OMFG this is the Daily Mail triple page splash to end all triple page splashes
Remember Putin’s Rasputin, Alexander Dugin? The mystical Russian nationalist guy who yearns for Russian supremacy and asked for Brexit and advised Putin to invade Ukraine et al
Turns out he is a sworn devotee of devil worshipping Aleister Crowley
“A deeper dive into the writings of “Putin’s Rasputin,” Aleksandr Dugin, reveals that his Neo-Eurasian worldview is influenced by chaos magick, which grew out of the teachings of 20th century occultist Aleister Crowley.”
OMFG this is the Daily Mail triple page splash to end all triple page splashes
Remember Putin’s Rasputin, Alexander Dugin? The mystical Russian nationalist guy who yearns for Russian supremacy and asked for Brexit and advised Putin to invade Ukraine et al
Turns out he is a sworn devotee of devil worshipping Aleister Crowley
“A deeper dive into the writings of “Putin’s Rasputin,” Aleksandr Dugin, reveals that his Neo-Eurasian worldview is influenced by chaos magick, which grew out of the teachings of 20th century occultist Aleister Crowley.”
A number of my friends had Crowley fetishes in their late teens. They all grew out of it.
It seems odd that anyone - except the exceptionally addled - could find anything remotely interesting in the mountain of shit he produced.
His poetry was awful, his paintings were worse, he has a weird squeaky voice (check recordings) and apparently he suffered awful halitosis
And yet he hypnotised many people - nubile women into his late 60s - and he exerts a remarkable influence on our culture to this day. And now it turns out he may be in some senses responsible for the Invasion of Ukraine
Chapeau, I say. Chapeau
I always wondered what happened to the goat
I don't want to encourage a seizure, but..
'The Italian poet and war veteran D’Annunzio might have come closest to the Thelemite ideal with his short-lived Free City of Fiume, a regime governed by the arts that attracted numerous rebels, from anarchists and syndicalists to nationalists.[30] Crowley does not mention D’Annunzio in his autobiography, even though Crowley was in Italy in 1920, and D’Annunzio’s enterprise ended in December of that year.[31]'
'Commenting on the new government food strategy, leaked to the Guardian on Friday, Batters said she was “pleased to see a commitment on food security” but added that the original strategy had been “stripped to the bare bones” and that there was no plan left on how to implement its overall aims.
“We want to be eating more British and more local food but again I just ask how,” she said, adding: “It’s all very well to have words but it’s got to have really meaningful delivery and we aren’t seeing that yet in this document.”
Batters said she met Johnson on Friday and told him that farmers wanted to be supported to produce food, as well as help the environment. “I said that is what farmers in Tiverton want to see. Farmers want the detail.” She said that at present there was no clear policy.'
Farmers have been thrown overboard to appease the teachings of the Great Helmsman.
Ah, so you want to be with the winners, which is why you're now a BoJo fan.
"Labour’s next leader must be Wes Streeting"
Please explain your workings.
Hes another David Miliband. Talked up because you've got to talk someone up. He will rock up with a banana at conference
maybe. I see what you are saying but I think is so much more controlled as a person that he wont. His media performances are top drawer, but there's something, I don't know what that says but to me...
OMFG this is the Daily Mail triple page splash to end all triple page splashes
Remember Putin’s Rasputin, Alexander Dugin? The mystical Russian nationalist guy who yearns for Russian supremacy and asked for Brexit and advised Putin to invade Ukraine et al
Turns out he is a sworn devotee of devil worshipping Aleister Crowley
“A deeper dive into the writings of “Putin’s Rasputin,” Aleksandr Dugin, reveals that his Neo-Eurasian worldview is influenced by chaos magick, which grew out of the teachings of 20th century occultist Aleister Crowley.”
Tax and spend is where Labour is vulnerable, because it'll help to rally the Tory voter base (who will inevitably be the primary targets of any hikes) to the cause,...
TBF, after this govt, Labour's past eye watering spending plans look like financial probity and fiscal rectitude. Johnson and Sunak literally hosed money on a scale never before witnessed. They made Gordon Brown look like a miser.
To be scrupulously fair, they did have the not-so-tiny excuse of a once-in-a-century plague cataclysm to deal with. They could reasonably get away with borrowing and printing money, which the rest of the Western world was doing to a greater or lesser extent at the same time, under such circumstances.
That, however, was exceptional. They can't get away with borrowing and printing forever; QE is being fingered by some economists as part of the reason for the inflationary spike as it is.
If Government can't pull those levers any more, or in any event can only use them to plug a proportion of the holes in its finances, then the only other options left to balance the books are austerity or tax rises. And I can see the next election being a competition between Labour tax rises and Tory austerity, and then it will depend on who can sell their policies the better. I think it likely that Labour will play the fairness card, with taxation being targeted at the earnings and assets of the comfortably off; the Tories will contend that more money isn't needed in the first place and that Labour is being profligate.
The result of the first Corbyn manifesto in 2017 suggests that Labour can, in theory, still get the vote out if it is sufficiently motivated. In practice, I'm concerned that traditional age-turnout profiles may assert themselves and the Tories will do better than most people are expecting, even if the current leader remains in charge (my husband thinks that the outcome of the next GE will more closely resemble 1992 than 1997.) But, in truth, who knows?
Ah, so you want to be with the winners, which is why you're now a BoJo fan.
"Labour’s next leader must be Wes Streeting"
Please explain your workings.
Hes another David Miliband. Talked up because you've got to talk someone up. He will rock up with a banana at conference
maybe. I see what you are saying but I think is so much more controlled as a person that he wont. His media performances are top drawer, but there's something, I don't know what that says but to me...
Ah, so you want to be with the winners, which is why you're now a BoJo fan.
"Labour’s next leader must be Wes Streeting"
Please explain your workings.
Hes another David Miliband. Talked up because you've got to talk someone up. He will rock up with a banana at conference
maybe. I see what you are saying but I think is so much more controlled as a person that he wont. His media performances are top drawer, but there's something, I don't know what that says but to me...
Labour will vote for a lass next time.
He’s been promoted exceptionally quickly - a comment on the post-Corbyn talent desert in the opposition - and would risk the same fate as Hague if he went next. He’d be wise to bide his time.
Unusual place to stumble across this, and unusual for Boris to get something right in not pandering for once. At least for now.
The Women Against State Pension Injustice (Waspi) campaign group has been recruiting senior political figures to support their campaign. They have now won public pledges of support from leaders across the political spectrum, with the exception of Prime Minister Boris Johnson.
Ah, so you want to be with the winners, which is why you're now a BoJo fan.
"Labour’s next leader must be Wes Streeting"
Please explain your workings.
Hes another David Miliband. Talked up because you've got to talk someone up. He will rock up with a banana at conference
maybe. I see what you are saying but I think is so much more controlled as a person that he wont. His media performances are top drawer, but there's something, I don't know what that says but to me...
Labour will vote for a lass next time.
Im being cheeky of course. What im gettimg at is he is being prematurely talked up like Miliband was, without any real evidence aside from he can talk to camera. Miliband turned out to be a dud yet Labour fawned over him for years as a ludicrous king over water figure. Streeting may or may not be a dud, time will tell but i fear he is already overpushed. Yes, girl next for them though
'Commenting on the new government food strategy, leaked to the Guardian on Friday, Batters said she was “pleased to see a commitment on food security” but added that the original strategy had been “stripped to the bare bones” and that there was no plan left on how to implement its overall aims.
“We want to be eating more British and more local food but again I just ask how,” she said, adding: “It’s all very well to have words but it’s got to have really meaningful delivery and we aren’t seeing that yet in this document.”
Batters said she met Johnson on Friday and told him that farmers wanted to be supported to produce food, as well as help the environment. “I said that is what farmers in Tiverton want to see. Farmers want the detail.” She said that at present there was no clear policy.'
I keep pointing this out up here. David Duguid represents a constituency which is farming, fishing and energy, and he is doing what he can to bugger all three. It will come back to bite him and all the rest of them on the bum.
Ah, so you want to be with the winners, which is why you're now a BoJo fan.
"Labour’s next leader must be Wes Streeting"
Please explain your workings.
Hes another David Miliband. Talked up because you've got to talk someone up. He will rock up with a banana at conference
maybe. I see what you are saying but I think is so much more controlled as a person that he wont. His media performances are top drawer, but there's something, I don't know what that says but to me...
Labour will vote for a lass next time.
Him being gay could be an issue for some.
I doubt it. Most of the country is past the point where this is likely to be a serious consideration. I suppose it might be off-putting to some religiously conservative demographic groups, but they are a relatively small minority and mainly concentrated in Labour safe seats.
The key barrier to Labour doing well at the next GE isn't the leadership of Starmer. The fact that he's grey and people therefore don't take much notice of him is quite sufficient to explain his poorer than expected performance in polls versus Boris Johnson. None of this matters, however, when we get to the next GE campaign, there's a lot of attention on the Labour leader and manifesto, and he can go head to head with the Prime Minister under circumstances in which the latter's gibbering buffoon schtick has long since ceased to be amusing, even to those who found it so in previous years.
No, the real issue is neither the leader nor presenting a coherent policy platform, i.e. demonstrating that Labour stands for something substantial. The real problem is that Labour is only going to be able to look serious to wavering electors, especially after the debacle of the second Corbyn manifesto with its almost limitless unfunded spending pledges, by rigorously costing everything and explaining where the money is going to come from. The public sector, particularly as concerns the perennial problem areas of health and social care, is in a decrepit state, putting it right is going to require even more money, and - whilst Labour can probably get away with borrowing to invest up to a point - a lot of that is going to have to come from yet more tax rises.
Tax and spend is where Labour is vulnerable, because it'll help to rally the Tory voter base (who will inevitably be the primary targets of any hikes) to the cause, and allow the Conservatives to scream about profligacy whilst simultaneously shaking their own magic money tree (i.e. pretending that cutting taxes instead will magically generate any extra funding needed, because Laffer Curve,) or simply stating that the extra funding isn't really needed at all. Expect plenty of the traditional guff about efficiency savings and LGBTQIA+ arts officers in district councils to be trotted out during the next election campaign.
Ultimately, the Tory core vote is both efficiently distributed and very selfish. It won't be at all difficult to convince them to troop back out to vote for any Tory Government, including one led by Boris Johnson, if they think that the alternative will cost them any money at all. Given also the Scottish situation, the aim has to be to seize enough territory from the Conservatives to remove them from office, and then worry about what to do with the new Parliamentary arithmetic after that. Labour will be doing very well if it can become the largest single party; a repetition of 1997 is not on the cards.
Labours result will be worse than 2017 and only slightly better than 2019 despite the worst Cost of Living Crisis since Thatcher
So, you think that he'll get - what - 210-220 seats? (Admittedly with much tougher boundaries than Corbyn faced.)
Well. I love a man willing to make a prediction. Personally, I reckon the likeliest outcome is that he'll get somewhere around 250 seats; but given the LDs could well be back in the 20s, and the SNP will be close to sweeping the board in Scotland, that will probably be enough to deny the Conservatives a majority.
Ah, so you want to be with the winners, which is why you're now a BoJo fan.
"Labour’s next leader must be Wes Streeting"
Please explain your workings.
Hes another David Miliband. Talked up because you've got to talk someone up. He will rock up with a banana at conference
maybe. I see what you are saying but I think is so much more controlled as a person that he wont. His media performances are top drawer, but there's something, I don't know what that says but to me...
Labour will vote for a lass next time.
Him being gay could be an issue for some.
I doubt it. Most of the country is past the point where this is likely to be a serious consideration. I suppose it might be off-putting to some religiously conservative demographic groups, but they are a relatively small minority and mainly concentrated in Labour safe seats.
Sadly it only needs to be an issue for 4 or 5% and its maybe 30 to 40 seats difference overall
Looks like trouble brewing again for intra-Tory, internecine strife over the legislation to override the Brexit deal :
"One Tory source: “Rebellion already bewing. The govt is lying to its own MPs & the media about the illegal focus of this bill. The Tory party is sleepwalking into a repeat of the Owen Paterson vote & Partygate – yet again positioning the party full square in support of law-breaking over rule of law.” 4/7
OMFG this is the Daily Mail triple page splash to end all triple page splashes
Remember Putin’s Rasputin, Alexander Dugin? The mystical Russian nationalist guy who yearns for Russian supremacy and asked for Brexit and advised Putin to invade Ukraine et al
Turns out he is a sworn devotee of devil worshipping Aleister Crowley
“A deeper dive into the writings of “Putin’s Rasputin,” Aleksandr Dugin, reveals that his Neo-Eurasian worldview is influenced by chaos magick, which grew out of the teachings of 20th century occultist Aleister Crowley.”
A number of my friends had Crowley fetishes in their late teens. They all grew out of it.
It seems odd that anyone - except the exceptionally addled - could find anything remotely interesting in the mountain of shit he produced.
His poetry was awful, his paintings were worse, he has a weird squeaky voice (check recordings) and apparently he suffered awful halitosis
And yet he hypnotised many people - nubile women into his late 60s - and he exerts a remarkable influence on our culture to this day. And now it turns out he may be in some senses responsible for the Invasion of Ukraine
Chapeau, I say. Chapeau
I always wondered what happened to the goat
I don't want to encourage a seizure, but..
'The Italian poet and war veteran D’Annunzio might have come closest to the Thelemite ideal with his short-lived Free City of Fiume, a regime governed by the arts that attracted numerous rebels, from anarchists and syndicalists to nationalists.[30] Crowley does not mention D’Annunzio in his autobiography, even though Crowley was in Italy in 1920, and D’Annunzio’s enterprise ended in December of that year.[31]'
Reverting to the triggering of an Extraordinary Meeting of the Conservative Party's National Convention, it is not some "obscure clause" of the Constitution but rules 12 and 13 in Schedule 3 (the Schedule that goes into detail about the National Convention). There is no secret about this provision - it is in plain sight and a copy of the Constitution is registered with the Electoral Commission.
The key barrier to Labour doing well at the next GE isn't the leadership of Starmer. The fact that he's grey and people therefore don't take much notice of him is quite sufficient to explain his poorer than expected performance in polls versus Boris Johnson. None of this matters, however, when we get to the next GE campaign, there's a lot of attention on the Labour leader and manifesto, and he can go head to head with the Prime Minister under circumstances in which the latter's gibbering buffoon schtick has long since ceased to be amusing, even to those who found it so in previous years.
No, the real issue is neither the leader nor presenting a coherent policy platform, i.e. demonstrating that Labour stands for something substantial. The real problem is that Labour is only going to be able to look serious to wavering electors, especially after the debacle of the second Corbyn manifesto with its almost limitless unfunded spending pledges, by rigorously costing everything and explaining where the money is going to come from. The public sector, particularly as concerns the perennial problem areas of health and social care, is in a decrepit state, putting it right is going to require even more money, and - whilst Labour can probably get away with borrowing to invest up to a point - a lot of that is going to have to come from yet more tax rises.
Tax and spend is where Labour is vulnerable, because it'll help to rally the Tory voter base (who will inevitably be the primary targets of any hikes) to the cause, and allow the Conservatives to scream about profligacy whilst simultaneously shaking their own magic money tree (i.e. pretending that cutting taxes instead will magically generate any extra funding needed, because Laffer Curve,) or simply stating that the extra funding isn't really needed at all. Expect plenty of the traditional guff about efficiency savings and LGBTQIA+ arts officers in district councils to be trotted out during the next election campaign.
Ultimately, the Tory core vote is both efficiently distributed and very selfish. It won't be at all difficult to convince them to troop back out to vote for any Tory Government, including one led by Boris Johnson, if they think that the alternative will cost them any money at all. Given also the Scottish situation, the aim has to be to seize enough territory from the Conservatives to remove them from office, and then worry about what to do with the new Parliamentary arithmetic after that. Labour will be doing very well if it can become the largest single party; a repetition of 1997 is not on the cards.
Labours result will be worse than 2017 and only slightly better than 2019 despite the worst Cost of Living Crisis since Thatcher
So, you think that he'll get - what - 210-220 seats? (Admittedly with much tougher boundaries than Corbyn faced.)
Well. I love a man willing to make a prediction. Personally, I reckon the likeliest outcome is that he'll get somewhere around 250 seats; but given the LDs could well be back in the 20s, and the SNP will be close to sweeping the board in Scotland, that will probably be enough to deny the Conservatives a majority.
Shall we make 235 the bet line? £1/seat?
SNP very hard to judge this time. Ive got them likely closer to 2017 than 2019 or halfway between maybe as i dont expect an unusually big nationalist turnout for another UK election. 40 to 45 seats i think. Which is still complete dominance of course
OMFG this is the Daily Mail triple page splash to end all triple page splashes
Remember Putin’s Rasputin, Alexander Dugin? The mystical Russian nationalist guy who yearns for Russian supremacy and asked for Brexit and advised Putin to invade Ukraine et al
Turns out he is a sworn devotee of devil worshipping Aleister Crowley
“A deeper dive into the writings of “Putin’s Rasputin,” Aleksandr Dugin, reveals that his Neo-Eurasian worldview is influenced by chaos magick, which grew out of the teachings of 20th century occultist Aleister Crowley.”
A number of my friends had Crowley fetishes in their late teens. They all grew out of it.
It seems odd that anyone - except the exceptionally addled - could find anything remotely interesting in the mountain of shit he produced.
His poetry was awful, his paintings were worse, he has a weird squeaky voice (check recordings) and apparently he suffered awful halitosis
And yet he hypnotised many people - nubile women into his late 60s - and he exerts a remarkable influence on our culture to this day. And now it turns out he may be in some senses responsible for the Invasion of Ukraine
Chapeau, I say. Chapeau
I always wondered what happened to the goat
I don't want to encourage a seizure, but..
'The Italian poet and war veteran D’Annunzio might have come closest to the Thelemite ideal with his short-lived Free City of Fiume, a regime governed by the arts that attracted numerous rebels, from anarchists and syndicalists to nationalists.[30] Crowley does not mention D’Annunzio in his autobiography, even though Crowley was in Italy in 1920, and D’Annunzio’s enterprise ended in December of that year.[31]'
Ah, so you want to be with the winners, which is why you're now a BoJo fan.
"Labour’s next leader must be Wes Streeting"
Please explain your workings.
Hes another David Miliband. Talked up because you've got to talk someone up. He will rock up with a banana at conference
maybe. I see what you are saying but I think is so much more controlled as a person that he wont. His media performances are top drawer, but there's something, I don't know what that says but to me...
Labour will vote for a lass next time.
Trouble is, the ones they have at the forefront are even more underwhelming than Starmer.
Ah, so you want to be with the winners, which is why you're now a BoJo fan.
"Labour’s next leader must be Wes Streeting"
Please explain your workings.
Hes another David Miliband. Talked up because you've got to talk someone up. He will rock up with a banana at conference
maybe. I see what you are saying but I think is so much more controlled as a person that he wont. His media performances are top drawer, but there's something, I don't know what that says but to me...
Labour will vote for a lass next time.
Him being gay could be an issue for some.
I doubt it. Most of the country is past the point where this is likely to be a serious consideration. I suppose it might be off-putting to some religiously conservative demographic groups, but they are a relatively small minority and mainly concentrated in Labour safe seats.
Yes we are a much more tolerant country than even 20 years ago, but there are a fair few inner city seats with religious enclaves who are less keen on homosexuality. As you say, probably concentrated in safe seats anyway, but I do think it is a factor (among others). Personally think he is quite good, but there is the danger of projection on any face that is not yet that well known.
ohnotnow said: " If you enjoy sci-fi (especially low-budget-but-serious) then 'Europa Report' is worth a watch on this subject." (of life on outer solar system moons)
'Commenting on the new government food strategy, leaked to the Guardian on Friday, Batters said she was “pleased to see a commitment on food security” but added that the original strategy had been “stripped to the bare bones” and that there was no plan left on how to implement its overall aims.
“We want to be eating more British and more local food but again I just ask how,” she said, adding: “It’s all very well to have words but it’s got to have really meaningful delivery and we aren’t seeing that yet in this document.”
Batters said she met Johnson on Friday and told him that farmers wanted to be supported to produce food, as well as help the environment. “I said that is what farmers in Tiverton want to see. Farmers want the detail.” She said that at present there was no clear policy.'
I keep pointing this out up here. David Duguid represents a constituency which is farming, fishing and energy, and he is doing what he can to bugger all three. It will come back to bite him and all the rest of them on the bum.
Food and farming is yet another thorny issue that no Government is going to find easy to solve, because a big part of the solution to simultaneously achieving a healthier environment and better food security is to promote more plant based diets and end the era of everyday meat consumption (and to clarify, I say that as an omnivore not a vegan lobbyist.) Each acre that can be turned over to arable rather than livestock farming represents a reduction in carbon footprint and, critically, less animal shit to be dealt with - and in some parts of this country animal shit is a worse threat to the health of rivers than sewage release by water companies.
Of course, in the middle of an inflationary spike when household budgets are already under pressure, the last thing a lot of folk want to be told is that meat and dairy generally should be used more sparingly, and that products like roasting chickens as well as beef steaks ought to be regarded as luxuries. Everybody likes cheap stuff and nobody wants to hear bad news.
Todays press is reporting that a focus group in Wakefield (where a by-election is pending) has marked @Keir_Starmer as “weak” “a barrier to voting Labour” and “a slippery slime ball”.
'Commenting on the new government food strategy, leaked to the Guardian on Friday, Batters said she was “pleased to see a commitment on food security” but added that the original strategy had been “stripped to the bare bones” and that there was no plan left on how to implement its overall aims.
“We want to be eating more British and more local food but again I just ask how,” she said, adding: “It’s all very well to have words but it’s got to have really meaningful delivery and we aren’t seeing that yet in this document.”
Batters said she met Johnson on Friday and told him that farmers wanted to be supported to produce food, as well as help the environment. “I said that is what farmers in Tiverton want to see. Farmers want the detail.” She said that at present there was no clear policy.'
I keep pointing this out up here. David Duguid represents a constituency which is farming, fishing and energy, and he is doing what he can to bugger all three. It will come back to bite him and all the rest of them on the bum.
Food and farming is yet another thorny issue that no Government is going to find easy to solve, because a big part of the solution to simultaneously achieving a healthier environment and better food security is to promote more plant based diets and end the era of everyday meat consumption (and to clarify, I say that as an omnivore not a vegan lobbyist.) Each acre that can be turned over to arable rather than livestock farming represents a reduction in carbon footprint and, critically, less animal shit to be dealt with - and in some parts of this country animal shit is a worse threat to the health of rivers than sewage release by water companies.
Of course, in the middle of an inflationary spike when household budgets are already under pressure, the last thing a lot of folk want to be told is that meat and dairy generally should be used more sparingly, and that products like roasting chickens as well as beef steaks ought to be regarded as luxuries. Everybody likes cheap stuff and nobody wants to hear bad news.
Thing is that I AM - in a way - a "vegan lobbyist". But the required shift to more plant-based foods (because we are literally running out of planet to grow the crops to grow the meat that a growing population demands) will be good for farming.
Take away the pressure and you remove the need for industrial farming of the kind which is destroying ecosystems and lowering quality. Better quality meat reared more kindly to both the animals and the environment and sold for more profit will be the result of more plant-based food.
IshmaelZ - If you are interested in modern slavery, you might want to read Francis Bok's book, "Escape from Slavery". His personal story is quite remarkable: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francis_Bok
Amazingly, considering what he went through, Bok has a good sense of humor. I got a kick out of his descriptions of his encounters with snow in North Dakota, and trying to find ready-to-wear clothes. (There aren't many American men who are six feet, six inches tall -- and weigh 150 pounds.)
The key barrier to Labour doing well at the next GE isn't the leadership of Starmer. The fact that he's grey and people therefore don't take much notice of him is quite sufficient to explain his poorer than expected performance in polls versus Boris Johnson. None of this matters, however, when we get to the next GE campaign, there's a lot of attention on the Labour leader and manifesto, and he can go head to head with the Prime Minister under circumstances in which the latter's gibbering buffoon schtick has long since ceased to be amusing, even to those who found it so in previous years.
No, the real issue is neither the leader nor presenting a coherent policy platform, i.e. demonstrating that Labour stands for something substantial. The real problem is that Labour is only going to be able to look serious to wavering electors, especially after the debacle of the second Corbyn manifesto with its almost limitless unfunded spending pledges, by rigorously costing everything and explaining where the money is going to come from. The public sector, particularly as concerns the perennial problem areas of health and social care, is in a decrepit state, putting it right is going to require even more money, and - whilst Labour can probably get away with borrowing to invest up to a point - a lot of that is going to have to come from yet more tax rises.
Tax and spend is where Labour is vulnerable, because it'll help to rally the Tory voter base (who will inevitably be the primary targets of any hikes) to the cause, and allow the Conservatives to scream about profligacy whilst simultaneously shaking their own magic money tree (i.e. pretending that cutting taxes instead will magically generate any extra funding needed, because Laffer Curve,) or simply stating that the extra funding isn't really needed at all. Expect plenty of the traditional guff about efficiency savings and LGBTQIA+ arts officers in district councils to be trotted out during the next election campaign.
Ultimately, the Tory core vote is both efficiently distributed and very selfish. It won't be at all difficult to convince them to troop back out to vote for any Tory Government, including one led by Boris Johnson, if they think that the alternative will cost them any money at all. Given also the Scottish situation, the aim has to be to seize enough territory from the Conservatives to remove them from office, and then worry about what to do with the new Parliamentary arithmetic after that. Labour will be doing very well if it can become the largest single party; a repetition of 1997 is not on the cards.
Labours result will be worse than 2017 and only slightly better than 2019 despite the worst Cost of Living Crisis since Thatcher
You make absolutely no sense whatsoever. If the Conservatives are on a similar number to 2019 (unless that is due to Johnson fighting hand to hand with Putin on the streets of Moscow, and winning) you and I will NEVER see non-Conservative governments EVER again, whether Labour are led by Starmer or the ghost of Karl Marx himself.
Similary, @Keir_Starmer's approval rating remains level on -6.
30% approve of the job he is doing (nc) 36% disapprove of the job he is doing (nc)
And yet Keir remains the most popular leader since Blair
You do know as soon as labour releases a manifesto they are going to plummet I assume....they are polling well till they actually say what they will do then people will go nah fuck off idiots
The key barrier to Labour doing well at the next GE isn't the leadership of Starmer. The fact that he's grey and people therefore don't take much notice of him is quite sufficient to explain his poorer than expected performance in polls versus Boris Johnson. None of this matters, however, when we get to the next GE campaign, there's a lot of attention on the Labour leader and manifesto, and he can go head to head with the Prime Minister under circumstances in which the latter's gibbering buffoon schtick has long since ceased to be amusing, even to those who found it so in previous years.
No, the real issue is neither the leader nor presenting a coherent policy platform, i.e. demonstrating that Labour stands for something substantial. The real problem is that Labour is only going to be able to look serious to wavering electors, especially after the debacle of the second Corbyn manifesto with its almost limitless unfunded spending pledges, by rigorously costing everything and explaining where the money is going to come from. The public sector, particularly as concerns the perennial problem areas of health and social care, is in a decrepit state, putting it right is going to require even more money, and - whilst Labour can probably get away with borrowing to invest up to a point - a lot of that is going to have to come from yet more tax rises.
Tax and spend is where Labour is vulnerable, because it'll help to rally the Tory voter base (who will inevitably be the primary targets of any hikes) to the cause, and allow the Conservatives to scream about profligacy whilst simultaneously shaking their own magic money tree (i.e. pretending that cutting taxes instead will magically generate any extra funding needed, because Laffer Curve,) or simply stating that the extra funding isn't really needed at all. Expect plenty of the traditional guff about efficiency savings and LGBTQIA+ arts officers in district councils to be trotted out during the next election campaign.
Ultimately, the Tory core vote is both efficiently distributed and very selfish. It won't be at all difficult to convince them to troop back out to vote for any Tory Government, including one led by Boris Johnson, if they think that the alternative will cost them any money at all. Given also the Scottish situation, the aim has to be to seize enough territory from the Conservatives to remove them from office, and then worry about what to do with the new Parliamentary arithmetic after that. Labour will be doing very well if it can become the largest single party; a repetition of 1997 is not on the cards.
Labours result will be worse than 2017 and only slightly better than 2019 despite the worst Cost of Living Crisis since Thatcher
You make absolutely no sense whatsoever. If the Conservatives are on a similar number to 2019 (unless that is due to Johnson fighting hand to hand with Putin on the streets of Moscow, and winning) you and I will NEVER see non-Conservative governments EVER again, whether Labour are led by Starmer or the ghost of Karl Marx himself.
You will see non-Conservative governments again
Its just Labour ones You will NEVER EVER see again
The key barrier to Labour doing well at the next GE isn't the leadership of Starmer. The fact that he's grey and people therefore don't take much notice of him is quite sufficient to explain his poorer than expected performance in polls versus Boris Johnson. None of this matters, however, when we get to the next GE campaign, there's a lot of attention on the Labour leader and manifesto, and he can go head to head with the Prime Minister under circumstances in which the latter's gibbering buffoon schtick has long since ceased to be amusing, even to those who found it so in previous years.
No, the real issue is neither the leader nor presenting a coherent policy platform, i.e. demonstrating that Labour stands for something substantial. The real problem is that Labour is only going to be able to look serious to wavering electors, especially after the debacle of the second Corbyn manifesto with its almost limitless unfunded spending pledges, by rigorously costing everything and explaining where the money is going to come from. The public sector, particularly as concerns the perennial problem areas of health and social care, is in a decrepit state, putting it right is going to require even more money, and - whilst Labour can probably get away with borrowing to invest up to a point - a lot of that is going to have to come from yet more tax rises.
Tax and spend is where Labour is vulnerable, because it'll help to rally the Tory voter base (who will inevitably be the primary targets of any hikes) to the cause, and allow the Conservatives to scream about profligacy whilst simultaneously shaking their own magic money tree (i.e. pretending that cutting taxes instead will magically generate any extra funding needed, because Laffer Curve,) or simply stating that the extra funding isn't really needed at all. Expect plenty of the traditional guff about efficiency savings and LGBTQIA+ arts officers in district councils to be trotted out during the next election campaign.
Ultimately, the Tory core vote is both efficiently distributed and very selfish. It won't be at all difficult to convince them to troop back out to vote for any Tory Government, including one led by Boris Johnson, if they think that the alternative will cost them any money at all. Given also the Scottish situation, the aim has to be to seize enough territory from the Conservatives to remove them from office, and then worry about what to do with the new Parliamentary arithmetic after that. Labour will be doing very well if it can become the largest single party; a repetition of 1997 is not on the cards.
Labours result will be worse than 2017 and only slightly better than 2019 despite the worst Cost of Living Crisis since Thatcher
You make absolutely no sense whatsoever. If the Conservatives are on a similar number to 2019 (unless that is due to Johnson fighting hand to hand with Putin on the streets of Moscow, and winning) you and I will NEVER see non-Conservative governments EVER again, whether Labour are led by Starmer or the ghost of Karl Marx himself.
You will see non-Conservative governments again
Its just Labour ones You will NEVER EVER see again
Similary, @Keir_Starmer's approval rating remains level on -6.
30% approve of the job he is doing (nc) 36% disapprove of the job he is doing (nc)
And yet Keir remains the most popular leader since Blair
You do know as soon as labour releases a manifesto they are going to plummet I assume....they are polling well till they actually say what they will do then people will go nah fuck off idiots
The manifesto will be pure vanilla. No idiocy to scare people.
Similary, @Keir_Starmer's approval rating remains level on -6.
30% approve of the job he is doing (nc) 36% disapprove of the job he is doing (nc)
And yet Keir remains the most popular leader since Blair
You do know as soon as labour releases a manifesto they are going to plummet I assume....they are polling well till they actually say what they will do then people will go nah fuck off idiots
How you Johnson rampers think he gets a free ride over the economy baffles me.
OMFG this is the Daily Mail triple page splash to end all triple page splashes
Remember Putin’s Rasputin, Alexander Dugin? The mystical Russian nationalist guy who yearns for Russian supremacy and asked for Brexit and advised Putin to invade Ukraine et al
Turns out he is a sworn devotee of devil worshipping Aleister Crowley
“A deeper dive into the writings of “Putin’s Rasputin,” Aleksandr Dugin, reveals that his Neo-Eurasian worldview is influenced by chaos magick, which grew out of the teachings of 20th century occultist Aleister Crowley.”
The key barrier to Labour doing well at the next GE isn't the leadership of Starmer. The fact that he's grey and people therefore don't take much notice of him is quite sufficient to explain his poorer than expected performance in polls versus Boris Johnson. None of this matters, however, when we get to the next GE campaign, there's a lot of attention on the Labour leader and manifesto, and he can go head to head with the Prime Minister under circumstances in which the latter's gibbering buffoon schtick has long since ceased to be amusing, even to those who found it so in previous years.
No, the real issue is neither the leader nor presenting a coherent policy platform, i.e. demonstrating that Labour stands for something substantial. The real problem is that Labour is only going to be able to look serious to wavering electors, especially after the debacle of the second Corbyn manifesto with its almost limitless unfunded spending pledges, by rigorously costing everything and explaining where the money is going to come from. The public sector, particularly as concerns the perennial problem areas of health and social care, is in a decrepit state, putting it right is going to require even more money, and - whilst Labour can probably get away with borrowing to invest up to a point - a lot of that is going to have to come from yet more tax rises.
Tax and spend is where Labour is vulnerable, because it'll help to rally the Tory voter base (who will inevitably be the primary targets of any hikes) to the cause, and allow the Conservatives to scream about profligacy whilst simultaneously shaking their own magic money tree (i.e. pretending that cutting taxes instead will magically generate any extra funding needed, because Laffer Curve,) or simply stating that the extra funding isn't really needed at all. Expect plenty of the traditional guff about efficiency savings and LGBTQIA+ arts officers in district councils to be trotted out during the next election campaign.
Ultimately, the Tory core vote is both efficiently distributed and very selfish. It won't be at all difficult to convince them to troop back out to vote for any Tory Government, including one led by Boris Johnson, if they think that the alternative will cost them any money at all. Given also the Scottish situation, the aim has to be to seize enough territory from the Conservatives to remove them from office, and then worry about what to do with the new Parliamentary arithmetic after that. Labour will be doing very well if it can become the largest single party; a repetition of 1997 is not on the cards.
Labours result will be worse than 2017 and only slightly better than 2019 despite the worst Cost of Living Crisis since Thatcher
You make absolutely no sense whatsoever. If the Conservatives are on a similar number to 2019 (unless that is due to Johnson fighting hand to hand with Putin on the streets of Moscow, and winning) you and I will NEVER see non-Conservative governments EVER again, whether Labour are led by Starmer or the ghost of Karl Marx himself.
You will see non-Conservative governments again
Its just Labour ones You will NEVER EVER see again
The key barrier to Labour doing well at the next GE isn't the leadership of Starmer. The fact that he's grey and people therefore don't take much notice of him is quite sufficient to explain his poorer than expected performance in polls versus Boris Johnson. None of this matters, however, when we get to the next GE campaign, there's a lot of attention on the Labour leader and manifesto, and he can go head to head with the Prime Minister under circumstances in which the latter's gibbering buffoon schtick has long since ceased to be amusing, even to those who found it so in previous years.
No, the real issue is neither the leader nor presenting a coherent policy platform, i.e. demonstrating that Labour stands for something substantial. The real problem is that Labour is only going to be able to look serious to wavering electors, especially after the debacle of the second Corbyn manifesto with its almost limitless unfunded spending pledges, by rigorously costing everything and explaining where the money is going to come from. The public sector, particularly as concerns the perennial problem areas of health and social care, is in a decrepit state, putting it right is going to require even more money, and - whilst Labour can probably get away with borrowing to invest up to a point - a lot of that is going to have to come from yet more tax rises.
Tax and spend is where Labour is vulnerable, because it'll help to rally the Tory voter base (who will inevitably be the primary targets of any hikes) to the cause, and allow the Conservatives to scream about profligacy whilst simultaneously shaking their own magic money tree (i.e. pretending that cutting taxes instead will magically generate any extra funding needed, because Laffer Curve,) or simply stating that the extra funding isn't really needed at all. Expect plenty of the traditional guff about efficiency savings and LGBTQIA+ arts officers in district councils to be trotted out during the next election campaign.
Ultimately, the Tory core vote is both efficiently distributed and very selfish. It won't be at all difficult to convince them to troop back out to vote for any Tory Government, including one led by Boris Johnson, if they think that the alternative will cost them any money at all. Given also the Scottish situation, the aim has to be to seize enough territory from the Conservatives to remove them from office, and then worry about what to do with the new Parliamentary arithmetic after that. Labour will be doing very well if it can become the largest single party; a repetition of 1997 is not on the cards.
Labours result will be worse than 2017 and only slightly better than 2019 despite the worst Cost of Living Crisis since Thatcher
You make absolutely no sense whatsoever. If the Conservatives are on a similar number to 2019 (unless that is due to Johnson fighting hand to hand with Putin on the streets of Moscow, and winning) you and I will NEVER see non-Conservative governments EVER again, whether Labour are led by Starmer or the ghost of Karl Marx himself.
You will see non-Conservative governments again
Its just Labour ones You will NEVER EVER see again
OMFG this is the Daily Mail triple page splash to end all triple page splashes
Remember Putin’s Rasputin, Alexander Dugin? The mystical Russian nationalist guy who yearns for Russian supremacy and asked for Brexit and advised Putin to invade Ukraine et al
Turns out he is a sworn devotee of devil worshipping Aleister Crowley
“A deeper dive into the writings of “Putin’s Rasputin,” Aleksandr Dugin, reveals that his Neo-Eurasian worldview is influenced by chaos magick, which grew out of the teachings of 20th century occultist Aleister Crowley.”
Truly bizarre. This means that he shares a cultural lineage with Jiimmy Page and David Bowie, yet presents himself as arising organically out of the mystic east of Slavic Civiisation. Would be comical if he wasn't so dangerous.
'Commenting on the new government food strategy, leaked to the Guardian on Friday, Batters said she was “pleased to see a commitment on food security” but added that the original strategy had been “stripped to the bare bones” and that there was no plan left on how to implement its overall aims.
“We want to be eating more British and more local food but again I just ask how,” she said, adding: “It’s all very well to have words but it’s got to have really meaningful delivery and we aren’t seeing that yet in this document.”
Batters said she met Johnson on Friday and told him that farmers wanted to be supported to produce food, as well as help the environment. “I said that is what farmers in Tiverton want to see. Farmers want the detail.” She said that at present there was no clear policy.'
I keep pointing this out up here. David Duguid represents a constituency which is farming, fishing and energy, and he is doing what he can to bugger all three. It will come back to bite him and all the rest of them on the bum.
Food and farming is yet another thorny issue that no Government is going to find easy to solve, because a big part of the solution to simultaneously achieving a healthier environment and better food security is to promote more plant based diets and end the era of everyday meat consumption (and to clarify, I say that as an omnivore not a vegan lobbyist.) Each acre that can be turned over to arable rather than livestock farming represents a reduction in carbon footprint and, critically, less animal shit to be dealt with - and in some parts of this country animal shit is a worse threat to the health of rivers than sewage release by water companies.
Of course, in the middle of an inflationary spike when household budgets are already under pressure, the last thing a lot of folk want to be told is that meat and dairy generally should be used more sparingly, and that products like roasting chickens as well as beef steaks ought to be regarded as luxuries. Everybody likes cheap stuff and nobody wants to hear bad news.
Thing is that I AM - in a way - a "vegan lobbyist". But the required shift to more plant-based foods (because we are literally running out of planet to grow the crops to grow the meat that a growing population demands) will be good for farming.
Take away the pressure and you remove the need for industrial farming of the kind which is destroying ecosystems and lowering quality. Better quality meat reared more kindly to both the animals and the environment and sold for more profit will be the result of more plant-based food.
Farms based on rotation between livestock and arable is the best way of farming. The current push toward plant based is moving from shitty meat fed on shitty cash crops, to cutting out the middle man, and just feeding the populace on the shitty cash crop. Arguably the meat is healthier because at least it offers the same low quality ingredients in a more digestible form.
Tax and spend is where Labour is vulnerable, because it'll help to rally the Tory voter base (who will inevitably be the primary targets of any hikes) to the cause,...
TBF, after this govt, Labour's past eye watering spending plans look like financial probity and fiscal rectitude. Johnson and Sunak literally hosed money on a scale never before witnessed. They made Gordon Brown look like a miser.
TBF if corbyn had won in 2019 we would have the eye watering spending plus the covid spending
And have found it fascinating. (Not being a historian, I can't vouch for the accuracy of every detail, but I haven't seen anything suspicious in it.)
Example: "International slave trade made a felony in Act Prohibiting Importation of Slaves; this act takes effect on 1 January 1808, the earliest date permitted under the Constitution."
"Abolition of the Slave Trade Act abolishes slave trading throughout the British Empire. Captains fined £120 per slave transported. Patrols sent to the African coast to arrest slaving vessels."
(Britain and the United States decided on these bans, independently, within a few weeks of each other.)
Don't forget that they also holding the jungle primary for the November's election at the same time, the candidate lists aren't the same, and it's entirely possible that the winner of the special won't even be in the final round in November.
Also, remember that there's the ranked choice voting of the top four candidates.
In the general. Today's rule is, vote for just ONE candidate out of 51 on ballot (plus write-ins IF you want to get creative!)
April 1 by 5pm - Candidate Filing Deadline April 4 by 12pm - Candidate Withdrawal Deadline April 27 - Ballots Mailed to Voters May 12 - Voter Registration Deadline May 27 - Early & Absentee In-Person Voting Begins May 27 - Voters may apply to request a ballot be delivered electronically May 27 - Absentee Review Board Begins June 11 - Requests for electronic ballot delivery must be received by 5pm June 11 - Election Day June 11 - Ballots must either be postmarked by this day or physically received by DOE June 11 - First ballot count June 15 - Second ballot count June 17 - Third ballot count June 21 - Deadline to Receive Absentee Ballots June 21 - Final ballot count June 23 - State Review Board begins June 25 - Target certification date June 26 by 12:00pm - Candidate withdrawal deadline for the Special General Election [August 16, same day as regular Alaska primary]
Ballots issued and returned as of Friday night, June 10
Issued = 507,997 (all active registered voters) Received = 125,751 (24.8%) > lot of returns today PLUS returns with valid postmarks after today, will be interesting to see just how much there is there AND how much gets counted for tonight's initial, unofficial results.
While 28% think Johnson would make the best prime minister, 26% opted for Starmer.
That is a travesty for SKS. If he cant beat Bozo in a head to head in these circumstances......... Obviously other polls have him ahead and its one poll only but this one figure set should alarm Labour
How much of the whole poll has swingback built in?
We agree the lead is actually 6% and Opinion ultra tough on Labour lead and shares, but there’s definitely drop off in Tory support in their sequence of polls, with that swing back built in, I reckon the raw figure (which they never share now?) before under the bonnet sorcery is much larger than 6. the 55% alliance figure is very consistent in the sequence.
I dont know Rabbit. It all feels very holding pattern. Since the VONC we have redfield -2, Techne and Opinium +1 for Tories, margin of error stuff. Tories near their basement and Labour not convincing the electorate enough? The ComRes looks the outlier, everything else bouncing about the 6 or 7 lead (with opiniums different methofology keeping it 2 to 5 range). But im not sure. The best PM figure suggests labour would struggle to build a massive lead at the moment, but maybe a Zelensky/war leader mini effect is artificially boosting him for now?
The people posting here do know this is an under the bonnet opinion poll, the 33% and 34% for Tories in last two are swing back adjusted, and that’s why we love this poll so much?
Would be funny to see someone post with two weeks to go “we are only 5 behind on last Opiniom so still in with a chance”
I agree this 2% adjusted is the 6/7% unadjusted from others. But what if there isn’t any swingback during next election? It looks like Tories will find it hard getting behind Johnson and foot solider for him, so maybe 4 or 5 lead is happy days for Labour. If you offer Labour a 4 or 5% election win tonight and Libdems doubling their MPs, surely both parties would snap your hand off? It would put them in power.
Would be interesting to see if greens poll 7 or 8 on election night, we are presuming not so will the labour lead grow at Green expense as we enter the last weeks and months to polling?
Similary, @Keir_Starmer's approval rating remains level on -6.
30% approve of the job he is doing (nc) 36% disapprove of the job he is doing (nc)
And yet Keir remains the most popular leader since Blair
You do know as soon as labour releases a manifesto they are going to plummet I assume....they are polling well till they actually say what they will do then people will go nah fuck off idiots
The manifesto will be pure vanilla. No idiocy to scare people.
Doesn't matter if it is....labour has no answers to the cost of living and everyone one knows they are total planks, they will take one look at the manifesto and go yeah no thanks. I want tories out of power....I despise them just labour is worse and lib dems are beyond condemnation.
For most people in this country now the election is do you want syphilis , gonorhea or herpes
Similary, @Keir_Starmer's approval rating remains level on -6.
30% approve of the job he is doing (nc) 36% disapprove of the job he is doing (nc)
And yet Keir remains the most popular leader since Blair
You do know as soon as labour releases a manifesto they are going to plummet I assume....they are polling well till they actually say what they will do then people will go nah fuck off idiots
How you Johnson rampers think he gets a free ride over the economy baffles me.
I am not a johnson ramper...I despise the tories I just hate labour more
Similary, @Keir_Starmer's approval rating remains level on -6.
30% approve of the job he is doing (nc) 36% disapprove of the job he is doing (nc)
And yet Keir remains the most popular leader since Blair
You do know as soon as labour releases a manifesto they are going to plummet I assume....they are polling well till they actually say what they will do then people will go nah fuck off idiots
The manifesto will be pure vanilla. No idiocy to scare people.
Doesn't matter if it is....labour has no answers to the cost of living and everyone one knows they are total planks, they will take one look at the manifesto and go yeah no thanks. I want tories out of power....I despise them just labour is worse and lib dems are beyond condemnation.
For most people in this country now the election is do you want syphilis , gonorhea or herpes
"...everyone one knows they are total planks..." translates as:
"I, @Pagan2, think Labour are total planks and I'd love it if everyone else thought the same but I have no actual evidence of that."
Personally, I happen to think the Tory leadership are a bunch of lying, self-serving, fuckwits but I am sensible enough to realise that not everyone is as enlightened as me.
Similary, @Keir_Starmer's approval rating remains level on -6.
30% approve of the job he is doing (nc) 36% disapprove of the job he is doing (nc)
And yet Keir remains the most popular leader since Blair
You do know as soon as labour releases a manifesto they are going to plummet I assume....they are polling well till they actually say what they will do then people will go nah fuck off idiots
The manifesto will be pure vanilla. No idiocy to scare people.
Doesn't matter if it is....labour has no answers to the cost of living and everyone one knows they are total planks, they will take one look at the manifesto and go yeah no thanks. I want tories out of power....I despise them just labour is worse and lib dems are beyond condemnation.
For most people in this country now the election is do you want syphilis , gonorhea or herpes
Similary, @Keir_Starmer's approval rating remains level on -6.
30% approve of the job he is doing (nc) 36% disapprove of the job he is doing (nc)
And yet Keir remains the most popular leader since Blair
You do know as soon as labour releases a manifesto they are going to plummet I assume....they are polling well till they actually say what they will do then people will go nah fuck off idiots
The manifesto will be pure vanilla. No idiocy to scare people.
Doesn't matter if it is....labour has no answers to the cost of living and everyone one knows they are total planks, they will take one look at the manifesto and go yeah no thanks. I want tories out of power....I despise them just labour is worse and lib dems are beyond condemnation.
For most people in this country now the election is do you want syphilis , gonorhea or herpes
"...everyone one knows they are total planks..." translates as:
"I, @Pagan2, think Labour are total planks and I'd love it if everyone else thought the same but I have no actual evidence of that."
Personally, I happen to think the Tory leadership are a bunch of lying, self-serving, fuckwits but I am sensible enough to realise that not everyone is as enlightened as me.
A sentiment I agree with, I think the same of the labour and lib dem leadership and politicians too however I wish everyone was as enlightened as me and realised all our politicians are shit and best thing to do is not elect the fuckwits
Similary, @Keir_Starmer's approval rating remains level on -6.
30% approve of the job he is doing (nc) 36% disapprove of the job he is doing (nc)
And yet Keir remains the most popular leader since Blair
You do know as soon as labour releases a manifesto they are going to plummet I assume....they are polling well till they actually say what they will do then people will go nah fuck off idiots
The manifesto will be pure vanilla. No idiocy to scare people.
Doesn't matter if it is....labour has no answers to the cost of living and everyone one knows they are total planks, they will take one look at the manifesto and go yeah no thanks. I want tories out of power....I despise them just labour is worse and lib dems are beyond condemnation.
For most people in this country now the election is do you want syphilis , gonorhea or herpes
Time to start the Pagan Party?
I think our political system is crap yes. I did a header post about what I think needs to be reformed too.
Ah, so you want to be with the winners, which is why you're now a BoJo fan.
"Labour’s next leader must be Wes Streeting"
Please explain your workings.
Hes another David Miliband. Talked up because you've got to talk someone up. He will rock up with a banana at conference
maybe. I see what you are saying but I think is so much more controlled as a person that he wont. His media performances are top drawer, but there's something, I don't know what that says but to me...
Labour will vote for a lass next time.
Him being gay could be an issue for some.
I doubt it. Most of the country is past the point where this is likely to be a serious consideration. I suppose it might be off-putting to some religiously conservative demographic groups, but they are a relatively small minority and mainly concentrated in Labour safe seats.
Yes we are a much more tolerant country than even 20 years ago, but there are a fair few inner city seats with religious enclaves who are less keen on homosexuality. As you say, probably concentrated in safe seats anyway, but I do think it is a factor (among others). Personally think he is quite good, but there is the danger of projection on any face that is not yet that well known.
There are a few comfortable shire areas with less than enlightened views. This is where I don't get the Red Wall is socially conservative bit. If you're a lesbian couple who sign on, smoke dope and play house music all day, where are you less likely to be hassled and probably.arrested? Surrey or Wigan ?
Similary, @Keir_Starmer's approval rating remains level on -6.
30% approve of the job he is doing (nc) 36% disapprove of the job he is doing (nc)
And yet Keir remains the most popular leader since Blair
You do know as soon as labour releases a manifesto they are going to plummet I assume....they are polling well till they actually say what they will do then people will go nah fuck off idiots
The manifesto will be pure vanilla. No idiocy to scare people.
Doesn't matter if it is....labour has no answers to the cost of living and everyone one knows they are total planks, they will take one look at the manifesto and go yeah no thanks. I want tories out of power....I despise them just labour is worse and lib dems are beyond condemnation.
For most people in this country now the election is do you want syphilis , gonorhea or herpes
No one at all has any answers. It's all shades of brown.
Similary, @Keir_Starmer's approval rating remains level on -6.
30% approve of the job he is doing (nc) 36% disapprove of the job he is doing (nc)
And yet Keir remains the most popular leader since Blair
You do know as soon as labour releases a manifesto they are going to plummet I assume....they are polling well till they actually say what they will do then people will go nah fuck off idiots
The manifesto will be pure vanilla. No idiocy to scare people.
Doesn't matter if it is....labour has no answers to the cost of living and everyone one knows they are total planks, they will take one look at the manifesto and go yeah no thanks. I want tories out of power....I despise them just labour is worse and lib dems are beyond condemnation.
For most people in this country now the election is do you want syphilis , gonorhea or herpes
No one at all has any answers. It's all shades of brown.
precisely, and I think labours wheels come off the bus when they need to say what they will do. I don't think the tories have any answers either but when times are bad most will vote tory rather than labour unless its clear one party has an actual answer as they will believe rightly or wrongly that no matter how bad things are labour will make it worse.
Your laughable Johnny Owls. This methodology has swing back built in as you know.
Where are you now Boris abandoned socialism for dry Thatcherism 😆
SKS abandoned Socialism for Thatcherism first (the day after the leadership Election)
Reeves is more of a Thatcherite on the economy than Sunak will ever be.
SKS fans are laughable Mr Rabbit
Fuck me, you're in deep shit now...
No apologies Ms Rabbit
None needed. I love all the crazy personalities and wide spread opinions on PB 🙂. You are the only Corbynista posting so keep your point of view about what change of policy is needed up on here. Maybe Nick Palmer also prefers a more left wing Labour manifesto. I’m not saying the gist of your argument is wrong - Labour we’re in power 13 years with huge working majorities, but they left many things as they inherited them that havn’t worked great for the last four decades - under New Labour there was a cartel of energy firms and suppliers nakedly ripping everyone off and even David Cameron got it for example.
What was New Labours sop to the left apart from Ban on hunting with hounds?
Another angle to it though we often wonder why all the polls shift without apparent reason, and it’s the fortnight drag from weeks ago into the polls phenomenon - it sounds unnecessary but it’s true.
Similary, @Keir_Starmer's approval rating remains level on -6.
30% approve of the job he is doing (nc) 36% disapprove of the job he is doing (nc)
And yet Keir remains the most popular leader since Blair
You do know as soon as labour releases a manifesto they are going to plummet I assume....they are polling well till they actually say what they will do then people will go nah fuck off idiots
The manifesto will be pure vanilla. No idiocy to scare people.
Doesn't matter if it is....labour has no answers to the cost of living and everyone one knows they are total planks, they will take one look at the manifesto and go yeah no thanks. I want tories out of power....I despise them just labour is worse and lib dems are beyond condemnation.
For most people in this country now the election is do you want syphilis , gonorhea or herpes
No one at all has any answers. It's all shades of brown.
precisely, and I think labours wheels come off the bus when they need to say what they will do. I don't think the tories have any answers either but when times are bad most will vote tory rather than labour unless its clear one party has an actual answer as they will believe rightly or wrongly that no matter how bad things are labour will make it worse.
I think that is a wrong attitude. Nevertheless. I suspect your analysis may be right. Labour only wins when it is able to project a positive view of the future. Unfortunately, there isn't a conceivable one. So we'll get another lying, cynical Tory one.
From 3% last time you are referring to? And admitting the 34 and 33 Tory % in last two polls from this firm have swing back built in that possibly might never happen if Johnson is still there splitting the party?
Similary, @Keir_Starmer's approval rating remains level on -6.
30% approve of the job he is doing (nc) 36% disapprove of the job he is doing (nc)
And yet Keir remains the most popular leader since Blair
You do know as soon as labour releases a manifesto they are going to plummet I assume....they are polling well till they actually say what they will do then people will go nah fuck off idiots
The manifesto will be pure vanilla. No idiocy to scare people.
Doesn't matter if it is....labour has no answers to the cost of living and everyone one knows they are total planks, they will take one look at the manifesto and go yeah no thanks. I want tories out of power....I despise them just labour is worse and lib dems are beyond condemnation.
For most people in this country now the election is do you want syphilis , gonorhea or herpes
No one at all has any answers. It's all shades of brown.
precisely, and I think labours wheels come off the bus when they need to say what they will do. I don't think the tories have any answers either but when times are bad most will vote tory rather than labour unless its clear one party has an actual answer as they will believe rightly or wrongly that no matter how bad things are labour will make it worse.
I think that is a wrong attitude. Nevertheless. I suspect your analysis may be right. Labour only wins when it is able to project a positive view of the future. Unfortunately, there isn't a conceivable one. So we'll get another lying, cynical Tory one.
I don't actually have any attitude except our system of governance is not fit for the 21st century and the last people we should trust to govern us are the people who stand for election under our current system.
Similary, @Keir_Starmer's approval rating remains level on -6.
30% approve of the job he is doing (nc) 36% disapprove of the job he is doing (nc)
And yet Keir remains the most popular leader since Blair
You do know as soon as labour releases a manifesto they are going to plummet I assume....they are polling well till they actually say what they will do then people will go nah fuck off idiots
The manifesto will be pure vanilla. No idiocy to scare people.
Doesn't matter if it is....labour has no answers to the cost of living and everyone one knows they are total planks, they will take one look at the manifesto and go yeah no thanks. I want tories out of power....I despise them just labour is worse and lib dems are beyond condemnation.
For most people in this country now the election is do you want syphilis , gonorhea or herpes
No one at all has any answers. It's all shades of brown.
precisely, and I think labours wheels come off the bus when they need to say what they will do. I don't think the tories have any answers either but when times are bad most will vote tory rather than labour unless its clear one party has an actual answer as they will believe rightly or wrongly that no matter how bad things are labour will make it worse.
Similary, @Keir_Starmer's approval rating remains level on -6.
30% approve of the job he is doing (nc) 36% disapprove of the job he is doing (nc)
And yet Keir remains the most popular leader since Blair
You do know as soon as labour releases a manifesto they are going to plummet I assume....they are polling well till they actually say what they will do then people will go nah fuck off idiots
The manifesto will be pure vanilla. No idiocy to scare people.
Doesn't matter if it is....labour has no answers to the cost of living and everyone one knows they are total planks, they will take one look at the manifesto and go yeah no thanks. I want tories out of power....I despise them just labour is worse and lib dems are beyond condemnation.
For most people in this country now the election is do you want syphilis , gonorhea or herpes
No one at all has any answers. It's all shades of brown.
precisely, and I think labours wheels come off the bus when they need to say what they will do. I don't think the tories have any answers either but when times are bad most will vote tory rather than labour unless its clear one party has an actual answer as they will believe rightly or wrongly that no matter how bad things are labour will make it worse.
From 3% last time you are referring to? And admitting the 34 and 33 Tory % in last two polls from this firm have swing back built in that possibly might never happen if Johnson is still there splitting the party?
How more helpful and polite can I say this? 😆
What exactly have Opinium done to the headline figures?
Similary, @Keir_Starmer's approval rating remains level on -6.
30% approve of the job he is doing (nc) 36% disapprove of the job he is doing (nc)
And yet Keir remains the most popular leader since Blair
You do know as soon as labour releases a manifesto they are going to plummet I assume....they are polling well till they actually say what they will do then people will go nah fuck off idiots
The manifesto will be pure vanilla. No idiocy to scare people.
Doesn't matter if it is....labour has no answers to the cost of living and everyone one knows they are total planks, they will take one look at the manifesto and go yeah no thanks. I want tories out of power....I despise them just labour is worse and lib dems are beyond condemnation.
For most people in this country now the election is do you want syphilis , gonorhea or herpes
No one at all has any answers. It's all shades of brown.
precisely, and I think labours wheels come off the bus when they need to say what they will do. I don't think the tories have any answers either but when times are bad most will vote tory rather than labour unless its clear one party has an actual answer as they will believe rightly or wrongly that no matter how bad things are labour will make it worse.
I think that is a wrong attitude. Nevertheless. I suspect your analysis may be right. Labour only wins when it is able to project a positive view of the future. Unfortunately, there isn't a conceivable one. So we'll get another lying, cynical Tory one.
I don't actually have any attitude except our system of governance is not fit for the 21st century and the last people we should trust to govern us are the people who stand for election under our current system.
Apologies. I wasn't meaning your attitude. But the attitudes of voters you accurately described in your post. We are actually agreeing here. Except I think we'd be better with Labour. That's opinion. On the analysis we don't disagree at all.
Similary, @Keir_Starmer's approval rating remains level on -6.
30% approve of the job he is doing (nc) 36% disapprove of the job he is doing (nc)
And yet Keir remains the most popular leader since Blair
You do know as soon as labour releases a manifesto they are going to plummet I assume....they are polling well till they actually say what they will do then people will go nah fuck off idiots
The manifesto will be pure vanilla. No idiocy to scare people.
Doesn't matter if it is....labour has no answers to the cost of living and everyone one knows they are total planks, they will take one look at the manifesto and go yeah no thanks. I want tories out of power....I despise them just labour is worse and lib dems are beyond condemnation.
For most people in this country now the election is do you want syphilis , gonorhea or herpes
No one at all has any answers. It's all shades of brown.
precisely, and I think labours wheels come off the bus when they need to say what they will do. I don't think the tories have any answers either but when times are bad most will vote tory rather than labour unless its clear one party has an actual answer as they will believe rightly or wrongly that no matter how bad things are labour will make it worse.
From 3% last time you are referring to? And admitting the 34 and 33 Tory % in last two polls from this firm have swing back built in that possibly might never happen if Johnson is still there splitting the party?
How more helpful and polite can I say this? 😆
What exactly have Opinium done to the headline figures?
They've got new methodology. Like to see polling which hasn't. It may be wildly wrong, but at least it shows trends... Opinium has been returning 2-4 point leads since they changed. Therefore, today's poll is an MoE movement only.
From 3% last time you are referring to? And admitting the 34 and 33 Tory % in last two polls from this firm have swing back built in that possibly might never happen if Johnson is still there splitting the party?
How more helpful and polite can I say this? 😆
What exactly have Opinium done to the headline figures?
We want to know how people would vote if there was a general election tomorrow not how opinion polling companies think they will vote when the opinion polling companies think the next election will be. We may if we wish expect a swingback from mid-term unpopularity as the next election approaches, but if we choose to do that we will be double counting.
Similary, @Keir_Starmer's approval rating remains level on -6.
30% approve of the job he is doing (nc) 36% disapprove of the job he is doing (nc)
And yet Keir remains the most popular leader since Blair
You do know as soon as labour releases a manifesto they are going to plummet I assume....they are polling well till they actually say what they will do then people will go nah fuck off idiots
The manifesto will be pure vanilla. No idiocy to scare people.
Doesn't matter if it is....labour has no answers to the cost of living and everyone one knows they are total planks, they will take one look at the manifesto and go yeah no thanks. I want tories out of power....I despise them just labour is worse and lib dems are beyond condemnation.
For most people in this country now the election is do you want syphilis , gonorhea or herpes
No one at all has any answers. It's all shades of brown.
precisely, and I think labours wheels come off the bus when they need to say what they will do. I don't think the tories have any answers either but when times are bad most will vote tory rather than labour unless its clear one party has an actual answer as they will believe rightly or wrongly that no matter how bad things are labour will make it worse.
Similary, @Keir_Starmer's approval rating remains level on -6.
30% approve of the job he is doing (nc) 36% disapprove of the job he is doing (nc)
And yet Keir remains the most popular leader since Blair
You do know as soon as labour releases a manifesto they are going to plummet I assume....they are polling well till they actually say what they will do then people will go nah fuck off idiots
The manifesto will be pure vanilla. No idiocy to scare people.
Doesn't matter if it is....labour has no answers to the cost of living and everyone one knows they are total planks, they will take one look at the manifesto and go yeah no thanks. I want tories out of power....I despise them just labour is worse and lib dems are beyond condemnation.
For most people in this country now the election is do you want syphilis , gonorhea or herpes
No one at all has any answers. It's all shades of brown.
precisely, and I think labours wheels come off the bus when they need to say what they will do. I don't think the tories have any answers either but when times are bad most will vote tory rather than labour unless its clear one party has an actual answer as they will believe rightly or wrongly that no matter how bad things are labour will make it worse.
Sorry cant be arsed to look something to say then say it
I'm saying your run-on sentence was horrific.
Only because you don't want tories again. However I think its going to prove accurate
No, it was just excessively ugly writing. I didn't get as far as parsing any meaning at all out of it. Following it was like doing a wordsearch in a tumble dryer. It was like someone had vomited alphabet spaghetti onto an Enigma machine.
From 3% last time you are referring to? And admitting the 34 and 33 Tory % in last two polls from this firm have swing back built in that possibly might never happen if Johnson is still there splitting the party?
How more helpful and polite can I say this? 😆
What exactly have Opinium done to the headline figures?
They've got new methodology.
They call it building in swingback. They get the raw figures sort of in line with the 6 7 8’s everyone else reporting, and work under the bonnet on idea governments “always” get a certain swing back once elections are announced and campaigns underway, this firm reckon they can say know how much and adjust it into the figures their survey actually returned. I think the mainstream media are more grown up about this these days so you won’t see any silly “labour lead slashed to two” headlines from them like some posts here this evening.
I love this poll, and the fact it’s two a month, because it’s always so predictable for the better and smarter poll analysts (like I was spot on tonight) so I really feel if the headline figures for each party show a consistent shift in this one we can believe it’s going on.
Similary, @Keir_Starmer's approval rating remains level on -6.
30% approve of the job he is doing (nc) 36% disapprove of the job he is doing (nc)
And yet Keir remains the most popular leader since Blair
You do know as soon as labour releases a manifesto they are going to plummet I assume....they are polling well till they actually say what they will do then people will go nah fuck off idiots
The manifesto will be pure vanilla. No idiocy to scare people.
Doesn't matter if it is....labour has no answers to the cost of living and everyone one knows they are total planks, they will take one look at the manifesto and go yeah no thanks. I want tories out of power....I despise them just labour is worse and lib dems are beyond condemnation.
For most people in this country now the election is do you want syphilis , gonorhea or herpes
No one at all has any answers. It's all shades of brown.
precisely, and I think labours wheels come off the bus when they need to say what they will do. I don't think the tories have any answers either but when times are bad most will vote tory rather than labour unless its clear one party has an actual answer as they will believe rightly or wrongly that no matter how bad things are labour will make it worse.
Sorry cant be arsed to look something to say then say it
I'm saying your run-on sentence was horrific.
Only because you don't want tories again. However I think its going to prove accurate
Which would be a nightmare. 5 more years of breaking the law, adjusting the voting system and openly funnelling huge quantities of cash to their mates. And their wives and children. Whilst openly laughing at everyone else for their stupidity at playing by the rules. Boring leader and trans people, mind. That Boris is a laugh.
From 3% last time you are referring to? And admitting the 34 and 33 Tory % in last two polls from this firm have swing back built in that possibly might never happen if Johnson is still there splitting the party?
How more helpful and polite can I say this? 😆
What exactly have Opinium done to the headline figures?
We want to know how people would vote if there was a general election tomorrow not how opinion polling companies think they will vote when the opinion polling companies think the next election will be. We may if we wish expect a swingback from mid-term unpopularity as the next election approaches, but if we choose to do that we will be double counting.
From 3% last time you are referring to? And admitting the 34 and 33 Tory % in last two polls from this firm have swing back built in that possibly might never happen if Johnson is still there splitting the party?
How more helpful and polite can I say this? 😆
What exactly have Opinium done to the headline figures?
They've got new methodology.
They call it building in swingback. They get the raw figures sort of in line with the 6 7 8’s everyone else reporting, and work under the bonnet on idea governments “always” get a certain swing back once elections are announced and campaigns underway, this firm reckon they can say know how much and adjust it into the figures their survey actually returned. I think the mainstream media are more grown up about this these days so you won’t see any silly “labour lead slashed to two” headlines from them like some posts here this evening.
I love this poll, and the fact it’s two a month, because it’s always so predictable for the better and smarter poll analysts (like I was spot on tonight) so I really feel if the headline figures for each party show a consistent shift in this one we can believe it’s going on.
Yes. In that sense it is showing no change. The stability of the polling is actually the great mystery right now.
Heh. I've only ever been in the one facing Nicolson Street, with the green signs. Is that the one you're supposed to go to? I've forgotten what the controversy was.
From 3% last time you are referring to? And admitting the 34 and 33 Tory % in last two polls from this firm have swing back built in that possibly might never happen if Johnson is still there splitting the party?
How more helpful and polite can I say this? 😆
What exactly have Opinium done to the headline figures?
They've got new methodology.
They call it building in swingback. They get the raw figures sort of in line with the 6 7 8’s everyone else reporting, and work under the bonnet on idea governments “always” get a certain swing back once elections are announced and campaigns underway, this firm reckon they can say know how much and adjust it into the figures their survey actually returned. I think the mainstream media are more grown up about this these days so you won’t see any silly “labour lead slashed to two” headlines from them like some posts here this evening.
I love this poll, and the fact it’s two a month, because it’s always so predictable for the better and smarter poll analysts (like I was spot on tonight) so I really feel if the headline figures for each party show a consistent shift in this one we can believe it’s going on.
How damaging to the Tories is this coming announcement on Farming, Food and Environment?
With a bit of skin in this game I think it’s a bit dangerous for Tories not to follow through on Brexit promises on farming and food production and fishing etc - there’s lots of constituency’s that could change hands if the policy is as much a dogs dinner as now being reported, much more than they think.
How damaging to the Tories is this coming announcement on Farming, Food and Environment?
With a bit of skin in this game I think it’s a bit dangerous for Tories not to follow through on Brexit promises on farming and food production and fishing etc - there’s lots of constituency’s that could change hands if the policy is as much a dogs dinner as now being reported, much more than they think.
It's beyond embarrassing now. Every day another announcement plucked out of thin air or from the wastebasket of stupid ideas rejected for the next manifesto. Anything. Literally anything to give the press something to print.
One bonkers idea after another.
No direction. No vision. No purpose. No point.
The albatross continues to rot around the party's neck.
Heh. I've only ever been in the one facing Nicolson Street, with the green signs. Is that the one you're supposed to go to? I've forgotten what the controversy was.
I've (almost) always gone to the one at the mosque as it is tastier.
I was told it was a family feud but i have no idea the details or if it is true.
I know very little about the modern Church, but its internal politics have historically been titanically vicious over the centuries, with a great many popes very unpopular with the bureaucracy, but this piece full of accusations of the current pope's alleged cruelty, bullying and vindictiveness (of his church opponents) is certainly not something I had stumbled across before.
Similary, @Keir_Starmer's approval rating remains level on -6.
30% approve of the job he is doing (nc) 36% disapprove of the job he is doing (nc)
And yet Keir remains the most popular leader since Blair
You do know as soon as labour releases a manifesto they are going to plummet I assume....they are polling well till they actually say what they will do then people will go nah fuck off idiots
The manifesto will be pure vanilla. No idiocy to scare people.
Historically a successful choice I believe.
Sure it can mean little of idea from anyone, including the new government, about what it will do, but plans often go awry anyway, and that's a problem for another day.
The problem with Heather Wheeler's comments is that the main town in her constituency is Swadlincote in Derbyshire which isn't exactly known for its beauty.
OMFG this is the Daily Mail triple page splash to end all triple page splashes
Remember Putin’s Rasputin, Alexander Dugin? The mystical Russian nationalist guy who yearns for Russian supremacy and asked for Brexit and advised Putin to invade Ukraine et al
Turns out he is a sworn devotee of devil worshipping Aleister Crowley
“A deeper dive into the writings of “Putin’s Rasputin,” Aleksandr Dugin, reveals that his Neo-Eurasian worldview is influenced by chaos magick, which grew out of the teachings of 20th century occultist Aleister Crowley.”
From 3% last time you are referring to? And admitting the 34 and 33 Tory % in last two polls from this firm have swing back built in that possibly might never happen if Johnson is still there splitting the party?
How more helpful and polite can I say this? 😆
What exactly have Opinium done to the headline figures?
They've got new methodology.
They call it building in swingback. They get the raw figures sort of in line with the 6 7 8’s everyone else reporting, and work under the bonnet on idea governments “always” get a certain swing back once elections are announced and campaigns underway, this firm reckon they can say know how much and adjust it into the figures their survey actually returned. I think the mainstream media are more grown up about this these days so you won’t see any silly “labour lead slashed to two” headlines from them like some posts here this evening.
I love this poll, and the fact it’s two a month, because it’s always so predictable for the better and smarter poll analysts (like I was spot on tonight) so I really feel if the headline figures for each party show a consistent shift in this one we can believe it’s going on.
I call it luck!
It’s actually easy Sunhil. The gaps never been more than 4, labour never more than 38, Tories never lower than the 33 last time that was 33 playing 36, and post vonc polls from other firms, though not many, have been static (let’s see what happens after two weeks) It was easy, and why this poll will be the one to quickly reveal the % for each party is on the move.
I’ll show you how easy it is by telling you the result of the next Opinium poll right here right now. Labour 37/38, Tories 34/33. And I’ll explain why. The post vonc narrative now building and will dominate next few weeks of a governing party split and at war, with awful impact on policies, will feed into that next poll, but it will be surprising if it shifts this methodology more than into gap of 3 or 4.
Comments
'The Italian poet and war veteran D’Annunzio might have come closest to the Thelemite ideal with his short-lived Free City of Fiume, a regime governed by the arts that attracted numerous rebels, from anarchists and syndicalists to nationalists.[30] Crowley does not mention D’Annunzio in his autobiography, even though Crowley was in Italy in 1920, and D’Annunzio’s enterprise ended in December of that year.[31]'
https://counter-currents.com/2010/09/aleister-crowley-as-political-theorist-part-2/
Labour will vote for a lass next time.
That, however, was exceptional. They can't get away with borrowing and printing forever; QE is being fingered by some economists as part of the reason for the inflationary spike as it is.
If Government can't pull those levers any more, or in any event can only use them to plug a proportion of the holes in its finances, then the only other options left to balance the books are austerity or tax rises. And I can see the next election being a competition between Labour tax rises and Tory austerity, and then it will depend on who can sell their policies the better. I think it likely that Labour will play the fairness card, with taxation being targeted at the earnings and assets of the comfortably off; the Tories will contend that more money isn't needed in the first place and that Labour is being profligate.
The result of the first Corbyn manifesto in 2017 suggests that Labour can, in theory, still get the vote out if it is sufficiently motivated. In practice, I'm concerned that traditional age-turnout profiles may assert themselves and the Tories will do better than most people are expecting, even if the current leader remains in charge (my husband thinks that the outcome of the next GE will more closely resemble 1992 than 1997.) But, in truth, who knows?
The Women Against State Pension Injustice (Waspi) campaign group has been recruiting senior political figures to support their campaign. They have now won public pledges of support from leaders across the political spectrum, with the exception of Prime Minister Boris Johnson.
https://www.express.co.uk/finance/personalfinance/1623697/Waspi-women-state-pension-age-compensation-1950s-Women-Against-State-Pension-Injustice
Yes, girl next for them though
Well. I love a man willing to make a prediction. Personally, I reckon the likeliest outcome is that he'll get somewhere around 250 seats; but given the LDs could well be back in the 20s, and the SNP will be close to sweeping the board in Scotland, that will probably be enough to deny the Conservatives a majority.
Shall we make 235 the bet line? £1/seat?
"One Tory source: “Rebellion already bewing. The govt is lying to its own MPs & the media about the illegal focus of this bill. The Tory party is sleepwalking into a repeat of the Owen Paterson vote & Partygate – yet again positioning the party full square in support of law-breaking over rule of law.” 4/7
https://twitter.com/michaelsavage/status/1535667675795431424
Which is still complete dominance of course
If it wasn't broken, don't fix it.
Thanks, I check it out.
Of course, in the middle of an inflationary spike when household budgets are already under pressure, the last thing a lot of folk want to be told is that meat and dairy generally should be used more sparingly, and that products like roasting chickens as well as beef steaks ought to be regarded as luxuries. Everybody likes cheap stuff and nobody wants to hear bad news.
@Keir_Starmer
as “weak” “a barrier to voting Labour” and “a slippery slime ball”.
The truth is, Labour needs a new Leader.
Take away the pressure and you remove the need for industrial farming of the kind which is destroying ecosystems and lowering quality. Better quality meat reared more kindly to both the animals and the environment and sold for more profit will be the result of more plant-based food.
Amazingly, considering what he went through, Bok has a good sense of humor. I got a kick out of his descriptions of his encounters with snow in North Dakota, and trying to find ready-to-wear clothes. (There aren't many American men who are six feet, six inches tall -- and weigh 150 pounds.)
Its just Labour ones You will NEVER EVER see again
Dyslexia is a terrible thing!
And have found it fascinating. (Not being a historian, I can't vouch for the accuracy of every detail, but I haven't seen anything suspicious in it.)
Example: "International slave trade made a felony in Act Prohibiting Importation of Slaves; this act takes effect on 1 January 1808, the earliest date permitted under the Constitution."
"Abolition of the Slave Trade Act abolishes slave trading throughout the British Empire. Captains fined £120 per slave transported. Patrols sent to the African coast to arrest slaving vessels."
(Britain and the United States decided on these bans, independently, within a few weeks of each other.)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_Alaska's_at-large_congressional_district_special_election
And here is timeline as per this link
https://elections.alaska.gov/specialelections.php
April 1 by 5pm - Candidate Filing Deadline
April 4 by 12pm - Candidate Withdrawal Deadline
April 27 - Ballots Mailed to Voters
May 12 - Voter Registration Deadline
May 27 - Early & Absentee In-Person Voting Begins
May 27 - Voters may apply to request a ballot be delivered electronically
May 27 - Absentee Review Board Begins
June 11 - Requests for electronic ballot delivery must be received by 5pm
June 11 - Election Day
June 11 - Ballots must either be postmarked by this day or physically received by DOE
June 11 - First ballot count
June 15 - Second ballot count
June 17 - Third ballot count
June 21 - Deadline to Receive Absentee Ballots
June 21 - Final ballot count
June 23 - State Review Board begins
June 25 - Target certification date
June 26 by 12:00pm - Candidate withdrawal deadline for the Special General Election [August 16, same day as regular Alaska primary]
Ballots issued and returned as of Friday night, June 10
Issued = 507,997 (all active registered voters)
Received = 125,751 (24.8%)
> lot of returns today PLUS returns with valid postmarks after today, will be interesting to see just how much there is there AND how much gets counted for tonight's initial, unofficial results.
Would be funny to see someone post with two weeks to go “we are only 5 behind on last Opiniom so still in with a chance”
I agree this 2% adjusted is the 6/7% unadjusted from others. But what if there isn’t any swingback during next election? It looks like Tories will find it hard getting behind Johnson and foot solider for him, so maybe 4 or 5 lead is happy days for Labour. If you offer Labour a 4 or 5% election win tonight and Libdems doubling their MPs, surely both parties would snap your hand off? It would put them in power.
Would be interesting to see if greens poll 7 or 8 on election night, we are presuming not so will the labour lead grow at Green expense as we enter the last weeks and months to polling?
For most people in this country now the election is do you want syphilis , gonorhea or herpes
"I, @Pagan2, think Labour are total planks and I'd love it if everyone else thought the same but I have no actual evidence of that."
Personally, I happen to think the Tory leadership are a bunch of lying, self-serving, fuckwits but I am sensible enough to realise that not everyone is as enlightened as me.
Still yet another PB thread predicting his demise
https://twitter.com/OpiniumResearch/status/1535698379703037952?s=20&t=g5Q5K-mgRBs0Yp4BeQrdKQ
https://www.politico.com/news/2022/06/11/pence-trump-jan-6-lawyer-memo-00038996
Still now you are here i can retire to bed safely in knowledge my viewpoint will be represented
If you're a lesbian couple who sign on, smoke dope and play house music all day, where are you less likely to be hassled and probably.arrested?
Surrey or Wigan ?
Side by side on my piano keyboard, oh Lord, why don't we?
https://www.itv.com/news/update/2012-10-19/energy-secretary-silent-on-cameron-energy-remark/
What was New Labours sop to the left apart from Ban on hunting with hounds?
Another angle to it though we often wonder why all the polls shift without apparent reason, and it’s the fortnight drag from weeks ago into the polls phenomenon - it sounds unnecessary but it’s true.
Nevertheless. I suspect your analysis may be right.
Labour only wins when it is able to project a positive view of the future. Unfortunately, there isn't a conceivable one. So we'll get another lying, cynical Tory one.
How more helpful and polite can I say this? 😆
TEAM BLACK IS BACK!
#winning
Like to see polling which hasn't. It may be wildly wrong, but at least it shows trends...
Opinium has been returning 2-4 point leads since they changed. Therefore, today's poll is an MoE movement only.
https://twitter.com/RichieJBrown/status/1535568935155793924
I love this poll, and the fact it’s two a month, because it’s always so predictable for the better and smarter poll analysts (like I was spot on tonight) so I really feel if the headline figures for each party show a consistent shift in this one we can believe it’s going on.
Whilst openly laughing at everyone else for their stupidity at playing by the rules.
Boring leader and trans people, mind. That Boris is a laugh.
Is Hull a Red Wall seat?
In that sense it is showing no change.
The stability of the polling is actually the great mystery right now.
With a bit of skin in this game I think it’s a bit dangerous for Tories not to follow through on Brexit promises on farming and food production and fishing etc - there’s lots of constituency’s that could change hands if the policy is as much a dogs dinner as now being reported, much more than they think.
Sign of the end times.
One bonkers idea after another.
No direction. No vision. No purpose. No point.
The albatross continues to rot around the party's neck.
I was told it was a family feud but i have no idea the details or if it is true.
https://unherd.com/2022/06/is-this-the-end-of-pope-francis/
Sure it can mean little of idea from anyone, including the new government, about what it will do, but plans often go awry anyway, and that's a problem for another day.
I was very satisfied with the adaptation. I've probably read the book more than any other I own.
I’ll show you how easy it is by telling you the result of the next Opinium poll right here right now. Labour 37/38, Tories 34/33. And I’ll explain why. The post vonc narrative now building and will dominate next few weeks of a governing party split and at war, with awful impact on policies, will feed into that next poll, but it will be surprising if it shifts this methodology more than into gap of 3 or 4.
By all means keep this.