Howdy, Stranger!

It looks like you're new here. Sign in or register to get started.

The Johnson survival market is getting predictable – politicalbetting.com

SystemSystem Posts: 12,162
edited June 2022 in General
imageThe Johnson survival market is getting predictable – politicalbetting.com

The first article I ever wrote for this site was about recency bias: The habit of people to focus on the last bit of information they got on a topic and overstate its importance. As with many biases, it crops up again and again and the Johnson survival market right now is a classic example.

Read the full story here

«1345

Comments

  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,631
    First?
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,631
    Fuck France, fuck UEFA, and fuck the gendarmerie, the latter must be the first French people spoiling for a fight.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 81,991

    Fuck France, fuck UEFA, and fuck the gendarmerie, the latter must be the first French people spoiling for a fight.

    Pleasant weekend in the city of love?
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 81,991
    Leon said:

    I am now watching Bald and Bankrupt on my balcony in Tbilisi. Thanks to @Dura_Ace and @FrancisUrquhart

    It’s good. Needs a bit of narrative arc but he really does it. Hats off



    But I can’t find the one where he actually GOES to Abkhazia. Can anyone help?

    https://youtu.be/yjF4jiOOdPY
  • MattWMattW Posts: 23,149
    edited May 2022
    Fifth, and cut off by the thread.
    MattW said:

    OT

    I don't think this has been mentioned yet on PB but I have to say I am rather disturbed by the fact that the BBC have reversed the hiring of a stand in radio presenter simply on the grounds he is left wing and anti-Boris Johnson.

    Are we to see a situation where, every time there is a change of Government, the whole of the BBC presenting establishment has to be fired and rehired based on their political persuasion? Or do we want our presenters only to be drawn from the ranks of those who are so disengaged from life that they hold no political views at all?

    I suspect I disagree with pretty much everyone of Mr Stadlen's political positions - though to be fair I have never actually heard of him before now - but unless he abuses his position as a presenter then he should not be barred from a job simply because he is critical of the Government.

    Not sure. If this is correct (published by Guido, but it was wrong the BBC would have pushed back) he was continuing being nakedly partisan up until mere days ago. Is that tenable for a BBC presenter on a rolling News (Radio 5) channel? I'd say they may have violated their own standard.

    More like a recruiting process off the rails, perhaps? Or a horribly poor sense of judgement on Standen's part.

    One could understand if it was 5 years ago, but whilst he has been after the job?



  • malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 43,319
    3rd, or fourth if Matt could count
  • londonpubmanlondonpubman Posts: 3,639
    Top 20 👍
  • MoonRabbitMoonRabbit Posts: 13,500

    Fuck France, fuck UEFA, and fuck the gendarmerie, the latter must be the first French people spoiling for a fight.

    How was the experience for you?
  • RobDRobD Posts: 59,928

    Fuck France, fuck UEFA, and fuck the gendarmerie, the latter must be the first French people spoiling for a fight.

    Pleasant weekend in the city of love?
    I was in Paris, not Rome.

    Absolute grim as hell, and I was one of the lucky ones.

    I collected my tickets from the sponsors/UEFA point area at the ground.

    At 5.30pm I was one of the early ones, and got told my ticket was fake, despite UEFA being the ones issuing.

    I mean they didn't even scan it, just decided it was fake.

    Fortunately I expressed my displeasure in French and also pointed out scanning it might help or did they want me to get some UEFA delegates over?

    So don't believe the UEFA bullshit that it was down to ticketless fans.

    Even the Mail and Telegraph journos ended up getting tear gassed said it was horrific.

    Sticking half a dozen police vans in the way also helped cause a bit of a bottleneck.
    I think they've been reading your posts on here. ;)
  • I've just seen Top Gun.

    An absolute blast, just fantastic.
  • ApplicantApplicant Posts: 3,379

    Fuck France, fuck UEFA, and fuck the gendarmerie, the latter must be the first French people spoiling for a fight.

    Pleasant weekend in the city of love?
    I was in Paris, not Rome.

    Absolute grim as hell, and I was one of the lucky ones.

    I collected my tickets from the sponsors/UEFA point area at the ground.

    At 5.30pm I was one of the early ones, and got told my ticket was fake, despite UEFA being the ones issuing.

    I mean they didn't even scan it, just decided it was fake.

    Fortunately I expressed my displeasure in French and also pointed out scanning it might help or did they want me to get some UEFA delegates over?

    So don't believe the UEFA bullshit that it was down to ticketless fans.

    Even the Mail and Telegraph journos ended up getting tear gassed said it was horrific.

    Sticking half a dozen police vans in the way also helped cause a bit of a bottleneck.
    So the police and stadium authorities targeted only Liverpool fans without provocation?
  • MattWMattW Posts: 23,149
    edited May 2022
    malcolmg said:

    3rd, or fourth if Matt could count

    :smile:

    (I'm counting comments, not people.)
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,661

    I've just seen Top Gun.

    An absolute blast, just fantastic.

    IMAX tomorrow for me
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,631
    Applicant said:

    Fuck France, fuck UEFA, and fuck the gendarmerie, the latter must be the first French people spoiling for a fight.

    Pleasant weekend in the city of love?
    I was in Paris, not Rome.

    Absolute grim as hell, and I was one of the lucky ones.

    I collected my tickets from the sponsors/UEFA point area at the ground.

    At 5.30pm I was one of the early ones, and got told my ticket was fake, despite UEFA being the ones issuing.

    I mean they didn't even scan it, just decided it was fake.

    Fortunately I expressed my displeasure in French and also pointed out scanning it might help or did they want me to get some UEFA delegates over?

    So don't believe the UEFA bullshit that it was down to ticketless fans.

    Even the Mail and Telegraph journos ended up getting tear gassed said it was horrific.

    Sticking half a dozen police vans in the way also helped cause a bit of a bottleneck.
    So the police and stadium authorities targeted only Liverpool fans without provocation?
    From what I saw, very much so.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,631

    I've just seen Top Gun.

    An absolute blast, just fantastic.

    I saw it on Wednesday and loved it, ending might have been a smidge silly but I don't care.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,631

    I've just seen Top Gun.

    An absolute blast, just fantastic.

    IMAX tomorrow for me
    Enjoy.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 51,821

    First?

    Real = Labour
    Liverpool = Tories

    :lol:
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,631

    First?

    Real = Labour
    Liverpool = Tories

    :lol:
    I thought you were a republican?
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 51,821

    Fuck France, fuck UEFA, and fuck the gendarmerie, the latter must be the first French people spoiling for a fight.

    Pleasant weekend in the city of love?
    I was in Paris, not Rome.

    Absolute grim as hell, and I was one of the lucky ones.

    I collected my tickets from the sponsors/UEFA point area at the ground.

    At 5.30pm I was one of the early ones, and got told my ticket was fake, despite UEFA being the ones issuing.

    I mean they didn't even scan it, just decided it was fake.

    Fortunately I expressed my displeasure in French and also pointed out scanning it might help or did they want me to get some UEFA delegates over?

    So don't believe the UEFA bullshit that it was down to ticketless fans.

    Even the Mail and Telegraph journos ended up getting tear gassed said it was horrific.

    Sticking half a dozen police vans in the way also helped cause a bit of a bottleneck.
    So they actually let you inside? At least you saw the match.
  • TazTaz Posts: 14,385

    I've just seen Top Gun.

    An absolute blast, just fantastic.

    The new one ?
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 51,821

    First?

    Real = Labour
    Liverpool = Tories

    :lol:
    I thought you were a republican?
    OK, how about this?

    Man City = Labour
    Liverpool = Tories
  • MoonRabbitMoonRabbit Posts: 13,500

    I am proved right. PartyGate is beginning to get real traction on the news now,

    “Angela Rayner, Labour’s deputy leader, said the text messages had been suppressed and that the public “deserve the truth about why the holding of a lockdown party in the prime minister’s flat on his own birthday has not been made public until now”.

    She added the revelation “raises new questions about potential misconduct in public office, which must now be subject to proper and genuinely independent scrutiny” and that “this looks like yet another cover-up”.

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/may/29/partygate-sue-gray-knew-carrie-johnson-texts-birthday-party-whitehall

    On topic, it remains to be seen Boris loses both by elections, I’m confident my con hold in Tivi is still a winner.

    But if he loses both the impact varies on backdrop - backdrop of negative Boris Partygate in news and still losing MPs the gust may be the same, the teetering on edge may be different.

    My opinion is Boris is in more trouble now than January going into February on the basis there was a chance back then this story could blow over and away, no longer hollowing Tory’s out - it’s obvious now it’s not going away, Boris chances of recovery small now than the don’t know back in January. Also, Big G talks about fatigue, how about the other way fatigue works such as MPs tired of defending the indefensible the only way out is to act, Or Boris 80 seat majority built on voter Brexit fatigue makes “get Brexit done” into “get Boris done” as only way to make it go away! 🙂

    Also, whilst a war came along, and Boris had wait and see report to conclude to bat awkward question away, what’s coming now to save him from scrutiny in this period? Also it may not seem like the numbers are there to win vonc as it inches to 54 letters, but once it’s come off fence and make your mind up time it’s a whole different ball game of danger for Boris and his team.

    So yes, vonked in June has to be a tempting bet.
  • 'People love Boris Johnson. They want to see him, they want to touch him, they want to have their kids photographed with him. Keir Starmer hasn't got a tenth of his charisma.'

    Andrew Pierce discusses the Prime Minister's popularity.

    Are some people here on the same stuff as this guy?

    https://twitter.com/GBNEWS/status/1530943752029757443
  • LeonLeon Posts: 55,277

    Fuck France, fuck UEFA, and fuck the gendarmerie, the latter must be the first French people spoiling for a fight.

    Sympathies

    I confess my first reaction was not especially warm to the hymn-booers, but the more I see the more I think: Hmm.

    Eg there are now multiple videos of locals in Paris trying to storm their way in. With police looking totally pathetic and ineffectual. Easier to be mean to Liverpool fans, I suspect, than kick off a riot in St Denis. ditto the robbing of fans by the same locals

    What a mess

    Still, I’m glad Real won. Stop booing the Queen, the anthem, and - most of all - stop booing profound and beautiful hymns, and Britain might like you again
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 63,034


    I am proved right. PartyGate is beginning to get real traction on the news now,

    “Angela Rayner, Labour’s deputy leader, said the text messages had been suppressed and that the public “deserve the truth about why the holding of a lockdown party in the prime minister’s flat on his own birthday has not been made public until now”.

    She added the revelation “raises new questions about potential misconduct in public office, which must now be subject to proper and genuinely independent scrutiny” and that “this looks like yet another cover-up”.

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/may/29/partygate-sue-gray-knew-carrie-johnson-texts-birthday-party-whitehall

    On topic, it remains to be seen Boris loses both by elections, I’m confident my con hold in Tivi is still a winner.

    But if he loses both the impact varies on backdrop - backdrop of negative Boris Partygate in news and still losing MPs the gust may be the same, the teetering on edge may be different.

    My opinion is Boris is in more trouble now than January going into February on the basis there was a chance back then this story could blow over and away, no longer hollowing Tory’s out - it’s obvious now it’s not going away, Boris chances of recovery small now than the don’t know back in January. Also, Big G talks about fatigue, how about the other way fatigue works such as MPs tired of defending the indefensible the only way out is to act, Or Boris 80 seat majority built on voter Brexit fatigue makes “get Brexit done” into “get Boris done” as only way to make it go away! 🙂

    Also, whilst a war came along, and Boris had wait and see report to conclude to bat awkward question away, what’s coming now to save him from scrutiny in this period? Also it may not seem like the numbers are there to win vonc as it inches to 54 letters, but once it’s come off fence and make your mind up time it’s a whole different ball game of danger for Boris and his team.

    So yes, vonked in June has to be a tempting bet.

    I agree
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,661

    First?

    Real = Labour
    Liverpool = Tories

    :lol:
    I thought you were a republican?
    OK, how about this?

    Man City = Labour
    Liverpool = Tories
    Tories win more Trophies than Labour then!
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,661

    'People love Boris Johnson. They want to see him, they want to touch him, they want to have their kids photographed with him. Keir Starmer hasn't got a tenth of his charisma.'

    Andrew Pierce discusses the Prime Minister's popularity.

    Are some people here on the same stuff as this guy?

    https://twitter.com/GBNEWS/status/1530943752029757443

    Doesnt mean they vote for Boris twice


    See Corbyn for info
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 61,788
    F1: mildly annoyed at myself for not betting on Perez for the win. Think he was around 15.

    I did have a tiny bet on Sainz, hedged, to win, which ended up green.
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 63,034
    Nottingham Forest into the Premier league
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 52,561
    COME ON YOU REDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 42,134

    Fuck France, fuck UEFA, and fuck the gendarmerie, the latter must be the first French people spoiling for a fight.

    Pleasant weekend in the city of love?
    I was in Paris, not Rome.

    Absolute grim as hell, and I was one of the lucky ones.

    I collected my tickets from the sponsors/UEFA point area at the ground.

    At 5.30pm I was one of the early ones, and got told my ticket was fake, despite UEFA being the ones issuing.

    I mean they didn't even scan it, just decided it was fake.

    Fortunately I expressed my displeasure in French and also pointed out scanning it might help or did they want me to get some UEFA delegates over?

    So don't believe the UEFA bullshit that it was down to ticketless fans.

    Even the Mail and Telegraph journos ended up getting tear gassed said it was horrific.

    Sticking half a dozen police vans in the way also helped cause a bit of a bottleneck.
    Yes, from what I hear the treatment of the fans was a disgrace.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 51,821
    Nottingham Forest win the Play-off final and promotion to the EPL.
  • JonWCJonWC Posts: 288

    Fuck France, fuck UEFA, and fuck the gendarmerie, the latter must be the first French people spoiling for a fight.

    Pleasant weekend in the city of love?
    I was in Paris, not Rome.

    Absolute grim as hell, and I was one of the lucky ones.

    I collected my tickets from the sponsors/UEFA point area at the ground.

    At 5.30pm I was one of the early ones, and got told my ticket was fake, despite UEFA being the ones issuing.

    I mean they didn't even scan it, just decided it was fake.

    Fortunately I expressed my displeasure in French and also pointed out scanning it might help or did they want me to get some UEFA delegates over?

    So don't believe the UEFA bullshit that it was down to ticketless fans.

    Even the Mail and Telegraph journos ended up getting tear gassed said it was horrific.

    Sticking half a dozen police vans in the way also helped cause a bit of a bottleneck.
    Sounds a lot like what happened in Rome in 1997.
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 26,175
    Applicant said:

    Fuck France, fuck UEFA, and fuck the gendarmerie, the latter must be the first French people spoiling for a fight.

    Pleasant weekend in the city of love?
    I was in Paris, not Rome.

    Absolute grim as hell, and I was one of the lucky ones.

    I collected my tickets from the sponsors/UEFA point area at the ground.

    At 5.30pm I was one of the early ones, and got told my ticket was fake, despite UEFA being the ones issuing.

    I mean they didn't even scan it, just decided it was fake.

    Fortunately I expressed my displeasure in French and also pointed out scanning it might help or did they want me to get some UEFA delegates over?

    So don't believe the UEFA bullshit that it was down to ticketless fans.

    Even the Mail and Telegraph journos ended up getting tear gassed said it was horrific.

    Sticking half a dozen police vans in the way also helped cause a bit of a bottleneck.
    So the police and stadium authorities targeted only Liverpool fans without provocation?
    Whilst I'm very sceptical given it was Liverpool, I wouldn't rule it out completely.
  • IshmaelZIshmaelZ Posts: 21,830

    'People love Boris Johnson. They want to see him, they want to touch him, they want to have their kids photographed with him. Keir Starmer hasn't got a tenth of his charisma.'

    Andrew Pierce discusses the Prime Minister's popularity.

    Are some people here on the same stuff as this guy?

    https://twitter.com/GBNEWS/status/1530943752029757443

    Confusing him with HMQ?
  • IshmaelZIshmaelZ Posts: 21,830
    edited May 2022
    LOL

    Now that Boris has called for his dog to be put down, his days really are numbered

    https://twitter.com/JohnJCrace/status/1530917553182281728

    LOL @ unintended consequences if Galadriel's been unable to take the revolting little thing to France, because Brexit.
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 42,835
    IshmaelZ said:

    'People love Boris Johnson. They want to see him, they want to touch him, they want to have their kids photographed with him. Keir Starmer hasn't got a tenth of his charisma.'

    Andrew Pierce discusses the Prime Minister's popularity.

    Are some people here on the same stuff as this guy?

    https://twitter.com/GBNEWS/status/1530943752029757443

    Confusing him with HMQ?
    A. Pierce whohe? *looks up on Wiki*

    'He has an active and controversial presence on Twitter. On 29th May 2022 he tweeted the following: '18 years after EU ordered govt to remove crown symbol from our pint glasses they're back for #PlatinumJubilee Cheers #Boris".' This is untrue, as documented by the BBC, who reported a spokesperson for the EU clarifying that "EU law does not prevent markings from being placed on products, so long as it does not overlap or be confused with the CE mark."[14]'
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 42,134
    On topic. Yep, betting into market overreaction is a good technique. Re the Johnson exit, though, I'm doing it in one direction only. The consistent value imo is in him NOT going so I have that as a core position and I top up each time there's a new scandal or a new angle to an old one.
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 42,835
    IshmaelZ said:

    LOL

    Now that Boris has called for his dog to be put down, his days really are numbered

    https://twitter.com/JohnJCrace/status/1530917553182281728

    LOL @ unintended consequences if Galadriel's been unable to take the revolting little thing to France, because Brexit.

    https://twitter.com/HarryYorke1/status/1530632313629024267
  • ApplicantApplicant Posts: 3,379
    tlg86 said:

    Applicant said:

    Fuck France, fuck UEFA, and fuck the gendarmerie, the latter must be the first French people spoiling for a fight.

    Pleasant weekend in the city of love?
    I was in Paris, not Rome.

    Absolute grim as hell, and I was one of the lucky ones.

    I collected my tickets from the sponsors/UEFA point area at the ground.

    At 5.30pm I was one of the early ones, and got told my ticket was fake, despite UEFA being the ones issuing.

    I mean they didn't even scan it, just decided it was fake.

    Fortunately I expressed my displeasure in French and also pointed out scanning it might help or did they want me to get some UEFA delegates over?

    So don't believe the UEFA bullshit that it was down to ticketless fans.

    Even the Mail and Telegraph journos ended up getting tear gassed said it was horrific.

    Sticking half a dozen police vans in the way also helped cause a bit of a bottleneck.
    So the police and stadium authorities targeted only Liverpool fans without provocation?
    Whilst I'm very sceptical given it was Liverpool, I wouldn't rule it out completely.
    And if it it true, the question has to be why? And how does it get stopped from happening again?
  • LeonLeon Posts: 55,277
    Carnyx said:

    IshmaelZ said:

    LOL

    Now that Boris has called for his dog to be put down, his days really are numbered

    https://twitter.com/JohnJCrace/status/1530917553182281728

    LOL @ unintended consequences if Galadriel's been unable to take the revolting little thing to France, because Brexit.

    https://twitter.com/HarryYorke1/status/1530632313629024267
    Totes with Boris here. I HATE yappy dogs. Shoot the fuckers. I will do it personally

    There’s one right near my Tbilisi hotel. It can yap for hours at a stretch, I’ve come close to marching down and hurling it in the Mrtsksvkrktka river
  • ApplicantApplicant Posts: 3,379

    Nottingham Forest win the Play-off final and promotion to the EPL.

    They have to play in the Egyptian Premier League?
  • MonkeysMonkeys Posts: 757

    'People love Boris Johnson. They want to see him, they want to touch him, they want to have their kids photographed with him. Keir Starmer hasn't got a tenth of his charisma.'

    Andrew Pierce discusses the Prime Minister's popularity.

    Are some people here on the same stuff as this guy?

    https://twitter.com/GBNEWS/status/1530943752029757443

    It's true that Starmer doesn't have his charisma but that doesn't mean Boris isn't a turnoff for a good proportion of the electorate. Starmer is there to make the Labour party boring again for a while so it's not even a bad quality to have.
  • IshmaelZIshmaelZ Posts: 21,830
    The whole Galadriel does a runner thing has yet to go mainstream. When it does I can see it doing him personal damage.
  • Monkeys said:

    'People love Boris Johnson. They want to see him, they want to touch him, they want to have their kids photographed with him. Keir Starmer hasn't got a tenth of his charisma.'

    Andrew Pierce discusses the Prime Minister's popularity.

    Are some people here on the same stuff as this guy?

    https://twitter.com/GBNEWS/status/1530943752029757443

    It's true that Starmer doesn't have his charisma but that doesn't mean Boris isn't a turnoff for a good proportion of the electorate. Starmer is there to make the Labour party boring again for a while so it's not even a bad quality to have.
    I am very confused why boring is a bad attribute. Anyone ever heard Wilson or Attlee speak?
  • Stark_DawningStark_Dawning Posts: 9,679

    'People love Boris Johnson. They want to see him, they want to touch him, they want to have their kids photographed with him. Keir Starmer hasn't got a tenth of his charisma.'

    Andrew Pierce discusses the Prime Minister's popularity.

    Are some people here on the same stuff as this guy?

    https://twitter.com/GBNEWS/status/1530943752029757443

    Never really got Andrew Pierce. I first encountered him penning these mind-numbingly limp diary pieces for The Times back in the early 2000s. He seems to have gone downhill ever since.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 50,253

    I've just seen Top Gun.

    An absolute blast, just fantastic.

    Did you guess, the moment they mentioned a certain aircraft was being used by the enemy, the ending?
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,631
    I should also add, I heard from multiple sources that when the police first started deploying tear gas they ended up tear gassing some other officers and things got much worse after that as there were a lot of angry officers about.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,631

    I've just seen Top Gun.

    An absolute blast, just fantastic.

    Did you guess, the moment they mentioned a certain aircraft was being used by the enemy, the ending?
    I've spent the last four days wondering who the enemy nation was?

    I know they did the same trick with the first film, which they confirmed was Libya in Maverick.
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 41,958
    edited May 2022

    'People love Boris Johnson. They want to see him, they want to touch him, they want to have their kids photographed with him. Keir Starmer hasn't got a tenth of his charisma.'

    Andrew Pierce discusses the Prime Minister's popularity.

    Are some people here on the same stuff as this guy?

    https://twitter.com/GBNEWS/status/1530943752029757443

    I just want to have his kids photographed with him, with whatever size wide angle lens it takes.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 51,821
    Applicant said:

    Nottingham Forest win the Play-off final and promotion to the EPL.

    They have to play in the Egyptian Premier League?
    "The Premier League, also known as the English Premier League"
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Premier_League
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,083

    I've just seen Top Gun.

    An absolute blast, just fantastic.

    Much better than the original.
  • IshmaelZIshmaelZ Posts: 21,830
    edited May 2022

    'People love Boris Johnson. They want to see him, they want to touch him, they want to have their kids photographed with him. Keir Starmer hasn't got a tenth of his charisma.'

    Andrew Pierce discusses the Prime Minister's popularity.

    Are some people here on the same stuff as this guy?

    https://twitter.com/GBNEWS/status/1530943752029757443

    I just want to have his kids photographed with, with whatever size wide angle lens it takes.
    First seven words of that say it all, for me.
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 42,835
    Leon said:

    Carnyx said:

    IshmaelZ said:

    LOL

    Now that Boris has called for his dog to be put down, his days really are numbered

    https://twitter.com/JohnJCrace/status/1530917553182281728

    LOL @ unintended consequences if Galadriel's been unable to take the revolting little thing to France, because Brexit.

    https://twitter.com/HarryYorke1/status/1530632313629024267
    Totes with Boris here. I HATE yappy dogs. Shoot the fuckers. I will do it personally

    There’s one right near my Tbilisi hotel. It can yap for hours at a stretch, I’ve come close to marching down and hurling it in the Mrtsksvkrktka river
    Given how much political capital Mr Johnson has made of the pooch, that's not a very helpful remark for him to make, objectively.
  • IshmaelZIshmaelZ Posts: 21,830

    I've just seen Top Gun.

    An absolute blast, just fantastic.

    Did you guess, the moment they mentioned a certain aircraft was being used by the enemy, the ending?
    I've spent the last four days wondering who the enemy nation was?

    I know they did the same trick with the first film, which they confirmed was Libya in Maverick.
    I think I have recently said this, but it bears repeating: Apocalypse Now was filmed in the Philippines with Philippine military kit, and the attack helicopters were doing mornings filming the Charley don't surf scene, and then knocking off at lunchtime to fly genuine ground attack in a little local war Marcos was having at the time. You'd want the armourers to be quite good at their jobs.
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 41,958
    This writing style seems familiar..

    Dan Coleman
    trdSytc4a:PMac l420 Ma ta12 52 ·
    Righto this baby shit coloured pile of arse holes is ready for its loving new owner.
    I’ve removed the stickers that made the previous owners look like dog interferers so it’s worth at least 5 grand more.
    Anywho to save your time and mine, I figured I’d just do an faq
    Is this item still available ? :🖕
    I am interested in this item : 🖕
    Would you recommend anything needs replacing on it ? : Everything, routinely, every 50 miles otherwise it will fall apart and set itself on fire
    What’s your lowest ? : Athough a personal and unrelated question It gets asked a lot so… probably w@nking off a homeless man in the disabled toilets of a subway in st Helen’s in exchange for some spice
    Does it come with warranty ? : It’s a notoriously unreliable bag of shit from the 70s of course it doesn’t. In fact if you buy it and it gets you further than 50 miles then I’ll give you £100 back
    Is there any rust ? : Refer to vehicle make and model
    Has it had any recent work ? : Yes, I put a new fuel pump push rod in it because I chopped the original one in half so I could get free recovery home rather than drive it
    Is it water tight ? : Probably not
    This is our first Volkswagen, is there anything you would recommend ? : Buy a transit custom for less money
    How many does it sleep ? : 4 uncomfortably
    What are the gears like ? : Shaking a black mamba in the depths of a single mother of 7 from Salford
    Does it leak oil ? : Refer to vehicle make and model
    Is it good on fuel ? : Yes, well it runs better on fuel than on water
    I saw this up for less money last week ? : Your mum was up for less money last week
    Good points : Its mot exempt and has a fire extinguisher on board
    That about covers the most of it. So if it sounds like the van of your dreams then give me a call and start the first day of the rest of your life
    £15k


  • malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 43,319

    'People love Boris Johnson. They want to see him, they want to touch him, they want to have their kids photographed with him. Keir Starmer hasn't got a tenth of his charisma.'

    Andrew Pierce discusses the Prime Minister's popularity.

    Are some people here on the same stuff as this guy?

    https://twitter.com/GBNEWS/status/1530943752029757443

    he is a Tory cult nutter
  • MattWMattW Posts: 23,149
    edited May 2022
    RobD said:

    Fuck France, fuck UEFA, and fuck the gendarmerie, the latter must be the first French people spoiling for a fight.

    Pleasant weekend in the city of love?
    I was in Paris, not Rome.

    Absolute grim as hell, and I was one of the lucky ones.

    I collected my tickets from the sponsors/UEFA point area at the ground.

    At 5.30pm I was one of the early ones, and got told my ticket was fake, despite UEFA being the ones issuing.

    I mean they didn't even scan it, just decided it was fake.

    Fortunately I expressed my displeasure in French and also pointed out scanning it might help or did they want me to get some UEFA delegates over?

    So don't believe the UEFA bullshit that it was down to ticketless fans.

    Even the Mail and Telegraph journos ended up getting tear gassed said it was horrific.

    Sticking half a dozen police vans in the way also helped cause a bit of a bottleneck.
    I think they've been reading your posts on here. ;)
    Sorry about all of that.

    Hope the same does not happen in Derbyshire Sheffield.
  • Northern_AlNorthern_Al Posts: 8,377
    edited May 2022
    On topic, I suspect that enough Tory MPs want Boris gone with one proviso: that they could reach a reasonable consensus on who should replace him. But they can't reach that consensus, or anywhere near it - especially after Sunak's fall from grace. So not enough letters have gone in to Mr. Brady, so he hasn't gone. And won't.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,385
    Nigelb said:

    'People love Boris Johnson. They want to see him, they want to touch him, they want to have their kids photographed with him. Keir Starmer hasn't got a tenth of his charisma.'

    Andrew Pierce discusses the Prime Minister's popularity.

    Are some people here on the same stuff as this guy?

    https://twitter.com/GBNEWS/status/1530943752029757443

    Weirdest fetish yet reported on PB.
    When it comes to Johnson, the trouble is his propensity for touching others, especially attractive young women.
  • Nigelb said:

    'People love Boris Johnson. They want to see him, they want to touch him, they want to have their kids photographed with him. Keir Starmer hasn't got a tenth of his charisma.'

    Andrew Pierce discusses the Prime Minister's popularity.

    Are some people here on the same stuff as this guy?

    https://twitter.com/GBNEWS/status/1530943752029757443

    Weirdest fetish yet reported on PB.
    I want to touch you bbz
  • IshmaelZIshmaelZ Posts: 21,830

    On topic, I suspect that enough Tory MPs want Boris gone with one proviso: that they could reach a reasonable consensus on who should replace him. But they can't reach that consensus, or anywhere near it - especially after Sunak's fall from grace. So he hasn't gone, and not enough letters have gone in. And won't.

    I don't think they are after consensus, you don't expect elections to go by consensus and when they do it's usually because things are so fucked nobody really wants the job anyway (Howard, May). What may be holding them back is the astonishing-but-true fact that there is a very much greater than zero chance of ending up with someone worse than Johnson. Vote Johnson out, get Truss.
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 27,894
    edited May 2022

    Monkeys said:

    'People love Boris Johnson. They want to see him, they want to touch him, they want to have their kids photographed with him. Keir Starmer hasn't got a tenth of his charisma.'

    Andrew Pierce discusses the Prime Minister's popularity.

    Are some people here on the same stuff as this guy?

    https://twitter.com/GBNEWS/status/1530943752029757443

    It's true that Starmer doesn't have his charisma but that doesn't mean Boris isn't a turnoff for a good proportion of the electorate. Starmer is there to make the Labour party boring again for a while so it's not even a bad quality to have.
    I am very confused why boring is a bad attribute. Anyone ever heard Wilson or Attlee speak?
    Wilson was quite a witty speaker in his day, was he not? Are you sure it is not his accent putting you off?

    I've just found this on Youtube: a half-hour interview with Wilson before the first 1974 election. Can you imagine Boris doing this? Will there be a windfall tax? One odd thing to our ears is the talk of housewives in regard to food prices. Also a discussion of wage increases in time of inflation.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JaasnLeYdIE
  • Northern_AlNorthern_Al Posts: 8,377
    This thread has given me an idea for extorting money from my kids. I'll tell them that if they don't cough up, I'm going to get them photographed with BJ and have it circulated.
    They'd pay up.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,631

    This thread has given me an idea for extorting money from my kids. I'll tell them that if they don't cough up, I'm going to get them photographed with BJ and have it circulated.
    They'd pay up.

    One of the worst things about lockdowns was prior to lockdowns when my kids annoyed me I used to threatened to hug and kiss them in front of their mates.

    I lost the ability to deploy that threat for nearly two years.
  • MattWMattW Posts: 23,149
    edited May 2022

    MattW said:

    Fifth, and cut off by the thread.

    MattW said:

    OT

    I don't think this has been mentioned yet on PB but I have to say I am rather disturbed by the fact that the BBC have reversed the hiring of a stand in radio presenter simply on the grounds he is left wing and anti-Boris Johnson.

    Are we to see a situation where, every time there is a change of Government, the whole of the BBC presenting establishment has to be fired and rehired based on their political persuasion? Or do we want our presenters only to be drawn from the ranks of those who are so disengaged from life that they hold no political views at all?

    I suspect I disagree with pretty much everyone of Mr Stadlen's political positions - though to be fair I have never actually heard of him before now - but unless he abuses his position as a presenter then he should not be barred from a job simply because he is critical of the Government.

    Not sure. If this is correct (published by Guido, but it was wrong the BBC would have pushed back) he was continuing being nakedly partisan up until mere days ago. Is that tenable for a BBC presenter on a rolling News (Radio 5) channel? I'd say they may have violated their own standard.

    More like a recruiting process off the rails, perhaps? Or a horribly poor sense of judgement on Standen's part.

    One could understand if it was 5 years ago, but whilst he has been after the job?



    He is not yet employed by the BBC and has broken none of their rules or guidelines. He has every right to express his political position and personally I would think less of him if he stopped his activities just to get a job. Unless he had had a Damascene conversion then it would still be known that he was vehemently anti-Tory. But then so are probably close to half the population. If that were the standard to go by then just about the only person on PB who would reach the bar to work for the BBC would be HYUFD.

    This is a fundamentally wrong and dangerous road to travel down.

    I agree this course of events is undesirable, but I think you are relying too much on dot and tittle and the 'letter of the law' there. He has put a honking great public question mark over his ability to follow the published guidelines for contractors / freelancers, never mind employees:

    2. Rules and expectations of social media use for all colleagues (employees, contractors and freelancers)
    The following rules and expectations apply to all those working for the BBC, for professional (@BBC) and personal social media accounts.

    1. Always behave professionally, treating others with respect and courtesy at all times: follow the BBC’s Values.

    2. Don’t bring the BBC into disrepute.

    3. If your work requires you to maintain your impartiality, don’t express a personal opinion on matters of public policy, politics, or ‘controversial subjects’.**

    4. Don’t criticise your colleagues in public. Respect the privacy of the workplace and the confidentiality of internal announcements.

    ** Ofcom’s Broadcasting Code defines political or industrial controversy as political or industrial issues on which politicians, industry and/or the media are in debate.

    https://www.bbc.com/editorialguidelines/guidance/individual-use-of-social-media

    2 perhaps covers it already, arguably.

    I think the BBC need to explain their reverse-ferret, and why they did not pick it up before. Poor judgement imo.

    I'd be interested to see something similar before. At the moment the Twatterati are arguing things like "But Laura Kuenssberg was a Tory at University" to underpin their alleged outrage.
  • MattWMattW Posts: 23,149
    edited May 2022
    ..
  • Northern_AlNorthern_Al Posts: 8,377

    This thread has given me an idea for extorting money from my kids. I'll tell them that if they don't cough up, I'm going to get them photographed with BJ and have it circulated.
    They'd pay up.

    One of the worst things about lockdowns was prior to lockdowns when my kids annoyed me I used to threatened to hug and kiss them in front of their mates.

    I lost the ability to deploy that threat for nearly two years.
    You could have hacked into their Zoom meetings with their mates: "Daddy's here. Love you!".
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,385

    This thread has given me an idea for extorting money from my kids. I'll tell them that if they don't cough up, I'm going to get them photographed with BJ and have it circulated.
    They'd pay up.

    They'd also report you to Social Services, have you arrested and themselves put into care, I should think. I mean - putting them next to Johnson?!!!
  • HeathenerHeathener Posts: 7,084
    @TheScreamingEagles welcome back and sorry for the result.

    What is your appraisal of what happened yesterday outside the stadium? Would be interested to hear an eyewitness.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,153
    Leon said:

    Carnyx said:

    IshmaelZ said:

    LOL

    Now that Boris has called for his dog to be put down, his days really are numbered

    https://twitter.com/JohnJCrace/status/1530917553182281728

    LOL @ unintended consequences if Galadriel's been unable to take the revolting little thing to France, because Brexit.

    https://twitter.com/HarryYorke1/status/1530632313629024267
    Totes with Boris here. I HATE yappy dogs. Shoot the fuckers. I will do it personally

    There’s one right near my Tbilisi hotel. It can yap for hours at a stretch, I’ve come close to marching down and hurling it in the Mrtsksvkrktka river
    We have a little yappy dog, a Chihuahua. And honestly, I wish we'd got her years ago.

    Because if we had she would probably be dead by now.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 55,277

    This writing style seems familiar..

    Dan Coleman
    trdSytc4a:PMac l420 Ma ta12 52 ·
    Righto this baby shit coloured pile of arse holes is ready for its loving new owner.
    I’ve removed the stickers that made the previous owners look like dog interferers so it’s worth at least 5 grand more.
    Anywho to save your time and mine, I figured I’d just do an faq
    Is this item still available ? :🖕
    I am interested in this item : 🖕
    Would you recommend anything needs replacing on it ? : Everything, routinely, every 50 miles otherwise it will fall apart and set itself on fire
    What’s your lowest ? : Athough a personal and unrelated question It gets asked a lot so… probably w@nking off a homeless man in the disabled toilets of a subway in st Helen’s in exchange for some spice
    Does it come with warranty ? : It’s a notoriously unreliable bag of shit from the 70s of course it doesn’t. In fact if you buy it and it gets you further than 50 miles then I’ll give you £100 back
    Is there any rust ? : Refer to vehicle make and model
    Has it had any recent work ? : Yes, I put a new fuel pump push rod in it because I chopped the original one in half so I could get free recovery home rather than drive it
    Is it water tight ? : Probably not
    This is our first Volkswagen, is there anything you would recommend ? : Buy a transit custom for less money
    How many does it sleep ? : 4 uncomfortably
    What are the gears like ? : Shaking a black mamba in the depths of a single mother of 7 from Salford
    Does it leak oil ? : Refer to vehicle make and model
    Is it good on fuel ? : Yes, well it runs better on fuel than on water
    I saw this up for less money last week ? : Your mum was up for less money last week
    Good points : Its mot exempt and has a fire extinguisher on board
    That about covers the most of it. So if it sounds like the van of your dreams then give me a call and start the first day of the rest of your life
    £15k


    Lol! It has to be our dear and mutual friend
  • IshmaelZIshmaelZ Posts: 21,830
    rcs1000 said:

    Leon said:

    Carnyx said:

    IshmaelZ said:

    LOL

    Now that Boris has called for his dog to be put down, his days really are numbered

    https://twitter.com/JohnJCrace/status/1530917553182281728

    LOL @ unintended consequences if Galadriel's been unable to take the revolting little thing to France, because Brexit.

    https://twitter.com/HarryYorke1/status/1530632313629024267
    Totes with Boris here. I HATE yappy dogs. Shoot the fuckers. I will do it personally

    There’s one right near my Tbilisi hotel. It can yap for hours at a stretch, I’ve come close to marching down and hurling it in the Mrtsksvkrktka river
    We have a little yappy dog, a Chihuahua. And honestly, I wish we'd got her years ago.

    Because if we had she would probably be dead by now.
    :lol:

    I'll tell you what, it softens the whole divorce thing when the wife gets exclusive custody of the dogs.
  • IshmaelZIshmaelZ Posts: 21,830
    Heathener said:

    @TheScreamingEagles welcome back and sorry for the result.

    What is your appraisal of what happened yesterday outside the stadium? Would be interested to hear an eyewitness.

    He was in the ground not outside.

    don't want to put words into his mouth, but I'm guessing he is drafting a reply on the lines of: I now realise that for a successful middle class professional like myself, purporting to be a football "fan" is merely a form of first world poverty tourism. I have learned my lesson and in future will follow the rugger and cricket.
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 42,580
    kle4 said:

    I've just seen Top Gun.

    An absolute blast, just fantastic.

    Much better than the original.
    I saw it today. It was an unnecessary film. The original did what it did; told a story well and played perfectly to its audience. A sequel was unnecessary.

    But... I loved it. The plot was a bit Team America: "America, F*ck Yeah!" and Cruise's acting was as poor as ever. However the filmography was excellent, and even though the aerial scenes were probably unrealistic (IANAE...), they were action-packed. I loved the way they got Val Kilmer into the film despite his health problems, and the personal plots also melded well with the original.

    Overall, it played a great homage to the original. As a standalone film it'd be a mess, but as a sequel it was excellent and, most importantly and unlike many sequels, it did not spoil the original.
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 42,580

    I've just seen Top Gun.

    An absolute blast, just fantastic.

    Did you guess, the moment they mentioned a certain aircraft was being used by the enemy, the ending?
    I'd just say: the plane at the beginning (a ?twenty minute? segment that was totally unnecessary) was ridiculous. I won't place any spoilers, but a plane with its capabilities is pointless: far too expensive to make and operate when ballistic missiles can do the job better. IMO. :)
  • LeonLeon Posts: 55,277
    IshmaelZ said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Leon said:

    Carnyx said:

    IshmaelZ said:

    LOL

    Now that Boris has called for his dog to be put down, his days really are numbered

    https://twitter.com/JohnJCrace/status/1530917553182281728

    LOL @ unintended consequences if Galadriel's been unable to take the revolting little thing to France, because Brexit.

    https://twitter.com/HarryYorke1/status/1530632313629024267
    Totes with Boris here. I HATE yappy dogs. Shoot the fuckers. I will do it personally

    There’s one right near my Tbilisi hotel. It can yap for hours at a stretch, I’ve come close to marching down and hurling it in the Mrtsksvkrktka river
    We have a little yappy dog, a Chihuahua. And honestly, I wish we'd got her years ago.

    Because if we had she would probably be dead by now.
    :lol:

    I'll tell you what, it softens the whole divorce thing when the wife gets exclusive custody of the dogs.
    I have absolutely ZERO sentimental attachment to animals, It shocks everyone I know - even close friends - when I admit it,

    I hate cruelty to animals in general. Factory farming upsets me, etc

    But individual animals? Fuck em. If they annoy me, chuck them off a cliff. This includes family pets
  • HeathenerHeathener Posts: 7,084
    IshmaelZ said:

    Heathener said:

    @TheScreamingEagles welcome back and sorry for the result.

    What is your appraisal of what happened yesterday outside the stadium? Would be interested to hear an eyewitness.

    I don't want to put words into his mouth, but I'm guessing he ...
    You're right. I asked @TheScreamingEagles not someone who wasn't there. But I'm interested that you think he teleported into the ground.
  • NickPalmerNickPalmer Posts: 21,523

    Monkeys said:

    'People love Boris Johnson. They want to see him, they want to touch him, they want to have their kids photographed with him. Keir Starmer hasn't got a tenth of his charisma.'

    Andrew Pierce discusses the Prime Minister's popularity.

    Are some people here on the same stuff as this guy?

    https://twitter.com/GBNEWS/status/1530943752029757443

    It's true that Starmer doesn't have his charisma but that doesn't mean Boris isn't a turnoff for a good proportion of the electorate. Starmer is there to make the Labour party boring again for a while so it's not even a bad quality to have.
    I am very confused why boring is a bad attribute. Anyone ever heard Wilson or Attlee speak?
    Wilson was quite a witty speaker in his day, was he not? Are you sure it is not his accent putting you off?

    I've just found this on Youtube: a half-hour interview with Wilson before the first 1974 election. Can you imagine Boris doing this? Will there be a windfall tax? One odd thing to our ears is the talk of housewives in regard to food prices. Also a discussion of wage increases in time of inflation.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JaasnLeYdIE
    Interesting - he sounds quite Corbynite to modern ears. Price controls! Rent controls! Very assured speaker, though.
  • MonkeysMonkeys Posts: 757

    Monkeys said:

    'People love Boris Johnson. They want to see him, they want to touch him, they want to have their kids photographed with him. Keir Starmer hasn't got a tenth of his charisma.'

    Andrew Pierce discusses the Prime Minister's popularity.

    Are some people here on the same stuff as this guy?

    https://twitter.com/GBNEWS/status/1530943752029757443

    It's true that Starmer doesn't have his charisma but that doesn't mean Boris isn't a turnoff for a good proportion of the electorate. Starmer is there to make the Labour party boring again for a while so it's not even a bad quality to have.
    I am very confused why boring is a bad attribute. Anyone ever heard Wilson or Attlee speak?
    yes one day after boris and putin and trump and covid everyone will want a sit down and a cup of tea.
  • sladeslade Posts: 2,040

    Nottingham Forest into the Premier league

    They probably deserved to win but as a Town supporter I felt we should have had 2 penalties - and that seems to be the opinion on the websites.
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 26,175
    slade said:

    Nottingham Forest into the Premier league

    They probably deserved to win but as a Town supporter I felt we should have had 2 penalties - and that seems to be the opinion on the websites.
    Certainly the one the guy got booked for diving was a penalty.
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 17,405
    Heathener said:

    IshmaelZ said:

    Heathener said:

    @TheScreamingEagles welcome back and sorry for the result.

    What is your appraisal of what happened yesterday outside the stadium? Would be interested to hear an eyewitness.

    I don't want to put words into his mouth, but I'm guessing he ...
    You're right. I asked @TheScreamingEagles not someone who wasn't there. But I'm interested that you think he teleported into the ground.
    Surely parachuted in?
  • Chuffed to see Forest back in the top division.

    Be good to face some competition from a club that could win in Europe as many times as Chelsea, Arsenal, Spurs and City combined.
  • OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 33,431

    This thread has given me an idea for extorting money from my kids. I'll tell them that if they don't cough up, I'm going to get them photographed with BJ and have it circulated.
    They'd pay up.

    If I still had children I’d write to their schools warning the head that they allowed Johnson anywhere near my children I’d sue
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 62,715
    malcolmg said:

    'People love Boris Johnson. They want to see him, they want to touch him, they want to have their kids photographed with him. Keir Starmer hasn't got a tenth of his charisma.'

    Andrew Pierce discusses the Prime Minister's popularity.

    Are some people here on the same stuff as this guy?

    https://twitter.com/GBNEWS/status/1530943752029757443

    he is a Tory cult nutter
    As David Frum says about Trump, when this is finally all over, no one will admit they had anything to do with him, or gave him the time of day.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 62,715
    Quite incredible frankly....



    Harry Cole
    @MrHarryCole
    ·
    5h
    Astonishing with all that's going on, that the Labour Party is is having public war of words over whether a woman can be born with a penis.
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 26,175

    Chuffed to see Forest back in the top division.

    Be good to face some competition from a club that could win in Europe as many times as Chelsea, Arsenal, Spurs and City combined.

    We'd have won the 1989-90 European Cup.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 62,715
    tlg86 said:

    Chuffed to see Forest back in the top division.

    Be good to face some competition from a club that could win in Europe as many times as Chelsea, Arsenal, Spurs and City combined.

    We'd have won the 1989-90 European Cup.
    Nottingham Evening Post planning a 48 page special edition for tomorrow apparently!!!
  • JonathanJonathan Posts: 21,661
    ydoethur said:

    Quite incredible frankly....



    Harry Cole
    @MrHarryCole
    ·
    5h
    Astonishing with all that's going on, that the Labour Party is is having public war of words over whether a woman can be born with a penis.

    An avoidable cock up.
    That’s a phallusy.
  • Stella Creasy is a genius. She’s managed to get free publicity for Labour’s new position of women can’t have penises
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 62,715

    Monkeys said:

    'People love Boris Johnson. They want to see him, they want to touch him, they want to have their kids photographed with him. Keir Starmer hasn't got a tenth of his charisma.'

    Andrew Pierce discusses the Prime Minister's popularity.

    Are some people here on the same stuff as this guy?

    https://twitter.com/GBNEWS/status/1530943752029757443

    It's true that Starmer doesn't have his charisma but that doesn't mean Boris isn't a turnoff for a good proportion of the electorate. Starmer is there to make the Labour party boring again for a while so it's not even a bad quality to have.
    I am very confused why boring is a bad attribute. Anyone ever heard Wilson or Attlee speak?
    Wilson was quite a witty speaker in his day, was he not? Are you sure it is not his accent putting you off?

    I've just found this on Youtube: a half-hour interview with Wilson before the first 1974 election. Can you imagine Boris doing this? Will there be a windfall tax? One odd thing to our ears is the talk of housewives in regard to food prices. Also a discussion of wage increases in time of inflation.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JaasnLeYdIE
    Interesting - he sounds quite Corbynite to modern ears. Price controls! Rent controls! Very assured speaker, though.
    Isn't the failure of price controls in 1970s one of the lessons that Corbyn didn't learn? I ask as a genuine economic question rather than just having a go.
  • Quite incredible frankly....



    Harry Cole
    @MrHarryCole
    ·
    5h
    Astonishing with all that's going on, that the Labour Party is is having public war of words over whether a woman can be born with a penis.

    That's just so they can finally choose a "female" leader next time.
This discussion has been closed.