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  • MrEdMrEd Posts: 5,578
    fitalass said:

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    John Stevens@johnestevens
    Exclusive

    Secret recording exposes how Ian Blackford directed SNP group to back party's sex pest MP

    Westminster leader told them to give Patrick Grady their "absolute full support"

    https://twitter.com/johnestevens/status/1537905336253751304

    John Stevens@johnestevens·10m
    Replying to
    @johnestevens
    In the leaked tape - obtained by @mailplus
    - a gathering of SNP MPs can be heard shouting “hear, hear” at calls for sex pest Patrick Grady to be supported by party

    John Stevens@johnestevens·11m
    👉Ian Blackford in October 2017: "I am happy to affirm SNP Westminster group will have zero tolerance of unacceptable behaviour"

    👉Ian Blackford on Tuesday: "Patrick’s going to face a number of challenges and so he should have our absolute full support"

    Have you seen Blackford’s teeth in that pic? He looks worse than Rab C Nesbitt.
  • MrEdMrEd Posts: 5,578
    stodge said:

    ydoethur said:

    <
    My mother does.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winter_of_1946–47_in_the_United_Kingdom

    There was another very bad winter in 1939-1940 especially in January of that year. The temperature in Ambleside was recorded at -21C. The country nearly ran out of coal, because so much was being burned for gas and heating and transport links were so disrupted. If Hitler had attacked then Britain would have been helpless.

    However, it is not much spoken about as Chamberlain's government for understandable reasons ordered the press not to publish anything. So everyone assumed it was just a bit cold where they were and didn't realise it nearly led to disaster.
    Sure it wasn’t 1940-1? I remember heavy snow in West Wales in Jan. 41.
    I'm pretty sure 39/40 was nationally more severe than 40/41. Back then there were regular cold spells which we would consider noteworthy - there was a sharp cold spell in January 1945. Reading the front pages you get hints of the disruption to transport and things like milk and coal supplies (all understated).

    The frozen ground helped the Soviet advance through Prussia and Poland - plenty of coverage of that. Zhukov's forces were less than 100 miles from Berlin by the end of the month - we hadn't reached the Rhine.

    Blimey @stodge, when do you get your telegram from the Queen?
  • stodgestodge Posts: 13,874
    edited June 2022
    MrEd said:

    stodge said:


    I'm pretty sure 39/40 was nationally more severe than 40/41. Back then there were regular cold spells which we would consider noteworthy - there was a sharp cold spell in January 1945. Reading the front pages you get hints of the disruption to transport and things like milk and coal supplies (all understated).

    The frozen ground helped the Soviet advance through Prussia and Poland - plenty of coverage of that. Zhukov's forces were less than 100 miles from Berlin by the end of the month - we hadn't reached the Rhine.

    Blimey @stodge, when do you get your telegram from the Queen?
    Yes, as you'll have noticed, I buggered up the blockquotes.
  • RochdalePioneersRochdalePioneers Posts: 28,901

    We took more than a million in stock before the shutters came down on the Monday afternoon.

    Still miss Woolies. Brilliant business. Right up until its spectacular collapse.

    That's a metric fuck-tonne of pick'n'mix.
    I remember Woolies in Romford almost giving away bagfuls of Star Wars figures!
    Never sold them pick and mix. But my comedy choccies story is this:

    Nestle launched a cross-platform brand called "Heaven". The confec element was a spread of twistwrap chocolates. I organised a sampling event in head office for the launch. So I took a junior colleague down to that London. Found that some div had booked the hotel for next week and had to improvise.

    Get to HQ for 7am. Courier already dropped the dumpbins and stock so we set up and start handing chocolates out to staff as they arrive at work. Commercial Director comes in, see us, marches over, picks one up out of the dumpbin and waves it in my face. "These are SHIT". And heads for the lift.

    He was right. A disastrous product.
  • GardenwalkerGardenwalker Posts: 21,298
    edited June 2022
    We have someone on this board who actually remembers 1941? Bloody hell.

    Imagine having a span of reference that encompasses everything from soldiers in puttees, and “Listen With Mother”, to the 2013 “twerking” craze and NFT apes.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 62,716

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    INSANE FOOTAGE - On the Contreras Fire in Arizona. A massive dust devil in the background of a tanker drop. Last reported at 6,700 acres the fire is on the Tohono O'odham Indian Reservation. Multiple Hotshot crews are working the fire #contrerasfire #arizona #azwx #wildfire #fire


    https://twitter.com/HotshotWake/status/1537437713816690692
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 62,716

    We have someone on this board who actually remembers 1941? Bloody hell.

    Imagine having a span of reference that encompasses everything from soldiers in puttees, and “Listen With Mother”, to the 2013 “twerking” craze and NFT apes.

    @JackW remembers 1705 I believe.

  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 32,557
    Highlights of today's match between England and Netherlands.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6nhz2okFcA
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 62,716

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    Aaron Bastani
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    Why the next Labour leader will probably be Wes Streeting. In the absence of anything resembling leadership the left within the membership has collapsed. 👇🏽

    https://twitter.com/AaronBastani/status/1537865550348664835
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 32,557
    I've studiously avoided signing up for any of these new streaming services like Netflix but I might make an exception for the new Ricky Gervais show because apparently it's excellent.

    https://www.netflix.com/gb/title/80225917
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 71,070
    .
    ydoethur said:

    Foxy said:

    ydoethur said:

    Further gross incompetence in education:

    GCSE and A-levels: Mistakes in AQA papers caused ‘pupil distress’, Ofqual says
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-61844041

    AQA did the same for chemistry - both gcse and A-level - although that isn’t mentioned in the report.

    It would make me wonder what the exams are actually worth, if I didn’t know due to the appalling mistakes OFQUAL made in drawing up the criteria, ignoring all input from both academia and secondary education, they are more or less worthless anyway.

    Personally, I preferred the curriculum of my early years as a junior doctor. The College examiners could put anything in that they thought you ought to know to be a specialist. It was the ultimate in self directed learning as in effect you had to figure out what that included, so you could devise your own curriculum.

    There could be no complaints about not getting advance notice of the topics in those days. Now we espouse self directed learning, but have such circumscribed curriculums that complaints proliferate. There is no more depressing question from a student than "are we going to be examined on this?", because if you answer "no, but it will be very useful to you as a Doctor" they switch off.

    Despite my illustrious career as a Medical Educator, or perhaps because of it, I am rather out of tune with the times. Fortunately I can play the game and fit the role, even though I see the system as fundamentally wrong-headed.
    I would say there's nothing wrong with your eyesight, frankly.

    I'm currently writing a book in all my copious free time on the failings of education. The fact that our education system has become a production line for passing fundamentally ill-conceived exams bulks large in it.

    It will probably be unpublishable but it does me good to vent my rage on something.
    Does it include thoughts on how it might be turned round ?
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 62,716
    Interesting. Very interesting...

    Hancock was today attacking Wes Streeting online.

    Do the tory high command suspect they may be facing a different opponent in GE 2022/3??

  • GardenwalkerGardenwalker Posts: 21,298

    We have someone on this board who actually remembers 1941? Bloody hell.

    Imagine having a span of reference that encompasses everything from soldiers in puttees, and “Listen With Mother”, to the 2013 “twerking” craze and NFT apes.

    @JackW remembers 1705 I believe.

    1745, surely?
  • carnforthcarnforth Posts: 4,587

    Interesting. Very interesting...

    Hancock was today attacking Wes Streeting online.

    Do the tory high command suspect they may be facing a different opponent in GE 2022/3??

    Does anyone here think that Starmer has the (balls/lack of shame) to walk back his promise to resign if he gets a FPN?
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 71,070

    We have someone on this board who actually remembers 1941? Bloody hell.

    Imagine having a span of reference that encompasses everything from soldiers in puttees, and “Listen With Mother”, to the 2013 “twerking” craze and NFT apes.

    @JackW remembers 1705 I believe.

    1745, surely?
    Yes, he’s not that old…
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 71,070
    carnforth said:

    Interesting. Very interesting...

    Hancock was today attacking Wes Streeting online.

    Do the tory high command suspect they may be facing a different opponent in GE 2022/3??

    Does anyone here think that Starmer has the (balls/lack of shame) to walk back his promise to resign if he gets a FPN?
    No.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 71,070
    Talking of lack of shame.

    https://twitter.com/jason_koebler/status/1537835917452247041
    Uvalde and Uvalde Police have hired a private law firm to fight against being required to release body camera footage and other records related to school shooting

    Files could be 'highly embarrassing,' involve 'emotional/mental distress,' it argues…
  • carnforth said:

    Interesting. Very interesting...

    Hancock was today attacking Wes Streeting online.

    Do the tory high command suspect they may be facing a different opponent in GE 2022/3??

    Does anyone here think that Starmer has the (balls/lack of shame) to walk back his promise to resign if he gets a FPN?
    Lack of shame, yes, but balls? No.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 71,070

    carnforth said:

    Interesting. Very interesting...

    Hancock was today attacking Wes Streeting online.

    Do the tory high command suspect they may be facing a different opponent in GE 2022/3??

    Does anyone here think that Starmer has the (balls/lack of shame) to walk back his promise to resign if he gets a FPN?
    Lack of shame, yes, but balls? No.
    Neither, in my view.
    Rayner has the balls, but would also still resign.
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 27,896
    ICYMI a hole in one at the US Open golf
    https://twitter.com/usopengolf/status/1537917687585570816
  • BartholomewRobertsBartholomewRoberts Posts: 21,971
    edited June 2022
    Nigelb said:

    carnforth said:

    Interesting. Very interesting...

    Hancock was today attacking Wes Streeting online.

    Do the tory high command suspect they may be facing a different opponent in GE 2022/3??

    Does anyone here think that Starmer has the (balls/lack of shame) to walk back his promise to resign if he gets a FPN?
    Lack of shame, yes, but balls? No.
    Neither, in my view.
    Rayner has the balls, but would also still resign.
    Starmer has no shame, he's Labour's Boris Johnson in a smart-fitting suit. This is a man who was prepared to stand shoulder-to-shoulder with Jeremy Corbyn long after the decent folk in Labour had resigned to the backbenches or quit the party, in order to further his own political career. He'll say anything and do anything if it will further his only agenda - which is to become PM.

    But while he'd be shameless enough to walk back his promise, as he was over standing with Corbyn, I don't think he'd have the balls to do so and so he'd go. I agree with you on Angela Rayner* though, she has some shame, so would go despite having the metaphorical balls.

    * Angela Rayner also served in Corbyn's Shadow Cabinet, but I think more as a 'true believer' in what Corbyn was standing for which is why she backed RLB, rather than Starmer who was only doing so to shamelessly further his own self-interest and to hell with any Jews who would be abused by a PM Corbyn if it meant Starmer's career took a step forwards.
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 27,896

    Nigelb said:

    carnforth said:

    Interesting. Very interesting...

    Hancock was today attacking Wes Streeting online.

    Do the tory high command suspect they may be facing a different opponent in GE 2022/3??

    Does anyone here think that Starmer has the (balls/lack of shame) to walk back his promise to resign if he gets a FPN?
    Lack of shame, yes, but balls? No.
    Neither, in my view.
    Rayner has the balls, but would also still resign.
    Starmer has no shame, he's Labour's Boris Johnson in a smart-fitting suit. This is a man who was prepared to stand shoulder-to-shoulder with Jeremy Corbyn long after the decent folk in Labour had resigned to the backbenches or quit the party, in order to further his own political career. He'll say anything and do anything if it will further his only agenda - which is to become PM.

    But while he'd be shameless enough to walk back his promise, as he was over standing with Corbyn, I don't think he'd have the balls to do so and so he'd go. I agree with you on Angela Rayner* though, she has some shame, so would go despite having the metaphorical balls.

    * Angela Rayner also served in Corbyn's Shadow Cabinet, but I think more as a 'true believer' in what Corbyn was standing for which is why she backed RLB, rather than Starmer who was only doing so to shamelessly further his own self-interest and to hell with any Jews who would be abused by a PM Corbyn if it meant Starmer's career took a step forwards.
    Corbyn did not abuse Jews. HTH.
  • Nigelb said:

    carnforth said:

    Interesting. Very interesting...

    Hancock was today attacking Wes Streeting online.

    Do the tory high command suspect they may be facing a different opponent in GE 2022/3??

    Does anyone here think that Starmer has the (balls/lack of shame) to walk back his promise to resign if he gets a FPN?
    Lack of shame, yes, but balls? No.
    Neither, in my view.
    Rayner has the balls, but would also still resign.
    Starmer has no shame, he's Labour's Boris Johnson in a smart-fitting suit. This is a man who was prepared to stand shoulder-to-shoulder with Jeremy Corbyn long after the decent folk in Labour had resigned to the backbenches or quit the party, in order to further his own political career. He'll say anything and do anything if it will further his only agenda - which is to become PM.

    But while he'd be shameless enough to walk back his promise, as he was over standing with Corbyn, I don't think he'd have the balls to do so and so he'd go. I agree with you on Angela Rayner* though, she has some shame, so would go despite having the metaphorical balls.

    * Angela Rayner also served in Corbyn's Shadow Cabinet, but I think more as a 'true believer' in what Corbyn was standing for which is why she backed RLB, rather than Starmer who was only doing so to shamelessly further his own self-interest and to hell with any Jews who would be abused by a PM Corbyn if it meant Starmer's career took a step forwards.
    Corbyn did not abuse Jews. HTH.
    Oookay ...
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 27,896

    Interesting. Very interesting...

    Hancock was today attacking Wes Streeting online.

    Do the tory high command suspect they may be facing a different opponent in GE 2022/3??

    Is Hancock really Tory high command? But it is possible that an October election is being mooted to take advantage of Labour disarray were Starmer and Rayner forced to resign.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 32,557
    edited June 2022

    Interesting. Very interesting...

    Hancock was today attacking Wes Streeting online.

    Do the tory high command suspect they may be facing a different opponent in GE 2022/3??

    Maybe the next election will be Wes Streeting vs Penny Mordaunt. I might be tempted to put a small bet on that combination if it were possible to do so.
  • AnabobazinaAnabobazina Posts: 23,485
    I see we are back luxuriating on the ludicrous PB fantasy of the United States splitting. FFS.

    Also:

    Popcorn
    Metric fuck tonne

    Add them to the list with the colour mes, heavy liftings, Ad homs, not a lawyers, it’s a views, HMGs, not an experts, north ofs, features not bugs … and all the rest of the miserable cliches that you all should know better to avoid.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 32,557
    edited June 2022
    Democrats in trouble in the USA according to this.

    Smarkets odds:

    House control: 85% Republican
    Senate control: 77% Republican

    https://smarkets.com/listing/politics/us/2022-house-and-senate-elections

  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 48,647
    edited June 2022
    Nigelb said:

    carnforth said:

    Interesting. Very interesting...

    Hancock was today attacking Wes Streeting online.

    Do the tory high command suspect they may be facing a different opponent in GE 2022/3??

    Does anyone here think that Starmer has the (balls/lack of shame) to walk back his promise to resign if he gets a FPN?
    Lack of shame, yes, but balls? No.
    Neither, in my view.
    Rayner has the balls, but would also still resign.
    There is the possibility that Starmer gets a FPN, but Rayner doesn't (some of the other partygate FPNs are that capricious and random).

    Which makes Rayner acting leader, and in pole position. It would be hard to describe her as boring, even by people who aren't fans.

    AR next PM is 150/1 with Smarkets.
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 27,896
    New thread.
  • StillWatersStillWaters Posts: 8,251

    I see we are back luxuriating on the ludicrous PB fantasy of the United States splitting. FFS.

    Also:

    Popcorn
    Metric fuck tonne

    Add them to the list with the colour mes, heavy liftings, Ad homs, not a lawyers, it’s a views, HMGs, not an experts, north ofs, features not bugs … and all the rest of the miserable cliches that you all should know better to avoid.

    It’s not a fantasy. The US really is splitting

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Madrid_Seismic_Zone
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,386
    MrEd said:

    ydoethur said:

    FT Weekend: Clinton: We are on precipice of losing our democracy.

    Echoes her comments to New Statesman from a visit and lecture in S Shields.



    These are the most dangerous times for the US republic since the civil war I think.

    More so. The Confedaracy never threatened the existence of the USA, or its democratic structures (Lincoln's umm, drastic measures in Maryland aside) just its territorial extent.

    This is existential. If Trump runs again, there is a real chance of civil war and the collapse of the Federal government.

    I'm starting to think @Dura_Ace was right and the best thing is for somebody to shoot the Orange-haired lunatic.
    Anyone else you want to take out while you are at it @ydoethur ? Maybe DeSantis, he seems a bit Trumpy. What about a few of the SC Justices as well so R v W is kept?
    You are very touchy about Trump aren’t you, despite the fact it’s becoming increasingly clear he’s a fraudster, traitor and murderer?

    Anyway, Trump aside my top target would be the DfE.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,386
    Nigelb said:

    .

    ydoethur said:

    Foxy said:

    ydoethur said:

    Further gross incompetence in education:

    GCSE and A-levels: Mistakes in AQA papers caused ‘pupil distress’, Ofqual says
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-61844041

    AQA did the same for chemistry - both gcse and A-level - although that isn’t mentioned in the report.

    It would make me wonder what the exams are actually worth, if I didn’t know due to the appalling mistakes OFQUAL made in drawing up the criteria, ignoring all input from both academia and secondary education, they are more or less worthless anyway.

    Personally, I preferred the curriculum of my early years as a junior doctor. The College examiners could put anything in that they thought you ought to know to be a specialist. It was the ultimate in self directed learning as in effect you had to figure out what that included, so you could devise your own curriculum.

    There could be no complaints about not getting advance notice of the topics in those days. Now we espouse self directed learning, but have such circumscribed curriculums that complaints proliferate. There is no more depressing question from a student than "are we going to be examined on this?", because if you answer "no, but it will be very useful to you as a Doctor" they switch off.

    Despite my illustrious career as a Medical Educator, or perhaps because of it, I am rather out of tune with the times. Fortunately I can play the game and fit the role, even though I see the system as fundamentally wrong-headed.
    I would say there's nothing wrong with your eyesight, frankly.

    I'm currently writing a book in all my copious free time on the failings of education. The fact that our education system has become a production line for passing fundamentally ill-conceived exams bulks large in it.

    It will probably be unpublishable but it does me good to vent my rage on something.
    Does it include thoughts on how it might be turned round ?
    No, for the simple reason that until we decide what we actually want our school system to do (one problem at the moment it’s trying to do too many things at once) there’s very little point in proposing solutions.
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