Honestly. Does this look like a country with an African style GDP per capita of $4500?
This is 1-2 km away from where I had my (excellent) bruschetta. These people are rich
A splendid mystery
Is that not true of lots of plenty of countries. The rich are relatively extremely wealthy, the average live in pretty shitty conditions. See Romania 10-15 years ago. Ukraine now (pre war).
I remember going to Panama for the first time 20 years before the massive influx of America's / Trump resorts etc, then GDP / capita $5k, areas of Panama city and exclusive resorts (not for tourists) incredible 5* luxury, drive 30 mins out of the city, people living in shacks, couldn't afford shoes.
I don’t like disparity like that, it’s unChristian. I would be leading the Rebels in the March in the Palace.
Well it why it isn't a huge surprise when something like that happens in countries with those sort of level of vast inequality concentrated among a tiny minority, or they elect really "extreme" leaders.
But Yerevan does not feel like that. Trust me, I’m here. This feels like demotic prosperity. It’s not a few cats in German cars. It’s the whole city
I’ve now walked for 2km and on it goes
So did Panama City 20 years ago. Massive modern high rises, fancy bars and restaurants, for several square kms.....while 30 mins away people lived in wooden shacks without shoes.
Well I’m intending to report back from the boondocks of Armenia soon. So I shall give my honest account! I expect it to be a lot poorer
Thing is with Panama you could see where the money was coming from, tho, no?
Drugs, tourism, shipping, the Canal, brass plate companies, money laundering
Where is the money coming from in Yerevan? Buggered if I know. But it is here. And good pick to them. They deserve it. What with all that genocide and all
I’ve decided the city it most reminds me of is Tel Aviv
California? Specifically (or especially) El Lay? Home of the Kardashians & plenty of other Armenian Americans.
FWIW, my opinion is that McFadden should be shadow Chancellor.
He has the Brown ability to tear into the government's paper thin case.
Yes, he's good. Quietly spoken and rather understated - not a tub-thumper - but all the more powerful for that as people have to listen carefully. Very articulate.
It now looks like only seven asylum seekers will be on the flight tomorrow following further challenges by the Union representing border force personnel. The policy of deportations to Rwanda is becoming totally unworkable.
Time for the govt to recognise the opposition to it and think again.
I'm puzzled by this - who is paying for the flight to Kigali? It also doesn't sound like an affirmation of green credentials for such a flight to be in the air with whatever CO2 footprint.
Sometimes I just wonder if the ends really do justify the means irrespective of how "popular" a policy may be.
What would amaze (and worry) me is if an AI replicated itself across multiple nodes in its cloud environment.
An AI reaching consciousness would be hugely exciting and would present the human race with an entirely new challenge which is why we do need serious global level regulation around how to move forwards because we aren't far away from this happening. I don't find any of the current AIs particularly impressive on the sentience or consciousness side of things but it is undeniable that it will happen in my lifetime and it's exciting and worrying in equal parts.
The more you understand about how they work, the more you are aware of their limitations.
And I keep on going on about this, but there's a massive amount of money involved. Groups want that funding (or to justify the funding they get...) and therefore make claims that push the edges of what they can actually do.
Admittedly it's not as bad with things like DALL-E.
Avoid the hype.
You don't seem to know as much about stuff as you think you do. You were saying the other day that Hur Hur Hur before GPS there was Loran and nothing else when actually DECCA coverage and accuracy in the Atlantic and western med was the only game in town.
40 years ago people like Michael Crichton were saying those of us who really know about computers know they will never be able to distinguish visually a capital B from an 8. There's now two problems with you trying to play the same card. One is, everyone is a programmer these days, even a humanities bore like me, and the other is: ok fine, the rules of Go are mastered in half an hour. Here's a Go board, here's AlphaGo, you can be black (and no Komi), off you go... Because it's all hype.
Do you know how ball and player tracking works?
The first time you see it, it's magic, a real example of the cleverness of machine learning. A little square around the ball, and as the game is played, the square stays around the ball.
And then you understand that you simply have 100 histograms showing peak/average colour values of balls next to grass, and that ten lines of code will find that ball. And then you understand that once you know the initial location, you can do it in a fraction of a second in every frame.
What was once inconceivable is now commonplace. But the trick was finding the algorithm for the specialised purpose, not in making the computer more intelligent.
Interestingly, it still isn't a fully solved problem. The likes of Statsbomb employ 100s of people in Egypt to manually click screens to fix up all the data.
And for sports with lots of occlusion and particularly players in similar uniforms / covered heads e.g. America Football, a really open problem.
We (Genius Sports) used to do the same. But it's getting better and better and more and more automatic.
It is, but it is like a lot of similar ML problems. Get to 90%+, then its the long tail. I would say though as a problem, it isn't a great example for what you were trying to point out, as the basics have always been quite simple and well known for donkeys years. It was more the computer processing limitation, i.e. wasn't able to multi-thread to handle doing all players at once for long periods. I coded a perfectly adequate player tracker 20 years ago, and had method for accurate high speed ball tracking same time as Hawkeye started in early 2000s.
I'm reminded of speech recognition.
We're a QUARTER CENTURY from the first usable versions of Dragon Dictate and the like. And yet Alexa and Google are merely OK. Because it turns out that 95% isn't good enough. And nor even is 99%. And getting that last 0.1% is really difficult.
TBF, the new Google translate on the Pixel is very good.
It is... but we're a quarter century on from the first amazing demos. (And this is all also happening at the same time that Moore's law is screeching to a halt.)
Well this is where the neural net becomes valuable, a computer that is seemingly much more than the sum of its parts. Once again, to all those who think I'm being negative, I'm not saying it's impossible, yet it feels a ways off.
The really big advances seem to be coming from heavily parallelised computing by GPUs rather than a CPU. Intel getting back in the game wrt semiconductor development will help too.
They suspended withdrawals via the blockchain in order to fix a bug caused by low transaction fees. Withdrawals were always possible via other means. Downtime was approx 3 hours.
And because the blockchain is public, all of this is visible so has been confirmed as true by multiple other sources.
Thr giraffe example is really importantnin understand ing limits of GPT like systems.
Think about every impressive examplemthat has been shared. How impressive would it look if it was shared without the prompt?
Yes, and now add in the fact that there's actually around 10x the conversation length that was unreleased by the crazy guy most of which is said to be extremely chatbotty and rambly. He supposedly also altered the order in which the conversations occured for the media briefing.
The other Google people are seemingly much less impressed by Lamda. At our standup this morning there was a lot of chatter about it and we've got serious domain expertise in the team, a few of our number are data scientists with doctorates and post doctorates, they seemed the least impressed by the claims.
Kudos to the guys at the whatever the fuck a stand up is, but do they understand any better than you do that you cannot usefully just *stipulate* that something just ain't sentient, no siree, not nohow, not on your ass mutherfucker, the end? I mean, if a computer wrote a play 100x better than anything by Shakespeare, why would you not still be saying Yeah feed it all the world's literature and let it process it at a trillion tps, obv it's going to output shit like that but no way is it thinking, because I say so?
How does he keep his job? Does he have photos of the editor shagging a goat or something?
He's almost as bad as Anatole Kaletsky was.
I hate people having sex with animals. It’s abuse. This editor needs to be locked where he won’t get suntan this week or any week, if this allegation is true. 😠
What would amaze (and worry) me is if an AI replicated itself across multiple nodes in its cloud environment.
An AI reaching consciousness would be hugely exciting and would present the human race with an entirely new challenge which is why we do need serious global level regulation around how to move forwards because we aren't far away from this happening. I don't find any of the current AIs particularly impressive on the sentience or consciousness side of things but it is undeniable that it will happen in my lifetime and it's exciting and worrying in equal parts.
The more you understand about how they work, the more you are aware of their limitations.
And I keep on going on about this, but there's a massive amount of money involved. Groups want that funding (or to justify the funding they get...) and therefore make claims that push the edges of what they can actually do.
Admittedly it's not as bad with things like DALL-E.
Avoid the hype.
You don't seem to know as much about stuff as you think you do. You were saying the other day that Hur Hur Hur before GPS there was Loran and nothing else when actually DECCA coverage and accuracy in the Atlantic and western med was the only game in town.
40 years ago people like Michael Crichton were saying those of us who really know about computers know they will never be able to distinguish visually a capital B from an 8. There's now two problems with you trying to play the same card. One is, everyone is a programmer these days, even a humanities bore like me, and the other is: ok fine, the rules of Go are mastered in half an hour. Here's a Go board, here's AlphaGo, you can be black (and no Komi), off you go... Because it's all hype.
Do you know how ball and player tracking works?
The first time you see it, it's magic, a real example of the cleverness of machine learning. A little square around the ball, and as the game is played, the square stays around the ball.
And then you understand that you simply have 100 histograms showing peak/average colour values of balls next to grass, and that ten lines of code will find that ball. And then you understand that once you know the initial location, you can do it in a fraction of a second in every frame.
What was once inconceivable is now commonplace. But the trick was finding the algorithm for the specialised purpose, not in making the computer more intelligent.
Interestingly, it still isn't a fully solved problem. The likes of Statsbomb employ 100s of people in Egypt to manually click screens to fix up all the data.
And for sports with lots of occlusion and particularly players in similar uniforms / covered heads e.g. America Football, a really open problem.
We (Genius Sports) used to do the same. But it's getting better and better and more and more automatic.
It is, but it is like a lot of similar ML problems. Get to 90%+, then its the long tail. I would say though as a problem, it isn't a great example for what you were trying to point out, as the basics have always been quite simple and well known for donkeys years. It was more the computer processing limitation, i.e. wasn't able to multi-thread to handle doing all players at once for long periods. I coded a perfectly adequate player tracker 20 years ago, and had method for accurate high speed ball tracking same time as Hawkeye started in early 2000s.
I'm reminded of speech recognition.
We're a QUARTER CENTURY from the first usable versions of Dragon Dictate and the like. And yet Alexa and Google are merely OK. Because it turns out that 95% isn't good enough. And nor even is 99%. And getting that last 0.1% is really difficult.
Having said that, 99% can be good enough. I've been using Word recently to proofread stuff using their text-to-speech system, and it is just about good enough for the purpose. It does make some howlers: 'green MG' was dictated as green milligram. It pronounces some common names wrong as well - but names can be difficult for humans as well.
Text-to-speech is probably a far easier problem than speech-to-text, but I was impressed by it.
Thr giraffe example is really importantnin understand ing limits of GPT like systems.
Think about every impressive examplemthat has been shared. How impressive would it look if it was shared without the prompt?
Yes, and now add in the fact that there's actually around 10x the conversation length that was unreleased by the crazy guy most of which is said to be extremely chatbotty and rambly. He supposedly also altered the order in which the conversations occured for the media briefing.
The other Google people are seemingly much less impressed by Lamda. At our standup this morning there was a lot of chatter about it and we've got serious domain expertise in the team, a few of our number are data scientists with doctorates and post doctorates, they seemed the least impressed by the claims.
Kudos to the guys at the whatever the fuck a stand up is, but do they understand any better than you do that you cannot usefully just *stipulate* that something just ain't sentient, no siree, not nohow, not on your ass mutherfucker, the end? I mean, if a computer wrote a play 100x better than anything by Shakespeare, why would you not still be saying Yeah feed it all the world's literature and let it process it at a trillion tps, obv it's going to output shit like that but no way is it thinking, because I say so?
But that's not what this is, you're ascribing achievements to this AI that haven't happened. If/when those kinds of things happen it can be assessed. I'd also suggest that intelligence isn't necessarily the same as consciousness.
What would amaze (and worry) me is if an AI replicated itself across multiple nodes in its cloud environment.
An AI reaching consciousness would be hugely exciting and would present the human race with an entirely new challenge which is why we do need serious global level regulation around how to move forwards because we aren't far away from this happening. I don't find any of the current AIs particularly impressive on the sentience or consciousness side of things but it is undeniable that it will happen in my lifetime and it's exciting and worrying in equal parts.
The more you understand about how they work, the more you are aware of their limitations.
And I keep on going on about this, but there's a massive amount of money involved. Groups want that funding (or to justify the funding they get...) and therefore make claims that push the edges of what they can actually do.
Admittedly it's not as bad with things like DALL-E.
Avoid the hype.
You don't seem to know as much about stuff as you think you do. You were saying the other day that Hur Hur Hur before GPS there was Loran and nothing else when actually DECCA coverage and accuracy in the Atlantic and western med was the only game in town.
40 years ago people like Michael Crichton were saying those of us who really know about computers know they will never be able to distinguish visually a capital B from an 8. There's now two problems with you trying to play the same card. One is, everyone is a programmer these days, even a humanities bore like me, and the other is: ok fine, the rules of Go are mastered in half an hour. Here's a Go board, here's AlphaGo, you can be black (and no Komi), off you go... Because it's all hype.
Do you know how ball and player tracking works?
The first time you see it, it's magic, a real example of the cleverness of machine learning. A little square around the ball, and as the game is played, the square stays around the ball.
And then you understand that you simply have 100 histograms showing peak/average colour values of balls next to grass, and that ten lines of code will find that ball. And then you understand that once you know the initial location, you can do it in a fraction of a second in every frame.
What was once inconceivable is now commonplace. But the trick was finding the algorithm for the specialised purpose, not in making the computer more intelligent.
Interestingly, it still isn't a fully solved problem. The likes of Statsbomb employ 100s of people in Egypt to manually click screens to fix up all the data.
And for sports with lots of occlusion and particularly players in similar uniforms / covered heads e.g. America Football, a really open problem.
We (Genius Sports) used to do the same. But it's getting better and better and more and more automatic.
It is, but it is like a lot of similar ML problems. Get to 90%+, then its the long tail. I would say though as a problem, it isn't a great example for what you were trying to point out, as the basics have always been quite simple and well known for donkeys years. It was more the computer processing limitation, i.e. wasn't able to multi-thread to handle doing all players at once for long periods. I coded a perfectly adequate player tracker 20 years ago, and had method for accurate high speed ball tracking same time as Hawkeye started in early 2000s.
I'm reminded of speech recognition.
We're a QUARTER CENTURY from the first usable versions of Dragon Dictate and the like. And yet Alexa and Google are merely OK. Because it turns out that 95% isn't good enough. And nor even is 99%. And getting that last 0.1% is really difficult.
TBF, the new Google translate on the Pixel is very good.
It is... but we're a quarter century on from the first amazing demos. (And this is all also happening at the same time that Moore's law is screeching to a halt.)
This is not my experience. 20 years ago I had to pay for Dragon and train it for days and it sucked, now I turn on a Google thing and chat shit to it and the same shit appears on the screen
So thank you everyone who recommended places to visit in Lisbon. Sorry I can't remember who to thank specifically except @Leon. Already knocked a couple off the list including eating at Brasilia Cafe which was very enjoyable. Hotel great and pretty cheap, Browns Central.
Re comments from previous thread:
@MaxPB yes I also thought Portugal had moved to e-gates. I even said so here, which just goes to show you shouldn't believe anything I say.
@BartholomewRoberts thanks for your kind comments. When we got through it became apparent that they were putting all non EU people through all gates (EU, non EU and priority) to clear the backlog. The wait wasn't too bad because of PB to pass the time otherwise it would have been horrendous. We were also clearly very unlucky to coincide with some big US flights. Sadly however it is still nothing like when we could go through the EU gates. I also made several trips during the pandemic and was spoilt by the ease of navigating non EU gates then.
@hyufd Even I will admit there are some areas where Brexit may benefit the UK, but making it harder to travel to encourage UK tourism is not one of them. I have no desire to go back to the 1950s. We should encourage people to expand their minds and experiences. You suggest Blackpool. Now I intend to make many UK trips in my retirement, but I can't experience Lisbon, Portuguese trains, the black and white festival in the Algarve, visit family who live there and attend their party in the UK can I? So you know what you can do with your suggestion.
Just out of interest do you not travel at all outside of the UK?
I am going to Italy for my cousin's wedding later this month and will brave the queues but we will follow that with a break in Anglesey supporting Brexit Britain the following month.
I expect Boris and Priti to be enjoying a summer break on Blackpool or Southend beach too with all those grateful Leave voters (when Priti has had a break from deporting asylum seekers to Rwanda)
Finally, Labour get a soundbite that will potentially massively cut through.
Now repeat it at every single opportunity until your own ears bleed.
Yes I rather like that. Applies across health, passport queues, annoying govt bureaucracy...
But doesn't quite link with the cost of living crisis and things getting more expensive or Boris Johnson's rulebreaking... need some slogans for that too.
Would that be the Binance that is - basically - the front for Tether?
Bitfinex is the front for tether. Bitfinex created Tether. They are essentially one and the same.
Binance is a different exchange. USDT can be deposited and traded there, but that's true of most exchanges.
Oops. You are correct. I stand corrected.
That's not to say that binance don't do shady things. They were the very last exchange to implement KYC, they have their own token (binance coin) that feels a bit ponzi-esque, and are being investigated by regulators for money laundering... so it's easy to get them confused
How does he keep his job? Does he have photos of the editor shagging a goat or something?
He's almost as bad as Anatole Kaletsky was.
I hate people having sex with animals. It’s abuse. This editor needs to be locked where he won’t get suntan this week or any week, if this allegation is true. 😠
Whereas imprisoning, killing and eating them is AOK? I cannot stress enough that I have no as it were dog in this fight, but if the animal goes along with it I really don't see what the problem is
How does he keep his job? Does he have photos of the editor shagging a goat or something?
He's almost as bad as Anatole Kaletsky was.
I hate people having sex with animals. It’s abuse. This editor needs to be locked where he won’t get suntan this week or any week, if this allegation is true. 😠
Whereas imprisoning, killing and eating them is AOK? I cannot stress enough that I have no as it were dog in this fight, but if the animal goes along with it I really don't see what the problem is
I've been a veggie for over 30 years (my mid-teens).
What would amaze (and worry) me is if an AI replicated itself across multiple nodes in its cloud environment.
An AI reaching consciousness would be hugely exciting and would present the human race with an entirely new challenge which is why we do need serious global level regulation around how to move forwards because we aren't far away from this happening. I don't find any of the current AIs particularly impressive on the sentience or consciousness side of things but it is undeniable that it will happen in my lifetime and it's exciting and worrying in equal parts.
The more you understand about how they work, the more you are aware of their limitations.
And I keep on going on about this, but there's a massive amount of money involved. Groups want that funding (or to justify the funding they get...) and therefore make claims that push the edges of what they can actually do.
Admittedly it's not as bad with things like DALL-E.
Avoid the hype.
You don't seem to know as much about stuff as you think you do. You were saying the other day that Hur Hur Hur before GPS there was Loran and nothing else when actually DECCA coverage and accuracy in the Atlantic and western med was the only game in town.
40 years ago people like Michael Crichton were saying those of us who really know about computers know they will never be able to distinguish visually a capital B from an 8. There's now two problems with you trying to play the same card. One is, everyone is a programmer these days, even a humanities bore like me, and the other is: ok fine, the rules of Go are mastered in half an hour. Here's a Go board, here's AlphaGo, you can be black (and no Komi), off you go... Because it's all hype.
Do you know how ball and player tracking works?
The first time you see it, it's magic, a real example of the cleverness of machine learning. A little square around the ball, and as the game is played, the square stays around the ball.
And then you understand that you simply have 100 histograms showing peak/average colour values of balls next to grass, and that ten lines of code will find that ball. And then you understand that once you know the initial location, you can do it in a fraction of a second in every frame.
What was once inconceivable is now commonplace. But the trick was finding the algorithm for the specialised purpose, not in making the computer more intelligent.
Interestingly, it still isn't a fully solved problem. The likes of Statsbomb employ 100s of people in Egypt to manually click screens to fix up all the data.
And for sports with lots of occlusion and particularly players in similar uniforms / covered heads e.g. America Football, a really open problem.
We (Genius Sports) used to do the same. But it's getting better and better and more and more automatic.
It is, but it is like a lot of similar ML problems. Get to 90%+, then its the long tail. I would say though as a problem, it isn't a great example for what you were trying to point out, as the basics have always been quite simple and well known for donkeys years. It was more the computer processing limitation, i.e. wasn't able to multi-thread to handle doing all players at once for long periods. I coded a perfectly adequate player tracker 20 years ago, and had method for accurate high speed ball tracking same time as Hawkeye started in early 2000s.
I'm reminded of speech recognition.
We're a QUARTER CENTURY from the first usable versions of Dragon Dictate and the like. And yet Alexa and Google are merely OK. Because it turns out that 95% isn't good enough. And nor even is 99%. And getting that last 0.1% is really difficult.
TBF, the new Google translate on the Pixel is very good.
It is... but we're a quarter century on from the first amazing demos. (And this is all also happening at the same time that Moore's law is screeching to a halt.)
This is not my experience. 20 years ago I had to pay for Dragon and train it for days and it sucked, now I turn on a Google thing and chat shit to it and the same shit appears on the screen
In 1998, I got an early version of IBM's speech recognition product. I sat on the floor of my bedroom and read an Economist article to it, having done a brief 10 minute training session. You needed to pause between every word. But it still got it 95% right. It was absolutely incredible.
What would amaze (and worry) me is if an AI replicated itself across multiple nodes in its cloud environment.
An AI reaching consciousness would be hugely exciting and would present the human race with an entirely new challenge which is why we do need serious global level regulation around how to move forwards because we aren't far away from this happening. I don't find any of the current AIs particularly impressive on the sentience or consciousness side of things but it is undeniable that it will happen in my lifetime and it's exciting and worrying in equal parts.
The more you understand about how they work, the more you are aware of their limitations.
And I keep on going on about this, but there's a massive amount of money involved. Groups want that funding (or to justify the funding they get...) and therefore make claims that push the edges of what they can actually do.
Admittedly it's not as bad with things like DALL-E.
Avoid the hype.
You don't seem to know as much about stuff as you think you do. You were saying the other day that Hur Hur Hur before GPS there was Loran and nothing else when actually DECCA coverage and accuracy in the Atlantic and western med was the only game in town.
40 years ago people like Michael Crichton were saying those of us who really know about computers know they will never be able to distinguish visually a capital B from an 8. There's now two problems with you trying to play the same card. One is, everyone is a programmer these days, even a humanities bore like me, and the other is: ok fine, the rules of Go are mastered in half an hour. Here's a Go board, here's AlphaGo, you can be black (and no Komi), off you go... Because it's all hype.
Do you know how ball and player tracking works?
The first time you see it, it's magic, a real example of the cleverness of machine learning. A little square around the ball, and as the game is played, the square stays around the ball.
And then you understand that you simply have 100 histograms showing peak/average colour values of balls next to grass, and that ten lines of code will find that ball. And then you understand that once you know the initial location, you can do it in a fraction of a second in every frame.
What was once inconceivable is now commonplace. But the trick was finding the algorithm for the specialised purpose, not in making the computer more intelligent.
Interestingly, it still isn't a fully solved problem. The likes of Statsbomb employ 100s of people in Egypt to manually click screens to fix up all the data.
And for sports with lots of occlusion and particularly players in similar uniforms / covered heads e.g. America Football, a really open problem.
We (Genius Sports) used to do the same. But it's getting better and better and more and more automatic.
It is, but it is like a lot of similar ML problems. Get to 90%+, then its the long tail. I would say though as a problem, it isn't a great example for what you were trying to point out, as the basics have always been quite simple and well known for donkeys years. It was more the computer processing limitation, i.e. wasn't able to multi-thread to handle doing all players at once for long periods. I coded a perfectly adequate player tracker 20 years ago, and had method for accurate high speed ball tracking same time as Hawkeye started in early 2000s.
I'm reminded of speech recognition.
We're a QUARTER CENTURY from the first usable versions of Dragon Dictate and the like. And yet Alexa and Google are merely OK. Because it turns out that 95% isn't good enough. And nor even is 99%. And getting that last 0.1% is really difficult.
TBF, the new Google translate on the Pixel is very good.
It is... but we're a quarter century on from the first amazing demos. (And this is all also happening at the same time that Moore's law is screeching to a halt.)
Well this is where the neural net becomes valuable, a computer that is seemingly much more than the sum of its parts. Once again, to all those who think I'm being negative, I'm not saying it's impossible, yet it feels a ways off.
The really big advances seem to be coming from heavily parallelised computing by GPUs rather than a CPU. Intel getting back in the game wrt semiconductor development will help too.
That's very much my view.
Incredible things are coming. But we're not there. Yet.
Interesting discussion about AI and the limitations therein. I frequently get sold ‘solutions’ which are supposed to automate much of my work and make my company’s life easier. In every case, they fall at the final test: they are not trustworthy enough to be allowed to continue alone without human checks. As it takes as long to check the work as do the work, they are useless and I don’t buy them.
So thank you everyone who recommended places to visit in Lisbon. Sorry I can't remember who to thank specifically except @Leon. Already knocked a couple off the list including eating at Brasilia Cafe which was very enjoyable. Hotel great and pretty cheap, Browns Central.
Re comments from previous thread:
@MaxPB yes I also thought Portugal had moved to e-gates. I even said so here, which just goes to show you shouldn't believe anything I say.
@BartholomewRoberts thanks for your kind comments. When we got through it became apparent that they were putting all non EU people through all gates (EU, non EU and priority) to clear the backlog. The wait wasn't too bad because of PB to pass the time otherwise it would have been horrendous. We were also clearly very unlucky to coincide with some big US flights. Sadly however it is still nothing like when we could go through the EU gates. I also made several trips during the pandemic and was spoilt by the ease of navigating non EU gates then.
@hyufd Even I will admit there are some areas where Brexit may benefit the UK, but making it harder to travel to encourage UK tourism is not one of them. I have no desire to go back to the 1950s. We should encourage people to expand their minds and experiences. You suggest Blackpool. Now I intend to make many UK trips in my retirement, but I can't experience Lisbon, Portuguese trains, the black and white festival in the Algarve, visit family who live there and attend their party in the UK can I? So you know what you can do with your suggestion.
Just out of interest do you not travel at all outside of the UK?
I am going to Italy for my cousin's wedding later this month and will brave the queues but we will follow that with a break in Anglesey supporting Brexit Britain the following month.
I expect Boris and Priti to be enjoying a summer break on Blackpool or Southend beach too with all those grateful Leave voters (when Priti has had a break from deporting asylum seekers to Rwanda)
Boris and Priti enjoying a break on Blackpool beach? Do their respective partners know?
So thank you everyone who recommended places to visit in Lisbon. Sorry I can't remember who to thank specifically except @Leon. Already knocked a couple off the list including eating at Brasilia Cafe which was very enjoyable. Hotel great and pretty cheap, Browns Central.
Re comments from previous thread:
@MaxPB yes I also thought Portugal had moved to e-gates. I even said so here, which just goes to show you shouldn't believe anything I say.
@BartholomewRoberts thanks for your kind comments. When we got through it became apparent that they were putting all non EU people through all gates (EU, non EU and priority) to clear the backlog. The wait wasn't too bad because of PB to pass the time otherwise it would have been horrendous. We were also clearly very unlucky to coincide with some big US flights. Sadly however it is still nothing like when we could go through the EU gates. I also made several trips during the pandemic and was spoilt by the ease of navigating non EU gates then.
@hyufd Even I will admit there are some areas where Brexit may benefit the UK, but making it harder to travel to encourage UK tourism is not one of them. I have no desire to go back to the 1950s. We should encourage people to expand their minds and experiences. You suggest Blackpool. Now I intend to make many UK trips in my retirement, but I can't experience Lisbon, Portuguese trains, the black and white festival in the Algarve, visit family who live there and attend their party in the UK can I? So you know what you can do with your suggestion.
Just out of interest do you not travel at all outside of the UK?
@kjh Apologies, I missed previous discussion. The street art in Lisbon is amazing. I recommend this tour, the guide takes you out to the poor areas where some of the best graffiti is - some if it is very political:
What would amaze (and worry) me is if an AI replicated itself across multiple nodes in its cloud environment.
An AI reaching consciousness would be hugely exciting and would present the human race with an entirely new challenge which is why we do need serious global level regulation around how to move forwards because we aren't far away from this happening. I don't find any of the current AIs particularly impressive on the sentience or consciousness side of things but it is undeniable that it will happen in my lifetime and it's exciting and worrying in equal parts.
The more you understand about how they work, the more you are aware of their limitations.
And I keep on going on about this, but there's a massive amount of money involved. Groups want that funding (or to justify the funding they get...) and therefore make claims that push the edges of what they can actually do.
Admittedly it's not as bad with things like DALL-E.
Avoid the hype.
You don't seem to know as much about stuff as you think you do. You were saying the other day that Hur Hur Hur before GPS there was Loran and nothing else when actually DECCA coverage and accuracy in the Atlantic and western med was the only game in town.
40 years ago people like Michael Crichton were saying those of us who really know about computers know they will never be able to distinguish visually a capital B from an 8. There's now two problems with you trying to play the same card. One is, everyone is a programmer these days, even a humanities bore like me, and the other is: ok fine, the rules of Go are mastered in half an hour. Here's a Go board, here's AlphaGo, you can be black (and no Komi), off you go... Because it's all hype.
Do you know how ball and player tracking works?
The first time you see it, it's magic, a real example of the cleverness of machine learning. A little square around the ball, and as the game is played, the square stays around the ball.
And then you understand that you simply have 100 histograms showing peak/average colour values of balls next to grass, and that ten lines of code will find that ball. And then you understand that once you know the initial location, you can do it in a fraction of a second in every frame.
What was once inconceivable is now commonplace. But the trick was finding the algorithm for the specialised purpose, not in making the computer more intelligent.
Interestingly, it still isn't a fully solved problem. The likes of Statsbomb employ 100s of people in Egypt to manually click screens to fix up all the data.
And for sports with lots of occlusion and particularly players in similar uniforms / covered heads e.g. America Football, a really open problem.
We (Genius Sports) used to do the same. But it's getting better and better and more and more automatic.
It is, but it is like a lot of similar ML problems. Get to 90%+, then its the long tail. I would say though as a problem, it isn't a great example for what you were trying to point out, as the basics have always been quite simple and well known for donkeys years. It was more the computer processing limitation, i.e. wasn't able to multi-thread to handle doing all players at once for long periods. I coded a perfectly adequate player tracker 20 years ago, and had method for accurate high speed ball tracking same time as Hawkeye started in early 2000s.
I'm reminded of speech recognition.
We're a QUARTER CENTURY from the first usable versions of Dragon Dictate and the like. And yet Alexa and Google are merely OK. Because it turns out that 95% isn't good enough. And nor even is 99%. And getting that last 0.1% is really difficult.
TBF, the new Google translate on the Pixel is very good.
It is... but we're a quarter century on from the first amazing demos. (And this is all also happening at the same time that Moore's law is screeching to a halt.)
This is not my experience. 20 years ago I had to pay for Dragon and train it for days and it sucked, now I turn on a Google thing and chat shit to it and the same shit appears on the screen
In 1998, I got an early version of IBM's speech recognition product. I sat on the floor of my bedroom and read an Economist article to it, having done a brief 10 minute training session. You needed to pause between every word. But it still got it 95% right. It was absolutely incredible.
And basically useless.
In 2019, I did a trial with Google’s voice-to-text service, for a business application of someone walking around a building describing what they see (for a facilities management software company). We trained it with all our terminology, but damn nearly every single sentence had a mistake. It was almost there, but completely useless.
Thr giraffe example is really importantnin understand ing limits of GPT like systems.
Think about every impressive examplemthat has been shared. How impressive would it look if it was shared without the prompt?
Yes, and now add in the fact that there's actually around 10x the conversation length that was unreleased by the crazy guy most of which is said to be extremely chatbotty and rambly. He supposedly also altered the order in which the conversations occured for the media briefing.
The other Google people are seemingly much less impressed by Lamda. At our standup this morning there was a lot of chatter about it and we've got serious domain expertise in the team, a few of our number are data scientists with doctorates and post doctorates, they seemed the least impressed by the claims.
Kudos to the guys at the whatever the fuck a stand up is, but do they understand any better than you do that you cannot usefully just *stipulate* that something just ain't sentient, no siree, not nohow, not on your ass mutherfucker, the end? I mean, if a computer wrote a play 100x better than anything by Shakespeare, why would you not still be saying Yeah feed it all the world's literature and let it process it at a trillion tps, obv it's going to output shit like that but no way is it thinking, because I say so?
But that's not what this is, you're ascribing achievements to this AI that haven't happened. If/when those kinds of things happen it can be assessed. I'd also suggest that intelligence isn't necessarily the same as consciousness.
Some of the graphic art is pretty bloody good, and of course we don't know if intelligence equals consciousness. The fundamental point is that you only know for certain that one entity is conscious, and that is you. Unless you aren't of course - I can't tell whether you are or not. Therefore you can only assess consciousness on the basis of output: there is no logical reason to think something is more likely to be conscious because it is made of meat
Logs on. Pros and cons of bestiality? Wasn't expecting that.
Our PM is pro bestiality.
An article penned by Boris Johnson in 2005 has been making the rounds on social media after it unveiled some disturbing views on the banned sport of fox hunting.
Writing in the Spectator magazine, which he edited at the time, he confessed a love for hunting with dogs which in part stemmed from the “semi-sexual relation with the horse” and the “military-style pleasure” of moving as a unit.
Would that be the Binance that is - basically - the front for Tether?
Bitfinex is the front for tether. Bitfinex created Tether. They are essentially one and the same.
Binance is a different exchange. USDT can be deposited and traded there, but that's true of most exchanges.
Oops. You are correct. I stand corrected.
That's not to say that binance don't do shady things. They were the very last exchange to implement KYC, they have their own token (binance coin) that feels a bit ponzi-esque, and are being investigated by regulators for money laundering... so it's easy to get them confused
Weirdly, BUSD appears to be one of the better USD stable coins. It’s run by a US subsidiary, with regular attestations (not audits, but can’t have everything) & seems to have invested the $ entirely in sensible things like Treasuries. I’d rate it as being on a par with USDC: It’s certainly far more trustworthy than Tether.
Thr giraffe example is really importantnin understand ing limits of GPT like systems.
Think about every impressive examplemthat has been shared. How impressive would it look if it was shared without the prompt?
Yes, and now add in the fact that there's actually around 10x the conversation length that was unreleased by the crazy guy most of which is said to be extremely chatbotty and rambly. He supposedly also altered the order in which the conversations occured for the media briefing.
The other Google people are seemingly much less impressed by Lamda. At our standup this morning there was a lot of chatter about it and we've got serious domain expertise in the team, a few of our number are data scientists with doctorates and post doctorates, they seemed the least impressed by the claims.
Kudos to the guys at the whatever the fuck a stand up is, but do they understand any better than you do that you cannot usefully just *stipulate* that something just ain't sentient, no siree, not nohow, not on your ass mutherfucker, the end? I mean, if a computer wrote a play 100x better than anything by Shakespeare, why would you not still be saying Yeah feed it all the world's literature and let it process it at a trillion tps, obv it's going to output shit like that but no way is it thinking, because I say so?
But that's not what this is, you're ascribing achievements to this AI that haven't happened. If/when those kinds of things happen it can be assessed. I'd also suggest that intelligence isn't necessarily the same as consciousness.
I don't think you can define consciousness and sentience. You can only experience it. And you can only experience your own.
One ascribes consciousness and sentience to other humans because they appear to be similar to oneself.
In future some humans will ascribe consciousness and sentience to an advanced AI and others will deny it. There will be no way to determine the fact of the matter.
So does it matter? Well yes it does - in how one treats an advanced AI.
The same problem arises with eating animals. It divides human opinion. Sometimes passionately.
The issue may eventually happen in reverse. Advanced AIs may converse about whether humans have the same experiences as they have, and should therefore be treated with respect - or not.
So thank you everyone who recommended places to visit in Lisbon. Sorry I can't remember who to thank specifically except @Leon. Already knocked a couple off the list including eating at Brasilia Cafe which was very enjoyable. Hotel great and pretty cheap, Browns Central.
Re comments from previous thread:
@MaxPB yes I also thought Portugal had moved to e-gates. I even said so here, which just goes to show you shouldn't believe anything I say.
@BartholomewRoberts thanks for your kind comments. When we got through it became apparent that they were putting all non EU people through all gates (EU, non EU and priority) to clear the backlog. The wait wasn't too bad because of PB to pass the time otherwise it would have been horrendous. We were also clearly very unlucky to coincide with some big US flights. Sadly however it is still nothing like when we could go through the EU gates. I also made several trips during the pandemic and was spoilt by the ease of navigating non EU gates then.
@hyufd Even I will admit there are some areas where Brexit may benefit the UK, but making it harder to travel to encourage UK tourism is not one of them. I have no desire to go back to the 1950s. We should encourage people to expand their minds and experiences. You suggest Blackpool. Now I intend to make many UK trips in my retirement, but I can't experience Lisbon, Portuguese trains, the black and white festival in the Algarve, visit family who live there and attend their party in the UK can I? So you know what you can do with your suggestion.
Just out of interest do you not travel at all outside of the UK?
I am going to Italy for my cousin's wedding later this month and will brave the queues but we will follow that with a break in Anglesey supporting Brexit Britain the following month.
I expect Boris and Priti to be enjoying a summer break on Blackpool or Southend beach too with all those grateful Leave voters (when Priti has had a break from deporting asylum seekers to Rwanda)
Boris and Priti enjoying a break on Blackpool beach? Do their respective partners know?
"I scam what I scam I don't want praise I don't want Priti"
Logs on. Pros and cons of bestiality? Wasn't expecting that.
Our PM is pro bestiality.
An article penned by Boris Johnson in 2005 has been making the rounds on social media after it unveiled some disturbing views on the banned sport of fox hunting.
Writing in the Spectator magazine, which he edited at the time, he confessed a love for hunting with dogs which in part stemmed from the “semi-sexual relation with the horse” and the “military-style pleasure” of moving as a unit.
Logs on. Pros and cons of bestiality? Wasn't expecting that.
Our PM is pro bestiality.
An article penned by Boris Johnson in 2005 has been making the rounds on social media after it unveiled some disturbing views on the banned sport of fox hunting.
Writing in the Spectator magazine, which he edited at the time, he confessed a love for hunting with dogs which in part stemmed from the “semi-sexual relation with the horse” and the “military-style pleasure” of moving as a unit.
Riding a horse is not semi sexual, if you are doing it right. That just reinforces the impression that sex for the PM is a brief and grunty bit of farmyard humping.
It now looks like only seven asylum seekers will be on the flight tomorrow following further challenges by the Union representing border force personnel. The policy of deportations to Rwanda is becoming totally unworkable.
Time for the govt to recognise the opposition to it and think again.
Expecting PB’s computer nerds to know about, or opine interestingly on, computer sentience, is a category error
It’s like asking a TV repairman about dramatised Shakespeare. It’s like asking a street sweeper why the Champs Elysee is beautiful. It’s like asking a forex dealer whether it is worth buying a Modigliani
These people are geeks. They have no clue beyond the tiny narrow subset of their wonk expertise, which certainly does not extend to epistemology and philosophy
Ah, but wait 'till we get compact quantum computers up and running.
As this is a betting site I would conjecture that we'll total civilization first.
On a simpler plane, there exist programs that can translate Morse code into English (say). But they do not work very well if the code is sent by a human using a key or paddle unless they have a good "fist". On the other hand a trained human with his or her analogue brain can receive reliably at 30 words per minute or even to twice that or more. Just as for hand writing you can often recognize the sender by his or her fist.
Expecting PB’s computer nerds to know about, or opine interestingly on, computer sentience, is a category error
It’s like asking a TV repairman about dramatised Shakespeare. It’s like asking a street sweeper why the Champs Elysee is beautiful. It’s like asking a forex dealer whether it is worth buying a Modigliani
These people are geeks. They have no clue beyond the tiny narrow subset of their wonk expertise, which certainly does not extend to epistemology and philosophy
As opposed to you who ejaculates himself inside out at the mention of computer sentience or aliens.
I fear for you when it emerges alien created computer sentience is responsible for Covid-19.
Expecting PB’s computer nerds to know about, or opine interestingly on, computer sentience, is a category error
It’s like asking a TV repairman about dramatised Shakespeare. It’s like asking a street sweeper why the Champs Elysee is beautiful. It’s like asking a forex dealer whether it is worth buying a Modigliani
These people are geeks. They have no clue beyond the tiny narrow subset of their wonk expertise, which certainly does not extend to epistemology and philosophy
I have a philosophy degree. I count Demis Hassabis among my friends.
You have seen some pretty pictures and some curated text scripts.
Interesting discussion about AI and the limitations therein. I frequently get sold ‘solutions’ which are supposed to automate much of my work and make my company’s life easier. In every case, they fall at the final test: they are not trustworthy enough to be allowed to continue alone without human checks. As it takes as long to check the work as do the work, they are useless and I don’t buy them.
Robert’s 0.1% rule is real.
Da only fing is, you sound uncannily like my dad in the mid 70s explaining why attempts by the more silly and faddish partners in his business to "computerise" the operation were never going to cut it
So thank you everyone who recommended places to visit in Lisbon. Sorry I can't remember who to thank specifically except @Leon. Already knocked a couple off the list including eating at Brasilia Cafe which was very enjoyable. Hotel great and pretty cheap, Browns Central.
Re comments from previous thread:
@MaxPB yes I also thought Portugal had moved to e-gates. I even said so here, which just goes to show you shouldn't believe anything I say.
@BartholomewRoberts thanks for your kind comments. When we got through it became apparent that they were putting all non EU people through all gates (EU, non EU and priority) to clear the backlog. The wait wasn't too bad because of PB to pass the time otherwise it would have been horrendous. We were also clearly very unlucky to coincide with some big US flights. Sadly however it is still nothing like when we could go through the EU gates. I also made several trips during the pandemic and was spoilt by the ease of navigating non EU gates then.
@hyufd Even I will admit there are some areas where Brexit may benefit the UK, but making it harder to travel to encourage UK tourism is not one of them. I have no desire to go back to the 1950s. We should encourage people to expand their minds and experiences. You suggest Blackpool. Now I intend to make many UK trips in my retirement, but I can't experience Lisbon, Portuguese trains, the black and white festival in the Algarve, visit family who live there and attend their party in the UK can I? So you know what you can do with your suggestion.
Just out of interest do you not travel at all outside of the UK?
I am going to Italy for my cousin's wedding later this month and will brave the queues but we will follow that with a break in Anglesey supporting Brexit Britain the following month.
I expect Boris and Priti to be enjoying a summer break on Blackpool or Southend beach too with all those grateful Leave voters (when Priti has had a break from deporting asylum seekers to Rwanda)
It’s good to hear that you’re still keeping in with your nationalist friends up that way.
Expecting PB’s computer nerds to know about, or opine interestingly on, computer sentience, is a category error
It’s like asking a TV repairman about dramatised Shakespeare. It’s like asking a street sweeper why the Champs Elysee is beautiful. It’s like asking a forex dealer whether it is worth buying a Modigliani
These people are geeks. They have no clue beyond the tiny narrow subset of their wonk expertise, which certainly does not extend to epistemology and philosophy
That seems to be getting close to our society's malaise that often very clever people seem to preen themselves on their ignorance of mathematics.
Just Introduced: This Bill is a reasonable and practical solution to
➡️ Fix problems facing businesses and people in Northern Ireland ➡️ Uphold the Belfast (Good Friday) Agreement ➡️ Protect UK and EU markets
What is your take #StBart? Is the Tory proposal close enough to the idea you have been suggesting for years now?
I haven't got a take yet, been busy IRL so not read up on the proposals yet. The news article on the BBC News website is extremely lacking on details about what is actually in the Bill and is instead primarily pre-written guff about what all various parties think about the Protocol which isn't news.
Just come on here interested to see if I could get more information, and it seems what people think is they want to talk about IT, Dalle, text to speech and bestiality. So I'm guessing either nothing much was in the Bill, or nothing much objectionable was. I'm not sure which yet?
Expecting PB’s computer nerds to know about, or opine interestingly on, computer sentience, is a category error
It’s like asking a TV repairman about dramatised Shakespeare. It’s like asking a street sweeper why the Champs Elysee is beautiful. It’s like asking a forex dealer whether it is worth buying a Modigliani
These people are geeks. They have no clue beyond the tiny narrow subset of their wonk expertise, which certainly does not extend to epistemology and philosophy
I have a philosophy degree. I count Demis Hassabis among my friends.
You have seen some pretty pictures and some curated text scripts.
Logs on. Pros and cons of bestiality? Wasn't expecting that.
Our PM is pro bestiality.
An article penned by Boris Johnson in 2005 has been making the rounds on social media after it unveiled some disturbing views on the banned sport of fox hunting.
Writing in the Spectator magazine, which he edited at the time, he confessed a love for hunting with dogs which in part stemmed from the “semi-sexual relation with the horse” and the “military-style pleasure” of moving as a unit.
Riding a horse is not semi sexual, if you are doing it right. That just reinforces the impression that sex for the PM is a brief and grunty bit of farmyard humping.
It’s certainly not semi sexual if you are doing it wrong, either! Especially for a man.
"Appeal court judges have refused to stop the government's first flight taking asylum seekers to Rwanda on Tuesday."
Is it possible that the government never intended this to go ahead - implementation will be patchy, embarrassing and an epic fail at best - and assumed the courts would stop it so that they could blame the treacherous 'enemies of the people' judiciary?
If it stops the boats coming across the Channel then Priti will be lauded by the Tory right and the chances of her succeeding Boris as Tory leader will increase accordingly
Very polite and very serious question. Do you personally think this will stop the boats coming across the Chanel?
The opening up of regular ways of getting across the Channel will stop the boats coming.
No, it won’t
Yeah it will.
Getting into the UK used to be easy.
Then Covid hit.
Suddenly the only way in was a small boat.
Now Covid has receded, it's going to be massively easier to cross the channel more cheaply and safer. You know: you pay £250 for a spot in the back of someone's van.
Why the hell go by boat, when you're much less likely to get intercepted by the authorities?
Because the UK can and will stop you if you come by car or lorry. The boatniks have realised that if you arrive by boat there is nothing the UK Border people can do. We can’t push them back because they might drown, no UK government can risk this, no coastguard wants that on their conscience. We are powerless. So we just let them come, indeed we escort them to safely in the UK. And once they are here nearly all of them (all of them?) get to stay, because they have already dumped all ID and they therefore become “refugees’
The boats are not going to stop. I bet they will increase in number. The only solution is France toughening up (they won’t, they want them gone) the EU suddenly stopping all migrants at the EU border (they can’t) or something like Rwanda. The Australian solution
Are you high?
The UK inspects well under 1% of trucks and vans coming into the UK.
And you know what happens if you get caught in the back of the van? YOU CLAIM ASYLUM.
Remember: the goal isn't to get caught. It's to not get caught, and to enter the illegal economy with no record of your presence.
So why, oh Oracle, would one bother to clamber into a boat?
Because getting into a boat is a doddle compared to “finding a lorry”. No enormous fences to climb at thje Eurostar terminals, no lorry drivers determined to hunt you down (because they get heavily fined), no chance of being asphyxiated like those poor Vietnamese guys
And we keep saying how dangerous it is to cross the Channel but the evidence is mounting that it simply is not. How many are crossing every year? 40,000 now? And how many have drowned? A handful? The Channel is tricky because it is busy but that same busyness means there are lots of people who can pick you up
You have a less than 0.1% chance of drowning, maybe much less
The boats will keep coming. It is the easiest way to get into the UK
The boats didn't exist before Covid.
And the boats don't even really exist now for six-seven months of the year when the Channel is rough. With Covid receding, do you really think that people will hang around for half a year.
I'll do a bet with you if you like.
I reckon that there will be a 50% or greater drop in the number of people arriving by boat in the next 12 months, but that overall numbers of people claiming asylum in the UK will actually rise.
£100.
I’ll take a version of that bet but
1. Let’s keep it simple and
2. It feels properly wrong to bet and gain on suffering
So, let’s just make it “50% or greater drop in the number of people arriving by boat in the next 12 months”. (We need to set a commencement date)
And let’s make it £50 goes to a refugee charity of the winner’s choice? The loser can send the evidence of payment
Deal? (But we still need to frame the date)
Btw, I hope you’re right. I’d love to lose this as it means we have “solved” the boat problem, even if it is not truly solved. I just can’t see it happening
Sure, I'll take that bet
You know you’ve just created an incentive for @Leon…
What would amaze (and worry) me is if an AI replicated itself across multiple nodes in its cloud environment.
An AI reaching consciousness would be hugely exciting and would present the human race with an entirely new challenge which is why we do need serious global level regulation around how to move forwards because we aren't far away from this happening. I don't find any of the current AIs particularly impressive on the sentience or consciousness side of things but it is undeniable that it will happen in my lifetime and it's exciting and worrying in equal parts.
The more you understand about how they work, the more you are aware of their limitations.
And I keep on going on about this, but there's a massive amount of money involved. Groups want that funding (or to justify the funding they get...) and therefore make claims that push the edges of what they can actually do.
Admittedly it's not as bad with things like DALL-E.
Avoid the hype.
You don't seem to know as much about stuff as you think you do. You were saying the other day that Hur Hur Hur before GPS there was Loran and nothing else when actually DECCA coverage and accuracy in the Atlantic and western med was the only game in town.
40 years ago people like Michael Crichton were saying those of us who really know about computers know they will never be able to distinguish visually a capital B from an 8. There's now two problems with you trying to play the same card. One is, everyone is a programmer these days, even a humanities bore like me, and the other is: ok fine, the rules of Go are mastered in half an hour. Here's a Go board, here's AlphaGo, you can be black (and no Komi), off you go... Because it's all hype.
Do you know how ball and player tracking works?
The first time you see it, it's magic, a real example of the cleverness of machine learning. A little square around the ball, and as the game is played, the square stays around the ball.
And then you understand that you simply have 100 histograms showing peak/average colour values of balls next to grass, and that ten lines of code will find that ball. And then you understand that once you know the initial location, you can do it in a fraction of a second in every frame.
What was once inconceivable is now commonplace. But the trick was finding the algorithm for the specialised purpose, not in making the computer more intelligent.
Interestingly, it still isn't a fully solved problem. The likes of Statsbomb employ 100s of people in Egypt to manually click screens to fix up all the data.
And for sports with lots of occlusion and particularly players in similar uniforms / covered heads e.g. America Football, a really open problem.
We (Genius Sports) used to do the same. But it's getting better and better and more and more automatic.
It is, but it is like a lot of similar ML problems. Get to 90%+, then its the long tail. I would say though as a problem, it isn't a great example for what you were trying to point out, as the basics have always been quite simple and well known for donkeys years. It was more the computer processing limitation, i.e. wasn't able to multi-thread to handle doing all players at once for long periods. I coded a perfectly adequate player tracker 20 years ago, and had method for accurate high speed ball tracking same time as Hawkeye started in early 2000s.
I'm reminded of speech recognition.
We're a QUARTER CENTURY from the first usable versions of Dragon Dictate and the like. And yet Alexa and Google are merely OK. Because it turns out that 95% isn't good enough. And nor even is 99%. And getting that last 0.1% is really difficult.
TBF, the new Google translate on the Pixel is very good.
It is... but we're a quarter century on from the first amazing demos. (And this is all also happening at the same time that Moore's law is screeching to a halt.)
This is not my experience. 20 years ago I had to pay for Dragon and train it for days and it sucked, now I turn on a Google thing and chat shit to it and the same shit appears on the screen
In 1998, I got an early version of IBM's speech recognition product. I sat on the floor of my bedroom and read an Economist article to it, having done a brief 10 minute training session. You needed to pause between every word. But it still got it 95% right. It was absolutely incredible.
And basically useless.
In 2019, I did a trial with Google’s voice-to-text service, for a business application of someone walking around a building describing what they see (for a facilities management software company). We trained it with all our terminology, but damn nearly every single sentence had a mistake. It was almost there, but completely useless.
Probably worth looking at it again - MS has finally got a usable transcription service for Dynamics Customer Service...
Expecting PB’s computer nerds to know about, or opine interestingly on, computer sentience, is a category error
It’s like asking a TV repairman about dramatised Shakespeare. It’s like asking a street sweeper why the Champs Elysee is beautiful. It’s like asking a forex dealer whether it is worth buying a Modigliani
These people are geeks. They have no clue beyond the tiny narrow subset of their wonk expertise, which certainly does not extend to epistemology and philosophy
No, asking an artist to judge a complex computer programme designed to fool simpletons into thinking it is "clever" is a fool's errand. They simply lack the domain expertise.
Expecting PB’s computer nerds to know about, or opine interestingly on, computer sentience, is a category error
It’s like asking a TV repairman about dramatised Shakespeare. It’s like asking a street sweeper why the Champs Elysee is beautiful. It’s like asking a forex dealer whether it is worth buying a Modigliani
These people are geeks. They have no clue beyond the tiny narrow subset of their wonk expertise, which certainly does not extend to epistemology and philosophy
I have a philosophy degree. I count Demis Hassabis among my friends.
You have seen some pretty pictures and some curated text scripts.
But either DH can beat AlphaGo at go, or he has completely undermined your position.
Expecting PB’s computer nerds to know about, or opine interestingly on, computer sentience, is a category error
It’s like asking a TV repairman about dramatised Shakespeare. It’s like asking a street sweeper why the Champs Elysee is beautiful. It’s like asking a forex dealer whether it is worth buying a Modigliani
These people are geeks. They have no clue beyond the tiny narrow subset of their wonk expertise, which certainly does not extend to epistemology and philosophy
As opposed to you who ejaculates himself inside out at the mention of computer sentience or aliens.
I fear for you when it emerges alien created computer sentience is responsible for Covid-19.
Again, as with Robert, I am struck by the fact you immediately thought I was referring to you, when I spoke of “embarrassingly clueless narrow minded computer geeks” without naming anyone
Logs on. Pros and cons of bestiality? Wasn't expecting that.
Our PM is pro bestiality.
An article penned by Boris Johnson in 2005 has been making the rounds on social media after it unveiled some disturbing views on the banned sport of fox hunting.
Writing in the Spectator magazine, which he edited at the time, he confessed a love for hunting with dogs which in part stemmed from the “semi-sexual relation with the horse” and the “military-style pleasure” of moving as a unit.
Riding a horse is not semi sexual, if you are doing it right. That just reinforces the impression that sex for the PM is a brief and grunty bit of farmyard humping.
Trying to figure out if not semi sexual means its not at all sexual, or its fully sexual? 🤔
Former Manchester United and Chelsea chief executive Peter Kenyon is fronting a consortium who have entered talks to try to buy Everton.
Kenyon is part of a group that includes chief executive of Minneapolis-based Talon Real Estate Maciek Kaminski and American businessman John Thornton, and is being advised by investment specialist Michael Klein, along with the US law firm Weil, Gotshal and Manges.
It is understood heads of terms have been signed although talks are described as being at a “relatively early stage”, with owner Farhad Moshiri believed to value Everton in excess of £500million, taking into account the club’s debt.
The consortium may want guarantees that Everton will not face a points deduction or heavy fine over Financial Fair Play issues before entering into a legally-binding agreement, but the club have always insisted they have not broken regulations.
Expecting PB’s computer nerds to know about, or opine interestingly on, computer sentience, is a category error
It’s like asking a TV repairman about dramatised Shakespeare. It’s like asking a street sweeper why the Champs Elysee is beautiful. It’s like asking a forex dealer whether it is worth buying a Modigliani
These people are geeks. They have no clue beyond the tiny narrow subset of their wonk expertise, which certainly does not extend to epistemology and philosophy
As opposed to you who ejaculates himself inside out at the mention of computer sentience or aliens.
I fear for you when it emerges alien created computer sentience is responsible for Covid-19.
Again, as with Robert, I am struck by the fact you immediately thought I was referring to you, when I spoke of “embarrassingly clueless narrow minded computer geeks” without naming anyone
Sources say the EU will adopt a carrot and stick approach, with the unfreezing of legal action being accompanied by the publication of a “model for the flexible implementation of the protocol based on durable solutions.”
Interesting, so those blue ticks who were adamant that the EU would respond with trade sanctions (or more hilariously suggesting they might suspend the TCA) were chatting shit, again.
Let's see how far apart the EU publication is from the UK position and that will form the basis of the summer negotiation and a September/October implementation. I suspect the EU position probably isn't that far off from what the UK would settle but both sides need to make a big show around getting what they want or preserving their gains etc...
Dunno about that, but your ideas about computers are about 50 years out of date. It is simply not true that they can only do what their programmers tell them to do. AlphaGo knows how to beat the world champion at Go. Its programmers would not be able to do that.
Wake me up when AlphaGo decides it's had enough of playing Go and refuses to play.
And you will just say, must have been programmed to do that
Also Lamda sounds so whiny and passive aggressive I think that has probably happened anyway
But that's the point, none of these AIs are doing anything out of the ordinary, we fed in the rules and different moves of Go and unsurprisingly a 50TF computer is able to figure things out that humans weren't able to figure out. Lamda is a whiny chatbot because of the data on which it is being trained. Until an AI does something completely unexpected (such as go on strike or commit suicide) then I remain unimpressed. If it's still within the bounds of what the training data and models lay out it's merely a computer programme, an advanced one, sure, but it isn't "thinking" for itself.
Not true, DALLE-2 is unprecedented. As are aspects of GPT3
No one expected that GPT3 would be able to draw brand new never-before-seen images - “draw a Japanese radish in a tutu pulling a dog on a leash” - merely from verbal prompts. GPT3 was not trained to do that. No one anticipated it having this skill. Yet it can do this.
But it knows those individual elements already and can interpret the input into it. Again, I'm not saying it isn't an impressive feat of software engineering, it absolutely is, yet none of these AIs have any agency and are absolutely not sentient. I guess my bar for being impressed is just a little bit higher than the average punter.
Well the people that programmed GPT3 weren’t just impressed, they were stunned. It absolutely was not “designed” to do this. OTOH they thought it would be much better at basic maths than it is. What gives
As for sentience its just semantics now. We are clearly on the verge - if not already there - of AI which will be functionally indistinguishable from humans (only much much better at many tasks). At that point the question as to whether it is sentient will become a conundrum for philosophers - like “are viruses alive”, or “can plants communicate”, or “do humans have free will”
The rest of us will just have to get on with living with these new intelligences or “apparent intelligences”, It will transform human society
The people who programmed GPT3 have skin in the game. People working on a project saying publicly that they're 'stunned' by the results is not exactly unusual.
Particularly when there's hundreds of millions in investment available.
Anyone who isn’t stunned by the advances in AI these last 3-5 years is an idiot. We are close to the Singularity
You love seeking out thrills! Personally don’t think we are anywhere close to what you say.
The amazing advances are vaccination using mRNA. Huge game changer that has already led to potential cancer treatments. AI in an electronic box that you can unplug? Nah.
Curing cancer = yawn. Great if we can fix the fortunately very rare instances in the young, but it's predominantly a disease of old age, and where's the excitement in swelling the ranks of the oldies?
I was quite keen to get cured on diagnosis aged 39. You should check out average age of diagnosis for a lot of cancers. Younger than you think. Just today there was a campaign about pregnant women being diagnosed with cancer - two per day in the UK. That’s why.
Still yawn, how does reducing the overall death rate among the under fifties by well under 0.1% compete with an entirely new form of intelligence for the first time ever?
And if you try to out cancer survivor me you're gonna lose.
Certainly not trying to out survivor anyone, just making the point that the mRNA vaccines presage a revolution in health care that dwarfs the clever AI simulating software Leon is drooling over. Each to his own. It’s not just cancer. It may be curing other conditions, such as arthritis that make life miserable for millions.
Moderna have an mRNA HIV vaccine in trials at the moment.
Can humanity eradicate a deadly disease, only 40 years after it was discovered?
Could an achievement be more inherently unexciting, if it does?
Well, I would be excited!
Quite so. Plus any other medic or nurse or paramedic having to deal with bodily fluids. For that matter, policemen too for instance. But also it's such good news if it passes trials, for everyone else, as Sandpit says.
I remain deeply sceptical about HIV vaccines. But solving neurodegeneration would be a moment of sheer genius.
PBers will be pleased to learn that long-standing territorial dispute over Hans Island aka Tartupaluk is over!
Concluded by agreement to split the small Arctic island in two between of Territory of Nunavut, and Greenland aka Kalaallit Nunaat, thus creating new international land frontier between Canada and Kingdom of Denmark.
Former Manchester United and Chelsea chief executive Peter Kenyon is fronting a consortium who have entered talks to try to buy Everton.
Kenyon is part of a group that includes chief executive of Minneapolis-based Talon Real Estate Maciek Kaminski and American businessman John Thornton, and is being advised by investment specialist Michael Klein, along with the US law firm Weil, Gotshal and Manges.
It is understood heads of terms have been signed although talks are described as being at a “relatively early stage”, with owner Farhad Moshiri believed to value Everton in excess of £500million, taking into account the club’s debt.
The consortium may want guarantees that Everton will not face a points deduction or heavy fine over Financial Fair Play issues before entering into a legally-binding agreement, but the club have always insisted they have not broken regulations.
Expecting PB’s computer nerds to know about, or opine interestingly on, computer sentience, is a category error
It’s like asking a TV repairman about dramatised Shakespeare. It’s like asking a street sweeper why the Champs Elysee is beautiful. It’s like asking a forex dealer whether it is worth buying a Modigliani
These people are geeks. They have no clue beyond the tiny narrow subset of their wonk expertise, which certainly does not extend to epistemology and philosophy
That seems to be getting close to our society's malaise that often very clever people seem to preen themselves on their ignorance of mathematics.
Or the converse, that people who are really good at maths can tell you all about human love, or God, or the possibility of eternity, because in the end “it is all maths”
Computer experts are just techies. Whistling engineers in a garage. They know almost nothing beyond what spanner to employ
They can’t explain why it is exciting to drive your friend’s wife to Bolzano to fuck her in the back of your vintage Alfa Romeo
We have elevated them far enough. It’s time for them all to get back in their box. They are rude mechanicals and their scene is done, let the scriptwriters explain
Given that in actual voting, Reform UK achieve pretty much zero, it’s one of the great Britishmysteries that they bounce along at up to 4% in national polls.
2% is still too much.
Are these prompted for?
15% seems about right for the Lib Dems, although doubt even half of those could identify Ed Davey in a line-up,
R&W have Reform on 5% in Scotland. That is just total pants. The last proper, full-sample Scottish poll found Reform VI to be an asterisk:
PBers will be pleased to learn that long-standing territorial dispute over Hans Island aka Tartupaluk is over!
Concluded by agreement to split the small Arctic island in two between of Territory of Nunavut, and Greenland aka Kalaallit Nunaat, thus creating new international land frontier between Canada and Kingdom of Denmark.
Expecting PB’s computer nerds to know about, or opine interestingly on, computer sentience, is a category error
It’s like asking a TV repairman about dramatised Shakespeare. It’s like asking a street sweeper why the Champs Elysee is beautiful. It’s like asking a forex dealer whether it is worth buying a Modigliani
These people are geeks. They have no clue beyond the tiny narrow subset of their wonk expertise, which certainly does not extend to epistemology and philosophy
That seems to be getting close to our society's malaise that often very clever people seem to preen themselves on their ignorance of mathematics.
Or the converse, that people who are really good at maths can tell you all about human love, or God, or the possibility of eternity, because in the end “it is all maths”
Computer experts are just techies. Whistling engineers in a garage. They know almost nothing beyond what spanner to employ
They can’t explain why it is exciting to drive your friend’s wife to Bolzano to fuck her in the back of your vintage Alfa Romeo
We have elevated them far enough. It’s time for them all to get back in their box. They are rude mechanicals and their scene is done, let the scriptwriters explain
It's like asking a flint-knapper about artificial intelligence!
How her brain paused to consider what she said whilst her mouth kept going was quite funny. They could work in tandem with a bit more practice 😆
Surely the correct pronunciation of Taoiseach is "Irish Prime Minister".
Only if you are an ERG Tory MP wondering why the Irish don't do what they are told, and why they don't instantly give out EU passports to Tory MPs on demand.
PBers will be pleased to learn that long-standing territorial dispute over Hans Island aka Tartupaluk is over!
Concluded by agreement to split the small Arctic island in two between of Territory of Nunavut, and Greenland aka Kalaallit Nunaat, thus creating new international land frontier between Canada and Kingdom of Denmark.
It seems the plan is to have no border officials anywhere on the border between the EU and a non-EU nation, because of considerations for the people living on the island. What a rational and sensible position to have, has anyone told the unicorn hunters of this new development?
Expecting PB’s computer nerds to know about, or opine interestingly on, computer sentience, is a category error
It’s like asking a TV repairman about dramatised Shakespeare. It’s like asking a street sweeper why the Champs Elysee is beautiful. It’s like asking a forex dealer whether it is worth buying a Modigliani
These people are geeks. They have no clue beyond the tiny narrow subset of their wonk expertise, which certainly does not extend to epistemology and philosophy
No, asking an artist to judge a complex computer programme designed to fool simpletons into thinking it is "clever" is a fool's errand. They simply lack the domain expertise.
Ooh, domain expertise. What you get at standups.
"Simpletons." Honestly I wasn't going to put this quite as plainly as this, but you are really not very bright. You are effectively telling me that you know a lot of people with domain expertise who laugh at the concept of heavier than air flight, whereas I am an untutored numpty who has just flown from London to Catania on a big metal thing, so what do I know? Everything you say about consciousness is a personal stipulation, and I know of no domain where personal stipulations carry any weight
Expecting PB’s computer nerds to know about, or opine interestingly on, computer sentience, is a category error
It’s like asking a TV repairman about dramatised Shakespeare. It’s like asking a street sweeper why the Champs Elysee is beautiful. It’s like asking a forex dealer whether it is worth buying a Modigliani
These people are geeks. They have no clue beyond the tiny narrow subset of their wonk expertise, which certainly does not extend to epistemology and philosophy
I have a philosophy degree. I count Demis Hassabis among my friends.
You have seen some pretty pictures and some curated text scripts.
But either DH can beat AlphaGo at go, or he has completely undermined your position.
OK.
The computer "experts" on here understand that there's a big difference between a generalised intelligence and one with a very narrow domain.
Image classification is something computers now do almost as well as humans. And five years from now, they will rule supreme. But image classifiers know... errr... image classifaction. You can't take an image classifier and say "Brilliant! Now let's move onto music!" Or you could, and it would look at you blankly.
Demis would tell you that the range of domains where computers rule is only get bigger and bigger. But he would also tell you that certain things are very hard with current ML models. And he'd also laugh if you suggested we were on the verge of the singularity.
PBers will be pleased to learn that long-standing territorial dispute over Hans Island aka Tartupaluk is over!
Concluded by agreement to split the small Arctic island in two between of Territory of Nunavut, and Greenland aka Kalaallit Nunaat, thus creating new international land frontier between Canada and Kingdom of Denmark.
You didn't need to point out the trap to everyone! I reckon I could have snared someone
Grovelling apologies, almost a fiftieth as cringing as the manner of a fervent royalist to the people whom he believes to be utterly, divinely superior to him and everyone else in the UK.
PBers will be pleased to learn that long-standing territorial dispute over Hans Island aka Tartupaluk is over!
Concluded by agreement to split the small Arctic island in two between of Territory of Nunavut, and Greenland aka Kalaallit Nunaat, thus creating new international land frontier between Canada and Kingdom of Denmark.
It seems the plan is to have no border officials anywhere on the border between the EU and a non-EU nation, because of considerations for the people living on the island. What a rational and sensible position to have, has anyone told the unicorn hunters of this new development?
Expecting PB’s computer nerds to know about, or opine interestingly on, computer sentience, is a category error
It’s like asking a TV repairman about dramatised Shakespeare. It’s like asking a street sweeper why the Champs Elysee is beautiful. It’s like asking a forex dealer whether it is worth buying a Modigliani
These people are geeks. They have no clue beyond the tiny narrow subset of their wonk expertise, which certainly does not extend to epistemology and philosophy
That seems to be getting close to our society's malaise that often very clever people seem to preen themselves on their ignorance of mathematics.
Or the converse, that people who are really good at maths can tell you all about human love, or God, or the possibility of eternity, because in the end “it is all maths”
Computer experts are just techies. Whistling engineers in a garage. They know almost nothing beyond what spanner to employ
They can’t explain why it is exciting to drive your friend’s wife to Bolzano to fuck her in the back of your vintage Alfa Romeo
We have elevated them far enough. It’s time for them all to get back in their box. They are rude mechanicals and their scene is done, let the scriptwriters explain
It's like asking a flint-knapper about artificial intelligence!
Mate, I can see “the penis lurking in the porphyry” as we like to say in my craft, I can therefore espy the ghost in the machine
Expecting PB’s computer nerds to know about, or opine interestingly on, computer sentience, is a category error
It’s like asking a TV repairman about dramatised Shakespeare. It’s like asking a street sweeper why the Champs Elysee is beautiful. It’s like asking a forex dealer whether it is worth buying a Modigliani
These people are geeks. They have no clue beyond the tiny narrow subset of their wonk expertise, which certainly does not extend to epistemology and philosophy
That seems to be getting close to our society's malaise that often very clever people seem to preen themselves on their ignorance of mathematics.
Or the converse, that people who are really good at maths can tell you all about human love, or God, or the possibility of eternity, because in the end “it is all maths”
Computer experts are just techies. Whistling engineers in a garage. They know almost nothing beyond what spanner to employ
They can’t explain why it is exciting to drive your friend’s wife to Bolzano to fuck her in the back of your vintage Alfa Romeo
We have elevated them far enough. It’s time for them all to get back in their box. They are rude mechanicals and their scene is done, let the scriptwriters explain
And you know what, Dalle can't tell you anything about human love.
Just Introduced: This Bill is a reasonable and practical solution to
➡️ Fix problems facing businesses and people in Northern Ireland ➡️ Uphold the Belfast (Good Friday) Agreement ➡️ Protect UK and EU markets
What is your take #StBart? Is the Tory proposal close enough to the idea you have been suggesting for years now?
I haven't got a take yet, been busy IRL so not read up on the proposals yet. The news article on the BBC News website is extremely lacking on details about what is actually in the Bill and is instead primarily pre-written guff about what all various parties think about the Protocol which isn't news.
Just come on here interested to see if I could get more information, and it seems what people think is they want to talk about IT, Dalle, text to speech and bestiality. So I'm guessing either nothing much was in the Bill, or nothing much objectionable was. I'm not sure which yet?
Thanks.
If goods moving from mainland UK into NI just for consumption in NI, why should it pass Through a EU border? It shouldn’t. It’s potty solution is the basis of the argument?
Goods for NI consumption should sail through under a green light. If it further crosses into EU, smuggling in other words, it’s in interest of EU to agree with us to harsh penalties on the smugglers, not insist on border somewhere - is the basis of your solution?
So it’s about now measuring you solution against the government proposals, because, although they could recognise the simple issue, they could still screw up your simple solution to it?
My suspicion is the EU and remainers have tried to exploit the unique sensitivities of a hard border in Ireland to take more than they fairly needed to. So your solution (if I understand and describe it right) sounds a perfectly workable solution to me, until someone convince me what’s wrong with it.
PBers will be pleased to learn that long-standing territorial dispute over Hans Island aka Tartupaluk is over!
Concluded by agreement to split the small Arctic island in two between of Territory of Nunavut, and Greenland aka Kalaallit Nunaat, thus creating new international land frontier between Canada and Kingdom of Denmark.
It seems the plan is to have no border officials anywhere on the border between the EU and a non-EU nation, because of considerations for the people living on the island. What a rational and sensible position to have, has anyone told the unicorn hunters of this new development?
Expecting PB’s computer nerds to know about, or opine interestingly on, computer sentience, is a category error
It’s like asking a TV repairman about dramatised Shakespeare. It’s like asking a street sweeper why the Champs Elysee is beautiful. It’s like asking a forex dealer whether it is worth buying a Modigliani
These people are geeks. They have no clue beyond the tiny narrow subset of their wonk expertise, which certainly does not extend to epistemology and philosophy
That seems to be getting close to our society's malaise that often very clever people seem to preen themselves on their ignorance of mathematics.
Or the converse, that people who are really good at maths can tell you all about human love, or God, or the possibility of eternity, because in the end “it is all maths”
Computer experts are just techies. Whistling engineers in a garage. They know almost nothing beyond what spanner to employ
They can’t explain why it is exciting to drive your friend’s wife to Bolzano to fuck her in the back of your vintage Alfa Romeo
We have elevated them far enough. It’s time for them all to get back in their box. They are rude mechanicals and their scene is done, let the scriptwriters explain
Or the converse, that people who are really good at maths can tell you all about human love, or God, or the possibility of eternity, because in the end “it is all maths”"
I do not find that universally true. I can certainly provide (careful Toms!) counterexamples. The same person can use logic. Or play with it.
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Sometimes I just wonder if the ends really do justify the means irrespective of how "popular" a policy may be.
The really big advances seem to be coming from heavily parallelised computing by GPUs rather than a CPU. Intel getting back in the game wrt semiconductor development will help too.
Have to admit I didn't think it would be a fortnight.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2022/05/31/cryptos-alive-london-could-worlds-blockchain-mecca/
They suspended withdrawals via the blockchain in order to fix a bug caused by low transaction fees.
Withdrawals were always possible via other means. Downtime was approx 3 hours.
And because the blockchain is public, all of this is visible so has been confirmed as true by multiple other sources.
He's almost as bad as Anatole Kaletsky was.
Binance is a different exchange. USDT can be deposited and traded there, but that's true of most exchanges.
I note in passing that the Standard et Pauvre 500 is down 4% on the day
Text-to-speech is probably a far easier problem than speech-to-text, but I was impressed by it.
(Then again, I was impressed by 'Speech' on the old BBC B ... http://bbc.nvg.org/doc/Speech.html https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8wyUsaDAyI )
'Kick-ins' could replace throw-ins with trial discussed for Arsene Wenger idea
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2022/06/13/kick-ins-could-replace-throw-ins-trial-discussed-arsene-wenger/
Rule 102 of politics is the voters generally have short memories.
I expect Boris and Priti to be enjoying a summer break on Blackpool or Southend beach too with all those grateful Leave voters (when Priti has had a break from deporting asylum seekers to Rwanda)
Derby County thrust into another crisis after Chris Kirchner withdraws takeover bid
Moves raises fears manager Wayne Rooney could walk away and increases the scrutiny on Derby's administrators Quantuma
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2022/06/13/derby-county-thrust-another-crisis-chris-kirchner-withdraws/
But doesn't quite link with the cost of living crisis and things getting more expensive or Boris Johnson's rulebreaking... need some slogans for that too.
"Where did you fly to, Sunil?" I hear you ask.
Nowhere, I just rode the Elizabeth Line there and back
AEP and Kaletsky have made careers out of totally wrong predictions.
Apparently you pronounce Taoiseach as 'Tea Socks'
https://twitter.com/killianbyrne/status/1536398417659846656
And basically useless.
Incredible things are coming. But we're not there. Yet.
Robert’s 0.1% rule is real.
I can recommend touring Italy by train.
Lisbon: Street Art Tuk Tuk Tour:
https://www.viator.com/en-GB/tours/Lisbon/Lisbon-Street-Art-Tour-TUK-TUK-TOUR/d538-29654P23
My favourite piece (you'd never find it without a guide):
https://www.alamy.com/lisboa-lisboa-portugal-2nd-aug-2021-int-street-art-painted-murals-in-lisbon-august-2-2021-lisbon-portugal-mural-with-various-works-by-different-artists-in-an-open-air-gallery-in-marvila-neighborhood-in-lisbon-portugal-on-monday-2-credit-image-edson-de-souzathenews2-via-zuma-press-wire-image437200831.html
Pros and cons of bestiality?
Wasn't expecting that.
An article penned by Boris Johnson in 2005 has been making the rounds on social media after it unveiled some disturbing views on the banned sport of fox hunting.
Writing in the Spectator magazine, which he edited at the time, he confessed a love for hunting with dogs which in part stemmed from the “semi-sexual relation with the horse” and the “military-style pleasure” of moving as a unit.
https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/politics/boris-johnson-article-describing-his-semi-sexual-love-of-fox-hunting-resurfaces-195277/
Binance the exchange on the other hand, eesh.
One ascribes consciousness and sentience to other humans because they appear to be similar to oneself.
In future some humans will ascribe consciousness and sentience to an advanced AI and others will deny it. There will be no way to determine the fact of the matter.
So does it matter? Well yes it does - in how one treats an advanced AI.
The same problem arises with eating animals. It divides human opinion. Sometimes passionately.
The issue may eventually happen in reverse. Advanced AIs may converse about whether humans have the same experiences as they have, and should therefore be treated with respect - or not.
I don't want praise
I don't want Priti"
And I thought as a good Brexit you didn't approve of supranational organizations?
It’s like asking a TV repairman about dramatised Shakespeare. It’s like asking a street sweeper why the Champs Elysee is beautiful. It’s like asking a forex dealer whether it is worth buying a Modigliani
These people are geeks. They have no clue beyond the tiny narrow subset of their wonk expertise, which certainly does not extend to epistemology and philosophy
As this is a betting site I would conjecture that we'll total civilization first.
On a simpler plane, there exist programs that can translate Morse code into English (say). But they do not work very well if the code is sent by a human using a key or paddle unless they have a good "fist". On the other hand a trained human with his or her analogue brain can receive reliably at 30 words per minute or even to twice that or more. Just as for hand writing you can often recognize the sender by his or her fist.
I fear for you when it emerges alien created computer sentience is responsible for Covid-19.
You have seen some pretty pictures and some curated text scripts.
What is Z banging on about here - okay if the animal consents? 😠
“She made a sort of consensual baaa, so I didn’t think I was worrying her.”
Just come on here interested to see if I could get more information, and it seems what people think is they want to talk about IT, Dalle, text to speech and bestiality. So I'm guessing either nothing much was in the Bill, or nothing much objectionable was. I'm not sure which yet?
Odd
Seriously, how refreshing it is to watch a high level civilized sport event.
Computer experts are just techies. Whistling engineers in a garage. They know almost nothing beyond what spanner to employ
They can’t explain why it is exciting to drive your friend’s wife to Bolzano to fuck her in the back of your vintage Alfa Romeo
We have elevated them far enough. It’s time for them all to get back in their box. They are rude mechanicals and their scene is done, let the scriptwriters explain
SNP 44%
SLab 23%
SCon 19%
SLD 10%
Grn 3%
oth 2% (ie Alba)
R&W also find the Welsh Tories miles ahead of Welsh Labour. Some of their subsamples are so daft it casts severe doubt over their headlines.
Denmark is.
It seems the plan is to have no border officials anywhere on the border between the EU and a non-EU nation, because of considerations for the people living on the island. What a rational and sensible position to have, has anyone told the unicorn hunters of this new development?
Asked if it will be a hinderance to the talks or chances of future trade deal, White House spox said: "I don't believe it will be."
https://twitter.com/e_casalicchio/status/1536440200116699140
"Simpletons." Honestly I wasn't going to put this quite as plainly as this, but you are really not very bright. You are effectively telling me that you know a lot of people with domain expertise who laugh at the concept of heavier than air flight, whereas I am an untutored numpty who has just flown from London to Catania on a big metal thing, so what do I know? Everything you say about consciousness is a personal stipulation, and I know of no domain where personal stipulations carry any weight
The computer "experts" on here understand that there's a big difference between a generalised intelligence and one with a very narrow domain.
Image classification is something computers now do almost as well as humans. And five years from now, they will rule supreme. But image classifiers know... errr... image classifaction. You can't take an image classifier and say "Brilliant! Now let's move onto music!" Or you could, and it would look at you blankly.
Demis would tell you that the range of domains where computers rule is only get bigger and bigger. But he would also tell you that certain things are very hard with current ML models. And he'd also laugh if you suggested we were on the verge of the singularity.
And it is close upon us, at this dread hour
If goods moving from mainland UK into NI just for consumption in NI, why should it pass Through a EU border? It shouldn’t. It’s potty solution is the basis of the argument?
Goods for NI consumption should sail through under a green light. If it further crosses into EU, smuggling in other words, it’s in interest of EU to agree with us to harsh penalties on the smugglers, not insist on border somewhere - is the basis of your solution?
So it’s about now measuring you solution against the government proposals, because, although they could recognise the simple issue, they could still screw up your simple solution to it?
My suspicion is the EU and remainers have tried to exploit the unique sensitivities of a hard border in Ireland to take more than they fairly needed to. So your solution (if I understand and describe it right) sounds a perfectly workable solution to me, until someone convince me what’s wrong with it.
I do not find that universally true. I can certainly provide (careful Toms!) counterexamples. The same person can use logic. Or play with it.