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  • TazTaz Posts: 6,545
    Nigelb said:

    DavidL said:

    One thing that I have noticed is that Liz Truss has a peculiarly expressive face. The photographers are going to have fun with that. I hope she doesn't plan to play poker with the government finances.

    They are battling to make her look fresh, not fatigued - though the FO workload plus electioneering travel must be hell.

    I think Liz big eyes so important to her communication, I hope they haven’t tampered with them to make them too rigid. She would of course then photograph well, but communicate poorly without the expressive face moving.

    In recent weeks I think her stylist is turning her abit into a Mondasian Cyberman. Do you see my point?


    Is that a gimp mask ?
    Original cyberman costume from the last story of the William Hartnell era, the tenth planet.

    Based on a gimp mask. Possibly.

    One of the guys who was one of the original cyber men gave up acting and went into business. Made a fortune selling the office toy that was basically 5 steel balls held on wire which would bounce into and off each other to modest office based amusement.
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 28,703
    kjh said:

    Chris said:

    So PB Brains Trust. Do we agree that the forecast fuel bills levels are unsustainable politically for the government? What options do they have since they cannot magic new generation capacity or gas supply sources in time for the coming winter? Short term actions: Price capping per unit with the difference paid by government borrowing? Force majeure stopping North Sea gas exports from the UK? Long term actions: Orders in council to start mass fracking pilots with protesting made illegal? Ordering micro nuke pilot plants? Building Swansea Bay tidal lagoons?

    What would you do?

    I love these types of questions.

    The answer (from what I have managed to glean from PBers more knowledgeable than myself) is in two parts. Firstly, creating enough power generation to decouple electricity from the price of gas, meaning at least leccy is affordable.

    To do that:
    1. Delay (again) the decommissioning of that nuclear plant. No way that should be happening.
    2. Repurpose some gas power stations to burn other fuel this winter
    ...
    Yes, should be simple enough to convert a gas-fired power station to burn something else in a couple of months.

    How about also repurposing solar panels to work off moonshine?
    @hyufd will just tell you, you are just being negative. Get a few million engineers on it and that should be fixed in a weekend.
    Helpfully achieved by defining engineers as including toilet cleaners etc. (important as the latter are).
  • DougSealDougSeal Posts: 8,523
    Taz said:

    Nigelb said:

    DavidL said:

    One thing that I have noticed is that Liz Truss has a peculiarly expressive face. The photographers are going to have fun with that. I hope she doesn't plan to play poker with the government finances.

    They are battling to make her look fresh, not fatigued - though the FO workload plus electioneering travel must be hell.

    I think Liz big eyes so important to her communication, I hope they haven’t tampered with them to make them too rigid. She would of course then photograph well, but communicate poorly without the expressive face moving.

    In recent weeks I think her stylist is turning her abit into a Mondasian Cyberman. Do you see my point?


    Is that a gimp mask ?
    Original cyberman costume from the last story of the William Hartnell era, the tenth planet.

    Based on a gimp mask. Possibly.

    One of the guys who was one of the original cyber men gave up acting and went into business. Made a fortune selling the office toy that was basically 5 steel balls held on wire which would bounce into and off each other to
    modest office based amusement.
    My Dad had one of those. Kept it as an ornament in our living room for a bit.
  • DougSealDougSeal Posts: 8,523
    For those who manage to keep their jobs I don’t think working in the office will be such an unattractive option this winter.
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 28,703
    kjh said:

    Chris said:

    So PB Brains Trust. Do we agree that the forecast fuel bills levels are unsustainable politically for the government? What options do they have since they cannot magic new generation capacity or gas supply sources in time for the coming winter? Short term actions: Price capping per unit with the difference paid by government borrowing? Force majeure stopping North Sea gas exports from the UK? Long term actions: Orders in council to start mass fracking pilots with protesting made illegal? Ordering micro nuke pilot plants? Building Swansea Bay tidal lagoons?

    What would you do?

    I love these types of questions.

    The answer (from what I have managed to glean from PBers more knowledgeable than myself) is in two parts. Firstly, creating enough power generation to decouple electricity from the price of gas, meaning at least leccy is affordable.

    To do that:
    1. Delay (again) the decommissioning of that nuclear plant. No way that should be happening.
    2. Repurpose some gas power stations to burn other fuel this winter
    ...
    Yes, should be simple enough to convert a gas-fired power station to burn something else in a couple of months.

    How about also repurposing solar panels to work off moonshine?
    @hyufd will just tell you, you are just being negative. Get a few million engineers on it and that should be fixed in a weekend.
    Also a slight problem with converting a gas-fired station to burn trash, as the stray tin cans and nappies tend to mess up the gas turbine blades (and block the following steam generator tubes if there is one). Or jam the valves if it is a gas piston engine plant.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 46,853
    Good article about the Pfizer/Moderna lawsuit.
    https://www.science.org/content/blog-post/mrna-vaccine-patent-fight-expands

    It actually sounds quite a lot like the antibody lawsuits, which went on for many years. It's complicated; a lot of other people's discoveries were involved in commercialising the technology; and there isn't one thing, but many different things in dispute.

    Just a flavour:
    ...Specifically, they say that Moderna patents filed between 2010 and 2016 have been infringed, and in their press release they highlight two features in particular. They point out that Pfizer took several mRNA vaccine candidates into clinical testing (including some that they say would not have infringed), but ultimately picked one “that has the exact mRNA chemical modification” as theirs. They say that they began developing this in 2010 and were the first to validate it in human trials in 2015. Without seeing the lawsuit itself (which I’m sure we’ll get a look at soon), they have to be talking about pseudouridine incorporation. I am not going to try to do a detailed evaluation of Moderna’s IP here - people get paid a lot of money to do that sort of thing, because it ain’t easy - and I am not going to pass any judgment on who has a case and who doesn’t. But this is surely not going to be as straightforward as the Moderna press release makes it sound (what patent fight ever is?) The first thing to know is that the pseudouridine idea, with its higher levels of transcription and lower immunogenicity, was discovered in 2008 by Katalin Karikó and Drew Weissman and co-workers, and both Moderna and BioNTech licensed their patents. So there’s going to be a lot to work through here - not least because Moderna at first did not license this technology, claiming that it had its own modification and that BioNTech copied that. It’s a mess....
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 48,934

    New Thread, Suckers

  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 28,703
    This thread has been converted from a gas turbine to burn old copies of the DT and uncrecyclable wet wipes.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 29,101
    DougSeal said:

    For those who manage to keep their jobs I don’t think working in the office will be such an unattractive option this winter.

    For those who don't work at home permanently now
  • carnforthcarnforth Posts: 1,442
    rcs1000 said:

    Leon said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Leon said:

    DavidL said:

    DC children's hospital offered 'gender affirming' hysterectomies for kids, audio and deleted webpage reveal

    A Children's National Hospital employee in Washington, D.C. is heard on a recording saying that hysterectomies have been done on children younger than 16


    https://www.foxnews.com/us/dc-childrens-hospital-offered-gender-affirming-hysterectomies-kids-audio-deleted-webpage-reveal

    They are going to be so sued for this in years to come.
    it is depraved beyond imagining. People need to do jailtime

    Non-medical hysterectomies for kids under 16. How can that ever be permissible or moral. It is the weird shit you read about in disgusting cruel dictatorships, like Japanese experimenting on American GIs

    But this is in US hospitals??
    What is a "non-medical" hysterectamy?

    Because - one would think - removing of the womb would be inherently medical.
    I mean one that is not done for an urgent physical and medical reason, like disease or injury; instead, a surgery that is elective

    No girl should have her uterus removed before she is 16. How can we even be discussing this evil shit?

    I think you mean:

    No girl, absent a serious medical condition like cancer, should have her uterus removed before the age of 16.
    Of course, if you buy into the idea that she is actually a boy, and always has been, as these people do, you can pretend it’s nothing at all! Just some extra, uneeded, tissue. Easy peasy.
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 20,303

    ydoethur said:

    HYUFD said:

    Leon said:

    HYUFD said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    DougSeal said:

    DougSeal said:

    DougSeal said:

    Nigelb said:
    Idiotic.

    Macron is not a friend, he's the President of France but no friend. He's not a foe either.

    Why do muppets feel the need to pretend the President of France is our friend?
    Because we’re both western democracies in NATO and frankly the way things are going western democracies all need all the friends they can get.

    So are Orban, Erdogan and Trump "friends"?
    Trump isn't in power. Comparing Macron to Orban and Erdogan just reemphasises the Francophobia you have so often shown on this board.
    Trump was in power.

    Orban and Erdogan are the leaders of NATO allies of ours.
    Hungary and Turkey are barely democracies though. Anyway, if they are non-hostile powers then they are friends. That's the language of diplomacy. If she doesn't understand that then she's not up to the job. Why wind people up unnessessarily? If you want to do that come on here.
    Two separate things here. I agree with you about the idiocy of Truss so I am not agreeing with Bart on that bit.

    But Turkey and Hungary are, by our own definitions, democracies. We may not agree with the choices the people make nor with the actions of the elected governments but they are elected by popular mandate and have not, as yet, chosen to move away from that system of electing their governments.

    When criticising other countries by calling them 'barely democracies' it is worth baring in mind that plenty of people - including no small number on PB - consider the UK to be barely a democracy because of our electoral system. I happen to disagree with them but they have a logical argument for this.

    I would also agree with Bart that, although I think it is deeply stupid for our prospective PM to say it, there are no friends in international diplomacy, only overlapping spheres of self interest.

    “We have no eternal allies, and we have no perpetual enemies. Our interests are eternal and perpetual.”

    - Lord Palmerston
    Truss wasn't referring to France, she was specifically asked about Macron

    And the jury really is out as to whether HE is a friend or foe of the UK, I'm tempted to say more foe than friend. Either way, leaders are entirely different to countries

    If Starmer becomes PM in 2024, and Trump is elected prez the same year, and Starmer is asked "is Trump friend or foe", what should he say?
    "The United States and the United Kingdom have a relationship going back centuries which is vital to the security of the free world and is bigger than the temporary holders of office, whether that is President Trump or myself. Values are more important than individuals."

    If you can't say anything nice, say nothing. Or better still, use lots of words to say nothing.
    But it is a politician waffling, typically

    Truss gave a direct answer, and an accurate one. The jury IS out on Macron. He has been quite hostile to Britain at several junctures. Therefor I would say: a foe, as things stand. Truss has yet to decide

    If she'd been asked about FRANCE I am sure she would have said FRIEND (and rightly so)
    Why thank you. Waffle was the effect I was after- it's the difference between a diplomat and a polemicist.

    Incidentally, Bozza had hit the mark in his unique way.

    Boris Johnson says Emmanuel Macron is a 'tres bon buddy' of the UK

    https://twitter.com/JasonGroves1/status/1563119645212954624

    Matey, jokey, Franglais mangled just enough to not be grovelly.
    Yes, looks like Truss already needs Boris to step in and sort out her gaffes
    I increasingly get the sense that you are in despair about Truss - you're really not keen at all, are you?

    That should worry the Tory Party, as you are usually the absolute epitome of devout loyalty to the leader. But you will struggle with Truss, I suspect.
    Truss will be DIFFERENT to Boris. Not as charming or funny, but not as feral and selfish. She may surprise on the upside. She's s smart and confident and she is nowhere near as boring as TMay, Brown or Starmer

    My guess is that no Tory leader (including Boris, probably) could overcome the headwinds we now face, and after 12 years in office - the public want the Tories gone even if they dislike Labour

    But Truss definitely has a chance, and she will cling on to that. Tories should not despair
    Truss is Boris without the charisma and May without the gravitas and seriousness
    Tory implosion KLAXON!!!

    If they've lost Hyufd, TSE will spend the night of the next election obsessing about stepmoms.
    Are we sure that won't happen anyway?
    HYUFD has not shown much form throughout the Tory leadership contest sadly. Consistently backing losers. I believe he's not really over losing Boris, and everything he posts on this issue must be seen as coloured by what essentially amounts to mild grief.
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