eg, you can perfectly adequately steam/boil veg/rice with the correct tool. Much more energy efficient.
    Risotto in the microwave is dead easy and quick.
    What kind of witchcraft is this? Risotto isn't meant to be quick. It's meant to be a labour of love.
    Risotto in the microwave has two huge advantages - it's quick so I can cook a healthy and tasty family meal from scratch in 40 minutes after getting home from work. But more importantly, it really triggers precious foodie types.
    It takes me 40 mins using a hob.
    How are you doing it in the microwave ?
    Tips please on the easiest five-course meal that you can prepare while waiting for the result of a Tory leadership contest.
    From now on, a Nick Palmer Supper will be the PB equivalent of a "New York Minute"
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    EabhalEabhal Posts: 5,887
    Fucking hell she didn't even acknowledge Sunak on the way up?!
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    Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 26,530
    Truss 81,326
    Sunak 60,399

    Truss 57.4%
    Sunak 42.6%
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    GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 20,797
    In Liz We Trusst
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    MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 50,095
    Female PMs:

    Conservatives 3

    Labour 0
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    AlistairMAlistairM Posts: 2,004
    HYUFD said:

    Conservative Leadership Contest result

    Truss 60,399
    Sunak 81,326

    Truss elected

    Truss gets fewer votes and wins!

    57.4 vs 42.6
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    MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 44,319
    HYUFD said:

    Conservative Leadership Contest result

    Truss 60,399
    Sunak 81,326

    Truss elected

    How very Lib Dem of you. Wining Here!
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    Y'all be careful out there!

    😈👿
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    ChrisChris Posts: 11,117
    HYUFD said:

    Conservative Leadership Contest result

    Truss 60,399
    Sunak 81,326

    Truss elected

    Some mistake surely.
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    HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 116,980
    HYUFD said:

    Conservative Leadership Contest result

    Truss 60,399
    Sunak 81,326

    Truss elected

    Truss wins 57% to 43% for Sunak so a clear win but a bit closer than expected, in fact the closest membership vote of any Tory leadership contest since Tory members got a vote after the 1997 general election
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    PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 75,909
    Yeeeesssssssssssssw
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    MoonRabbitMoonRabbit Posts: 12,415
    Eabhal said:

    Fucking hell she didn't even acknowledge Sunak on the way up?!

    Should have shaken his hand.
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    Jolyon Maugham is going to be unbearable today.
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    LeonLeon Posts: 46,994
    THE NECKLACE
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    AlistairM said:

    HYUFD said:

    Conservative Leadership Contest result

    Truss 60,399
    Sunak 81,326

    Truss elected

    Truss gets fewer votes and wins!

    57.4 vs 42.6
    Appalling numbers for Truss considering what we have been told about how she had swept the membership off their feet.
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    RobDRobD Posts: 58,961
    Chris said:

    HYUFD said:

    Conservative Leadership Contest result

    Truss 60,399
    Sunak 81,326

    Truss elected

    Some mistake surely.
    That's how the Tories count votes.
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    SelebianSelebian Posts: 7,404

    HYUFD said:

    Conservative Leadership Contest result

    Truss 60,399
    Sunak 81,326

    Truss elected

    On 19,000 less than Sunak?
    81-60 = 19? They say education standards are slipping, but given the relative (I think) ages of you two we can safely assume they've always been awful :tongue:
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    MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 50,095
    Oh dear. Waiting for the applause that doesn't come.

    Sign of things to come....
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    With Boris, I had a firm view before he became PM that he was totally unsuited for the job, and used his time as MoL as evidence.

    I get no such feeling with Truss: I don't think she'll be very good in the role (and I hope for the sake of the country that I'm wrong), but it's much more likely that she'll surprise on the upside than Boris. Say, 0.02% compared to 0.00001% ;)

    But good luck to her. It's a tough job at a very tough time.
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    LeonLeon Posts: 46,994
    I miss Boris. @HYUFD is right

    The Tories have made a mahoosive error
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    RazedabodeRazedabode Posts: 2,977
    I think Truss can’t appoint a cabinet full of her right wingers based on those numbers.

    She’s fecked from day one. Not really a strong mandate from the membership , none from the country
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    OnboardG1OnboardG1 Posts: 1,277

    Sunak should be pleased with that. Lost with honour.

    Puts him in a strong position if Truss fucks it tbh. That was not an especially convincing win.
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    HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 116,980
    Truss started with a tribute to Boris, now setting out her own plans
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    glwglw Posts: 9,549
    This is a crap speech. Did she not prepare it?
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    This speech is a little bit "cheese", isn't it?
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    EabhalEabhal Posts: 5,887

    81.3k (57%)
    60.4k (43%)

    That's kinda close. Just wonder if Sunak had stuck to his guns on competence/realism, he might have squeezed through.
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    OnboardG1 said:

    Sunak should be pleased with that. Lost with honour.

    Puts him in a strong position if Truss fucks it tbh. That was not an especially convincing win.
    Yep. He should stick around now rather than piss off to CA. He has a great chance to the 'I bloody told you all so' candidate in a year.
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    RazedabodeRazedabode Posts: 2,977
    Oh - and I’d be well chuffed if I were Sunak. I’d sit out this next phase of govt and make a comeback when it all goes inevitably tits up
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    ChrisChris Posts: 11,117
    Leon said:

    I miss Boris. @HYUFD is right

    The Tories have made a mahoosive error

    Six months of Truss followed by more of Boris could be really good - for Labour.
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    eristdooferistdoof Posts: 4,887
    RobD said:

    Chris said:

    HYUFD said:

    Conservative Leadership Contest result

    Truss 60,399
    Sunak 81,326

    Truss elected

    Some mistake surely.
    That's how the Tories count votes.
    They've learnt it from Trump!
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    MoonRabbitMoonRabbit Posts: 12,415
    Leon said:

    I miss Boris. @HYUFD is right

    The Tories have made a mahoosive error

    Compared to the gravitas and charm the previous speakers on this podium, this is awful speech making. It’s as bad as the cheese speech. 🫣
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    Ooft, this is a bit cringey. That awkward pause after saying Boris is loved from Kyiv to Carlisle...
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