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The money goes on Truss to be PM after next election – politicalbetting.com
The money goes on Truss to be PM after next election – politicalbetting.com
My own view is that Truss punters are overstating her prospects because the challenge facing her is so much greater than Starmer. For the latter could be the post-election PM even if LAB has fewer votes and MPs than the Tories.
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Niiigel, Ni-gel Far-age, Thanks For Stopping the Hordes!
Thar's what our smiling, rosy-cheeked children will sing, on this:
the Feast of Leave.
And Brexit Day shall ne'er go by,
From this day to the ending of the world,
But we in it shall be remembered, with our cheers
We few, we happy few, we band of Brexiteers
2m attend an Anglican church ONCE A MONTH or more?
That's a mere 3% of the population. And that hardly shows a devout devotion anyways.
Betfair next prime minister
1.11 Liz Truss 90%
10 Rishi Sunak 10%
Next Conservative leader
1.11 Liz Truss 90%
10 Rishi Sunak 10%
Good point though. Brexit as an 11 year period of madness 2020-2031? Who knows?
Though I suppose that could incite a load of leftie remainers to arrive and tip said statue into said Channel. Shame.
Brits don’t give a xxxx for abstract concepts like (purported) sovereignty if they come with the cost of having to queue for five hours to go on holiday.
However yes she will have a very difficult time to avoid defeat, her new Thatcherite economics combined with closeness to Boris and hard Brexit is not the best way to win either the redwall or the remaining Remain seats in the bluewall
There are 16,000 C of E churches in England (presumably a few more in Sco, NI and Wales)
Plus 42 cathedrals (which will get big crowds for Evensongs and the like)
2 million divided by 16,000 = 125
That means each church needs to get just 125 visitors spread over four Sundays, and some other services
Some will get much less than that, if any, but some churches will get way more than that - and add in the big numbers for the cathedrals - and then it sounds quite feasible
The very idea that a party led by a Papist is the defender of the CofE and its antiquated role as established religion. And then there's the Moggster - another Left Footer.
These aren't lads who go around singing The Sash.
Indeed the last time a majority of Anglicans in the UK did not vote Tory was 1997
And you will come on this site and ask my forgiveness, and apologise for being so wrong. I shall try to be magnanimous, because I know you are lonely and only talk to your dog
What is Liz going to do (or not do) that Boris wasn't doing (or was doing) that will turn Conservative fortunes around?
Because, apart from the trivial (not keeping sex pests in the Whips' Office) and the downright dangerous (assuming government can spend like a sailor without consequences), it's not obvious.
To the tune of “Oh tannenbaum”
Oh Brexit day, oh Brexit day
What glorious freedom came of you
Oh Brexit day, oh Brexit day
The 48 v 52
Nigel Farage was the star
He showed us who really are
Oh Brexit day, oh Brexit day
We are the best country by far.
I don't really believe he's heart-on-sleeve patriotic and loves the monarchy no matter how many flags he puts up around him.
It's pretty obvious he's got conventional north London left-wing views at heart - probably similar to @kinabalu - and would go full Woke, flip to a republic and re-join the EU - with the euro on top - if he could.
People will sniff that insincerity out.
Piquantly, it's probably about the same number as attended church in Britain in, say, 1500. It's just that the UK has grown a bit since then
Patriotism comes in many forms - surrounding yourself with flags is just one.
There are also 85 million Anglicans worldwide still
The question is whether we get Queen Mary I next or a long Queen Elizabeth I reign who effectively settles it for good.
Liz Truss should start commissioning actual hymns for Brexit Day, and poems and ditties and the like - as we turn it into a proper national holiday. People WANT to rejoice about Brexit, it's just silly red tape holding them back, so give everyone the day off so everyone can express their gratitude to the Brexiteers
Apparently she isn't going to put up taxes which haven't gone up yet anyways. So, no change there.
Apart from which, she seems to be carrying on exactly the same with a bit extra red meat thrown to the base, who are still voting Tory anyway (they are the base after all).
Other than that, well, she isn't Boris. But there's not a great deal of evidence that's a net electoral benefit.
Almost as if it isn't down to Brexit at all but the French playing silly buggers. Which ISTR they were not disinclined to do when we were members.
I voted Leave because I thought the EU was an institution on the verge of trouble. Nothing I've seen since - response to covid, to Ukraine, to the impending Euro crisis - causes me to change my mind. The risks of Brexit are nothing like as big as the risks of Bremain.
I guess we also enjoyed marching with the flags on the way there.
I warmed to him a bit when he called for a referendum on net zero, but I can't see the crown prince [*] supporting his ennoblement if he keeps it up.
* @Doug - Only a forriner would say "crown prince", right? Either that, or someone with horizons that stretch outside the village.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNS5dQbun4s
Edit: who are the people who've shifted from Leave to Remain, demographically? Which parties do they vote for mostly and where do they tend to live? They don't seem to be represented much by politicians.
Back on Planet Earth I think Truss will have the shortest of short honeymoons and then be taken apart as one crisis bangs into another and her incompetence outstrips the ability of the Tory bullshit machine to gloss over her faults.
As Leon also states evangelical churches in big cities get 100s joining each week and cathedrals too get a large congregation each Sunday
But the opinion that after all that has occurred the Tories are favourites is fascinating and startling.
1. The economy is f*cked.
2. The population is going to face financial hardship the like of which none of us will have experienced.
3. The CoL crisis is going to blamed fairly and squarely on this government.
Nothing the Tories can do will fix it in the next 2-3 years.
Neither Thatcher nor Churchill would stand a chance of overcoming that enormous electoral hurdle. Truss certainly won't. Even a Labour led by Corbyn would win in those circumstances.
The Tories are doomed. And rightly so.
Sorry to ruin your evening, but there it is.
The evangelicals would have had their way if Mary had not usurped Queen Jane. I think that's the branch we're heading down.
It will all end in tears.
No queues is normal - would you prefer reporters at train stations every day services run without a problem - perhaps Sky can send a reporter to my road who can claim, in hushed tones, "Newham Council today collected the rubbish from Stodge Towers just as happens every week."
On the other hand, you could be making some pointless snide little insinuation that the news only covers reports which could be construed as being negative about us leaving the EU.
If that's the case, go back and play with your toys - the grown ups are talking.
I'm trying to help you all out here.
Think you're wrong on the detail anyway. I reckon he does love his country. As for the monarchy, like many of us he probably thinks it's pretty anachronistic but also pretty harmless currently, and there are bigger fish to fry. Europe - he'll play that by ear. And as for going 'full Woke' - I haven't got a clue what that even means.
I have to take a yawning teenage daughter on a one or two day trip out of London
She's 16, bright, but easily bored, quite likes history
Any suggestions? Quirkier the better perhaps
40 years steadfastly and unerringly signing on. Ennoblement.
4 kids by different fathers before the age of 21.
Most non-league grounds visited. The largest collection of erotic postcards. Most prolific credit card fraud.
Just to make sure all groups are equally represented in the "elite".
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11064941/A-family-affair-Boris-sister-Rachel-arrives-Carries-wedding-celebration-party.html
The people get to elect the Commons, the Lords is supposed to be the chamber of the elite
I've never been to Fishbourne Palace, not even heard of it
If the same policies are done, but minus Boris's personal flaws like his propensity to lie more than the average politician does, then would that not be a significant change in its own right?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fishbourne_Roman_Palace
Just as I was when I was a relatively lone voice at the time on this site from the leave side calling for Theresa May's deal to be rejected, which ended in triumph.
I think it's more like the rats escaping on to the sinking ship.